Am a huge Terrence Crawford fan, But there is no way Crawford is P4P over Usyk its not even close, I got Crawford at #3 and Arthur Beterbiev at #2, Usky is P4P, Lets be honest Usyk dont get the credit deserves because he dont speak English.
Well your not a huge boxing fan then. Usyk just beat a mofo who arguably lost to a "Pro boxing novice 0-0", where he got dropped like a sack of potato's, how does that help Usyk in a p4p # discussion. Bruh, we almost literally seen a mofo making his pro debut become the lineal champion of the world, that would have broken even Leon Spinx record lmaooooo! Then Joshua knocks out dude in 2 rds and shows a how an experienced hwt pro boxer handles a novice. The Furry wins actually hurt Usyk , to an extent. But thats what boxing gets for hyping up fighters who do the bare minimum! If Errol would have gotten dropped and arguably lost to a mofo making his pro debut (0-0, ala Ngannou) in a tune up fight prior to fighting Bud, what would have been said about Crawfords p4p standing for beating Errol? We both know what time it is. 1
the hate for crawford is ridiculous they will tell you crawford has a trash resume but dont say that inoueee has a trash resume compared to crawford they will tell you crawford destroyed fighters that was already damaged but will give usyk credit claiming hes number one for defeating a fury who was already damaged from fightin wilder and ngannou crawford is still number one and usyk is second then inoueee is third
if crawrorddddd fought more frequently then it would likely not be hard to argue against him as #1PFP. if Inoue or Usyk only fought once every 18-24 months and crawforddd was fighting twice a year then people would riot if anyone tried to argue that either should be #1 over crawfordddd
@@heckle9 crawford is avoided those other two fighters arent and even if you dont believe thats the case there was never a fight where people questioned crawfords win last fight they questioned crawfords win but that was only because crawford didnt get the stoppage but crawford won without any controversy and the fight wasnt close
Even some Fury supporters pointed out that he fought very impressively in rematch with Usyk, and never looked more competitive. They said he was at his best version of himself and would have beaten anyone else. Usyk slightly out smarted and out worked Fury and withstood his power. Bud never faced a top fighter bigger and stronger than himself. But Usyk has, and with repeated wins. Bud is great but certainly not shown to be greater than Usyk ☹️.
Usyk is a heavyweight and shouldn’t be on the pound-for-pound list. The list was started and created because of the heavyweight division. Therefore, pound-for-pound is for fighters outside of the heavyweight division. If Usyk returns to Cruiserweight, then he should be on the list.
@ Wtf are you talking about I genuinely had to read this comment twice because of the stupidity🤦🏽♂️Bud is one of my favourite fighters I like him more then usyk, but it’s a fact Usyk has a better resume, going undisputed at cruiserweight then going up and being undisputed at heavyweight fighting and beating motherfuckers who are 20-30 pounds heavier then you is insane, I was genuinely baffled when I read ur comment and even saying shit like “Pookie” you must be gay wtf
“If they were same size” ain’t a real argument imo If my aunt was a guy, she’d be my uncle Based on who they beat and the adversity they had to overcome i think Usyk is a clear #1. But Bud and Inoue are HOF level fighters and are also great
Usyk is an Olympic gold medalist! He beat guys that weigh 30 - 55 pounds more than him, his cruserweight undisputed is the deepest! He took everybody's O and he went to their back yard to do it e.g Michael hunter, Murat Gassiev, Mairis Briedis, Marck Huck, Glowacki.... Usyk is the best cruiserweight in boxing history and top 5 heavyweight in boxing history. Yes, Usyk is an all-time great and number 1 above Crawford
Crawford, Inoue, Beterbiev, no hwts on legit p4p lists. Holyfield was undefeated cruiserweight and undefeated hwt champion of the world and never was considered # 1 p4p by boxing outlets back then, let that sink in. In fact no heavyweight since Mike Tyson ( prior to the Buster Douglas fight) has got that accolade, and that was 40 yrs ago or so. Now its a hwt thing all of a sudden, because of Fury and Usyk, hell i i wonder why, what a convenient coincidence. Smh.
@ I don’t really care for race brother… his skill set and resume deserves the top spot and what he has done. It’s close but for me usyk deserves the top spot
Apparently you dont care about reading comprehension or historical facts either. brother. I said no hwts belong on any legit p4p list, obviously that includes all races and ethnicities. Why??? The # 1 p4p fighter distinction, has never been ment for a hwt fighter not remotely close, that includes Ali, Marciano, Frazier, Foreman, Mike Tyson, The Klitsckos, Fury and yes, Usyk aswell. I have no problems people having Inoue or even Beterbieve # 1, even though i dont agree, i believe Crawford is a better all around fighter both but i'll take either one over a misplaced hwt.
