Facts Don't Win Fights: Here’s How to Cut Through Confirmation Bias | Tali Sharot | Big Think

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  • @Jonas-gl9ke
    @Jonas-gl9ke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1116

    This confirms what I already knew about confirmation bias.

    • @gabrielmihai7856
      @gabrielmihai7856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      :))

    • @jonasfermefors
      @jonasfermefors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Clearly you're a clever guy...

    • @oprimonrardian
      @oprimonrardian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This comment made my day! Thank you for that.

    • @christianbrobst3486
      @christianbrobst3486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Your confirmation further confirms my confirmation of what I already knew about confirmation bias

    • @robcerasuolo9207
      @robcerasuolo9207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The evidence I have also indicates that everyone cherry-picks their evidence, and as a result, no one should ever be taken too seriously in their conclusions and convolutions. 😏

  • @frederickmartin6998
    @frederickmartin6998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +607

    “It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person” -Bill Murray

    • @sirhetmanpirate
      @sirhetmanpirate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Except that what she said in the video suggests that a smart person would be even harder to argue with. Intelligent people put their minds hard at work to rationalise the idea away, make the new information conform to their world view..

    • @johnchestnut5340
      @johnchestnut5340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sirhetmanpirate There is a limit. Averages are applied. A complete and utter idiot is impossible to reason with. A person of average intelligence is still capable of reasoning. You cannot explain how an electric heater works to a person who does not understand electricity.

    • @kevalprajapati9716
      @kevalprajapati9716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@sirhetmanpirate Also we're not aware of what they meant as "intelligent" person. From my experience, if you have the facts, an "intelligent" person would recognize that and adjust their point of view. But that's just a day-to-day observation.

    • @santiagosancho2317
      @santiagosancho2317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sirhetmanpirate Yeah, exactly, the original comment kind of goes against what she says. So apparently, "dumber" people would be actually easy to convince of a different thing (said thing being good or not)

    • @deanstatham8537
      @deanstatham8537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      REAL ,
      F.U

  • @mojopeep326
    @mojopeep326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +620

    “It is much easier to fool someone than convince them they have been fooled.”
    Mark Twain

    • @krystynacarpenter9444
      @krystynacarpenter9444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just used the same quote. Great minds think alike 😂

    • @NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself
      @NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the easiest person in the world to fool is yourself.

    • @SunriseLAW
      @SunriseLAW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "Only a fool would go without an extended warranty on their vehicle" -Mark Twain

    • @darrenehhhhhhtill8051
      @darrenehhhhhhtill8051 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm hungry
      - Cameron Gill

    • @thatoneguy7603
      @thatoneguy7603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darrenehhhhhhtill8051 yes a quote from one of the great philosophers.

  • @mpaczkow
    @mpaczkow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    I was taught in grad school that scientists don’t use the word “believe” because it implies that beliefs don’t require facts or data. I’ve never forgot that lesson.

    • @anton7354
      @anton7354 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      to be fair you have to have no "beliefs" regarding data as well...

    • @ZipMapp
      @ZipMapp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I use belief as a derogatory term

    • @YARDRACERS
      @YARDRACERS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      GOOD, AND I HEARD " BELIEF = A BELOVED THOUGHT"

    • @duderama6750
      @duderama6750 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They don't want you to know how they acquired their beliefs.

    • @sitimaan5054
      @sitimaan5054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's interesting to me....what are the words they use?

  • @brianpetersen3429
    @brianpetersen3429 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2088

    The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.

    • @sugarhighmegaming5008
      @sugarhighmegaming5008 7 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Doodle Master Whoa... Someone totally misjudged which group they belong to.

    • @sugarhighmegaming5008
      @sugarhighmegaming5008 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Doodle Master If I didn’t make it confidently it wouldn’t be an assertion, just a suggestion.

    • @paulwhited8716
      @paulwhited8716 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Doodle master LMFAO thanks for the laugh this morning 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Dorianin1
      @Dorianin1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Get the feeling Doodle's a little too dumb to have any opinion of his own about vaccines? Parroting a playboy model and a discredited scientist doesn't really give a reason to think you have much of a brain.

    • @borealphoto
      @borealphoto 7 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      "doing your own research" is an euphemism for seeking confirmation bias.

  • @VoightKampf
    @VoightKampf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1200

    "Too often, we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
    -President John F. Kennedy

    • @johnnybecerra2647
      @johnnybecerra2647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How is a thought different from an opinion?

    • @danielportelli8214
      @danielportelli8214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Most peoples opinions are formed by someone else and not individually thought through at all. Thinking properly and really reasoning things out is a very difficult and energy consuming task because we're so used to being told what to think as opposed to bring encouraged to think for ourselves

    • @ninpeg4441
      @ninpeg4441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@johnnybecerra2647 The discomfort of thought as in thinking about it. Not just having an opinion but actively thinking about why

    • @MP-db9sw
      @MP-db9sw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Opinions arent thinking, they are passive faith that we are already right. Honest thought demands that we genuinely challenge our opinions in the attempt to prove ourselves wong, this is uncomfortable.

    • @Mcfreddo
      @Mcfreddo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I want to remember that.

  • @4um360
    @4um360 7 ปีที่แล้ว +408

    It's pride! Once a person has made up his mind and made that thought public, his pride prevents him from accepting opposing evidence and retracting.

    • @smithersandburns
      @smithersandburns 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yep, it's dumb when a person can't get over themselves. Dumb because it's selfish. When a person is unware of anythingsother than their own selfish wants and needs, they aren't aware of much at all. Not being aware of much at all, that's what being dumb is. Boom.

    • @graemesydney38
      @graemesydney38 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      too trite

    • @paulkielty3800
      @paulkielty3800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I agree with you totally,people are afraid of being wrong and seemingly looking foolish.🇮🇪

    • @cuckoophendula8211
      @cuckoophendula8211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Pretty much. It's pride that keeps people on the high-confidence-low-info side of the Dunning Kruger graph.

    • @embracethemystery
      @embracethemystery 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      almost nothing involving people and psychology s that simple. sometimes pride is involved, sometimes not. jumping to simple conclusions is an example of the kind of limited, non-scientific, and frankly lazy "thinking" discussed in this video.

  • @adropofgoldensun27
    @adropofgoldensun27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    "The human brain is a complex organ with the wonderful power of enabling man to find reasons for continuing to believe whatever it is that he wants to believe."
    - Voltaire

    • @QoraxAudio
      @QoraxAudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Cliche quote because I can't come up with something useful to say" - Random TH-cam comment

    • @adropofgoldensun27
      @adropofgoldensun27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@QoraxAudio you have quotes all wrong mate, it's exactly what I wanted to say except Voltaire said it better. Otherwise I'd sound just like you.

    • @deanronson6331
      @deanronson6331 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adropofgoldensun27 There are many people on social media (possibly just a few using different handles), who repeat these quotes ad nauseam to appear "profound" to naive, semi-educated users. As a wise man said, it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to use cliche quotes and remove all doubt.

    • @The1stDukeDroklar
      @The1stDukeDroklar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deanronson6331 And there are more people that are simply better educated than the average person and can use a quote to get their point across.

    • @deanronson6331
      @deanronson6331 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The1stDukeDroklar Are you effing kidding me? Are you so naive to think that we're not aware of the fact that any Joe Schmo can google quotes online on any subject and become an instant quoting machine?

  • @m0L3ify
    @m0L3ify 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1566

    It's a real testament to the effectiveness of vaccines that people have forgotten what they're for.

    • @chasesmith7826
      @chasesmith7826 7 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      m0L3ify, damn, this comment blew me away farther than it should have. But, so fucking true, too. So many people have been spared pain, death and heartache. And refute the data before them or never learn of it. It's a sad testament.

    • @Muzikman127
      @Muzikman127 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Doodle Master man I want to just call you a fucking moron so bad but that in no way will help the situation.
      Do you believe in even the concept of vaccination? Are all vaccines fake or just some of them? If only some of them are fake, which ones? And do the diseases exist, or are they made up too? Like, does measles or polio exist?

    • @Dorianin1
      @Dorianin1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Don't feed the troll, Muzik...well, unless you want to toy with an obviously defective degenerate. It's fun, I heartily recommend it.

    • @Muzikman127
      @Muzikman127 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Drosta Dorianin I think this is the wrong attitude. There are unfortunately at this point a large cohort of people really no different from your average person on the street in who have been persuaded that vaccines don't work. If this was confined to the "the earth is flat" type people that would be one thing, but unfortunately it's not. They're not really any less rational than the average person but they've ended up in this completely counterfactual bubble.
      So how do we deal with them? I'm not exactly sure, but insulting and toying with they isn't going to win them around, if anything just convince them they are right.
      A troll is someone just looking for a response, unfortunately most of the anti-vacc commenters really believe what they're saying.

