Sorry to hear. I've been hiking in Altra Lone Peaks for 8 years and love them. Will give the seven's a try before I give up on them. Can't imagine using anything else.
Topo pursuits are very similar feeling to the altras. They have a bit more arch support. Toe space is amazing and they are zero drop. The foam sole is around the thickness of the timps.
The 7 is trash. The tread.is nice but everything else about it sucks. They fell apart within my first 3 runs. My 6s have been used In multiple ultras countless trail runs to the point the tread is non existent. Now they are my work shoe because they are still comfy as shit. They need to give us the 6 with the 7 tread
Agree. Altra made their name with wide well drained and ventilated shoes. Every second version they make big changes. Usually to narrower and less ventilated. Everyone complains so they then change them back. They've been doing this since the 3.5's, when I first tried them. I also tried some waterproof 4.0's that had loose heels. The 3.5's were much better. The fours had those same awkward lacing eyelets that have reappeared in the 7's, but not that bizarre red foot arch compressor band thank goodness. The 4.5's were great, but wore out fast. With the 5's they replaced most of the ventilation with lots of painted on dots to fool you into buying them and introduced a new narrower size, that they called regular then relabelled the regulars as wide. And stopped having point 5 versions. I found some more 4.5's to buy. The 6's were wide and well ventilated and now the 7's are actually longer than the 6's . My 7's are the same length as my new 12.5 6's. But the 7's are narrower. They keep doing the opposite of what their customer want. They did the same thing with the Timps. 1.5's good, 2's narrower tighter. Similar pattern with the Olympus. Latest Olympus has this goofy giant pull tab that puts a crease down the middle of the heel and makes it feel loose. When it's not rubbing on your Achilles. I get the impression that there is some sort of internal dispute going on at Altra. Skinny feet vs wide feet. I've ordered up some topo pursuits.
Everyone keeps saying the LP7 is more narrow... I think they mean the toe box came in slightly. The midfoot is either slightly wider on LP7 or the fabric on top is more forgiving which does not squeeze my midfoot as much. I tested a few different LP6 and LP7 to confirm this and the LP7 is definitely the winner for midfoot width comfort. Overall feels like a much better shoe. Glad I didn't listen to the masses.
I concur with your assessment of the 6 vs 7. I’ve hiked over 100 miles in my 6s and tried 7s because they’re on sale. I couldn’t wear them and returned immediately. I need the wide toe box and was disappointed with the changes made to the 7. I just bought a pair of 8s and hope they will fit like the 6s. Thanks for your review.
If you're going the way of max cushion with the Speedgoats, you could also consider the New Balance Trail More v3 and the Topo Ultraventure 3. Both also offer Vibram outsoles and are available in wide, which I recently purchased to accommodate my neanderthal feet. For reference, the Lone Peak 6 in wide was still too narrow for me in the midfoot, as well as all other current Altra trail runners. Me, fit into HOKAs...fuggetaboutit. I rotate the Pursuit (0mm drop), Trail More v3 (4mm drop), and Ultraventure 3 (5mm drop) depending on the type of hike or trail run. The Ultraventure 3 feels similar to the Pursuit in the arch though, so you may feel that little "bump" if you have low-ish arches.
I hike where it is full of a lot of small rocks and pebbles. Unfortunately, while the shoes are comfy, no moreso than others TBH, they pick up a lot of stones which end up in the shoe. So they are relegated to less gravelly (if that's a word), more dirt oriented hikes. I will say my fav is the brown on brown Merrells. They just work everywhere and are more comfy than all the others. Note, I'm talking hiking here.
I tried the Hoka Speedboat 5 and had to return them. I love the cushioning but the forefoot is too wide for me. It gave me blisters. Thanks for creating these awesome videos!
I love my brooks trail runners. The Cascadias took me through the Sierras last summer. I also love the Calderas. I stopped wearing Altas many years ago when they changed then 7 years ago.
Nice, thanks, yea I used to hike in those years ago but moved away for some reason that I forgot about already - I'll give them another shot this summer - so far I've been using these and they're basically LPs but better: bit.ly/3pmMVWS
I've been using the Ultraventure Pros for just over 2 years. I'm just about to buy my third pair. Very good shoes. I've used them on the LCT and clambering over the rocks along the impassible zones was very confidence inspiring.
I've run 231 miles in my Lone Peak 7's so far and must confess that they're my current personal favourite shoe. They have a stack height of a lowish 25 mm yet in my opinion give a Goldilocks level of *just right* cushioning whether I'm using them for roads or trail runs. I haven't had the pleasure of sampling earlier iterations of the Lone Peak model so can't make comparisons. A justifiable criticism of the shoe is that the uppers lack durability. My pair have developed holes in the thin materialed uppers where they meet the rubberized looking toe box reinforcement material. I'm not sure if interaction with sharp twigs on trails have caused this damage or the uppers have spontaneously broken down, but I would identify this upper material fragility as a weakness of the shoe. However, the holes haven't affected the comfort or usability of my pair so far and I'm probably going to continue using them until they are no longer viable and need consigning to a non-recyclable deposition facility where all or most athletic shoes end up, sadly. 😢
I just finished the TA in NZ and this year soo many people had issues with the all of the grip falling off the bottom of their Hokas, and having to return them for replacements.
Não duram nada, apesar de muito confortáveis. Prefiro o trabuco 11 da asics, mais proteção na parte superior, mais segurança no grip e muito mais durável Também encomendei o LP 7, mas ainda não chegou
I found these nowhere near as close to as narrow as any Hoka. I would recommend the Olympus 5 they’re absolutely perfect feel like a slipper and nimble for the amount of stack. Love them.
I gave up on Hoka's a long time ago due to quality issues. Never got on the train with zero drops. Just switched to Topo Athletic due to wide footbox and love them. Another trail runner I heard good things about are the Brooks Cascadia. Maybe worth trying out?
