I really think that the F1 games would benefit so much visually from just adding actual nose damage to the game as opposed to just the wing itself, it makes a lot of crashes look so goofy when you hit a wall at speed and you just *boink* off of the nose and spin around a few times with it perfectly intact
I think they need to rework the whole model tbf. I mean when you hit a car in the rear irl you would mount the other car, but in the game other cars act as brick walls.
that's true i playing f1 long time ago and o have mixed feelings about crashes. I knot to its game not real race but we live in 2021 other games have super crash models a lot of broken parts, in f1 when you hit the wall you loses front wing just like that maybe 2 or 3 parts fly away, there should be more efficiency. Let this smash look like a smash, not a light crash.
@@justinburley8659 *Rosberg 2016 Austria intensifies.The fact that it is illegal doesn't mean that you can't do that.The game should let you do that but give you a post-race penalty like the pit stop rule.
It is not possible? I don't play f1 games anymore, I only watch this channel but it is something which was possible on N64 in f1 world grand prix back in 1999 :)
Really looking forward to seeing what Codemasters can do in the future as it seems the restrictions around the sponsors seems to haven been lifted or reduced, remember when Codemasters couldnt make a better damage model as the sponsors had top be visible all the time? Maybe one day well get a damage model where every piece of the car can get broken off or bent etc Edit: Also i feel like they should split the front wing in two parts because if you damage your front wing its either orange or the whole thing off completely, would be cool to see just a part missing
So they put back in the original damage model? The main reason I never got the game was I read that sponsors were all pissed off because the piece flew off with their name on it so codemaster removed the original damage model.
@@StarForgedTCG yeah it needs to be a full front wing most of the time it’s only happened to me once I remember it was turn 3 at Spain and I was in a RedBull
@@penguinboy4836 I remember getting a puncture from debris after a safety car and being so pissed like "What was the safety car for if not to clear debris"
@@voldemortjudges7142 "tyre failure" acting as if max made the mistake. "Oh ok! Max driving in a straight line, worst driver ever!" is that what you're saying?
They need to make the damage model more detailed for the floor and rear wing. Slamming into the wall at 100mph with the rear wing only causes a tiny scratch. I think it should rid it completely off or completely disable DRS/ keep it jammed open. For floor damage it's pretty lacklustre. It needs to be way more visual and properly properly damaged, same with sidepod. I also think they should add the properly explosive punctures (look at Stroll and Verstappen at Baku) and the full tear up on the rim, Lewis Hamilton 2020 Silverstone style. Overall, happy with the changes but needs to be changed a bit
@@itshttpoli323 That is where the official F1 games are a bit confusing. They have a really ambiguous genre when it comes to what racing game it is trying to be. They are trying to make it more simulator-like, yet they are limited to some arcade elements by licensing. Codies and EA should really negotiate these things because a realistic damage model would do wonders for the game and the brands.
@@cameronwba6243 Yeah, I worked on a Hotwheels game about 20 years ago. Even back then the car manufacturers were really picky about what we were allowed to do with the virtual Hotwheels toy cars based on their vehicles in our game LOL. It's probably even worse with sponsors logos added to the mix.
Can't wait for this game, just really hope the Driver Transfer system is fixed/improved for this years game because if it is then this game could very well go down as one of my all time favourites
I wish that the crash sequence didn’t slow down and stop early. I like it when the crashes play out in real-time at real speed and then YOU choose to exit, not the game.
Totally agree. Why they don‘t just let the car come to a stand still before cutting out, I don‘t know. I‘m afraid they gonna do the same thing with mechanical failures. I would also love to drive the car back to the pits after Qualifying and the race instead of just the ai taking over
I would like to see F1 2021 have a career mode where you can become the team principal and pick your drivers and you can only sit back and make decisions. Also you can be a member of the pit crew and develop your skills in the pits. This will change the game up a little bit as you can pick 3 career modes. 1 being driver 2 being pit member 3 being team principal/engineer
It’ll be interesting having rear wing damage, something I can’t recall being in F1 games since the days of Geoff Crammond’s Grand Prix series. Man I used to love those games back on the day.
