I like the line "My Job is done! Go on to your next challenge!" poor guy can't even do something against lv5 and is probably pretending it was a legendary team to keep his sanity
20:10 so apparently in gen 1, if you take confusion damage while using a Substitute, it applies the damage to your _opponent's_ Substitute instead. But if you opponent doesn't have a Substitute, then neither Pokemon takes damage.
@@Pandacalifornia I just read it on the Bulbapedia page for Substitute. Direct quote: "Due to a glitch, if a Pokémon behind a substitute takes self-inflicted confusion damage, the damage is applied to the opponent's substitute instead. If the opponent does not have a substitute, no Pokémon or substitute takes damage." (from the Gen 1 section)
@@MishKoz I meant how is something like that discovered. I guess it’s not as crazy as some other stuff though now that I think about it. But does seem incredibly situational.
Lance after watching Bruno's battle: "Bruno, you're the worst Elite Four member. You got beat by a team of level 5s on the first try! Let me show you how it's done." Bruno after watching Lance's battle: "At least I can blame my 'good' AI, what's your excuse?"
awesome. I respect your mission to complete every pokémon in the “how fast can you beat red/blue” but I’d like to see you branch out more with videos like this. your videos with fresh ideas are so enjoyable to watch
Agreed. I still want the every Pokémon in every game challenge, but it’s fresh when he mixes it up. Especially since I’m sure it’s draining on him doing the same thing over and over.
One idea that I had for a challenge is trying to beat the Elite Four with non legendary Pokémon caught wild in Cerulean Cave without changing their movesets or levelling them up
16:30 I'm pretty sure Lapras didn't outspeed, but outprioritized. My guess is that Hitmonchan decided to use counter since fighting > ice, which would have a 50/50 to happen between that and thunderpunch.
Bruno doesn't have good AI, meaning he'll always choose moves at random if I understood gen 1 AI correctly. But you're right, Hitmonchan for sure using Counter.
@@Blckviper they were working under the assumption that bruno has "good AI", which would limit his choices between his two super effective moves being counter and thunder punch. but you're right, the odds are actually 1/4
It takes a certain kind of crazy to even *think* about doing this, let alone planning it out theoretically, let alone actually do it. Absolutely amazing, we love it
@@leedsunited8787 dude, Jrose has literally said in previous videos he doesn't want people competing him with Mahdrybread. They're both amazing content creators, we don't need to put one above the other
@@leedsunited8787 except JRose has *explicitly* asked people to not comment negativity about other youtubers on his videos, so feel free to have the opinion if you want, just don't comment it here
Can we just appreciate Jrose's narration skills? A lot of energy is carried into it and it often feels like a live reaction, which makes the videos super fun and energetic.
I actually prefer when he isn't all excited and freaking out but maybe I would be having a similar reaction after resetting so many times and needing really good luck to come my way
@@pokemonduck Yeah. I tried watching one of his streams months ago and I couldn't deal with it. I realized I liked his straight commentary and not his emotional hurdles + excitement. Even when it was live and not him recreating his reaction after the fact, it still didn't resonate with me.
I've heard Jrose drinks heavily after every recording in order to forget everything that happened during the run. That way his recorded reactions are like he's seeing the game for the first time. Such dedication to the craft.
Jrose always come out with new ideas in Red and Blue and it’s so interesting. Minimum battle, solo runs, how fast series and now we have a new content of the game again
It would have been extra funny if when he said, "That's it: we win! Our substitute keeps us alive for 2 turns, and I only need to hit once with Dragon Rage!", the 1/256 Accuracy oversight occurred.
In other words, he won the challenge just because opponent’s Pokémon both used unoffensive moves and couldn’t attack the same turn they wake up. All things which are not possible anymore in next generations
@@matthewmurdock7329other gens have other ways in which you could make something like this work. From gen 5 onwards, for example, your can abuse stuff like shell bell endeavour aron alongside a sandstorm setter and beat any non-ghost mon that isn't sand immune with it
I have to give JRose a lot of credit for coming up with this idea and actually attempting it not to mention creating a really unique team. Congratulations pretty sad that a level 5 team with adjusted moves beat the Gen 1 Elite 4 and champion
@@christopherballero866 That's ignoring all the context and luck involved tho. People like Smallant, Pointcrow, PChal etc. have beaten entire games like B/W or D/P/P with lvl 1 Pokemon.
Just saying, he didn't come up with the idea. He just tried it in a game that not a lot of other people would think about when doing this type of challenge. Plenty of other people have done similar challenges. In fact, I believe that Pointcrow fairly recently did it during a blind black and white playthrough. Although it could have been Smallant as I tend to misremember who did which challenges.
I've seen these in later games but they're always dependent on endeavor, destiny bond, and held items, etc. This was a unique version of those challenges and incredibly well planned and executed. Super entertaining
You have completely changed my mind about the utility of Dragon Rage. My favorite thing about Red and Blue is how you can turn what seem to be useless moves into run-changing keys to victory. Great video!
The ending to this video was incredible. How fitting that it was your Level 5 Starter taking down his fully evolved Level 65 Starter despite the crazy level difference and type disadvantage.
This challenge was bonkers. I didn't even know how much I needed this in my life. At some point, I'd love to see a "leave no ass unkicked" challenge: how quickly could you defeat every single trainer in the game in gen 1?
Lorelei: "Hey uh, guys? There's some kid here with a bunch of really weak pokemon, can someone tell him to go away?" Bruno: "Me handle this." *10 minutes later* Bruno, spinning off into orbit: "Me blasting off again."