I was a die hard cascadia fan for several years, but they switched factories and all their quality control went away. They have great lugs, but the toe box just kept getting weirder and weirder in a way I can only describe as "slappy".
I’m just getting into Altra and my local outdoors shop has the 6 and the 7s. I had my eye on the 7s mainly because the color and the initial fit. Guess I’ll give both of them a try on. My feet are fairly narrow so either might work well.
The altra lone peaks used to be the best! I echo your thoughts there for sure. Also my lone peak mid hikers started having an odd smell when getting them wet. So bad that I replaced them twice thinking that an animal got to mine and did their biz while my shoes were drying out on my porch or something. I’ve written altra and left reviews, a few reviewers are talking about it, so it’s legit. But so sad to have to leave an entire brand behind because of changes in design and their unwillingness to listen to their supporters.
Good to know, really liked my Lone Peaks but switched over to the Topos you mentioned...mainly because they have better traction but i also found them to have more cushion. The Topos drain well i used them for Harding Falls this morning, once they drained it was time to get wet again lol. Lots and lots and lots of water crossings atm with the all the rains we had.
I’ve realized that I need support &/or some sort of drop. I did buy some lone Peaks in advance (ie future pairs) & have bought some mid-support green sole inserts & that helps.
It’s funny I just found these and I know people don’t like them for hiking and are sad…. I however LOVE them for everyday wear! I just think they let me walk and move freely but still feel supportive.
I like the 7. It is narrower but the toe box is still wide enough. At first I didn't like it but I now like snugness on the trail, keeping my foot from sliding around too much but still having an acceptable toe box.
It is narrower. When I got my 7s I dropped down from 11 to 10.5 wide and they are great. The only thing I don't like about them is the ledge on the heel, which I think I will cut off mainly because it makes my heel hurt when I'm driving. The heel pocket is definitely stiffer and more snug, and that might also be putting pressure on my heel bursa. I still like them but only for hiking. I don't like running in them because the stack height is too high and they are too squishy for my running preference. I used to run in Hoka Stinsons but the stack height and ramp angle are not good for my knees. I'm still looking for the perfect running shoe.
Good review. I really liked my Topos.... just not the high arch. Someone below mentioned the Pursuit. Those looked promising (until I read the review about the high arch). I think it's just a "Topo" thing. Too bad since they seem to click all the right boxes. I'll be sticking to my LP 6's for now. May go back to the Olympus as I miss the cushion.
Yea that arch piece is strange and I wish you could remove it with the insole - after a few hikes I got used to it but I def feel it after switching from a shoe that doesn't have it
Yeah I just got Runventure 4s online cos nobody had them locally. They could stand to be wider in the toes and the arch annoys me. But probably gonna keep them and try them.
I'm curious to see more reviews of the Keen WK400. My interest is walking, not trail running which seems to get most of the attention from reviewers over plain walking. Nicely done video, seems very professionally done.
I loved the 6’s so much I can’t find a reason to go up to the 7’s. It’s sad the shoes are getting narrower but at least my favorite Altras come in wide.
i bought the 6 not too long ago i’ve done about 60 to 70 miles on them and the toe guard rubber is coming apart… I did an 11mile hike in Santa Cruz Island with them and they creased over my toe givin me a purple toe nail!
The thing that gets me about Altra is them moving away from the “original” foot shape across a lot of their shoes. That was once their brand. It’s a great fit. It was the “Altra” thing but now they’re moving much more mainstream with their standard and narrow foot shapes.
Yea agree - they should be doing the opposite and leaning into the unique foot shape, just like HOKA leaned into the high stack - it would serve them much better
@@Hikingguy yeah definitely agree- the worst thing they could do is generalize the product they offer just to try to get a wider cut of the market. Focus on what they do and what they do well.
It's frustrating, for sure. My first pair of Altra was the One 2.5. Talk about a wide toe box...Holy Smokes! Light, roomy, spongy, slipper-like. A road shoe that I used for trail running.
I’ve had 3 pairs of altras, superior 5s and they have been great. Then got some mont blancs and inner sole separated within 20km and I sent them back to a camping store. Then I got the lone peak all weather and in the heal where the water proof membrane joins the cushion feels terrible. Really harsh seam and gave me blisters after walking a couple kms. Contacted Altra as I bought direct and customer service was absolutely horrible. They didn’t care or want to help. Very disappointing.
Altra seem to be turning their backs on the BareFoot Ethos. They add more and more padding in a lot of their models, this means less ground feel (I had a pair of the Olympus boots, ridiculously thick, returned for a refund) - the whole point of 'going barefoot' for me: re-learning how to walk and strengthen your feet, etc. Also, many Altra models are narrower and narrower. Finally, I laugh when hikers say they are happy to get 300 miles out of their Lone-Peaks before they have to buy new ones... crazy! I've moved over to VivoBarefoot shoes and boots. Much better ground feel, look like they will last a long time, and can be repaired. Walked in Scotland recently in Winter in their Forest ESC .. fantastic: comfortable, warm, breathable, etc!
Not for technical climbing, I still have a few crampon able hard soled boots for that. The Forest ESC are brilliant for rough walking in mountains here in the UK, up to simple scrambling. Which is the large majority of what me and my wife do these days. The Forest ESC are all leather and with a bit of the leather wax they actually look like new after being beaten up a lot!
I don’t read much into reviews but I JUST got some sevens a few months back and I too noticed a big difference. I actually prefer the tighter feel at the heel but my feet don’t feel as “fresh” after 5-10 miles as they did with the 4 or 5s (skipped the 6). Got mine at rei so I’ve been contemplating a return.
