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Richard Heart interview please (love the interviews and hearing your thought processes)! Regarding Richard Heart - (HEX \ Pulsechain \ pulseX) the world's largest airdrop, and the new fork of ethereum with the full system state application layer included! Richard is economically brilliant and very savvy with software and blockchain, he's a very interesting person in the crypto space and growing quickly. I'd love to hear your guys talk & exchange ideas! I think this new pulse chain fork will be incredibly impactful because it will allow blockchain projects and application layers to be built that do not have to provide a high yield to offset the gas costs. As it is things now like decentraland can no longer operate on ethereum because the gas fees have made the application unusable on ethereum. Only banking type applications with a high yield makes sense on ethereum anymore, pulse chain solves this as well as a large degree of the scaling issues
Haha. I was looking for this exact comment. Saylor is great, but he loves going on about comparisons, anecdotes, etc and loses focus on valuable concrete dialogue.
This isn't a debate or a casual conversation. This is Michael Saylor being interviewed by Raoul on his channel. The purpose of this was to listen to Michael's insights as he is the one being interviewed.
@@kha_2428 This is just Saylor blowing his latest lungful of hot air into the Bitcoin bubble. It's the host's job to let him blather. Every minute of Saylor's pitch could potentially attract thousands of investor dollars.
I love how he tries to explain in a nice way to Raoul why proof of stake tokens can’t persist in a transparent fashion by complying with securities laws…because they are actually intended to deceive people
I love both of these guys and their knowledge! I especially love how Saylor asks questions, then answers them himself. The man knows how to prove a point 👍👍
I love Saylor, but I think at times he really misses to make a point for a given question. He loves to talk about the same examples over and over again. I think it would help a lot if he first answers the question and then give examples afterwards, people drift away otherwise. I've seen pretty much every interview of Saylor out there, but it's always the same. Also it seems to me that nobody actually has the guts to interrupt Saylor to tell him to get to the point of the question.
Also, Saylor has a vested interest in downplaying other cryptos and propping up bitcoin. He says bitcoin is unique, to which I disagree. It’s a technology that can be duplicated to infinity. It is solely reliant on the network effect where the majority of crypto users agree to use this blockchain versus another copy of it.
Saylor got me really hooked early in Bitcoin, but he doesn't fully understand cryptography. He repeats the same thing over and over and quite frankly it's really boring. I get it, it's a pristine asset. Let's learn something new.
I wonder when Michael saylor will allow someone to interview him other than himself. (Not complaining but this titles should be " Raul Paul listens to Michael saylor speak"
He is a liar who misrepresents Bitcoin implying it has never been changed. Also he wants to throw Ethereum under the bus because he doesn't like competition.
@@kha_2428 Explain why? Because it had a crowd sale and not only mining at its creation? In my mind that just makes it more diversified and decentralized, not so held hostage by miners.
@@cainejackson8003Minor setback for a major comeback. The heavy hitters of america are shaking in their boots when they see $MSTR. Bad day to not be Michael Saylor.
Thanks to you Raoul, I started investing in crypto last year. You are so relatable and likeable! And, thank you for bringing amazing content with these kind of interviews with the greatest minds in the space (that includes you Raoul). They really help give us confidence that this is the right play for what is to come in the not-too-distant future. Given that you aired this gem on Real Vision in September but have just released it to TH-cam now, I really should sign up to Real Vision! Appreciated. Oh, and Mr Michael Saylor - you are brilliant - love you man!
Really great job Raoul. Michael clearly misses the point on securities law. Thinking that Gary Gensler is the smartest guy on securities law is nonsense. The point is Gary has not given any clarity on what is a security. " The commission has refused, despite many pleas over many years, to provide regulatory guidance about how our rules apply to crypto-assets, so some of the responsibility for the lack of LEGAL and Regulatory clarity lies at our doorstep" Hester Peirce US SEC commissioner. Figured Michael might like, since he likes to quote people from the SEC
Im happy to see that somebody else spotted this too. I respect and appreciate Michael Saylor alot, but i do feel that this was the only one point that he was incorrect on and im glad that Raul Pal picked up on it. Firstly, XRP does not pass the Howey test and all sectors/brokerages agree apart from the SEC. That point aside, Its not purely about wether it is a security or not. Like Raul Pal mentioned, its a new thing that definitely requires a new framework. The real problems in the SEC/XRP case came in when they granted Ethereum a free pass, even though Ethereum is closer to a security than XRP is, and also the corruption happening within the SEC around this. Well spotted.
