Did the mod to my 3080ti HP OEM card, which used the same cooling solution as a 3080. Turned out the core temps got way worse than before after the mod. Core temps would hit 83-degree thermal limit and resulted in sub 300w power draw and base 1600mhz core clock, while it was at 78 degrees top before the mod. The reason was that the thermal pads were too effective and the memory temp rarely went over 70 degrees after the mod under load. It was competing with the GPU core for the limited amount of total cooling capacity. I reopened the card, cut all the thermal pads I placed on memory in half in width, so the pads only covered half of the memory chips. This time the thermals were much better. In a 15 minute GPU load test, core temp stayed under 75 degrees at all times while the memory temp hovered around 80 degrees. GPU-z didn't complain about thermal at all times. And then core clock stayed above 1800mhz in the process. Guess it all came down to balance your core and memory temps with the amount of thermal pads placed on the memory chips. Btw the paste I used was Arctic mx6, which was pretty decent.
I’m about to take on this job within the next week! What size thermal pads did you use and where? The video description says use 1mm but also lists 1.5mm for the materials. I’m also interested in how well that Mx-6 is working for you. I am between just using my Thermal grizzly Kryonaut or people say to use thicker stuff like thermalright tfx due to less pump out.
@@Trevor2497 I used 85x45x1.5mm Thermalright thermal pads, which were just enough for the job if only covering the center half of the memory chips. Mx-6 lowered the core temp by another 1-2 degrees, comparing with Mx-4. It is affordable, and an 8-gram tube should last you a long time.
Low Ram temps with high core temp is a pad thickness issue, not a cooling load issue. 1.5mm is too thick a pad, 1mm is the proper size. With the pads fully covering the ram chips, the cooler wasn’t contacting the core properly. When you took it apart again and trimmed the pads, it probably allowed the pads to squish enough to let the cooler contact the core better. I would definitely advise replacing those pads with properly sized pads.
i have some kind of issue, I bought a sliced cooper from aliexpress for rtx3090 and yes the temps is much better on memory, but on core and hotspot where worse. so i take a gaming test, but the fps are very down at 12-30 fps on any game, i'll take off the cooper and replase with only termal pads 1mm
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Awesome tutorial, thank you! My system was crashing during VR gaming and now it's rock solid again. This mod decreased my memory temperatures by 15-20°C and core approx. 10°C.
Which thermal pads are you using wonder which ones I should buy (thickness and brand). Also which paste. I have the MX4 (a few years old). Can I use it or should I buy new and better one?
@@paulfriedhelm I used MX4, the brand pads are Thermalright, thickness is 0.5 BTW, I have an updated video with all of the details, check it out for more information
OMG thank you so much! This helped me to lower my temps by a lot (I couldn’t even believe it). Now my pc is so quiet sometimes it bothers me 😅. Huge thanks man! Very much deserved like and subscription.
Thanks for this video. One thing that may interest you is the "copper mod" a lot of people are doing to their 3000 series cards, using copper shims instead of the thermal pads. In your case I wouldn't be surprised if you could gain an additional 15-20 degrees Celsius. One thing that is interesting is that the design of this Foxconn card may make that copper mod impossible, or at least more difficult, because a key component is to shield surrounding components from shorts. This PCB looks like it doesn't have that much room adjacent to the memory modules. Even if you decided that mod couldn't be done, I bet you could make a nice 10 minute video explaining why using the footage you already recorded for this one. As your unofficial content advisor, I hope this is of some value to you. :) Love the edits.
Appreciate the feedback, and yes the copper mod is something that I thought about, but because of the design of the cooling solution, it is impossible.
@@HardwareSense Which thickness of the copper shims did you try? 1mm or 0,8mm? Have you tried and failed because of the design / cooling solution or you just imagine it's impossible with copper shims?
@@HardwareSense Hey Dude, you where right - the themal pads should have been enough. I copper modded, but 1mm shims after plaining them dont fit 100 % and in the end get 3 °C more then with the 14wk Pads. I think it must be like 1.2 or 1.1 mm shims. Going back to Pads now.