Anyone else still do The Count's voice in your head when watching Jrose? lol One Dragon Rage ha ha ha Two Dragon Rage ha ha ha Three Dragon Rage ha ha ha 😂
This was fantastic! Thank you for taking the time to do something different. I can't imagine how many permutations you went through to figure this out but having the level-5 starting Charmander as the only Pokemon left up at the end for the rival fight was breathtakingly poetic. :D
Regarding Leech Seed on Level 5: Unevolved Pokémon can have Moves they learn through Level-up already when hatching from an Egg. For that to work, both Parents need to know the move you want.
@@MrEnte3000 No that's not true. If you've played Gen 2 it's actually not the case. t's even stated in pokemon stadium 2. Any moves the baby is capable of learning that it can learn come from the male. According to bulbapedia what you're saying is correct. But back when i had gen 2 it seemed to come from the male and pokemon stadium 2 didn't state about both parents needing to know a level up move to pass it on
@@thatyellowfellow Yes, it IS true. You are conflating Level-up moves and Egg moves, moves that a Pokémon ONLY learns through breeding and NOT via Level-up.
@@MrEnte3000 Well you don't know but when i had a lapras i bred the levelled up male with a newly caught female and the baby knew hydro pump. As you can catch the lapras every friday in the cave. the female was level 15 so no, i'm not
Now this one is just too ridiculous to even imagine until having watched the video and seeing it done. I thought all the solo runs and such were impressive enough already but I still didn't expect to see the title of this video in my subscriptions feed regardless of all the runs I've watched you complete so far. Can't help but feel compelled to congratulate you for achieving something as absurd as this one was.
I was screaming "no way" when I realised Charmander was gonna make it through Blastoise, this was so good, between you and Scott's Thoughts there's some really cool gen 1 content out there now
Good for exploiting the "Good" AI there. And that's also the beauty with Dragon Rage. 40HP fixed damage can still be very useful in situations where you have nothing else powerful enough to knock out Pokemon. And in a Level 5 Challenge this is pretty much needed as that is literally the most powerful attack you can ever breed to give for level 5 pokemon!
I can't believe the Bruno fight. I'm starting to feel sorry for that guy. On the other hand, I've seen over 50 of RBY runs and I just learned about the confusion glitch. This game could not be more broken (and i love it for that).
Damn, that was a good run. I was expecting a full run of the game (I didn’t read the title all the way) but even the elite 4 was just awesome to see taken down so handily
It never ceases to amaze me with how crazy your challenges are, but you make them happen with so much thought put into it. Plus, the way you talk makes this even more interesting. Love your content Jrose!
If you're behind a Substitute and take confusion damage, it's applied to the opponent's Substitute. I forgot the exact reasoning, but I remember finding this out on Pokemon Showdown. If there's no Substitute to apply damage to, it just...doesn't happen. So your Substitute will never break as a result of confusion damage.
i think leech seed might have been more optimal for the elite four here on tangela because it isn’t a persistent status effect; it likely would have saved some ranges for dragon rage
Whoa...I tried this about a year ago with a Lv 5 Mewtwo that COULD level up and barely won. Only Jrose would attempt (and succeed at) something this whacky.
That glitch is pretty hilarious from a programming perspective! Must have been something like 'Okay, to code this substitute thing we just have to make its number count down instead of whichever Pokémon is being attacked. Oh no wait, what about poison or burn damage? Ehh, this is getting too complicated. Oh! We can just code it based on who's *dealing* the damage instead! I mean it's not like there are any moves where the Pokémon hurts itself as long as we account for moves like High Jump Kick and Struggle."
"There isn't a single Pokémon that can learn Leech Seed at level 5." Since you're using Gen 2, you can breed any Pokémon that have Leech Seed as a level up move, and the baby will have the move if both parents have it. Both Bulbasaur and Exeggcute can have it and they both have sleeping moves and Substitute.
I was holding out for Charmander's Swords Dance to come in clutch somehow haha. But this was super awesome, regardless! I feel like playing Gen 1 this way turns it into a really unique and interesting puzzle to try to untangle a solution out of. Awesome job, man.
I read the title and thought you were pulling my leg, and that this was some sort of April Fools joke, but nope… Jrose you are insane, and I can’t believe you actually pulled off something like this. Kudos
I saw someone do a video on winning with a level 5 Mewtwo, so I thought it would be something like that, was pleasantly surprised this involved no Mewtwo and was with no exp gain, so you actually were strictly level 5 only. It's very nice you didn't use Shift mode either. Also you could have gotten Leech Seed by breeding two pokemon that know it in Gen 2, where then the offspring would have had it at level 5. Since you were already taking advantage of Gen 2 tradebacks with stuff like having a level 5 Lapras knowing Sing and Tangela having Confusion at all, this should have been acceptable for the challenge, though it proved to not be necessary.
There is something to be said about how great those old Pokemon games were seeing as how we are still enjoying the games and content on these games today years later. Great vid Jrose.
You continue to impress us with your amazing strategy and commentary. Honestly one of the only people who can make every gen 1 run intriguing to the end
Leech Seed actually would've been available to you. If you breed two Pokémon that both know a move that the offspring would get by leveling up, it'll hatch knowing that move.
Really enjoyed this video. Doing a few other challenge formats to break things up and keep it fresh sounds fun! Thanks as always for the great content.
Whenever I thought about it, I imagined this challenge would be the easiest because of how easy it is to manipualte the E4's ai. However, it kind of surprised me that there is a somewhat difficult aspect to planning out your movesets, since they're so limited in generation 1. Like PointCrow's level 1 team for the Black and White Elite Four, it essentially swept through with ease because of endeavor, sandstorm, and soothe bell.
Saying this before I watch: I'm 100% sure it is. Especially if you allow Time Capsule/breeding stuff. Plus, TMs. "Good" AI & Poison-types, Ghost-types, etc. should make this a cakewalk. Anyway, will probably comment more later! Thanks for uploading!
