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Great video, Max! Is the menu bar item with temperature & fan speed TG Pro? What about the one to the right of it that shows CPU and GPU usage (as % and in bar chart format)?? Thanks!
@Max Tech I have a question. If the MacBook Air is running so hot what damage will it cause to hardware and what is the problem with a laptop or computer to run hotter
Max Tech or wait for a firmware update? Didn’t this happen to the 15” a couple years ago? It does suck that there is a poor cooling approach toward the CPU
you should also undervolt, probably. It's either gonna save battery and lower temps or increase performance, and at any rate the longer lifespan is worth it
It's also a serious Intel flaw. My i5 8500U in my Thinkpad T480 is a noisy and warm piece of crap even at idle. Compared to my 6500U in my Dell XPS 13 (which has a much more compact body) it basically never got warm or loud. Intel is just putting out crap for hardware
@@pangolin83 When comparing the dual core vs quad core of course. But even the older quad core i7 processors didn't get as toasty. It comes back around to intel really trying to push out higher clock speeds on almost the same hardware. My older dual core in my 2014 MBA could arguably be less efficient than these new 10nm parts, yet it was still quiet and cool (comparing 2014 i5 to 2020 i3)
I have a macbook air 2017 version. Paid 2k for it. 500 ssd, I7, Turbo Boost, 8g memory.... and even with all those additions made at that super enticing checkout page.... it still runs hot as hell when I do just one semi-intensive thing at a time. This is so annoying.
Chrome is so energy inefficient it’s unreal. Only Windows people praise Chrome because of how shite Explorer and Edge are. Mac owners just use Safari because it’s actually good. Let alone TouchID.
I've been using TurboBoostSwitcher since I bought my 13" MBP in October. I knew right away that the Turbo Boost was killing the power, causing it to run hot, etc. As soon as I turned it off, it made a night and day difference in regards to the CPU. The difference in battery life is astronomical as well.
I just got the MB air i5, 512gb ssd, and 8gb of ram. I use chrome for everything from watching TH-cam to using Microsoft office for classes. Literally with multiple chrome tabs open while watching a 4K video on chrome, the bottom of the laptop just gets “warm”. It’s totally normal as most laptops do this for these specs. My microsoft surface laptop 3 did the same exact thing. Y’all gotta stop believing everything on TH-cam. If you’re not looking to use this for video editing, then it’s literally perfect. The pro is meant for all that editing/development stuff. That’s why it’s running hot. Benchmark tests run the computer to its maximum limits which is not what what most basic users do so quit the criticism.
Thank you Daniel! I’m waiting for mine to come this week. I do think Apple would actually address the potential issue with updates as time goes on as it is. It’s quite a simple software fix if a third party cooler app can resolve it completely. Any laptop even around 1k that’s super thin easily gets in range if not at 100c. Dells gaming laptops all end up within range so I agree, this is kind of blown out of proportion not only that but when you consider how thin this laptop is.... It also seems unreasonable that Apple “forgot” to add a copper pipe opposed to engineering it as it is for a reason. In either case, there is also a reason MacBook Pros exist and Apple has every right to send you up the product like for better performance. Most of these people are saying well how come this new corolla doesn’t drive like a corvette?? It’s brand new??? As for me, I fully intend to use this for regular work and do some gaming on this. Pending actual testing but, my full blown gaming laptop needs throttle stop to lower the frequencies and power consumption because it turbos it’s way up to 100c. . .crazy right!? It has 3 heat pipes on an Intel 9th gen i5. What I can say is AMD didn’t quite get there performance wise just check out the Surface laptops with AMD...absolute garbage. Their 4000 chips will set them right as Intel is still stuck with a larger die. If AMD had their 3rd gen mobile processors up to snuff we’d have something to blame for here but I’ll take the situation for what it is. Good performance for light MacBook Air type work or 2019 MacBook Air performance with significantly improve graphics with no turbo active and great thermals for a thin and light.
I have mine for a Week now (i7, 16GB RAM) and didnt noticed any of these problems either. Video Editing (iMovie) with 1080p clips and Photo Editing in Affinity Photo are no Problem. I can only hear the Fan when i export my Videos...
Hello Max, did you test it with games too? I had the program on my MacBook Pro and Games needed up to 4 times as long to start. And even if you closed a game it took forever to get back into macOS. Would be interesting if you have the same "problem". But while gaming I did not notice any big difference and the Mac stayed at "good" 65-70 degrees.
@@Fgghgrgrhgfnvkmd I honestly think this is why Apple does this. It's trivial to make this a thermally efficient laptop, 9W of quiet and small cooling isn't hard. And Apple engineers/designers aren't stupid. So it must be a cynical plan to keep the lifespan of the Airs low to encourage people to buy new ones.
It would still only be better than the current Air, but not as good as the Pro because the Air still uses a cheaper Y chip instead of the Pro's U chip.
Peter Vaňušanik if you think that way then you maybe wrong...apple alway using diference processors than most of laptop gonna use. So definitely the cpu for mbp 14 should have at least 4 core 15wh (maybe 1035g7) for base, up to 6 to 8 core and eat up 25wh for high end.
a bit unfortunate that that program cannot limit the turbo boost clock speed like throttlestop do. (or maybe it can do, I dont know) just set the maximum turbo boost to 1.5GHz and it will be fine.
Hi, in a previous video you recommended the i3 over the i5 to avoid heat and noise. Using these tricks, especially the boost switcher, would you still recco the i3 or would you go with the i5? Great reviews btw.