    • @Dorianin1
      @Dorianin1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Then the loss of their genetics won't hurt the species at all. Let 'em go the way of the dodo.

  • @JeyPeyy
    @JeyPeyy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +715

    I love how everyone in the comment section seem to think that this video is about "the other side", without reflecting that it might be their own bias which make them not realize that there is confirmation bias on their own side.

    • @KeshmarOrange
      @KeshmarOrange 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's true, but how do we know that we have the facts which describe reality best? How do we know when our personal biases are coming into play?

    • @incognitotorpedo42
      @incognitotorpedo42 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      KeshmanOrange, we have centuries of experience at determining which facts describe reality best. We know what works. It's called the Scientific Method.

    • @VestigialHead
      @VestigialHead 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      +IncognitoTorpedo
      Yes what you say is true. Just be aware that confirmation bias can still play a part when an existing scientific principle or theory is questioned or seemingly proved wrong. As long as you are mindful of confirmation bias you can steer clear of it.

    • @ElCatrinMuerto
      @ElCatrinMuerto 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ShamPooSham so true... lol

    • @KeshmarOrange
      @KeshmarOrange 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +IncognitoTorpedo Agreed. =)

  • @sefika9825
    @sefika9825 4 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    Little notes for myself:
    -Information is not the best way to convince people, why? => Confirmation Bias
    Eventually, polarization
    -Two people agrees => they become more confident about their view
    else => theirs view doesn't change much
    -The more intelligent you are, you are more likely to twist data to conform to what you already believe
    -In a state of disagreement, you don't have to debunk the contadictory view to convince people. Focusing on a different but relevant direction instead of the contradicting argument's center is more feasible, especially when something significant that has been ignored and shared as a common motive is showed.

    • @virginiamoss7045
      @virginiamoss7045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      15 seconds. We need you for every video. She just went on and on and repeated herself multiple times.

    • @kosztaz87
      @kosztaz87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Music Authority What's your problem, are you one of those people who can't change their mind, and deep down you just realised it? And now you angry with the whole world, because of your own failing?

    • @kosztaz87
      @kosztaz87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@musicauthority7828 You replied to me (I can see it in my notifications), but then for some reason you have deleted your reply. Why?

    • @MrCaesartheman
      @MrCaesartheman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@musicauthority7828 that wasn't very intelligent.

    • @DrJoshuaPerry
      @DrJoshuaPerry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, a strawman is the only thing that works with irrational people. ;^p

  • @sorlag110
    @sorlag110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    "Don't believe everything you read on the internet"
    - Abraham Lincoln

    • @Thewolverine0865
      @Thewolverine0865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🤣

    • @aarone8740
      @aarone8740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought that was Adems

    • @primerim2799
      @primerim2799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's in a constitution

    • @tarajoyce3598
      @tarajoyce3598 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣

    • @ianlassitter2397
      @ianlassitter2397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Only proving that as believed by many, Abraham Lincoln was in fact a time traveller.

  • @definitiveentertainment1658
    @definitiveentertainment1658 6 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    A willingness to change your mind when confronted with new evidence is one of the single most admirable traits I can think of. I’m always trying to catch myself when I see bias in my thought patterns. I’m always willing to hear your argument and give you the chance to change my mind as long as you’re using valid evidence of some kind.
    People need to beware the biases instilled by their parents/teachers/idols. We should always come to terms with the fact that the people who brought us up were humans too, and they don’t have all the answers either. This is what makes science so so valuable. Science is the personification of a person constantly trying to improve their opinion, and prove their self wrong. Science thrives on proving other science wrong or outdated. That’s what makes it the opposite of religion.

    • @verenahua4834
      @verenahua4834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's just not easy to cut thru our own biases n yrs of conditioning n yrs of brain washing. It takes a lot of attentive self awareness which most of us today, don hv time for. To reflect. To connect inward. Sometimes it takes practice to do self analysis.

    • @Andrea.1tree
      @Andrea.1tree 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Definitive Entertainment. I agree with you. I grew up in a cult church, that brain washed with fear, and guilt. Ten years after I left there, I found myself in an argument about religion with co-workers. I normally avoid this, but for some reason I heatedly responded. And stopped myself mid sentence. Apologized with, “I don’t even believe that, I don’t know why I’m arguing “. It was an eye opening moment. I try to be open minded, and learn every day. To me, that’s what science is. Because as long as we exist, we learn. I feel pity for the people I know who are in that religion still. It is voluntary, and any time I’ve attempted to rebuff their attempts at “bringing me back to jesus “, my arguments are met with a wall of almost violent “truth”. So, I let them be, and moved to a more open minded community. I guess I needed to get that off my chest. Whew! Lol.

    • @gessie
      @gessie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@verenahua4834 Depends on how old you are, and how ashamed. Motivated children can shed the cloak of brainwashing under a second if sufficiently disgusted by dogma. Adults too, if they feel deeply ashamed of having been misled.
      If you've become an adult without ever really thinking, and have now become prideful, then yeah - tough shit.

    • @PBAmygdala2021
      @PBAmygdala2021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @O.P.:
      Brilliant! Thank you for that.
      You should be a guest host on Talk Heathen!

    • @DeKnight95
      @DeKnight95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wouldn't consider that a good thing but it does keep the lights turning on

  • @LuisBrito-ly1ko
    @LuisBrito-ly1ko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +395

    “For a man to conquer himself is the first and noblest of all victories.”
    - Plato

    • @Psy0psAgent
      @Psy0psAgent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Done. Foot on the dragon.

    • @wat2206
      @wat2206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Psy0psAgent it means that person has to understand themselves

    • @marshalironsides8777
      @marshalironsides8777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good! Debating ENDS.

    • @InefableTheo
      @InefableTheo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      know thy Self

    • @Pohlmaster
      @Pohlmaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about women?
      Obviously they didn’t exist back then, because Plato was smart, he would have known, right? Right?
      No? … No.

  • @dddmemaybe
    @dddmemaybe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +471

    George Orwell - "Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious."

    • @fredkeeler4620
      @fredkeeler4620 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Love that. Speaking of Orwell, "1984" is more relevant than ever.

    • @phukyew14
      @phukyew14 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sounds like he was talking about Jordan Peterson. Common sense isn't common anymore.

    • @jessewallace12able
      @jessewallace12able 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really good. Thank you.

    • @MatthewTS22
      @MatthewTS22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Restatement to whom?

    • @timstadlmueller58
      @timstadlmueller58 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's this from? Fantastic quote.

  • @comedyman4896
    @comedyman4896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    "Stop leaving quotes of famous people, it's annoying"
    -Sun Tzu, Art of War

    • @monsieurdorgat6864
      @monsieurdorgat6864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "No"
      - All your dates

    • @nazellina
      @nazellina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for this :)

    • @darrenehhhhhhtill8051
      @darrenehhhhhhtill8051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm hungry
      - Cameron Gill

    • @IRosamelia
      @IRosamelia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "But I like reading interesting quotes!"
      -Me

    • @ohcrikey9560
      @ohcrikey9560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      'Us roadsweepers have a saying....'look after your broom'.'
      -Trigger

  • @Uns46
    @Uns46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    “People turn their brains off when they disagree.” I can’t agree more on this haha

    • @czakotmiszermawi
      @czakotmiszermawi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I, well, disagree with you. :-)

    • @Uns46
      @Uns46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@czakotmiszermawi battle royal then

    • @Uns46
      @Uns46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@musicauthority7828 is this a comment posted by a conscious mind? ;)

    • @erezsolomon3838
      @erezsolomon3838 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@czakotmiszermawi explain yourself please

    • @czakotmiszermawi
      @czakotmiszermawi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@erezsolomon3838 It supposed to be a sarcasm (actually, more autoirony). If I'm correct, the author understood that, some others probably not that much.

  • @joeyking3569
    @joeyking3569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +353

    "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason...is like administering medicine to the dead...." Thomas Paine "The American Crisis" March 1788

    • @1974jrod
      @1974jrod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Agreed. The toughest ones are the ones whom actually think they are using the authority of reason.

    • @Junior-zf7yy
      @Junior-zf7yy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@1974jrod you don’t see the irony in the fact you are also coming from a standpoint in which you also believe you are using the authority of reason? When two people both believe they’re using the authority of reason, who’s to say which one of them is objectively using the authority of reason? The thought process you’re criticizing is also the same thought process you’re actually using yourself.

    • @1974jrod
      @1974jrod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Junior-zf7yy I don't think, I know. There is a difference.

    • @Junior-zf7yy
      @Junior-zf7yy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@1974jrod No that’s the problem. Have you ever considered that the people you dispute with also feel that they KNOW.