I tried the HOKA Speedgoat several times but it was just a little too narrow and the Stinson was just too big a platform for me. Ended up 6 months ago with the ASICS Trabuco Max Trail Running Shoe. Very comfortable and has nearly as much cushion as a HOKA. It is great for travel shoe and lighter hikes but I still wear my Saloman XA Pro trail runners for most hikes. They are heavier but much more supportive, stable and durable.
Have you tried any Lems? Similar in that they have a low or zero drop and wide toe box. Plus they’re a small business, which I tend to gravitate towards.
I skipped buying the Lone Peak 7. I'm still using my 6's and still have my 5's. I just received my Lone Peak 8, haven't used them yet. I hike over 20 hours every week. I like toe room because arthritis is causing my second toe to creep over the big toe. And I like the low to the ground design to help with balance. Too much cushioning is a negative for me. I also got the Speedcross 6's for half price so I'll throw out the LP 5's and stick with LP6 and the Solomon's. Best wishes to you.
I am new to zero drop shoes and the toe box idea. I ended up buying the lone peak 7s. I’m going to be using them as a daily driver for the time being and am going to run an atrex insert for them because I have super high arches. Would you say that this wasn’t a bad way to go? I came from the brooks Ricochet 3s. I’m also hoping that the toe box will help my toes, as I am prone to ingrown toenails 😂. Hoping to get back into running again.
I have owned many pairs of trail shoes and I have to say the Nike wildhorse 7 are my favorite. They are ugly for sure, but function over fashion. My second favorite are la sportiva bushidos. I don’t love support Nike but they made a great shoe with the wildhorse.
I bought the Hoka Speedgoat 5s and with 50 miles so far, I love them (even though they have a terrible color scheme. I was nervous about the narrower toe box, but I love running and hiking in these. Previously I was using Lone Peak 5s.
I’ve seen lots of thru-hikers abandoning the Lone Peaks. I’m on my fourth pair of Columbia Vitesse- not because they wear out but because they keep making them in great colors. They have a wide toe box that doesn’t cause ingrown toenails. The sole is wide enough to keep me from rolling an ankle.
not a tru hiker but i do wear any altra at home, well except the tall ones adn there's been too much tall ones. this felt like an interesting posh change but i guess i'd rather wait for an egomax version of outroad or intuition what with the price increase and all that
I needed a wide shoe with more padding as I was doing some more rocky hiking and was very pleasantly surprised by the Altra Olympus 5s. It and the lone peaks are the only ones with original wide footbox. Also I think the new colors of the LP7 look worse than last models. Will have to get a few extra 6s as I wear those as an everyday shoe
I guess I'm glad I bought the 6 before they came out with the 7! I love the 6...very comfortable on the trail. I recently bought the Hoka Challenger 7 just to have an additional option, and I love them, too.
I had some og altras that I loved. The one2.5. I’ve gone through 5 pairs, as once altra stopped making them I found some on eBay. They’re all gone now, and I cannot find a single altra style that fits my foot. The original shoe shape is too wide for my heal now (not an issue with my old ones that were the original shape). The new narrower styles are so tight across the top and way too narrow. There’s no give or flex to the material. It’s disappointing, I’d have worn those old altras for life and just kept buying them.
What are your thoughts on hiking boots? I hahavd a flat arch and a thick foot, so I need a high volume shoe but not necessarily a wide shoe. I use Keen 2 boots and really like/need the high ankle for support.
After hiking with shoes I've found that boots / ankle support doesn't do anything for me. I'm also not carrying crazy loads but it's been fine with low cuffs. I prefer the lighter shoe, feels better and less energy
I might try Topo next. I'm still getting use out of my 2 pair of Lone Peak 5's but the outersoles wear down way too fast. Looking into Vibram outersoles for the next pair.
I have been using Altra Timpson 3 and Topo Ultraventure for over a year. The outsole of the Altra has gone and there holes in the fabric of right and left shoes. The Topo's Vibram outsole is still in very good condition but the glue at the sides of the shoes have become apart ( only a little part of the sides of the shoes). The Topo is therefore better in quality. I use them in rotation for road walking.
I'm really liking the Pursuit shoe, it's between a Terraventure and LP. And I'm guessing a new Terraventure will probably come out soon. Usually when they get discounted it's a clue for a new model.
Man, I just looked at these online today. I was looking for a size 16 trailrunner and these were the only ones I could find with good reviews… disappointing to hear they are getting some bad reviews for quality. Now I don’t know what I will do…
Tried the LP7 👎 after 3 miles I was like nope these suck. LP6 was pretty good, ordered another pair. Mind blowing how a company can destroy themselves from doing stupid stuff. Advice to Altra …stick to LP6 design….stitch, stronger glue, and use new LP7 tread. 🙌🍻👍
I run in the Solomon Crest GTX shoes and they have held up very nicely. They will make your feet tough. Not a super comfortable shoe, but they very durable.
I really wanted to love the Altra Lone Peak shoes because so many hikers recommended them, but they just didn’t work for me. I love my Brooks Cascadia shoes though. When I find a shoe that I love, I buy at least 2 pair, sometimes 3, just to be sure I have them in case the manufacturer changes things with new versions. That strategy has worked well for me, it’s just big $$ upfront, these shoes cost a whole lot more than shoes from Target, LOL, but in the long run it’s a good investment.
I will be going to Volcanoes Nat’l Park this summer. Will the Terra Ventures be good on the lava rock, or is there a good shoe that you could recommend?
