That is most likely not a trackpad on the Legion Go S, it is more likely it is an inverted optical sensor (essentially from a mouse) just like on the GPD WIN 4
I have a steamdeck and a legion go. I love them both, however. This looks like it addresses one of my issues with the Go and creates another. The original go had average ergonomics, I was able to get these comfort grips from a 3D print shop on Etsy and that really REALLY helped. The 2 looks better, but now it is functionally missing the trackpad. While I don't use the FPS mode a lot, I do dock my Go and I use the controllers a lot and that trackpad is KEY. Also the 2 top facing USB C ports. The best part of the Go 1's ports is they are on the top and bottom and un-obstructed. I can charge my Go and also have my headset dongle in at the same time. With them this close together I can't do that. I know that is more on the headset manufacturer, but still. On the plus side the front facing speakers look larger and will likely get better sound. Overall I think the Go 2 while it looks nice is removing the some of the small but very important features that make me turn it over my steamdeck lately. Honestly any handheld without at least 1 Steamdeck sized trackpad is a no go for me. I might just wait till Valve announces the Steam Deck 2 at this point. Valve please give me a 2nd USB port PLZ!!!
things i look for in my next handheld :- 1- oled screen 2- light weight 3- great software support 4- affordable price 5- good cpu and gpu that can run blackmyth woukoung at least on midium
Legion Go needs to give more support for the products. The big screen is wonderful. Forcing users who side load drivers because they refuse to simply place it in Legion Space like Asus does with Armoury crate sucks for those users who are new to PC No VRR and battery also gets killed. I made it a Bazzite only machine like you did with your Ally nerd nest. 100 percent worth it I dual boot my Ally x. I hope this device does well. Without support, it will be left behind compared to its competition Love the podcast and channel!! Keep up the good workb
It reminds me a lot of the laser trackpad that I had on this one little Lenovo laptop handheld thing that my uncle got from his work forever ago. It works by just being static and detecting your motion across it. It's movement surface multiplied by this area of your thumb is its entire range. It adds up to be a lot more than you would think and could probably work pretty well as long as it has surface area. It's reading so it's pretty good. It just depends on the acceleration models and how they are applied. Overall, it's probably not as good as a full size trackpad. But it's much better than not having anything I'd say
I think that the trackpad might be more like a "nipple" similar to what the lenovo thinkpads have. Or it could be a finger print sensor for windows hello, which is something the legion v1 doesn't have.
such a "trackpad" (although it is not exactly it) is installed on the gpd win 4, and it is quite convenient to use when you need a mouse pointer. But it is not for gaming, it is only for clicking something sometimes
One of my favorite indie games of all time that could use some love right now in difficult times is Palworld. Legal issues aside, the game is really fun and the producers put alot of heart and soul into their game.
That screen is still a big deal on the Legion Go, especially next to the huge bezel tiny screen on my Ally X. 16:10 is so much better on these handhelds as narrower top and bottom bezels alone make the screen seem bigger whereas when they are thick, it makes the screen look to small. I know the VRR screen is frequently used as a plus, but I don't think even that can save it from being the worst due to the size of the 3 main handhelds now, as in my opinion it goes Legion Go, Steam Deck OLED, then Ally /X. So if this handheld can keep that screen ratio the same, then that could be a big deal if they show it next to the Asus handhelds.
One minor complaint with this why didn't Lenovo upgrade the RAM to 24GB with this new update to the Legion GO it would have been a huge help with modern games just like what ASUS did with the Ally X.
Hey Bill, Can you please always display the game's name on the left side while showing the gameplay? It will be much easier for us to find the name as soon as we decide to try it.
7:41 "Rumored to be the next gen" and "Rembrandt" are contradictory. Rembrandt was the code name for Ryzen mobile 6000 series, and Rembrandt Refresh is the 7030 series introduced in 2023, still with Zen3+ cpu cores and RDNA2 graphics. If true, that would make the chip cheaper, but certainly not next gen.
PCMR people who have complained (accurately) about Intel Core Ultra processors not being more performant than previous generation chips have completely missed the point. Intel is wanting to generate a whole new landscape of portable PC gaming devices. Let’s hope we can all soon abandon these towers and hyper expensive graphics cards for a portable gaming system with a dock for when we want to edit down and use TVs or monitors to game.
I use my track pads on the steam deck to navigate, and that's about it. I think they're overrated. Then again, I havent gone out of my way to use them. I'd like to know what other people think.
I've really grown to love your videos recently. Very well produced and the topics are always interesting to me. Also, has anyone ever told you you look like Tom Segura?
Its too soon. Competition is good but if you oversaturated the market, the Market will collapse. As much as I want a Windows Portable device, I'm not buying these devices unless I know the company won't release another device in at least 4 years. I refuse to buy any device if I know it's going to be outdated the following year.
why does everyone dump on windows as a bad frontend for these handhelds? its the same as literally ANY other computer. and no one complains about their gaming desktop PC's i know its not an issue for me with my ROG ally.
interesting. I guessed trackpad, but that makes sense as well. Though I'd put a fingerprint sensor on a power button, which typically doesn't go on the front of the device.