Gensler doesn't need to give clarity. The law on securities is written for all to see in black and white. Don't understand the law? Get a commercial lawyer.
I know. Smh. Raoul is super greedy. He wants you to go to real vision website and subscribe and pay for their content. He’s not happy making TH-cam money only… such a shame.
There is a creepy PUPPET on the bottom left part of the screen during the intro at 0:00. Slowdown the video at the first second. What is that about Real Vision? subliminal message?
So sell all my alt coins. Only buy bitcoin. Only buy through a regulated third party like Microstrategy. I am glad he is not a biased source. I know many are. I get it. He may be a visionary but when someone has all their livelihood and reputation tied to one thing, regardless of what it is, they get tunnel vision and can’t walk back what they have said. Wish him, and all investors, the best of luck. Walk your own path.
I've wasted many hours on TH-cam... This wasn't one of those hours.. but it wasn't an easy listen . Most of us know the Sailor stand-piont and agree to some degree..
There are trade offs. If you want decentralization, use the base layer, if you want fast and cheep transaction use lightning. It's ultimately your choice. Duh
saylor has so much riding on btc that i can't take his opinions of alt coins seriously. He is the king of btc shilling while at the same time being the king of alt fud.
Saylor no longer states why Bitcoin will win on its own. He now describes it as superior long term because it will survive regulatory fall out. Bitcoiners cheering on the SEC
Awesome, combine this with their first interview and you have 3 hours of raw genius providing wisdom and insight into the crypto space. I suspect that Saylor is correct when he says that it will be difficult for the altcoins to survive SEC registration requirements.
Surely bitcoin isn't itself energy, rather it is the trace left from expended energy. It can be used as money, in which case you have the power to command the expending of more energy by someone else, but that will be different energy from the original energy. I don't get Saylor's explanation of this.
I agree more with Raoul about SEC and securities laws and much less with Michael on that... any unregistered fundraising should be fine as long as there is a disclaimer that says that it is not registered with the SEC and all other risk elements are fully disclosed... just like nutritional supplements and the FDA... I do not want SEC registered instruments...I want decentralized... DYOR rules.
Bitcoin doesn't have smart contracts to enable defi networks. It's very rudimentary and has a higher level of security. The biggest issue is that overtime with the PoW mining, it becomes more vertical and actually more centralized. I still own some, but there isn't really much you can do with it. Its always the same metric. Price. Other projects have different things their doing other than fiat exchange prices.
I would like to see him explain how to convert energy to bitcoin when all the Bitcoin is mined and I would like to see him explain how to convert Bitcoin back to energy (other than buying electricity)
1:11:36 “let’s say you have to register. What is the issue” I’ll tell you what the issue is RAOUL. It means all the insiders at the ETH Foundation have to disclose who owns what shares of ETH & when they are making big trades. Then, everyone finds out how centralized it is & how much it’s actually controlled by 3-4 major holders & 2-3 major exchanges. Everyone gets to see when they are making trades (of both their unearned bitcoin & ETH tokens) & when they are manipulating the price to create the illusion of it competing with bitcoin (as they extract value from the small fish ETH fans). This is essentially what Michael was trying say in a NICE WAY: They can’t persist in an ethical / transparent manner because they a deceptive by their very nature & design.
I'm just a semi-retired regular guy. You two are the most brilliant in this space and I encourage my kids, regularly, to listen to you both. Personally, for what I believe will be a remarkable short term winner, I hold XRP.
Saylor is a great asset to Bitcoin, but he's starting to look more and more like a one-trick poney. Every interview, all he does is repeat the exact same analogies over and over again. He's gotten so used to repeating himself that he sometimes does it even within the same conversation. He should just put an audiobook out with his greatest hits and stop giving interviews altogether.
Saylor did such a great job intellectually and ethically besting Raoul here who was trying to redirect the conversation to DeFi and altcoins. Raoul *is* the unethical promoter that Saylor was taking about.
You too men are so brilliant love this interview I could listen to you all for hours and I do 🥰 thank you for opening up and teaching us I would have never known
But all of his commentary is based off the exchange rate to dollars 💵 🤷🏻♂️. You can trade bitcoin for nothing but dollars. Truth be told all these BTC holders are excited about potential “DOLLARS”. Also it’s odd to me when he speaks of BTC as if it’s physics. All trades, currency, commodities, goods, service etc. require supply and demand. That leaves an enormous amount of uncertainty of all said assets. We do know this though. There is “X” amount of dollar denominated debt thus creating “X” amount of dollar denominated demand. My dos pesos worth every cent.
