I want to highlight that when you think there is something wrong with your ears, go to a doctor! Physical malfunctioning can not be solved by training!
And when you experience tinnitus go to a doctor immediately! Sometimes the damage can be reversed, but if you wait for it to go away you risk having tinnitus for the rest of your life. And wear hearing protection in loud enviroments!
Have been on Soundgym for six months. Everyday user. Cannot believe how well i can identify certain frequencies now. I listen to old albums i've heard hundreds of times before and hear them now in terms of their frequencies. Never was aware of this before.
@@domdraper3221 It isn't really hard to have a daily routine because the guys who made Soundgym really understand incentives. So i'm drawn to reaching their prizes/goals, as silly as that seems. Plus i have my own system on the side to ensure i get in enough practice with it. I have graph paper that I give myself a check on after doing an exercise for instance. And i love seeing the graph paper fill up with these checks. It's just another incentive. I have set a limit for myself as to how many games i'm going to play however. I'm gonna probably taking a break after completing 4,000 games. I'm at about 3,000 now.
@@mnmj I used it nearly everyday for 9 months. The Balance Memory game was the most useful for me. Has made me very aware of levels in a mix. Reverb Wizard was another good one. That helped my vocal production.
@@mnmj The creator of it really understands incentives. I kept chasing after the little rewards and level-ups. The problem though is that I quit after I achieved the 'highest honors' diamond level. Lol.
Big fan of SoundGym here, nice to see your review. Really recommend this service. The panning game revealed serious issues with my imaging (despite a fair amount of acoustic treatment). It motivated me to rebuild my acoustic treatment and now it's so much better! Lol @ the guys thinking that you've "failed the most important skill" or that you need to know what 3500 Hz sounds like to make a good mix etc. That's like saying a pianist who doesn't have perfect pitch can't play or that a producer without knowledge of music theory is automatically crap at producing. People seem to forget music is about FEELING sound. Maybe the same people who need to check how many likes they are getting on social media to see if other people like them? ;) Keep it up, Wytse.
Please note it does start off easy and increase difficulty as you level up. It’s supposed to be not too difficult at 1st. I love this site. Been training for about 8 months almost every day and have noticed a huge improvement in my listening, EQ and mixing decisions. Definitely worth the money. Train your ears and avoid buying new gear (GAS syndrome).
I think this goes a long way to show just how subjective musical hearing can really be. I've been wondering about these training software things. I've never moved on it because I just didn't want to be throwing good money away. This video really opened my eyes. Thanks for putting this out there.
As a songwriter I thought of an app that could train your ear to improve melodies. Of course it would have to include rhythm as well. Keep up the good work!
This thing is so legit that it should be mandatory. I did daily workouts for a long period and after just a month I was able to make incredibly quick and precise EQ decisions. Recommended! 😉
Through TH-cam, Thunderbolt out to Focusrite Clarett 8PreX, into Yamaha HS8's....I was SURPRISED to be able to hear the audio differences! This is awesome and I'm sold on this for training! Thanks a lot!
Phillips used to do one called 'Golden Ears' which was very similar and the differences got less and less, the higher levels you got to. I eventually made it to Golden Ears status, but I think its not only trainable, but like any other exercise, it can deteriorate if you don't practice. Worth doing this every now and again...
Thanks for the review! I have done Philips Golden Ears training previously and it is super beneficial to have something measure you against your own perception and opinion. Key is having as close to linear monitoring as possible or you are at an immediate disadvantage.
HI! I got tinnitus a year ago. (Thats a physical thing.) To train the brain and be aware of your "new" kind of listening is a good thing. Thats because you can start doubting yourself in a mix situation. This site is good.
Awesome stuff. People who will try this after watching you will realize exactly how difficult it is for us regular Joes. I think you did great with the games. It is funny how you start hearing let's say 6k like a musical note :D
I'm actually surprised that it was that hard for you, I felt like all of those examples were like really obvious. Seeing a pro struggle this much made me feel confident about my hearing :D
Dom Draper Let me rephrase this for you: as a beginner, it was encouraging to realize that professionals don’t necessarily have superhuman hearing abilities.