Based on your recommendation I tried the Topo Athletic Terraventure 3 but sadly after intermittently wearing them a dozen times on day hike test hikes with a full backpack, I've been struggling with them. First off, the insoles were, well - next to nothing so I immediately replaced them with a pricey pair of Superfeet insoles which made walking more comfortable. But regarding shoe box I mean sure, giving a bit of extra room is cool... but not so much that it makes me start thinking about moving some of my backpack gear into the toe box! Worse, now I either have to aggressively bind the laces very tight (which causes several days of discomfort on the top of my foot), or let my toes slide around and start to get a blister after 10-15 miles of a moderate hike. So I'll wear them around the home or a day hike without a pack but stick to my HOKA Speedgoat 5's that have spoiled me. However I'll give one nod to the Topo's for their $97 shoe, as compared to the Hoka's at a pricey $155. But IMO when you're backpacking you can't afford to sellout to pain and discomfort. I wonder if I didn't "oversize" the Topo's from size 11 to 12 as I do with other hiking shoes would help - perhaps but I still suspect the seeming EE width would still be a problem unless I put some material in the toe box of the shoe. Any ideas?
I think if you are doing well in a Hoka Speedgoat 5, with it's narrow toebox, the wider toebox on a Terraventure or LP will feel wide. For me and my foot, the Terraventure felt a lot like the LPs and if you hold the shoes top-down, side-by-side, they have a similar shape with a wide toe box. But feet are variable and not everyone fits shoes the same. If the Speedgoat 5's are working well for you, I'd just call it a day and stay there. They work well for me but the narrow toe box causes hot spots if I hike over 10-miles or so.
@@Hikingguy Perfect response and you're certainly in good company with other successful thru hikers like Dixie (and both of y'all are great TH-camrs as well). Many thanks you for sharing your perspective.
Idk I hear the same thing year after year about the new LP. “Everyone buy the old version” then when the next one comes out everyone says the same thing. However I do agree that since I’ve been wearing them, version 2, that there have been changes. My BIGGEST gripe with altras all around is their grip. I love the superiors as well but I at least slip once every backpacking trip in either the LP or the Superiors (esp these). So I’m intrigued by the new grip. Also on speedgoats, they were too narrow in the toe but the fabric stretched enough. But man did that fabric stretch! Too much! (See reviews). But too much cushion for my knees! Anyways glad you tried them, I’m going to eventually! Still on my 6’s!
J'ai remarqué que Altra avait changé le fit de ses dernières chaussures. Plus étroit, inconfortable. Entre mes Torin 5 et Torin 6, il y a un monde. Aucune bonne sensation sur la 6. Je pense que je vais les finir a la marche et non le running
Classic corporate BS: trying to make us believe the loss of stitching via the fusing on the uppers....its a CHEAPER process, and LOOKS it!!....and changing up the lacing pattern that worked on every shoe in history not only looks weird but the lacing support is uneven....i could go on.....BYE, Altra!
Sorry, but I'm glad that I didn't follow you on the Altras: For me the right grip of the soles is essential and in wet weather skittish profiles are a real nuisance. Thanks for sharing your experiences
Hoka Speedgoat is an odd choice for hiking, tall and rockered, toe squeezer. From Hoka I'd and did pick a Mafate Speed⁴. More flat feel, more toe room, more grip. Feels like a tighter Olymphus. My other pics for hiking + running: Saucony Peregrine¹³ (low to the ground) Nike Pegasus Trail⁴ (positively surprised - nice cushioning but very lightweight! wide toebox)
Sorry to hear. I've been hiking in Altra Lone Peaks for 8 years and love them. Will give the seven's a try before I give up on them. Can't imagine using anything else.
Topo pursuits are very similar feeling to the altras. They have a bit more arch support. Toe space is amazing and they are zero drop. The foam sole is around the thickness of the timps.
What’s you’re review on the lone peaks 7?
The 7 is trash. The tread.is nice but everything else about it sucks. They fell apart within my first 3 runs. My 6s have been used In multiple ultras countless trail runs to the point the tread is non existent. Now they are my work shoe because they are still comfy as shit. They need to give us the 6 with the 7 tread
Thanks!
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This video needed to be made, and thanks for making it.
Agree. Altra made their name with wide well drained and ventilated shoes. Every second version they make big changes. Usually to narrower and less ventilated. Everyone complains so they then change them back. They've been doing this since the 3.5's, when I first tried them. I also tried some waterproof 4.0's that had loose heels. The 3.5's were much better. The fours had those same awkward lacing eyelets that have reappeared in the 7's, but not that bizarre red foot arch compressor band thank goodness. The 4.5's were great, but wore out fast. With the 5's they replaced most of the ventilation with lots of painted on dots to fool you into buying them and introduced a new narrower size, that they called regular then relabelled the regulars as wide. And stopped having point 5 versions. I found some more 4.5's to buy. The 6's were wide and well ventilated and now the 7's are actually longer than the 6's . My 7's are the same length as my new 12.5 6's. But the 7's are narrower. They keep doing the opposite of what their customer want. They did the same thing with the Timps. 1.5's good, 2's narrower tighter. Similar pattern with the Olympus. Latest Olympus has this goofy giant pull tab that puts a crease down the middle of the heel and makes it feel loose. When it's not rubbing on your Achilles. I get the impression that there is some sort of internal dispute going on at Altra. Skinny feet vs wide feet. I've ordered up some topo pursuits.
Altra are crap now. I loved them when they had the Sampson. Now, no different to Nike
Everyone keeps saying the LP7 is more narrow... I think they mean the toe box came in slightly. The midfoot is either slightly wider on LP7 or the fabric on top is more forgiving which does not squeeze my midfoot as much. I tested a few different LP6 and LP7 to confirm this and the LP7 is definitely the winner for midfoot width comfort. Overall feels like a much better shoe. Glad I didn't listen to the masses.
I concur with your assessment of the 6 vs 7. I’ve hiked over 100 miles in my 6s and tried 7s because they’re on sale. I couldn’t wear them and returned immediately. I need the wide toe box and was disappointed with the changes made to the 7. I just bought a pair of 8s and hope they will fit like the 6s. Thanks for your review.
I love Topos - awesome grip and fit!