@@sanctusdeuscruor6219 your last sentence implied race fam.. I think usyk is different because he didn’t start as a heavyweight… he cleaned out cruiserweight for the trophy then he moves up and schools top heavyweights much larger than him. That’s why to me he is different.
This trainer is not as wise as some fans think. Usyk has fought greater competition than Bud. He beat bigger hard hitting top opponents using skill and IQ, and he showed elite durability. Smaller fighters like Bud and Inoue are more agile and fast but Inoue has not fought the level of competition that Usyk has. Bud has never faced a heavy puncher with skill who is stronger than him, so he has not proven he is P4P equal to Usyk. Usyk's boxing IQ is not exceeded by Bud or Inoue. Sorry guys.
I don’t agree with Breadman on this topic. Usyk has a better resume, fought fighters at their best, and takes on the young fighters like Daniel Dubois.
@@dacoaching9862 I swear people are getting paid off to pump up Crawford. Too many of us can objectively see he’s not that good and is getting glazed by all of these pundits for some reason.
Usyk is number 1 pound for pound. He has the better resume, fought bigger names fighters at their best when the people wanted to see the fight, and he fights younger hungry fighters that the people want to see. Crawford resume not it and he didn’t fight the top guys at their best plus Crawford doesn’t fight the hungry top guy that everyone wants to see. Usky take on more risky challenges that’s why he the number 1 pound for pound 🥊
Usyk is #1 right now no doubt it's changes as the top guys fight if bivol didn't get cheat he would've been 2 until Crawford fight again then he is back #1. Inoue has no competition at all he better move up everyone else had to.
Canelo still the KING, here are the FACTS, for all the moist fanboy's feelings! "World Champions are Not Iterim or belts, they beat a OG CHAMP" Pacquiao beat 24 World Champions of 31 at 7 weight classes champion..........NEVER UNDISPUTED !! Floyd beat 23 World Champions of 23 at 5 weigh classes champion..................NEVER UNDISPUTED !! Chavez beat 17 World Champions of 22 at 3 weight classes champion..............NEVER UNDISPUTED !! P4P # 1 Canelo beat 19 World Champions of 22 at 4 weight classes Champion.......1 time Undisputed. 1st time Undisputed vs Undisputed. 34yrs # 2 Inoue beat 13 World Champions of 13 at 4 weigh classes Champion........2 times Undisputed. 31 years old # 3 Bud beat 10 World Champions of 10 at 4 weight classes Champion.......2 times Undisputed. 37 years old # 4 Usyk beat 9 World Champions of 9 at 2 weight classes Champion.......2 times Undisputed. 38 years old # 5 Artur beat 6 World Champions of 6 at 1 weight class Champion...........1 time Undisputed. 40 years old # GGG beat 6 World Champions of 9 at 2 weight classes Champion.........NEVER UNDISPUTED. *Usyk, Artur, Bud one more fight in 2025 and they are done!! Inoue and Canelo still have 3 to 5 years more to add to they resume ......
@@JP.nikesox13 You missed the P4P King point fanboy ! and 3-5 year its the average age 39-42 to retired. Floyd 40, Pacquiao 42, Tyson 39, Ali 39, Chavez 43...... I know it hurst the ss for ppl know that Canelo still the face of boxing til this day and 2025 !
@@aifightedited 🤣🤣I’m the fan boy yet you’re writing a whole paragraph claiming how Canelo is the face of boxing 🤣funny how yall always run to claim Canelo as the face yet complain when the heat that comes with being the face gets put on Canelo . Yall Canelo fan boys are the only reason he is still relevant because we’ve all seen your so called face of boxing take the safe route and avoid his biggest challenge to date while everyone else in P4p conversation actually gives the fans what they want . Cry about it some more please
Mr. Loady gloves? Sorry but no...trash resume...and he doesn't fight often enough...we got Beterbiev and Benevides actually doing what people are acting like Crawfraud is doing...
Why the hate on Usyk in what world does a great heavyweight get rated lower than a great welterweight come on bro heavies risk literally death every fight other weight classes not so much
Who did bud fight really He Got the worst resume in boxing 🥊. Duck 🦆 Boots 2 times Usyk is not the greatest heavyweight 🤦🏽♂️ this boxing era is soft TURKI MATCHROOM DAZN GOLDEN BOY TOP RANK ALL UNDER ONE ROOF 😂😂PBC IS THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐 OF THIS 🥊
I know it's tough to gauge but I say Bud. Bud has more fights then both of them. Thus, he's had more time to display skills at a top level in different weight divisions. So because of that one factor (number of fights) it's Bud. So, the frequency of Bud fighting is not an issue. He's proved himself over and over again. BTW all these fighters don't fight often anyway.
