The 13 Weskers are part of a group called Real Umbrella. Formed when Master Wesker sent himself back in time to recruit his past selves, their plan is to create the X-virus and unlock the real Raccoon City.
RE Lore: Dead bodies can't become zombies, only living beings. Capcom making a game: So anyway, we can put a cemetery here, lots of zombies coming from the ground, it'll be so cool, and the pacing will be swoosh and all.
I remember when I got to that part in RE3, I thought to myself, how the hell the T-virus get in the coffins. 😆 ...Or the graves in Code Veronica even. 😮
But that was never cannon. Irons himself in 2 says about the Mayors DEAD daughter that she'd "Peurtify and turn into a zombie within the hour." Dead bodies were always able to turn into zombies. The reason your characters don't get infected when you're bit is because the story cannon assumes the characters got a perfect run essentially. I'm starting to think the stories not really as bad as people say, and instead just heavily misunderstood, a lot like Silent hill.
@@aliciafraser1835 well, recently Dead people come back, but long gone don't. So my point still remains, and I'm not complaining, Capcom just wants to make a mechanic tight game, and lore is the least of their worries. You can also find some director's discussion about CV, and they say that the people in the graveyard were buried alive, so ehhhh, not ideal since I don't remember the game directly mention that, only imply all kinds of torture, but it's already something. ...The RE3 Graveyard still is a long reach tho
"But ACTUALLY, he meant to get stabbed so it would trigger the virus he had been taking for a while" "Yes." "But ACTUALLY, he was a super human raised from birth in a secret project-" "Yes." "-and there are actually 13 Weskers." "WHAT?" That is the correct reaction to have lol
@@mongooseunleashed RE0 said those games are canon despite the baffling geographic inconsistencies needed for them to be. It's the same way Rebecca was able to take an elevator from the training facility (deep within the Arkley Mountains) all the way horizontally back to Birkin's lab in the middle of Raccoon City.
@@mongooseunleashed RE0 has my least favorite story in the entire series. I know it's a weird thing to say but you are right. Despite being a prequel, nothing RE0 does actually contributes to the first game. It just complicates an easy backstory: Instead of some nameless scientist causing the initial outbreak by dropping a test tube, it turns out to be a crazy story involving leeches reanimating the corpse of one of Umbrella's founders in some insane revenge plot. What a waste. Personally I think when the movie studios reboot the RE films, they should start with BRAVO team's gradual fall in the Spencer Mansion with Rebecca Chambers as the main character. It's a simple story but it gives the writers to explore characters who never really got the chance to shine.
@@wdcain1 the only plot point from RE0 that matters is the Progenitor Virus, since I believe that was created from the Progenitor Plant Chris and Sheva discover in RE5. That flower pretty much became the basis for the T-Virus and the different Plagas in RE4 and 5, iirc.
RE6's plot probably would've been better if Chris's motivation was to have Leon fuck his sister Claire.... That sounds random but it's some underground RE Leon Chris meme, here's a good video for all the lore you need: th-cam.com/video/wsUEbELWsEw/w-d-xo.html
11:50 THE THIRTEEN WESKERS OF DARKNESS & THE SEVEN S.T.A.R.S OF LIGHT SHALL CLASH ON THE HALLOWED SCORCHED EARTH OF RACCOON CITY TO FORGE THE T-BLADE. IN ORDER TO UNLOCK THE *TRUE* UMBRELLA HEARTS (seven S.T.A.R.S. : Chris, Jill, Claire, Leon, Barry, Rebecca, Ada)
Wouldn't mind seeing a Death Stranding type of game with HUNK as the only playable character. Basically doing odd jobs for Umbrella, pick up and go here type of shit. You have a team of mooks with at all times and 99% of the time these people will die and be replaced by other mooks because the mission will almost always go FUBAR and you end up having to survive on your own against Tyrant level monstrosities. As a little curveball, the game will randomly have a mission go perfectly fine with no casualties and the entire time you're wondering why everything around you is still alive and then in the next mission everything starts dying again.
@@god47398 idk there's fun to be had wiht the cutscenes of kingdom hearts, both ironic and unironic. and the EU stuff for star wars is still fun atleast
So what I'm getting from Wesker, is that he's basically the Joker -- Supposed to be a one-off villain that gets killed, but then becomes super popular and iconic?
Wesker is best villain in the series and one of Capcom in general’s best baddies right up there with Bison, Dr Wily and Vergil. He was killed off too soon, he should had a background role in every game Thanos-style.
@@li-limandragon9287 Wesker is one of the best villains in gaming imo. He's got everything, the ridiculous masterminding everything, incredibly good looks, he masquerades as a good guy at first with a betrayal reveal, he gambles on super powers and wins, fakes his own death (iirc,) and then he gets his "full power max" moment at the end of 5 where he shows his true_power.exe. Shits hype. I love him.
Most franchises never outgrow the shadow of their initial successes Woolie is super right, Star Wars is awful because to this day they just keep trying to ape the original trilogy. Silent Hill muddied out and Pyramid is everywhere because he's a marque character except he's fucking not supposed to be and wasn't designed as such. Most franchises like RE are vast as oceans but shallow as a fucking piss puddle from a narrative standpoint.
Makes me wish it was possible to have some sort of middle ground between books and games or something. At least books are usually more narratively consistent cause the lack of moving pictures forces the only redeeming point.
To be fair to Silent Hill only the American made stuff treats Pyramid Head like Mickey Mouse all the following Team Silent games didn’t bring him back. Yeah he appears in the light gun and Paichinko games, but Konami are hacks we all know this.
The entire Metal Gear saga has been fixated on elaborating and recreating Big Boss and Outer Heaven for the entire 3D era, ironically the only villain from before the series had production values. Although with MG in particular, eventually the subtle repetition loops to becoming amazing once it becomes some so distorted that its barely recognizable; Raiden vs Armstrong being the mirror abstraction of Solid Snake vs Big Boss.
19:42 Woolie reads japanese videogame stories like he reads opponents in fighting games: he assumes they will *always do the same thing* when a specific context arises, *until they prove otherwise* by doing something different in that same context, and *only THEN does he start analyzing each situation independently.* this is *not the optimal strategy for comprehending japanese videogame lore,* because *it will almost always seem completely random* from our perspective as gamers who don’t know what kind of *human-rights-abuse buffoonery happened behind-the-scenes at the japanese game development company.*
@@matthewlugo2417 That white puddle Carla becomes after she mutates. It expands and covers the entire ship. Honestly, its the scariest part of the game.
So what I got from this is that there will be a Final Fantasy x Castlevania crossover, in which Gilgamesh shows up the Infinite Corridor and drags Alucard into the lifestream.
22:40 A rare moment where Woolie stopped Pat from spreading his BS misinformation, crushing Crazy Talk in a single moment. You can see Pat's face go all sad when Woolie doesn't allow him to talk about the FF 7 and 10 are set in the same universe BS.
@Syd Klem I mean, that's how FF14 explains it. They're not RIGHT next to each other, but Omega chased Midgardsormr across the cosmos for like 8 fuckzillion years until they ended up on Hydaelyn.
@Syd Klem This is what happens when a game's plot is wrapped up all nicely, and then any sequel to a plot has to RAMP things up to Gurren Lagann levels to make it interesting. FF4: The After Years establishes on Ancient Civilization that spread the crystals through the galaxy to recreate all life after they "accidentally" wiped it all out. The Creator/Final Boss of that story supposedly being the Original Cid. Dissidia then talks about Alter Universes, and an afterlife like plane of existence that was created by the Wyrm of Chaos and Order. It being Chaos and Cosmos actually being a red herring, and then truth being that it was both Shinryu and Mog respectively. I dont even know what other games have established in their own canon, but I'm sure it's equally as dumb.