Found out about your channel and started binging your vids like 3 days ago. Good stuff man. Makes for some pretty interesting chill content to put on while I do some work.
Mad love your way, Jrose. I love all your challenge vids; solo runs are always great, but the other content you release is always amazing too. Definitely one of my favorite channels to relax and unwind with, and I hope you know how much we all appreciate you
When behind a substitute, your confusion damage is inflicted upon the opponent’s substitute. If it doesnt have one, nothing actually happens. Maybe after the damage is inflicted on the opponents sub, it then checks the health of the sub, which is obviously 0 already, and then perceives that the sub mustve broken, hence the text mentioning it
Amazing :D You can actually get leech seed at lvl 5, but I'm not sure what it would do to the AI as you'd need to use Exeggcute instead of Tangela. With some careful breeding you can hatch Exeggcute with Leech Seed, Sleep Powder, Toxic and confusion :D
Likewise, he could get Bulbasaur with Leech Seed, Toxic, and Sleep Powder, and teach it Substitute, and Poison is always good typing for screwing with the smart AI.
Leech seed actually *was* available to you at level 5 since you were breeding your Pokémon in gen 2. Not sure if it’s still a thing in later gens, but in gen 2 at least, if both parents know a move that the baby can learn as a level up move, the baby will hatch knowing that move. I had a level 5 cyndiquill with flamethrower using this method back in the day. Using this method, you could have had a bulbasaur with sleep powder and leech seed. You could also have had exeggcute, but bulbasaur’s poison typing is more useful with good ai.
I love your videos so much. I like your commentary, and how level your voice is. The videos are exciting but never loud. So they're actually very calming to watch! I really enjoy that you mention the technical aspects of certain things, how this works, why you chose this strategy, etc. I enjoy watching them but because they're not loud I'll also sometimes just put them on for nice, non distracting background noise. Always very enjoyable!
When I saw this video initially in my sub box I was like "...ehhhhh..." but this was exciting, thrilling, and more than anything else, FUN. Thank you for the great content :)
JRose, I'm having an *AWFUL* day. Our power got turned off out of the blue and I nearly had to drive over to work (which I HATE) instead of working from home. Just as we got the power on, I see your video in my subs box. Thanks for being an awesome person and uploading a video and the most perfect time to cheer up my day.
This run was a fun one. I didn't think it was even possible. It's kinda cool that this was a run that didn't need any badge boosting. ...That said, how fast can you beat the game using Missingno.?
Since I’ve been watching your channel I have learned so much about Gen 1 POKéMON. I can’t thank you enough for what you do and how much you have inspired me to learn more about the game series I grew up with. Your passion is contagious. Keep being you mate thanks again!
5:43 You double-counted the turn the pokémon wakes up here. The actual amount of turns a pokémon is asleep is 0-6 turns (it can wake up on the turn it falls asleep) but after factoring in the turn where the pokémon wakes up, it becomes 1-7.
You are forgetting that since all the lvl 5 pokemon are slower, the enemy pokemon can never wake up on the turn it was put to sleep. So it would be the turn put to sleep (1), and the next turn waking up (2).
thanks to you. i started manipulating the AI in red/blue more and more than i have in the past. i did this with my Jessie and James anime team challenge and even beat mewtwo in pokemon blue because of the GOOD AI that really wasn't good AI because they use stuff like agility. also i never miss a video of yours. some ive watch again to get ideals to see if i could ever out speed your times which is hard to top so. also scott's thoughts doing Pokemon Yellow makes two good sources for gen 1along with Mah-Dry-Bread. the 3 of you are the ultimate Pokemon Masters
Regarding the Leech Seed tidbit at the end, couldn't you have bred an Exeggcute with Leech Seed + Sleep Powder + Toxic + Substitute? Or was that not a legal combination?
Yes it gotta be possible. There are some weird mechanics regarding inherited moves I just looked up and didn't know for sure until rn (just knew there was some mechanics since I bred for Little Cup in Stadium 2 back in time). Apparently it depends on the evo-line how many moves the baby will have (2 for most species), PLUS certain regular moves from the father under certain conditions. It will always inherit egg moves, the father's gen2-TM-moves if learnable and regular level up moves IF mom+dad both have it. So yes according to the guide I found lvl 5 leech seed Exeggcute, Bulbasaur and others should be possible. Don't know how it's nowadays though, didn't breed much since then tbh
@@Crusina As cmck said, Jrose11 was using bred Pokémon from Gold/Silver/Crystal through tradeback. It is stated on the video. It wouldn't have made sense that Jrose had Lv5 Tangela with Sleep Powder or Dratini with Supersonic otherwise
Yea he said it would not be availible. Not 100% sure but isn't it possible to have a level 7 male bulbasaur with leech seed and a female bulbasaur, so the egg bulbasaur already starts with leech seed?
You know I’ve been thinking about how the uploads have slowed down lately, but if it’s for content like this I am more than willing to wait! Keep crushing it jrose!
This was great. Big respect for this video. The one questuon I have is, did you actually breed all the pokemon and just got the tms via missingno or did you actually just create the team? This would be interesting to me because you actually talked about the option you had for making this team legitimately and I think it would not be out of reach for you to just do that
Both, I could not find a way to get the saves to interact (I used an everdrive). I think I've figured out the issue so I might be able to do this in the future with the actual Pokemon I bred.
17:28 just because I'm curious, if he were to use rage on one of your other mons, and after rage hits you switch to Gastly, will the Onix still be stuck on rage?
