Wargaming really need to stop nerfing the tanks everyone plays because they're good or balanced and start buffing the tanks not many people play because they're bad or outperformed and also stop releasing big derp guns that can 2 to 4 shot people without even aiming
The problem is the tanks that get nerfed are the tanks that nobody plays! Mino was the Third least played tier x TD behind the newer lines. But because most who have it are more experienced the W/Rs higher so it looks to be performing better than a tank like the E4 Which is OP but performs poorly because every man and his dog plays it (130.000 battles vs 20.000 according to wot stars) Nerfs are good if applied to the right tanks. Same as buffs for poor performers. Trying not to power creep is a difficult balance
@Petty360 the other issue I often see with the E4 is that everyone knows how dangerous they can be so they it gets focused on so the survival rate is probably lower than average and then you get the poor old E3 that is so outclassed by the E4 its no longer worth playing.
Wargaming buffs stuff that don’t need buffs like the leopard, nerfs stuff that don’t need nerfing like the minotauro. I have been enjoying the d-day mode though.if any tanks need nerfs it’s the British tier 10 tds, theirs literally a fv4005 or 183 in every game, the ruthless as well. At least nerf the hesh and he on some of these big high tier guns like the 4005’s hesh and type 5 heavy’s derp gun splash damage
the leopard buff was just bringing it in line with changes PC got years ago. The British TD's have already been nerfed enough with damage reductions so instead of another nerf, WG could change the way our HE splash mechanics works like PC
@@nfsfanAndrew not worthless but changing its mechanics so it can have the properties of an AP shell effectively. The PC meta and console meta are also different, we don't have a hull down meta, instead we have a speed and TD meta. A prime example being the super-conqueror that was dominant on PC but average on console . Not to mention tank balancing is already far worse on console than on PC
Wargaming doesn't have staff actively playing multi-player games. They just look at their analytics and judge what to do with their game based on those stats alone. How anything plays in their game or the end game reward ranking system being fucked, they just don't know about or care about at this point, or they would make major gameplay and reward system adjustments. Presumably, if they had a brain, they would have made major changes years ago. But, of course, this is Wargaming and Wargaming will never acknowledge that they have done anything wrong over the years, and thus, we see the proliferation of bots populating their matches.
I agree it was never op. I unlocked it and just had a few games in it, before the nerf..😢 I now wonder if I should have picked the French TD line instead. Some of my friends say French TD'S are better.. Tanks for the new review..
I personally love this tank even with the nerfs, it’s one of my fav tier x tanks and I play hyper aggressively I only am missing maybe 5-6 tier x tanks and they’re the shitty ones like the 30b It’s armor is solid, depression is solid, penetration is solid (I spam heat though), and it’s just a pleasure to play despite its stats on paper. The intra clip sucks no doubt but angling the armor makes it very hard to deal with The reload is very fast for an autoloader, can confuse enemies when you’re fully loaded or not cuz the intra clip is so high I think it needs the aim time equipment though especially with the nerf I love this thing and am chasing my one mark
Bad mobility he says as it carries pretty much the same if not better armor than a t110e3 while going 30 instead of 24. And a turret. And an autoloader. And 10 degrees of gun depression. What? Plus its more or less invulnerable hull down. How did it not need a nerf? What am i missing here?
Worse Armour than the E3 by quite a margin on the Hull (which is still good btw) Gun handlings horrific compared to E3 and DPM is also worse. But E3s been left in the Doldrums of balance compared to everything else for years
The number of shots that go into the dirt, when hull-down and peeking over a ridge is ridiculous. And if you mention nerfing the AVRE or Taran, you are branded a lunatic and WG won't even acknowledge the issue... they rarely touch PREMIUM tanks, but they will crap all over tech tree tanks.
