After learning about the Dave Ramsey plan, I bought a car cash and at first it HURT to write that check. Having the money in the bank really did make me feel good. Now that half a year has passed I can say it feels even better not to have car payments and I was so determined to “make up” for they money I had spent, that I got gazelle intense on replenishing that money back into my savings. It took a lot less time to build it back up.
@@johndone8045 your funny. I always thought leverage was worth it. When the tide goes out you can see who was skinny dipping. Paid for rental property for instance rn is a heck of lot better than debt ridden properties. Much easier to carry. Risk is never factored in with leverage. Now car loans haha those are a badge of the middle class.
It can seem like women talk a lot when you believe women should not be able to speak. As they talk, all you're thinking about is what an idiot you think she is and how nothing she says matters. It seems to go on and on because you don't respect her and resent that she exists. This is a *talk* show for financial problems, and she described what her situation was.
Words no caller has ever heard from Dave Ramsey before: "Buy the car" Congratulations, you have won the Dave Ramsey challenge. Bonus points because it's a freaking LEXUS.
Moving soon to the US for a work assignment for a few years from Germany, I'm in my 20s and this channel is incredible to learn from the mistakes others have made! (and to stop dreaming of 50k cars)
You had me until you said to stop dreaming. Sure, dreams by themselves will get you nothing. But, in America, dreams accompanied with work (and following Dave's Baby Steps) will put that $50k (cash only) dream car in your driveway. 👍
as a 22 y/o in college I enjoy the vehicle conversations. I have a cheap car and my parents are trying their best to get me to buy a car. I just want something to get me up and down the road rn lol
Stay strong. My husband's family convinced him to buy a brand new 27,000 dollar truck before we met. He was only 19 and they convinced him he had to do that to build his credit. We're now 25 and still paying for it... Family doesn't always know what's best for you. This is how the debt cycle continues. You can break the cycle! You got this!
@@morgandawn6413 yep you're 100% correct. They know im a different breed when it comes to financials. My mom and dad once told me to take my savings that i have in the stock market out to buy a side by side so we could go riding on the weekends.. I refuse to be broke if I have any chance whatsoever.
I’m 24, and I just purchased a 2020 Jetta with 10 miles on it. It gets around 36 MPG, and my payments are only 190 a month. If you’re looking for a new car, please look at Volkswagen.
She just used her 50,000 words for the day in one short phonecall. Bless her heart. Pray for her husband. Donations of earbuds are much appreciated. 😂😂
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how anyone at this income level could have any money problems at all. I buy new cars for less than $25k with cash and keep them for over a decade as it's the least expensive and trouble free way to drive. I bought our first new car in 2006 when the lowest price I could negotiate for a 3 year old model with 50k miles was $15k and a brand new one (new model design too) was $18.5k after a rebate. Pretty much a no-brainer and lower priced, base models have less depreciation. Prior to that we always bought used, what we could afford with cash, usually buying a "new" car every 2 to 3 years and taking about 6 months to find a good deal. I love not having to shop for a replacement vehicle every few years and no other repairs other than tires/brakes/oil changes for a decade.
Even at 175k, once you put money away for retirement and other savings, there’s little left. Taxes eat up most of it. 200k/ year now is the 100k/ year of old! Crazy!
@@prakash.srn.17 Lol, the issue is the same no matter what your income level, you're over-spending. Are you maxing out all of your retirement accounts and amassing other savings? If so then you don't really have "little left" as you've done the smart thing already and helped lower your taxes to boot. You're still over-taxed at that income level and it always astonishes me that people in your position don't switch to part time in order to enjoy their lives more or to pursue tax advantaged income like investing in real estate. If the government is taking half your income, why not work half as much and keep it all or at least most?
@@tomj528 it’s looking at balance sheet v. Income statement I guess, which is why I constantly feel like I made nothing in a month. My checking account has the same balance as I did when I was a student but to your point it’s not like I have nothing. I don’t give myself much disposable income. Real estate has risks and headaches I don’t want to deal with nor pay someone to - might change in the future. I don’t have wife and kids so I work mostly and play a few games to keep out of trouble. I just enjoy dogs and will start a rescue. Nothing like picking up after my dog to keep things humble
Amazing video, A friend of mine referred me to a financial adviser sometime ago and we got to talking about investment and money. I started investing with $150k and in the first 2 months, my portfolio was reading $274,800. Crazy right!, I decided to reinvest my profit and get more interesting. For over a year we have been working together making consistent profit just bought my second home 2 weeks ago and care for my family.
Hi. I’ve been forced to find additional sources of income as I got retrenched. I barely have time to continue trading and watch my investments since I had my second child. Do you think I should take a break for a while from the market and focus on other things or return whenever I have free time or is it a continuous process? Thanks
@@lennoxmutterick6434 However, if you do not have access to a professional like Clementina Abate Russo, quitting your job to focus on trading may not be the best approach. It is important to consider all options and seek guidance from reliable sources before making any major decisions. Consulting with an AI or using automated trading systems can also be helpful in managing investments while balancing other commitments.
It's a Lexus GX. I agree with Dave that she should buy a $25,000 vehicle. But she doesn't need a dang GX to carry 3 kids. It gets 17mpg, AND that's on premium fuel, so accounting for the difference, that's like a standard octane vehicle getting like 13mpg. She could get a $25,000 van, Honda Pilot, Highlander, etc.