@@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU that sounds like a strategy to me. Imagine being locked forever to a move that cannot hit (while you actually have moves that can hit)
I was a league registered competitive breeder for gen 6 (I made legit perfect stat babies with special egg move sets for competitive players) and I'm pretty sure in gen 2 a baby can inherit a move it would learn by level up if both parents know it. I did a lot of breeding in gen 2 too, for fun, but it has been a long time... Does Paras learn leech seed? A baby with leech seed and spore would be fantastic, yeah? Hmm. Looking forward to seeing a full game level 5 clear attempt!!!
Good to have another video from you Jrose!! I remember first stumbling onto your channel and was so happy to find someone that appreciates the Pokemon game as much as I do. Good to have you back man!!
This was an insane run, I never would have thought this was possible. However, I think if you had traded Tangela for a 2nd Ghastly, it would have been easier for you. Great job regardless!
That line Bruno says when you defeat him, "Why? How could I lose?" just hits a lot different with this challenge. lol
Dude was legitimately going through a existential crisis this time.
That defeat can destroy the soul
I don't think he'll recover from this one
I was waiting for a gen one miss against the Blastoise st the end 😂
I like the line "My Job is done! Go on to your next challenge!" poor guy can't even do something against lv5 and is probably pretending it was a legendary team to keep his sanity
20:10 so apparently in gen 1, if you take confusion damage while using a Substitute, it applies the damage to your _opponent's_ Substitute instead. But if you opponent doesn't have a Substitute, then neither Pokemon takes damage.
That glitch was new to me. It's crazy Gen 1 is so broken I still sometimes learn something new.
That just makes me *Confused*
Who figured that out?
@@Pandacalifornia I just read it on the Bulbapedia page for Substitute. Direct quote:
"Due to a glitch, if a Pokémon behind a substitute takes self-inflicted confusion damage, the damage is applied to the opponent's substitute instead. If the opponent does not have a substitute, no Pokémon or substitute takes damage." (from the Gen 1 section)
@@MishKoz I meant how is something like that discovered. I guess it’s not as crazy as some other stuff though now that I think about it. But does seem incredibly situational.
Bruno: "Finally, a Jrose challenge that I can easily beat him at."
Jrose: "Well, yes, but actually no."
Lance after watching Bruno's battle: "Bruno, you're the worst Elite Four member. You got beat by a team of level 5s on the first try! Let me show you how it's done."
Bruno after watching Lance's battle: "At least I can blame my 'good' AI, what's your excuse?"
@@DrPotatoSkins elite four? more like wimp four lol
@@DrPotatoSkins Someone forgot that the reason you can beat Lance is specifically *because* of his 'good' AI.
I think at this point, we just don't talk about Bruno. Yes, I went there.
is this a history matters reference?
Bruno: "I have weight trained with my Pokémon"
JRose: "Look at my Lvl 5 gas cloud"
Bruno: "Am I a joke to you?"
Everyone: yes
awesome. I respect your mission to complete every pokémon in the “how fast can you beat red/blue” but I’d like to see you branch out more with videos like this. your videos with fresh ideas are so enjoyable to watch
Keep In mind Bruno is so bad we had to have a Gen 1 Bruno challenge
Eh. I still want to see the final chart rookie Pokemon. I especially want to see venonat.
Agreed. I still want the every Pokémon in every game challenge, but it’s fresh when he mixes it up. Especially since I’m sure it’s draining on him doing the same thing over and over.
Just watch his videos and wish we could do it as well!!
One idea that I had for a challenge is trying to beat the Elite Four with non legendary Pokémon caught wild in Cerulean Cave without changing their movesets or levelling them up
16:30 I'm pretty sure Lapras didn't outspeed, but outprioritized. My guess is that Hitmonchan decided to use counter since fighting > ice, which would have a 50/50 to happen between that and thunderpunch.
Bruno doesn't have good AI, meaning he'll always choose moves at random if I understood gen 1 AI correctly. But you're right, Hitmonchan for sure using Counter.
That...That means that wasn't a 50/50 chance. It was a 1/4. He's hit better luck before, but still.
@@Blckviper they were working under the assumption that bruno has "good AI", which would limit his choices between his two super effective moves being counter and thunder punch. but you're right, the odds are actually 1/4
@@danielIoking a little late, but why doesn't Bruno have good AI. I thought he would since Counter or ThunderPunch would be super effective vs Lapras?
100% the lapras did not outspeed. The programming wouldnt allow for it so unless it glitched, or was cheated, the hitmonchan used counter.
It takes a certain kind of crazy to even *think* about doing this, let alone planning it out theoretically, let alone actually do it. Absolutely amazing, we love it
This is why Jrose is the best, unlike that loser mahdrybread. This guy is so much more creative.
@@leedsunited8787 dude, Jrose has literally said in previous videos he doesn't want people competing him with Mahdrybread. They're both amazing content creators, we don't need to put one above the other
Yes
@@paulthompson382 they’re really both not and people are allowed to have that opinion
@@leedsunited8787 except JRose has *explicitly* asked people to not comment negativity about other youtubers on his videos, so feel free to have the opinion if you want, just don't comment it here
Can we just appreciate Jrose's narration skills? A lot of energy is carried into it and it often feels like a live reaction, which makes the videos super fun and energetic.
His narration skills are fantastic.
I actually prefer when he isn't all excited and freaking out but maybe I would be having a similar reaction after resetting so many times and needing really good luck to come my way
@@Thoray I preferred it when he was more dry, but clearly this is better engagement of the audience
@@pokemonduck Yeah. I tried watching one of his streams months ago and I couldn't deal with it. I realized I liked his straight commentary and not his emotional hurdles + excitement. Even when it was live and not him recreating his reaction after the fact, it still didn't resonate with me.
I've heard Jrose drinks heavily after every recording in order to forget everything that happened during the run. That way his recorded reactions are like he's seeing the game for the first time.