Really after Sephiroth was defeated, the ground should’ve broken and Wakka the time wizard neo-eagle of the occult racist super weapon should emerge from Gaia and bellow *“WHERE ARE DEM AL BHEDS BRUDDA!!!?”*
First Woolie is discussing a father/daughter relationship constantly in Policenauts, now he hears about Claire having to eff her brother ..... I worry about Woolie, sometimes
Remember: Woolie has explicitly said "I wish I had a sister like Laura..." during the Street Fighter 5 playthrough with the guys. There's *SOMETHING* there...
it kinda amazes me how Woolie doesnt know surface level RE stuff. Like I admit i didn't play any till 4 on the gamecube but even I knew what game NEMESIS is from or that Code Veronica was a thing
He really just mostly plays fighting games. Seen the spec ops: The Line play-through. The A.I. buddies actually kind of carried him and they react fairly slow.
It doesn't amaze me at all, because I remember the only reason I know any of this shit is because I like looking up wikis for video game stuff, which isn't something everyone does.
I still think the dumbest plot moment in all of RE was that 4 started by saying that Umbrella was shut down and destroyed not due to Chris or Jill or Leon or Claire or any other main character that vowed revenge. But because their stocks went down.
How is that even dumb lol? They got exposed for being responsible for multiple bio weapon incidents and a city being nuked. Of course their stocks went to shit and the company went under. That's how you defeat an actual company in the first place
No dumbass. The stock crashed BECAUSE the US Government shut it down. Leon says as much in the RE4 intro. And Umbrella got caught specifically because Wesker was able to prove their connection to the T Virus in the Spencer Mansion Incident. You know, the very operation CHRIS and JILL were part of?
8:20 Actually Leon and Chris didn't met the first time in re6. They act like they do, but the official canon stays that Claire introduced them to each other, so I can guess they had at least few talks.
@@venomfuryx3250 Exactly. She's still ex-STARS, even if she was the young newbie medic, she still knows how to handle herself. I don't even think she picked up a gun or defended herself the entire movie, they literally sidelined her smh
Ok, serious talk. I'm aware that RE story lines can get silly and campy with RE6 being the really irredeemably stupid one. But Pat shows complete and utter ignorance on most of the plot points. He outright ignores answers to his questions that he would understand if he actually pay attention and not just skim read a wiki article. He should really drop the red bull.
First half of 6's story is alright. Simmons was a pretty good villian... Then the second half of the game happened with the Ada thirst and silly transformations.
@@li-limandragon9287 BIG disagree on that one. Jake had mad charisma and an actually legitimate place in the story. Him and Sherry are adorable together and his development as a character felt earned. Really it's just a matter of opinion though, if it didn't land for you I can't really change that.
@@ThiefofCrystals Yes him and Sherry are cute but I'll ask you this if Sherry were removed and you had play through entire story with just Jake RE4 Leon-style *would you really enjoy it?* All he does in RE6 is act protective over Sherry, brood, be hot headed and antagonize Leon and Chris, if anything Jake takes away character development because he literally interrupts Leon and Sherry's RE2 reunion due to his own chubby for Sherry which sucks. Cool gameplay tho.
@@li-limandragon9287 Yes, I would absolutely enjoy that, him spouting Jake shit the entire time would be amazing. If you boil Leon's personality down to such basic elements he has _even less_ personality than Jake does throughout the entirety of 4, he's there to save Sherry and make corny jokes, but we love him for how it's all presented. It seems Jake's charisma went entirely over your head and left you with a very different view on the character, which I'm not gonna argue with, we just aren't gonna see eye to eye on this one.
Thief of Crystals Jake doesn’t make corny jokes he makes edgy one liners like everybody in RE6 (even Ada) and they all suck compared to humour in RE4. Sorry dude but you’re too caught up in his twee relationship with Sherry notice what possessive asshole Jake is, it’s not charismatic when Leon a surrogate father to Sherry just wants to reach out to talk to her and Jake literally pushes him away like a douchebag that’s opposite of charisma. Not to mention the bit where he’s about to kill Chris over the fact he killed his dad Wesker even though Wesker abandoned him. You’re in a minority on this one, Jake Muller is a lame edgelord punk. He could’ve been interesting but RE6’s writing is subpar.
this is why i like RE7 so much emily is just a girl used in experiments who wants to be loved and have a family her behaviour could simply be explained by her never having felt any form of affection and thus tries to force it she doesnt want to kill you, she wants you to join her "family" cuz one of her "family members" misses you. i honestly dont think she has evil intentions but simply just doesnt understand how these things should work
@@GuiltyKit They mean Eveline who is the little experiment kid; Mia is the chainsaw-wielder who's the player character's wife and is controlled into doing that because of how Eveline works as a BOW.
Until the dlc and even parts of the main game as a result. A little girl being manipulated and observed by THE CONNECTIONS. Dumber than fucking neo or blue umbrella. Who may or may not have made her/ broke her out from whatever company made her, and umbrella knew about them and their shenanigans and waited over a few years or months. Cant remember that point. But waited forever to make a move and still couldnt stop the virus until their comrade? Secret member? Random who even? Ethan tells them off camera whats going down?
RE5 is great because it takes itself completely seriously, which makes it a campy delight when Irving says "I've got an EXTREME MAKEOVER" and Chris punches a boulder. However, it doesn't work for RE6 because not only is the story a bad story told poorly, but it's just too dour to enjoy.
It taking itself seriously was why I personally enjoyed it Mostly because there's so many forms of media nowadays that's all "ooh look how self-aware I am"
@@Guciom I mean, it does sort of reaffirm Pat's point about Capcom only knowing how to mix and match 3 types of RE villain traits though. This is what? The 10th time the schemer character in an act of desperation goes goo monster?
Ok Pat; CV X is 3 months after RE2, not 6 months before RE4, RE4 is 6 years after RE2. For Woolie, Tony Redgrave was originally going to be the 'son' of Spencer, part of a science experiment to create the perfect human. This got turned into the Wesker children for Resident Evil and the Sons of Sparda for Devil May Cry. Dante was 100% supposed to be an Umbrella baby, not even a joke. Also Pat, I may not have finished the trash fire that was 0 but at least I finished 6 the first time round and then didn't talk the biggest load of shit for 8 years.
Hopefully Woolie tries either the Mercenaries mode or just the demo for RE6. I know Pat's gonna sandbag it as hard as possible and hope nobody ever plays it ever, but there's definitely gameplay with Jake and maybe the others that would be really enjoyable for Woolie to try hands-on. But yeah, the story's a mess.
Mercenaries is where RE6 shines. It's legitimately fantastic. The problem with RE6 is the story along with the abysmal level design and absurd setpieces in the campaign. If you isolate the gameplay and put it in a big map with a bunch of enemies, it's really fun.
@@at0micl0bster Yep, and that's a goddamn shame. If all the Mercenaries stuff was available off the bat in that mode or unlockable just from playing that mode, I'd be happy to recommend RE6 for it.
Pat is crazy talking like mad again. Claire just sent Leon an Email, she didn't mention Chris. It was Steve who said "Hah, maybe your brother will show up lol". And then Leon found Chris thanks to his new connections to the government. Claire had never ever said that Leon will send Chris.
@@swalsh216 Yes, but he's not the same garland, which was the point. He even said there were "Garlands all over the place." Shame on you for making me defend the dumb that is pat, but he didn't really say much wrong there.
I could never EVER take RE story/stories seriously, like since Chris laugh at Wesker's tyrant and 20 seconds later, Wesker get killed by tyrant. If anyone takes this game seriously, should get a boulder punch combo.
What is exactly wrong with that scene? Bad guy gloats about his monster creation, release it on the hero but gets killed by it instead. Classic story set up.
@@Guciom Sure yeah, but what really sell it as not seriously is the fact that Wesker, a character who fooled his team into enter an mansion and dying for data on the creatures training and development for Umbrella. A mastermind to rule the world with tyrants, GETS EASILY OFFENDED by Chris laughing at his plan. He doesn't even barely have a comeback, he pathetically tells Chris to stop it. I get where you are coming from, that is classic writing, but the way the Resident evil team use it... it's hilarious man.
@@Guciom Fair point, then I, will admit my flaw on calling it stupid, voice acting was the reason for calling it stupid... am I in the clear for saying German Suplexing priest is stupid and cool tho?
