Tesla Before Elon: The Untold Story
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A popular myth on the internet is that Elon Musk created Tesla. While he was instrumental to the company's success, the founding of Tesla is a largely unknown, yet fascinating story!
Tesla was the brainchild of Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning, who created the first Tesla Roadster model and subsequently invited Elon Musk to an early funding round for the company. Eventually, a personal conflict resulted in the co-founders leaving, with Elon Musk taking the center stage in the company since then.
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Great episode, I definitely was under the impression Musk founded Tesla too. Gotta say, your original voice of the channel was much more unique. A classy british man is fine, but it's a bit cliche.
In the longest shareholder meeting to date (in 2016 i think), Musk did acknowledge and thanked the two original Tesla founders. th-cam.com/video/AKfiKvbqbQw/w-d-xo.html
This sounds like the voice Internet Historian wishes he had.
didn't expect to see you here, nice to know you are though
TierZoo Honestly the best part about you TierZoo, is that you feel like a real dude because you are just watching TH-cam like everyone else and you leave a large trail of breadcrumbs.
AttilaTheBuns watching TH-cam is the best way to learn how to TH-cam! And it's always cool for me when I get comments from other youtubers, so I assume others feel the same way. That's one of the reasons I like to comment on basically everything I watch.
Its like he's narrating a disney story.
Hahaha right!!!
But in a business sense though
🤣😂🤣
He’s also got Disney’s facts on a few key points making Musk looks like the bad guy.
So glad to see you back!
Thanks man, glad to be back!
I literately was watching your video before this one, good video btw
Keep em coming! This is fantastic, and way more topical than Cold Fusion (as amazing as they are).
My Channel He is good and all, but cold fusion have some contacts and many times he interview people in his videos.
PolyMatter Hi
This video is so distracting because of how fluid, beautiful, and impressive the visual effects are! From the text to the transitions, I really enjoyed watching it all!
Not that the new voice is bad, but I already miss the old voice
On the debut in 2006, Eberhard took all the credit for new design and ignored Musk’s contribution in design change as well as increased battery efficiency which Musk single handedly resolved. Which, saved the company, not to mention his significant fund injection of $7.5 millions.
The NYT article pissed Musk off. And, that was the end of Eber-dumbass-hard
The Boring Company isn't involved in the Hyperloop.
They're two different ventures tackling different problems.
Boring Company = underground tunnel network for cars to avoid congested roads.
Hyperloop = a new form of transportation that carries pods of people in a vacuum tube.
You need to make an episode on how Musk ousted Eberhard (again) from SpaceX, after Eberhard invented the reusable rocket.
I was of the original customers who pre-ordered the Roadster and waited impatiently for a year and a half through delay after delay. It was a huge shock to everyone in our little community when Martin Eberhard was ousted and this "Musk" guy who we knew little about stepped in. The biggest change I observed in Tesla's policies was that they were enormously transparent under Eberhard, sharing astonishing amounts of information about the ongoing development of the car, which gave those of us on the waiting list a lot of confidence and enthusiasm. After Musk took over, Tesla became the notoriously secretive (much like Apple!) company that it is today.
Sounds like my granddad's telling me war stories. Delivery is too slow and soft. I like your videos because you pack in huge amounts of info into 10 minutes. And I quite liked the old voice. The fact that it wasn't a pro made it feel more authentic.
I thought it was common knowledge. :) If elon started the company all by himself it would be called CarX. :)
One error I noticed right away. Hyperloop and Boring Company are not the same entity. Boring company is building subterranean tunnels to transport Tesla’s downtown while hyperloop is an above ground vacuum tube between cities transporting people at high speed in specialized pods.
THANK YOU! Regardless of my admiration and respect for Elon Musk and his achievements, I’ve known this story from since I first heard of Tesla. (Even had some people not believing me when I told it) It’s great someone made a video like this to bring the true origin history of Tesla to light. Eberhard and Tarpenning should get the credit they deserve for creating the vision and foundation this groundbreaking company.
Sadly this vid promotes self promoting lies put about by Eberhart. Elon and JB were co founders of Tesla from day one. It was Elon that approached AC propulsion about using their tech, Elon who approached Eberhart about forming Tesla, and Elon’s Castro g vote that appointed Eberhart as CEO
@@andrewpaulhart where did u get this from?