If you're going the way of max cushion with the Speedgoats, you could also consider the New Balance Trail More v3 and the Topo Ultraventure 3. Both also offer Vibram outsoles and are available in wide, which I recently purchased to accommodate my neanderthal feet. For reference, the Lone Peak 6 in wide was still too narrow for me in the midfoot, as well as all other current Altra trail runners. Me, fit into HOKAs...fuggetaboutit.
I rotate the Pursuit (0mm drop), Trail More v3 (4mm drop), and Ultraventure 3 (5mm drop) depending on the type of hike or trail run. The Ultraventure 3 feels similar to the Pursuit in the arch though, so you may feel that little "bump" if you have low-ish arches.
I hike where it is full of a lot of small rocks and pebbles. Unfortunately, while the shoes are comfy, no moreso than others TBH, they pick up a lot of stones which end up in the shoe. So they are relegated to less gravelly (if that's a word), more dirt oriented hikes. I will say my fav is the brown on brown Merrells. They just work everywhere and are more comfy than all the others. Note, I'm talking hiking here.
I tried the Hoka Speedboat 5 and had to return them. I love the cushioning but the forefoot is too wide for me. It gave me blisters. Thanks for creating these awesome videos!
I love my brooks trail runners. The Cascadias took me through the Sierras last summer. I also love the Calderas. I stopped wearing Altas many years ago when they changed then 7 years ago.
Nice, thanks, yea I used to hike in those years ago but moved away for some reason that I forgot about already - I'll give them another shot this summer - so far I've been using these and they're basically LPs but better: bit.ly/3pmMVWS
Bring back the King MT. Best shoe they ever made.
Sauconys are much underrated. I also have Hoka Stinsons I like but with the thick sole you need to get used to them.
402 miles on my LP7s. Sole is cooked but they did great until now. But I think I’m moving to Topo.
I've been using the Ultraventure Pros for just over 2 years. I'm just about to buy my third pair. Very good shoes. I've used them on the LCT and clambering over the rocks along the impassible zones was very confidence inspiring.
I've run 231 miles in my Lone Peak 7's so far and must confess that they're my current personal favourite shoe. They have a stack height of a lowish 25 mm yet in my opinion give a Goldilocks level of *just right* cushioning whether I'm using them for roads or trail runs. I haven't had the pleasure of sampling earlier iterations of the Lone Peak model so can't make comparisons. A justifiable criticism of the shoe is that the uppers lack durability. My pair have developed holes in the thin materialed uppers where they meet the rubberized looking toe box reinforcement material. I'm not sure if interaction with sharp twigs on trails have caused this damage or the uppers have spontaneously broken down, but I would identify this upper material fragility as a weakness of the shoe. However, the holes haven't affected the comfort or usability of my pair so far and I'm probably going to continue using them until they are no longer viable and need consigning to a non-recyclable deposition facility where all or most athletic shoes end up, sadly. 😢
The Brooks Caldera 7 are awesome!
I just finished the TA in NZ and this year soo many people had issues with the all of the grip falling off the bottom of their Hokas, and having to return them for replacements.
Interesting - havne't heard that or had that problem but maybe it's something with the new ones, will keep my eyes on the soles, ty
ALL of my Hoka footwear has done this....but I still wear them.
Thanks for the review, Cris. If you could please review the Brooks Cascadia 16 or the newest Brooks Caramount 2.
New Balance More TR v3. Available in wide sizes. Great trail runners for hiking. It's like hiking on clouds for me.
going to check them out, thank you
I just got the 7 for the first time having that brand I have the speed goat and they don't last long
Não duram nada, apesar de muito confortáveis. Prefiro o trabuco 11 da asics, mais proteção na parte superior, mais segurança no grip e muito mais durável
Também encomendei o LP 7, mas ainda não chegou
I found these nowhere near as close to as narrow as any Hoka. I would recommend the Olympus 5 they’re absolutely perfect feel like a slipper and nimble for the amount of stack. Love them.
I gave up on Hoka's a long time ago due to quality issues. Never got on the train with zero drops. Just switched to Topo Athletic due to wide footbox and love them. Another trail runner I heard good things about are the Brooks Cascadia. Maybe worth trying out?
I love my Cascadia 16s.
I was a die hard cascadia fan for several years, but they switched factories and all their quality control went away. They have great lugs, but the toe box just kept getting weirder and weirder in a way I can only describe as "slappy".
I’m just getting into Altra and my local outdoors shop has the 6 and the 7s. I had my eye on the 7s mainly because the color and the initial fit. Guess I’ll give both of them a try on. My feet are fairly narrow so either might work well.
I did the same, 7s are way better than my last shoes. Ended up buying the all weather ones because it’s been raining a lot
The altra lone peaks used to be the best! I echo your thoughts there for sure.
Also my lone peak mid hikers started having an odd smell when getting them wet. So bad that I replaced them twice thinking that an animal got to mine and did their biz while my shoes were drying out on my porch or something. I’ve written altra and left reviews, a few reviewers are talking about it, so it’s legit. But so sad to have to leave an entire brand behind because of changes in design and their unwillingness to listen to their supporters.
Good to know, really liked my Lone Peaks but switched over to the Topos you mentioned...mainly because they have better traction but i also found them to have more cushion. The Topos drain well i used them for Harding Falls this morning, once they drained it was time to get wet again lol. Lots and lots and lots of water crossings atm with the all the rains we had.
I’ve realized that I need support &/or some sort of drop. I did buy some lone Peaks in advance (ie future pairs) & have bought some mid-support green sole inserts & that helps.
Loved LP5 and 6. I snagged an extra pair of LP6 before they disappeared. Waiting for your review of LP8 before looking at something else like Topo
Coming in a few
It’s funny I just found these and I know people don’t like them for hiking and are sad…. I however LOVE them for everyday wear! I just think they let me walk and move freely but still feel supportive.