So I just got into the RE series, and hearing about 13 Weskers is giving me kingdom hearts flashbacks and now I really want to play all these games cuz that shit raw!
Honestly, as someone who is as equal of a fan to RE as Pat is, but will be more honest with you about it, you can stop after RE5 if you're even willing to go that far lol RE1, 2, 3, CVX, 4 are the ideal games, RE0 and RE5 i feel are optional lol
@@Hannya_c I've played 1, 2, 4 and 7 so far (I'm just waiting on 3make), would you suggest the games like code veronica and revelations or are they mostly trash/irrelevant?
@@mugsmcratmin6842 the Rev games are pretty good but sort of irrelevant (at the moment) to the overarching story, and Code veronica has not aged well. ALOT of backtracking and accidentally locking yourself out of a few key items
@@mugsmcratmin6842 Code Veronica is honestly better than Pat describes it, it's just aged a little poorer than the older PS1 games being one of the first PS2 RE games that is originally a Dreamcast port, so it sometimes feels "experimental" with a couple features. But it really does bring Claire and Chris together finally, but also introduces a few "questionable" characters like Steve and Alfred Ashford lol I actually didn't play Revelations 1 since I didn't have a DS when it came out, but from what I've seen in Revelations 2, it continues Claire's story and brings Barry back, but it does involve some of the weird and ridiculous Wesker family crap Pat was talking about. So I think it's optional if you really want to find out, but the Rev games seem to focus more on co-op too.
@@mugsmcratmin6842 Revelations 2 is the only other RE to have one of the other Weskers. It's also really good so I think you should play it. Just make sure to get the good end.
Woolie for the love of God play FF9, JUST FOR Garland and his story arc you will love it on the level of someone who liked ff1 and actually feel kind of bad for him by the end of it
Dude I would pay Capcom billions of yen, just rewrite the whole franchise into being about Chris Redfield trying to get Leon Kennedy to impregnate his sister Claire while also trying to kill Ada. It’d be more interesting than any of the modern titles.
If there's anything connecting FF universes together, it's FF5's Cleft of Dimensions. It's where Gilgamesh, Omega, and Shinryuu were all originally dumped before they started showing up in other games.
I'm a little surprised Woolie's only played RE5 and 50% of RE2 Remake, now would actually be a pretty good time to play the series from the beginning since all the original PS1 games are remade. I know a lot of people want RE1 Remake to be remade AGAIN with the new controls, but I like it as is since it keeps the flavor of the classic games with tank controls and the really esoteric puzzles lol The Raccoon City saga is pretty much playable now with RE3 Remake.
@@MrStath1986 I completely agree, but there are some fans who really want to replay it with the over-the-shoulder camera and current photo-realistic graphics. But I say keep REmake 1 as is with the HD versions to keep the original vision alive alongside the latest remakes to get players to experience and appreciate the best of both worlds.
@@Hannya_c Maybe these "fans" should just accept that not every game has to be a third person shooter and learn to play games that are out of there comfort zone.
@@Guciom I agree, but picky players will be picky, sadly, and will say a game is bad simply because they think a control scheme is "too old" or "wonky", especially if they're spoiled by today's standards :/
1:13 I'm sure if Chris were around, the reticle would already be closed. 2:44 NO! Don't worry about RE5 yet. When its time, she'll get her due, but Chris & Jill should be the main protagonists of RE5r. 5:26 Wesker is an assist (up to) 2x per scenario. 1st w/ bees. 2nd in Mrs. Spencer's crypt. 5:45 Who tf cares? Ashley was supposed to be (teen) Sherry. 7:48 Billy's a Marine, Pat. 12:05 Woolie's reaction! 🤣 13:39 -13:57
Ansem: Our plot is the most nonsense ever conceived. Wesker: Hold my virus. >Hears Thirteen Weskers in the middle of the video *I WAS FUCKING JOKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING.*
7:25 WRONG!!! The e-mail WAS to Leon but at that time Chris resurfaced from hiding and THEN he got the message. As much as I like Pat's lore diving, he tends to make up BS allot!
But Claire tells Leon to tell Chris where she is and to come get her; Pat's point is that there's no indication Claire had actually been in touch with Chris between RE2 and CVX - her going to Umbrella France seems to be partly to find him - and yet her telling Leon to tell Chris what's happened suggests otherwise.
Damn now I want a Nier and resident evil cross over maybe yoko toro could write for the next parasite eve game since They want to bring aya back into existence it might make some sense into The3rdBirthday
To be honest, I find it extremely comforting that the people who swear RE is amazing also think the story is the dumbest worst. Because that franchise's story is the absolute dumbest worst, sometimes so bad that I can't even play the game. RE2 remake was super cool, though, and I'm really looking forward to RE3 remake.
They did. They're called 'The Connections' and are being fought by the BSAA and their newest allies... Blue Umbrella, who are made up of the non-supervillain parts of the old company trying to make up for Wesker & Co.'s crimes.
@@TheProfessor529 Yeah, but do you wanna bet actual money that there still are super villan parts of Umbrella secretly running blue Umbrella. I can already see the plot of RE8 before they even make it and I'm not even a true fan of the franchise; I'm sorry that you've got to put up with this.
Absolutely, those meddling kids and their little girl did better than three crack special opts teams, a dozen trained cops, professional scientists, a million zombies and a snazzy motherfucker in a trench coat. That’s why the canon had to break them up.
The void is what connects all FF universes. Gilgamesh travels through the void. Also, Cloud of Darkness eats FF universes that are devoid of all conflict. It shows up as the final antagonist in FF11 where it was first given form and was handed its first loss. This allowed for the FF3 crew to ultimately kill it. It ate an unknown amount of FF universes up until it's demise in FF3. For all we know, it could have eaten main numbered FF universes after their story concluded.
23:25 Well, they definitely are now in Final Fantasy 4: The After Years. That final section and it's implications about the crystals by the end of that game becomes completely bonkers and existentially horrifying.
@Raizen Jaegar, that all the crystals from from Final Fantasys 1-6 (Even if you don't see them in 2 and 6) were all observational devices from a long dead civilization, and kind of helped develop the civilizations of the Final Fantasy 1-6 worlds like the monoliths from the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey. Like, I love this idea as a concept, but it is baffling to explain. lol
-Crystals in 6 = Magicite -Crystals in 7 = Materia/Mako/Lifestream -Crystals in 8 = Lunatic Pandora -Crystals in 9 = Eidolons, obviously.. Memoria counts as well, connecting the Crystals at the heart of all Planets. -Crystals in 10 = Spheres -Crystals in 12 = Magicite, again -Crystals in 13 = L'Cie, everywhere, really
shockingly. pat's just straight up wrong about the thing he's baffled about. umbrella was monitoring chris on the island and that's how she knew where chris was and emails that to leon to get him to show up. like she goes "they were watching my brother?!"
i think the worst thing for the Zelda thing with "not being able to get out of Ganon's shadow" is when they make a really good story and then it just kind of last second swerves in to "oh right, Ganon". granted the only game i know of that does this is Twilight Princess, the next closest thing i can think of is A Link Between Worlds, but the bad guy revives Ganon so he can fuse with him, and even then he is the reverse world Ganon anyway. some might try to say Skyward Sword shoehorns in "Ganon" at the last minute, but the entire game's plot was leading to him from coming back in true form the whole time.
Everyone talking about Simmons the simp, but what about Veltro? Divine Comedy fanboys who destroyed an entire city because said city used solar energy and somehow that offended these guys. And of course they received help from the guy who wanted to prove to the world that they needed his military organization, and he did that by... helping to destroy the city where his organization HQ was located.
Sheva story is interesting because RE5 is based on all the fucked up testing pharmaceutical companies do in African countries, so it's weirdly enough, the most based in reality game of the series.
And this stupid bullshit is why I absolutely love the shit out of this franchise. I giggle and smile ear to ear when I read or hear "Well actually...."
I'm really confused as to why Woolie is confused about Final Fantasy naming conventions. He knows that there's a Cid in every game, and it's not the same Cid, and plenty of other characters and references and thematical elements. So why would he suddenly assume that 14 is related to 1 and a naming reference is actually indicating an in-universe continuity?