@@andrewpaulhart LOL dude... this is a matter of public record so here you go: the documents for incorporation are available as a matter of public record. Elon Musk's name was not on those documents. He never started the company.
@@sheldoncooper0 Eberhart paid for a company to be incorporated called Tesla motors. Until Elon invested it had no tech, no assets, no investment, no employees. Call that “founding a company” if you like, but practically it means nothing.
@@andrewpaulhart Yes I'm aware of the fact that it had no assets. But it did have the initial idea and employees and investment (Elon was in fact one of the seed investors). Elon did lead the company in creating it's first car though, that is true. But nevertheless, he didn't found the company.
I wonder why they where fired, it reminds me of Ray Kroc firing the Mcdonnald brothers for not helping as much to grow the company they started, and well, we only give credit to Kroc, because it doesnt matter who starts a company, only who made it grow. Just like the original Nikola Tesla being over shadowed by Edison, history will only remember Elon Musk
This is absolutely true, and I never thought about it that way.
Hello, Glad you are back, I do really enjoy your videos. Please keep up the great work.
I would however need to comment on this video...
Having ideas is just that, an idea. A dreamer, a thinker.
Making it into everyone's mindsets and getting it to the hands of people takes a lot more than just ideas and designs.
The great people you see in the history books are not the ones who thought of the idea first, its the ones who actually walked that path and succeeded (or not succeeded).
Im sorry to say but there are many great people out there with brilliant ideas, unfortunately it takes significantly more than an idea to have something successful. In fact, you can argue, do you need a good idea to make something successful..?
In any case, I personally think that having the vision of success with the patience/grit to find the good idea deserves more credit than just the ideas themselves.
Yesterday was thinking about when you guys will have another video. Happy to see this!
Oh man I missed you guys so much, your videos are great, and the subject is always so well researched and easy to digest. Keep it up
It is the same story for many companies; brains with not enough money, meets business acumen with lots of money.
Please bring back the old voice, thank you.
-Sincerely, everyone.
These 2 men who started Tesla are great BUT the hard bit which includes Musk’s plan for the Model S, Model X and Model 3 was entirely Elon Musk’s doing.
Would Tesla with these two at the helm be the same Tesla we see today? Probably not.
So they did well.
I’m still going to give Elon Musk the credit though.
I think we are still a long way off Electric Vehicles being mainstream world wide. Elon Musk has speeded up this evolution considerably.
Elon Musk has proved himself with:
1) Paypal
2) Tesla
3) SpaceX
4) Solar City
5) The Gigafactory
I mean any one of these companies would be an amazing achievement. Elon Musk was big in all 3.
Not to mention Zip 2 and his other companies on top.
These guys are like Steve Wozniak. They are amazing BUT we all tend to think of Steve Jobs as the driving force of Apple. Even Tim Cook struggles to live up to Steve Jobs as a CEO.
I have only known a few amazing world changing CEO’s:
1) Steve Jobs - iPod, iPhone, MacBook, iOS
2) Elon Musk - Tesla, SpaceX, PayPal, Solar City, Tesla Model S, X and 3, Tesla Powerwall and Tesla Gigafactory.
3) Bill Gates - Windows, Microsoft Office, Xbox
4) Tim Cook - Air Pods, Apple Watch, iPhone X and MacBook Pro, and IMac.
I mean these CEO’s were next level. Some may challenge me on Tim Cook but I’ll give him credit for the Air Pods and the Apple Watch which are amazing.
Eberhard & Tarpening!
To Infinity & Beyond!
he might have created tesla, but elon brought it to life
get the old guy back his voice was more casual.
In fact I wish everyone knew what I know. The truth of the matter is, Martin has no means of funding the company. The company was sinking day in day out. When Musk joined, he became the backbone of the company fueling the company with his pocket money, to keep them afloat. Martin was still the CEO but he was too slow and failing to convert their investment into profit. Things were not actually moving. It was at this point when other executives of the company behind Martin met with Elon to tell him about becoming the CEO, since he's the one funding and also to allow him make exclusive decisions. Musk accepted the offer because if the company fails, he'll be the biggest looser, all his investments will go down the drain. He came in and changed everything.
The entire video is very good, except that the speaker comes over as VERY patronizing (one example being how he said "Lithium Ion Battery" at 3:06)
Lacksi as an actual English person, that accent is entirely fake.