The only thing that annoys me when there is a crash or someone retires is that the cars just disappear it actually really get me annoyed the lack of realism 😅😅
Good to see that you can also see the tyres wearing out and graining and stuff now as well as the extra attention to detail. Good to see floor damage is a thing now but it would also be nice for the rear wing to break properly like the front wing does when it takes a heavy impact
All I really want to see is realistic punctures. Not just only deflation, but literal dismemberment of the carcass if the tyre. Also suspension damage would be cool. It only took them 10 years to finally make a kinda realistic damage model
I love that they worked on the damage model but can they get rid of the gta wasted screen? I want to see what happens or steer my car off the track not just auto stop
You could actually get floor damage on f12012. I hit a corner entry kerb coming into turn 2 (one of those ones that made the car fly in the air like Mark Webber in China) and when I landed my engineer told me that I had floor damage. The car had terrible handling and was very unstable.
Im supprised that in 2021,the damage isn't more realistic. I appreciate that it's not easy to replicate but why don't the rear wings fall appart like the front wings? Why don't rear wheels detach from the car's ect. Tyre blowouts should flap around and rip the bodywork off . Can only assume it's to hard to replicate in a virtual world. Good vids , keep it up!
Does anyone else also think that the rear wing damage seems a bit unrealistic, particularly in the way it is caused? Rear-ending a car would damage the diffuser and maybe the rear wing endplates. Chips in the rear wing elements would never occur as the result of a shunt, not even if the car were to lift. The damage almost looks like someone is puncturing the rear wing with a 10ft pole.
Floor and side pod damage aren’t new (at least for FOM car), the only thing new is that it actually impact performance. And I just noticed the Ai finally knows how to drive around accident site instead of getting stuck.
Question !? When you are in cockpit view.. Can you see you mirrors better this time? Are they a bit closer to the sides of the car? A little bit further? I know you can change your settings with horizontal and field of view.. But my settings are like this.. I like to look to the left and right when i turn. So when i turn left (wheel) i also look left into the apex.. So my wheel animation is off. Because i'm pretty close.. But when i'm to far away.. (when i wanna see the side mirrors) then when i turn.. I look at the inside of the car.. 😳 So did they changed it a bit? I know some people are complaining about the same issue on 2019 and 2020
The one thing I never got in F1 games is to do when the wheels break.... Like irl we've seen wheels come flying off, but in F1 games they're attached by some cord n it just bounces around as you crash lmao
They need to put in engine's blowing up if you run them too hot. As well as your gear box. Shifting from 8th to 1st would break a gear box if you use it as a break to stop. Realism Codies please .
Is that a damage indicator for the rear brake ducts? Did you try constantly locking up the brakes and seeing if you can get them to fail? That would be sick if you could.
Let just hope the AI is just as vulnerable for damage as the player. In previous games, AI could hit a wall at high speed only knocking off an endplate
I think driving into somebody shouldn't do rear wing damage usually - in real F1 it would not do that either, as the front wing is too low compared to the rear wing (if you don't happen to jump the car in front, like Leclerc in Austria 2020). Somebody pointed out to me, that punctures would be a good idea and I agree but I am very happy with the changes they did for now, I like how they listen more and more to the community and keep on improving the games
Yes, already confirmed they're not, they're working on imola, portimao and jeddah all of them coming at a later date, not on game release, by the time they finish these 3 tracks they will probably be working on F1 2022.
i like this damage system, but: -Tyres are sooo glitchy, hope it gets fixed and they can detach -Wing damage is all good and that, but why is it not detachable? honestly it happens in f1 more frequently than "HOLES" in the wings.. has it really something to do with sponsors not wanting the cars to be destroyed? Awful. -They could improve the safety car.. Also it would be cool if they let you "drive" for some seconds before DNF.
Petition to make the rear wing able to come completely off like the front wing? and also make it so if its off then less drag but more oversteer and no out corner downforce?
Can I ask whether the shark bites out of the rear wing is really realistic visually looks awesome but pull have have thought damage would cause part of it to fall off or something
is there ever a case where the wheel flies off completely unhatched and becomes its own large object/ debris to dodge as well as the crippled vehicle, that would be something very good to see imo from codemasteres.
