They weren't legendary in 1981...it was the beginning of them becoming legendary. Oh, and they play 2-to-3-hour concerts as well. I have seen them twice and both times they were brilliant! Also, they are in the Rock and Roll HOF!!!
They were already legendary in Belgium. Werchter Festival was their 18th gig in Belgium in 2 years (since 1979), incl. several with a 2000-3000 capacity. 🙂
@@haydenwittig8877 indeed , i think The Cure are the best live band ever! I'd kill for seeing them live at their prime , but they're doing fantastic lately too, their 2019 shows were amazing, it's available on TH-cam
brilliant. the cure are the greatest. i think you two would love The Kiss. that track is bananas. spiralling guitars and so much mood. doom vibes for lovers.
The Cure were relatively little known at this time in 1981. They were about to explode, get a darker look, and become the moody voice for a generation of introspective outsiders.
Early on, The Cure was struggling to find their own space and you can hear the influences in this piece - there is definitely punk influence; there's a bit of Joy Division in the sound and that bass could easily by played by Peter Cook. One the other hand The Cure was, even back then, "painting atmosphere" with their music. You can call it goth, you can call it whatever... It is still glorious!
The Cure were unique not influenced by Joy Division at all. Two ground breaking bands that as a 18 year old I rocked to. 77, 78, 79, 80 were glory years. Went to ratshit after. These were easily the best years, band after band came to the fore, Magazine, Cure, The Fall, Undertones, Stranglers, Buzzcocks, X Ray Specs, Rezillos, Simple Minds, Joy Division, Human League, Pistols, Crass. All Brit bands.
@@nickchristian8195 it's common knowledge that Robert Smith was originally leaning into The Buzzcocks and early Elvis Costello.. much later when he composed The Walk, it leant heavily into New Order's Blue Monday, a fact not lost on Robert as he's always liked Hook's bass lines ( they're friends too) and as for Joy Division, Robert has even played the riff for She's Lost Control midway through an instrumental section of A Forest paying homage to Ian and the band. They were often in the same billing at their early gigs so I personally wouldn't say they weren't at all influenced. One can be influenced and inspired and still compose unique music.
@@jamesnolan4412 I mean, they were contemporaries influenced by similar bands and with a mutual admiration, experimenting with sounds around the same time, a time when a lot of post punk bands had fairly similar tones. Severin played basslines higher on the neck as well, it wasn't only Hooky ho did so. And as for the OP saying the bassline could have been played by Hooky, he wouldn't have played a root only bassline much after this time period. The bassline on this song is simple roots. The guitar part is actually more in line with something Hooky would play, but on guitar. And it isn't like he has some sort of exclusivity on playing the way that he does. As for influence, Robert just liked their more minimalistic style, vs what Dempsey was doing on bass. Siouxsie was dark, too, so he got as much influence from, or more, his time with the Banshees than he did from the few times Joy Division opened for them.
this was a performance at ROCK WERCHTER in BELGIUM! I have been going to that festival since the '80 s as its close to my home in Belgium, all grate bands performed over the years there, from the cure to Brian Adams, to U2 and Metallica! Sweet child hood memories! Thx for you reaction on this one!
You're talking about the bass player Simon Gallup and his energy. Well he's still with the band and I think his energy level is greater now at over 60 than back then.
Saw them at the Garden a few nights ago! Robert still sounds amazing and they are still known for exceptionally long shows. They blew MSG’s curfew by far even though they fine bands for doing so!
My girlfriend's favorite band in college. She said that his voice turned her on. We went to a show and it was madness. She wanted up front and it was crazy and we had to clear out. Not mosh pitting but bodies smashed on to each other in a rush as soon as the band hit. This was around 1993. I just started getting into them too. First "new" music for me, I'm a sixties/seventies fanatic (best period of music imo ;) Funny story about drawing out the song bc i've always know them to do that with this song live anyway. Maybe this is the origin. It's a quick 3-4 min song on the album but would stretch to 20 min later. Very cool :) Thanks again!
So another bit of history to this. At 9.20 in your video the song normally ends. They impromptu the remainder of the song from the original lyrics that morphed into the recorded version. This version has not been played again so far as I know.