    • @1974jrod
      @1974jrod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Junior-zf7yy I do. But someone has to know or everyone is ignorant. Is everyone ignorant?

  • @YJ0AUF
    @YJ0AUF 7 ปีที่แล้ว +837

    Fun fact: You never win an emotional argument with logic.

    • @alanduval4255
      @alanduval4255 6 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      ...and pretty much all arguments are emotional.

    • @taylordavison6849
      @taylordavison6849 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@alanduval4255 And most who are emotional are in denial.

    • @baruchben-david4196
      @baruchben-david4196 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Reasoning will never make a man correct an ill opinion, which by reasoning he never acquired. - Jonathan Swift.

    • @Sora-ce1zx
      @Sora-ce1zx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Logic is not for attacking people but communicating with people after all.

    • @angelicamimosa
      @angelicamimosa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      YJ0AUF Agree!
      And most conversations on social media are emotional and not intellectual
      Shows how flawed we humans are!

  • @jnagarya519
    @jnagarya519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    When you reduce facts to "your truth," you subvert fact by making everything subjective. Then you're in the vast ocean of "everything is opinion".

    • @justinAclark2075
      @justinAclark2075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I'm not gonna live my truth. I'm gonna live, and I'm gonna try and become aware of the actual truth.

    • @thomascromwell6840
      @thomascromwell6840 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@justinAclark2075How will you do that? Do you have a lens into the objective without looking through the subjective you?

    • @thomascromwell6840
      @thomascromwell6840 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everything is subjective. I don't have an omniscient perspective on reality and I'm quite sure neither do you. We use the scientific method to arrive at a common, demonstrable and identifiable truth. The theory of relativity for example depends on the inertial frame of reference. No two points share one.
      Also your misuse of the phrase 'my truth' shows you haven't seriously looked at its origins and uses. Might as well use 'woke' and 'literally' to mean whatever you personally want.

    • @justinAclark2075
      @justinAclark2075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomascromwell6840 I think you're nit picking here, bud. Things are not subjective, but our interpretations of them are. The person you're correcting is actually right, but they didn't use the best language

    • @justinAclark2075
      @justinAclark2075 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomascromwell6840 bro you sound like me when I was 12 years old, saying "yeah, but how do you KNOooOOooOOw?"

  • @matthewnelson325
    @matthewnelson325 6 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    "Facts don't win fights ... " As Astonishing and bewildering as i found this to be it is undeniably true ! : (

    • @DaveE99
      @DaveE99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s frustrating as often I’ve expressed an interest in actually being open and learning about a subject deeper, because of you think about it, what do we really know about climate change or health policy for instance. And never had anyone take me up on this.

    • @bornanatheist8346
      @bornanatheist8346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Arguing with anyone is not a good way so I say, "have you check your fact? No, than think what you will." Then I go on am way.
      My mother would tell you, "Never argue with an idiot as will just get you upset. Beat you head on a wall, does not solve the problem but it works just as well."

    • @jhdk356
      @jhdk356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Paraphrasing the conclusion; Facts don't win fights, fear does...

    • @bornanatheist8346
      @bornanatheist8346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jhdk356
      Then you would have a problem with me, I walk point my in Nam as a Marine and anyone that knows me knows I go by saying, "the only thing to fear is fear itself!" Or how is this one, "You only die once but a coward dies a thousand death!"
      Who are you to other than yourself?

    • @gforce9132
      @gforce9132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bornanatheist8346 he’s right . Look at the power of religion,divisive politics, most humans are guided by self preservation. Facts are useless to the sheep. It’s depressing but society is built that way. I like the quote you mentioned but courageous heroes are used and not appreciated enough .

  • @SpaceZombie
    @SpaceZombie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Ego is a big problem as well, some people don't want to "give in" and don't easily admit they are wrong (subconsciously, selectively filtering information. wanting to be right). I always try not to have any "interests" or get too emotional/personal. I don't mind being wrong. I'd rather be wrong then lie to myself.

    • @person8203
      @person8203 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      So right, ego effects everything. Not just discussions but all kinds of areas, especially the work place. Managers that dismiss ideas only to regurgitate them as their own. People that have to inject their own spin on an idea to feel like it's their's. Arguing semantics to somehow 'win' an argument (happens a lot on yt). Dismissing or belittling is a big tactic for dragging down others. It's all driven by ego.

    • @SpaceZombie
      @SpaceZombie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That also sounds familiar indeed :P

    • @danielmancillas5672
      @danielmancillas5672 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      SpaceZombie WHOOPEEE!!!

    • @juanmoralesvideo
      @juanmoralesvideo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe ego is THE problem here.

    • @Scrapingthebottom
      @Scrapingthebottom 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree

  • @troubledsole9104
    @troubledsole9104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I had the misfortune of working with a guy who was very good at making arguments and influencing the top brass. I soon realized that he never let facts get in the way of his arguments. Some of us who were technical experts knew he was a fraud. He even cost me my job after I called him out on it. Since he had won over top management he had that kind of “credibility” to affect people’s standing within the company. He would plant seeds of lies about people who were a threat to him. However, facts eventually caught up with him and he was fired, but not without the wake of damage he had caused.

    • @ramaraksha01
      @ramaraksha01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Kinda like Religion - zero evidence of anything yet "he is coming any day now" and even uneducated goat-herders realize that the boy crying wolf is just playing with them, educated, intelligent people of the 21st century, no less, drool over this promise
      Or of course, there is Heaven - billions of lazy people sponging off God for eternity - living a life of ease & comfort just like prostitutes/gigolos/leeches/freeloaders do down here - an idle, useless, pointless existence for eternity!
      And again those who questioned such promises were mass murdered in the past - still getting abused and killed in countries like Pak and Bangladesh

    • @robertcoutts926
      @robertcoutts926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's called a sociopath ... facts are to be avoided at all costs.

    • @willek1335
      @willek1335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Would you've done things differently, knowing what you know today?

    • @fred8174
      @fred8174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We’ve all had that experience, I’ll bet. Happened to me too.

    • @duderama6750
      @duderama6750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are everywhere. They seek positions of authority so that they can control people.

  • @bobbyb9718
    @bobbyb9718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    “Man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest”.
    Simon and Garfunkel (The Boxer)

  • @akinoshimo
    @akinoshimo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Early in my career as a systems and hardware design engineer I knew another older engineer who used to joke (he was joking about why some system designs fail), "Change the facts to match the theory" , in other words, don't do that. When designers cherry pick data to match their system performance expectations the result can be bad outcomes (fatal outcomes for Avionics systems, bridges and so on) .

    • @stevenvater2681
      @stevenvater2681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great Post,...but you need to add climate change to your list

    • @AppleSauceGamingChannel
      @AppleSauceGamingChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem being that in situations for which large numbers of people need to be convinced of the facts, not just people that know what they're talking about, alternative methodologies to plain statements of fact need to be used. Facts don't easily get assimilated by the majority of people. Even simple ones.

  • @lofts2399
    @lofts2399 7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    This video made me realize, I am a big culprit in utilizing confirmation bias to validate my beliefs :-)

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's awesome. Never stop letting new information help you grow as a person.

    • @prakritisingha6906
      @prakritisingha6906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      wow amazing!!! now I have some hope for humanity!

    • @amoghnene
      @amoghnene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's great

    • @lobstered_blue-lobster
      @lobstered_blue-lobster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "This video made me realize, *We are a big culprit in utilizing confirmation bias* ....."

    • @countryjoe3551
      @countryjoe3551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Now if we could just get the rest of humanity to make the same confession.

  • @drink15
    @drink15 7 ปีที่แล้ว +498

    Title should be. How to win a "TH-cam comment section argument".

    • @punlovincriminal5564
      @punlovincriminal5564 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      drink15 LOL there is rarely a winner it that situation. Just time wasted trying to convince some idiot that they are wrong in my experience.

    • @simonbanks5012
      @simonbanks5012 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pun lovin criminal That's just because you think you're right and can't question that...

    • @punlovincriminal5564
      @punlovincriminal5564 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Simon Banks I only ever argue based purely on scientific studies. I constantly question if I am correct.

    • @simonbanks5012
      @simonbanks5012 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's good, most people I've talked to don't do that

    • @soonny002
      @soonny002 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Lol. As far as I'm concerned, there are only two groups of youtube commenters.
      a) the eloquent
      b) the rest
      The eloquent group presents their views smartly, coherently, succinctly, and quotes evidence. They are genuinely interested in expressing their views even if they may or may not be interested in changing opinions. This is probably 1% of all the commenters.
      The 99% of the rest, are just that. "Fuck you", "you're a stupid twat", "STFU", "*penis picture*", etc. These are the ones you have to actively censor out of your view because they are just 'noise'. They are not interested in expressing their views partly because they have none, or they aren't smart enough to have the vocabulary to do so, they just wanted some attention.
      I must say I've learned some stuff from youtube commenters and I enjoy debating with people. I don't want to "win" any argument, I consider myself a winner just for finding another intellectual who isn't out to berate me with every argument, but merely to convey their views.