This is a reference design board FYI. Any reference design cooler will fit on it. I took the HP Omen cooler and put it on my Dell/Alienware 3080. They are interchangable, because both are reference design 3080s This means the reference version of the Corsair waterblock would fit too.
you could also use thermal paste on the metal cover that's on top of the memory chips. that will allow for better heat transfer than just the plain metal to copper touching. dawid showed a 10C improvement just doing this when he modded his dell 3080
Just replacing the thermal paste on my Dell 2060 was worth a drop of 8C for both core and ram. I found frame limiting to 60fps for all apps was a much better option. Card didn’t go into overdrive to render double the frames I need for what I’m playing/working on.
If there would be an award for putting cheapest components in the wrong places - the winner would be probably HP with this PCB. Instead of ceramic packages, let's put cheap ass tower caps (although one can clearly see the PCB designer made space explicitly for ceramic package). Like others, they also did not use parallel placed thallium packages - following others vendors (under the core) put a fat package instead and (despite NVIDIA's recommendation to not do so) hoped for the best. I had the sad experience to use this card, the default "cooling solution" would pretty much get capped by thermals even on default clocks. Isn't Omen supposed to be some premium segment?
What kind of screw driver did you use for this? Like Phillips or idk what else. Planning on seeing if I have it somewhere home and my gpu is just bugging me with the overheating
Great video man. you are a pro. Btw I bought an Omen 45L and returned the 30L leafblower much better pc. Would love to see a review of that monster some day:)
hi , I am having bad thermal issue on the same card and can you tell me how much the temperature has improved for the thermal pad/paste upgrade you did? also , do you think its possible to modify the gpu cooling to water cool ? if so , would you do a water cool gpu upgrade video ? thanks in advance
You can expect between 5 and 10C drop, depending on the quality of the pads and thermal paste, that's pretty much it, nothing much more can be improved.
My 3080 has 88/96celsius memory temp while gaming. And I know the thermal pads on vram is not optimal because i did this mod and I was out of pads. Is 88/96c bad temp on memory?
hello. you used 2 types of thermal paste. I don't speak English well, so I don't understand everything. did you put 1 mm for memory, and also 1 mm for the board under the cover?
Any recommendations for a fan replacement that does not add extra width to the card, best fitting inside the case of the card? This jetengine is really really loud. Was happy to find a cheap card but now I am a bit disappointed because it is so noisy. Will do the temp mod but still have to change for other fans to life with it. Thanks for your help.
Good Morning kind sir, Appreciate the content. I see you said in your description not to use the 1.5mm pads. I'm seeing a lot of information out there saying to use 1.5mm and 1mm pads on the 3080, where you are saying to just use the 1mm. Could you elaborate more on your findings, did you measure them etc. I have 8 of these I am going to be doing, (running into thermal throttling issues, and need to move them into a grow tent for summer, so need to tackle these 106-110c mem temps) How many 85x85mm pads do you think I need to buy to do 8 cards? Appreciate it. You may answer this in the video, but would be handy to have in the comments. I'm 10 minutes in and not heard it so far.
@@HardwareSense I imagine if I put card back together, there would be an imprint on the pads, and I would just look for spots without an imprint to determine if greater thickness would be needed? Solid logic?
@@HardwareSense Have you made an update video? Would love to see which pad sizes I should buy before starting the project. Thank you very much for your great video. Helps alot!
hello, i have some tips. First off, you didnt put a pad on the "rogue vrm" chip. theres a set of chip, cap, and vrm that isnt in a row with others. just need a bit of pad on it and the subframe will touch it. thats why your temps might be 'unstable'. on a 3090 it wont matter as much cause it has more ram to cycle through. Second, use HIGH quality paste on the heatsink / subframe. as much as you can stomache. you can use cheap mx4 or mx 5 for the gpu itself. when you paste the gpu just put a big fat blob on it. when you tighten screws, do it slowly. if your paste is too thick then this wont work. 3rd, backplate thermal pads aren't as big of an issue as far as thickness / stiffness is concerned. but still use high quality pads that will compress. i tried putting a bunch of heatsinks on 3080 backplate but ended up removing all that when i did a proper pad /paste replacement. if you deshroud the card and replace with 92mm arctic fans, it will help your temps stay lower and it wont make a ton of noise. HP tries to throttle the fans, but that just leads to temperature creep and really loud gpu fans.