If you like this song, you should definitely check out one hundred years. It’s my favourite song by them. And it’s a bit darker and a bit heavier than this one
1. On bass, the brilliant and aptly-named Simon Gallup - like Peter Hook and Paul McCartney rolled into one 2. Robert is inconsistent as to whether this song is a metaphor for some turbulence in his long, not always happy, relationship with Mary Poole, or just a reminiscence of his childhood fear of becoming lost in some local woodland 3. This song originally was in the 6-7 minute range, but (as you might already know) this version of the song presaged a later trend. The Cure always did like to improvise, and this is one of their big jamming numbers. From the last leg of the 1984 tour, right through to the midpoint of the 1996 tour, they would ALWAYS play extended versions with adlibbed vocal parts and multiple guitar solos. In the early '90s A Forest averaged at 12-14 mins, but the longest one I know is of is a 17-minuter on an infamous 1998 night when Robert had taken LSD and was also knocking back the chateau-my-god..with predictable results.
In 1986 I was 12 and in the 7th grade and I remember one day all of the “preppy” girls crying and I heard a couple say they were gonna kill themself. I asked what is going on and finally someone said,” there’s a rumor going around Robert Smith is dead.” I live in Maryland and they were huge. I remember we used to skateboard fly ramps and we’d always have a boombox with us and it either would be playing Depeche Mode’s Speak and Spell album, The Cure, The Cult, Black Flag, the Sex Pistols, or The Violent Femmes first record. Those days seemed to last forever! We were young and we knew it, we were “cool” and we knew it. The 80’s were a great time for adolescence and then by 1990 I was 17 and Grunge was coming in and we were partying (just drinking and smoking) and those couple years were a blast as well till about 1995 and it was all over.
Saw them live in 1982 and twice since. They headlined Glastonbury as recently as 2019. No way they would be asked to make way for Plant now, or anyone else for that matter. Looking forward to seeing them again in Dec!!
the cure - legends. anyway, you guys should check out anna von hausswolff. princess of doom, most powerful voice and a genre on her own. you want something soft and heavenly? go for "they hoped for a name". you want some acustic live performance? "stranger". you want to march with her and discover her pure and raw vocal power? "the myserious vanishing of electra"-music video.
Quite brilliant how they chose to make the song longer by drawing it out and adding unnecessary guitar solos etc. It feels like that specifically target Palmer. I mean 70's rock guys like him had solos that lasted half a day, punk and early goth typically had songs that kicked you in the groin and were gone again in less then 3 minutes. Love how they did it though.
There may be better performances of this song but this is my favorite..can't beat the F you attitude after having been told to cut their set short so they could bring Robert palmer out...I love when he gets to the lines..such a long end,lol
Robert Palmer was pretty big for about 5 minutes. Must have been that 5 mins because The Cure have been up for longer and have more cred (but no dancing girls)
The Wolf Hunterz are listening to too many LIVE versions of songs. It would be better to listen to the STUDIO VERSION. The studio version is a better pace ( slower ) and has much better atmospherics. The studio version is very eerie and has a lot more feel to it. THE STUDIO VERSION IS SUPERIOR TO THIS LIVE VERSION. THE STUDIO VERSION is in my Top 50 songs of all time. I'm happy the Wolf Hunterz liked it. How could you not like Robert Smith? I remember going to the Record Store in 1979 to buy BOYS DON'T CRY. A Forest was on their 2nd album -Seventeen Seconds released on 22 April 1980.
It was 1981 and Robert Palmer was not really a bigger act at all, Standing on a Beach is possibly there best album and they are still touring to this day
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They weren't legendary in 1981...it was the beginning of them becoming legendary. Oh, and they play 2-to-3-hour concerts as well. I have seen them twice and both times they were brilliant! Also, they are in the Rock and Roll HOF!!!
I prefer this version of them M Seventeen Seconds A Forest etc
They were already legendary in Belgium. Werchter Festival was their 18th gig in Belgium in 2 years (since 1979), incl. several with a 2000-3000 capacity. 🙂
One of their best! Great listening while driving.