I was surprised by how far off you were on the EQ test. I tried it myself and I'm pretty good at it. But I sucked at the stereo image/pan test :D I guess the EQ was easy for me because I'm doing live sound engineering from time to time. I have tuned PA systems by ear like 8-10 times a year for the past years. That really helped me out here
very interesting... I found that the compressor test was way hard for me because I tend to go for segregated dynamic compression, simply to bring up elements to cut through a mix and perhaps not as much to bring balance to the given sound. So without seeing the boosts and the cuts and makeup gains etc it was hard to determine what the test deems "compression" and how I hear it when I use it kind of thing... well played and great vid
Man I find EQ'ing the hardest thing to do because of all the variables,, mostly the room you are listening in has its own sound regardless of your speakers, not everyone has a perfectly "flat room" so you are not hearing the actual response of your monitors, you are also hearing your "ROOM"
hey in the test youre doing at 6:20 you consistently kept picking an octave above where the boost was. i dont know if you noticed that or what that means entirely but it may be something about your room or the way you hear sound, probably a mix of both mmm? ill day dream about it but this might be a useful tool in understanding what you can and cant hear in a given environment.
These exercises work great for frequency and location training. I only have the free membership for Soundgym because I think they are overpriced for what they offer, but there are many similar tools that are less expensive and more focused or broad, depending. The Quiztones apps are cool, Studio Ears is good, too, and mynoise.net (I think) has similar tools. It's amazing how much improvement just a little bit of practice every day makes, but I still can't quite get compression/dB changes as well as I'd like. I'm wondering if I have an issue that hampers dynamic sensitivity. I seem to need MASSIVE changes in compression to really be able to pick out things like pumping that others seem to hear so easily.
I don't want to say you failed at basic balancing of instruments and frequencies that some others are saying. I think having the in ear monitors as your main reference point probably wouldn't have been the best idea and you would have gotten better results on your monitors with some of those tests. But always interesting as usual, great to see more videos keep them coming!
Would this help you mix better? Having a better ear for certain things would certainly help, but would it help you listen to something and say, “you know what this mix needs…. It needs some compression here…” (or whatever)?
Hey Wytse, if you're really going to train with this website, like maybe a short time every day, I really expect you will see improvements quickly. You are totally right in that you can train this stuff. And seeing that it's just at the level where it's fun and still quite challenging to you (I would do worse, I'm certain), I think that's the sweet spot for making progress fast. How about you do another video of this in two weeks, and show us how much better you got? :-) (you could even livestream the practice sessions if that sort of thing motivates you--though I'm not sure how useful a 15 min livestream is, haha)
Great video!! I was wondering why you picked those earbuds instead of headphones like the 770HD? How good are those earbuds on cutting/adding low frequencies? Cheers!
Hey! Have you ever worked with Yamaha NS-10MM Mini? Are they any good? Asking because I've seen them for a good price, but I never got to work with them. Will much appreciate your reply. Thanks!
Thank you for this.... the first game was a little wack as even on a laptop speaker it's ovi. But it is so true about having to practice. I got a chance to create after a long long while and it was like starting again. I know I have to get my stuff again and spend half a year just getting back my mojo. Still love love your channel. My Favorite channel by far
Tricked by your own ear is one of the most craziest things.... I've been adjusting a plugin and hearing a slight difference and it wasn't even engaged... this is when i realized I need to sit back a bit and think less.
Idk if you have already, but should review Tonal balance control. I personally think it's the biggest snake oil shit ever made, and people are judging mix competitions with that crap plugin. It's making mix engineers not trust their own ears and the mixes that are done with it sound like muffled audio crap. I would love to see you tear it apart. 😎🔥🙏
A lot of times, my ear requires time to analyze. I can get in the ballpark of what I want pretty quick, but fine tuning takes 4 times longer than that.
Enjoyable video! Not quite as sophisticated or interactive but there is a free iPhone app called Quiztones which is helpful for this too but only for Eq and volume... I like the compression test on this one
This game is looks proper Nintendo hard! Allthough probably a lot more fair and forgiving in terms of difficulty then your average retro game. Those EQ curves, I couldn't do it if my life would depend on it.... The instrument balance looks like even I could do it based on intuition.
jajaja, venia deprimido de otro video por que en el otro video el compadre no fallaba una, ahora me voy a dormir tranquilo por que saqué mejor puntuación.
How can I ever trust anything you say again!!! J/K It's weird how on my phone O had absolutely no problem telling which clip was more compressed. I'll have to give this a try when I get home.