Hey, where's the "rogue vrm" chip on the cards that you mention? Am I blind? Also, are those replacement fans you mentioned direct plug/play replacements?
You should have put a lot of thermal paste on top of where the vram is around the gpu core between that black plate and the copper part of cooler around the gpu which drops vram temps dramatically like this th-cam.com/video/9bdkJUUxUrg/w-d-xo.html
@@DarkIdrees Technically yes, but I grabbed the Maxsun and the Yeston for around $500 straight from NewEgg, a few weeks ago, so used 3080 should be no more than $500
@@HardwareSenseI mean, that 3080 should work on ±1800 MHz 1260 MHz in your test it's really low performance. When 3080 work's on 1260 MHz, it will show lower performance in game/work then 3070 on normal 1800 MHz
@@HardwareSense dislikes aren't supposed to say disabled, how did they get disabled? youtube made the dislike button always show zero, they don't make it display, "disliked disabled" you're the only channel I've seen say that
Did the mod to my 3080ti HP OEM card, which used the same cooling solution as a 3080. Turned out the core temps got way worse than before after the mod. Core temps would hit 83-degree thermal limit and resulted in sub 300w power draw and base 1600mhz core clock, while it was at 78 degrees top before the mod.
The reason was that the thermal pads were too effective and the memory temp rarely went over 70 degrees after the mod under load. It was competing with the GPU core for the limited amount of total cooling capacity. I reopened the card, cut all the thermal pads I placed on memory in half in width, so the pads only covered half of the memory chips. This time the thermals were much better. In a 15 minute GPU load test, core temp stayed under 75 degrees at all times while the memory temp hovered around 80 degrees. GPU-z didn't complain about thermal at all times. And then core clock stayed above 1800mhz in the process. Guess it all came down to balance your core and memory temps with the amount of thermal pads placed on the memory chips.
Btw the paste I used was Arctic mx6, which was pretty decent.
I’m about to take on this job within the next week!
What size thermal pads did you use and where? The video description says use 1mm but also lists 1.5mm for the materials.
I’m also interested in how well that Mx-6 is working for you. I am between just using my Thermal grizzly Kryonaut or people say to use thicker stuff like thermalright tfx due to less pump out.
@@Trevor2497 I used 85x45x1.5mm Thermalright thermal pads, which were just enough for the job if only covering the center half of the memory chips.
Mx-6 lowered the core temp by another 1-2 degrees, comparing with Mx-4. It is affordable, and an 8-gram tube should last you a long time.
Low Ram temps with high core temp is a pad thickness issue, not a cooling load issue. 1.5mm is too thick a pad, 1mm is the proper size. With the pads fully covering the ram chips, the cooler wasn’t contacting the core properly. When you took it apart again and trimmed the pads, it probably allowed the pads to squish enough to let the cooler contact the core better. I would definitely advise replacing those pads with properly sized pads.
i have some kind of issue, I bought a sliced cooper from aliexpress for rtx3090 and yes the temps is much better on memory, but on core and hotspot where worse. so i take a gaming test, but the fps are very down at 12-30 fps on any game, i'll take off the cooper and replase with only termal pads 1mm
Awesome tutorial, thank you! My system was crashing during VR gaming and now it's rock solid again. This mod decreased my memory temperatures by 15-20°C and core approx. 10°C.
Great to hear!
Which thermal pads are you using wonder which ones I should buy (thickness and brand). Also which paste. I have the MX4 (a few years old). Can I use it or should I buy new and better one?