  • @MeyersCTR
    @MeyersCTR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This woman’s points are why Facebook, TH-cam, mainstream media are so careful about the “infotainment” you are exposed to.

  • @annbrown3037
    @annbrown3037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I've heard this attributed to several different sources, nevertheless, it remains true : " When an honest man is proven wrong, he either stops being wrong, or, he stops being honest".

  • @ongogablogian3431
    @ongogablogian3431 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    "Just giving information without first considering where they are coming from may backfire at us."
    In other words, even if we find someone's beleifes repulsive we have to consider their upbringing and perspectives and not come off as threatening. Then we can begin to convice them of our own points and perspectives.

    • @dianedonohue9855
      @dianedonohue9855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes. It's like the right combo... opens the lock!
      👍

    • @scambammer6102
      @scambammer6102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I want to see a study on the effects of mockery.

    • @bloodink9508
      @bloodink9508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This great for one on one discussions. When was the last one one rally, or awareness campaign, news release etc?

    • @PBAmygdala2021
      @PBAmygdala2021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scambammer6102 very interesting idea! I searched on Google Scholar but couldn't find anything relevant.

  • @MikaelNevear
    @MikaelNevear 7 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    When you see a video about confirmation bias but your biased to believe it so your bias makes you sceptical of your bias of your confirmation bias

    • @ElCatrinMuerto
      @ElCatrinMuerto 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mikael Nevear you just blew my mind 💥

    • @tinydog1234
      @tinydog1234 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In other news, the six sheiks' sixth sheep's sick!

    • @amoniousbt1110
      @amoniousbt1110 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Skeptical feedback loop

    • @dddmemaybe
      @dddmemaybe 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ john smith, wah I love that string of words now lol

    • @dorianmachia3112
      @dorianmachia3112 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I sweartoGod, I'm stealing this and making this a Facebook status

  • @hectorpalacios5527
    @hectorpalacios5527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Find the common motives to change the outcome. Perfect, thank you!

    • @thomascromwell6840
      @thomascromwell6840 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not. You cannot find common ground with religious zealots and racists. They want you to suffer. That's why they do what they do.

  • @MsAkbar14
    @MsAkbar14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    “I’m just making up a random quote to look smart here.”
    -Me, a random youtube enjoyer

    • @Loctorak
      @Loctorak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "You'd be surprised just how common this is" -Me, just now

    • @ozgurkaratas6450
      @ozgurkaratas6450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll be quoting and referring to this brightly humoring line gladly!

    • @loishansen8003
      @loishansen8003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is both very witty and therefore wise. Quotable.

  • @timothywelch6450
    @timothywelch6450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    "Two minutes' thought is sufficient to make this clear. But thought is arduous, and two minutes is a long time"
    Bertrand Russel

  • @theresacarmen9847
    @theresacarmen9847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The level of a person's fears has an impact on their openness to new viewpoints.

    • @luispiros
      @luispiros 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But not only fear, but also motivation impacts their openness to viewpoints, as well.

    • @TheMongrelCat522
      @TheMongrelCat522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fear is the mind-killer

    • @couchpotatoe91
      @couchpotatoe91 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMongrelCat522 Haha I was about to type just that!

  • @kurooaisu
    @kurooaisu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This video gives "Facts don't care about your feelings" a new meaning

    • @williamspell5692
      @williamspell5692 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And feelings don't care about your facts.

    • @buffuniballer
      @buffuniballer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamspell5692 yep, feelings are largely impervious to facts.

    • @eeurr1306
      @eeurr1306 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@buffuniballerTheyre not impervious to EMOTIONAL DAMAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • @buffuniballer
      @buffuniballer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eeurr1306huh?

  • @kayomholt-montague611
    @kayomholt-montague611 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    GREAT commentary! I learned a long time ago that being able to find common ground was essential to building bridges! I also found out that simply acknowledging someone's experience, pain or beliefs is also a bridge-building skill.

    • @dianedonohue9855
      @dianedonohue9855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. You reminded me of a great saying. People don't care how much you know; they want to know how much you care.
      👍

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spot on. If you truly want to change someone's perspective, you absolutely always have to start with the common ground you share. The bonus is that sometimes starting at this point will help you realize that it was actually you that was incorrect the whole time.

    • @eeurr1306
      @eeurr1306 ปีที่แล้ว

      I already had alot of respect for bridge architects before, but after this comment Im just furious they dont get paid even more.

  • @csdimitris
    @csdimitris 7 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Confirmation bias is something that I wish I had known 40 years ago...

    • @phobiandarkmoon
      @phobiandarkmoon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You know, the more I learn about confirmation bias the more effects of it I can see

    • @user-iu1xg6jv6e
      @user-iu1xg6jv6e 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How old are you?

    • @csdimitris
      @csdimitris 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      54

    • @funbigly
      @funbigly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chris, you probably did. It would have just been called "bias" back then.... as in, the tendency to pick and choose what one wants to accept as true. Example: "No point telling them, they're biased". Confirmation Bias is simply a more explored concept for the same phenomenon.

    • @hellooutthere8956
      @hellooutthere8956 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Dimitris yeah? Go back and read comment I posted today. Peace.

  • @andrewscotteames4718
    @andrewscotteames4718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This was very insightful. I often wonder what it takes to convince someone of something. I like to say that I am more interested in finding truth than I am in confirming my biases, yet I must admit that despite this I am often very resistant to information that does not confirm what I already believe and I must work to control that impulse. How much more so, then, must people who have not consciously decided to pursue truth at the expense of previously held beliefs!

    • @tarajoyce3598
      @tarajoyce3598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What seem to be your best methods? I know when; I'm simply nodding my head on a multi faceted subject (pretty much everything) I need further education.
      Had a fabulous deep dive on AI. I can feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that no one knows. Understanding, within my ability to do so, each "camp's" reasoning makes me feel my opinion is at least reasonable. Okay...it also let's me laugh and make up fabulously wild suppositions always prefaced with I'm totally making this up.

    • @kenkaplan3654
      @kenkaplan3654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Opinions will never change beliefs. Events do.

    • @eeurr1306
      @eeurr1306 ปีที่แล้ว

      The best way to convince somebody is to act like you despise your own opinion.

  • @sicko_the_ew
    @sicko_the_ew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You've confirmed my belief (formed about half way through)! People are wired up to win fights, more than they are, to measure up the world around them. And for most people, an argument is a fight, not a mutual search for the truth.

    • @akashtandel9633
      @akashtandel9633 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can I quote you sometimes, especially the second sentence ? It is one of the best original quotes in the comment section.

    • @sicko_the_ew
      @sicko_the_ew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@akashtandel9633 Thanks. Yes, sure. No need to quote me. If the words express your own thoughts on the matter, you can just use them. (It's not a paper or something, just a conversation of sorts?)

  • @fwdbias9099
    @fwdbias9099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Honestly I come away from this just distressed at people's inability to change their minds or take in new and opposing data. This should be our biggest focus, we should be teaching ourselves constantly how to listen to opposing information and re-evaluate our positions.

    • @OnceSomeFunATime
      @OnceSomeFunATime 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Human nature is against humanity

    • @pauldamse253
      @pauldamse253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am distressed that your comment has 1/20th the likes of cringe quotes when you are actually hitting the nail straight on the head

    • @woutertron
      @woutertron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Changing one's mind, admitting you were wrong, admitting you've been fooled, etc., is incredibly painful. It causes a thing called cognitive dissonance: the discomfort of holding two ideas in your head that cannot possibly both be true. Human brains are designed to hate and avoid that feeling. I'm not sure you can teach them to do the opposite.

    • @jerrymiller9039
      @jerrymiller9039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the leftist running schools want to censor anyone with a different opinion so they don't want people to think for themselves

    • @JosephWValinor
      @JosephWValinor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@woutertron I’m not so sure. I grew up with an awareness of my own cognitive dissonance. Or at least a habit of deliberately trying to recognize them. Maybe that helps? I’m quite comfortable with some of my cognitive dissonances.

  • @brigham2250
    @brigham2250 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    From hearing this video I was left with the following realization: Conversation is pretty much useless and the only way to get someone to do what you want is to leave out details they don't want to hear.

    • @harleyb.birdwhisperer
      @harleyb.birdwhisperer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Currently, there seems to be another way - arrest and a few weeks of confinement following a felony indictment. Jessica Watkins said something about never wanting to hear of the Oath Keepers again and just wanting to make sandwiches and serve drinks in her bar. Sounds convinced to me. That wasn’t the result of a conversation.