Usyk’s resume is better than Bud’s though. And your point is essentially saying that Usyk has accomplished enough equal (or greater) number of achievements in less time.
Usyk beat a washed up fury, fury wouldn't beat the top guys in the 90s not bowe not holyfield ..usyk would get knocked out by all those guys he is to basic
Usyk is far above Crawford. Usyk won against much bigger opponents than Crawford. And Usyk could outstand their punches. So no chance Crawford could hurt him if they would be in same size.
I agree for the most part. It’s a subjective topic but he tried to break it down logically w/o emotions like a lot of fans do. No real wrong answers
Hold up" Aren't You A Fan With Emotions?
Talk about a certain BIAS 🥊
Am a huge Terrence Crawford fan, But there is no way Crawford is P4P over Usyk its not even close, I got Crawford at #3 and Arthur Beterbiev at #2, Usky is P4P, Lets be honest Usyk dont get the credit deserves because he dont speak English.
Well your not a huge boxing fan then. Usyk just beat a mofo who arguably lost to a "Pro boxing novice 0-0", where he got dropped like a sack of potato's, how does that help Usyk in a p4p # discussion. Bruh, we almost literally seen a mofo making his pro debut become the lineal champion of the world, that would have broken even Leon Spinx record lmaooooo! Then Joshua knocks out dude in 2 rds and shows a how an experienced hwt pro boxer handles a novice. The Furry wins actually hurt Usyk , to an extent. But thats what boxing gets for hyping up fighters who do the bare minimum!
If Errol would have gotten dropped and arguably lost to a mofo making his pro debut (0-0, ala Ngannou) in a tune up fight prior to fighting Bud, what would have been said about Crawfords p4p standing for beating Errol? We both know what time it is. 1
the hate for crawford is ridiculous they will tell you crawford has a trash resume but dont say that inoueee has a trash resume compared to crawford
they will tell you crawford destroyed fighters that was already damaged but will give usyk credit claiming hes number one for defeating a fury who was already damaged from
fightin wilder and ngannou crawford is still number one and usyk is second then inoueee is third
if crawrorddddd fought more frequently then it would likely not be hard to argue against him as #1PFP.
if Inoue or Usyk only fought once every 18-24 months and crawforddd was fighting twice a year then people would riot if anyone tried to argue that either should be #1 over crawfordddd
@@heckle9 crawford is avoided those other two fighters arent and even if you dont believe thats the case there was never a fight where people questioned crawfords win last fight they questioned crawfords win but that was only because crawford didnt get the stoppage but crawford won without any controversy and the fight wasnt close
@@shawnterrance7204 u just contradicted yourself. You fools stay in your feelings, not making any sense.
Even some Fury supporters pointed out that he fought very impressively in rematch with Usyk, and never looked more competitive. They said he was at his best version of himself and would have beaten anyone else. Usyk slightly out smarted and out worked Fury and withstood his power. Bud never faced a top fighter bigger and stronger than himself. But Usyk has, and with repeated wins. Bud is great but certainly not shown to be greater than Usyk ☹️.
@ Bud.is.not.great.👈🏿
Usyk is a heavyweight and shouldn’t be on the pound-for-pound list. The list was started and created because of the heavyweight division. Therefore, pound-for-pound is for fighters outside of the heavyweight division. If Usyk returns to Cruiserweight, then he should be on the list.
Crawford is the best fighter in the world, usyk is still pound 4 pound number 1 based off accomplishments
The the fanboy pipe down Pookie, wtf has Usyk done that Crawford hasnt in accomplishments, do tell?
@ Wtf are you talking about I genuinely had to read this comment twice because of the stupidity🤦🏽♂️Bud is one of my favourite fighters I like him more then usyk, but it’s a fact Usyk has a better resume, going undisputed at cruiserweight then going up and being undisputed at heavyweight fighting and beating motherfuckers who are 20-30 pounds heavier then you is insane, I was genuinely baffled when I read ur comment and even saying shit like “Pookie” you must be gay wtf
Aw … he had to break it down… right! WTH?
“If they were same size” ain’t a real argument imo
If my aunt was a guy, she’d be my uncle Based on who they beat and the adversity they had to overcome i think Usyk is a clear #1. But Bud and Inoue are HOF level fighters and are also great
thats the whole premise of pound for pound though 😂
Usyk is an Olympic gold medalist! He beat guys that weigh 30 - 55 pounds more than him, his cruserweight undisputed is the deepest! He took everybody's O and he went to their back yard to do it e.g Michael hunter, Murat Gassiev, Mairis Briedis, Marck Huck, Glowacki.... Usyk is the best cruiserweight in boxing history and top 5 heavyweight in boxing history. Yes, Usyk is an all-time great and number 1 above Crawford
Top 5 Heavyweight? 😅 Excellent fighter, but not close to a top 5 heavyweight all time.