@@paulfriedhelm I used MX4, the brand pads are Thermalright, thickness is 0.5
BTW, I have an updated video with all of the details, check it out for more information
OMG thank you so much! This helped me to lower my temps by a lot (I couldn’t even believe it). Now my pc is so quiet sometimes it bothers me 😅. Huge thanks man! Very much deserved like and subscription.
Thanks for this video. One thing that may interest you is the "copper mod" a lot of people are doing to their 3000 series cards, using copper shims instead of the thermal pads. In your case I wouldn't be surprised if you could gain an additional 15-20 degrees Celsius. One thing that is interesting is that the design of this Foxconn card may make that copper mod impossible, or at least more difficult, because a key component is to shield surrounding components from shorts. This PCB looks like it doesn't have that much room adjacent to the memory modules. Even if you decided that mod couldn't be done, I bet you could make a nice 10 minute video explaining why using the footage you already recorded for this one. As your unofficial content advisor, I hope this is of some value to you. :) Love the edits.
Appreciate the feedback, and yes the copper mod is something that I thought about, but because of the design of the cooling solution, it is impossible.
@@HardwareSense Which thickness of the copper shims did you try? 1mm or 0,8mm? Have you tried and failed because of the design / cooling solution or you just imagine it's impossible with copper shims?
@@makileon3526 I decided not to use copper shims, although could have been a better choice, but I am happy with the new thermal pads and paste
@@HardwareSense Hey Dude, you where right - the themal pads should have been enough. I copper modded, but 1mm shims after plaining them dont fit 100 % and in the end get 3 °C more then with the 14wk Pads. I think it must be like 1.2 or 1.1 mm shims. Going back to Pads now.
@@makileon3526 Yes the pads are the optimal mod for this card, it's not really worth doing anything else
I watched your video, and here are my results: before: 67 GPU, 104 memory, 78 hotspot. After: 59 GPU, 88 memory, 70 hotspot. Thanks!
This is a reference design board FYI. Any reference design cooler will fit on it. I took the HP Omen cooler and put it on my Dell/Alienware 3080. They are interchangable, because both are reference design 3080s This means the reference version of the Corsair waterblock would fit too.
the problem with this model is no direct contact with vram and heatsink ,you must add ARCTIC MX-4 between heatsink andd metal on the vram
Yep that works
you could also use thermal paste on the metal cover that's on top of the memory chips. that will allow for better heat transfer than just the plain metal to copper touching. dawid showed a 10C improvement just doing this when he modded his dell 3080
Thanks for your information. I already did that job a few months ago.
Fantastic video!! Thank you so much for posting this my HP 3080 GTX has been running crazy hot. I will be performing these steps this week!! Subbed!
Check out the updated version of the video, appreciate the support
@@HardwareSense updated? Could you link it for me please?
@@conqueringstocks Here it is - th-cam.com/video/y8G8EQ8HQ4g/w-d-xo.html
@@HardwareSense Thank you
At back you need to put 3mm pads. This will push pcb to cooling system. In my situation this helps. Front as guy say 1mm and 1,5mm
How thick was the thermal pads again?
why my hot spot is more than 98 degree always. Even Powerlimit to 70%...
thank you, i have thermal strips on my back plate so it didnt just fall off like yours. i was looking for more screws!
Just replacing the thermal paste on my Dell 2060 was worth a drop of 8C for both core and ram. I found frame limiting to 60fps for all apps was a much better option. Card didn’t go into overdrive to render double the frames I need for what I’m playing/working on.
If there would be an award for putting cheapest components in the wrong places - the winner would be probably HP with this PCB. Instead of ceramic packages, let's put cheap ass tower caps (although one can clearly see the PCB designer made space explicitly for ceramic package). Like others, they also did not use parallel placed thallium packages - following others vendors (under the core) put a fat package instead and (despite NVIDIA's recommendation to not do so) hoped for the best. I had the sad experience to use this card, the default "cooling solution" would pretty much get capped by thermals even on default clocks. Isn't Omen supposed to be some premium segment?