    • @SamsonDerrer
      @SamsonDerrer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe the goal shouldn't be to "get someone to do what YOU want"... Is your name an LDS reference?

    • @brigham2250
      @brigham2250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamsonDerrer Funny, I thought someone would eventually think I was a Mormon because of my TH-cam name. Nope, never was a Mormon or even religious. And I don't live anywhere near where Mormons are known to live.

    • @brigham2250
      @brigham2250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamsonDerrer Funny, I thought someone would eventually think I was a Mormon because of my TH-cam name. Nope, never was a Mormon or even religious. And I don't live anywhere near where Mormons are known to live.

    • @SamsonDerrer
      @SamsonDerrer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brigham2250 I always thought that Brigham is a rad name! its a bit charged now though lol. my name is also religious obviously. im not super religious myself

  • @T-8UG83AR
    @T-8UG83AR ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the biggest point is how much information the other person is being exposed to while in an suseptible state. I found that people are more likely to change their mind about something that I'm arguing against when I calm them down 1st. Usually I do this by signaling to them, in some way, that I'm not attacking their intelligence, I'm just trying to share information. No one listens when they feel angry and embarrassed.

  • @slappyfun
    @slappyfun ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh no, this confirms my thesis that fear is a great motivator. That's why fear mongering feels more prevalent.

    • @clintonalver2715
      @clintonalver2715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But there's nothing wrong with using fear as a motivator if you use it to improve life.

    • @slappyfun
      @slappyfun ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clintonalver2715 fear mongering to get public consent for war with Russia and China are examples of bad and dangerous use of fear as a motivator. But it probably temporarily improves the lives of the heads of military industry.

    • @The1stDukeDroklar
      @The1stDukeDroklar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@slappyfun Only if that fear is unjustified. Many times people are not educated enough on the facts to fear what they should be in fear of.

  • @dranirbanpal
    @dranirbanpal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This is actually consistent with the evolutionary processes that led to the development of reason. Check out "The Enigma of Reason" - Dan Sperber and Hugo Mercier. According to them, the purpose of reason is not to find the truth, but rather to convince, others and oneself.

    • @x16881
      @x16881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "The Enigma of Reason" is probably the best (but quite difficult...) read about the "Confirmation Bias" topic. But on chapter 15 - "The Bright Side of Reason" they explain how, through argumentation in a group of people with different very view points, the "dark side" of reason, among it, confirmation bias, can be overcome...

    • @dominikfrohlich6253
      @dominikfrohlich6253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is a very good point! In our inner self we want to be right, we want to be "good". Therefore we use our reasoning to convince ourselves and others that we are right. It's always about self-consistency. You want to be at equilibrium with yourself and dissenting new information disturbs that. It takes effort and work to adjust your opinions and behavior to integrate the new information into your inner self and be balanced again. Because it is very easy to dismiss climate change, seemingly without (immediate) consequence, we tend to choose that as it is cheaper than changing our way of life.

    • @ARichardP
      @ARichardP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We usually start from a set of premises which are arbitrarily cut from our tapestry of life experience and which are informed by all kinds of more primitive limbic tendencies and then we reason from them like they were true and like we’ve come up with a further truth. But, yesit’s about convincing more than about truth. Mark Twain said, “Tell the truth and you’ll be alone.” So, there’s not so much incentive to tell the truth. We are social creatures. Makes sense we would relegate truth telling to where it’s safer, such as in plays and writing and music.

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Usually but not always. Some people like myself are obsessed with objectivity. My aim really, honestly, truly is to find the truth. My ego is built on being correct, not "right". If the evidence changes, or I realize I thought about the evidence wrong, I'll change my mind on the spot. I know I'm severely in the minority though.

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct. Finding experimentally verifiable laws was a side effect of processes that were originally useful only to form a wider consensus.

  • @moctarbebaha7582
    @moctarbebaha7582 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I twisted the information in this video to make it conform to what I already believed. In the end I learned nothing.

  • @technomage6736
    @technomage6736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Average person: "I understand that this happens, but it doesn't apply to me"

  • @danlewis7707
    @danlewis7707 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The point of the video was not to communicate that people do not care about facts. The point was that people do not listen to viewpoints they do not agree with unless you characterize that point of view in a way that appeals to what they care about and their goals.
    We buy things because we are sold them. Some we need, some we do not. People are persuaded every second of everyday. Though they are rarely persuaded by facts. They are persuaded by emotion.
    We must feel something is true before we can consider it as so.
    Ignoring who we are doesn't change who we are, in fact it reinforces our flaws.
    Being objective is hard.

  • @t-timewithartemis4174
    @t-timewithartemis4174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I find it interesting that this "new" discovery from the data supports what Dale Carnegie wrote about almost a hundred years ago in "How to win friends and influence people": He calls it "getting two 'yes'es before a 'no'". It's also a form of "priming". Also known as manipulation. Someday, hopefully the human species will have matured enough that manipulation isn't a common occurrence.

    • @frogray7929
      @frogray7929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That will not happen any time soon. Most of human progress is focused around questions of how to more fairly produce and distribute resources and power. The better we balance people's resources and power the more manipulation becomes the only reliable way to dominate others and win conflicts. When society advances so much that you can't force people to do things with your power and wealth, powerful people turn to manipulation of human emotions and nature. I think that as human society progresses more, brute force will be replaced by even more manipulation.

    • @t-timewithartemis4174
      @t-timewithartemis4174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@frogray7929 sadly, you're probably right; I have cautious optimism for otherwise.

    • @ramaraksha01
      @ramaraksha01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The top religions of the day make promises that they very well know can never be verified - but where is the common sense? Billions sitting about doing nothing? An idle, useless & pointless existence for eternity?
      Every time i ask - so what does one DO in Heaven? Can you describe a DAY? JUST ONE DAY?
      Theists run away
      The amazing thing is that the media, the educated DO NOT ASK SUCH A QUESTION!
      The media is always happy to ask questions that religious people are more than happy to answer - will I be happy in Heaven? But of course! you will be soooooo happy, everything will be so wonderful!
      Amazing and horrifying that billions of highly educated fall for this ponzi-scheme over and over

    • @noahanderson984
      @noahanderson984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope not, manipulating people is the only way I’ve gotten this far

    • @juliahello6673
      @juliahello6673 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @FrogRay Most human problems are not caused or solved by redistributing resources. The reason we think they are is because our Paleolithic instincts are focused on preventing someone in the tribe from getting too much power and taking all the deer meat. The reason we can’t solve big problems like climate change is because people aren’t interested in problems unless there’s a powerful oppressive bad guy and a virtuous good guy.

  • @daviddunmore8415
    @daviddunmore8415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As Maynard Keynes once said ' When the facts change, I change my mind' Let's all try to really take that on board.

    • @garytate8284
      @garytate8284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That, unfortunately, involves critical thinking and an open mind. Today, technology has made it easier to live in a one-voice bubble and education is going backwards. We're starting to teach kids to avoid books and issues that don't fit our thinking, rather than allowing them to learn critical thinking and read everything.

    • @dm-2194
      @dm-2194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How does a fact change?! Having said that, I would change my mind in light of new information…

    • @daviddunmore8415
      @daviddunmore8415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dm-2194 Now we're getting ino philosophy - things that have been held to be facts have later been shown not to be true. This is something that happens in the light of new discoveries.

  • @adramnauth
    @adramnauth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Yes, I frequently find that most people I encounter are much more concerned with defending their presumptions rather than critically interpreting the data and the validity of their inferences as well as other people's inferences. The only times that felt like fruitful argumentation/brainstorming was occurring was typically when the topic at hand was very narrow and not overtly interfering with their values and worldview. In those times, which are fun, it feels more like a collaboration to collectively scrutinize data and efficiently employ rational inferences.

    • @ramaraksha01
      @ramaraksha01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I keep asking what does one DO in Heaven? Like in what kind of WORK? And why would an allmighty being need any work to be done?
      I was also threatened with Hell by a Christian - it seems who I am as a person does not matter - so I ask - does that include Children? Babies? babies! old people? Pregnant women?
      So the after life is like being a Jew in Nazi Germany for billions of Atheists, Hindus and others? set apart based on belief and dumped into gas chambers in hell!

    • @ramaraksha01
      @ramaraksha01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bspr9062 How do you explain NAZI ideas of hate & division being PROMOTED OPENLY?
      Hindus, Atheists & Buddhists are told who they are as people does not matter, all "God" cares about is the "right" belief, all these people will be set apart based on their belief and dumped into gas chambers in hell!
      Women, children, pregnant women, even babies won't be spared!
      Just like how Jews suffered under the Nazis!
      And these ideas can be OPENLY PROMOTED!
      So much for all our "Critical thinking"

    • @54356776
      @54356776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The irony of this comment..