The C-Virus remains the worst part of Resident Evil imo, a virus that can resurrect corpses that have been dead for hundreds of years and despite basically all of their flesh being gone make them strong and smart enough to operate traps.
thats nothing like they said we should be complaining more about how the series makes characters, doesnt kill them off and then completely forgets they exist but then shoves in chris and leon into every other game instead
Gilgamesh isn’t named Greg in FFXIV. He’s just called that name by an idiot and Gilgamesh just goes along with it. His official name is still Gilgamesh.
14:32 To be fair that may have been what Capcom intended but after the outright revulsion to the action-based turn the series had taken in 6, and all the backlash to the game and its characters and story, they probably dropped that thread like a bad habit. So not every dropped thread in RE is a negative against the series. I feel with these remakes in a sense Capcom is going back to what made RE great, and its story compelling by keeping things low brow. Should they continue this run of remakes in the franchise and proceed with Code Veronica next its my hope they actually do A LOT to patch up and rework the story in that game, cause like Pat pointed out, shit's pretty flimsy and filled with holes in the plot.
My problem with Ada is that she’s supposed this Catwoman like figure, but that really doesn’t work in this universe where innocent people get killed if you’re sneaky backstabber. Everyone who isn’t Leon (whose got a chubby for her) is well within their rights to shoot that bitch.
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"...............There are thirteen Weskers"
I'm sorry did Resident Evil turn into Kingdom Hearts????
Haha Wesker’s a nobody
CenturonStar pretty much, yeah
Wesker fighting Chris and Sheva shirtless on top of a volcano with a keyblade in his hand
@@Abdega Chris: You're a nobody!
In re5 Wesker weskers Jill turning her blonde, then Chris has to fight Jill Wesker and unweskers her with the power of partnership.
The 13 Weskers are part of a group called Real Umbrella. Formed when Master Wesker sent himself back in time to recruit his past selves, their plan is to create the X-virus and unlock the real Raccoon City.
they can only be stopped by the seven s.t.a.r.s. of light
(pronounced Key-virus)
@@whiteblacklight9603 sometimes pronounced "Kai-virus"
I Genuinely can't tell if this is bullshit or real
I was going to be offended be this comparasion to the retarded shit going on in kh, but this could be the plot of re9.
RE Lore: Dead bodies can't become zombies, only living beings.
Capcom making a game: So anyway, we can put a cemetery here, lots of zombies coming from the ground, it'll be so cool, and the pacing will be swoosh and all.
Fans: "you can't do that. Dead bodies don't reanimate"
Capcom: "hahaha zombie go uhhhhh"
The ancient native american zombies wielding fire extinguishers in the catacombs...
Man re6 was dumb
I remember when I got to that part in RE3, I thought to myself, how the hell the T-virus get in the coffins. 😆
...Or the graves in Code Veronica even. 😮
But that was never cannon. Irons himself in 2 says about the Mayors DEAD daughter that she'd "Peurtify and turn into a zombie within the hour." Dead bodies were always able to turn into zombies. The reason your characters don't get infected when you're bit is because the story cannon assumes the characters got a perfect run essentially. I'm starting to think the stories not really as bad as people say, and instead just heavily misunderstood, a lot like Silent hill.
@@aliciafraser1835 well, recently Dead people come back, but long gone don't. So my point still remains, and I'm not complaining, Capcom just wants to make a mechanic tight game, and lore is the least of their worries.
You can also find some director's discussion about CV, and they say that the people in the graveyard were buried alive, so ehhhh, not ideal since I don't remember the game directly mention that, only imply all kinds of torture, but it's already something.
...The RE3 Graveyard still is a long reach tho
"But ACTUALLY, he meant to get stabbed so it would trigger the virus he had been taking for a while"
"Yes."
"But ACTUALLY, he was a super human raised from birth in a secret project-"
"Yes."
"-and there are actually 13 Weskers."
"WHAT?"
That is the correct reaction to have lol
"yes"
My favorite RE retcon is how Midwestern town Raccoon City was relocated to the Pacific coast just to canonize the _Gun Survivor_ games.
SSHHH we don't talk about those
@@mongooseunleashed RE0 said those games are canon despite the baffling geographic inconsistencies needed for them to be. It's the same way Rebecca was able to take an elevator from the training facility (deep within the Arkley Mountains) all the way horizontally back to Birkin's lab in the middle of Raccoon City.
@@mongooseunleashed RE0 has my least favorite story in the entire series. I know it's a weird thing to say but you are right. Despite being a prequel, nothing RE0 does actually contributes to the first game. It just complicates an easy backstory: Instead of some nameless scientist causing the initial outbreak by dropping a test tube, it turns out to be a crazy story involving leeches reanimating the corpse of one of Umbrella's founders in some insane revenge plot.
What a waste. Personally I think when the movie studios reboot the RE films, they should start with BRAVO team's gradual fall in the Spencer Mansion with Rebecca Chambers as the main character. It's a simple story but it gives the writers to explore characters who never really got the chance to shine.
@@wdcain1 the only plot point from RE0 that matters is the Progenitor Virus, since I believe that was created from the Progenitor Plant Chris and Sheva discover in RE5. That flower pretty much became the basis for the T-Virus and the different Plagas in RE4 and 5, iirc.
Isn’t RE survivor set on some island like CV.
I love Pat's progression thinking
RE2: Rookies who cant dodge and poor aim
RE3: STARS Member who can dodge and has good aim
RE4: Suplex Priest
RE5: boulder punching soldier boy
RE6: WTF?!
In RE6 Chris and Leon should’ve been Dante and Vergil-ling it up at that point. Capcom still held back.
In RE6 they should have gotten a devil trigger
RE6's plot probably would've been better if Chris's motivation was to have Leon fuck his sister Claire....
That sounds random but it's some underground RE Leon Chris meme, here's a good video for all the lore you need:
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11:50 THE THIRTEEN WESKERS OF DARKNESS & THE SEVEN S.T.A.R.S OF LIGHT SHALL CLASH ON THE HALLOWED SCORCHED EARTH OF RACCOON CITY TO FORGE THE T-BLADE. IN ORDER TO UNLOCK THE *TRUE* UMBRELLA HEARTS
(seven S.T.A.R.S. : Chris, Jill, Claire, Leon, Barry, Rebecca, Ada)
Oh my God, Wesker is just Xehanort
That might as well play Kingdom Hearts knowing this now.
I DID A FLAT-OUT DOUBLE TAKE HEARING THIRTEEN WESKERS.
FUCK YOU.
JUST FUCK YOU.
THAT MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE, FUCK YOU.
Lol if raccoon city didn’t go to shit Leon would’ve definitely had been a STARS member
i want a game where its just HUNK cleaning up the stupid mess left over after every other RE game
Operation Raccoon City.
@@zaneseibert But that's gross.
That's.... no HUNKS job though, or even what he does. He goes in a grabs stuff, he doesn't clean up messes.
Wouldn't mind seeing a Death Stranding type of game with HUNK as the only playable character. Basically doing odd jobs for Umbrella, pick up and go here type of shit. You have a team of mooks with at all times and 99% of the time these people will die and be replaced by other mooks because the mission will almost always go FUBAR and you end up having to survive on your own against Tyrant level monstrosities. As a little curveball, the game will randomly have a mission go perfectly fine with no casualties and the entire time you're wondering why everything around you is still alive and then in the next mission everything starts dying again.
Okay, but all Hunk’s stupid dudes from Operation Racoon City have to stay away.
As soon as he said “there’s 13 Weskers” I got Xehanort flash backs....
Jill got Kered!
He fucks up people names and puts a W wherever.
I'M ALREADY HALF-WESKER
>13 Weskers.
"Raccoon City... is light!?"
Yeeeeeeeeeees!
Master Weskanort
We must contract the 13 Viruses to unlock Umbrella Kingdom and gain control over the χ-virus
Star Wars, Resident Evil, and Kingdom Hearts: The trifecta of "it's good but it's SOOOOO dumb".