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Ben: “smashes into Alonso’s wheel”
Also Ben: “that’s pretty sensitive”
Usual Ben
Yeah but in the last games the front wing would just break for code master standards it’s pretty sensitive
Dive bombs in online will have a whole new meaning
About time ...
Literal dive "bombs"
@@myk1137 *BOOM*
i swear if codies dont add option to turn off the back end damage i quit unranked lobby
@@hydegrant4895 im not getting it if its not optional, online will be 10x worse and ill never finish a race.
I really think that the F1 games would benefit so much visually from just adding actual nose damage to the game as opposed to just the wing itself, it makes a lot of crashes look so goofy when you hit a wall at speed and you just *boink* off of the nose and spin around a few times with it perfectly intact
I think they need to rework the whole model tbf. I mean when you hit a car in the rear irl you would mount the other car, but in the game other cars act as brick walls.
@@ajcF1 yeah the old f1 games 2011 specifically out of the ones ive played had the best damage model
that's true i playing f1 long time ago and o have mixed feelings about crashes. I knot to its game not real race but we live in 2021 other games have super crash models a lot of broken parts, in f1 when you hit the wall you loses front wing just like that maybe 2 or 3 parts fly away, there should be more efficiency. Let this smash look like a smash, not a light crash.
You know what would be cool? Losing a wheel, but still being able to bring the car back to the pits like Michael Schumacher 1998 Belgium...
Pretty sure that’s illegal now
@@justinburley8659 *Rosberg 2016 Austria intensifies.The fact that it is illegal doesn't mean that you can't do that.The game should let you do that but give you a post-race penalty like the pit stop rule.
It is not possible? I don't play f1 games anymore, I only watch this channel but it is something which was possible on N64 in f1 world grand prix back in 1999 :)
Like in f1 2006 ps2. I hate that you lose a wheel and get that ugly grey screen
@@valenesco45 cars in 2006 didnt had wires attached to the rim so the wheel cant go fly anywhere.
Mick litteraly got morphed into the shadow realm. Super GT would be proud
Indeed
Now when people rage online the whole grid wont finish the race
Or starting from last just became even more powerful lol
It's gonna be Worse when your at Monza or Monaco
14:43 "Did I have the magic on?"
"Erm, yeah you did Lewis."
9:43 This used to be a replay glitch in old codemasters game where you'd just die after a replay. Glad to see them bringing baack old features
8:38 even the safety car cant handle the castle section
Bruuuuh
More like “unsafety car” amirite???
This is going to completely change league racing! Well everything tbh especially unranked 😅
indeed
No more 11 yo kids brake checking you and then get away with it with no damage
@@Wingbar very true
It'll force everybody to play without damage, since it's impossible for people online to race like decent human beings
@@francois_vivierz most likely
Really looking forward to seeing what Codemasters can do in the future as it seems the restrictions around the sponsors seems to haven been lifted or reduced, remember when Codemasters couldnt make a better damage model as the sponsors had top be visible all the time? Maybe one day well get a damage model where every piece of the car can get broken off or bent etc
Edit: Also i feel like they should split the front wing in two parts because if you damage your front wing its either orange or the whole thing off completely, would be cool to see just a part missing
I think it’s maybe more realistic because EA makes the game now.
EA doesn't make the game, they just publish it now instead of codies doing everything themselves
@@sneakysnake7695 for this edition, theoretically from 2022 they'll start to also make the game, but not replacing codies
So they put back in the original damage model? The main reason I never got the game was I read that sponsors were all pissed off because the piece flew off with their name on it so codemaster removed the original damage model.
6:25 that rear-end of the SC though😍
The punctures by hitting debris has been in the games for a while I remember I got a puncture for running over a front wing in f1 2017 or 2018
Its really hard though, ive tried on purpose and never gotten it
@@StarForgedTCG yeah it needs to be a full front wing most of the time it’s only happened to me once I remember it was turn 3 at Spain and I was in a RedBull
The damage has to be set to "realistic" for this to happen. Then it happens every time.