@@nickwilson9126 he will never exchange his precious/perfect btc for dollars, but if someone needs dollars they can always use their btc as collateral for a tax free loan 😉
@@nickwilson9126 I’m literally doing it right now- and I bought more bitcoin- I’ll pay the loan off and Bitcoin will increase to cover. Bitcoin is the future- to all the people who have negative things to say… Then don’t buy it -just walk away and live the way you’ve been living -in debt and making .01% from the banks and paying 32% interest on your credit cards… If you if you don’t like it -don’t buy it -more for me
That’s what I thought too - Masterworks tokenizes Picassos - however that’s basically what Saylor is saying with the energy argument just replace energy with art. Second time I’ve heard the energy argument- first time was on Dr Peterson’s podcast and I was mind blown bc it flips the entire narrative on its head. Super glad to hear Saylor pick it up and promote it bc now it will finally get the exposure it deserves. I’m sure the likes of Liz Warren will ignore it is they can.
Michael Saylor should have invested in XRP which takes seconds for transactions, instead of 10 minutes for slow Bitcoin. XRP is far superior to Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is a scam. Bitcoin in my opinion was designed to stop people accumulating real money. Physical gold and silver, which are both manipulated but that manipulation will end.
I am a massive Bitcoin bull. 70% of my net worth is allocated towards it. I am also in real estate. I have a hard time agreeing with their perspective in saying how much better Bitcoin is than purchasing real estate to rent out. I’m in the business, I understand how difficult it is. Dealing with tenants, local municipalities, maintenance etc and would much rather just own Bitcoin and not do real estate. Like Raoul said, Bitcoin takes no effort whereas real estate is a lot of effort. But there is one massive difference between the two assets. One cash flows (if done right and with some luck) and one does not (Bitcoin). I would argue cash follow or yield is more important than appreciation. How can you use Bitcoin to yield income ?
You should look into HEX. It's actually better designed and gives yield for staking it without counterparty risk. You hold the keys. It's immutable code.
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Outdated video.. but thanks.
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Richard Heart interview please (love the interviews and hearing your thought processes)! Regarding Richard Heart - (HEX \ Pulsechain \ pulseX) the world's largest airdrop, and the new fork of ethereum with the full system state application layer included! Richard is economically brilliant and very savvy with software and blockchain, he's a very interesting person in the crypto space and growing quickly. I'd love to hear your guys talk & exchange ideas! I think this new pulse chain fork will be incredibly impactful because it will allow blockchain projects and application layers to be built that do not have to provide a high yield to offset the gas costs. As it is things now like decentraland can no longer operate on ethereum because the gas fees have made the application unusable on ethereum. Only banking type applications with a high yield makes sense on ethereum anymore, pulse chain solves this as well as a large degree of the scaling issues
Every time I listen to Saylor I buy more Btc
@@kammi2590 try listening to Richard Heart as well :)
Intellectually stimulating listening to Raoul and Michael. But, you've got to say Mr Saylor is probably the greatest salesman in today's world.
Bitcoin sells itself!
They should just call this the Saylor monologues.
But you have to agree, its awesome!
Man can monologue... and it's glorious
Haha. I was looking for this exact comment. Saylor is great, but he loves going on about comparisons, anecdotes, etc and loses focus on valuable concrete dialogue.
@@mattyvern I love him and appreciate him, but I do think he might be a bit autistic
@@TheDevilMethod "Bitcoin is a de materialized hotel operating at a higher energy frequency." Yeah yeah! DAT makes sense!
Wow. 33 minutes in and Raoul has said 10 words. Seen one Saylor interview, you have seen them all.
Frustrating when you would like more info, but brilliant politically because he continues to try and get that info out.
This isn't a debate or a casual conversation. This is Michael Saylor being interviewed by Raoul on his channel. The purpose of this was to listen to Michael's insights as he is the one being interviewed.
@@kha_2428 This is just Saylor blowing his latest lungful of hot air into the Bitcoin bubble. It's the host's job to let him blather. Every minute of Saylor's pitch could potentially attract thousands of investor dollars.
Agreed. Unless they change bitcoin to proof of stake how does it survive?
@@caseymorton2912 Wow, how does that compute?