Such dedication to the craft.
Jrose always come out with new ideas in Red and Blue and it’s so interesting.
Minimum battle, solo runs, how fast series and now we have a new content of the game again
@Reno Thomas Not only that, he literally opens this video with a list of TH-camrs who have done the same challenge already lol
He has the ideas, he executes the ideas and gives a ton of entertainment. Dosen't matter that someone else has done it, he's extremely entertaining
16:30 Pretty sure he used counter which always goes second. There's no way a lvl 5 lapras outspeeds a lvl 55 hitmonchan, even with the speed cut in 4
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i was thinking the exact same xD
my exact thoughts
Doesn't paralyzis sets speed to 0 in gen1?
Look at the suffering he had to cope with just to entertain us. We love you Jrose
It would have been extra funny if when he said, "That's it: we win! Our substitute keeps us alive for 2 turns, and I only need to hit once with Dragon Rage!", the 1/256 Accuracy oversight occurred.
Mmhm, so funny, yeah
In other words, he won the challenge just because opponent’s Pokémon both used unoffensive moves and couldn’t attack the same turn they wake up.
All things which are not possible anymore in next generations
@@matthewmurdock7329other gens have other ways in which you could make something like this work. From gen 5 onwards, for example, your can abuse stuff like shell bell endeavour aron alongside a sandstorm setter and beat any non-ghost mon that isn't sand immune with it
I have to give JRose a lot of credit for coming up with this idea and actually attempting it not to mention creating a really unique team. Congratulations pretty sad that a level 5 team with adjusted moves beat the Gen 1 Elite 4 and champion
Why sad, brah?? Many would say it’s the most amazing thing about PKMN
@@DIOS-REY sad in terms of the Elite 4 supposedly being elite yet they lose to level 5 Pokemon
@@christopherballero866 That's ignoring all the context and luck involved tho. People like Smallant, Pointcrow, PChal etc. have beaten entire games like B/W or D/P/P with lvl 1 Pokemon.
Just saying, he didn't come up with the idea. He just tried it in a game that not a lot of other people would think about when doing this type of challenge. Plenty of other people have done similar challenges. In fact, I believe that Pointcrow fairly recently did it during a blind black and white playthrough. Although it could have been Smallant as I tend to misremember who did which challenges.
@@rendomstranger8698 Crow recently did B2/W2. Smant did B/W like a year or two ago
I've seen these in later games but they're always dependent on endeavor, destiny bond, and held items, etc.
This was a unique version of those challenges and incredibly well planned and executed. Super entertaining
yeah I love how he picked a strat that I haven't really seen used with this kind of challenge.
You could say it was well planned and Exeggcuted. 😅
I don't think there are any uploads I get more excited for than a new Jrose journey.
You have completely changed my mind about the utility of Dragon Rage. My favorite thing about Red and Blue is how you can turn what seem to be useless moves into run-changing keys to victory. Great video!
The fact it actually worked, and with the first movesets you chose is insane. Great vid!
I saw it coming and my jaw STILL dropped. Absolute insanity.
He planned and planned and just kept at it, it'll work eventually
The reason it works is because trainers are dumb in gen 1. That is the only reason it would even work on gen 1.
the sole fact he uploaded this challenge means it worked
He changed ghastly to have rest* But still incredible haha
The ending to this video was incredible. How fitting that it was your Level 5 Starter taking down his fully evolved Level 65 Starter despite the crazy level difference and type disadvantage.
This challenge was bonkers. I didn't even know how much I needed this in my life. At some point, I'd love to see a "leave no ass unkicked" challenge: how quickly could you defeat every single trainer in the game in gen 1?
Full team of 6 lvl 100 at the start. Can he one-shot every trainer pokemon in the game?
@@AbramSF i would bet starmie on his own can do it with good moves
@@kheireddineattala1281 for the most part yeah but I think you would also want a strong body slam user on your team as well.
@@HomeCookinMTG for what? star with surf/psychic/ice beam/tbolt ..... gimme one thing in the game that does not get totally kille
6 lvl 100 mewtwo's
Lorelei: "Hey uh, guys? There's some kid here with a bunch of really weak pokemon, can someone tell him to go away?"
Bruno: "Me handle this."
*10 minutes later*
Bruno, spinning off into orbit: "Me blasting off again."
Hoo Haaaaaaaaah! * ping *
"Me, Bruno, am only pawn, in game of life..."
Anyone else still do The Count's voice in your head when watching Jrose? lol
One Dragon Rage ha ha ha
Two Dragon Rage ha ha ha
Three Dragon Rage ha ha ha 😂
This might be my favorite run yet. Just the sheer ingenuity and knowledge of the game required to pull this off is mind blowing.
This... Should be pretty good.
Why am I not surprised? I had my thoughts that JRose was a masochist, but this. This confirms it.
Ohhhhhh 💓, beat again Red and Blue! Make me waste my time!
This was fantastic! Thank you for taking the time to do something different. I can't imagine how many permutations you went through to figure this out but having the level-5 starting Charmander as the only Pokemon left up at the end for the rival fight was breathtakingly poetic. :D
I don’t know why he didn’t use any Toxic/Leech Seed or Toxic/Wrap strats.
This JRose vid notification did more to wake me up than my coffee today
Regarding Leech Seed on Level 5:
Unevolved Pokémon can have Moves they learn through Level-up already when hatching from an Egg.
For that to work, both Parents need to know the move you want.
It's actually only the male that needs the moves. The male passes on the moves and the female passes on the species the baby will be.
@@thatyellowfellow No, both need to know the Move. I'm talking specifically about Moves the Pokémon would normally only learn through Level-up.