See this is a great tool but I wouldn’t say it’s the be all, end all of whether your a good engineer, I would never struggle the way I did with the peak master when it comes to actually making eq decisions, personally I don’t think in terms of 1.71khz is a little loud, it’s more “how do I make this fit in with everything else although I’m going to do it every day so I can have the skill of recognising specific frequencies and artifacts etc.
On the 3 preview games, I got better than 17% on the EQ, better than 90% on the gain, and better than 92% on the pan. It makes me feel like I don't need to bother with the subscription honestly
I've been doing SoundGym for a while now - it really does improve the way you concentrate on sound. BUT I am affraid after a while all it does is trains you to get better at those specific "games" - the same way when you go to the Gym - you get better at lifting weights in a specific way
I disagree with this (not 100% of course, just a little). It teaches you to really focus on nuances (as you said) because it's a game and most humans innately want to win and be above average, knowing how I fit in vs other users is depressing in one way and revealing in another. For me after a few hours it made me realize that there are some frequency bands that I really don't "Know" well or maybe for what ever reason not comfortable boosting or removing them. This game forces you to be a more rounded engineer and quickly reveals your weakness's. I hope this platform keeps expanding. Like for example a good game would be "Master this track" & "Remove the offending frequency"
I was generally a lot more precise on the frequency guessing than you. I think that comes from my live sound experience, where I have to find troublesome frequencies fast, all the time :) If you haven't done live work it might help you as well. Just be careful of your ears ;)
@@DanielLeschziner it would be easier. Sometimes, you have the right balance but not as à same volume as the reference. Yep maybe some kind of vca instead lol.
That was fun! Can't wait to brag about getting a few right that a pro got wrong.. while never mentioning the ones he got right that I was WAY off on ;)
@@domdraper3221 I love haters, especially coming from someone who does not have any Music of their own on their Blank youtube page! Hey, It's okay. But just so you know, I have Thousands of record sales. I have On those original songs You listened to More fans Than you probably make in a year. My music is being sold and Played worldwide. I would Say My Fans Would Beg to differ from your Jealous, Envious Hatred Remark. I never Claimed To Be A Great Mixing and Mastering Engineer, However, I Do Make A Living Recording, Producing, Mixing and Mastering My Own Music. I am Getting Better As I Continue to Learn and Grow! As you continue to Regress. I will even let you have the last word, as I refuse to Waste my time on a useless eater. Be Happy and Enjoy Your Life, Peace.
Real Music 4 you, yea you have no sales, and no fans. I can’t believe you wasted your time writing that rubbish comment, and I can’t believe you thought I would believe it. Hope you have a good day tomorrow working at Pizza Hut.
huh, i didnt expect you to be that off on so many of the frequencies, but then again youre using (new?) in ears, and those are probably why, i would suspect you would aim almost dead on using the speakers
It's fun, but a way too expensive subscription service imo. Maybe with running some sandstorm through the game, you would have kicked everyones ass and imediately reached super Master Engineer level.
www.webtet.net/apcl/#/ I've been using this one, so far to hone my EQ ears. Free site and it's a companion software to the Mcgill ear training program. Haven't tried Soundgym yet but I can say this one is very complete if you want to get detailed and challenge yourself! Has compression/expansion, reverb, mid side, cutoff millisecond times, mid-side and digital distortion.
Your comment about our ears fooling us: Ever tweak an EQ for a good while and realize the input was turned off? lol I got an 84% on the Peak Master, 70% on DB King, and 95% on PanMan; not great but not terrible Edit- Thanks for showing us this, it's way more affordable than another one I've been looking into
Holy shit that PanMan score. I got like 14% xDD While i got like 79% on Peak Master. I wonder if there's a change if I had used a pair of headphones instead of speakers.
@@Whiteseastudio Well, I meant in the sense that if most listeners are listening on earbuds now, shouldn't a mix sound good on earbuds? love your channel, man!
I want to highlight that when you think there is something wrong with your ears, go to a doctor! Physical malfunctioning can not be solved by training!
And when you experience tinnitus go to a doctor immediately! Sometimes the damage can be reversed, but if you wait for it to go away you risk having tinnitus for the rest of your life. And wear hearing protection in loud enviroments!
@@slawaschwed well, actually even at 25 your hearing is less sensitive than it was at 15
Your in ear monitor have a higher bass output the the game thing. That's why u went wrong few times
I got a 90% on the peck master game, my first try. whats your score?