I have an Intel chip 2020 Air. I deliberately chose the i3. Why? Because I could not see the advantage of a more powerful CPU if it was just going to be throttling down due to heat. And, even if the more powerful chips were not throttling, the thought of having a chip on board that is in other laptops being cooled by a heat pipe and exhausting hot air through vents ... rather than just cycling hot air around in the hope it is radiated by the aluminum case ... was frankly freaking me out. IMHO, the Air should be intended for portability and light duty, which is what I imagine 80 % of users use a laptop for 80% of the time: mail, TH-cam, movie sites, social media, word processing on say Bean, or the Pages/Numbers suite. Instead of the more gutsy chip, I spent extra money ordering a variant with 16 GB of RAM. I had to wait a week, but it was worth it. Still running Catalina, and none of the bread and butter stuff I use this machine for gets the fan wailing unless I have a zillion tabs up, or have some heavy packets coming in on Chrome. It's a limited machine for people with limited objectives. For something else, I'd spend more dosh and get the MBP.
Hey Max, thanks for your videos, I just bought the 2020 mba and I care a lot about its thermal problems. Is there any way to add sth to connect the fan and heatsink?
Just FYI for anyone in the market, I bought the least expensive late 2019 model MCB Pro 16 inch in its base configuration (i7 chip) specifically bc MaxTech and others were educating us on fan noise from higher i9 chipset and faster graphics card models (search fan noise in forums before buying...eye-popping problem, even with non-intense “daily driver” tasks!). Well, 3 months in, never hear the fan! I can have Safari & Chrome both open, both running 12 tabs and simultaneous TH-cam. Ideal, no fan. I’m wicked happy that I bought the base model and didn’t upgrade, plus it saved me a few hundred smackaroulians. Thanks, MaxTech 🍎
A Battery saver mode/silent mode enabled by standard or a power mode to enable baked into the system would be great, also on iPads to preserve power or keep the device cool
Great video as always my man! I've watched tons of your videos and learned so much. One question I haven't been able to figure out from all the videos I've seen of yours on this topic is this... I currently have a mid 2015 macbook pro that is 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 with 16 GB of Ram & a 1TB hard drive... One of the main reasons I originally wanted to upgrade to the 16 inch Macbook pro was because I wanted something faster, quieter, & that wouldn't make as much fan noise when I'm video editing and especially recording zooms. My mic always picks up that fan noise & it ruins the audio quality of my recordings. I know you've said turning off turbo boost can prevent or reduce the fan noise from the 16 inch MBP, but my question is with the turbo boost switched off on the 16 inch MBP would it even be as fast as my current 2015 fully loaded MBP with turbo boost switched on? Or would it be slower than my 2015 mac because that would have turbo boost on whereas the 2019 16inch MBP would have it off. Which would be faster for things like video editing, recording live zoom calls using my external 4k video cameras, and other computer intensive tasks? A mid 2015 macbook pro with the stats I mentioned above with turbo boost switched on, or the 16 in MBP with 2.3GHz 8-core 9th-generation Intel Core i9 processor with 32 GB of Ram that I was considering buying, with turbo boost turned off? And how much of a difference in speed do you think it would be in comparison? My goal was to have a faster and quieter computer that I could connect one day to an external monitor, but from everything I seem to be hearing from everyone online, if you don't have that turbo boost switched off on those 16 in MBP, you're gonna be hearing a lot of fan noise when connected to an external monitor which is a real bummer because I wanted to reap the benefits of all the speed I can get when I'm paying $4,300 for a new MBP, but I am not a fan of a loud computer constantly hissing in the background.
Intel's Turbo Boost is an absolutely shit feature. Completely consumes any and all thermal budget in any laptop... Great for performance, but those longer temperatures hugely affect battery life.
@@WinterCharmVT Turbo boost is doing exactly what it's supposed to do, kick into higher speed to handle the workload. If Apple shipped their laptops with this disabled, users will complain the laptop is too slow.
@@WinterCharmVT turbo- boost is an excellent feature, most people using the machine are doing tasks that don't require continuous CPU load, turbo-boost gets you the snappiness of a much more powerful machine without the cost and weight. I'd rather Apple released CPU updates more frequently, even into existing thermally constrained designs - changing the design to improve cooling would have had trade-off's.
Thank you so much really... I played four of your videos at the same time on FF on each corner of my 15" MBP 2015 that remained silent... Before the Turbo Boost Switcher, only 1 video on TH-cam where making my fan go crazy!!!
Marcel Hricko hard to disagree ! If you want / need a more “extensions featured” browser than Safari, go for Firefox quantum or dev : almost as fast as chrome, and more versatile extensions. I’m wondering if the cool guys at Brave have already tweaked their Chromium code to behave in a less cpu hog (to quote Steve Jobs), would be nice to suggest this to the team.
Been using Chrome for everything except youtube as it shows previews when I mouse over the thumbnail but doesn't do this in Safari. There should be an app that enables Apple TV and Apple News on MacOS before Mojave since I can't upgrade to Mojave or Catalina without a patcher.
My question is if getting the i3 version would cause just as much, or actually LESS overheating. All youtube videos are recommending to get the i5 version, but they are also having overheating issues. I’m really curious to know if the i3 would overheat less, but no one talks about the i3. Could someone enlighten me?
thank you for all the awesome info! great to know! I love my 2020 MacBook Air so far! I was worried about running logic and some dj programs but so far so great!