People have an easier time financing $50k over 5 years plus interest. Than dropping $25k straight out the gate and being done with it. So weird when you think about it.
I remember hearing Dave say "Pay it off, and if you don't like it you can borrow the money to put back in the savings." When you flip the way you think about the money, you start to wonder how being in debt ever made sense in the first place.
Believe me, when you're over age 65, the last thing you want to do is buy a used car, buy expensive parts for repair, and struggle to perform the repairs yourself. I've only had one new car in my life and I kept it for 25 years. But there comes a point where the repair costs are beyond the worth of the car. And when you're older, you want a reliable vehicle with the best warranty you can afford. I doubt Mr.Ramsey has done many car repairs lately.
It makes scene based off ratios. If people can manage each expense properly then they can buy nice things but if it’s a large part of your income don’t do it.
Just a side note, I think that car is based on the Toyota land cruiser, and is about as reliable as you can make a car. Thus it will have very high resale percentage value. Bad gas mileage though.
I work for a car dealership, it amazes me how much value they loose through depreciation and the people that come in to buy them and finance them between 60-84 months , paying $560 a month on average.
If buying new, I'd finance as long as possible at 0% for something reliable that holds resale value well. A Toyota Taco 4WD crewcab for under $40K new could still be worth over $20K 7yrs later. 2012 Wrangler JKUs that were under $35K new can still fetch well over $20K, and they aren't generally as reliable. I generally buy used Japanese economy cars though. Fuel, insurance, registration, and parking costs can be much lower, which improves the economical aspect even more.
My aunt owns a high end car dealership. I used to work there during college (commission only) my aunt and her husband let my drive crazy expensive cars everyday. Now as an adult I don’t have the urge to buy new expensive cars. I’ve been driving my car for 5 years and not buying anything fancy. I felt like people buy new cars because they this urge.
@@RKmndo Lol another example of a common fool. First of all 0% financing is a sham. They include an interest rate of their choosing in your monthly payment, otherwise they'd be losing money on the deal. Secondly, financing "for as long as possible" would actually cause you to pay the dealer more in hidden interest fees. 0% is the new marketing tool pal don't let them draw you in so easily😔
@@meatball4409 I sold cars for a living. If you pay more for 0% financing, it was because the 0% financing was in lieu of rebates or similar...or you didn't work your deal correctly. NEVER discuss method of payment before settling on price. Sometimes the 0% is actually a better deal than the rebate. Crunch the numbers if it's either:or. It also matters if you're planning to pay the loan off early. If you know how to invest well, and the reliable vehicle holds resale well, you're generally still better off financing with a low rate for as long as possible. Have the price of the car invested by time of purchase. Put enough down to not need GAP.
@@RKmndo That is exactly what I expected from someone who used to sell cars. What you're really doing is making continuous payments on a product that you consume, which at the end of the day will be worth 60-70% less than what you paid for it within 4 years. Let's assume an example vehicle costs $30,000 and you get into it for $400/mo. That's roughly 6.3 years worth of payments on something that will have gone from being worth $30,000 to $9,000 while you still have a little over 2 years worth of payments to make. Using money to turn $30,000 into $9,000 is not exactly a good investment strategy. Had you invested that $400/mo at say 8% during that same time frame you'd have about $39,153 for a return of $30,153 more than the financer whose "asset" is now worth only $9,000. Now, one mistake you've made that many people who make the same argument as you commonly make, is assuming in the scenario that you have the $30,000 sitting in the bank that you can invest. The reason people take on payments is because they do not have it in their bank account. Financing at a low interest rate really is more beneficial for the wealthy, because they have a large sum of investable capital that they can invest at a greater rate of return than the loan interest, so they leverage something called opportunity cost.
On Dave's advice here, I purchased a Toyota Camry with 100k miles. Eventually, when I save up enough money.I will buy a new Toyota. For now the Camry is running ẁell.
@@davidb8777 We did the same for our son two years ago. It’s reliable but we have had to replace shocks, struts, and tires. not sure if this is a Toyota thing or not, but you need to be sure to rotate the tires with every oil change because that didn’t happen and we are replacing tires again! Our GMC, Pontiac, and Chevy cars don’t wear tires like that. This is a 2004 Camry.
Did Dave miss the part where her husband isn't working? Was $175K just her income or both of theirs when he was working? Granted, they have the cash for the car, but I feel like he just kinda glossed over that part.
Dr. Johnny Sins that’s the risk you take going with a used car for sure but I always go to a trusted used dealer that only sells clean titles. Most cars have carfax so you can see all the history on the vehicles you’re interested in. I know that still doesn’t show how it could’ve been driven by the previous owner but they are usually detailed and cleaned by the dealerships. You can also request to take the car to a mechanic to inspect it before you buy
@Dr. Johnny Sins that's okay if you have the money for it, but it's a lot of money for the luxury of not taking a few days to research how to look over a used to car to evaluate its mechanical health. It's simple, and once you learn it you know it forever.
investing requires good experience and knowledge to carry out a good and successful trade, I have lost a lot trying to trade all by myself May I ask which investments are good??>>>>>>
I understand your concerns, my friend. I recommend exploring passive index fund investing and expanding your knowledge in this area. Personally, I experienced both successes and challenges when initially seeking a reliable passive income.......