Have been on Soundgym for six months. Everyday user. Cannot believe how well i can identify certain frequencies now. I listen to old albums i've heard hundreds of times before and hear them now in terms of their frequencies. Never was aware of this before.
Bud Marcom is it hard to stay consistent, or do you just set a time each day?
@@domdraper3221 It isn't really hard to have a daily routine because the guys who made Soundgym really understand incentives. So i'm drawn to reaching their prizes/goals, as silly as that seems. Plus i have my own system on the side to ensure i get in enough practice with it. I have graph paper that I give myself a check on after doing an exercise for instance. And i love seeing the graph paper fill up with these checks. It's just another incentive. I have set a limit for myself as to how many games i'm going to play however. I'm gonna probably taking a break after completing 4,000 games. I'm at about 3,000 now.
Two years later, how's your progress been with Soundgym. Are you still using it?
@@mnmj I used it nearly everyday for 9 months. The Balance Memory game was the most useful for me. Has made me very aware of levels in a mix. Reverb Wizard was another good one. That helped my vocal production.
@@mnmj The creator of it really understands incentives. I kept chasing after the little rewards and level-ups. The problem though is that I quit after I achieved the 'highest honors' diamond level. Lol.
Big fan of SoundGym here, nice to see your review. Really recommend this service. The panning game revealed serious issues with my imaging (despite a fair amount of acoustic treatment). It motivated me to rebuild my acoustic treatment and now it's so much better!
Lol @ the guys thinking that you've "failed the most important skill" or that you need to know what 3500 Hz sounds like to make a good mix etc. That's like saying a pianist who doesn't have perfect pitch can't play or that a producer without knowledge of music theory is automatically crap at producing. People seem to forget music is about FEELING sound. Maybe the same people who need to check how many likes they are getting on social media to see if other people like them? ;) Keep it up, Wytse.
Please note it does start off easy and increase difficulty as you level up. It’s supposed to be not too difficult at 1st.
I love this site. Been training for about 8 months almost every day and have noticed a huge improvement in my listening, EQ and mixing decisions. Definitely worth the money. Train your ears and avoid buying new gear (GAS syndrome).
Instantly signed up. Thanks a lot for showing this!
Gonna spread to my music friends too.
Exactly my thoughts
This test not only shows how good your ears are, but also hot well will those changes translate over your speakers/headphones.
i always wanted to see real engineer do Sound Gym :) enjoyed
I think this goes a long way to show just how subjective musical hearing can really be. I've been wondering about these training software things. I've never moved on it because I just didn't want to be throwing good money away. This video really opened my eyes. Thanks for putting this out there.
Really brave of you to post this!
As a songwriter I thought of an app that could train your ear to improve melodies. Of course it would have to include rhythm as well. Keep up the good work!
Thanks man..i felt crap at hearing but after i saw you in action i feel relieved lol!
This thing is so legit that it should be mandatory. I did daily workouts for a long period and after just a month I was able to make incredibly quick and precise EQ decisions. Recommended! 😉
Through TH-cam, Thunderbolt out to Focusrite Clarett 8PreX, into Yamaha HS8's....I was SURPRISED to be able to hear the audio differences! This is awesome and I'm sold on this for training! Thanks a lot!
Phillips used to do one called 'Golden Ears' which was very similar and the differences got less and less, the higher levels you got to. I eventually made it to Golden Ears status, but I think its not only trainable, but like any other exercise, it can deteriorate if you don't practice. Worth doing this every now and again...
Just to note. It works extremely well on your phone through any browser. I've never had any issues using it on the mobile.
With the compression test the decay on the drum hits are louder and thus appear to last longer.
welcome to the community brooo!!
Thanks for the review! I have done Philips Golden Ears training previously and it is super beneficial to have something measure you against your own perception and opinion. Key is having as close to linear monitoring as possible or you are at an immediate disadvantage.
Thanks for the heads up on this website. Very interesting training.
HI! I got tinnitus a year ago. (Thats a physical thing.) To train the brain and be aware of your "new" kind of listening is a good thing. Thats because you can start doubting yourself in a mix situation. This site is good.
Awesome stuff. People who will try this after watching you will realize exactly how difficult it is for us regular Joes. I think you did great with the games. It is funny how you start hearing let's say 6k like a musical note :D
Would be interesting how much more accurate you might be with your monitors vs the in ears
I'm actually surprised that it was that hard for you, I felt like all of those examples were like really obvious. Seeing a pro struggle this much made me feel confident about my hearing :D
Puli Stäkki Im confident that no one cares how good you think you are.