I love watching Michael Saylor interview Michael Saylor
Don’t believe everything they say.
@@SuperSte32
the joke
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@@deepfriedcherrypie5366 😂😂😂😉
@@deepfriedcherrypie5366 - Easily manipulated by the pumpers.
Class 🤣🤣
Raoul: "Hi, Michael."
Raoul 90 minutes later "Thanks for coming on today, Michael."
Haha
The reason Saylor keeps repeating his points and view of Bitcoin is because it is true and most people do not understand it. Absolutely brilliant.
DILLYDILLY. Well stated. We recall 10%, ..so hearg overandover is needed.
I love how he tries to explain in a nice way to Raoul why proof of stake tokens can’t persist in a transparent fashion by complying with securities laws…because they are actually intended to deceive people
I love the way he uses common language stories and his abilities to use many metaphors to explain crypto
Raoul great job! Just let Saylor talk, awesome interview 👏👏👏
I love both of these guys and their knowledge! I especially love how Saylor asks questions, then answers them himself. The man knows how to prove a point 👍👍
I love Saylor, but I think at times he really misses to make a point for a given question. He loves to talk about the same examples over and over again. I think it would help a lot if he first answers the question and then give examples afterwards, people drift away otherwise. I've seen pretty much every interview of Saylor out there, but it's always the same. Also it seems to me that nobody actually has the guts to interrupt Saylor to tell him to get to the point of the question.
Yes. While i agree with his philosophy to an extent, I think he has a brain mouth filter issue and some ADHD tendancies
Also, Saylor has a vested interest in downplaying other cryptos and propping up bitcoin. He says bitcoin is unique, to which I disagree. It’s a technology that can be duplicated to infinity. It is solely reliant on the network effect where the majority of crypto users agree to use this blockchain versus another copy of it.
Saylor got me really hooked early in Bitcoin, but he doesn't fully understand cryptography.
He repeats the same thing over and over and quite frankly it's really boring.
I get it, it's a pristine asset. Let's learn something new.
@@dsports4753Saylor got you hooked early? He himself didn't get into Bitcoin until 2020, you call that early? 😅
@@pamorim01 🤦♂️ I've 4xd in 2 years. And for something that's not done mining until well in late 21st century then you're missing the point.
So nourishing to listen to a grand pair of forward thinking Gentlemen, grateful indeed I am to learn from you both always.
I wonder when Michael saylor will allow someone to interview him other than himself. (Not complaining but this titles should be " Raul Paul listens to Michael saylor speak"
Raoul jaw dropped when he realized he’s selling securities 🤣
Please put air date in the titles - this is September 2021 (6mo ago)
It's listed top left on the entire video..
Michael Saylor has a more informed and insightful outlook than anybody in the space.
His vision for the space amazes me.
He is a liar who misrepresents Bitcoin implying it has never been changed. Also he wants to throw Ethereum under the bus because he doesn't like competition.
@@davycrockett8886 Ethereum is a centralized Sh**coin.... We don't need Michael Saylor to figure that one out
@@kha_2428 Explain why? Because it had a crowd sale and not only mining at its creation? In my mind that just makes it more diversified and decentralized, not so held hostage by miners.
@@kha_2428 By the way Satoshi owns about 20x more of the total of BTC than Vitalik owns of ETH. BTC is what you call a centralized $%^&coin.
This is an old Interview, but I’m glad they finally posted on the TH-cam website. Two geniuses trying to save the masses
How old?
Mike got smoked -22% in the last yr 😳. During this he mentions "there's nobody who thinks btc won't go up 6% in a year" opps...
At least one genius. Raoul.
@@cainejackson8003Minor setback for a major comeback. The heavy hitters of america are shaking in their boots when they see $MSTR. Bad day to not be Michael Saylor.
@@cainejackson8003this didn't age well..he's up billions.
Thanks to you Raoul, I started investing in crypto last year. You are so relatable and likeable! And, thank you for bringing amazing content with these kind of interviews with the greatest minds in the space (that includes you Raoul). They really help give us confidence that this is the right play for what is to come in the not-too-distant future. Given that you aired this gem on Real Vision in September but have just released it to TH-cam now, I really should sign up to Real Vision! Appreciated. Oh, and Mr Michael Saylor - you are brilliant - love you man!
Saylor is like a T-800 when he gets on the topic of Bitcoin its beautiful.