Yes indeed
would you buy this if its cheap? or is it gona crap out in just a year or two, or with overclocking etC?
@@Tantium I am still using mine almost 2 years later, and you don't need to overclock, 3080 can handle everything on max
What kind of screw driver did you use for this? Like Phillips or idk what else. Planning on seeing if I have it somewhere home and my gpu is just bugging me with the overheating
Simple Phillips one
Great video man. you are a pro. Btw I bought an Omen 45L and returned the 30L leafblower much better pc. Would love to see a review of that monster some day:)
I would love to review the 45L, it looks a lot better and well thought out design with more ventilation, but it is so expensive.
@@HardwareSense yes. I paid 3000$ for rtx 3080 I9 12900k 32gb ram 2tb m2 ssd. Its expensive
@@NicoDicken Yes indeed
hi , I am having bad thermal issue on the same card and can you tell me how much the temperature has improved for the thermal pad/paste upgrade you did? also , do you think its possible to modify the gpu cooling to water cool ? if so , would you do a water cool gpu upgrade video ? thanks in advance
You can expect between 5 and 10C drop, depending on the quality of the pads and thermal paste, that's pretty much it, nothing much more can be improved.
My 3080 has 88/96celsius memory temp while gaming. And I know the thermal pads on vram is not optimal because i did this mod and I was out of pads. Is 88/96c bad temp on memory?
Yes that is a good memory temperature
@@HardwareSense ah thanx, i tough they should be low70c to 80c. At what memory temp does it start to get trubbly?
@@-OEG None of my 3080s have a memory temperature under 80C, with 22C ambient
@@HardwareSense ah, okey. Thanxk for reply 👍 i have ordered new thermal pads so gonna put them on anyways.
Do you think it's worth it to pick one of these up for cheap? About 500 usd. I'm thinking about deshrouding it and using some noctua fans
Under $500, definitely. I will have an updated video next week with a lot of new information
hello. you used 2 types of thermal paste. I don't speak English well, so I don't understand everything. did you put 1 mm for memory, and also 1 mm for the board under the cover?
Correct, both 1mm thermal pads
Thanks for the video. Good job
Any recommendations for a fan replacement that does not add extra width to the card, best fitting inside the case of the card? This jetengine is really really loud. Was happy to find a cheap card but now I am a bit disappointed because it is so noisy. Will do the temp mod but still have to change for other fans to life with it. Thanks for your help.
Mine runs super quiet with the repasting and reading, there are no after market replacement fans, since it's a custom board.
@@HardwareSense what do you mean by „reading”? Sorry, I’m no native English speaker.
What are the size of these 3 fans? 75mm and 85mm like the 3090?
2x80mm, 1x90mm
@@HardwareSense Thank you, now to find a replacement set.
@@dennism316 They are all over AliExpress
@@HardwareSense How much space would there be left to put regular fans if the top case with the fans are removed? Thanks
Good Morning kind sir, Appreciate the content. I see you said in your description not to use the 1.5mm pads. I'm seeing a lot of information out there saying to use 1.5mm and 1mm pads on the 3080, where you are saying to just use the 1mm. Could you elaborate more on your findings, did you measure them etc. I have 8 of these I am going to be doing, (running into thermal throttling issues, and need to move them into a grow tent for summer, so need to tackle these 106-110c mem temps) How many 85x85mm pads do you think I need to buy to do 8 cards? Appreciate it. You may answer this in the video, but would be handy to have in the comments. I'm 10 minutes in and not heard it so far.
On the HP version like mine, use 1mm. I found out that the 1.5mm are too thick
Can I imagine same EXACT (everything) for HP Omen 30L 3080 Ti card was well? All the same spots and just 1 mm oads all the way around?
@@whatheheckdoidonow I am not sure, but if they were lazy and kept the design, maybe it is.
@@HardwareSense I imagine if I put card back together, there would be an imprint on the pads, and I would just look for spots without an imprint to determine if greater thickness would be needed? Solid logic?