Depends on what your goals are. If you want to achieve FIRE ( early retirement). IMO only if you make 125k a year does it make sense to spend so much on a depreciating asset.
I don’t care if someone has Warren Buffet money. Spending more than $25k on a vehicle is insanely stupid unless the more expensive vehicle is an absolute necessity for their job
A 25,000 car is an economy car nowadays. Now that the used car market has gone nuts, you pay pretty close to this unless you get a high mileage car that wont last very long.
If you have a lease, the cheapest car you can buy is the car your leased once the lease is up. I leased a 2020 Toyota Corolla for 280 a month with very little to get out the door which is comparable to the 275 a month I paid for the payment on my 2011 Versa that lasted 9 years and 220,000+ miles before it became unreasonably unreliable. In 3 years I can just buy the Corolla for $14,000 which is the cheapest, nicest used car I could buy since I'd be the only owner and take care of my things. TCO for my Versa is over 60,000. So that's about 6,000 per year or 500 per month. That's gas, insurance, maintenance, the payments, etc. Even cheap cars aren't that cheap to own. There's nothing wrong with spending $25,000 on a car. There's something wrong with spending $25,000 you can't afford on a car just because you want to impress people or think you're "entitled" to it. You can always get a cheaper car. It just depends on how much you want to deal with it rather than just get reliably from A to B. The kiddo is 13 so she gets the Corolla as her first car. And then I sort out what I want to do from there.
Ill never do a car note again. I recently had geico total out my car cause it was in a wreck. I am actually relieved because i no longer have to pay 400 a month plus 210 insurance. I can now breathe and pay off some loans and credit card easily and will buy me a simple cash car for 3-4000.
Agree. I know some people say that this is a humble-brag and who knows it might be. But it's a legitimate difficulty the people can face after baby step 2. And also it's nice when the show mixes it up and it's not just every single person calling in who has $800,000 in student loan debt and wants to know if they can buy a house. They need to start thinking about the fact that they can probably replace that $25,000 they spent in 3 months.
I mean they can't have every single caller be somebody who is $100,000 in debt. They have to mix it up and include calls from people all over the baby step Spectrum. She might be humble bragging but it's a legitimate difficulty if you have gone through a lengthy baby step 2. You have conditioned yourself not to spend and it can be very hard to suddenly make a large purchase.
If you watch Scotty Kilmer he mentions how CPO is a scam because it’s Ford certifying Ford vehicles to charge a higher price and the people WILL pay for it. It’s just an expensive label
@@yocelyncarrillo-luna2553 They can be, yes, but that's why you negotiate. I wanted to buy a mustang but 50k was way too much, saw they had one for 25k but that car was only worth 20k. Was lucky enough that there was the another dealer with the same CPO but cheaper so I told them "well I'll just go get it there" and they gave me a better deal. I agree that a CPO can be more expensive but negotiating is key
I bought a 2008 toyota corolla in 2012 for 12k and ive had it for 8 years 0 issues outside of basic maintenance. I even see other 2008 corollas on the road today. If you are spending thousands on something do the research and look at hundreds of cars to find the one that fits you and that has a proven track record of success. All the reviews i read said 200k+ miles and very little issues. Im at 85k and plan to rid over 200k ill have this car until 2040 unless i get in an accident.
A no-brainer, if you have the cash then just pay for it. The only argument against would be the opportunity cost of that money if for example you invested that money and just leased the car would you come out on top at the end of the lease period? I would say it is extremely unlikely.
you can get something used that is really cool and exciting for under $20k. there are muscle cars and used luxury cars and trucks at that price range that are still in good shape. i don't see any new cars right now that are worth what they are asking.
Im curious if Dave paid off the debt, he filed bankruptcy on, once he became a millionaire 100x. That would be the moral thing to do right... to pay those that you owed, once you are able?
You can buy a brand new car for less than 15k, Mitsubishi Mirage or Toyota Yaris both are budget compacts made cheap and are deliberately made low priced and get 40mpg. Drive them into the ground.
She does not NEED a luxury branded car ..... Get a Toyota Sienna or Highlander instead. A 2014 .. so 7 year old car at the time of this video? 25k makes no sense.
I wonder if someone has asked the question regarding Tesla. No upkeep, no oil changes, free charging with electric companies over night....safe reliable....its a tough one to argue despite the price. Anyone heard him talk about this?
That Lexus SUV is a great car with a V-6, and a total dog bought used with a V-8. The V-8 engine bought used over 100k miles is hugely expensive to maintain and repair compared to other options, which is why new purchasers are so ready to dump them. Maybe Dave shouldn't be giving car purchase advise.
Lexus has a great reliability record. Don't pay extra for an extended warranty if you're not going to use it that much, especially on a vehicle that is reliable.
Good question TBH, when you “suddenly” make more money than to spend this is what happen. Maybe people just don’t understand her position since they don’t have that much money and 0 debt after paying $130k
The more Damage a Car/Truck takes, the Less the Drive receives. If you go back around 45 years -- deaths at 40mph recks were common, but now they are nearly unheard of. And the reason why they were so common back then was on the fact the cars/trucks were built like a tank and the driver took the full G force of the crash and ended up breaking their necks. Now cars/trucks are made to bend & break in certain areas so the Driver take as little G force as possible. Edit: Also, you can limit your chances of getting into a reck by a amazing 70+% if you don't text and drive.