I’d add Metal Gear to that pot, it’s storytelling is as easily badshit insane.
Except none of them have storytelling as ridiculous as kingdom hearts. KH is in a league of its own. That shit makes *_zero_* sense lol
@@Edward-Not-Elric it used to make sense, but then it started to try being grander than it could handle. and that's how we ended up where we are
except resident evil is fun, star wars used to be fun, and kingdom hearts is only fun if you skip every single cutscene in the entire franchise
@@god47398 idk there's fun to be had wiht the cutscenes of kingdom hearts, both ironic and unironic. and the EU stuff for star wars is still fun atleast
So what I'm getting from Wesker, is that he's basically the Joker -- Supposed to be a one-off villain that gets killed, but then becomes super popular and iconic?
Wesker is best villain in the series and one of Capcom in general’s best baddies right up there with Bison, Dr Wily and Vergil.
He was killed off too soon, he should had a background role in every game Thanos-style.
@@li-limandragon9287 Wesker is one of the best villains in gaming imo. He's got everything, the ridiculous masterminding everything, incredibly good looks, he masquerades as a good guy at first with a betrayal reveal, he gambles on super powers and wins, fakes his own death (iirc,) and then he gets his "full power max" moment at the end of 5 where he shows his true_power.exe. Shits hype. I love him.
Sort of. He doesn't appear as much as the joker.😊
I love that when Pat starts talking about Sora and opening hearts, he looks around himself to see if anyone hears the barf he's spewing.
Most franchises never outgrow the shadow of their initial successes Woolie is super right, Star Wars is awful because to this day they just keep trying to ape the original trilogy. Silent Hill muddied out and Pyramid is everywhere because he's a marque character except he's fucking not supposed to be and wasn't designed as such. Most franchises like RE are vast as oceans but shallow as a fucking piss puddle from a narrative standpoint.
JoJo does this too with Dio actually.
“An inch deep and a mile wide”
Makes me wish it was possible to have some sort of middle ground between books and games or something.
At least books are usually more narratively consistent cause the lack of moving pictures forces the only redeeming point.
To be fair to Silent Hill only the American made stuff treats Pyramid Head like Mickey Mouse all the following Team Silent games didn’t bring him back. Yeah he appears in the light gun and Paichinko games, but Konami are hacks we all know this.
The entire Metal Gear saga has been fixated on elaborating and recreating Big Boss and Outer Heaven for the entire 3D era, ironically the only villain from before the series had production values. Although with MG in particular, eventually the subtle repetition loops to becoming amazing once it becomes some so distorted that its barely recognizable; Raiden vs Armstrong being the mirror abstraction of Solid Snake vs Big Boss.
19:42 Woolie reads japanese videogame stories like he reads opponents in fighting games: he assumes they will *always do the same thing* when a specific context arises, *until they prove otherwise* by doing something different in that same context, and *only THEN does he start analyzing each situation independently.*
this is *not the optimal strategy for comprehending japanese videogame lore,* because *it will almost always seem completely random* from our perspective as gamers who don’t know what kind of *human-rights-abuse buffoonery happened behind-the-scenes at the japanese game development company.*
Utterly surprised Pat didn't even mention the Cum Ship in RE6
Rikuo86 or just how stupidly powerful Alexia is
Cum ship? What u mean?
I am sickened but curious
@@matthewlugo2417 That white puddle Carla becomes after she mutates. It expands and covers the entire ship.
Honestly, its the scariest part of the game.
RE x Death Stranding crossover
So what I got from this is that there will be a Final Fantasy x Castlevania crossover, in which Gilgamesh shows up the Infinite Corridor and drags Alucard into the lifestream.
22:40 A rare moment where Woolie stopped Pat from spreading his BS misinformation, crushing Crazy Talk in a single moment.
You can see Pat's face go all sad when Woolie doesn't allow him to talk about the FF 7 and 10 are set in the same universe BS.
@Syd Klem I mean, that's how FF14 explains it.
They're not RIGHT next to each other, but Omega chased Midgardsormr across the cosmos for like 8 fuckzillion years until they ended up on Hydaelyn.
@Syd Klem This is what happens when a game's plot is wrapped up all nicely, and then any sequel to a plot has to RAMP things up to Gurren Lagann levels to make it interesting.
FF4: The After Years establishes on Ancient Civilization that spread the crystals through the galaxy to recreate all life after they "accidentally" wiped it all out. The Creator/Final Boss of that story supposedly being the Original Cid.
Dissidia then talks about Alter Universes, and an afterlife like plane of existence that was created by the Wyrm of Chaos and Order. It being Chaos and Cosmos actually being a red herring, and then truth being that it was both Shinryu and Mog respectively.
I dont even know what other games have established in their own canon, but I'm sure it's equally as dumb.
Really after Sephiroth was defeated, the ground should’ve broken and Wakka the time wizard neo-eagle of the occult racist super weapon should emerge from Gaia and bellow *“WHERE ARE DEM AL BHEDS BRUDDA!!!?”*
I like how less than a month after this FFVII remake canonized it
But they actually are, it's in the Ultimania lol
First Woolie is discussing a father/daughter relationship constantly in Policenauts, now he hears about Claire having to eff her brother
..... I worry about Woolie, sometimes
to be fair, pat cut out on his side
Hey, I heard exactly the same thing Woolie did so I don't blame him...play that back at 6:07: "So Claire is like "I can't f--- my brother""
I totally heard the same thing Woolie did.
Look even Capcom make the sibling relationship between Chris and Claire awkward
m.th-cam.com/video/J6sf4hdYv-k/w-d-xo.html
Remember: Woolie has explicitly said "I wish I had a sister like Laura..." during the Street Fighter 5 playthrough with the guys. There's *SOMETHING* there...
it kinda amazes me how Woolie doesnt know surface level RE stuff. Like I admit i didn't play any till 4 on the gamecube but even I knew what game NEMESIS is from or that Code Veronica was a thing
I'm in the same boat, honestly. Never played 3 or CV, and only knew about Nemesis from mentions of it around... uh... *cough*re6*cough*
He really just mostly plays fighting games. Seen the spec ops: The Line play-through. The A.I. buddies actually kind of carried him and they react fairly slow.
I think his initial exposure to RE was Nemesis, Wesker and Chris in Marvel vs Capcom, because fighting games.
Woolie, a.k.a. the biggest Dreamcast fanboy in Canada, doesn't know anything about Code Veronica.
It doesn't amaze me at all, because I remember the only reason I know any of this shit is because I like looking up wikis for video game stuff, which isn't something everyone does.
The Wesker thing killed me
I still think the dumbest plot moment in all of RE was that 4 started by saying that Umbrella was shut down and destroyed not due to Chris or Jill or Leon or Claire or any other main character that vowed revenge. But because their stocks went down.
Look you can be toughest strongest monster killing badass, but compared to the stock market, you’re just a loser wearing utility pouches.
Realistic, though
How is that even dumb lol? They got exposed for being responsible for multiple bio weapon incidents and a city being nuked.
Of course their stocks went to shit and the company went under. That's how you defeat an actual company in the first place
No dumbass. The stock crashed BECAUSE the US Government shut it down. Leon says as much in the RE4 intro. And Umbrella got caught specifically because Wesker was able to prove their connection to the T Virus in the Spencer Mansion Incident. You know, the very operation CHRIS and JILL were part of?
Well, it was more the president issuing a suspension of business order that killed them. The stock price dropping was really just the coup de grace.
8:20 Actually Leon and Chris didn't met the first time in re6. They act like they do, but the official canon stays that Claire introduced them to each other, so I can guess they had at least few talks.
Rebecca survived. She's in Resident Evil Vendetta. That movie takes place after 6 but before 7.
They wasted her potential as a character in that movie though :(
@@Hannya_c and the heroes do more damage than the villians
@@dogsoldier123 While doing gun katas and running in circles while holding down the trigger. Damnation did better justice as a RE movie lol
@@Hannya_c compared to what she did in RE0 they turned her into a damsel in distress.