Got my set 2 days ago (i5/quad core) and I've been running chrome for web browsing/watching 4k TH-cam videos everything seems cool and fans are not ramming up also.
Thank you for your advice, but the thing is that Apple needs to step up the thermals, as Intel does need to work on its processors and catch up to AMD. I really, really wonder how an AMD Mac would be, their latest mobile chip destroys Intel's one
The CPUs in the MBA are much better than anything AMD has on offer for this power/thermal budget. AMD does fantastic with at least 40W to work with, not so well with only 10W.
Right Wing Safety Squad True. The new 15W APU (till 8 core - 16 threads) have only been announced and looks like they are a little bit late for obvious reasons. When they will be launched we will judge them. In the 9-12W territory AMD ha stil nothing and I don’t think they are interested at the moment. They are still trying to enter in the laptop market properly.
Thanks for the video! Just a note on Turbo Boost. When using apps like Logic Pro that use all of the cores at the same time in a random/round robin way (each audio track gets sent to a core/thread randomly) turbo boost slows down performance as the extra power/clock speed used by one core can limit the ability of another core to process its respective track in the same time and stops playback. So this app is great for all macs in those particular cases.
I watched this, turned Turbo Boost off, and suddenly my computer runs my Pro Tools sessions perfectly. Wow. Just ordered a new M1 cause i thought my mac could not handle it anymore but it seems like it might not be needed after all
Hey @@alanterry9993! Using an app to disable intel's turbo boost will let you run more tracks and with more stability in LogicX. But it depends on your workflow.
Personally, I use Safari just because it integrates into my Apple ecosystem better than Chome. However, I think it is unacceptable that we should modify our usage habits to counter Apples poor engineering. I could understand not doing video rendering or something like that, but really...the browser? Just sad Apple...sad
Hi Max Tech, could you inform me what tool u've used to monitor the temperature as shown on your video? I've purchased istatmenu and no option for that. Thanks!
The macbook air uses the Y series of the i core processors which intel recommends that it doesnt even need any cooler coz it naturally runs low on temperature, but even though apple added a single fan just for tying up lose ends. None the less, it seems like the processor actually needs some cooling. In my opinion though, intel must do a better job at marketing their products instead blaming apple which did a great job with this laptop.
hey bro I got a question, what software do you use to show your cpu fans speed and processor temperature and the other one too, the one to have the cpu and gpu usage thanks I hope you'll answer
Apple, would it be such a big problem to design a better cooling? I mean, the fan is there, it is just the matter of adding a simple heatpipe! I think paying for the quadcore version doesńt make any sense since it´s throttled like this?
giorgi elbaqidze IMO, CPU with lower specs but good cooling is better option than CPU with better specs on paper (more cores / threads, higher clocks) but terrible cooling
Depends on your work-flow, if its rendering video then maybe its not worth it, but for tasks that take smaller chunks of time, it'll be worth getting the quad.
Imagine purchasing a brand new Macbook Air and immediately neutering it. This is a critical flaw in the Macbook Airs design. Gonna wait for the next Pro.
Honestly this was never the machine for you if you need the Pro - these two are completely different classes of machine, have been since the Air came out!
Max Tech since the i3 is less powerful, does it not get as hot as the i5? Or does the CPU power not make a difference in heat. I bought the i5 but will return it if it is the reason why it runs so hot. Obviously it’s going to be hot, but if the i3 is better some way. Thoughts?
Very useful tips! I am surprised there isn't written much on this issue, yet. It renews the love for my 2017 Macbook 12 - so I'll try to survive until the first ARM Macbook will be released :)
Thanks for the great video!! :) Could you please suggest if 2020 i5 version of air is good enough for running Photoshop and Lightroom for some intensive photo editing ?
Nice tips thank you. How about adding some thermal paste / pads between heatsink and bottom plate? (Directly where the CPU sits )Would this be a nice solution?
I'd love to get some feedback on what I do. I have thin freezer packs that people freeze and put in coolers, say in between layers of drink cans. I have two of them and when the Macbook Pro 2017 gets hot, I simply set it on top of one of the freezer packs on my desk. Within 5-7 minutes the entire Macbook is cold. I have two of them and I just rotate them. The added bonus is that the freezer pack, even when thawed, continues to conduct heat. By the time I stick this thing back in the freezer, it's HOT. Is there any reason I shouldn't be doing this? I've done it every day for two years now with no issues.
This will be a big Business opportunity someone needs to make a small heatsink replacement. the fan is right next door 😉 already so i think it will be easy !!! Free idea here .!! 🤪
By the way, even if you solve heat issue under 200$ and 4 hours of labor, there is a still software throttling as if CPU is hot (watch video with ice pack) so i see only one cost efficient solution, MacBook Pro
Let's see, Apple spent *$5 billion dollars(!)* on their new corporate headquarters, which includes plenty of cooling, but they can't even be bothered to cool their own products. wtf
Mamo Are you blind? They did this one purpose so they could get more people to buy the MacBook Pro, this is a marketing strategy and a good one at best. They don’t have to put as many features in the new MacBook Pro now, they can just say 2 things; Magic Keyboard and Better Cooling.
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Thanks for your tips so far. Can you try putting thermal pads on the heatsink, so the heatsink will have a contact with the backplate?
Great video, Max! Is the menu bar item with temperature & fan speed TG Pro? What about the one to the right of it that shows CPU and GPU usage (as % and in bar chart format)??
Thanks!
@Max Tech I have a question. If the MacBook Air is running so hot what damage will it cause to hardware and what is the problem with a laptop or computer to run hotter
Is ‘20 MBA good for python?