My two favorite guys!! 😻😻
OH MY GOSH! Two geniuses in one stream...THANK YOU!
List the original date 🤦🏼♂️
Wow, the whole energy/property thesis blew my mind. I'd only heard arguments for BTC as currency. Very enlightening. Thanks Raoul and Michael!
Thanks, guys. Great discussion and can’t thank you enough for continuing to drive the BTC conversation forward. Much thanks from Melbourne, Australia.
I think I saw this Interview on September last year..or sounds pretty close the same.
Two legends breaking down for the PEOPLE!!!!! Raul & Michael 🤯
Really great job Raoul. Michael clearly misses the point on securities law. Thinking that Gary Gensler is the smartest guy on securities law is nonsense. The point is Gary has not given any clarity on what is a security. " The commission has refused, despite many pleas over many years, to provide regulatory guidance about how our rules apply to crypto-assets, so some of the responsibility for the lack of LEGAL and Regulatory clarity lies at our doorstep" Hester Peirce US SEC commissioner. Figured Michael might like, since he likes to quote people from the SEC
Im happy to see that somebody else spotted this too. I respect and appreciate Michael Saylor alot, but i do feel that this was the only one point that he was incorrect on and im glad that Raul Pal picked up on it. Firstly, XRP does not pass the Howey test and all sectors/brokerages agree apart from the SEC. That point aside, Its not purely about wether it is a security or not. Like Raul Pal mentioned, its a new thing that definitely requires a new framework. The real problems in the SEC/XRP case came in when they granted Ethereum a free pass, even though Ethereum is closer to a security than XRP is, and also the corruption happening within the SEC around this. Well spotted.
Gensler doesn't need to give clarity. The law on securities is written for all to see in black and white.
Don't understand the law? Get a commercial lawyer.
@@AnotherAnonymousFag Yes, and XRP is still not a security by the SEC's own definition.
Is this really from 6/7 months ago and just getting released?
new money for old rope
I know. Smh. Raoul is super greedy. He wants you to go to real vision website and subscribe and pay for their content. He’s not happy making TH-cam money only… such a shame.
Takin us to school... Thank you Michael!
There is a creepy PUPPET on the bottom left part of the screen during the intro at 0:00. Slowdown the video at the first second. What is that about Real Vision? subliminal message?
Just here for Michael Saylor
Because you believe everything he says.
Saylor (layer 1) and Raul (layer 2) fighting it out :) Thanks for uploading this fine piece of content
I thought this was brilliant! Thank you for this great insight from Raoul and Michael!!
saylor is on a different level, what else would you expect from a rocket scientist
So sell all my alt coins. Only buy bitcoin. Only buy through a regulated third party like Microstrategy. I am glad he is not a biased source. I know many are. I get it. He may be a visionary but when someone has all their livelihood and reputation tied to one thing, regardless of what it is, they get tunnel vision and can’t walk back what they have said. Wish him, and all investors, the best of luck. Walk your own path.
Saylor has aged like a president since getting into Bitcoin
what stops someone from making a DEX thats nonprofit so it doesnt have to be regulated by securities laws?
facts
Saylor is just a maximalist. What surprises me the most is how he praises Gensler which is clearly as currupt as it gets.
right!!!
This is from September 15th!
I've wasted many hours on TH-cam... This wasn't one of those hours.. but it wasn't an easy listen . Most of us know the Sailor stand-piont and agree to some degree..
This interview is 6 months old, why is it being released as a new video?!
BTC isn’t up 6% on the year. It’s -23% on the year according to Coinbase.
Why is BTC hard to tax? Didn't India just implement a 30% tax on BTC?
Ask 1 question! Mr. Saylor talks for days! Love it?
He is self obsessed.
Is Michael Saylor calling for the end of DEFI and increased regulation to help bolster his BTC holdings?
I know. I think he is part of the club who wants to co-opt BTC. Monero. BTC is traceable/trackable and not fungible.
Where are the headquarters for bitcoin and who owns it? Are they registered with the sec
It says the air date was Sept of 2021.
Isn’t the lightning network fully centralized? If so, using it would negate the decentralized properties of bitcoin.
There are trade offs. If you want decentralization, use the base layer, if you want fast and cheep transaction use lightning. It's ultimately your choice. Duh
Bitcoin is not decentralized.
@@SuperSte32 how is it not decentralized?
1:09:50 - the moment Raoul discovers securities law is priceless
How much collective Kool Aide will the sheep drink? Tether. Evergrande. Nuff said.