Anyone recommend a good car for first time buyer? I am from Canada 🇨🇦 and also buying a second hand luxury car ( Mercedes or corvette ) a good purchase ? Thanks
I’m blessed to have a 2000 Lexus GS300 one of my lifelong mentors decided to send my way after working in his office for the Summer. Just paying insurance even as a 24 yr old and maintenance is a dream. No payments ever!
If she like the car she was leasing why not just buy it once the lease is up? Then at least the money she put into it isint completely wasted? I don’t know I’ve never bought a new car or leased and I’m 53 so at least I dodged that bullet.
Dave knows nothing about cars. Even a basic Civic goes for $20k nowadays. An entry level mid-sized car goes for $25k. Avg price of cars nowadays is $38k.
After learning about the Dave Ramsey plan, I bought a car cash and at first it HURT to write that check. Having the money in the bank really did make me feel good. Now that half a year has passed I can say it feels even better not to have car payments and I was so determined to “make up” for they money I had spent, that I got gazelle intense on replenishing that money back into my savings. It took a lot less time to build it back up.
Bad idea, invest the saving, and financing. It. With reallllllly low interest like 0% to 1.9%
Its better to be with then without. Paying monthly does not drain all or most your earnings at once.
@@johndone8045 poor mans mindset lol
@@galupproperties3098 wrong, the broke middle class folllows dave, the rich leverage
@@johndone8045 your funny. I always thought leverage was worth it. When the tide goes out you can see who was skinny dipping. Paid for rental property for instance rn is a heck of lot better than debt ridden properties. Much easier to carry. Risk is never factored in with leverage. Now car loans haha those are a badge of the middle class.
Scotty: buy a 94 Celica 😂😂
The only car that exists
😂😂😂👍
😂
This one got me 🤣🤣🤣
glad to know there’s Scotty fans here lol
"I want to buy a pack of gum at 59¢"
"What is your household income?"
As soon as you open the wrapper the value of the gum depreciates 60-70% of that value. Smarter to buy a 2-3 year old gum.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
"You're broke!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
- "Should I buy a pack of gum at 59¢?"
- "What is your household income?"
- "250k/years"
She says 600 words when 50 will do.
Yep..most women do
Stream of consciousness.
Why say lot word when few word do trick?
It can seem like women talk a lot when you believe women should not be able to speak. As they talk, all you're thinking about is what an idiot you think she is and how nothing she says matters. It seems to go on and on because you don't respect her and resent that she exists. This is a *talk* show for financial problems, and she described what her situation was.
@@bimbop7693 you must be a woman..you also talk too much!
Take a shot for every V-Hickle!
veeeehickle.
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Canadian gang wya
LOLLLLL. It was soooo cringeworthy!
I hate the way thats pronounced.
Dave is so patient. I would have stopped her 20 seconds into her speech 😱
😂
Words no caller has ever heard from Dave Ramsey before:
"Buy the car"
Congratulations, you have won the Dave Ramsey challenge.
Bonus points because it's a freaking LEXUS.
Moving soon to the US for a work assignment for a few years from Germany, I'm in my 20s and this channel is incredible to learn from the mistakes others have made! (and to stop dreaming of 50k cars)
You had me until you said to stop dreaming. Sure, dreams by themselves will get you nothing. But, in America, dreams accompanied with work (and following Dave's Baby Steps) will put that $50k (cash only) dream car in your driveway. 👍
@@Winnie-Kay Nothing wrong with buying a 50k car in cash but make sure your net worth is at least 200k before doing so lol
as a 22 y/o in college I enjoy the vehicle conversations. I have a cheap car and my parents are trying their best to get me to buy a car. I just want something to get me up and down the road rn lol
Vee-hickle.
Stay strong. My husband's family convinced him to buy a brand new 27,000 dollar truck before we met. He was only 19 and they convinced him he had to do that to build his credit. We're now 25 and still paying for it... Family doesn't always know what's best for you. This is how the debt cycle continues. You can break the cycle! You got this!
@@morgandawn6413 yep you're 100% correct. They know im a different breed when it comes to financials. My mom and dad once told me to take my savings that i have in the stock market out to buy a side by side so we could go riding on the weekends.. I refuse to be broke if I have any chance whatsoever.
I’m 24, and I just purchased a 2020 Jetta with 10 miles on it. It gets around 36 MPG, and my payments are only 190 a month. If you’re looking for a new car, please look at Volkswagen.
@@Michael-ke8on Once every four seconds!
She just used her 50,000 words for the day in one short phonecall.
Bless her heart. Pray for her husband. Donations of earbuds are much appreciated. 😂😂
Bless her heart • I know what that means
You’re Southern 😂
I want to call and ask Dave a question but my manager listens to Dave Ramsey too and she would totally recognize my voice 😂😂😂
Hey, this is your boss. I watch him on TH-cam too. You are fired 🔥
Try a voice changer app
If you just want to ask a question (and not have a discussion), you could write to him on his Facebook page or you could tweet to @ramseyshow
But then you get to call back and do another question asking Dave what to do because you got fired
Write in.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how anyone at this income level could have any money problems at all. I buy new cars for less than $25k with cash and keep them for over a decade as it's the least expensive and trouble free way to drive. I bought our first new car in 2006 when the lowest price I could negotiate for a 3 year old model with 50k miles was $15k and a brand new one (new model design too) was $18.5k after a rebate. Pretty much a no-brainer and lower priced, base models have less depreciation. Prior to that we always bought used, what we could afford with cash, usually buying a "new" car every 2 to 3 years and taking about 6 months to find a good deal. I love not having to shop for a replacement vehicle every few years and no other repairs other than tires/brakes/oil changes for a decade.