@@MrEnte3000 No that's not true. If you've played Gen 2 it's actually not the case. t's even stated in pokemon stadium 2. Any moves the baby is capable of learning that it can learn come from the male. According to bulbapedia what you're saying is correct. But back when i had gen 2 it seemed to come from the male and pokemon stadium 2 didn't state about both parents needing to know a level up move to pass it on
@@thatyellowfellow Yes, it IS true.
You are conflating Level-up moves and Egg moves, moves that a Pokémon ONLY learns through breeding and NOT via Level-up.
@@MrEnte3000 Well you don't know but when i had a lapras i bred the levelled up male with a newly caught female and the baby knew hydro pump. As you can catch the lapras every friday in the cave. the female was level 15 so no, i'm not
Hype! So much Jrose lately
@HoldMyDragonballz Denis?
Now this one is just too ridiculous to even imagine until having watched the video and seeing it done. I thought all the solo runs and such were impressive enough already but I still didn't expect to see the title of this video in my subscriptions feed regardless of all the runs I've watched you complete so far.
Can't help but feel compelled to congratulate you for achieving something as absurd as this one was.
Ha I like how tickled J rose gets in this one when beating Bruno 😂😂
I was screaming "no way" when I realised Charmander was gonna make it through Blastoise, this was so good, between you and Scott's Thoughts there's some really cool gen 1 content out there now
Good for exploiting the "Good" AI there. And that's also the beauty with Dragon Rage. 40HP fixed damage can still be very useful in situations where you have nothing else powerful enough to knock out Pokemon. And in a Level 5 Challenge this is pretty much needed as that is literally the most powerful attack you can ever breed to give for level 5 pokemon!
Well he didn't really breed dragon rage, he used the TM.
@@Jotari gave em a can of that good old pedigree…dragon rage 😤 🤔
There's no breeding in gen 1 though. You can get it from a TM.
Not to mention his moves some times show 15/10 Dragon Rage
I can't believe the Bruno fight. I'm starting to feel sorry for that guy.
On the other hand, I've seen over 50 of RBY runs and I just learned about the confusion glitch. This game could not be more broken (and i love it for that).
Go in with a lone zapdos and Bruno is OP
Well it was the 1st game ever so while flawed I have way too much nostalgia for it as you do to hate it at all for it
Damn, that was a good run. I was expecting a full run of the game (I didn’t read the title all the way) but even the elite 4 was just awesome to see taken down so handily
It never ceases to amaze me with how crazy your challenges are, but you make them happen with so much thought put into it. Plus, the way you talk makes this even more interesting. Love your content Jrose!
If you're behind a Substitute and take confusion damage, it's applied to the opponent's Substitute. I forgot the exact reasoning, but I remember finding this out on Pokemon Showdown. If there's no Substitute to apply damage to, it just...doesn't happen. So your Substitute will never break as a result of confusion damage.
thats very... confusing
@@zorohibiki Gen 1 as a whole is very confusing. XD
i think leech seed might have been more optimal for the elite four here on tangela because it isn’t a persistent status effect; it likely would have saved some ranges for dragon rage
Tangela doesn't have access to leech seed at level 5
@@RedEyeStorm7 you can breed it to have it
@@Begeru not according to Bulba's chart.
Whoa...I tried this about a year ago with a Lv 5 Mewtwo that COULD level up and barely won.
Only Jrose would attempt (and succeed at) something this whacky.
How did you get a level 5 Mewtwo to begin with?
@@cecillewolters1995 Blatant cheating! And I gave it perfect DVs, although Mewtwo was engineered so of course it would have opop genes.
Jrose has two videos where he starts with lv 5 Mewtwo and beats the whole game, if you're interested.
Love your content btw!
The crossover of the gen 1 poketubers
That glitch is pretty hilarious from a programming perspective! Must have been something like 'Okay, to code this substitute thing we just have to make its number count down instead of whichever Pokémon is being attacked. Oh no wait, what about poison or burn damage? Ehh, this is getting too complicated. Oh! We can just code it based on who's *dealing* the damage instead! I mean it's not like there are any moves where the Pokémon hurts itself as long as we account for moves like High Jump Kick and Struggle."
"There isn't a single Pokémon that can learn Leech Seed at level 5."
Since you're using Gen 2, you can breed any Pokémon that have Leech Seed as a level up move, and the baby will have the move if both parents have it. Both Bulbasaur and Exeggcute can have it and they both have sleeping moves and Substitute.
Yeah, I was just about to say that.
Basically bulbasaur with sleep powder, leech seed, substitute and... toxic?
@@naphackDT yeah you could solo the E4 with just that set alone
I was holding out for Charmander's Swords Dance to come in clutch somehow haha. But this was super awesome, regardless! I feel like playing Gen 1 this way turns it into a really unique and interesting puzzle to try to untangle a solution out of. Awesome job, man.
This reminds me of a Pokémon Stadium 2 challenge of beating the rival with only level 5’s. You’re a legend for putting this together
The mental image of a big Alakazam being paralized by a corgi sized Arcanine body slamming it was reason enough to watch this video xD
Great video! Fissure will always have 30% acc in Gen 1, and only works as long as the user is faster than the target.
This is great! love how happy you were at beating bruno so easily. Good enthusiasm
I read the title and thought you were pulling my leg, and that this was some sort of April Fools joke, but nope… Jrose you are insane, and I can’t believe you actually pulled off something like this. Kudos
april fools 11 days late
I saw someone do a video on winning with a level 5 Mewtwo, so I thought it would be something like that, was pleasantly surprised this involved no Mewtwo and was with no exp gain, so you actually were strictly level 5 only. It's very nice you didn't use Shift mode either.