Well, it seems like nations and governments are taking it seriously...
saylor has so much riding on btc that i can't take his opinions of alt coins seriously. He is the king of btc shilling while at the same time being the king of alt fud.
Why is this being posted again when it aired 9-24-2021? Please get these 2 together again for an updated interview. This is outdated
Saylor no longer states why Bitcoin will win on its own. He now describes it as superior long term because it will survive regulatory fall out. Bitcoiners cheering on the SEC
Great job guys 👏
Awesome, combine this with their first interview and you have 3 hours of raw genius providing wisdom and insight into the crypto space. I suspect that Saylor is correct when he says that it will be difficult for the altcoins to survive SEC registration requirements.
Please have him on with you more often Raoul . First time I’ve ever seen Micheal smile 😀
SEC is US only. There is a big wide world outside the US. So depends how other countries class what is and isn't a security
Surely bitcoin isn't itself energy, rather it is the trace left from expended energy. It can be used as money, in which case you have the power to command the expending of more energy by someone else, but that will be different energy from the original energy. I don't get Saylor's explanation of this.
I agree more with Raoul about SEC and securities laws and much less with Michael on that... any unregistered fundraising should be fine as long as there is a disclaimer that says that it is not registered with the SEC and all other risk elements are fully disclosed... just like nutritional supplements and the FDA... I do not want SEC registered instruments...I want decentralized... DYOR rules.
It took 7 months to post this? I'm confused...
What are we all thinking about XRP post-courtcase?
Now that's what I wanted him to commit on
Raoul doesn't understand the difference between an unregistered security and a registered security.
I love it! Great job
I'm interested to hear how yield farming on the lightning network works, I can't find anything other then on altcoins
Bitcoin doesn't have smart contracts to enable defi networks. It's very rudimentary and has a higher level of security. The biggest issue is that overtime with the PoW mining, it becomes more vertical and actually more centralized.
I still own some, but there isn't really much you can do with it. Its always the same metric. Price.
Other projects have different things their doing other than fiat exchange prices.
My two most favorite people in the world when it comes to Bitcoin
There is no energy stored in bitcoin - Michael always takes his analogies too far. Like the cyberhornet BS.
Thermodynamically sound, rooted in the firmament of the universe.
I would like to see him explain how to convert energy to bitcoin when all the Bitcoin is mined and I would like to see him explain how to convert Bitcoin back to energy (other than buying electricity)
His assumptions will crush his career
Value is stored. Value is also money. Money is energy
Such nonsense, so is the idea Bitcoin can use green energy currently is a nonsense idea.
Most people do not understand what bitcoin is yet, when the penny drops it may be too late. It will put wealth in many hands that wouldn't have much.
Why upload a video from 15th September 2021? It confuses the viewers.
1:11:36 “let’s say you have to register. What is the issue”
I’ll tell you what the issue is RAOUL. It means all the insiders at the ETH Foundation have to disclose who owns what shares of ETH & when they are making big trades. Then, everyone finds out how centralized it is & how much it’s actually controlled by 3-4 major holders & 2-3 major exchanges. Everyone gets to see when they are making trades (of both their unearned bitcoin & ETH tokens) & when they are manipulating the price to create the illusion of it competing with bitcoin (as they extract value from the small fish ETH fans). This is essentially what Michael was trying say in a NICE WAY: They can’t persist in an ethical / transparent manner because they a deceptive by their very nature & design.
Michael is great - btc only! There is no second best!
Great due..My respect.
I'm just a semi-retired regular guy. You two are the most brilliant in this space and I encourage my kids, regularly, to listen to you both. Personally, for what I believe will be a remarkable short term winner, I hold XRP.
Raul what make you think that this network won't decompose?
Zoltan Pozsar would make for an interesting interview. Especially because what is going on in the commodities market.
Great job Raul!
Thank you Michael
Great Video ....please give us more full Videos like this.THX Real Vision thx Roul for Real Vision:-)
Amazing, thank you.
Sounds like a true elite. Sailor thinks the rest of us don't know to do research. I've never bought a coin from a celebrity's recommendation.
Remember people, we’re still early 😎
WAGMI
Saylor is a great asset to Bitcoin, but he's starting to look more and more like a one-trick poney. Every interview, all he does is repeat the exact same analogies over and over again. He's gotten so used to repeating himself that he sometimes does it even within the same conversation. He should just put an audiobook out with his greatest hits and stop giving interviews altogether.