Dom Draper Let me rephrase this for you: as a beginner, it was encouraging to realize that professionals don’t necessarily have superhuman hearing abilities.
Puli Stäkki but they do.
So youre saying this guy is not a pro? I think he sure is
Puli Stäkki I’m pretty sure he hears way more than any of us. Just because he didn’t get a flying pass doesn’t mean a thing.
I was surprised by how far off you were on the EQ test. I tried it myself and I'm pretty good at it. But I sucked at the stereo image/pan test :D
I guess the EQ was easy for me because I'm doing live sound engineering from time to time. I have tuned PA systems by ear like 8-10 times a year for the past years. That really helped me out here
Rene W I aced the eq test and I have no experience with anything.
Woahhhh!!! This was a very good episode!! Guess which frequency the resonant tone of the notification bell is considering how hard I hit it lol.
Wow! Good to know this tool.
Thank you, pal.
very interesting... I found that the compressor test was way hard for me because I tend to go for segregated dynamic compression, simply to bring up elements to cut through a mix and perhaps not as much to bring balance to the given sound. So without seeing the boosts and the cuts and makeup gains etc it was hard to determine what the test deems "compression" and how I hear it when I use it kind of thing... well played and great vid
Brave! Good video! Training is everything - no matter if it is music, sports, or relationships!
Happy midsummer! :)
Man I find EQ'ing the hardest thing to do because of all the variables,, mostly the room you are listening in has its own sound regardless of your speakers, not everyone has a perfectly "flat room" so you are not hearing the actual response of your monitors, you are also hearing your "ROOM"
That's really a great thing you're sharing with us thanks alot😊
Im sitting watching with Genelec 8040 and The differences are so obvious.
agreed, listening on Adam A7X's with Sonarworks
Independent from the frequency spectrum your ears can percept, your abilities to find a good mix balance seem to be nil.
i was a bit iffy on the gain changes but i absolutely crushed the EQ stuff
Great video!... The balance part of this video sound A1 on my Focal trio 11.
I just saw the video and jumped straight on the page. it's trully funny
hey in the test youre doing at 6:20 you consistently kept picking an octave above where the boost was. i dont know if you noticed that or what that means entirely but it may be something about your room or the way you hear sound, probably a mix of both mmm? ill day dream about it but this might be a useful tool in understanding what you can and cant hear in a given environment.
heh, i watched a little more and see it baffled you. well there you go
It took courage to share this. Respect. :-)
Maybe you should use Sony MDR 7506
These exercises work great for frequency and location training. I only have the free membership for Soundgym because I think they are overpriced for what they offer, but there are many similar tools that are less expensive and more focused or broad, depending. The Quiztones apps are cool, Studio Ears is good, too, and mynoise.net (I think) has similar tools. It's amazing how much improvement just a little bit of practice every day makes, but I still can't quite get compression/dB changes as well as I'd like. I'm wondering if I have an issue that hampers dynamic sensitivity. I seem to need MASSIVE changes in compression to really be able to pick out things like pumping that others seem to hear so easily.
I don't want to say you failed at basic balancing of instruments and frequencies that some others are saying. I think having the in ear monitors as your main reference point probably wouldn't have been the best idea and you would have gotten better results on your monitors with some of those tests.
But always interesting as usual, great to see more videos keep them coming!
Actually it is the opposite , you need a good pair of headphone or IEM to be good at these games
as longer you train, they harder the level gets. eg. the EQ bands and tolerations are more narrow asf..
I like it, but often forget to use it.
I think this might be more helpful than some of the online music production courses out there.
Dude! That was fun and hilarious. I was right there with you.
Would this help you mix better? Having a better ear for certain things would certainly help, but would it help you listen to something and say, “you know what this mix needs…. It needs some compression here…” (or whatever)?
Looks like good training. Thank you.
Hey Wytse, if you're really going to train with this website, like maybe a short time every day, I really expect you will see improvements quickly. You are totally right in that you can train this stuff. And seeing that it's just at the level where it's fun and still quite challenging to you (I would do worse, I'm certain), I think that's the sweet spot for making progress fast. How about you do another video of this in two weeks, and show us how much better you got? :-) (you could even livestream the practice sessions if that sort of thing motivates you--though I'm not sure how useful a 15 min livestream is, haha)
One of your best videos LOOL Love to see you on a pressure LOL
They should really allow users to upload their own music into the database. You'll get better at the games, based on learning the songs they use.