I agree
It is a comic parody of an English accent, ^oo^
If it wasn't for the business skills and vision of Elon Musk, there is exactly ZEOR percent chance Tesla would be where it is today.
Musk is nothing more than just a rich narcissistic white kid. He's overrated and nothing close to a "genius *
Is this the stanley parable?
How about the history of an online newspaper, like the U.S. Huffington Post or the U.K. Daily Mail?
Every rich person I've ever heard cannot run away from the word DIVORCE 🤣
Sounds more if AC propulsion was the real inventors here. Martin just organised a new Lotus body for it...
Actually although AC propulsion provided the original inspiration for Tesla, they ended up using practically none of their technology in the roadster.
I just realized that's Martin in the space suit. Elon drugged him and put him in the rocket.
Hahaha maybe he did.
😂😂😂😂
Musk army downvoting
King Bad as Trump fanboys
In my school days in Connecticut very long ago in the 1950's my teacher was convinced that Henry Ford invented the automobile, in part because a common textbook had a picture of Ford and the first automobile that he himself had built for his wife. That sort of error in thinking is far more common that some suppose. Like any enterprise, there are a lot of players around at the start who may or may not have made major contributions. Ford also got credit for the assembly line and Elon himself seems enamored of the River Rouge plant that Ford built to produce the Model T where raw materials came in at the docks and fully cars came out the other end. SpaceX, whose beginnings you left out of this story nearly bankrupted Musk, but Eberhard and Tarpenning never gambled as big as Elon did on either enterprise. Had they continued as they were, bumbling about with a boutique sports car company, Tesla could not have reach the heights it has today, and had not Ford been the executive he envisioned himself to be that company would not have had the focus to get to be what it is today.
I once worked with Alan Cocconi briefly. His T-zero was amazing for its time, much more capable on the road than the EV-1 that GM produced from the Aerovironment 'Impact' prototype EV it was based upon. Alan had developed the Impact motor drive system as an independent contractor, and then went on to build AC Propulsion afterwards. The T-Zero but was missing many creature comforts but its ability with his drive system could beat the EV-1 that GM completely redesigned from the cultural biases that the Impact had not been built "in house".
Elon and his people at Tesla then took the AC propulsion design, which was analog in nature and completely redesigned it, partly because they couldn't get their heads around Alan's genius level analog design. For a time the AC Propulsion induction motor had a more broad power curve than brushless DC/permanent magnet automobile motor designs, which was why it is still used in the Tesla Model S and X, but it seems the other auto manufacturers have driven the permanent magnet designs to be more suitable for an automotive power curve and reached higher EPA curve efficiencies. So the Model 3, while still quite different from their designs has added the PM component into the new Tesla motors and Alan Cocconi's ideas of thirty years ago have at last been superceded int the way that Henry Ford's Model T was in about the same time frame.
Paul Gracey
Great post.
Click for the topic, stay for the narrator.
1.5x speed.
This isn't exactly untold. Individual TH-cam channels aren't the world. You can literally just read the Wikipedia pages.
The irony! Should be called: Edison
Like the Lotus body was there in the beginning, the AC Propulsion, Eberhard & Tarpenning pieces were all part of the initial puzzle.
I understand he says that "Without Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning Tesla would not exist". I think you can say the same about Elon, since he invested all that money.
It's a shame that the original founders don't get credit for the creation on Tesla however without Elon taking a huge risk and investing millions into a failing startup and introducing new engineering talent, there would be no Tesla today. Elon deserves the credit for the company and CEO status.
Dinnerbone is a Patreon Patron! Because that upside down thing can’t be a coincidence 😄
This channel earned another sub because of the luvley voices in your voices!! :D
So the founders were superheroes because they got an idea to combine two existing products but did not have the competence to actually pull it off? And Musk is 'enigmatic villain' because he provided the money as well the leadership drive to make it a reality?
Billions of people have great ideas everyday, the only skill or greatness is in turning the idea into reality.
yep, the video skipped the part where the founders made huge mistakes that are still costing Tesla millions today.
People always over-value ideas and under-value execution.
@@davidbeppler3032 You know why? Because that never happened! Elon was the one loosing millions after he stole the company and made the Model 3. Sure its affordable, but it lost Tesla millions! The stocks plummeted like never before!