Stable Kwon - Luna will be at the top of that list in 3 years. 01:22
Wow what a interview
digitalization of energy?
Bitcoin is not decentralized. People need to do some research and not believe everything they are told.
Very excited for this
How soon before you two collaborate again?!!
If Bitcoin is digital Property, when can I do a 10-31 exchange for my rental property
play at 0.25 speed and start from 0:00 - Has that always been there? lol
Saylor did such a great job intellectually and ethically besting Raoul here who was trying to redirect the conversation to DeFi and altcoins. Raoul *is* the unethical promoter that Saylor was taking about.
Saylor knows Bitcoin has already won one race, and it’s irrelevant to him what wins the other race.
Best comment, it’s clear most people don’t understand what happens in this interview…Raoul does..even if he won’t admit it out loud.
You too men are so brilliant love this interview I could listen to you all for hours and I do 🥰 thank you for opening up and teaching us I would have never known
Oh my gosh. Captain Sailor is sooo clever. His mind is just like so BIIIG :-)
Educated investors aquire btc to get away from dollars not gain more lol invest like Michael saylor or live with regrets forever 😉
But all of his commentary is based off the exchange rate to dollars 💵 🤷🏻♂️. You can trade bitcoin for nothing but dollars. Truth be told all these BTC holders are excited about potential “DOLLARS”. Also it’s odd to me when he speaks of BTC as if it’s physics. All trades, currency, commodities, goods, service etc. require supply and demand. That leaves an enormous amount of uncertainty of all said assets. We do know this though. There is “X” amount of dollar denominated debt thus creating “X” amount of dollar denominated demand. My dos pesos worth every cent.
@@nickwilson9126 he will never exchange his precious/perfect btc for dollars, but if someone needs dollars they can always use their btc as collateral for a tax free loan 😉
@@tjmooney4181 Can you use BTC for loan collateral?
@@nickwilson9126 yes tax free
@@nickwilson9126 I’m literally doing it right now- and I bought more bitcoin- I’ll pay the loan off and Bitcoin will increase to cover. Bitcoin is the future- to all the people who have negative things to say… Then don’t buy it -just walk away and live the way you’ve been living -in debt and making .01% from the banks and paying 32% interest on your credit cards… If you if you don’t like it -don’t buy it -more for me
Maybe u ought to state this is a reupload….
the Picasso analogy - with collection arts, we can actually share ownership of these collections through the their NFTs - ie fragmentation of the NFT
That’s what I thought too - Masterworks tokenizes Picassos - however that’s basically what Saylor is saying with the energy argument just replace energy with art.
Second time I’ve heard the energy argument- first time was on Dr Peterson’s podcast and I was mind blown bc it flips the entire narrative on its head. Super glad to hear Saylor pick it up and promote it bc now it will finally get the exposure it deserves. I’m sure the likes of Liz Warren will ignore it is they can.
Love you Raoul, you have a great way of explaining stuff! Eth is underperforming today compared to BTC, why aren’t you filling up with SOL?
You need to listen to Saylor more & listen to Raoul less
Michael Saylor should have invested in XRP which takes seconds for transactions, instead of 10 minutes for slow Bitcoin. XRP is far superior to Bitcoin.
Thanks so very much. Important stuff to wrap one's mind around.
Michael Saylor just likes talking big and promoting his interests.
Bitcoin is a scam. Bitcoin in my opinion was designed to stop people accumulating real money. Physical gold and silver, which are both manipulated but that manipulation will end.
I am a massive Bitcoin bull. 70% of my net worth is allocated towards it. I am also in real estate. I have a hard time agreeing with their perspective in saying how much better Bitcoin is than purchasing real estate to rent out. I’m in the business, I understand how difficult it is. Dealing with tenants, local municipalities, maintenance etc and would much rather just own Bitcoin and not do real estate. Like Raoul said, Bitcoin takes no effort whereas real estate is a lot of effort. But there is one massive difference between the two assets. One cash flows (if done right and with some luck) and one does not (Bitcoin). I would argue cash follow or yield is more important than appreciation. How can you use Bitcoin to yield income ?
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You should look into HEX. It's actually better designed and gives yield for staking it without counterparty risk. You hold the keys. It's immutable code.
@@jediyoda Why would anyone look into HEX?
Awesome stuff!
"Bitcoin's not gonna spring a leak" Statement of the week lol.