  • @idanshabat3586
    @idanshabat3586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "There are four lights"
    - Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise

  • @wirehunter86
    @wirehunter86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One problem I see going on is the lack of trust in professionals such as scientists and doctors. When presented with studies and data, people question the validity of them, which stems from how some companies and organizations present their information to be more favorable to their argument. Unless the audience is knowledgeable in those topics, it can be difficult for them to understand if those information makes sense or not. Besides confirmation bias, I think the distrust of corporations and organizations is another big factor.

  • @1981kellyg
    @1981kellyg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Didn't really explain how to "cut through the confirmation bias."

    • @partydean17
      @partydean17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Really explained that you can't. We are going around it

    • @urbantwilight
      @urbantwilight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Basically, confront the scared sheep with real, frightening consequences.

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It basically said to not fight the other person's opinion directly, but to use arguments that would support another part of the person's fear (keeping kids safe from measles etc).

    • @colinellicott9737
      @colinellicott9737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The very last part did show how to cut through: appeal to emotion. Show them the horror of the disease. Then see if they can accept responsibility for allowing their child to suffer that way. It's using an emotional tactic instead of a an intellectual tactic. Tough love.

    • @jaymag9350
      @jaymag9350 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You got to out crazy the crazies.

  • @DrRodox.
    @DrRodox. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My friend is a really smart guy, who loves facts and argue with people.
    But one day, after so many storms in his path, he asked me what characteristcs i had that made me be able to be inside different groups. I said:
    You dont really have to know all the facts, you just have to know their feelings and start from that.

    • @KPMwolf
      @KPMwolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Completely agreed. One need to balance logic and emotion.

    • @juliahello6673
      @juliahello6673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If I can’t “win” an argument without manipulating someone’s emotions I don’t even want to try.

    • @ZipMapp
      @ZipMapp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm sorry but this really sounds like talking to people with mental limitations

    • @DrRodox.
      @DrRodox. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juliahello6673 So you are the 100% facts type of person too?

    • @DrRodox.
      @DrRodox. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZipMapp Tell me more.

  • @jkhawkinsjk
    @jkhawkinsjk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How much arrogance does one have to have to assume she is the sole arbiter of "facts" and "information", it's only the other party who has "confirmation bias"!
    This idea that we should argue to "win" using emotional manipulation not only advertises her untrustworthiness, but promoting it is toxically divisive for society. This is how sociopaths think; assume they're right, no self-awareness of own bias, calculating, manipulating, dominating, no empathy.
    To her credit "the more intelligent you are, the more likeley you are to twist data at will to conform to your belief" seems to be true as it is expertly displayed in her examples at the end; twist data on controvertial political topics to serve her own opinions and dress it up as science and morality. It's disturbing that there are studies how to emotionally manipulate voters and patients rather than focusing on ethics and informed consent. Sounds more like what Noam Chomsky calls "Manufacturing Consent".
    There is no need to "fight", let's instead promote perspective taking, compassion for different points-of-view, looking for a "win-win" and celebrating humility and diversity of opinion, it's better for everyone.
    See also Big Think "When science becomes ideology" and "Why the wrong people end up in power"

  • @thereisnosanctuary6184
    @thereisnosanctuary6184 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    "FEELINGS!"
    "NO, MATH!"
    "FEELINGS!" ( smashes mathematicians skull in with crowbar)
    Feelings won.

    • @brandonhall9959
      @brandonhall9959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both have their importance, neither need to "win", both are as they are, what people do with politics is what becomes the problem.

    • @PatrickPease
      @PatrickPease 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      feelings won a battle, feelsdude will die and the truth still exist

    • @ramaraksha01
      @ramaraksha01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol Theist: "There is a God"
      Scientist: "There is no evidence of such a being"
      Theist: "But, but, but I need to live an eternal life of comfort & ease, like prostitutes/gigolos/leeches/freeloaders live down here. There HAS TO BE a Sugar Daddy in the sky"(smashes the Scientists skull with a crowbar)
      Theists win

    • @PatrickPease
      @PatrickPease 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ramaraksha01 afterlife does not imply a deity, and visa versa.

    • @ramaraksha01
      @ramaraksha01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PatrickPease No, no Heaven or Hell either - primitive ideas from primitive people sadly being blindly followed by even the best of minds
      There is no magic Retirement Home in the sky where billions will get to just sit around chatting - an idle, useless & pointless existence for eternity
      THERE IS ONLY ONE WORLD! THIS ONE!
      THE ONE GOD MADE FOR US

  • @hetzijzoal
    @hetzijzoal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Could also be interpreted as "scaring someone more then they are scared of what they previously believed works"

  • @mysund
    @mysund 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "I'm not interested in facts. I find they tend to cloud my judgement. I prefer to rely on instincts and blind prejudice" (Steward Lee's The Taxi driver argument.)

    • @tomatojuice984
      @tomatojuice984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Strangely that might work better..

  • @robinwallace7097
    @robinwallace7097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I stumbled upon this concept just the other day! I have laundry soap sheets and wanted to get people to switch from plastic. I didn't mention the environment or dioxins once, I only talked about how I don't have to lug that huge, heavy bottle to the washer anymore and how it actually works better anyway! Lol These are people who fought me before on environmental issues, and they're switching!!! 👍 😃 👍

  • @orbismworldbuilding8428
    @orbismworldbuilding8428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's honestly horrible that autism is considered a tragedy and to be avoided at all costs. The people who think that just don't want to deal with people with different needs and minds than their own and either outright reject people with differences or do so indirectly by negligence and baked-in ableism

    • @petermoore3439
      @petermoore3439 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, that basically is the reality about anything that involves non-ordinary mental health, hell even for people with different physical needs

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petermoore3439 Yeah but it shouldn't be that way, and it is something that can and has been changed before, or atleast, improved.

    • @petermoore3439
      @petermoore3439 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@orbismworldbuilding8428 yes of course

    • @dylanbuchman8128
      @dylanbuchman8128 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think it's unreasonable for people not to want that for their children or for anyone's children. Autistics have demonstrated some incredible gifts that may come along with their condition, but I imagine few people would feel these qualities or heightened abilities could outweigh the various struggles the person could face or have exacerbated as a result of their idiosyncrasies--im sure it's different for everyone, but parents don't know how the condition will affect their ability to understand and communicate with other people, take care of themselves, or succeed in school or work, and those are all important to their overall welfare. Parents just don't want the people they raise to have unnecessary roadblocks to the things they want and what they'll need, and they know autism would be likely to present someone with some serious challenges and impediments

  • @hoidoei941
    @hoidoei941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never had issues with learning something new and admitting I was wrong..

  • @PsychokoreUndergroundRap
    @PsychokoreUndergroundRap 7 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    you shouldnt add annotations while she is explaining the "lesson". start it @ 5:35

    • @NoaManWORKOUT
      @NoaManWORKOUT 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh u're here too :o

    • @PsychokoreUndergroundRap
      @PsychokoreUndergroundRap 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noa Man WORKOUT yes sir.. watched yesterday a few things about the flat earth and reptilians on earth as well

    • @Scrapingthebottom
      @Scrapingthebottom 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree

    • @mahmoudassyass186
      @mahmoudassyass186 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I Agree !

    • @Oniwabanhammer
      @Oniwabanhammer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And it sums up to, "it's easier to manipulate people through fear than actually convincing them">

  • @ralphbrown9885
    @ralphbrown9885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A basic of negotiation is first determine where all you both agree, then address the disagreement. Usually there is much more agreement than disagreement, which helps people feel more “alike” and listen better to each other.

  • @rabit818
    @rabit818 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The truth is rarely pure and never simple - Oscar Wilde

    • @1974jrod
      @1974jrod 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quote from a truly confused man for its obvious he didn't have the true definition of truth.

  • @jamesroutledge9639
    @jamesroutledge9639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Intelligent people are more likely to skew data analytics and recommendation’s to align with their beliefs or convictions. That is why social papers need to be reviewed from a critical perspective. Opposite Political views need to be embraced for social cohesion in the review process. Even current social peer reviews demonstrate confirmation bias.

  • @rainraihan9681
    @rainraihan9681 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Starting to love this channel.

  • @michaelsanchez7798
    @michaelsanchez7798 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The moral of the story is to rely on an appeal to fear, instead of reason.

  • @uritibon17
    @uritibon17 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It's hard to tell now if my skepticism towards this lecture stems from my own prior convictions negating the facts presented or are valid arguments aginst some of these facts. I guess now is the time to check my beliefs against other sources...

    • @smithersandburns
      @smithersandburns 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The "fact" that you are questioning the accuracy of you own current thoughts shows at least some understanding of the subject object distinction which will prevent you from falling into the trap of the dunning kruger effect and being stuck in a world of ignorance through confirmation bias. Your mental toughness to not be in an emotional panic during times of uncertainty is key for your intelligence. So I concur with your thoughts. However I am of course not totally certain about that...