That was my initial response as well. I've heard others describe it as a Lenovo style nub. But to me it kind of just looks like one of those windows hello fingerprint sensors.
I'd really like that Claw 8. I love the 16:10 aspect ratio and the 120Hz VRR screen at 1200p is really nice. Its just the prospect of having to fight Intel ARC drivers, especially on older DX9 games, thats giving me pause for thought, also the possibilities of weird compatability problems with Emulators and shader effects.
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it would be much more convenient if the names of the games were always in the corner of the screen while they are shown
I second this. Get on it, Bill. 😊
That plus a list of games shown in the description with store links, maybe.
@@superhs good idea
That is most likely not a trackpad on the Legion Go S, it is more likely it is an inverted optical sensor (essentially from a mouse) just like on the GPD WIN 4
I prefer this on my GPD Win 4 to the Legion Go’s trackpad
Yes, they're essentially an optical version of a "nub" or pointing stick device. That's what it looked like to me as well.
I have a steamdeck and a legion go.
I love them both, however. This looks like it addresses one of my issues with the Go and creates another. The original go had average ergonomics, I was able to get these comfort grips from a 3D print shop on Etsy and that really REALLY helped. The 2 looks better, but now it is functionally missing the trackpad. While I don't use the FPS mode a lot, I do dock my Go and I use the controllers a lot and that trackpad is KEY. Also the 2 top facing USB C ports. The best part of the Go 1's ports is they are on the top and bottom and un-obstructed. I can charge my Go and also have my headset dongle in at the same time. With them this close together I can't do that. I know that is more on the headset manufacturer, but still. On the plus side the front facing speakers look larger and will likely get better sound. Overall I think the Go 2 while it looks nice is removing the some of the small but very important features that make me turn it over my steamdeck lately.
Honestly any handheld without at least 1 Steamdeck sized trackpad is a no go for me.
I might just wait till Valve announces the Steam Deck 2 at this point. Valve please give me a 2nd USB port PLZ!!!
Don't drop your legion, go mine broke in one drop. Just the left controller thing.
After Lenovo stopped "supporting" the Legion Go, what gives us reason to buy another version of their handheld PC?
I have a track pad similar to that, on my gpd win4. It’s fine, for navigating windows, but it doesn’t do much for gaming
things i look for in my next handheld :-
1- oled screen
2- light weight
3- great software support
4- affordable price
5- good cpu and gpu that can run blackmyth woukoung at least on midium
I wonder if they're going for an IBM type nub rather than a trackpad
Legion Go needs to give more support for the products. The big screen is wonderful. Forcing users who side load drivers because they refuse to simply place it in Legion Space like Asus does with Armoury crate sucks for those users who are new to PC
No VRR and battery also gets killed. I made it a Bazzite only machine like you did with your Ally nerd nest. 100 percent worth it
I dual boot my Ally x. I hope this device does well. Without support, it will be left behind compared to its competition
Love the podcast and channel!! Keep up the good workb
What if the little trackpad is actually a rubber nib like the thinkpad.
That would be peak lenovo lmfao
One of my favorite indie games is Little Goody Two Shoes. The writing and the art is top notch, and I've never played a game quite like this one ❤❤❤
I hope the new devices gets the 'powered-by-steam' sticker and don't come with windows.
It reminds me a lot of the laser trackpad that I had on this one little Lenovo laptop handheld thing that my uncle got from his work forever ago. It works by just being static and detecting your motion across it. It's movement surface multiplied by this area of your thumb is its entire range. It adds up to be a lot more than you would think and could probably work pretty well as long as it has surface area. It's reading so it's pretty good. It just depends on the acceleration models and how they are applied. Overall, it's probably not as good as a full size trackpad. But it's much better than not having anything I'd say
It certainly wasn't meant for gaming, but I did have fun playing Doom on it when I was a kid
I love increasing my zip tanks. I don't know what I would do without super high quality flip flams and zippities.
I think that the trackpad might be more like a "nipple" similar to what the lenovo thinkpads have.
Or it could be a finger print sensor for windows hello, which is something the legion v1 doesn't have.
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I don't know how to respond to this.
Exactly what a bot *would* say!!
*slow clap
What's the game at 10:24?
It looks like BlazeBlue Entropy Effect.
such a "trackpad" (although it is not exactly it) is installed on the gpd win 4, and it is quite convenient to use when you need a mouse pointer. But it is not for gaming, it is only for clicking something sometimes
New handhelds look pretty good tbh. Out of the 2 I’d probably try the new claw.
Hi, what is games (Racing Games) you play at the beginning of Videos?
If Valve can improve input and diagonal accuracy on their D-pad and move to 80w battery, they would be king of all gaming 🔥💪🏼
One of my favorite indie games of all time that could use some love right now in difficult times is Palworld. Legal issues aside, the game is really fun and the producers put alot of heart and soul into their game.