Sir, what brand of critical listening in ear headphones did you use?
Can I use Sandstorm in this program??
Great video!! I was wondering why you picked those earbuds instead of headphones like the 770HD? How good are those earbuds on cutting/adding low frequencies? Cheers!
Hey! Have you ever worked with Yamaha NS-10MM Mini? Are they any good? Asking because I've seen them for a good price, but I never got to work with them. Will much appreciate your reply. Thanks!
Cool stuff. I've tried something similar while ago, I beleave it was some training from Izotope. But this one looks better from first view!
Just checked & it's still available on their site.
Thank you for this.... the first game was a little wack as even on a laptop speaker it's ovi.
But it is so true about having to practice.
I got a chance to create after a long long while and it was like starting again.
I know I have to get my stuff again and spend half a year just getting back my mojo.
Still love love your channel.
My Favorite channel by far
Tricked by your own ear is one of the most craziest things.... I've been adjusting a plugin and hearing a slight difference and it wasn't even engaged... this is when i realized I need to sit back a bit and think less.
I think it’s down to using in ears rather than monitors
the margin in eq cheetah is huge..still interesting game. will try it for sure.
@G T i figured
nice! i should try that too
Anyone have any good sites for music theory training?
pae.izotope.com/
You certainly can train your perception. I actually had a test on my university that consisted on that
Amazing , however Ihave already purchased stuff from dave moulton - Golden Ears / /that is way more harder than this. . . .
this video was fun big up bro sorry a cant become a patron but i watch the adds hope that helps tho
Idk if you have already, but should review Tonal balance control. I personally think it's the biggest snake oil shit ever made, and people are judging mix competitions with that crap plugin. It's making mix engineers not trust their own ears and the mixes that are done with it sound like muffled audio crap. I would love to see you tear it apart. 😎🔥🙏
The differences are big at first, then narrow down.. I need to practice more on there this week, actually.
A lot of times, my ear requires time to analyze. I can get in the ballpark of what I want pretty quick, but fine tuning takes 4 times longer than that.
you do realize izotope already does this for free on their website?
Enjoyable video! Not quite as sophisticated or interactive but there is a free iPhone app called Quiztones which is helpful for this too but only for Eq and volume... I like the compression test on this one
This game is looks proper Nintendo hard! Allthough probably a lot more fair and forgiving in terms of difficulty then your average retro game. Those EQ curves, I couldn't do it if my life would depend on it.... The instrument balance looks like even I could do it based on intuition.
jajaja, venia deprimido de otro video por que en el otro video el compadre no fallaba una, ahora me voy a dormir tranquilo por que saqué mejor puntuación.
So I wonder, what music do you listen to?
How can I ever trust anything you say again!!! J/K
It's weird how on my phone O had absolutely no problem telling which clip was more compressed.
I'll have to give this a try when I get home.
See this is a great tool but I wouldn’t say it’s the be all, end all of whether your a good engineer, I would never struggle the way I did with the peak master when it comes to actually making eq decisions, personally I don’t think in terms of 1.71khz is a little loud, it’s more “how do I make this fit in with everything else although I’m going to do it every day so I can have the skill of recognising specific frequencies and artifacts etc.
i guessed most of it near enough through my genelecs .. i think try it again on your monitors ... great video though : )
thats why folks dont get fooled by youtube , nowadays everyone calls him self engineer , for me this test is a piece of cake by the way
"This is absolutely not hard.... .....
..... ......
..... "That was hard."
😂
On the 3 preview games, I got better than 17% on the EQ, better than 90% on the gain, and better than 92% on the pan. It makes me feel like I don't need to bother with the subscription honestly
I've been doing SoundGym for a while now - it really does improve the way you concentrate on sound. BUT I am affraid after a while all it does is trains you to get better at those specific "games" - the same way when you go to the Gym - you get better at lifting weights in a specific way
I disagree with this (not 100% of course, just a little). It teaches you to really focus on nuances (as you said) because it's a game and most humans innately want to win and be above average, knowing how I fit in vs other users is depressing in one way and revealing in another. For me after a few hours it made me realize that there are some frequency bands that I really don't "Know" well or maybe for what ever reason not comfortable boosting or removing them. This game forces you to be a more rounded engineer and quickly reveals your weakness's. I hope this platform keeps expanding. Like for example a good game would be "Master this track" & "Remove the offending frequency"
I was generally a lot more precise on the frequency guessing than you. I think that comes from my live sound experience, where I have to find troublesome frequencies fast, all the time :) If you haven't done live work it might help you as well. Just be careful of your ears ;)
An iPhone app is actually a great idea, I will buy right away then! Thanks for the great video as always Wytse
iPhone doesn't have a browser now? No bookmarks? Apps are just fancy webpages that take up space on your phone
i got a perfect 100 on eq
The balance test should have a master fader ^^.