Max Tech or wait for a firmware update? Didn’t this happen to the 15” a couple years ago? It does suck that there is a poor cooling approach toward the CPU
I know Apple loves going wireless. But I never knew that one day we will have a wireless heatsink.
It's called air conditioning...
Well done sir
@@houssamalucad753 It's called apple cheaping out on heatpipes
VMiXEZ Apple will hire you tomorrow lol
Apple felt that, bro
Bro you made a 8 minutes video about turning off turbo boost and did’t even bother to leave a download link.
Lmao right?
exactly...
He talks too much, forgot the link where to download, hahaha
you should also undervolt, probably. It's either gonna save battery and lower temps or increase performance, and at any rate the longer lifespan is worth it
Kbolter NORRIS how can you undervolt a MacBook?
The Macbook Air has no air to cool down.
air heatsinks
LOL
coz it float on air :p
More like it blows a lot of hot air... constantly
ROFL
me before the video: I wonder how to stop my MacBook from overheating
me after the video:
I wonder how to stop my MacBook from overheating
Ikr same for me
Turbo boost helps your system
What is the temperature program he is using??
Thank you, just saved me 8 minutes
same
When you have to tune turbo boost clocks down on MacOS, you know Apple screwed us again..
why apple why???
It's also a serious Intel flaw. My i5 8500U in my Thinkpad T480 is a noisy and warm piece of crap even at idle. Compared to my 6500U in my Dell XPS 13 (which has a much more compact body) it basically never got warm or loud. Intel is just putting out crap for hardware
@@classicrockonly To be fair the 8500U is twice as powerful, but at idle that is too warm even then
@@pangolin83 When comparing the dual core vs quad core of course. But even the older quad core i7 processors didn't get as toasty. It comes back around to intel really trying to push out higher clock speeds on almost the same hardware. My older dual core in my 2014 MBA could arguably be less efficient than these new 10nm parts, yet it was still quiet and cool (comparing 2014 i5 to 2020 i3)
@@PhilfreezeCH And you don't have to worry about death by unfixable CPU vulnerabilities
I am one of the biggest Apple fan boys but $1000 and they couldn’t put in a damn heat pipe? 100c on TH-cam is unacceptable.
I guess they will improve the turbo boost curve after few weeks. Just like the 2018 macbook pro
Stupid apple fan boys finally catching on now that apple take the piss? Wow
I think they want to keep the slim form factor (not make it thicker) so you end up making a very thin laptop with ... crap cooling.
The noise might not be acceptable, but who care what the die temperature is.
@@edcooper2396 Is that smoke I can see?
Thank you for making these videos no one else does this and these are so helpful
Imagine spending 1k on a laptop and then not even being able to use Google Chrome.
I have a macbook air 2017 version. Paid 2k for it. 500 ssd, I7, Turbo Boost, 8g memory.... and even with all those additions made at that super enticing checkout page.... it still runs hot as hell when I do just one semi-intensive thing at a time. This is so annoying.
Jorrit Ohm and hungry for data.
Chrome is so energy inefficient it’s unreal. Only Windows people praise Chrome because of how shite Explorer and Edge are. Mac owners just use Safari because it’s actually good. Let alone TouchID.
Spazza42 : ever heard about Firefox & Lockwise ?
:-)
Manuel Munoz both 🗑
This is what happens when the fan doesn't have any contact with the actual heatsink. Lmao
I've been using TurboBoostSwitcher since I bought my 13" MBP in October. I knew right away that the Turbo Boost was killing the power, causing it to run hot, etc. As soon as I turned it off, it made a night and day difference in regards to the CPU. The difference in battery life is astronomical as well.
i dont understand, do you recomend using the software or no ?
@@Angel-qx9mj yes he recommends it. he said he turned off turbo boost, not the app assuming that’s the part that had you confused.
I just got the MB air i5, 512gb ssd, and 8gb of ram. I use chrome for everything from watching TH-cam to using Microsoft office for classes. Literally with multiple chrome tabs open while watching a 4K video on chrome, the bottom of the laptop just gets “warm”. It’s totally normal as most laptops do this for these specs. My microsoft surface laptop 3 did the same exact thing. Y’all gotta stop believing everything on TH-cam. If you’re not looking to use this for video editing, then it’s literally perfect. The pro is meant for all that editing/development stuff. That’s why it’s running hot. Benchmark tests run the computer to its maximum limits which is not what what most basic users do so quit the criticism.
Daniel K Its so helpful! Thanks!
Thank you Daniel! I’m waiting for mine to come this week. I do think Apple would actually address the potential issue with updates as time goes on as it is. It’s quite a simple software fix if a third party cooler app can resolve it completely.
Any laptop even around 1k that’s super thin easily gets in range if not at 100c. Dells gaming laptops all end up within range so I agree, this is kind of blown out of proportion not only that but when you consider how thin this laptop is....
It also seems unreasonable that Apple “forgot” to add a copper pipe opposed to engineering it as it is for a reason. In either case, there is also a reason MacBook Pros exist and Apple has every right to send you up the product like for better performance.
Most of these people are saying well how come this new corolla doesn’t drive like a corvette?? It’s brand new???
As for me, I fully intend to use this for regular work and do some gaming on this. Pending actual testing but, my full blown gaming laptop needs throttle stop to lower the frequencies and power consumption because it turbos it’s way up to 100c. . .crazy right!? It has 3 heat pipes on an Intel 9th gen i5.