    • @dianedonohue9855
      @dianedonohue9855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will tell you, what she is saying is absolutely fact because I have tested these theories using different types of communication. Understanding this creates better conversations and relationships.
      I have had many people tell me that they could not ever discuss politics or religion with a person who opposes their views before.
      I have people calling me (who do not agree with my views) so they can discuss our differences. Sometimes it's very enjoyable, but other times it's quite a struggle. These techniques are pretty simple to understand but not easy to employ.

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are like me, you bristled against the this talk because she really tips her hat as to which side of the political spectrum she's on in the first few seconds, in a video that has the word "bias" right in the title. I guarantee every one of us would agree that if she votes, she's likely to vote left. In a talk about bias you should never, ever give this away. You should appear 100% neutral. She makes some good points in the talk but like me, you probably didn't like the fact she never once talked about reasonable skepticism stemming from hearing only one side of a debate. You will never get me to 100% buy in to anything at all if you only give me one side.

    • @waynedurning8717
      @waynedurning8717 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasondashney yep.

  • @DirtyPoul
    @DirtyPoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    3:35 - 3:54 This is a very interesting point. It shows that intelligence and rationality are completely separate. It reminds me of the Orthogonality Thesis in AI research. Intelligence in AI research simply refers to how effective an agent is to achieve its goals. It says nothing of how "intelligent" or stupid that goal may be. This fits well with this idea. An intelligent person is simply better at arguing their case, thus reaching their goal. Changing your goal is what's so difficult.

    • @AppleSauceGamingChannel
      @AppleSauceGamingChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not completely. If that were the case you could easily point out a living being that has ant level intelligence but is demonstrably able to use reason. But you can't, because they aren't.
      Were you trying to point out that intelligence and rationality aren't synonyms rather than separate, as in unrelated?

    • @DirtyPoul
      @DirtyPoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AppleSauceGamingChannel Good point. They are of course not completely unrelated.

    • @Puschit1
      @Puschit1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that's a bit exaggerated. An intelligent person is able to spin better, sure, but it wasn't said if he is doing this on purpose or subconsciously! Which is a big difference. I am pretty good ad this, you can give me any position and I can defend it, even switch sides in the middle of the discussion, but I still know the "truth" and if I am actively working against it or not. Of course I tend to stick to my beliefs, too, but when overwhelming evidence is presented, I relent. Deep down you just know.

    • @DirtyPoul
      @DirtyPoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Puschit1 But that's the whole point. You can be completely wrong and not realize it, continuing to argue against the evidence because deep down "you just know" that you're right. That's what's so dangerous.

    • @Puschit1
      @Puschit1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DirtyPoul Sure, but the video implies that intelligent people are more susceptible to this which I don't agree with. You need intelligence in the first place to get closer to the truth. You might fail like everyone else and you might be able to spin better but you don't run an overall greater risk. Just have a look at the US: More educated people tend to vote blue, lower intelligence tends to be attracted to MAGA. Interlectuals on both sides are equally able to spin everything according to their agenda but bet everything I have that most of these right wing interlectuals pretty much know what's going on. They just go with it because there is money and power to be grabbed.

  • @jaylambert2838
    @jaylambert2838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have solved this problem by not caring enough about anything to form a strong bias about it in the first place. Who knew apathy was a virtue?

  • @HASIJOMAGNETON
    @HASIJOMAGNETON 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Confirmation bias is a phenomenon that can affect anyone even those who are convinced they Are not biased

  • @Entropy4All
    @Entropy4All 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have this strange habit of simply ignoring and eliminating from my life, people who don't believe facts.

    • @gregshock
      @gregshock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts, or your facts? Are you sure about the difference?

  • @carlmalone4011
    @carlmalone4011 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Never argue with a coffee table.

  • @varasano
    @varasano 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This video defines "facts" as the logical fallacy, "appeal to authority".

    • @ScienceFan1859
      @ScienceFan1859 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      varasano na-ah

    • @edgbarra
      @edgbarra 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      More like appeal to cience I guess.

    • @applecore8978
      @applecore8978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Authority" as in the most logical conclusions agreed on by experts who considered all available evidence?
      Yeah, what do you define it as?
      Random opinion?

  • @markcredit6086
    @markcredit6086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This broad is a perfect example of what she's talking about

  • @iunnox666
    @iunnox666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Damn, making sure people think the right things sure sounds like tough work! Thank God they're doing all this research to solve the awful problem of independent thought!

    • @thegrigs777
      @thegrigs777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YES!! CNN:'Do your own research is bad

    • @gabrielmihai7856
      @gabrielmihai7856 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      :))))

    • @schmoborama
      @schmoborama 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      wow so “independent thought” = “fact-proof stupidity incapable of learning”... yea I think we agree on that, it’s been true for eveyone who whines ‘independent thought’.

    • @iunnox666
      @iunnox666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@schmoborama You're right, propaganda doesnt exist. Whatever programming the news puts out is the irrefutable cutting edge of knowledge and social discourse!

  • @IvanGarcia-cx5jm
    @IvanGarcia-cx5jm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Without correct initial axioms, I can have a huge complex sound and correct logic system giving me false results (Garbage in => garbage out). Hence we have to be careful having 100% faith in logic, specially when the axioms are shaky.

  • @umayr2935
    @umayr2935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just yesterday i argued with someone on secular vs religious state, my friend says that his "new interpretation" of religious state will work for sure, although previous ones failed, today i get recommended this video and it seems like a blessing.

  • @damoncolquhoun
    @damoncolquhoun 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, in short, what Aristotle figured out 2300 years ago is still correct. There are three ways to persuade someone: Logos, Ethos, and Pathos. Got it! Thanks!

  • @Mithrandir69
    @Mithrandir69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Our/my truth"
    This concept needs to be re-evaluated.

  • @agalah408
    @agalah408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Marge, there's an empty spot I've always had inside me. I tried to fill it with family, religion and community service but those were dead ends. I think this chair is the answer." Homer Simpson

  • @npaisfordummies2162
    @npaisfordummies2162 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This video has confirmed my bias

  • @jdavis6650
    @jdavis6650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My take based on your presentation--when the scientists mislead the subject, the subject uses critical reasoning.

    • @pf100andahalf
      @pf100andahalf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "the subject uses critical reasoning" usually with insufficient data.

  • @FNHot
    @FNHot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "The common motive" IE Appeal to emotion. They dont care about facts, but show what can happen to their kids if they dont, and suddenly they want to do it. You used emotion, in this case, fear, to change their minds.

    • @SteveWithers
      @SteveWithers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did the information result in fear? You're assuming a few things here......

    • @FNHot
      @FNHot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SteveWithers Am I? Showing someone that they could be exposing their kids to a horrible death via measles / polio. What emotion do you think that would evoke? joy? She's spinning it like just not talking about autism was the fix, when really it was terror and horror.
      I mean you want to see terror being used to convince people to get a needle, turn on the tv. It seems to work on MOST people.

  • @MorganBW53
    @MorganBW53 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for the insightful presentation.

  • @kukatahansa
    @kukatahansa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "People forgot what vaxines are for." I don't have enough faces or palms for this one.

    • @yomommashaus
      @yomommashaus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can lend some brisk palms if you need em

  • @craigsawyer6453
    @craigsawyer6453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not to sure about the reasoning on this one... Her argument was differed from what was presented. If you tell someone something they often modify it to conform to their belief set. I agree that facts alone don't often change the mind set of others. If you create a situation where people "feel" something that is suggested they are more likely to modify their original their belief set. When she said that they showed photos to people they then changed their minds about vaccines... what apparently happened was a situation where people could "feel" a bigger threat to wellbeing and a new awareness was created. Thus persuasion through feeling is more powerful than persuasion through fact. Or am I missing something?

  • @ThereIsNoSpoon678
    @ThereIsNoSpoon678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks TH-cam. I didn’t know where I was standing on my factual opinion of Climate Change. Thank you for sourcing Wikipedia your reference.

    • @wiscgaloot
      @wiscgaloot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      humans are causing the climate to change. That's a fact.

    • @ThereIsNoSpoon678
      @ThereIsNoSpoon678 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wiscgaloot I was making a joke.

  • @ubob3
    @ubob3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wonder if she would consider confronting her thoughts on climate change though ;-)

    • @MrSimondaniel3
      @MrSimondaniel3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      well she believes most scientists. who would be more knowledgeable than the majority of scientists worldwide?

    • @bilbobeutlin3405
      @bilbobeutlin3405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrSimondaniel3 fox news

  • @frededwards4904
    @frededwards4904 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting how the discussion morphed from changing opinions to changing behavior.