Jeanine watch the 1986 concert in 4K THE CURE LIVE IN ORANGE full concert at the old Roman Theatre in Orange France Amazing.
One of the best Goth songs in history.
The Cure, Depeche Mode, Simple Mind, Tear for fear, OMD........I was so young
Joy division, Bauhaus, New order, The smith, Duran-duran...
@@ooO0VicariouS0Ooo ... and Kajagoogoo 🤣🤣🤣
@@butnooneshome 😅 well..."too shy "was not a bad song, I must admit I bought the single
@@ooO0VicariouS0Ooo I myself am the proud (?) owner of “The Lions Mouth” by the aforementioned … 😆
Teenagers eh
And nowherdays I still party on those bands
Crowd was chanting "we want more, we want more" , at the end , that's awesome
Dave the live in Orange concert in 1986 was EPIC.
@@haydenwittig8877 indeed , i think The Cure are the best live band ever! I'd kill for seeing them live at their prime , but they're doing fantastic lately too, their 2019 shows were amazing, it's available on TH-cam
The best lineup Smith, Gallup. Thompson. Williams and Tolhurst.
What memories brings me 1981 I was 22 years old, how life happens
I used to play this song in a cover band back in the day and I always enjoyed it!
A Forest 1992 is the best version of the song. The Cure are rock Gods
Pure perfection = The Cure live.
brilliant. the cure are the greatest. i think you two would love The Kiss. that track is bananas. spiralling guitars and so much mood. doom vibes for lovers.
The Cure were relatively little known at this time in 1981. They were about to explode, get a darker look, and become the moody voice for a generation of introspective outsiders.
Thanks
Little known ? It was their 18th gig in Belgium in 2 years 🙂
Early on, The Cure was struggling to find their own space and you can hear the influences in this piece - there is definitely punk influence; there's a bit of Joy Division in the sound and that bass could easily by played by Peter Cook. One the other hand The Cure was, even back then, "painting atmosphere" with their music. You can call it goth, you can call it whatever... It is still glorious!
@Benjamin Siu Dudley Moore could've played that bassline too as he was an accomplished pianist 🙂
@@crose7412 Nice one!
The Cure were unique not influenced by Joy Division at all. Two ground breaking bands that as a 18 year old I rocked to. 77, 78, 79, 80 were glory years. Went to ratshit after. These were easily the best years, band after band came to the fore, Magazine, Cure, The Fall, Undertones, Stranglers, Buzzcocks, X Ray Specs, Rezillos, Simple Minds, Joy Division, Human League, Pistols, Crass. All Brit bands.
@@nickchristian8195 it's common knowledge that Robert Smith was originally leaning into The Buzzcocks and early Elvis Costello.. much later when he composed The Walk, it leant heavily into New Order's Blue Monday, a fact not lost on Robert as he's always liked Hook's bass lines ( they're friends too) and as for Joy Division, Robert has even played the riff for She's Lost Control midway through an instrumental section of A Forest paying homage to Ian and the band. They were often in the same billing at their early gigs so I personally wouldn't say they weren't at all influenced. One can be influenced and inspired and still compose unique music.
@@jamesnolan4412 I mean, they were contemporaries influenced by similar bands and with a mutual admiration, experimenting with sounds around the same time, a time when a lot of post punk bands had fairly similar tones. Severin played basslines higher on the neck as well, it wasn't only Hooky ho did so. And as for the OP saying the bassline could have been played by Hooky, he wouldn't have played a root only bassline much after this time period. The bassline on this song is simple roots. The guitar part is actually more in line with something Hooky would play, but on guitar. And it isn't like he has some sort of exclusivity on playing the way that he does. As for influence, Robert just liked their more minimalistic style, vs what Dempsey was doing on bass. Siouxsie was dark, too, so he got as much influence from, or more, his time with the Banshees than he did from the few times Joy Division opened for them.
this was a performance at ROCK WERCHTER in BELGIUM! I have been going to that festival since the '80 s as its close to my home in Belgium, all grate bands performed over the years there, from the cure to Brian Adams, to U2 and Metallica! Sweet child hood memories! Thx for you reaction on this one!