What I can say is AMD didn’t quite get there performance wise just check out the Surface laptops with AMD...absolute garbage. Their 4000 chips will set them right as Intel is still stuck with a larger die. If AMD had their 3rd gen mobile processors up to snuff we’d have something to blame for here but I’ll take the situation for what it is. Good performance for light MacBook Air type work or 2019 MacBook Air performance with significantly improve graphics with no turbo active and great thermals for a thin and light.
True, but you still can’t deny that the current cooling philosophy in MacBooks is trash.
I have mine for a Week now (i7, 16GB RAM) and didnt noticed any of these problems either.
Video Editing (iMovie) with 1080p clips and Photo Editing in Affinity Photo are no Problem.
I can only hear the Fan when i export my Videos...
Daniel K Any update? Is it still doing fine?
These issues need to be raised. Thank you for this video. Some people might even decide to not by the computer at all, like I did.
Or maybe Apple shouldve made it work properly in the first place
If Apple would have done it work properly the MacBook Air with quad core would be better than the pro 16"
Hello Max,
did you test it with games too? I had the program on my MacBook Pro and Games needed up to 4 times as long to start. And even if you closed a game it took forever to get back into macOS. Would be interesting if you have the same "problem". But while gaming I did not notice any big difference and the Mac stayed at "good" 65-70 degrees.
Thank you so much for posting this. I was going to buy this model because the specs looked very good. Your opinion is very valuable to us
I am assuming you're in a room with Air Conditioning. Imagine how hot the laptop will get in upcoming summer season.
Good point.
Exactly. I use my Dell when its 35°C in summer, this macbook air would melt
It’ll die like countless 2018 airs did
@@Fgghgrgrhgfnvkmd I honestly think this is why Apple does this. It's trivial to make this a thermally efficient laptop, 9W of quiet and small cooling isn't hard. And Apple engineers/designers aren't stupid. So it must be a cynical plan to keep the lifespan of the Airs low to encourage people to buy new ones.
It'll got to 100°C as it always does under heavy load - doesn't matter what the ambient is.
"MacBook Hot Air"
Great video. Thank you!. I needed this advice :)
Great info thanks for sharing this important issue
take a shot every single time he says "100 degrees Celsius".
Bob Chan DId tHaT anD FEeL GrEaT StIL
@@MrFacePeck OMG One Hundred Degree Celsius
Yup
Celsius or sell-shoes, funny😅
Apple didn’t upgraded the cooling system cuz the quadcore would be better or same as the 13 inch pro.
Peter Vaňušanik I’m super happy with my 13 inch base model tho.
It would still only be better than the current Air, but not as good as the Pro because the Air still uses a cheaper Y chip instead of the Pro's U chip.
If that is the case then why did they put out a regular Imac that beats the Imac pro?
Peter Vaňušanik if you think that way then you maybe wrong...apple alway using diference processors than most of laptop gonna use. So definitely the cpu for mbp 14 should have at least 4 core 15wh (maybe 1035g7) for base, up to 6 to 8 core and eat up 25wh for high end.
ILostMyAccuracy only the Mac Pro can beat the 18 core iMac Pro
Very useful tip, thanks!
THANK YOU so much for this amazing life hack! It actually works.
a bit unfortunate that that program cannot limit the turbo boost clock speed like throttlestop do. (or maybe it can do, I dont know) just set the maximum turbo boost to 1.5GHz and it will be fine.
Hi, in a previous video you recommended the i3 over the i5 to avoid heat and noise. Using these tricks, especially the boost switcher, would you still recco the i3 or would you go with the i5? Great reviews btw.
I have an Intel chip 2020 Air. I deliberately chose the i3. Why? Because I could not see the advantage of a more powerful CPU if it was just going to be throttling down due to heat. And, even if the more powerful chips were not throttling, the thought of having a chip on board that is in other laptops being cooled by a heat pipe and exhausting hot air through vents ... rather than just cycling hot air around in the hope it is radiated by the aluminum case ... was frankly freaking me out.
IMHO, the Air should be intended for portability and light duty, which is what I imagine 80 % of users use a laptop for 80% of the time: mail, TH-cam, movie sites, social media, word processing on say Bean, or the Pages/Numbers suite. Instead of the more gutsy chip, I spent extra money ordering a variant with 16 GB of RAM. I had to wait a week, but it was worth it.
Still running Catalina, and none of the bread and butter stuff I use this machine for gets the fan wailing unless I have a zillion tabs up, or have some heavy packets coming in on Chrome. It's a limited machine for people with limited objectives. For something else, I'd spend more dosh and get the MBP.
This helped a lot thank you so much!
Hey Max, thanks for your videos, I just bought the 2020 mba and I care a lot about its thermal problems. Is there any way to add sth to connect the fan and heatsink?
Just FYI for anyone in the market, I bought the least expensive late 2019 model MCB Pro 16 inch in its base configuration (i7 chip) specifically bc MaxTech and others were educating us on fan noise from higher i9 chipset and faster graphics card models (search fan noise in forums before buying...eye-popping problem, even with non-intense “daily driver” tasks!). Well, 3 months in, never hear the fan! I can have Safari & Chrome both open, both running 12 tabs and simultaneous TH-cam. Ideal, no fan. I’m wicked happy that I bought the base model and didn’t upgrade, plus it saved me a few hundred smackaroulians. Thanks, MaxTech 🍎
The cheapest 16” MB Pro starts at $2399.