I like the 7. It is narrower but the toe box is still wide enough. At first I didn't like it but I now like snugness on the trail, keeping my foot from sliding around too much but still having an acceptable toe box.
It is narrower. When I got my 7s I dropped down from 11 to 10.5 wide and they are great. The only thing I don't like about them is the ledge on the heel, which I think I will cut off mainly because it makes my heel hurt when I'm driving. The heel pocket is definitely stiffer and more snug, and that might also be putting pressure on my heel bursa. I still like them but only for hiking. I don't like running in them because the stack height is too high and they are too squishy for my running preference. I used to run in Hoka Stinsons but the stack height and ramp angle are not good for my knees. I'm still looking for the perfect running shoe.
The Lone Peak 7's don't have enough volume over my instep. Had to remove the footbed in order to get them on.
Good review. I really liked my Topos.... just not the high arch. Someone below mentioned the Pursuit. Those looked promising (until I read the review about the high arch). I think it's just a "Topo" thing. Too bad since they seem to click all the right boxes. I'll be sticking to my LP 6's for now. May go back to the Olympus as I miss the cushion.
Yea that arch piece is strange and I wish you could remove it with the insole - after a few hikes I got used to it but I def feel it after switching from a shoe that doesn't have it
Yeah I just got Runventure 4s online cos nobody had them locally. They could stand to be wider in the toes and the arch annoys me. But probably gonna keep them and try them.
I'm curious to see more reviews of the Keen WK400. My interest is walking, not trail running which seems to get most of the attention from reviewers over plain walking. Nicely done video, seems very professionally done.
I loved the 6’s so much I can’t find a reason to go up to the 7’s. It’s sad the shoes are getting narrower but at least my favorite Altras come in wide.
Thanks for the great video. Just wondering if you had an opinion on the MEN'S LONE PEAK HIKER 2 hiking boot?
👍 I stopped wearing high-cuff boots/shoes - it's just overiill for me
i bought the 6 not too long ago i’ve done about 60 to 70 miles on them and the toe guard rubber is coming apart… I did an 11mile hike in Santa Cruz Island with them and they creased over my toe givin me a purple toe nail!
Hoka SG series is kind of narrow for me, i love the Mafate speed. it is wider and longer than Speed Goat.
The thing that gets me about Altra is them moving away from the “original” foot shape across a lot of their shoes. That was once their brand. It’s a great fit. It was the “Altra” thing but now they’re moving much more mainstream with their standard and narrow foot shapes.
Yea agree - they should be doing the opposite and leaning into the unique foot shape, just like HOKA leaned into the high stack - it would serve them much better
@@Hikingguy yeah definitely agree- the worst thing they could do is generalize the product they offer just to try to get a wider cut of the market. Focus on what they do and what they do well.
There's WIDE version of Lone Peaks 7 which is probably what you are looking for
It's frustrating, for sure. My first pair of Altra was the One 2.5. Talk about a wide toe box...Holy Smokes! Light, roomy, spongy, slipper-like. A road shoe that I used for trail running.
I’ve had 3 pairs of altras, superior 5s and they have been great. Then got some mont blancs and inner sole separated within 20km and I sent them back to a camping store. Then I got the lone peak all weather and in the heal where the water proof membrane joins the cushion feels terrible. Really harsh seam and gave me blisters after walking a couple kms. Contacted Altra as I bought direct and customer service was absolutely horrible. They didn’t care or want to help. Very disappointing.
Altra seem to be turning their backs on the BareFoot Ethos. They add more and more padding in a lot of their models, this means less ground feel (I had a pair of the Olympus boots, ridiculously thick, returned for a refund) - the whole point of 'going barefoot' for me: re-learning how to walk and strengthen your feet, etc. Also, many Altra models are narrower and narrower. Finally, I laugh when hikers say they are happy to get 300 miles out of their Lone-Peaks before they have to buy new ones... crazy! I've moved over to VivoBarefoot shoes and boots. Much better ground feel, look like they will last a long time, and can be repaired. Walked in Scotland recently in Winter in their Forest ESC .. fantastic: comfortable, warm, breathable, etc!
vivo? lol. do u use it to climb or just casually
Not for technical climbing, I still have a few crampon able hard soled boots for that. The Forest ESC are brilliant for rough walking in mountains here in the UK, up to simple scrambling. Which is the large majority of what me and my wife do these days. The Forest ESC are all leather and with a bit of the leather wax they actually look like new after being beaten up a lot!
Which shoes would you recommend for walking on slippery cobblestone roads?
The Terraventure 4 have a great grip: bit.ly/3tgPnQx
I don’t read much into reviews but I JUST got some sevens a few months back and I too noticed a big difference. I actually prefer the tighter feel at the heel but my feet don’t feel as “fresh” after 5-10 miles as they did with the 4 or 5s (skipped the 6). Got mine at rei so I’ve been contemplating a return.
To me the LP7 feels like a sponge while the LP6 feels more like a rice crispy. I use my shoes for technical trail running and prefer LP6.
I tried the HOKA Speedgoat several times but it was just a little too narrow and the Stinson was just too big a platform for me. Ended up 6 months ago with the ASICS Trabuco Max Trail Running Shoe. Very comfortable and has nearly as much cushion as a HOKA. It is great for travel shoe and lighter hikes but I still wear my Saloman XA Pro trail runners for most hikes. They are heavier but much more supportive, stable and durable.
people say the speedgoat is too narrow...after a 4 mile run it stretches out alot...its a completely different shoe
I just got the speedgoat 5 and so far I love them! Let me know how you like them :)
quick review coming in a couple of hours - I loved them but the narrow toe box caused chaffing for me unfortunately
Have you tried any Lems? Similar in that they have a low or zero drop and wide toe box. Plus they’re a small business, which I tend to gravitate towards.
link?