Even at 175k, once you put money away for retirement and other savings, there’s little left. Taxes eat up most of it. 200k/ year now is the 100k/ year of old! Crazy!
@@prakash.srn.17 Lol, the issue is the same no matter what your income level, you're over-spending. Are you maxing out all of your retirement accounts and amassing other savings? If so then you don't really have "little left" as you've done the smart thing already and helped lower your taxes to boot. You're still over-taxed at that income level and it always astonishes me that people in your position don't switch to part time in order to enjoy their lives more or to pursue tax advantaged income like investing in real estate. If the government is taking half your income, why not work half as much and keep it all or at least most?
@@tomj528 it’s looking at balance sheet v. Income statement I guess, which is why I constantly feel like I made nothing in a month. My checking account has the same balance as I did when I was a student but to your point it’s not like I have nothing. I don’t give myself much disposable income. Real estate has risks and headaches I don’t want to deal with nor pay someone to - might change in the future. I don’t have wife and kids so I work mostly and play a few games to keep out of trouble. I just enjoy dogs and will start a rescue. Nothing like picking up after my dog to keep things humble
It’s nice that people reach out to Dave to get some advice before making potential financial disasters!!!
Amazing video, A friend of mine referred me to a financial adviser sometime ago and we got to talking about investment and money. I started investing with $150k and in the first 2 months, my portfolio was reading $274,800. Crazy right!, I decided to reinvest my profit and get more interesting. For over a year we have been working together making consistent profit just bought my second home 2 weeks ago and care for my family.
Hi. I’ve been forced to find additional sources of income as I got retrenched. I barely have time to continue trading and watch my investments since I had my second child. Do you think I should take a break for a while from the market and focus on other things or return whenever I have free time or is it a continuous process? Thanks
@@lennoxmutterick6434 However, if you do not have access to a professional like Clementina Abate Russo, quitting your job to focus on trading may not be the best approach. It is important to consider all options and seek guidance from reliable sources before making any major decisions. Consulting with an AI or using automated trading systems can also be helpful in managing investments while balancing other commitments.
@@BrandonIvan-c6e Oh please I’d love that. Thanks!.
@@lennoxmutterick6434 Clementina Abate Russo is her name.
Lookup with her name on the webpage.
It's a Lexus GX. I agree with Dave that she should buy a $25,000 vehicle. But she doesn't need a dang GX to carry 3 kids. It gets 17mpg, AND that's on premium fuel, so accounting for the difference, that's like a standard octane vehicle getting like 13mpg. She could get a $25,000 van, Honda Pilot, Highlander, etc.
Hey Dave, I just sold my 2014 Lexus Gs350 and will be buying a Toyota tacoma Cash to accelerate our debt snowball. Thank you for what you do.
Nice move
Congrats and stick with it! Toyota is very great for longevity and reliability. Learn to maintain yourself and you're really saving
Sold my 2018 elantra sport and got into a 04 tacoma for 7.8k and lost that $360 payment and 22k of debt now debt free you can do it bud
That's a great truck! A buddy of mine is a mechanic and he bought a 2016. Loves it.
What year taco?
People have an easier time financing $50k over 5 years plus interest. Than dropping $25k straight out the gate and being done with it. So weird when you think about it.
It's so weird right?! I know because I feel like that myself
I remember hearing Dave say "Pay it off, and if you don't like it you can borrow the money to put back in the savings." When you flip the way you think about the money, you start to wonder how being in debt ever made sense in the first place.
It's because they don't have the cash to begin with.
That $25k in the bank is cash it’s hard to let go of cash
Taking loans is not a painful reality.
Money isn’t the only thing she should be worried about wasting. TIME WITH THIS CALL
Believe me, when you're over age 65, the last thing you want to do is buy a used car, buy expensive parts for repair, and struggle to perform the repairs yourself. I've only had one new car in my life and I kept it for 25 years. But there comes a point where the repair costs are beyond the worth of the car. And when you're older, you want a reliable vehicle with the best warranty you can afford. I doubt Mr.Ramsey has done many car repairs lately.
"brevity is the soul of wit"
"All that glitters is not gold"
“I ate Taco Bell therefore I sharted”
4:30 She said it exactly , once you value seeing that money in your account and value it more than (whatever)
It makes scene based off ratios. If people can manage each expense properly then they can buy nice things but if it’s a large part of your income don’t do it.
Love Dave's advice. USED cars are where its at! Never owned a Lexus but I'd like to.
Definitely! Iv had a Corolla for 10 years it would be cool to get the sporty version (Lexus is350) 😜
Omg this was torture. V hick al
If you’re concerned about spending too much money on a vehicle buy a Toyota instead of a Lexus. Same company and less features.
Top trim Toyotas also have many design elements of a Lexus too. Not as fast but a good car to get around in.
Just a side note, I think that car is based on the Toyota land cruiser, and is about as reliable as you can make a car. Thus it will have very high resale percentage value. Bad gas mileage though.
This could be an email...