@@josephbella8401 I do not understand where you are coming from. They made the Roadster very well, by having proof of concept, making sure to to be cheap with parts, and make the product better for consumers.
@@tanushreebiswas9432 yes the stock went from $186/share split 5x and went to $650+/share. Elon lost millions and made billions.
Why didn't you mention that when Martin was ousted as a CEO, Michael Marks was installed as an interim CEO and after he left Ze'ev Drori was a CEO.
Boring Comany NEVER mentioned to build a hyperloop!!! Hyperloop was announced 2012(?) but Boring Comany was founded 2016.
Carpe diem That is Correct. I think they misunderstood the company. I noticed it as well
Martin was not dedicated .. he did not invest as much as Elon and did not get major investors Elon had to do that himself to protect his investments .. its business and CEO has to be a strong leader for it to be successful.. does not matter who Elon had started with he would have push it to being successful or die trying .. you can’t say that about Martin plus Mark was in the same meeting when they had to push down Martin so it’s not like Martin don’t know the true reasons as well..
I don’t know why but I preferred the old voice way more. It doesn’t feel right watching this channel without the other guy commentating
It is not about who had founded the tesla but it is about who had putten spirit in tesla.
Thanks again America
I Love the new voice, sounds professional
I personally fell that if it wasnt Tesla it would have been another electric car company that Elon would have brought into the spotlight. He was destined to make good things happen
This here is just a tip of the iceberg. If anyone's interested in challenging the carefully crafted public propaganda that is Elon's genius, check out "Common Sense Skeptic" videos about Musk projects like Neuralink, Boring Company, SpaceX and Solar City - they all pretty much reek with just blatant lies by Musk himself and his need to take credit for other people's work, most of which were the result of his own megalomania and too much scifi stuff consumption. I was big fan of Musk back in the day, but after I started to dig deeper, I started thinking that the truth about people like him must be exposed
Absolutely recommended
I disagree with the author of this video. Elon had decided he wanted to build an electric car before he made the investment. He would have done it on his own, it just wouldn't have been called Tesla.... The story that this video author cleverly left out so that he could give his biased version is: the two co-creators designed a Tesla Roadster that cost $140,000 to produce yet they had taken deposits to sell it for a $100,000!... This miss management was the reason they were ousted... It wasn't just Elon it was the whole board.
just my two cents, I don't like the new voice or the lack of business information, I hope you make the channel profitable again, and its great to see new videos, but I like the old stuff.
this voice makes me imagine an old bearded story teller type fellow with a pipe.
this video is full of falsehoods and blasphemies against of our lord elon musk
Not sure if you were joking, but what you day is actually true. Elon was a founder of Tesla. In fact it was his casting vote that appointed Eberhart as CEO
@@andrewpaulhart It is not true, Andy, he had nothing to do with Tesla before Martin!
Elon wouldn't able to send a car to Mars, he will have to go to Mars without a car xD
there's nothing enigmatic about musk.
He's a super rich egotist who pays smart people to make his personal dreams a reality then takes the credit for it. Getting tired of him being childishly refereed to as the real life tony stark. It's ridiculous. All he does is throw money at a problem until someone solves it. Someone smarter than he is. And someone who never gets the credit. It's ironic in the extreme that tesla is the name of his cars... The real tesla being one of the greatest minds in human history very nearly wiped off the pages of history by a man with a lot of money and power...Edison, Just like musk has wiped Eberhard out of the history books.... But no problem... the groupies love Musk blaa blaa. Some of us have longer memories and are not idiots.
P.S. Been here since you had less than 5k subs. Prefer your original narration. I see no good reason to change that.
You started that comment very well and indeed made good points. Albeit they are totally irrelevant to my original comment. He's smart, sure, he's still not tony stark and he's still not doing any of the innovation. He's just Steve Jobs in a new suit. He's successful. Sure. Who said he wasn't. Then you finished your comment like a child. It's bizarre. I don't hate musk, I very much dislike his childish groupies and their almost cultish behavior and defense of him.
I can tell only this, it looks like a pretty weak save of a silly comment you now realize was a silly comment only after it got pointed out to you. Better to edit the comment then try to save it.
DAGATHire Yeah but let’s be real - Elon is the kind of guy you go after at the bar, it’s not so much work, you can just fuck him right away. If Elon came into your room and took his pants down and then pulled your pants down, you would do it. You would coom all over him, anybody would.