@@Steve.Nguyen Got mine at Best Buy for $2175. :-)). No student discount. Apple pretty much marks things up and immediately discounts them these days.
What are you using to keep track of temps and fan speeds?
Wow thanks heaps, liked and subbed ;)
it still works! thank you so so so so so much!
A Battery saver mode/silent mode enabled by standard or a power mode to enable baked into the system would be great, also on iPads to preserve power or keep the device cool
Question: what app is that on your task bar that shows CPU usage and temp?
I think that is TG Pro (www.tunabellysoftware.com/tgpro/)
iStat Menus also works for this
Great video as always my man! I've watched tons of your videos and learned so much. One question I haven't been able to figure out from all the videos I've seen of yours on this topic is this... I currently have a mid 2015 macbook pro that is 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 with 16 GB of Ram & a 1TB hard drive...
One of the main reasons I originally wanted to upgrade to the 16 inch Macbook pro was because I wanted something faster, quieter, & that wouldn't make as much fan noise when I'm video editing and especially recording zooms. My mic always picks up that fan noise & it ruins the audio quality of my recordings.
I know you've said turning off turbo boost can prevent or reduce the fan noise from the 16 inch MBP, but my question is with the turbo boost switched off on the 16 inch MBP would it even be as fast as my current 2015 fully loaded MBP with turbo boost switched on? Or would it be slower than my 2015 mac because that would have turbo boost on whereas the 2019 16inch MBP would have it off.
Which would be faster for things like video editing, recording live zoom calls using my external 4k video cameras, and other computer intensive tasks? A mid 2015 macbook pro with the stats I mentioned above with turbo boost switched on, or the 16 in MBP with 2.3GHz 8-core 9th-generation Intel Core i9 processor with 32 GB of Ram that I was considering buying, with turbo boost turned off?
And how much of a difference in speed do you think it would be in comparison?
My goal was to have a faster and quieter computer that I could connect one day to an external monitor, but from everything I seem to be hearing from everyone online, if you don't have that turbo boost switched off on those 16 in MBP, you're gonna be hearing a lot of fan noise when connected to an external monitor which is a real bummer because I wanted to reap the benefits of all the speed I can get when I'm paying $4,300 for a new MBP, but I am not a fan of a loud computer constantly hissing in the background.
Amazing video!!!!! Love it
Would be great to see how the MBA would perform if it had the same cooler the 13“ MBP has.
His previous video about water cooling the Air shows the performance it could have had with proper cooling.
my guess, better.
yes, it is a kind of business strategy
This has to be the last Intel MacBook Air. There’s no way they can continue with this design for these CPUs in the long run, it’s getting ridiculous.
Intel's Turbo Boost is an absolutely shit feature. Completely consumes any and all thermal budget in any laptop... Great for performance, but those longer temperatures hugely affect battery life.
ARM based processors are rumored to come in 2021 so let’s hope for the best.
@@WinterCharmVT Turbo boost is doing exactly what it's supposed to do, kick into higher speed to handle the workload. If Apple shipped their laptops with this disabled, users will complain the laptop is too slow.
@@WinterCharmVT Somehow other manufacturers are able to manufacture laptops that do not melt on idle.
@@WinterCharmVT turbo- boost is an excellent feature, most people using the machine are doing tasks that don't require continuous CPU load, turbo-boost gets you the snappiness of a much more powerful machine without the cost and weight. I'd rather Apple released CPU updates more frequently, even into existing thermally constrained designs - changing the design to improve cooling would have had trade-off's.
Thanks! it do helps
Thank you so much really... I played four of your videos at the same time on FF on each corner of my 15" MBP 2015 that remained silent... Before the Turbo Boost Switcher, only 1 video on TH-cam where making my fan go crazy!!!
Is the laptop that you're using the dual core i3, or the quad core i5/ i7?
Almost cooked my thigh by forgetting how hot my mac was from a zoom meeting and moved to my bed to do homework.
Very helpful! Thank you!
Hi Max, may I know what is the app that you use to monitor your mac’s temperature and ram speed?
I like this “DON’T USE CHROME!”
Marcel Hricko hard to disagree !
If you want / need a more “extensions featured” browser than Safari, go for Firefox quantum or dev : almost as fast as chrome, and more versatile extensions.
I’m wondering if the cool guys at Brave have already tweaked their Chromium code to behave in a less cpu hog (to quote Steve Jobs), would be nice to suggest this to the team.
Manuel Munoz Good Morning, I used to watch CBS tv using HOLA to hide my IP address on Chrome. It’s not working anymore, or it’s paid service now.
Been using Chrome for everything except youtube as it shows previews when I mouse over the thumbnail but doesn't do this in Safari. There should be an app that enables Apple TV and Apple News on MacOS before Mojave since I can't upgrade to Mojave or Catalina without a patcher.
I have school though and all my homework I have to do on chrome
And.... If I want to use stadia?
Hey, what app are you using to get temps and RPM in your menu bar?
someone?
SmcFanControl
Mac Fan Control, you can download it on the same website as turbo boost switcher
Was wondering the same thing did you find the app? If so whats it called??
thanks a lot man! it helps me very much :) thank you
Your every single macbook air 2020 video are very very informative for me thanks you so much bro
I bet next year we are getting ARM or a new design with an heatpipe.
"This is ridiculous" -> Could not agree more Max.
yeah, we are getting arm...
lmao predicted the future "with a heatpipe"
@@TitouanYT yup we did indeed
and also an heat pipe with the M1 chip
Good video! What program are you using for temp and fanspeed?