@@penguinboy4836 I remember getting a puncture from debris after a safety car and being so pissed like "What was the safety car for if not to clear debris"
i’ve got one playing unranked lobby monaco with simulation
5:25 tire was like: nope
Clicked faster on this than redbulls fastest pitstop
even faster than maxes "tyre failure"?
@@voldemortjudges7142 "tyre failure" acting as if max made the mistake. "Oh ok! Max driving in a straight line, worst driver ever!" is that what you're saying?
@@_kurjala @BNG 100 did he say that it was maxes fault tho?
@@dasportsfan2122 Ikr
@@_kurjala stop getting so mad bro chill
I can imagine Jeff repeating "Are you okay?" with every race done to test the damage models HAHA!
They need to make the damage model more detailed for the floor and rear wing. Slamming into the wall at 100mph with the rear wing only causes a tiny scratch. I think it should rid it completely off or completely disable DRS/ keep it jammed open.
For floor damage it's pretty lacklustre. It needs to be way more visual and properly properly damaged, same with sidepod.
I also think they should add the properly explosive punctures (look at Stroll and Verstappen at Baku) and the full tear up on the rim, Lewis Hamilton 2020 Silverstone style.
Overall, happy with the changes but needs to be changed a bit
They have limitations because of sponsors needing to be visible at all times
@@itshttpoli323 That is where the official F1 games are a bit confusing. They have a really ambiguous genre when it comes to what racing game it is trying to be. They are trying to make it more simulator-like, yet they are limited to some arcade elements by licensing. Codies and EA should really negotiate these things because a realistic damage model would do wonders for the game and the brands.
isn't the wing damage quite unrealistic, i have never seen a rear wing in real life get holes in it
Exactly what I think too. They should have made the rear wing fall off on big impacts in a wall but not this unrealistic nonsense.
@@ronage6 lewis hamilton baku 2021 look at the restart they talked about it
@@ronage6 the sponsors won’t allow it unfortunately
yeah
@@cameronwba6243 Yeah, I worked on a Hotwheels game about 20 years ago. Even back then the car manufacturers were really picky about what we were allowed to do with the virtual Hotwheels toy cars based on their vehicles in our game LOL. It's probably even worse with sponsors logos added to the mix.
Content creator: "In this video, I am going to do some mess that no one has EVER seen in F1"
Mazepin: "Hold my beer"
Mazepin has caused less damage than mick....
Can't wait for this game, just really hope the Driver Transfer system is fixed/improved for this years game because if it is then this game could very well go down as one of my all time favourites
5:50
Ben For what?!
Kimi: Hey who is this McLaren guy he’s imitating me. Someone tell him to stop!
I wish that the crash sequence didn’t slow down and stop early. I like it when the crashes play out in real-time at real speed and then YOU choose to exit, not the game.
Totally agree. Why they don‘t just let the car come to a stand still before cutting out, I don‘t know. I‘m afraid they gonna do the same thing with mechanical failures.
I would also love to drive the car back to the pits after Qualifying and the race instead of just the ai taking over
The game looked better in the pre release lol. I can't seem to get the amount of damage Ben is getting here in the game at the moment.
"Even the safety car isn't safe in this video..."
*This is more impossible than Ben getting a good setup for a league race*
I would like to see F1 2021 have a career mode where you can become the team principal and pick your drivers and you can only sit back and make decisions. Also you can be a member of the pit crew and develop your skills in the pits. This will change the game up a little bit as you can pick 3 career modes. 1 being driver 2 being pit member 3 being team principal/engineer
It’ll be interesting having rear wing damage, something I can’t recall being in F1 games since the days of Geoff Crammond’s Grand Prix series. Man I used to love those games back on the day.
There are a lot of "I hope that in the final version..." in this video, I'm sensing EA will let us down with this.
I wish that safety cars do take damage and also have driver faults like causing an AI to crash or spinning out
We need more modern Games that has actual AI driving Errors
The only thing that annoys me when there is a crash or someone retires is that the cars just disappear it actually really get me annoyed the lack of realism 😅😅
Name one racing game where there is an animation for every time a car retires
@@justinburley8659 dont some the grand prix games have an animation of marshalls rolling you off the track?