@@venomfuryx3250 Exactly. She's still ex-STARS, even if she was the young newbie medic, she still knows how to handle herself. I don't even think she picked up a gun or defended herself the entire movie, they literally sidelined her smh
Ok, serious talk. I'm aware that RE story lines can get silly and campy with RE6 being the really irredeemably stupid one. But Pat shows complete and utter ignorance on most of the plot points. He outright ignores answers to his questions that he would understand if he actually pay attention and not just skim read a wiki article.
He should really drop the red bull.
First half of 6's story is alright. Simmons was a pretty good villian... Then the second half of the game happened with the Ada thirst and silly transformations.
@@PredatoryQQmber "bioweapons are not a thing in the real world"
If you want Chris and Jill on a side story with a bunch of interesting characters just play the Project X Zone games
Ew
The ultimate crossover!!!!!
We're never getting a third:(
Sean Thompson
To be honest I never enjoyed the Project X Zone games compared MVC, the characters dialogue gets super annoying.
Pat was exactly correct about his predictions for Resident Evil 4: Remake lol
I'mma be real with you chief, Jake Dante-ing into the distance as the next big hero of Resident Evil was the RE7 I wanted to see.
Yeah but Dante is fun, Jake is as likeable as DMC Donte.
@@li-limandragon9287 BIG disagree on that one. Jake had mad charisma and an actually legitimate place in the story. Him and Sherry are adorable together and his development as a character felt earned. Really it's just a matter of opinion though, if it didn't land for you I can't really change that.
@@ThiefofCrystals Yes him and Sherry are cute but I'll ask you this if Sherry were removed and you had play through entire story with just Jake RE4 Leon-style *would you really enjoy it?* All he does in RE6 is act protective over Sherry, brood, be hot headed and antagonize Leon and Chris, if anything Jake takes away character development because he literally interrupts Leon and Sherry's RE2 reunion due to his own chubby for Sherry which sucks. Cool gameplay tho.
@@li-limandragon9287 Yes, I would absolutely enjoy that, him spouting Jake shit the entire time would be amazing. If you boil Leon's personality down to such basic elements he has _even less_ personality than Jake does throughout the entirety of 4, he's there to save Sherry and make corny jokes, but we love him for how it's all presented. It seems Jake's charisma went entirely over your head and left you with a very different view on the character, which I'm not gonna argue with, we just aren't gonna see eye to eye on this one.
Thief of Crystals
Jake doesn’t make corny jokes he makes edgy one liners like everybody in RE6 (even Ada) and they all suck compared to humour in RE4. Sorry dude but you’re too caught up in his twee relationship with Sherry notice what possessive asshole Jake is, it’s not charismatic when Leon a surrogate father to Sherry just wants to reach out to talk to her and Jake literally pushes him away like a douchebag that’s opposite of charisma. Not to mention the bit where he’s about to kill Chris over the fact he killed his dad Wesker even though Wesker abandoned him.
You’re in a minority on this one, Jake Muller is a lame edgelord punk. He could’ve been interesting but RE6’s writing is subpar.
Man, this podcast is great when Pat is participating
Pat's gotta make Woolie play through CVX at some point. I want it real bad.
this is why i like RE7 so much
emily is just a girl used in experiments who wants to be loved and have a family
her behaviour could simply be explained by her never having felt any form of affection and thus tries to force it
she doesnt want to kill you, she wants you to join her "family" cuz one of her "family members" misses you.
i honestly dont think she has evil intentions but simply just doesnt understand how these things should work
Wait. The "family member" who tries to chainsaw you to death?
@@GuiltyKit They mean Eveline who is the little experiment kid; Mia is the chainsaw-wielder who's the player character's wife and is controlled into doing that because of how Eveline works as a BOW.
@@MrStath1986 owh yeah. eveline, not emily xD always mix those 2 names up
Until the dlc and even parts of the main game as a result. A little girl being manipulated and observed by THE CONNECTIONS. Dumber than fucking neo or blue umbrella. Who may or may not have made her/ broke her out from whatever company made her, and umbrella knew about them and their shenanigans and waited over a few years or months. Cant remember that point. But waited forever to make a move and still couldnt stop the virus until their comrade? Secret member? Random who even? Ethan tells them off camera whats going down?
RE6's plot would be great if it wasn't taking itself so seriously
RE5 is great because it takes itself completely seriously, which makes it a campy delight when Irving says "I've got an EXTREME MAKEOVER" and Chris punches a boulder. However, it doesn't work for RE6 because not only is the story a bad story told poorly, but it's just too dour to enjoy.
would've been great -piers and hellena +sheva and claire
It taking itself seriously was why I personally enjoyed it
Mostly because there's so many forms of media nowadays that's all "ooh look how self-aware I am"
I don't mean self aware. More like what 4 was
@@0rriAndroid That is why I never liked Re4 as an re game because it didnt take its self seriously enough compaired to the rest of the franchise.
I love these discussions on stories.
Friendship with Resident Evil ended
Now Silent Hill 2 and 3 are my friend
SH1 is great.
@@torperator1555 Oh its a very good game. Little jank in spots due to the camera, but its great.
Does the brother in RE7 go from being a sly trickster to being a big goop monster when he gets cornered? I know RE7 had some goop monsters.
Oh yep, when Chris corners him in that DLC, dude just yucks it up and turns into a goo monster
@@ReneeGalena Lucas at that point has completely lost his mind so his behavior is rather understandable..
@@Guciom I mean, it does sort of reaffirm Pat's point about Capcom only knowing how to mix and match 3 types of RE villain traits though. This is what? The 10th time the schemer character in an act of desperation goes goo monster?
Putting aside Lucas adhering to the stereotype, RE7 has probably the best villains in the entire series.
Super Pochaco it needed more jack and marge terrorizing you
Ok Pat; CV X is 3 months after RE2, not 6 months before RE4, RE4 is 6 years after RE2. For Woolie, Tony Redgrave was originally going to be the 'son' of Spencer, part of a science experiment to create the perfect human. This got turned into the Wesker children for Resident Evil and the Sons of Sparda for Devil May Cry. Dante was 100% supposed to be an Umbrella baby, not even a joke. Also Pat, I may not have finished the trash fire that was 0 but at least I finished 6 the first time round and then didn't talk the biggest load of shit for 8 years.
Hopefully Woolie tries either the Mercenaries mode or just the demo for RE6. I know Pat's gonna sandbag it as hard as possible and hope nobody ever plays it ever, but there's definitely gameplay with Jake and maybe the others that would be really enjoyable for Woolie to try hands-on.
But yeah, the story's a mess.
Mercenaries is where RE6 shines. It's legitimately fantastic. The problem with RE6 is the story along with the abysmal level design and absurd setpieces in the campaign. If you isolate the gameplay and put it in a big map with a bunch of enemies, it's really fun.
Super Pochaco the problem is that you have to beat all the campaigns to unlock all the mercs stuff
@@at0micl0bster Yep, and that's a goddamn shame. If all the Mercenaries stuff was available off the bat in that mode or unlockable just from playing that mode, I'd be happy to recommend RE6 for it.
Pat is crazy talking like mad again.
Claire just sent Leon an Email, she didn't mention Chris. It was Steve who said "Hah, maybe your brother will show up lol". And then Leon found Chris thanks to his new connections to the government. Claire had never ever said that Leon will send Chris.
I literally watched it happen during his stream man
That's still pretty bad.
Garland is in FFIX tho
He’s technically in 14 too.
Pat gets a lil over arrogant about what he knows (or in this case doesn't know). Poor Woolie is getting thrown all over the place.
@@swalsh216 Yes, but he's not the same garland, which was the point. He even said there were "Garlands all over the place." Shame on you for making me defend the dumb that is pat, but he didn't really say much wrong there.
Final fantasy is an anthology series tho... unless directly stated
I could never EVER take RE story/stories seriously, like since Chris laugh at Wesker's tyrant and 20 seconds later, Wesker get killed by tyrant. If anyone takes this game seriously, should get a boulder punch combo.