I work for a car dealership, it amazes me how much value they loose through depreciation and the people that come in to buy them and finance them between 60-84 months , paying $560 a month on average.
If buying new, I'd finance as long as possible at 0% for something reliable that holds resale value well. A Toyota Taco 4WD crewcab for under $40K new could still be worth over $20K 7yrs later. 2012 Wrangler JKUs that were under $35K new can still fetch well over $20K, and they aren't generally as reliable.
I generally buy used Japanese economy cars though. Fuel, insurance, registration, and parking costs can be much lower, which improves the economical aspect even more.
My aunt owns a high end car dealership. I used to work there during college (commission only) my aunt and her husband let my drive crazy expensive cars everyday. Now as an adult I don’t have the urge to buy new expensive cars. I’ve been driving my car for 5 years and not buying anything fancy. I felt like people buy new cars because they this urge.
@@RKmndo Lol another example of a common fool. First of all 0% financing is a sham. They include an interest rate of their choosing in your monthly payment, otherwise they'd be losing money on the deal.
Secondly, financing "for as long as possible" would actually cause you to pay the dealer more in hidden interest fees. 0% is the new marketing tool pal don't let them draw you in so easily😔
@@meatball4409 I sold cars for a living. If you pay more for 0% financing, it was because the 0% financing was in lieu of rebates or similar...or you didn't work your deal correctly. NEVER discuss method of payment before settling on price. Sometimes the 0% is actually a better deal than the rebate. Crunch the numbers if it's either:or. It also matters if you're planning to pay the loan off early.
If you know how to invest well, and the reliable vehicle holds resale well, you're generally still better off financing with a low rate for as long as possible. Have the price of the car invested by time of purchase. Put enough down to not need GAP.
@@RKmndo That is exactly what I expected from someone who used to sell cars. What you're really doing is making continuous payments on a product that you consume, which at the end of the day will be worth 60-70% less than what you paid for it within 4 years.
Let's assume an example vehicle costs $30,000 and you get into it for $400/mo. That's roughly 6.3 years worth of payments on something that will have gone from being worth $30,000 to $9,000 while you still have a little over 2 years worth of payments to make. Using money to turn $30,000 into $9,000 is not exactly a good investment strategy.
Had you invested that $400/mo at say 8% during that same time frame you'd have about $39,153 for a return of $30,153 more than the financer whose "asset" is now worth only $9,000.
Now, one mistake you've made that many people who make the same argument as you commonly make, is assuming in the scenario that you have the $30,000 sitting in the bank that you can invest. The reason people take on payments is because they do not have it in their bank account.
Financing at a low interest rate really is more beneficial for the wealthy, because they have a large sum of investable capital that they can invest at a greater rate of return than the loan interest, so they leverage something called opportunity cost.
Don't let family push you into debt.
I’d love to drive through Ramsey’s parking lot and see what types of cars are parked there!!
On Dave's advice here, I purchased a Toyota Camry with 100k miles.
Eventually, when I save up enough money.I will buy a new Toyota.
For now the Camry is running ẁell.
@@davidb8777 We did the same for our son two years ago. It’s reliable but we have had to replace shocks, struts, and tires. not sure if this is a Toyota thing or not, but you need to be sure to rotate the tires with every oil change because that didn’t happen and we are replacing tires again! Our GMC, Pontiac, and Chevy cars don’t wear tires like that. This is a 2004 Camry.
Did Dave miss the part where her husband isn't working? Was $175K just her income or both of theirs when he was working? Granted, they have the cash for the car, but I feel like he just kinda glossed over that part.
I leased a vehicle at 1.25%. Kept the cash invested. So glad I leased. The money invested paid for the lease.
Get a used Toyota Highlander. Don’t need to go the luxury route
Why though
Braden Sax Highlander’s are great family cars, super reliable, and cheaper than a Lexus suv
They where more expensive than the Lexus I ended up buying when I was looking a few months ago
Dr. Johnny Sins that’s the risk you take going with a used car for sure but I always go to a trusted used dealer that only sells clean titles. Most cars have carfax so you can see all the history on the vehicles you’re interested in. I know that still doesn’t show how it could’ve been driven by the previous owner but they are usually detailed and cleaned by the dealerships. You can also request to take the car to a mechanic to inspect it before you buy
@Dr. Johnny Sins that's okay if you have the money for it, but it's a lot of money for the luxury of not taking a few days to research how to look over a used to car to evaluate its mechanical health. It's simple, and once you learn it you know it forever.
Dave says “Buy the car.” At 2:54. This call goes on past 8 minutes.
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This particular video is good to help you through the emotional side of making decisions
Depends on what your goals are. If you want to achieve FIRE ( early retirement). IMO only if you make 125k a year does it make sense to spend so much on a depreciating asset.
I don’t care if someone has Warren Buffet money. Spending more than $25k on a vehicle is insanely stupid unless the more expensive vehicle is an absolute necessity for their job
A 25,000 car is an economy car nowadays. Now that the used car market has gone nuts, you pay pretty close to this unless you get a high mileage car that wont last very long.
Buy the gx460!!...it’s a no brainer with your income and savings no debt. That’s one of my future purchases too
In 2019 I paid cash for a 1999 Mazda Miata with 32K miles for just $6K…what a steal! The car was mint.
Caller : How much should I spend on a car ?