I been suffering in china lines to get to heavys finally got the is2 yesh aint that great and always still get matches two teirs higher then me wargaming needs to fix the match maker got upteired for three days straight win ratios on my stats is 30 percent as a new player
Yeh i can see why people don't go for it, it was just supposed to be sustained DPM where Ammoracks and stuns don't affect it (stuns we don't have but they were copypasta'd from PC)
Why nerf? Because spreadsheet says so. Just look at w/r and survivability and you see which tanks will be nerfed or buffed😂. Thats as far as WG does research. After all they do not play their own game😂
How about nerf the Taran, AVRE, and countless other PTW tanks, na well just nerf the tanks that people spend countless hours grinding instead of the ones where you can be dumb as a doorknob pick up for money and do good in
same in wotb blitz wg have sometings agains shwedish tech tree sure .this is the erason why ı gived up shedish tds and also emil line,not just this ı ıselled back all what ı buyed before this techtree is for me useless total. ı just keeped tier 5-6 smoventes !wg stollen all you game fun nerf terror didnt stopped ! we must think to this point:why wg doing this nerfs ? a healty logic ( everyone who crying aboute a tank power.have the same chance to buy and play to,so why nerfed then ?ı guess behinde all this is marketing tacktics !
Not for tank balancing and stuff like that. And not really much say tbf. They might bring a change to us and ask us what we think but that's unlikely to change much of anything. At the end of the day I'm a hobbyist YT creator with 8k subs, they're a Billion dollar company.
Wargaming really need to stop nerfing the tanks everyone plays because they're good or balanced and start buffing the tanks not many people play because they're bad or outperformed and also stop releasing big derp guns that can 2 to 4 shot people without even aiming
Totally agree with you!
The problem is the tanks that get nerfed are the tanks that nobody plays!
Mino was the Third least played tier x TD behind the newer lines.
But because most who have it are more experienced the W/Rs higher so it looks to be performing better than a tank like the E4 Which is OP but performs poorly because every man and his dog plays it (130.000 battles vs 20.000 according to wot stars)
Nerfs are good if applied to the right tanks. Same as buffs for poor performers.
Trying not to power creep is a difficult balance
@@Petty360 i agree with you. WG is not doing a good job when they are balancing tanks. Report WG for unsportsmanlike behavior 🤣🤣🤣
@Petty360 the other issue I often see with the E4 is that everyone knows how dangerous they can be so they it gets focused on so the survival rate is probably lower than average and then you get the poor old E3 that is so outclassed by the E4 its no longer worth playing.
Well said 👍
Wargaming buffs stuff that don’t need buffs like the leopard, nerfs stuff that don’t need nerfing like the minotauro. I have been enjoying the d-day mode though.if any tanks need nerfs it’s the British tier 10 tds, theirs literally a fv4005 or 183 in every game, the ruthless as well. At least nerf the hesh and he on some of these big high tier guns like the 4005’s hesh and type 5 heavy’s derp gun splash damage
the leopard buff was just bringing it in line with changes PC got years ago. The British TD's have already been nerfed enough with damage reductions so instead of another nerf, WG could change the way our HE splash mechanics works like PC
@@taitgovender2593 what so HE becomes worthless? No. Pc is nothing but invulnerable hull down tanks. Screw that
@@nfsfanAndrew not worthless but changing its mechanics so it can have the properties of an AP shell effectively. The PC meta and console meta are also different, we don't have a hull down meta, instead we have a speed and TD meta. A prime example being the super-conqueror that was dominant on PC but average on console . Not to mention tank balancing is already far worse on console than on PC
@@nfsfanAndrewId rather be in a hull down meta by far
the HESH shells have been nerfed a lot and the fv4005 too
Wargaming doesn't have staff actively playing multi-player games.
They just look at their analytics and judge what to do with their game based on those stats alone.
How anything plays in their game or the end game reward ranking system being fucked, they just don't know about or care about at this point, or they would make major gameplay and reward system adjustments. Presumably, if they had a brain, they would have made major changes years ago. But, of course, this is Wargaming and Wargaming will never acknowledge that they have done anything wrong over the years, and thus, we see the proliferation of bots populating their matches.
So,
Anymore news concerning 5he minitauro or the rest of the Italian td line.
Iv recently returned and am at tier 8 looking for any hints and tips
I agree it was never op. I unlocked it and just had a few games in it, before the nerf..😢 I now wonder if I should have picked the French TD line instead. Some of my friends say French TD'S are better.. Tanks for the new review..
French Tds are okish, Foch 155 is a meme tho.
And at least you got there! #gottacatchemall
They need every tank I go for. They nerfed the 183 the DAY before I got it. They nerfed the type 5 heavu 3 weeks after I got it, now the minotauro.
Type 5 hasn't been nerfed? Last time out it was buffed! (Or do you mean like a lonnnnnng time ago?)