Have them on the list to try, thanks for the rec!
I skipped buying the Lone Peak 7. I'm still using my 6's and still have my 5's. I just received my Lone Peak 8, haven't used them yet. I hike over 20 hours every week. I like toe room because arthritis is causing my second toe to creep over the big toe. And I like the low to the ground design to help with balance. Too much cushioning is a negative for me. I also got the Speedcross 6's for half price so I'll throw out the LP 5's and stick with LP6 and the Solomon's. Best wishes to you.
I am new to zero drop shoes and the toe box idea. I ended up buying the lone peak 7s. I’m going to be using them as a daily driver for the time being and am going to run an atrex insert for them because I have super high arches. Would you say that this wasn’t a bad way to go? I came from the brooks Ricochet 3s. I’m also hoping that the toe box will help my toes, as I am prone to ingrown toenails 😂. Hoping to get back into running again.
Vertical tab vs horizontal was on the older models. What is old is now is new
I have owned many pairs of trail shoes and I have to say the Nike wildhorse 7 are my favorite. They are ugly for sure, but function over fashion. My second favorite are la sportiva bushidos. I don’t love support Nike but they made a great shoe with the wildhorse.
Have you tried the Lems Trailhead? I haven't, but I love my everyday Lems, so was thinking of trying them.
They're listed as narrow but haven't tried them - will check out the other Lems too, looks interesting
I bought the Hoka Speedgoat 5s and with 50 miles so far, I love them (even though they have a terrible color scheme. I was nervous about the narrower toe box, but I love running and hiking in these. Previously I was using Lone Peak 5s.
Altra Hiker. I love mine
Personally I have sensitive feet and I like the Hoka speed goat mid tops for Southern California terrain.
I’ve seen lots of thru-hikers abandoning the Lone Peaks. I’m on my fourth pair of Columbia Vitesse- not because they wear out but because they keep making them in great colors. They have a wide toe box that doesn’t cause ingrown toenails. The sole is wide enough to keep me from rolling an ankle.
not a tru hiker but i do wear any altra at home, well except the tall ones adn there's been too much tall ones. this felt like an interesting posh change but i guess i'd rather wait for an egomax version of outroad or intuition what with the price increase and all that
I’ve enjoyed hiking in the Altra montblanc boa. The regular version I did not like. And the Saucony endorphin edge is also a fun shoe for me
Do you know of any other trail shoes that are zero drop besides Altra? I've noticed a dip in their quality as well over the past few years.
I've got about 80 miles on these and they're very similar if not better - loving them and think I have my LP replacement: bit.ly/3mGoHWG
I needed a wide shoe with more padding as I was doing some more rocky hiking and was very pleasantly surprised by the Altra Olympus 5s. It and the lone peaks are the only ones with original wide footbox. Also I think the new colors of the LP7 look worse than last models. Will have to get a few extra 6s as I wear those as an everyday shoe
Hmm i just got the 6s red bottoms can’t complain at all the new color way are horrendous what about merrel or xero
I guess I'm glad I bought the 6 before they came out with the 7! I love the 6...very comfortable on the trail. I recently bought the Hoka Challenger 7 just to have an additional option, and I love them, too.
I had some og altras that I loved. The one2.5. I’ve gone through 5 pairs, as once altra stopped making them I found some on eBay. They’re all gone now, and I cannot find a single altra style that fits my foot. The original shoe shape is too wide for my heal now (not an issue with my old ones that were the original shape). The new narrower styles are so tight across the top and way too narrow. There’s no give or flex to the material. It’s disappointing, I’d have worn those old altras for life and just kept buying them.
What are your thoughts on hiking boots? I hahavd a flat arch and a thick foot, so I need a high volume shoe but not necessarily a wide shoe. I use Keen 2 boots and really like/need the high ankle for support.
After hiking with shoes I've found that boots / ankle support doesn't do anything for me. I'm also not carrying crazy loads but it's been fine with low cuffs. I prefer the lighter shoe, feels better and less energy
i tried the lone peak 7 and wasn’t happy with the durability i want the 6s but don’t know if the sizing is the same
I've had the lone peak 7s for a month, and the glue on the toe guard is coming apart
I might try Topo next. I'm still getting use out of my 2 pair of Lone Peak 5's but the outersoles wear down way too fast. Looking into Vibram outersoles for the next pair.
I have been using Altra Timpson 3 and Topo Ultraventure for over a year. The outsole of the Altra has gone and there holes in the fabric of right and left shoes. The Topo's Vibram outsole is still in very good condition but the glue at the sides of the shoes have become apart ( only a little part of the sides of the shoes). The Topo is therefore better in quality. I use them in rotation for road walking.
topo ultraventure or saucony xodus are pretty similar
@@lh3540 Nice. Thanks!
Its sad that they change the shoes in this way but there is simply no better alternative so you just have to deal with it
I'm about to try the Topo Pursuits, which are very similar in specs
@@Bart0vds good to know thank you
Since the Topo’s are being discontinued and running out of sizes, is there another best everyday hiking shoe?
I'm really liking the Pursuit shoe, it's between a Terraventure and LP. And I'm guessing a new Terraventure will probably come out soon. Usually when they get discounted it's a clue for a new model.
@@Hikingguy that’s great! I guess I’ll have to try those then
Man, I just looked at these online today. I was looking for a size 16 trailrunner and these were the only ones I could find with good reviews… disappointing to hear they are getting some bad reviews for quality. Now I don’t know what I will do…
if you're feet are narrow give em a try - otherwise maybe return before it's 30 days
Tried the LP7 👎 after 3 miles I was like nope these suck.
LP6 was pretty good, ordered another pair. Mind blowing how a company can destroy themselves from doing stupid stuff.