  • @geminus1688
    @geminus1688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is so relevant today. I always say: "Anything you believe in long enough and strong enough will become the truth to you whether it's true or not." It's important to keep an open mind. Inflation theory? I'm not buying it. 😁

  • @pensiveintrovert4318
    @pensiveintrovert4318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes, of course, lying to people and manipulating them works to get them to "yes." Every used car salesman knows it.
    One wonders if the speaker was careful to check her own preconceptions, and make certain her own "intelligence" is not leading her astray.

  • @y37chung
    @y37chung 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You dont expect old, uneducated, eccentric people to be able to read data

    • @QTEPYE
      @QTEPYE 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Our dear president, donald j. trump, likes his briefings giving only with pictures, videos and charts, and he will often interrupt the meetings with questions and unrelated asides - i.e., like his superior win in the 2016 elections:)

    • @marblegrimes7010
      @marblegrimes7010 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, I thought it was his staff who like that because it's the only way to get info across to him

    • @jessicacole8404
      @jessicacole8404 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm eccentric but I read data

    • @dontaylor7315
      @dontaylor7315 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jessicacole8404 I'm old but I seek out data and alter my beliefs accordingly too.

  • @BackwardTravisty
    @BackwardTravisty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Denial, minimization, and blame/counter accusation is a natural barrier to critical thinking.
    The 5 Steps to Critical Thinking:
    What is critical thinking?
    In general, critical thinking refers to actively questioning statements rather than blindly accepting them.
    Critical thinking results in radical free will.
    1. The critical thinker is flexible yet maintains an attitude of healthy skepticism.
    Critical thinkers are open to new information, ideas, and claims. They genuinely consider alternative explanations and possibilities. However, this open-mindedness is tempered by a healthy sense of skepticism (Hyman, 2007).
    The critical thinker consistently asks, “What evidence supports this claim?”
    2. The critical thinker scrutinizes the evidence before drawing conclusions.
    Critical thinkers strive to weigh all the available evidence before arriving at conclusions. And, in evaluating evidence, critical thinkers distinguish between empirical evidence versus opinions based on feelings or personal experience.
    3. The critical thinker can assume other perspectives.
    Critical thinkers are not imprisoned by their own points of view. Nor are they limited in their capacity to imagine life experiences and perspectives that are fundamentally different from their own. Rather, the critical thinker strives to understand and evaluate issues from many different angles.
    4. The critical thinker is aware of biases and assumptions.
    In evaluating evidence and ideas, critical thinkers strive to identify the biases and assumptions that are inherent in any argument (Riggio & Halpern, 2006). Critical thinkers also try to identify and minimize the influence of their own biases.
    5. The critical thinker engages in reflective thinking.
    Critical thinkers avoid knee-jerk responses. Instead, critical thinkers are reflective. Most complex issues are unlikely to have a simple solution. Therefore, critical thinkers resist the temptation to sidestep complexity by boiling an issue down to an either/or, yes/no kind of proposition. Instead, the critical thinker expects and accepts complexity (Halpern, 2007).
    Critical thinking is not a single skill, but rather a set of attitudes and thinking skills. As is true with any set of skills, you can get better at these skills with practice.
    In a nut shell, critical thinking is the active process of minimizing preconceptions and biases while evaluating evidence, determining the conclusions that can be reasonably be drawn from evidence, and considering alternative explanations for research findings or other phenomena.
    CRITICAL THINKING QUESTIONS
    >Why might other people want to discourage you from critical thinking?
    >In what situations is it probably most difficult or challenging for you to exercise critical thinking skills? Why?
    > What can you do or say to encourage others to use critical thinking in evaluating questionable claims or assertions?

  • @billkeon880
    @billkeon880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    “Our truth” has no real meaning.

    • @Mike__G
      @Mike__G 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it means that all truth is subjective. Therefore any one person’s opinion is as valid as anyone else’s. Apart from its manifest nonsense, this concept, if taken to its logical conclusion, would completely undermine scientific inquiry.

    • @Mike__G
      @Mike__G 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @WorldFlex then they have not been replicated.

    • @Mike__G
      @Mike__G 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @WorldFlex Right. The answers change but not the observed phenomena. Ever wonder why there’s no “maybe” key on a debit machine? I’ve always wondered why holding two contradictory statements to both be true doesn’t create cognitive dissonance in some people. I still can’t figure that one out.

    • @tomatojuice984
      @tomatojuice984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mike__G like working for everyone to get paid more while claiming you want to save the environment what do you think they'll buy with that money

  • @petertheobald9624
    @petertheobald9624 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I also think the phrase “scientists have found” has been so over used that people no longer trust it, especially with different conclusions tied to the a positive answer for the finder of the study.

    • @SK-le1gm
      @SK-le1gm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scientist = Satanist

    • @bkf8166
      @bkf8166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SK-le1gm Well, that's not true. God inspires scientists to produce the knowledge and technology that He wants.

    • @SK-le1gm
      @SK-le1gm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bkf8166 Well, depends on the “scientist”. Most of the ones you hear about these days are demons in scientist garb. Follow the money my friend. Peace.

    • @bkf8166
      @bkf8166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SK-le1gm Many are. And "follow the money" is THE word of the day.

    • @SK-le1gm
      @SK-le1gm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bkf8166 The devil is financing science. That is what I meant, to spell it out. The devil has funds. Bill Gates’ grandfather was the head of the Rockefeller foundation takeover of US medicine in the early 1900s. A good rabbit hole to investigate 🕳

  • @Ladygothii12
    @Ladygothii12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    The comments section to this video is really disappointing.

    • @s.flanders
      @s.flanders 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It always is. It's best not to bother.

    • @chris_stacey
      @chris_stacey 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Agreed. Rather than discuss the psychological implications of what's being presented most of these morons want to complain about "liberals". Feels like we're living in a George Orwell novel... :-(

    • @mohitchandnani2559
      @mohitchandnani2559 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Easily butthurt safe space advocate spotted ! 😂

    • @stlkngyomom
      @stlkngyomom 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Stacey Well,if yoy examine geopolitics(hydrogeopilics in particular:Gwynne Dyer,Sandra Postel,Guy McPherson,..)we are half-way there.
      And Orwell's final warning...

    • @danielmancillas5672
      @danielmancillas5672 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Stacey even worse

  • @vidhanp482
    @vidhanp482 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This reminds me of how they get people to evacuate from areas facing imminent disasters. Instead of arguing with the dissidents using facts such as wind speed of hurricanes for example, they simply told them to take a sharpie and write their name, number and other identification information on their arms and legs and their childrens' face, arms and legs. This implied that this info is clearly to identify their dead body. Also implied that the severity of the disaster is bad enough that only the head of their children maybe found. Instantly people agreed to evacuate.
    When the basis of trust/safety shifted from their own knowledge and hubris to a sharpie(which probably will wash away) they realised the fault in their paradigm. They instantly Identify the threat when the consequences affect things they care about the most. A middle ground is established. All resolutions needn't be morbid but, threatening people's family with real consequences is the best answer😂😂😂.

  • @briancoulter4308
    @briancoulter4308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    When the first words out of her mouth were, "So, most of us think that information is the best way to convince people of OUR truth," I suspected the subjective treatment of truth would find its way into her presentation. Naturally, every political issue she presented had a progressive bias, and worse, she suggested that people who disagree with the way those issues are framed don't belong to the smart set. So typical.

    • @Pfpfpfpfpf2020
      @Pfpfpfpfpf2020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're typical. In a bad way, if I'm being unclear.

    • @briancoulter4308
      @briancoulter4308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Pfpfpfpfpf2020 You don’t even know me. How do you know what’s typical of anyone without the benefit of foreknowledge? Sounds like prejudice to me.

    • @Pfpfpfpfpf2020
      @Pfpfpfpfpf2020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@briancoulter4308 Sounds like more pontificating.

    • @connorgrynol9021
      @connorgrynol9021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Subjective truth is the only real truth we can know. Human’s, by nature are emotional creatures. Even if you think you are a logical person who can objectively look at facts there are still several problems:
      - By believing you have an objective outlook you already have a confirmation bias regarding the information you take in.
      - Most of the information you will come across in life will be second hand. The nature of the scientific method is the ability for each individual to replicate an experiment so that they can observe and come to their own conclusions.
      - Even if you do an experiment or experience something for yourself other people have not, thus making your experience a subjective truth.
      There is an objective truth but we can never fully KNOW that truth,we can only BELIEVE that we are correct in our information.
      Besides, what the video is talking about is trying to get people who disagree on something to agree on it. Note that agree and disagree are defined by shared or differing opinions; and opinions are subjective.

    • @TheFreedomGypsy
      @TheFreedomGypsy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Took the words right out of my mouth, Brian.