Great
lucky basterd! :D
I’m seeing the Cure live in London in December I’m so excited it’s going to be amazing
The way he kept saying it’s such a long end mocking the organisers who told them to be quick 😂😂 seriously though one of the greatest band ever
You're talking about the bass player Simon Gallup and his energy. Well he's still with the band and I think his energy level is greater now at over 60 than back then.
The Cure Faith LP blew my mind.
At the end, Simon, the bass player, shouts "Fuck Robert Palmer, fuck rock n roll" into the microphone. Very punk message.
my favorite curse song ever from my favorite cure album seventeen seconds
Finally the greatest song they ever made this song is this band 1980.
Love your reactions, this is such a a legendary performance by a legendary band of a legendary song. Get my point?
In November 2022 , The Cure will be in concert in France. Their music is very original.
Et j'y serai à Toulouse, des années que je ne les ai pas vus, j'ai hâte d'y être, c'est toute mon adolescence
Is Robert Smith singing “it’s such a long end” in that extra made up verse! 😀
yes.
This tempo gives it a bit of a surfy vibe...in black.
LOve love love this song .I worked at a record store in the eightees pumped it !
Hi... There, s another great Cover of this Song.. By a local Band of my Hometown.. :,, Smoke Blow-A forest, live, Pumpe 2006....🤘🎸
I remember when they (the Cure) were just beginning……….their sound was something special, knew they were going to get huge👍
My fave Cure Song!!! Yaaaayyy
One of my favorite tracks from The Cure
Give "The kiss" (studio version) a listen - it's darker than midnight in a goth's sock drawer!
trilogy live version is pretty sweet too.
Hell Yeah! Freakin LOVE The Cure! Thanks for reacting to them.
This song is one of their "must have" in their shows.
Not their best version, but funny story behind it
Saw them at the Garden a few nights ago! Robert still sounds amazing and they are still known for exceptionally long shows. They blew MSG’s curfew by far even though they fine bands for doing so!
This one of those bands that just sounds so English. That it’s unbelievably.
My girlfriend's favorite band in college. She said that his voice turned her on. We went to a show and it was madness. She wanted up front and it was crazy and we had to clear out. Not mosh pitting but bodies smashed on to each other in a rush as soon as the band hit. This was around 1993. I just started getting into them too. First "new" music for me, I'm a sixties/seventies fanatic (best period of music imo ;)
Funny story about drawing out the song bc i've always know them to do that with this song live anyway. Maybe this is the origin. It's a quick 3-4 min song on the album but would stretch to 20 min later. Very cool :)
Thanks again!
for me the best direct of the song A forest was in the live "Show" is spectacular, I recommend that you see it
So another bit of history to this. At 9.20 in your video the song normally ends. They impromptu the remainder of the song from the original lyrics that morphed into the recorded version. This version has not been played again so far as I know.
what a cool song
If you like this song, you should definitely check out one hundred years. It’s my favourite song by them. And it’s a bit darker and a bit heavier than this one
The cure is amazing WANT live is amazing
Mi favorita música ♫ ✨✨
The Cure's golden era no less... You should check M from the same album..
Thank you for sharing this video. I did not know this happend. Thats so funny!! Btw they were not that famous yet at that time.
When I looked up an example of two people trying to act cool at a concert but don't know the music I got this video of these two.
1. On bass, the brilliant and aptly-named Simon Gallup - like Peter Hook and Paul McCartney rolled into one
2. Robert is inconsistent as to whether this song is a metaphor for some turbulence in his long, not always happy, relationship with Mary Poole, or just a reminiscence of his childhood fear of becoming lost in some local woodland
3. This song originally was in the 6-7 minute range, but (as you might already know) this version of the song presaged a later trend. The Cure always did like to improvise, and this is one of their big jamming numbers. From the last leg of the 1984 tour, right through to the midpoint of the 1996 tour, they would ALWAYS play extended versions with adlibbed vocal parts and multiple guitar solos. In the early '90s A Forest averaged at 12-14 mins, but the longest one I know is of is a 17-minuter on an infamous 1998 night when Robert had taken LSD and was also knocking back the chateau-my-god..with predictable results.