What software are you using for monitoring temp, GPU, CPU like in this video ?
I love you man thank you very much you helped me 🙏🙏
My question is if getting the i3 version would cause just as much, or actually LESS overheating. All youtube videos are recommending to get the i5 version, but they are also having overheating issues. I’m really curious to know if the i3 would overheat less, but no one talks about the i3. Could someone enlighten me?
All the reviews are like that but not actually representing the daily use case and battery life real life results.
I'm curious too...HELP PLZ
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i7 produces less heat, but more powerful than i5, maybe this video could help.
I5s are probably better binned chips so they would probably need less voltage to sustain higher clock speeds so it could actually have better temps
I was literally only on tumblr downloading images and the fan got super loud and hot and put it away WTF
thank you for all the awesome info! great to know! I love my 2020 MacBook Air so far! I was worried about running logic and some dj programs but so far so great!
How is it running Logic Pro X so far? Did you get the i5 with 16gigs of Ram? How noisy is it?
Nice hint, thank you Max 👍
Got my set 2 days ago (i5/quad core) and I've been running chrome for web browsing/watching 4k TH-cam videos everything seems cool and fans are not ramming up also.
Mine has overheat problem and I doubt this might be a qc issue because some people have problems like me but others are like you.
does it still work
They trap us in the ecosystem. I get it. Okay.
But we deserve not so crappy upgrades.
Finally I know what’s making my Air so hot. Thank you!!!!
great video
This is ridiculous that you need to turn off a feature to use the laptop =(
a $1000 laptop, to be exact
I use the 2019 macbook pro 13 inch and most of the time it gets really how even doing simple task on safari only. Idk how else to fix that anymore 😩
agree
Wow, this is amazing
Thank you thank you thank you soooo much! :D This helped with both of our MacBook Pro's mid 2014 and MacBook Air 2017. Much appreciated!
Thank you for your advice, but the thing is that Apple needs to step up the thermals, as Intel does need to work on its processors and catch up to AMD. I really, really wonder how an AMD Mac would be, their latest mobile chip destroys Intel's one
The CPUs in the MBA are much better than anything AMD has on offer for this power/thermal budget. AMD does fantastic with at least 40W to work with, not so well with only 10W.
Right Wing Safety Squad True. The new 15W APU (till 8 core - 16 threads) have only been announced and looks like they are a little bit late for obvious reasons. When they will be launched we will judge them. In the 9-12W territory AMD ha stil nothing and I don’t think they are interested at the moment. They are still trying to enter in the laptop market properly.
Thanks for the video! Just a note on Turbo Boost. When using apps like Logic Pro that use all of the cores at the same time in a random/round robin way (each audio track gets sent to a core/thread randomly) turbo boost slows down performance as the extra power/clock speed used by one core can limit the ability of another core to process its respective track in the same time and stops playback. So this app is great for all macs in those particular cases.
Wow this is incredibly useful information! Thank you!
Thanks for this info! Been searching on how to keep my Mac cool only because I use LPX intensively.
I watched this, turned Turbo Boost off, and suddenly my computer runs my Pro Tools sessions perfectly. Wow. Just ordered a new M1 cause i thought my mac could not handle it anymore but it seems like it might not be needed after all
I´m sorry but I didn´t understand..Is Turbo boost a good tool for us, LPX users? cheers from Argentina
Hey @@alanterry9993! Using an app to disable intel's turbo boost will let you run more tracks and with more stability in LogicX. But it depends on your workflow.
that is exactly what I am looking for!
Will it be good for programming and light creative stuff like photo editing and video editing?
How about limiting the max turbo to say 2ghz (or some good middleway).
Possible? Or is it either Turbo on OR turbo off?
Personally, I use Safari just because it integrates into my Apple ecosystem better than Chome. However, I think it is unacceptable that we should modify our usage habits to counter Apples poor engineering. I could understand not doing video rendering or something like that, but really...the browser? Just sad Apple...sad
Mike Neill I completely agree, it’s pretty embarrassing, they had the potential for a killer product.
To be fair, it's the same on Windows and especially MS Hardware. Battery lasts a lot longer if you use Internet Explorer or Edge instead of Chrome.
Suspect it's Google's poor engineering - they build Chrome.
I thought of not going for the laptop altogether due to fan issues but this changed my mind
It was really helpful
Thanks very much for these tips! It has helped when music production apps!
Turbo Boost “let’s Sell the company before next Apple update”
What is the app you're using to show Temp and RPM on the menu bar?
X2
ever find it?
Been using that since ages !
Hi Max Tech, could you inform me what tool u've used to monitor the temperature as shown on your video? I've purchased istatmenu and no option for that. Thanks!
The macbook air uses the Y series of the i core processors which intel recommends that it doesnt even need any cooler coz it naturally runs low on temperature, but even though apple added a single fan just for tying up lose ends. None the less, it seems like the processor actually needs some cooling. In my opinion though, intel must do a better job at marketing their products instead blaming apple which did a great job with this laptop.
Maybe the core i3 is finally a better option. Would be interesting to have your feelings with that cpu 😉
hey bro I got a question, what software do you use to show your cpu fans speed and processor temperature and the other one too, the one to have the cpu and gpu usage thanks I hope you'll answer
What app/program do you use to see the temp and RPM in the menu bar?