@@justinburley8659 I’m just saying. Would be cool to have something like that
I think the fact that the correct wheels fell off at 12:12 is a great example of how much progress they've made.
3:07 literally made a Reddit post about this issue on how the AI would take your Tire off, yet theirs would stay on.
Good to see that you can also see the tyres wearing out and graining and stuff now as well as the extra attention to detail. Good to see floor damage is a thing now but it would also be nice for the rear wing to break properly like the front wing does when it takes a heavy impact
2:53 Halo saves Hamilton
Now you can actually get killed from the rear on online, awesome
11:38
Head reacts to impact
Pauses, realize the gamespeed has slowed down
Head bobbling intensifies
Watching the Safety Car barreling towards you was terrifying. XD
9:01
Safety Car: Hits Barrier
Me in my head: *I am stupid, I am stupid* in a *Legreg* voice
4:30 me : wtf am I watching...
Also me : oh it's a mazepin replay makes sense
8:38 Everyone: "I am stupid"
Safety car: "I am, *Not stupid!*"
The lighting and more colourful shading is impressive.
All I really want to see is realistic punctures. Not just only deflation, but literal dismemberment of the carcass if the tyre. Also suspension damage would be cool. It only took them 10 years to finally make a kinda realistic damage model
thats what they're building to I'd say. Hopefully not too long now.
I love that they worked on the damage model but can they get rid of the gta wasted screen? I want to see what happens or steer my car off the track not just auto stop
Ben I wonder what happens if I hit the Safety car.
Ben hits the Safety car.
Safety car: Haha NO!
there was some rear wing damage in f1 2017 in one of your career mode episodes
Unranked lobbies will be hell with damage on
The beta one is better than released version tbh
You could actually get floor damage on f12012. I hit a corner entry kerb coming into turn 2 (one of those ones that made the car fly in the air like Mark Webber in China) and when I landed my engineer told me that I had floor damage. The car had terrible handling and was very unstable.
0:51 so realistic, someone crashed randomly into Alonso xD
Why do I hear that guy from War Thunder shouting “You’ve got a hole in your rear wing!” when I see the rear wing damage model?
True
14:07 Yup, Jeff is trying to explain that you've had to retire due to too much damage.
2:46 Michael Schumacher at the 1998 Belgian Grand Prix disagrees with you
Im supprised that in 2021,the damage isn't more realistic. I appreciate that it's not easy to replicate but why don't the rear wings fall appart like the front wings? Why don't rear wheels detach from the car's ect. Tyre blowouts should flap around and rip the bodywork off . Can only assume it's to hard to replicate in a virtual world. Good vids , keep it up!
I wish the slow mo that F1 puts in when you get terminal damage didn’t happen as quickly as it does, or at all
That’s always the excuse of codemasters: it’s an early version, thus most the time stays the same throughout the game life
Fighter pilots are a tough comparison because they've worn anti-G suits for decades to keep from passing out in high-g maneuvers
5:06 did a Lance Stroll in qualifying
Giovinazzi in Q3,Max FP3 and Charles FP2
Oh my god when the safety car got stuck at turn 8 I busted out laughing for some reason
Does anyone else also think that the rear wing damage seems a bit unrealistic, particularly in the way it is caused? Rear-ending a car would damage the diffuser and maybe the rear wing endplates. Chips in the rear wing elements would never occur as the result of a shunt, not even if the car were to lift. The damage almost looks like someone is puncturing the rear wing with a 10ft pole.
I have never seen rear wing damaged like that in real life in my whole life of watching F1.
press F for all the cars that have been smashed in this video
Floor and side pod damage aren’t new (at least for FOM car), the only thing new is that it actually impact performance.
And I just noticed the Ai finally knows how to drive around accident site instead of getting stuck.
"I've never seen a case where u lose a tire and can continue on" meanwhile Micheal Schumacher after crashing into backmarkers:
Question !?
When you are in cockpit view.. Can you see you mirrors better this time?