What is exactly wrong with that scene? Bad guy gloats about his monster creation, release it on the hero but gets killed by it instead. Classic story set up.
@@Guciom like the bad guys from house of the dead
@@Guciom Sure yeah, but what really sell it as not seriously is the fact that Wesker, a character who fooled his team into enter an mansion and dying for data on the creatures training and development for Umbrella. A mastermind to rule the world with tyrants, GETS EASILY OFFENDED by Chris laughing at his plan. He doesn't even barely have a comeback, he pathetically tells Chris to stop it.
I get where you are coming from, that is classic writing, but the way the Resident evil team use it... it's hilarious man.
@@AceRevero That's more do to bad voice acting.
@@Guciom Fair point, then I, will admit my flaw on calling it stupid, voice acting was the reason for calling it stupid... am I in the clear for saying German Suplexing priest is stupid and cool tho?
Wait I never realized that in CVX, how Claire just asks Leon to call Chris despite looking for him.
You see Terry a female Redfield is able to imprint herself on a desired mate and make him find other members of her pride.
So I just got into the RE series, and hearing about 13 Weskers is giving me kingdom hearts flashbacks and now I really want to play all these games cuz that shit raw!
Honestly, as someone who is as equal of a fan to RE as Pat is, but will be more honest with you about it, you can stop after RE5 if you're even willing to go that far lol RE1, 2, 3, CVX, 4 are the ideal games, RE0 and RE5 i feel are optional lol
@@Hannya_c I've played 1, 2, 4 and 7 so far (I'm just waiting on 3make), would you suggest the games like code veronica and revelations or are they mostly trash/irrelevant?
@@mugsmcratmin6842 the Rev games are pretty good but sort of irrelevant (at the moment) to the overarching story, and Code veronica has not aged well. ALOT of backtracking and accidentally locking yourself out of a few key items
@@mugsmcratmin6842 Code Veronica is honestly better than Pat describes it, it's just aged a little poorer than the older PS1 games being one of the first PS2 RE games that is originally a Dreamcast port, so it sometimes feels "experimental" with a couple features. But it really does bring Claire and Chris together finally, but also introduces a few "questionable" characters like Steve and Alfred Ashford lol
I actually didn't play Revelations 1 since I didn't have a DS when it came out, but from what I've seen in Revelations 2, it continues Claire's story and brings Barry back, but it does involve some of the weird and ridiculous Wesker family crap Pat was talking about. So I think it's optional if you really want to find out, but the Rev games seem to focus more on co-op too.
@@mugsmcratmin6842 Revelations 2 is the only other RE to have one of the other Weskers. It's also really good so I think you should play it. Just make sure to get the good end.
Woolie for the love of God play FF9, JUST FOR Garland and his story arc you will love it on the level of someone who liked ff1 and actually feel kind of bad for him by the end of it
It's just a story about preserving the Redfield lineage.
Dude I would pay Capcom billions of yen, just rewrite the whole franchise into being about Chris Redfield trying to get Leon Kennedy to impregnate his sister Claire while also trying to kill Ada.
It’d be more interesting than any of the modern titles.
@@li-limandragon9287 Same. Chrisposting is honestly my favourite meme of all time.
Martin Papos
Chrisposting retroactively makes RE6 and Vendetta interesting and makes RE2make even better if you apply you own headcanon to it.
If there's anything connecting FF universes together, it's FF5's Cleft of Dimensions. It's where Gilgamesh, Omega, and Shinryuu were all originally dumped before they started showing up in other games.
I'm a little surprised Woolie's only played RE5 and 50% of RE2 Remake, now would actually be a pretty good time to play the series from the beginning since all the original PS1 games are remade. I know a lot of people want RE1 Remake to be remade AGAIN with the new controls, but I like it as is since it keeps the flavor of the classic games with tank controls and the really esoteric puzzles lol The Raccoon City saga is pretty much playable now with RE3 Remake.
The REmake remaster adds contemporary controls to the game and they work great as is; there's no need to remake it again.
@@MrStath1986 I completely agree, but there are some fans who really want to replay it with the over-the-shoulder camera and current photo-realistic graphics. But I say keep REmake 1 as is with the HD versions to keep the original vision alive alongside the latest remakes to get players to experience and appreciate the best of both worlds.
@@Hannya_c Maybe these "fans" should just accept that not every game has to be a third person shooter and learn to play games that are out of there comfort zone.
@@Guciom I agree, but picky players will be picky, sadly, and will say a game is bad simply because they think a control scheme is "too old" or "wonky", especially if they're spoiled by today's standards :/
@@Guciom You say this and yet, the 2002 Remake won't disappear.
I really enjoyed the segue into Woolie completely failing to comprehend Final Fantasy
the re pattern is "leon does something cool, chris/jill copies him in the next game but is more boring"
the stupidity will never stop
this time we get jill two-handing a 5 ton railgun to kill nemesis
If it looks like Jill's MvsCap 2 super but with a proton cannon instead of the rocket launcher, I'd like to see that.
I hope Jill traps Nemesis between a hydraulic press and she’s like “Whose the sandwich now bitch!!!l”
1:13 I'm sure if Chris were around, the reticle would already be closed.
2:44 NO! Don't worry about RE5 yet. When its time, she'll get her due, but Chris & Jill should be the main protagonists of RE5r.
5:26 Wesker is an assist (up to) 2x per scenario. 1st w/ bees. 2nd in Mrs. Spencer's crypt.
5:45 Who tf cares? Ashley was supposed to be (teen) Sherry.
7:48 Billy's a Marine, Pat.
12:05 Woolie's reaction! 🤣
13:39 -13:57
Ansem: Our plot is the most nonsense ever conceived.
Wesker: Hold my virus.
>Hears Thirteen Weskers in the middle of the video
*I WAS FUCKING JOKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING.*
7:25 WRONG!!! The e-mail WAS to Leon but at that time Chris resurfaced from hiding and THEN he got the message.
As much as I like Pat's lore diving, he tends to make up BS allot!
He doesn’t make up BS, Crazy Talk just changes reality to make him wrong. Come on, learn your SBFP/CSB lore.
@@GoldLight73 There's only enough times you can tell that joke when you gotta face the fact that Pat has the memory capacity of a ginger hamster.
@@Guciom No. *Gate Successfully Kept*
But Claire tells Leon to tell Chris where she is and to come get her; Pat's point is that there's no indication Claire had actually been in touch with Chris between RE2 and CVX - her going to Umbrella France seems to be partly to find him - and yet her telling Leon to tell Chris what's happened suggests otherwise.
Damn now I want a Nier and resident evil cross over maybe yoko toro could write for the next parasite eve game since They want to bring aya back into existence it might make some sense into The3rdBirthday
I consider the Re Japanise stage plays to be canon.
In this episode we get clear samples of both Pat AND Woolie saying "I can't f--- my brother"
"There are actually 13 Weskers."
Literally Kingdom Hearts.
"Resident Evil's stupid......This shit is dumb..."
That legit sent my sides to the moon. X'D Because it's true. And I still love it.
HEY. The movie with the guy who could control the lickers was amazing. Fight me.
Wait, so there’s 13 superpowered dudes in black thrench coats?
*13th Struggle intensifies*
All the kids died only Albert and Alexa survived and got killed later.
“Ah Resident Evil...
Or some say Biohazard...
Do you hear our complaints?”
To be honest, I find it extremely comforting that the people who swear RE is amazing also think the story is the dumbest worst. Because that franchise's story is the absolute dumbest worst, sometimes so bad that I can't even play the game.
RE2 remake was super cool, though, and I'm really looking forward to RE3 remake.
RE2make is awesome because it really dials back the stupid, I mean it’s still corny in places but there isn’t convoluted mess like later games.
@@li-limandragon9287 Yeah, I agree. Even the voice acting takes itself seriously, for once.
13:24 RE 4 is not 6 months after CVX...its actually 6 years. Leon says it in the intro of the game. C'mon Pat you know that.
Can Capcom come up with a new evil bio-terrorism company name that isn't Umbrella?