Look another juvenile cultists ^^
can't you tell that's why i trolled you at the end? =)
Good but when all electronic cars share information on speed and Terrain each system will be able to compare info even faster, much better than standalone systems making cars way safer because each car can have a better map as well always adding to the memory and safety in real time, a update would be simple and smart.
The world is full of people with good ideas. Takes a genius with vision and drive to see it through, and take it to the next level...Tesla would be just another start up without Elon.
But u forgot to mention the star JB straubal... He's the guy behind lithium ion battery...
wow that narrator spoke so slowly it killed me
@3:57 is that a proper sound effect for a electric sports car?
Definitely not the real heroes. They may have started it but it was a mess... until the ground-up Model S was built under Elon’s leadership. Anybody can start a company. Making a success of it is the difficult bit ... genius !!!
Your history lesson forgot to mention that Tesla was going bankrupt, and when Musk took control turn the company around and not by putting money (he didn't have any, he has invested all in spaceX).
Both side make great contribution in Tesla history, without Martin & Marc there is no birth to Tesla and without Elon Musk the Tesla will no survive (bankruptcy) and become great electric car company.
Sadly this vid promotes self promoting lies put about by Eberhart. Elon and JB were
co founders of Tesla from day one, as anyone can verify if they look up the public ally available details of the original investors. Elon independently approached AC propulsion about using their tech. It was Elon who approached Eberhart about forming Tesla, and Elon’s casting vote that appointed Eberhart as CEO. Eberhart was fired because he had been lying to the board of Tesla about the financial state of the company.
Imagine being martin eberhard
Great video! Only like the old voice a bit more.
Best documentary ever
Elon would have found another company, without Tesla. He was set up to invest his money in sustainable transport anyway.
I for some reason thought you were ColdFusion for a moment, must have been the thumbnail. Anyways glad you are back.
Abyssinia Empire yeah same
Yep
Same. That thumbnail and the topic of the video tricked me
lol me too
Me too XD
I'm happy that there's a new video and all but where's the voice of the channel?
No, same owner, but a new voice from the channel SideQuest.
The starter of the channel got kicked off in a meeting were he wasn't present. lol just kidding.
Non of these guys would be here without Nikola Tesla, the real OG nobody talks about.
I mean... the cars are named after Tesla so....... what else do you want? Its not like he's putting out the model Edison or something.
Stfu
How could you say nobody talks about him when the company itself was named as his lastname? XD
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This was the most enjoyable video in the long time. Please keep up!
Shame it is full of in accuracies and falsehoods
It seems pretty clear that the reason Elon is so prominently positioned in the company is a combination of his other endeavors being so ambitious and publicly covered, and the fact that Tesla's real success didn't start until the Tesla Model S released in 2012, well after the original founders left. The original Roadster sold a total of 2500 units in its four year run and the Model S has sold over 200,000 to date. It's not reasonable to erase history, but you don't need to give credit to the founders for achievements that happened after they left - and those achievements are what made Tesla what it is today.
In the movie "Pirates of the Silicon Valley" it's made clear Microsoft AND Apple were stealing almost everything in terms of software (I'm not overlooking the absolute genius of Woz, but that was hardware), and they didn't even give any credit or anything of the sort. Elon essentially bought Tesla and made it into what it is today. In all fairness, it's a Cisco story, and Elon came out on top because he had the initial funds - but he also took a risk.
I don't see the point in sucking the dicks of the founders of Tesla anymore than you would want to suck the dick of the founders of Cisco, or the engineers at Xerox. Elon made this happen, not those guys. (yeah, I'm sucking Elons dick right now but with good reason).
It has been said that the reason for Eberhards ousting is that he wanted the next model of Tesla to be an even more expensive and faster car than the roadster, in the complete opposite direction of the way Tesla went.
makes sense. it seems eberhard wanted a lamborghini competitor, vs a mainstream sedan. elon wanted a mass market car to accelerate the adoption of renewables. eberhard just wanted to look cool.
The Tesla Model S would not exist without the Tesla Roadster. The Roadster provided the 1) the base technology and 2) some of the initial capital - to develop and bring the Model S to market. Until the Tesla does away with Lithium Ion batteries and upgrades to Mr Fusion powered engines, Martin and Marc definitely deserve credit for Tesla's recent achievements.