Advice to Altra …stick to LP6 design….stitch, stronger glue, and use new LP7 tread. 🙌🍻👍
wow crazy...I was just about to buy these because my six are done. but these just look different they don't look right maybe ill wait for eight
try the Topo Pursuit - using it now and very similar
Not a running type shoe but I swear by the Solomon hiking boots. Comfortable from day 1, waterproof, and awesome grip.
Any particular model?
I run in the Solomon Crest GTX shoes and they have held up very nicely. They will make your feet tough. Not a super comfortable shoe, but they very durable.
I really wanted to love the Altra Lone Peak shoes because so many hikers recommended them, but they just didn’t work for me.
I love my Brooks Cascadia shoes though.
When I find a shoe that I love, I buy at least 2 pair, sometimes 3, just to be sure I have them in case the manufacturer changes things with new versions. That strategy has worked well for me, it’s just big $$ upfront, these shoes cost a whole lot more than shoes from Target, LOL, but in the long run it’s a good investment.
Me too, I love the cascadias for hiking.
Topo is the may to go.
I loved Altra. They must have sold. I will never waste another penny on them
IMO the LP6 was the best model. I have 3 pairs. My LP7 is ok.
What is the difference in size between LP6 and LP7? My purchase: LP4@12/46.5, LP6@12.5/47
I have always worn the same size in all my lone peaks. I’ve had LP4, 5, 6 and 7.
I have a pair of 6 peak Altra shoes , developed ankle and overall foot pain, anybody on here experienced the same thing?
No foot pain at all. Some strange midfoot pain noticed after a dozen miles with Mont Blancs
I will be going to Volcanoes Nat’l Park this summer. Will the Terra Ventures be good on the lava rock, or is there a good shoe that you could recommend?
They'll work great on that rock, tough sole
I never liked Altra (tried lots)
Currently using Hoka Speedgoat 5 wide fit and Topo Mtn Racer 2/Pursuit/Ultraventure 3
still weaking my lone peak 4.5 ad a daily driver for the last 3-5 years lol
Based on your recommendation I tried the Topo Athletic Terraventure 3 but sadly after intermittently wearing them a dozen times on day hike test hikes with a full backpack, I've been struggling with them. First off, the insoles were, well - next to nothing so I immediately replaced them with a pricey pair of Superfeet insoles which made walking more comfortable. But regarding shoe box I mean sure, giving a bit of extra room is cool... but not so much that it makes me start thinking about moving some of my backpack gear into the toe box! Worse, now I either have to aggressively bind the laces very tight (which causes several days of discomfort on the top of my foot), or let my toes slide around and start to get a blister after 10-15 miles of a moderate hike. So I'll wear them around the home or a day hike without a pack but stick to my HOKA Speedgoat 5's that have spoiled me. However I'll give one nod to the Topo's for their $97 shoe, as compared to the Hoka's at a pricey $155. But IMO when you're backpacking you can't afford to sellout to pain and discomfort. I wonder if I didn't "oversize" the Topo's from size 11 to 12 as I do with other hiking shoes would help - perhaps but I still suspect the seeming EE width would still be a problem unless I put some material in the toe box of the shoe. Any ideas?
I think if you are doing well in a Hoka Speedgoat 5, with it's narrow toebox, the wider toebox on a Terraventure or LP will feel wide. For me and my foot, the Terraventure felt a lot like the LPs and if you hold the shoes top-down, side-by-side, they have a similar shape with a wide toe box. But feet are variable and not everyone fits shoes the same. If the Speedgoat 5's are working well for you, I'd just call it a day and stay there. They work well for me but the narrow toe box causes hot spots if I hike over 10-miles or so.
@@Hikingguy Perfect response and you're certainly in good company with other successful thru hikers like Dixie (and both of y'all are great TH-camrs as well). Many thanks you for sharing your perspective.
Your videos on TH-cam on tvs have poor audio. You have to turn audio volume to 40-50 compared to 15 for other youtube videos.
Idk I hear the same thing year after year about the new LP. “Everyone buy the old version” then when the next one comes out everyone says the same thing. However I do agree that since I’ve been wearing them, version 2, that there have been changes. My BIGGEST gripe with altras all around is their grip. I love the superiors as well but I at least slip once every backpacking trip in either the LP or the Superiors (esp these). So I’m intrigued by the new grip. Also on speedgoats, they were too narrow in the toe but the fabric stretched enough. But man did that fabric stretch! Too much! (See reviews). But too much cushion for my knees! Anyways glad you tried them, I’m going to eventually! Still on my 6’s!
J'ai remarqué que Altra avait changé le fit de ses dernières chaussures. Plus étroit, inconfortable. Entre mes Torin 5 et Torin 6, il y a un monde. Aucune bonne sensation sur la 6. Je pense que je vais les finir a la marche et non le running
Needs to not be snug/wider than wide in toes.
Classic corporate BS: trying to make us believe the loss of stitching via the fusing on the uppers....its a CHEAPER process, and LOOKS it!!....and changing up the lacing pattern that worked on every shoe in history not only looks weird but the lacing support is uneven....i could go on.....BYE, Altra!
I’ll never wear altra again.
Sorry, but I'm glad that I didn't follow you on the Altras: For me the right grip of the soles is essential and in wet weather skittish profiles are a real nuisance. Thanks for sharing your experiences
what about the narrower fit? never wore lone peaks. still on the fense.
had ver 2 - amazing
ver 5 - piece of crap
Hoka Speedgoat is an odd choice for hiking, tall and rockered, toe squeezer. From Hoka I'd and did pick a Mafate Speed⁴. More flat feel, more toe room, more grip.
Feels like a tighter Olymphus.
My other pics for hiking + running:
Saucony Peregrine¹³ (low to the ground)
Nike Pegasus Trail⁴ (positively surprised - nice cushioning but very lightweight! wide toebox)