Are they a bit closer to the sides of the car? A little bit further? I know you can change your settings with horizontal and field of view.. But my settings are like this.. I like to look to the left and right when i turn. So when i turn left (wheel) i also look left into the apex.. So my wheel animation is off. Because i'm pretty close.. But when i'm to far away.. (when i wanna see the side mirrors) then when i turn.. I look at the inside of the car.. 😳
So did they changed it a bit? I know some people are complaining about the same issue on 2019 and 2020
We all know the safety car is made out of solid duranium.
*Graphene
2:50 Didn't Michael Schumacher kinda do that in the 1998 Belgian GP? Lost a wheel from hitting Coulthard and made it back to the garage.
The one thing I never got in F1 games is to do when the wheels break.... Like irl we've seen wheels come flying off, but in F1 games they're attached by some cord n it just bounces around as you crash lmao
They need to put in engine's blowing up if you run them too hot.
As well as your gear box. Shifting from 8th to 1st would break a gear box if you use it as a break to stop.
Realism Codies please .
Why are you so criminally good at making such videos😭
The only person really qualified to make this kind of vid.
2:47 I think you forgot about that time in your f1 2020 reactions where someone was driving without a tyre?
Do you know if there will be crossplay at f1 2021?
the physics on the tyres are very intense in this build
Is that a damage indicator for the rear brake ducts? Did you try constantly locking up the brakes and seeing if you can get them to fail? That would be sick if you could.
Let just hope the AI is just as vulnerable for damage as the player.
In previous games, AI could hit a wall at high speed only knocking off an endplate
I think driving into somebody shouldn't do rear wing damage usually - in real F1 it would not do that either, as the front wing is too low compared to the rear wing (if you don't happen to jump the car in front, like Leclerc in Austria 2020). Somebody pointed out to me, that punctures would be a good idea and I agree but I am very happy with the changes they did for now, I like how they listen more and more to the community and keep on improving the games
2:48
Hamilton: I took that as a challenge
Can't wait to play this game and destroy people rear wings and get a new front wing in the pit
Someone stop this man
You type of people just ruin the game
Just play Derby games then.
*sarcasm*
Am i right in thinking that they are not updating Spain and Australia?
Yes, already confirmed they're not, they're working on imola, portimao and jeddah all of them coming at a later date, not on game release, by the time they finish these 3 tracks they will probably be working on F1 2022.
5:03
IS THAT THE HONDA OFF-THROTTLE GURGLE?! FINALLY!!!
Cutscene after winning is same no vettel finger or Hamilton helmet pointing
So cool that you can see if your tyre has a flatspot
i like this damage system, but:
-Tyres are sooo glitchy, hope it gets fixed and they can detach
-Wing damage is all good and that, but why is it not detachable? honestly it happens in f1 more frequently than "HOLES" in the wings.. has it really something to do with sponsors not wanting the cars to be destroyed? Awful.
-They could improve the safety car..
Also it would be cool if they let you "drive" for some seconds before DNF.
Question Ben.
What config of Albert park are they using??? 2020 or 2021??
Petition to make the rear wing able to come completely off like the front wing? and also make it so if its off then less drag but more oversteer and no out corner downforce?
The real question: do tyres randomly explode and yeet you into a wall?
How do wear punctures work this year? Is it still above 70% it’s random when it occurs?
4:20 i like to create a mess or a collustion
when i get bored
Gordon Murray: "Carbon fibre is the new, strong future of F1!"
F1 2021: hold my beer...
It was tho
Looks like every driver has been hitting the Gym. They look bulky.😂
8:38 The safety car hit the wall!
Can I ask whether the shark bites out of the rear wing is really realistic visually looks awesome but pull have have thought damage would cause part of it to fall off or something
I wanna see Max be the only one on the f1 2022 cover after he wins this year. Just him alone excited af
Only if he knew
4:58 i think Ericsson hit us
-some french baguette
Grosjean's enginner said that,not Grosjean.
You destroyed your wheel for running over a front wing @5:45. This is something we wanted for a long time.
Nobody:
Jeff: just little damage
12:09 .. was waiting for Mazespin xD
7:51 I saw it move! It moved like an inch😂
I love the "wasted" effect on this one!
is there ever a case where the wheel flies off completely unhatched and becomes its own large object/ debris to dodge as well as the crippled vehicle, that would be something very good to see imo from codemasteres.