David Ramsey: Sell the car !!!
YOU ARE BROKE! sell everything on Ebay til your kids thinks they are next 😂
If you have a lease, the cheapest car you can buy is the car your leased once the lease is up. I leased a 2020 Toyota Corolla for 280 a month with very little to get out the door which is comparable to the 275 a month I paid for the payment on my 2011 Versa that lasted 9 years and 220,000+ miles before it became unreasonably unreliable. In 3 years I can just buy the Corolla for $14,000 which is the cheapest, nicest used car I could buy since I'd be the only owner and take care of my things. TCO for my Versa is over 60,000. So that's about 6,000 per year or 500 per month. That's gas, insurance, maintenance, the payments, etc. Even cheap cars aren't that cheap to own.
There's nothing wrong with spending $25,000 on a car. There's something wrong with spending $25,000 you can't afford on a car just because you want to impress people or think you're "entitled" to it. You can always get a cheaper car. It just depends on how much you want to deal with it rather than just get reliably from A to B.
The kiddo is 13 so she gets the Corolla as her first car. And then I sort out what I want to do from there.
We bought our Seina Van for 35k. My husband said if we bought a used car that is 2 yrs older, we would save 15k.
Ill never do a car note again. I recently had geico total out my car cause it was in a wreck. I am actually relieved because i no longer have to pay 400 a month plus 210 insurance. I can now breathe and pay off some loans and credit card easily and will buy me a simple cash car for 3-4000.
Great clip, and very real emotional journey
Agree. I know some people say that this is a humble-brag and who knows it might be. But it's a legitimate difficulty the people can face after baby step 2.
And also it's nice when the show mixes it up and it's not just every single person calling in who has $800,000 in student loan debt and wants to know if they can buy a house.
They need to start thinking about the fact that they can probably replace that $25,000 they spent in 3 months.
Lexus gx is incredible vehicle. Buy buy buy
Only if you keep it for over 12 years and depending on the make and model
Humble brag is why she called lol
Good for her.
Beats the heck out of humble broke.
I mean they can't have every single caller be somebody who is $100,000 in debt.
They have to mix it up and include calls from people all over the baby step Spectrum.
She might be humble bragging but it's a legitimate difficulty if you have gone through a lengthy baby step 2. You have conditioned yourself not to spend and it can be very hard to suddenly make a large purchase.
Nah. It's hard for me to spend $5. Even if someone tells me to
90% of these calls are
Nah it really seems like she’s gotten so good at saving money, that she has trouble making a big purchase.
Why not buy Toyota Minivan? For 25k you get much newer car and Toyota and Lexus being same company will have similar quality control.
Thing that helped me out the most is getting a CPO (certified preowned)
I did the same.
If you watch Scotty Kilmer he mentions how CPO is a scam because it’s Ford certifying Ford vehicles to charge a higher price and the people WILL pay for it. It’s just an expensive label
@@yocelyncarrillo-luna2553 They can be, yes, but that's why you negotiate. I wanted to buy a mustang but 50k was way too much, saw they had one for 25k but that car was only worth 20k. Was lucky enough that there was the another dealer with the same CPO but cheaper so I told them "well I'll just go get it there" and they gave me a better deal. I agree that a CPO can be more expensive but negotiating is key
Congrats for paying off the student loan! 👍🎉
Right, i've got to ask... what watch has Dave got on? i love it!
A $35 Casio
I bought a 2008 toyota corolla in 2012 for 12k and ive had it for 8 years 0 issues outside of basic maintenance. I even see other 2008 corollas on the road today. If you are spending thousands on something do the research and look at hundreds of cars to find the one that fits you and that has a proven track record of success. All the reviews i read said 200k+ miles and very little issues. Im at 85k and plan to rid over 200k ill have this car until 2040 unless i get in an accident.
I've never had the mindset of feeling the need to constantly spend money. In fact I've never understood that mindset, it's always bewildered me.
You won't take it to the grave with you
@@exaucemayunga22 That makes no difference to me. I guess I'm just more of a minimalist and therefore don't value items as much as other people
Why did they have a lease with that income?
might have been a luxury car like merc or something that they did not want to fully pay for
It’s really hard to find a 14 GX for $25k that’s a good deal
A no-brainer, if you have the cash then just pay for it.
The only argument against would be the opportunity cost of that money if for example you invested that money and just leased the car would you come out on top at the end of the lease period? I would say it is extremely unlikely.
Lexus Gx? Get a Toyota Highlander or Sienna. Same capabilities and space
you can get something used that is really cool and exciting for under $20k. there are muscle cars and used luxury cars and trucks at that price range that are still in good shape. i don't see any new cars right now that are worth what they are asking.
I bought a 26, 000 mile Toyota with £1500 GBP. Leaving me free to play with whatever 2nd car I want, how I want
Im curious if Dave paid off the debt, he filed bankruptcy on, once he became a millionaire 100x. That would be the moral thing to do right... to pay those that you owed, once you are able?
Lexus is an incredible car! Toyota!
At least it wasnt a Mercedes or a Break My Wallet BMW
Scotty Kilmer approves!
What was the final answer?
It IS hard to write the cheque.
People like leases because it is less than a purchase. They want a car they never have to maintain. No worry about a breakdown etc….
You gotta love how simple Dave's logic is.