In 1986 I was 12 and in the 7th grade and I remember one day all of the “preppy” girls crying and I heard a couple say they were gonna kill themself. I asked what is going on and finally someone said,” there’s a rumor going around Robert Smith is dead.” I live in Maryland and they were huge. I remember we used to skateboard fly ramps and we’d always have a boombox with us and it either would be playing Depeche Mode’s Speak and Spell album, The Cure, The Cult, Black Flag, the Sex Pistols, or The Violent Femmes first record. Those days seemed to last forever! We were young and we knew it, we were “cool” and we knew it. The 80’s were a great time for adolescence and then by 1990 I was 17 and Grunge was coming in and we were partying (just drinking and smoking) and those couple years were a blast as well till about 1995 and it was all over.
Who wouldn’t agree with it? I’ve seen The Cure 3 times, I wouldn’t go and see Robert Palmer if you paid me!
YES!!!!!!
Love The Cure
Saw them live in 1982 and twice since. They headlined Glastonbury as recently as 2019. No way they would be asked to make way for Plant now, or anyone else for that matter. Looking forward to seeing them again in Dec!!
VERSION A FOREST 14 MINUNTS LIVE .1992
the cure - legends. anyway,
you guys should check out anna von hausswolff. princess of doom, most powerful voice and a genre on her own. you want something soft and heavenly? go for "they hoped for a name". you want some acustic live performance? "stranger". you want to march with her and discover her pure and raw vocal power? "the myserious vanishing of electra"-music video.
Quite brilliant how they chose to make the song longer by drawing it out and adding unnecessary guitar solos etc. It feels like that specifically target Palmer. I mean 70's rock guys like him had solos that lasted half a day, punk and early goth typically had songs that kicked you in the groin and were gone again in less then 3 minutes. Love how they did it though.
Brill' track........
There may be better performances of this song but this is my favorite..can't beat the F you attitude after having been told to cut their set short so they could bring Robert palmer out...I love when he gets to the lines..such a long end,lol
big goth postpunk hymn... in a good way :)
The Cure brought alternative rock to the for front👍
Robert Palmer was pretty big for about 5 minutes. Must have been that 5 mins because The Cure have been up for longer and have more cred (but no dancing girls)
Robert Palmer had a career before "Addicted to Love".
@@JayTor2112 Looking for clues and She makes my day are my favourite
Robert Smith was born in Lancashire. Were i have lived from the age of 1 now 44.
Maybe it’s just me, but as much as I love The Cure, this song always felt like a goth remake of I Ran by Flock of Seagulls.
He call Ed them Punk. While listening to one of greatest ever goth songs.
Guys do the LIVE in Orange version from 1986 the old Roman Theatre in France perhaps the best ever version.
Robert Smith before makeup
The Toadies do a great cover of this song
So does Xymox.
This has to be some goths favourite song.
⚾️⚾️
Jam
this song the birth of goth
The Wolf Hunterz are listening to too many LIVE versions of songs.
It would be better to listen to the STUDIO VERSION.
The studio version is a better pace ( slower ) and has much better atmospherics.
The studio version is very eerie and has a lot more feel to it.
THE STUDIO VERSION IS SUPERIOR TO THIS LIVE VERSION.
THE STUDIO VERSION is in my Top 50 songs of all time.
I'm happy the Wolf Hunterz liked it.
How could you not like Robert Smith?
I remember going to the Record Store in 1979 to buy BOYS DON'T CRY.
A Forest was on their 2nd album -Seventeen Seconds released on 22 April 1980.
I agree about this version and the original studio version. It's the only Cure record I really like.
It was 1981 and Robert Palmer was not really a bigger act at all, Standing on a Beach is possibly there best album and they are still touring to this day
Standing on a beach is a greatest hits album...
Nice perfromance. Smith on point. The female reactor is a proper hotwife stuff.
I agree f Robert Palmer. He never made it in to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Checkout (Love Cats) another beauty
Sooooooooo early version..........unrecognisable............
Steven Wilson covers this. It's better :)