@@Petty360 long time ago. It was nerfed, then buffed, then the alpha was nerfed. I THINK that's the right order. I could be wrong
I have Alot of tanks but i just noticed that i have zero Italian tanks. Not even a Premium.
Except Progetto they seem to suc.
Am i wrong?
I personally love this tank even with the nerfs, it’s one of my fav tier x tanks and I play hyper aggressively
I only am missing maybe 5-6 tier x tanks and they’re the shitty ones like the 30b
It’s armor is solid, depression is solid, penetration is solid (I spam heat though), and it’s just a pleasure to play despite its stats on paper.
The intra clip sucks no doubt but angling the armor makes it very hard to deal with
The reload is very fast for an autoloader, can confuse enemies when you’re fully loaded or not cuz the intra clip is so high
I think it needs the aim time equipment though especially with the nerf
I love this thing and am chasing my one mark
Knocking the Aim time down could really help it
Bad mobility he says as it carries pretty much the same if not better armor than a t110e3 while going 30 instead of 24. And a turret. And an autoloader. And 10 degrees of gun depression. What? Plus its more or less invulnerable hull down. How did it not need a nerf? What am i missing here?
Worse Armour than the E3 by quite a margin on the Hull (which is still good btw)
Gun handlings horrific compared to E3 and DPM is also worse.
But E3s been left in the Doldrums of balance compared to everything else for years
Why?
Who knows..
They don't like pasta
Why did they nerf a mediocre tank?
Because tryhard players marking the tank raised the winrates too high and wargaming bases nerfs on win rate
Realistically because most plays who have it are experienced so give it a good win rate, it's the Third least played TD at tier X...
The number of shots that go into the dirt, when hull-down and peeking over a ridge is ridiculous. And if you mention nerfing the AVRE or Taran, you are branded a lunatic and WG won't even acknowledge the issue... they rarely touch PREMIUM tanks, but they will crap all over tech tree tanks.
Sad panda 🐼
Yup 🐼
😕 Well there goes my enthusiasm for grinding the tier 8...Imagine the shit storm if they nerfed the E4...
😅 The E4 is one of those TDs that needs it, a lot of people would also be really happy with it!
I been suffering in china lines to get to heavys finally got the is2 yesh aint that great and always still get matches two teirs higher then me wargaming needs to fix the match maker got upteired for three days straight win ratios on my stats is 30 percent as a new player
The slow intraclip already made it pointless as an auto loader, there was a reason no one plays this tank.
Yeh i can see why people don't go for it, it was just supposed to be sustained DPM where Ammoracks and stuns don't affect it (stuns we don't have but they were copypasta'd from PC)
Why nerf? Because spreadsheet says so. Just look at w/r and survivability and you see which tanks will be nerfed or buffed😂. Thats as far as WG does research. After all they do not play their own game😂
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How about nerf the Taran, AVRE, and countless other PTW tanks, na well just nerf the tanks that people spend countless hours grinding instead of the ones where you can be dumb as a doorknob pick up for money and do good in
Sadly we're at that stage where I really don't think the prems will be touched...
I'm halfway through the grid for this!....... don't think I'll bother with it now.....
Keep going! Because you never know, you might enjoy it.
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same in wotb blitz wg have sometings agains shwedish tech tree sure .this is the erason why ı gived up shedish tds and also emil line,not just this ı ıselled back all what ı buyed before this techtree is for me useless total. ı just keeped tier 5-6 smoventes !wg stollen all you game fun nerf terror didnt stopped ! we must think to this point:why wg doing this nerfs ? a healty logic ( everyone who crying aboute a tank power.have the same chance to buy and play to,so why nerfed then ?ı guess behinde all this is marketing tacktics !
Some tanks do deserve Nerfs (like E4/Taran/AVRE) but some really dont
tank was already shit
Didn't think It was crap honestly just ok. Other tanks being overtuned it what hurt this
Petty, don’t you have any influence on wg decisions? You prolly have more in-game knowledge than any wg employee, like dont they ask you for advices?
Not for tank balancing and stuff like that.
And not really much say tbf.
They might bring a change to us and ask us what we think but that's unlikely to change much of anything.
At the end of the day I'm a hobbyist YT creator with 8k subs, they're a Billion dollar company.