With master fader it would be too dificult
@@DanielLeschziner it would be easier. Sometimes, you have the right balance but not as à same volume as the reference. Yep maybe some kind of vca instead lol.
It’s always good to test your ears in a medical center that you know where your notches are.
"I know how it feels to sport." 😂
That was fun! Can't wait to brag about getting a few right that a pro got wrong.. while never mentioning the ones he got right that I was WAY off on ;)
Fuck I just realised that I lost 5khz of audio... cant hear above ~15khz :(((
And as you pass levels it gets harder and harder
Ouch. Hmmm.
Doing the best I can song were to find that the artist name a d all
Darude - Sandstorm
@@Whiteseastudio thanks family highly appreciated it
their accuracy percentage is super harsh lol
Thanks voor dit! Dit is VET!!
No offense, but I think I will continue to do my own Mixing and Mastering. It appears you still need ear training.
Real Music 4 you do you mean those muddy mixes on your page? Dude you need all the help you can get.
@@domdraper3221 I love haters, especially coming from someone who does not have any Music of their own on their Blank youtube page! Hey, It's okay. But just so you know, I have Thousands of record sales. I have On those original songs You listened to More fans Than you probably make in a year. My music is being sold and Played worldwide. I would Say My Fans Would Beg to differ from your Jealous, Envious Hatred Remark. I never Claimed To Be A Great Mixing and Mastering Engineer, However, I Do Make A Living Recording, Producing, Mixing and Mastering My Own Music. I am Getting Better As I Continue to Learn and Grow! As you continue to Regress. I will even let you have the last word, as I refuse to Waste my time on a useless eater. Be Happy and Enjoy Your Life, Peace.
Real Music 4 you, yea you have no sales, and no fans. I can’t believe you wasted your time writing that rubbish comment, and I can’t believe you thought I would believe it. Hope you have a good day tomorrow working at Pizza Hut.
another idea is to start listening to Brandenburg Concertos and follow every instrument's phase... then go to Beethoven's 9th lol
huh, i didnt expect you to be that off on so many of the frequencies, but then again youre using (new?) in ears, and those are probably why, i would suspect you would aim almost dead on using the speakers
Yeah, what I also saw is that I was just clicking so that it felt inside of the wide band it is giving us... kinda laziness
It's fun, but a way too expensive subscription service imo. Maybe with running some sandstorm through the game, you would have kicked everyones ass and imediately reached super Master Engineer level.
Uli Kah $7 for a year isn’t too bad.
@@domdraper3221 Are you sure ? It's per month I suppose...yep it's 25$ per month or 120$ subscription for a year 😑
Uli Kah yea it says 7 per month, but you have to pay up front for the year 😒
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I've been using this one, so far to hone my EQ ears. Free site and it's a companion software to the Mcgill ear training program.
Haven't tried Soundgym yet but I can say this one is very complete if you want to get detailed and challenge yourself!
Has compression/expansion, reverb, mid side, cutoff millisecond times, mid-side and digital distortion.
It seems good .A little overpriced .Would It help with my own compositions ?
love it.... they need a android app!
Your comment about our ears fooling us: Ever tweak an EQ for a good while and realize the input was turned off? lol
I got an 84% on the Peak Master, 70% on DB King, and 95% on PanMan; not great but not terrible
Edit- Thanks for showing us this, it's way more affordable than another one I've been looking into
Holy shit that PanMan score. I got like 14% xDD While i got like 79% on Peak Master. I wonder if there's a change if I had used a pair of headphones instead of speakers.
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+1
If you're making music for untrained ears, shouldn't you have the same ears?
Woow, thats a good one’
@@Whiteseastudio Well, I meant in the sense that if most listeners are listening on earbuds now, shouldn't a mix sound good on earbuds? love your channel, man!
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