RandomChannel I'm sure Tesla with Elon would have been fine without the "initial capital" the Roadster gave them
Excellent, honest representation of the true Tesla story. I'm so tired of Musk worship.
Yeah, me too, people worship him way too much.
@@kevinmuchiri5162 corny as line ☠️ no one knows what tesla would be like if the two guys were still working together
If you believe that bull, you don't know the entire story. Tesla began the success after these 2 left. They were not the ones to make this company to who it is now.
The Boring Company and the HyperLoop are separate things
- the Boring Company is an actual company, interested in boring tunnels underground to ease transportation within a city
- the HyperLoop is a concept, based on the idea of having evacuated metal tubes above ground allowing high-speed travel between cities.
FlyingPhilUK
Exactly. That was sloppy.
FlyingPhilUK actually, the route they talked about on the east coast is largely a boring company tunnel project for the hyperloop. So it's technically true.
Stone love music
And then it turned out to be cars driving in a tunnel yet the fanboys still jizzed over it
Like the train tunnel built under London in 1863. Except less efficient.
That voice, the intonation, the slight sarcasm reminds me a lot of the narrator voice of the movie Hitchhickers Guide To The Galaxy. Compare: th-cam.com/video/h02a2HSB58M/w-d-xo.html
Hey, that's Stephen Fry narrating. I think he did the audiobooks as well.
i think so
Well, thank goodness Martin's wife dumped him or he wouldn't have gone into mid-life crisis mode for a sports car and create Tesla.
So his wife was the one behind it all...
Untold or just nobody cared enough about a company without a face.
Noneof YourBusiness better than your ugly face
@@babygoatjuice9508 That's Noneof YourBusiness.
*raises eyebrows*
Bring back old voice
Love the animation tho
And love everything else too
Actually the voice isn't that bad
Just miss the old voice
this is like me having an inner monologue
Holy shit! So, the body hiding in the "Starman" spacesuit on the space Roadster is actually Martin! :O
Come on do Siemens now!!!!!!
I'm with you
That's going to pretty fucking long.
heh, semens
+Jim, it's not even the worst thing they ever did: inventing the Siemens Air Hook™ was.
Few people know, but the number of industrial apprentices scarred for life by its deviousness is still on the rise.
Good to be back! (In my Iron Man 2 voice)
For all the love we give elon, we need to remember and respect the companies roots
Exactly. Very unfair that many out there still have no idea of who Martin is.
@@theuntetheredman3219 That's because Musk with his legal goons try to purge that information from general public's knowledge.
@@Sizifus Yes, that is true, he makes himself-up like he was the original sole founder.
The company kinda dont give us the tesla we have today because even the updated tesla roadstar is not that big of a thing
He has too much respect really. Such a shady guy. Common Sense Sceptic does reports about his companies in great detail. I suggest you take a look.
In 2008, Elon was the chairman, Great Recession was happening and Tesla was failing. Roadster production was getting delayed, its price skyrocket and Martin as CEO wasn't managing everything well. Elon had a choice, either to let Tesla die or invest all his remaining money from PayPal. I remember one of the videos in 2008, there was Musk coming into Tesla, even though SpaceX was in a dire situation as well, to solve the problems they were facing. In the end, he chose to bankrupt himself and invest rather than to let it die. In order for Tesla not to fall again, ousting Martin and taking up the role himself was the best decision. This isn't like Job's power struggle in Apple, this was to make Tesla stay afloat and alive. Seeing everyone's dreams and efforts, including Martin's, go to drain will be extremely upsetting. So to keep everyone's dreams alive, emerging out as the villain was the best solution. So in the end, I still don't think kicking Martin out was completely evil and unjustified.
Nice video, although I knew about the story, but I had kind of forgotten how late Elon actually took over. In my mind he was the one releasing the roadster. I wish I knew better what the fall out was about. It is really hard to judge whether Elon Musk was a bad guy in this case or not. E.g. were they obviously running the company the wrong way and Elon understood better how to do it, or was this just some kind of ego trip for Elon Musk?
If Elon Musk had only created Tesla it would be a lot easier to dismiss him as taking all the credit. But given his success with SpaceX, it is clear that the man has talent and must have made a significant impact on Tesla.
But I agree that it is unfortunate that the original founders don't get more credit. After all they made the crucial idea of making not any kind of electric car but a sports car, and focusing on lithium ion batteries.