Apple, would it be such a big problem to design a better cooling? I mean, the fan is there, it is just the matter of adding a simple heatpipe! I think paying for the quadcore version doesńt make any sense since it´s throttled like this?
for me cooling is more better than having quod cores. İf cooling is bad not quod core full product is becoming horrible
giorgi elbaqidze IMO, CPU with lower specs but good cooling is better option than CPU with better specs on paper (more cores / threads, higher clocks) but terrible cooling
@@OverclockerX
sure, i was thinking buying a macbook air but well. İ guess mac os will be in only virtual machine
Depends on your work-flow, if its rendering video then maybe its not worth it, but for tasks that take smaller chunks of time, it'll be worth getting the quad.
Imagine purchasing a brand new Macbook Air and immediately neutering it. This is a critical flaw in the Macbook Airs design. Gonna wait for the next Pro.
Lkgpuanimho 0 Macbook Pro 14” rumored to come out later this year
Honestly this was never the machine for you if you need the Pro - these two are completely different classes of machine, have been since the Air came out!
My mbp 2019 also heats up crazy! I had an air before but it’s not as hot when normal use.
Disable turbo, which makes it cooler but way slower. Imagine using a computer which only runs on 1ghz in 2020. And on top of that, it costs $1k+ 🤣
Great video, Max! My MacBook Air is arriving in a few days and this is the first thing I’ll be doing with it. Thanks!
Did you get an i3 or i5?
@@MaxTechOfficial I got the i5 with 16GB of RAM.
Max Tech since the i3 is less powerful, does it not get as hot as the i5? Or does the CPU power not make a difference in heat. I bought the i5 but will return it if it is the reason why it runs so hot. Obviously it’s going to be hot, but if the i3 is better some way. Thoughts?
@@lawconic how did it work bro? would be helpfull if you shared your experience
Very useful tips! I am surprised there isn't written much on this issue, yet. It renews the love for my 2017 Macbook 12 - so I'll try to survive until the first ARM Macbook will be released :)
3:05 which App is being used here for the stats? :)
Edit: look at the last line „Turbo Boost Switcher“, noticed it myself by now 🤣
istat menus
Adarsh S Sharma as I said... „Turbo Boost Switcher“ as can be seen in the bottom lane. :)
Isfanomic s I‘ll check it out :)
and i thought i had a good option for a mac. guess i’m waiting for the 14” until god knows how long.
It’s already here should I buy the base MacBook Pro
Just buy a g14
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Thanks for the great video!! :)
Could you please suggest if 2020 i5 version of air is good enough for running Photoshop and Lightroom for some intensive photo editing ?
Me too curios for the same
I’m already returning mine. I’ll just wait for the new 14 in pro
Now that the new 13 in pro has been released, would you keep waiting 14 one or have any other suggestions?
@@qianyu7905 I just bought the 16 in. It's a lot lighter & thinner than reviews made it out to be. Also thermals aren't much of an issue now.
DAN hi do you have Instagram I have doubts about the 16 inch cause ima buy one or the 13
@@andreshernandez3861 Hey, I don't but you can ask anything here
@@Dani98664 do you hv any thermal issue or fan turn on when doing extremely light works like downloading stuff, youtubing or online meetings?
If you're going to nerf it anyway, why not just go for the i3 MacBook Air?
Nice tips thank you. How about adding some thermal paste / pads between heatsink and bottom plate? (Directly where the CPU sits )Would this be a nice solution?
Thanks, nice video. What app do you use for the temperature reading? Thanks.
cna't you undervolt it like with a windows laptop? That might be better then crippling the systems performance
It is already undervolted out of the factory if you are running MAC OS, hince its even worse with bootcamp Windows
No. Macs don’t have a user accessible bios
You can do that few years ago (using VogateShift on github), I believe its after 2017 models, apple locked the bios, and you can no longer do that
How do you get it to show the cpu temperature and fan speed?
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what do you use to monitor the temperature of your computer and how fast the fan is running?
I'd love to get some feedback on what I do. I have thin freezer packs that people freeze and put in coolers, say in between layers of drink cans. I have two of them and when the Macbook Pro 2017 gets hot, I simply set it on top of one of the freezer packs on my desk. Within 5-7 minutes the entire Macbook is cold. I have two of them and I just rotate them. The added bonus is that the freezer pack, even when thawed, continues to conduct heat. By the time I stick this thing back in the freezer, it's HOT. Is there any reason I shouldn't be doing this? I've done it every day for two years now with no issues.
lovebaja you might expand your battery & fuck it up
This will be a big Business opportunity someone needs to make a small heatsink replacement. the fan is right next door 😉 already so i think it will be easy !!! Free idea here .!! 🤪
HTPC I agree, I hope someone out there figures out a solution
the problem is there are computer chips in the way between the CPU/iGPU and the fan, so we cant place a metal heatpipe there..
derek400004 there is always a way.!!! 🤐
It is a big business opportunity that was done on purpose, and someone already came up with solution, its called MacBook Pro.
By the way, even if you solve heat issue under 200$ and 4 hours of labor, there is a still software throttling as if CPU is hot (watch video with ice pack) so i see only one cost efficient solution, MacBook Pro
Let's see, Apple spent *$5 billion dollars(!)* on their new corporate headquarters, which includes plenty of cooling, but they can't even be bothered to cool their own products.
wtf
Brilliant 😂
Mamo Are you blind? They did this one purpose so they could get more people to buy the MacBook Pro, this is a marketing strategy and a good one at best. They don’t have to put as many features in the new MacBook Pro now, they can just say 2 things; Magic Keyboard and Better Cooling.
Great video
The best quote I hear was from Louis Rosman
"You're buying it wrong"