@@whatheheckdoidonow Yes good thinking
Man i did this and followed your video perfectly and my temps are dramatically worse under load 15c more i used 1mm pads and mx4 paste
You need to use 1.5 mm Pads
What thickness thermal pads do you recommend for this mod?
Get the 0.5mm ones, I am going to do an updated video actually very soon with different brand pads
@@HardwareSense bruh i just did this with 1mm and my temps are higher than before
@@HardwareSense Have you made an update video? Would love to see which pad sizes I should buy before starting the project. Thank you very much for your great video. Helps alot!
@@HardwareSense waiting for the updated video!
@@SchweboTV It is been up for a while
hello, i have some tips.
First off, you didnt put a pad on the "rogue vrm" chip. theres a set of chip, cap, and vrm that isnt in a row with others. just need a bit of pad on it and the subframe will touch it. thats why your temps might be 'unstable'. on a 3090 it wont matter as much cause it has more ram to cycle through.
Second, use HIGH quality paste on the heatsink / subframe. as much as you can stomache. you can use cheap mx4 or mx 5 for the gpu itself. when you paste the gpu just put a big fat blob on it. when you tighten screws, do it slowly. if your paste is too thick then this wont work.
3rd, backplate thermal pads aren't as big of an issue as far as thickness / stiffness is concerned. but still use high quality pads that will compress.
i tried putting a bunch of heatsinks on 3080 backplate but ended up removing all that when i did a proper pad /paste replacement. if you deshroud the card and replace with 92mm arctic fans, it will help your temps stay lower and it wont make a ton of noise. HP tries to throttle the fans, but that just leads to temperature creep and really loud gpu fans.
Hey, where's the "rogue vrm" chip on the cards that you mention? Am I blind?
Also, are those replacement fans you mentioned direct plug/play replacements?
@@whatheheckdoidonowYEs, tell me Replacement Fan.. I am interessed
What is the high quality paste and pads you would recommend?
My 3080 ti tuf dont go more than 90c on memory
You should have put a lot of thermal paste on top of where the vram is around the gpu core between that black plate and the copper part of cooler around the gpu which drops vram temps dramatically like this th-cam.com/video/9bdkJUUxUrg/w-d-xo.html
Planning on getting one of these on ebay its 600us rn
Seems a lot
@@HardwareSense thats 100usd under the 3080 msrp? And its brand new
@@DarkIdrees Technically yes, but I grabbed the Maxsun and the Yeston for around $500 straight from NewEgg, a few weeks ago, so used 3080 should be no more than $500
@@HardwareSense oh fr? Damn maybe i should check newegg...last time bought from them i got a broken item and no refund...but i guess ill give em a try
@@HardwareSense just checked newegg the yeston went up to 780
i dont get point of this video you record everything and then you dont show result temperatures lol
The temps are in the vid.
1260 MHz on GPU?
At 3080?
Maybe you should buy 3070 for the same price with normal cooling system and get better results then this 1260 garbage?
Not sure what are you referring to
@@HardwareSenseI mean, that 3080 should work on ±1800 MHz
1260 MHz in your test it's really low performance.
When 3080 work's on 1260 MHz, it will show lower performance in game/work then 3070 on normal 1800 MHz
@@LLIkiper This one is normally running at 1860mhz
@@HardwareSense maybe, but I'm spoken about your test ( 14:35 ) where your GPU works only on 1260 MHz.
@@LLIkiper That's a temp stuff when none demanding work is happening
dislikes disabled why? i was gonna like the video until I saw that
They are disabled by TH-cam my dude
@@HardwareSense dislikes aren't supposed to say disabled, how did they get disabled? youtube made the dislike button always show zero, they don't make it display, "disliked disabled" you're the only channel I've seen say that
@@roboticvenom1935 he doesn't have control over it. It's a change that TH-cam made apparently.
@@ghost_of_m403 NO read my reply.
It says DISLIKES DISABLED
It doesn't say that for ANY other channel, it just won't display any.
@@roboticvenom1935 Go sleep