Elon *was* instrumental in releasing the Roadster. Elon got involved in 2004 and the Roadster released 2008. Before Elon got involved, Martin Eberhard and Marc Tappening had only a plan to commercialize the T-Zero from AC propulsion. The shell company wasn't even named Tesla before Elon. Is the founder the person with the original idea, or the person that executes on the idea? I'd argue that you absolutely need both, and both should be considered founders. Tesla never would have released the Roadster and be the company it is today without Musk's execution and funds, same way McDonalds would never have seen its worldwide success without Ray Kroc. Of course, the original idea makers are absolutely due their credit too, like Martin Eberhard and the McDonalds brothers.
I think there is some rewriting of history on both sides of the story but, there's no doubt that without Elon Musk, Tesla, would not exist today. Elon came on the scene when Tesla had run out of funds, the roadster was nowhere near ready for market & Eberhard & co had visions for nothing more than expensive sports cars.
The product brain was AC propulsion. The marketing and design brain was Elon. Ebenhart did not contribute a lot. I think he was responsible for a lot of bad decisions. Luckily Elon was in the background and saved Tesla from Ebenhart who would have killed Tesla.
I like that you're back and the better video editing, but I like the old voice better !
I miss the old voice... German accents > English!
One thing I'll miss from narrating is watching people guess where my accent is from :P
Well it will always be German in my heart. I'll miss your calming tone.
You have to start doing it again! Your voice is awesome
I thought he was Romanian or maybe Bulgarian, definitely not German.
I think either scandinavian or eastern europe
I'm missing the point where Tesla almost went bankrupt in 2008 and where Elon Musk not only rescued the company with his last remaining money but also by changing a lot of things that were going wrong in the development, production and the business of this company.
Yes the two founder of Tesla had a great idea but Elon Musk together with JB Straubel made it into a working company.
The very reason why Eberhart was booted off was about Tesla burning through cash at alarming rate, while he failed at ramping up the production of the Roadster.
That's exactly what I wanted to point out. Thank you for confirming.
At the moment I would not call Tesla a working company. Until now Tesla has not turned a profit. I t has made a lost for nearly 10 years, surviving only on the huge amount of investor money that Musk is able to attack.
@@Haos666 Sounds a lot like Tesla today. Still burning through cash at an alarming rate. Still having trouble ramping up production.
Troy Savary lol u think narrow minded. Look at what people were saying about amazon, and what amazon is know. Same will happen to tesla. The future is electric.
Only God knows what will happen if the founders stayed as CEO. Probably Tesla ends up like Fisker going bankrupt. The fact that Tesla can survive and thrive is mind boggling.
I loved your videos and listening to your voice but this narrator is too slow for my liking and I just can't listen to him for longer than 3 minutes
I had always though Elon Musk was the founder of Tesla. Thank you indeed for telling me otherwice.
Hyperloop is made by SpaceX not Boring Company
Hyperloop is being developed by 3 companies that have nothing to do with Elon musk other than being inspired by his paper on hyperloop concept .. the leading of which is virgin hyperloop one. SpaceX has nothing to do with hyperloop
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It's true of course that Musk was not the original founder of Tesla, but to discount his role in the company is not correct either. Tesla today is a completely different company than it was when it was first founded. It's a true car manufacturer right now, rather than a few guys tinkering with electric components back in the day. Tesla would have never made it without Musk, would certainly never have gotten to the point of manufacturing their own cars without him. That's a fact.
juggle yeah we will never know for sure but what's more feasible: a car company without the funding or a car company without the car? The funding could have came from someone else or later but I highly doubt musk would be seen as tony Stark without electric car revolution on his back, lets remember that he's a programmer and there's no way he could right from scratch create an electric car
Felipe Montoya well he made a rocket company from scratch soo...
Exactly. If he was able to found SpaceX before funding Tesla, he would have been able to start an EV company from scratch. These two guys are lucky that Elon gave them money and, eventually, brought Tesla where it's now. They probably would have been a complete failure without him.
Felipe, actually he has a degree in applied physics, programming was his side hobby.
FingerDawg However if you don't keep it alive, someone else will take it or let it die.
That is the reason i do not support elon musk.what goes around comes around at all times.
This fellow is an amazing narrater. David attenborough sounding. Well done Sir