They did. They're called 'The Connections' and are being fought by the BSAA and their newest allies... Blue Umbrella, who are made up of the non-supervillain parts of the old company trying to make up for Wesker & Co.'s crimes.
@@TheProfessor529 Yeah, but do you wanna bet actual money that there still are super villan parts of Umbrella secretly running blue Umbrella. I can already see the plot of RE8 before they even make it and I'm not even a true fan of the franchise; I'm sorry that you've got to put up with this.
Ah yes. The new bioterror corporation: Parasitic And Retroviral Augmentation Selected On Lethality or PARASOL for short.
@@zeronikku3549 | Honestly, that's not a bad one.
Dante is basically a perfect tyrant...
Yank my Tyrant Trigger
RE canon says that a rookie cop and a college girl defeated billion dollar bioterrorism
Absolutely, those meddling kids and their little girl did better than three crack special opts teams, a dozen trained cops, professional scientists, a million zombies and a snazzy motherfucker in a trench coat.
That’s why the canon had to break them up.
The void is what connects all FF universes. Gilgamesh travels through the void. Also, Cloud of Darkness eats FF universes that are devoid of all conflict. It shows up as the final antagonist in FF11 where it was first given form and was handed its first loss. This allowed for the FF3 crew to ultimately kill it. It ate an unknown amount of FF universes up until it's demise in FF3. For all we know, it could have eaten main numbered FF universes after their story concluded.
One can only hope it ate 13's universe after "lighting returns"
@@ReneeGalena Unfortunately, I think FF15 takes place in same universe. Remember when it was FF13 Verses?
I had a friend who stopped talking to me because I casually said RE's story was stupid.
Obviously you were too generous
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Well, they definitely are now in Final Fantasy 4: The After Years. That final section and it's implications about the crystals by the end of that game becomes completely bonkers and existentially horrifying.
@Raizen Jaegar, that all the crystals from from Final Fantasys 1-6 (Even if you don't see them in 2 and 6) were all observational devices from a long dead civilization, and kind of helped develop the civilizations of the Final Fantasy 1-6 worlds like the monoliths from the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey.
Like, I love this idea as a concept, but it is baffling to explain. lol
-Crystals in 6 = Magicite
-Crystals in 7 = Materia/Mako/Lifestream
-Crystals in 8 = Lunatic Pandora
-Crystals in 9 = Eidolons, obviously.. Memoria counts as well, connecting the Crystals at the heart of all Planets.
-Crystals in 10 = Spheres
-Crystals in 12 = Magicite, again
-Crystals in 13 = L'Cie, everywhere, really
THANK YOU WOOLIE! I thought i was the only one who noticed RE 5 is a JOJO reference.
I would’ve loved RE5 more if Chris was like to Wesker “Your next line is was this all about of your plan Chris?”
I'm not shocked that Pat forgot about Umbrella in RE7, and how they managed to split into Blue Umbrella and Red Umbrella.
shockingly. pat's just straight up wrong about the thing he's baffled about. umbrella was monitoring chris on the island and that's how she knew where chris was and emails that to leon to get him to show up. like she goes "they were watching my brother?!"
i think the worst thing for the Zelda thing with "not being able to get out of Ganon's shadow" is when they make a really good story and then it just kind of last second swerves in to "oh right, Ganon". granted the only game i know of that does this is Twilight Princess, the next closest thing i can think of is A Link Between Worlds, but the bad guy revives Ganon so he can fuse with him, and even then he is the reverse world Ganon anyway. some might try to say Skyward Sword shoehorns in "Ganon" at the last minute, but the entire game's plot was leading to him from coming back in true form the whole time.
Everyone talking about Simmons the simp, but what about Veltro? Divine Comedy fanboys who destroyed an entire city because said city used solar energy and somehow that offended these guys.
And of course they received help from the guy who wanted to prove to the world that they needed his military organization, and he did that by... helping to destroy the city where his organization HQ was located.
7:13 they fixed that line on the lightgun game
Sheva story is interesting because RE5 is based on all the fucked up testing pharmaceutical companies do in African countries, so it's weirdly enough, the most based in reality game of the series.
"It's not 'Garlan'. It's BELGER!"
-Villain of Final Fantasy 14, probably.
First 3 and 7 were great
Everything else as far as story goes is balls
I love 7. Platinumed it. But holy fuck the moment you so much as glance at the story you notice so much that is wrong or contradictory.
Resident Evil is like the Kingdom Hearts of video game stories.
Yes pat, judges in 12 are the same ones in tactics advanced, and tactics advanced 2, as is ivalice
And this stupid bullshit is why I absolutely love the shit out of this franchise. I giggle and smile ear to ear when I read or hear "Well actually...."
I'm really confused as to why Woolie is confused about Final Fantasy naming conventions. He knows that there's a Cid in every game, and it's not the same Cid, and plenty of other characters and references and thematical elements. So why would he suddenly assume that 14 is related to 1 and a naming reference is actually indicating an in-universe continuity?
+Goblin Rat Only because I've been told about commonalities like Cid for years, but have never been told about Garland showing up elsewhere in name.
Pat's issue is he firmly believes that if something happens off screen it cant ever happen despite years sometimes in between events.
Sheva deserves her own game! And fuck it so does Carlos he was also p cool.
The C-Virus remains the worst part of Resident Evil imo, a virus that can resurrect corpses that have been dead for hundreds of years and despite basically all of their flesh being gone make them strong and smart enough to operate traps.
considering how much fanart there is of chris and leon thats pretty funny
Tactics Advance, Tactics A2 and FFXII all take place in the same Ivalice. Characters from 12 straight up show up in Tactics A2 lol
Wait, is the 13 Weskers including Wesker’s sister?
Yes.
When Pat said there's 13 Weskers, he meant that there are 13 people with the last name of Wesker who survived some biological tests on them.
@@TheKeybladeofdarknes No, only Albert and Alexa survived.
thats nothing
like they said we should be complaining more about how the series makes characters, doesnt kill them off and then completely forgets they exist
but then shoves in chris and leon into every other game instead
nobody talks about how leon was secretely a clone
Can we talk about how DUODECIM is the SADDEST Final Fantasy game that exists at the moment???
Of course he forgets about based Parker Luciani.
Gilgamesh isn’t named Greg in FFXIV. He’s just called that name by an idiot and Gilgamesh just goes along with it. His official name is still Gilgamesh.
So still no explanation on how Item Boxes work in-universe?
Could you imagine if there was some weird postal system involving these boxes in pretty much every home around the world in universe?
@@deslacooda Even in the Zombie Apocalypse, the Post Office still works
They work on a bio-curse.
@@Abdega Hey, the Phone Company in Redgrave kept it going.
Strands.
9:45
You should play Kingdom Hearts
Edit: hahahahahahahahahahahahah 13 weskers lololol
14:32 To be fair that may have been what Capcom intended but after the outright revulsion to the action-based turn the series had taken in 6, and all the backlash to the game and its characters and story, they probably dropped that thread like a bad habit. So not every dropped thread in RE is a negative against the series. I feel with these remakes in a sense Capcom is going back to what made RE great, and its story compelling by keeping things low brow. Should they continue this run of remakes in the franchise and proceed with Code Veronica next its my hope they actually do A LOT to patch up and rework the story in that game, cause like Pat pointed out, shit's pretty flimsy and filled with holes in the plot.
11:42
Here is the part you came here for.
I want my Billy back!
He mentions the character roster for 2,4 and 6 and neglects to mention Ada.
I guess... I feel she is best used in small doses.
My problem with Ada is that she’s supposed this Catwoman like figure, but that really doesn’t work in this universe where innocent people get killed if you’re sneaky backstabber.
Everyone who isn’t Leon (whose got a chubby for her) is well within their rights to shoot that bitch.
@@li-limandragon9287 Even Leon by that point should have been done with Ada's shit after the shit she pulled in RE4.
jinxfire
The RE2make was smart, as Leon turns against Ada the moment he smells thottery.
2:22 and then comes RE6 and that move set
I thought Wesker was Kars on the Volcano, he's in fact 36 Kars on Mars