Finance it, 5k. Down with 2.5% is like 350 a month
You can buy a brand new car for less than 15k, Mitsubishi Mirage or Toyota Yaris both are budget compacts made cheap and are deliberately made low priced and get 40mpg. Drive them into the ground.
fak that spend a little more and drive with class
is leasing renting or getting a loan best if needing a car cannot be delayed and you have no money to buy ine outright?
She does not NEED a luxury branded car ..... Get a Toyota Sienna or Highlander instead. A 2014 .. so 7 year old car at the time of this video? 25k makes no sense.
$25,000? The average car today cost $48,000.
I wonder if someone has asked the question regarding Tesla. No upkeep, no oil changes, free charging with electric companies over night....safe reliable....its a tough one to argue despite the price. Anyone heard him talk about this?
He thinks $25k car is a waste of money so you think he'd be fine with a $70k electric car? LOL.
@@jamslam5641 25K sitting in your drive way SELL IT SELL EVERYTHING lol. I guess you're right
About the only thing he's said about Teslas is that he doesn't like them, because they don't have an engine that makes noise.
That Lexus SUV is a great car with a V-6, and a total dog bought used with a V-8. The V-8 engine bought used over 100k miles is hugely expensive to maintain and repair compared to other options, which is why new purchasers are so ready to dump them. Maybe Dave shouldn't be giving car purchase advise.
They make 175 a year.. And the maintenance should pay off in longevity, bigger engines run longer..
I have a 2004 Honda accord with 73k miles on it. I don’t want a car payment.
She doesnt need a lexus veHicle to drive some kids around. But financially she can buy whatever she wants
Anyone that likes Lexus can just got to toyota since it's the same company but with the caveat that Toyota is 25k cheaper usually
No. Get a Prius. Is the only thing that makes sense if you need a 4 door runabout. They’re cheap used and are very safe.
Lexus has a great reliability record. Don't pay extra for an extended warranty if you're not going to use it that much, especially on a vehicle that is reliable.
Good question TBH, when you “suddenly” make more money than to spend this is what happen. Maybe people just don’t understand her position since they don’t have that much money and 0 debt after paying $130k
“SELL THE CAR!”
Why not buy a used Lexus gs used , you save money and depreciation
25k is the price for a used Lexus GX.
@@cnmgetme there's cheaper , GS based on when it was assemble
@@93mlo sounds like shes going for a GX because its an SUV.
u fakers must live in alabama
Just get a Toyota Rav4 and save 20k. Toyota and Lexus are basically the same thing.
My friend worked in car insurance claims and said rav4s get absolutely obliterated in car accidents. You won’t catch me buying one
The more Damage a Car/Truck takes, the Less the Drive receives.
If you go back around 45 years -- deaths at 40mph recks were common, but now they are nearly unheard of. And the reason why they were so common back then was on the fact the cars/trucks were built like a tank and the driver took the full G force of the crash and ended up breaking their necks. Now cars/trucks are made to bend & break in certain areas so the Driver take as little G force as possible.
Edit: Also, you can limit your chances of getting into a reck by a amazing 70+% if you don't text and drive.
Buy a Toyota highlander
Anyone recommend a good car for first time buyer? I am from Canada 🇨🇦 and also buying a second hand luxury car ( Mercedes or corvette ) a good purchase ? Thanks
skip the luxury car and stick to a Toyota or Honda - you wont regret, Corolla Camry or Accord.
Why do people have to take a training course to pay off debt??
I make 67k a year before taxes in nyc is it ok if I buy a 10k car with zero debt
“Take the bus, Save up, pay cash for it. “
Give to your girlfriend
Connor Royale no loans I understand ! Or lease!
Jaime Cruz she gets enough 😆
PAY it in cash no financing
Hate how she says "veHICle".
I'm like..is that how it's suppose to be pronounced?
She pronounces the H in vehicle
Lexus GX!!!! So worth it!
Love the Dave Ramsey.
“Value having money in your account more than spending it on something” underrated comment
I’m blessed to have a 2000 Lexus GS300 one of my lifelong mentors decided to send my way after working in his office for the Summer. Just paying insurance even as a 24 yr old and maintenance is a dream. No payments ever!
I look up that car GX and 2014-2018 are all price around 30k so they hold they value
If she like the car she was leasing why not just buy it once the lease is up? Then at least the money she put into it isint completely wasted? I don’t know I’ve never bought a new car or leased and I’m 53 so at least I dodged that bullet.
Love the look on Dave's face as he's losing 30 IQ points listening to this confused caller.
or spending more time on bus trains vs getting a car?
I will NEVER buy a brand new car. I’m simply not that stupid.
Why does it have to be a Lexus GX? Its not like she s wealthy. You could get a highlander, for 15k.
Anything with a motor depreciates in value. That rule has opened my eyes to car buying. 😊
No
Dave knows nothing about cars. Even a basic Civic goes for $20k nowadays. An entry level mid-sized car goes for $25k. Avg price of cars nowadays is $38k.
Once I bought 1700$ designer bag all night I felt very guilty I returned next day I'm glad I did
but why return it
When people pronounce the “h” in “vehicle”... criiiiiiinge
its ok to pronounce it, just not over pronounce it 👍
Pittsburgh accent trust me
how do you pronounce it? Ve-i-cle?
Teeny Verse yeah I guess that’s how I’d write it if I wrote it how I pronounced it.