Also you could have gotten Leech Seed by breeding two pokemon that know it in Gen 2, where then the offspring would have had it at level 5. Since you were already taking advantage of Gen 2 tradebacks with stuff like having a level 5 Lapras knowing Sing and Tangela having Confusion at all, this should have been acceptable for the challenge, though it proved to not be necessary.
There is something to be said about how great those old Pokemon games were seeing as how we are still enjoying the games and content on these games today years later.
Great vid Jrose.
Watched probably every video on the channel and think this is my favourite one yet. Well done for continuing to outdo yourself after so many!
Just noticed the Ponyta video was up and got so excited. Imagine my surprise when there was not one, but TWO, new JRose videos to watch : - )
One
TWO!
TWO NEW JROSE VIDEOS
Ah Ah Ah
One of these times when you do these insane challenges, you have to hit us with the: "I refuse to explain why I'm saving in this run."
Finishing the challenge with charmander beating rival’s blastoise ….
That was really special jrose
7:40
All right everyone, add this to our "just when we thought we knew everything about Gen 1 battle quirks" bingo card.
This was such a cool idea for a run! It really goes to show how team building and strategy matters more than just higher numbers
Yes, yes!! This is my favorite run, and he did it well with only 5 Pokémon, not even the full 6
What a great run! It’s cool seeing Jrose use mods! I’d love to see more challenges like this, especially after finishing all the solo runs!
You continue to impress us with your amazing strategy and commentary. Honestly one of the only people who can make every gen 1 run intriguing to the end
Leech Seed actually would've been available to you. If you breed two Pokémon that both know a move that the offspring would get by leveling up, it'll hatch knowing that move.
There's no breeding in gen 1
@@SirHattington But there is in Gen 2, which can trade with Gen 1.
Fascinating.
@@SirHattington
Did you skip the beginning of the video where he talked about getting five of those Pokémon by breeding in Gen II?
Bruno is so bad, a baby was able to out-speed his Pokemon.
Really enjoyed this video. Doing a few other challenge formats to break things up and keep it fresh sounds fun! Thanks as always for the great content.
Allways comming back to this video. Still amazing, that you made it
Whenever I thought about it, I imagined this challenge would be the easiest because of how easy it is to manipualte the E4's ai. However, it kind of surprised me that there is a somewhat difficult aspect to planning out your movesets, since they're so limited in generation 1. Like PointCrow's level 1 team for the Black and White Elite Four, it essentially swept through with ease because of endeavor, sandstorm, and soothe bell.
Saying this before I watch: I'm 100% sure it is. Especially if you allow Time Capsule/breeding stuff. Plus, TMs. "Good" AI & Poison-types, Ghost-types, etc. should make this a cakewalk. Anyway, will probably comment more later! Thanks for uploading!
Another video!? Perfect way to start the day. Keep up the good work Jrose
Best Bruno fight of all time! Thank you for your great content.
Found out about your channel and started binging your vids like 3 days ago. Good stuff man. Makes for some pretty interesting chill content to put on while I do some work.
Mad love your way, Jrose. I love all your challenge vids; solo runs are always great, but the other content you release is always amazing too. Definitely one of my favorite channels to relax and unwind with, and I hope you know how much we all appreciate you
When behind a substitute, your confusion damage is inflicted upon the opponent’s substitute. If it doesnt have one, nothing actually happens. Maybe after the damage is inflicted on the opponents sub, it then checks the health of the sub, which is obviously 0 already, and then perceives that the sub mustve broken, hence the text mentioning it
Sounds like the game confused itself lol.
Upon seeing the title I thought I had already figured out how this would work. Turns out I was wrong and there was waaaayyy more to it. Well done.
Amazing :D You can actually get leech seed at lvl 5, but I'm not sure what it would do to the AI as you'd need to use Exeggcute instead of Tangela. With some careful breeding you can hatch Exeggcute with Leech Seed, Sleep Powder, Toxic and confusion :D
Likewise, he could get Bulbasaur with Leech Seed, Toxic, and Sleep Powder, and teach it Substitute, and Poison is always good typing for screwing with the smart AI.
I love how you narrate your videos and this run was the most fun thing I have watched in a while
This is the top tier content I always look forward to.
this is on par with the video that got me into your channel in the first place, the magikarp run
fantastic video! congrats!
Absolutely love how happy Jrose sounds when beating Bruno 1st try.
😄👍
A space jam reference from jrose?! Love to see it lol, glad to see you making more videos again.
That Gastly's moveset is something Agatha would think of.
I have never heard you laugh as much as I did in this video. I think I've watched every video except three. Good stuff
Leech seed actually *was* available to you at level 5 since you were breeding your Pokémon in gen 2.
Not sure if it’s still a thing in later gens, but in gen 2 at least, if both parents know a move that the baby can learn as a level up move, the baby will hatch knowing that move. I had a level 5 cyndiquill with flamethrower using this method back in the day.
Using this method, you could have had a bulbasaur with sleep powder and leech seed. You could also have had exeggcute, but bulbasaur’s poison typing is more useful with good ai.
Only the Father pokemon needs to know the move. Bulbpedia is running off of after Gen 6
Yeah I’m really shocked he didn’t do that or know that since he bred other Pokémon to get specific moves.
I love your videos so much. I like your commentary, and how level your voice is. The videos are exciting but never loud. So they're actually very calming to watch! I really enjoy that you mention the technical aspects of certain things, how this works, why you chose this strategy, etc. I enjoy watching them but because they're not loud I'll also sometimes just put them on for nice, non distracting background noise. Always very enjoyable!
Bruno never fails to disappoint good lord
And yet Lance was possibly easier
@@AT-il2ej thats kinda the point, you have an easy way to cheese lance but bruno really is just that bad
@@GhengizKanye You make fun of Bruno but Lance is literally unaware of how the thing he's dedicated his entire life to works.