Certainly could be a tiny trackpad, but looks like a thumbprint/fingerprint sensor to me.
That screen is still a big deal on the Legion Go, especially next to the huge bezel tiny screen on my Ally X. 16:10 is so much better on these handhelds as narrower top and bottom bezels alone make the screen seem bigger whereas when they are thick, it makes the screen look to small. I know the VRR screen is frequently used as a plus, but I don't think even that can save it from being the worst due to the size of the 3 main handhelds now, as in my opinion it goes Legion Go, Steam Deck OLED, then Ally /X. So if this handheld can keep that screen ratio the same, then that could be a big deal if they show it next to the Asus handhelds.
that kind of trackpad is nice for navigating through windows but I dont think it is even meant for playing like on the steam deck
One minor complaint with this why didn't Lenovo upgrade the RAM to 24GB with this new update to the Legion GO it would have been a huge help with modern games just like what ASUS did with the Ally X.
Would it be possible to actually show the indie games' names for the whole time they're shown? That one second blip doesn't do it for me. Thanks ❤
I mean that trackpad is large for a Blackberry trackpad so it'll probably work
The trackpad looks like the one on the old school blackberry phones
Seems like Lenovo is borrowing some of the tech from its ThinkPad line of computers for the next Legion Go handhelds, and that's dope!
Noita is criminally underplayed on steam charts. :)
Thanks for the chapter mark 😊
Love the skillshare ad. Well done my friend
I grabbed the Legion Go to complement my Steam Deck OLED. Love the big screen.
Hey Bill,
Can you please always display the game's name on the left side while showing the gameplay? It will be much easier for us to find the name as soon as we decide to try it.
7:41 "Rumored to be the next gen" and "Rembrandt" are contradictory.
Rembrandt was the code name for Ryzen mobile 6000 series, and Rembrandt Refresh is the 7030 series introduced in 2023, still with Zen3+ cpu cores and RDNA2 graphics. If true, that would make the chip cheaper, but certainly not next gen.
PCMR people who have complained (accurately) about Intel Core Ultra processors not being more performant than previous generation chips have completely missed the point. Intel is wanting to generate a whole new landscape of portable PC gaming devices. Let’s hope we can all soon abandon these towers and hyper expensive graphics cards for a portable gaming system with a dock for when we want to edit down and use TVs or monitors to game.
I, for one, would love more smaller footprint x86 options 🍻🔥🤘🏼
BlackBerry had small trackpad. Hehe. It worked well on that phone
Was this comment made in 2009? LOL
@Echelon730 😂 I just remembered how good it was
@@orian-x it was, and thanks for the walk down memory lane.
I use my track pads on the steam deck to navigate, and that's about it. I think they're overrated. Then again, I havent gone out of my way to use them. I'd like to know what other people think.
I liked the setup to your Skillshare spot. Someday you'll give Bob a run for his money.
Never, Bob is way too good at this.
Can you share again what software you use for recording your podcast please.
Riverside
@NerdNest thank you so much, you're awesome man.
I've really grown to love your videos recently. Very well produced and the topics are always interesting to me. Also, has anyone ever told you you look like Tom Segura?
Tom Segura looks like me.
What game is that at 9:45?
Are you saving Fremont rumors and speculation for the podcast? I need it!
Not saving, but we'll absolutely talk about it on the podcast, I'll probably make a full video about it as well
Looks more like a fingerprint scanner to me. Like on the Framework laptops
Track points are fine GPD has had them for years, also you know...... Blackberry
Its too soon. Competition is good but if you oversaturated the market, the Market will collapse.
As much as I want a Windows Portable device, I'm not buying these devices unless I know the company won't release another device in at least 4 years. I refuse to buy any device if I know it's going to be outdated the following year.
Not seeing the link for it on sale…
amzn.to/49x8ebq sorry!
Until Then is a great story-focused indie game✌🏼
why does everyone dump on windows as a bad frontend for these handhelds? its the same as literally ANY other computer.
and no one complains about their gaming desktop PC's
i know its not an issue for me with my ROG ally.
I don't see much competition just a bunch a overpriced handheld only Valve understood the assignment . Yes i know they make money on sells but still.
is that a trackpad or a fingerprint sensor?
interesting. I guessed trackpad, but that makes sense as well. Though I'd put a fingerprint sensor on a power button, which typically doesn't go on the front of the device.
That was my initial response as well. I've heard others describe it as a Lenovo style nub. But to me it kind of just looks like one of those windows hello fingerprint sensors.
What's the game on the lower right of the thumbnail?
Looks like avowed by obsidian.
I'd really like that Claw 8. I love the 16:10 aspect ratio and the 120Hz VRR screen at 1200p is really nice.
Its just the prospect of having to fight Intel ARC drivers, especially on older DX9 games, thats giving me pause for thought, also the possibilities of weird compatability problems with Emulators and shader effects.
Blackberry track pad