When I saw this video initially in my sub box I was like "...ehhhhh..." but this was exciting, thrilling, and more than anything else, FUN. Thank you for the great content :)
I'm almost starting to feel bad for Bruno at this point.
JRose, I'm having an *AWFUL* day. Our power got turned off out of the blue and I nearly had to drive over to work (which I HATE) instead of working from home. Just as we got the power on, I see your video in my subs box.
Thanks for being an awesome person and uploading a video and the most perfect time to cheer up my day.
This run was a fun one. I didn't think it was even possible. It's kinda cool that this was a run that didn't need any badge boosting.
...That said, how fast can you beat the game using Missingno.?
Since I’ve been watching your channel I have learned so much about Gen 1 POKéMON. I can’t thank you enough for what you do and how much you have inspired me to learn more about the game series I grew up with. Your passion is contagious. Keep being you mate thanks again!
5:43 You double-counted the turn the pokémon wakes up here. The actual amount of turns a pokémon is asleep is 0-6 turns (it can wake up on the turn it falls asleep) but after factoring in the turn where the pokémon wakes up, it becomes 1-7.
You are forgetting that since all the lvl 5 pokemon are slower, the enemy pokemon can never wake up on the turn it was put to sleep. So it would be the turn put to sleep (1), and the next turn waking up (2).
thanks to you. i started manipulating the AI in red/blue more and more than i have in the past. i did this with my Jessie and James anime team challenge and even beat mewtwo in pokemon blue because of the GOOD AI that really wasn't good AI because they use stuff like agility. also i never miss a video of yours. some ive watch again to get ideals to see if i could ever out speed your times which is hard to top so. also scott's thoughts doing Pokemon Yellow makes two good sources for gen 1along with Mah-Dry-Bread. the 3 of you are the ultimate Pokemon Masters
Regarding the Leech Seed tidbit at the end, couldn't you have bred an Exeggcute with Leech Seed + Sleep Powder + Toxic + Substitute? Or was that not a legal combination?
Breeding didn't exist then.
@@Crusina He was using eggs from gen 2 traded into gen 1 so yes breeding existed. He was also using gen 2's level 5 moveset rather than gen 1s.
Yes it gotta be possible.
There are some weird mechanics regarding inherited moves I just looked up and didn't know for sure until rn (just knew there was some mechanics since I bred for Little Cup in Stadium 2 back in time).
Apparently it depends on the evo-line how many moves the baby will have (2 for most species), PLUS certain regular moves from the father under certain conditions. It will always inherit egg moves, the father's gen2-TM-moves if learnable and regular level up moves IF mom+dad both have it. So yes according to the guide I found lvl 5 leech seed Exeggcute, Bulbasaur and others should be possible.
Don't know how it's nowadays though, didn't breed much since then tbh
Ah
@@Crusina As cmck said, Jrose11 was using bred Pokémon from Gold/Silver/Crystal through tradeback. It is stated on the video. It wouldn't have made sense that Jrose had Lv5 Tangela with Sleep Powder or Dratini with Supersonic otherwise
I’m blown away by the commitment it takes to pull this off. Amazing video and thank you for the entertainment
surprised you didn't use leech seed/ subseed, especially with the toxic/seed glitch in gen I
Then you didn't watch until the end. He specifically arrested that strat
Yea he said it would not be availible. Not 100% sure but isn't it possible to have a level 7 male bulbasaur with leech seed and a female bulbasaur, so the egg bulbasaur already starts with leech seed?
"We didn't use any cheap strategies" - proceeds to abuse the game's AI, sleep, toxic, and substitute
So how difficult would you rate this compared to your other experiments, was it easier than any of the single pokemon runs?
You know I’ve been thinking about how the uploads have slowed down lately, but if it’s for content like this I am more than willing to wait! Keep crushing it jrose!
5:21 how is hypnosis 30/20
I'd also like to know how that happened, really sticks out.
I love the impossible challenges. So happy to see it back! It's one of the main reason I can't wait to see you upload!
This was great. Big respect for this video.
The one questuon I have is, did you actually breed all the pokemon and just got the tms via missingno or did you actually just create the team? This would be interesting to me because you actually talked about the option you had for making this team legitimately and I think it would not be out of reach for you to just do that
Both, I could not find a way to get the saves to interact (I used an everdrive). I think I've figured out the issue so I might be able to do this in the future with the actual Pokemon I bred.
@@Jrose11 oh that is shper interesting. Inhope your fix will work. Thanks for the reply
"The Slowbro forgot to do anything!" That line was gold 😂
17:28 just because I'm curious, if he were to use rage on one of your other mons, and after rage hits you switch to Gastly, will the Onix still be stuck on rage?
It should be locked on rage like Jynx
@@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU that sounds like a strategy to me. Imagine being locked forever to a move that cannot hit (while you actually have moves that can hit)
Amazing that this was possible. It's also really a bit of a different style of video for you but I am very here for it~!
I was a league registered competitive breeder for gen 6 (I made legit perfect stat babies with special egg move sets for competitive players) and I'm pretty sure in gen 2 a baby can inherit a move it would learn by level up if both parents know it. I did a lot of breeding in gen 2 too, for fun, but it has been a long time... Does Paras learn leech seed? A baby with leech seed and spore would be fantastic, yeah? Hmm.
Looking forward to seeing a full game level 5 clear attempt!!!
Not till gen 6
Good to have another video from you Jrose!!
I remember first stumbling onto your channel and was so happy to find someone that appreciates the Pokemon game as much as I do. Good to have you back man!!
This was an insane run, I never would have thought this was possible. However, I think if you had traded Tangela for a 2nd Ghastly, it would have been easier for you. Great job regardless!