Achievement wise na
Elaborate, comment is vague bruh
No way he’s better than those two guys, usyk and inoue fight at least twice a year, bud fights every year and a half.
Usyk
Crawford
Inoue
Crawford, Inoue, Beterbiev, no hwts on legit p4p lists. Holyfield was undefeated cruiserweight and undefeated hwt champion of the world and never was considered # 1 p4p by boxing outlets back then, let that sink in.
In fact no heavyweight since Mike Tyson ( prior to the Buster Douglas fight) has got that accolade, and that was 40 yrs ago or so. Now its a hwt thing all of a sudden, because of Fury and Usyk, hell i i wonder why, what a convenient coincidence. Smh.
@ I don’t really care for race brother… his skill set and resume deserves the top spot and what he has done. It’s close but for me usyk deserves the top spot
Apparently you dont care about reading comprehension or historical facts either. brother.
I said no hwts belong on any legit p4p list, obviously that includes all races and ethnicities.
Why???
The # 1 p4p fighter distinction, has never been ment for a hwt fighter not remotely close, that includes Ali, Marciano, Frazier, Foreman, Mike Tyson, The Klitsckos, Fury and yes, Usyk aswell.
I have no problems people having Inoue or even Beterbieve # 1, even though i dont agree, i believe Crawford is a better all around fighter both but i'll take either one over a misplaced hwt.
@@sanctusdeuscruor6219 your last sentence implied race fam.. I think usyk is different because he didn’t start as a heavyweight… he cleaned out cruiserweight for the trophy then he moves up and schools top heavyweights much larger than him. That’s why to me he is different.
Availability is the best ability and if consistency, activity and opponent selection don't matter then yes Crawford can be #1 in the world
This trainer is not as wise as some fans think. Usyk has fought greater competition than Bud. He beat bigger hard hitting top opponents using skill and IQ, and he showed elite durability. Smaller fighters like Bud and Inoue are more agile and fast but Inoue has not fought the level of competition that Usyk has. Bud has never faced a heavy puncher with skill who is stronger than him, so he has not proven he is P4P equal to Usyk. Usyk's boxing IQ is not exceeded by Bud or Inoue. Sorry guys.
I don’t agree with Breadman on this topic. Usyk has a better resume, fought fighters at their best, and takes on the young fighters like Daniel Dubois.
@@dacoaching9862 I swear people are getting paid off to pump up Crawford. Too many of us can objectively see he’s not that good and is getting glazed by all of these pundits for some reason.
Usyk is number 1 pound for pound. He has the better resume, fought bigger names fighters at their best when the people wanted to see the fight, and he fights younger hungry fighters that the people want to see. Crawford resume not it and he didn’t fight the top guys at their best plus Crawford doesn’t fight the hungry top guy that everyone wants to see. Usky take on more risky challenges that’s why he the number 1 pound for pound 🥊
Usyk is #1 right now no doubt it's changes as the top guys fight if bivol didn't get cheat he would've been 2 until Crawford fight again then he is back #1. Inoue has no competition at all he better move up everyone else had to.
Bam bam Rodriguez around his weight class
@@Kao_777 Would love to see that fight
@ same
Canelo still the KING, here are the FACTS, for all the moist fanboy's feelings! "World Champions are Not Iterim or belts, they beat a OG CHAMP"
Pacquiao beat 24 World Champions of 31 at 7 weight classes champion..........NEVER UNDISPUTED !!
Floyd beat 23 World Champions of 23 at 5 weigh classes champion..................NEVER UNDISPUTED !!
Chavez beat 17 World Champions of 22 at 3 weight classes champion..............NEVER UNDISPUTED !!
P4P
# 1 Canelo beat 19 World Champions of 22 at 4 weight classes Champion.......1 time Undisputed. 1st time Undisputed vs Undisputed. 34yrs
# 2 Inoue beat 13 World Champions of 13 at 4 weigh classes Champion........2 times Undisputed. 31 years old
# 3 Bud beat 10 World Champions of 10 at 4 weight classes Champion.......2 times Undisputed. 37 years old
# 4 Usyk beat 9 World Champions of 9 at 2 weight classes Champion.......2 times Undisputed. 38 years old
# 5 Artur beat 6 World Champions of 6 at 1 weight class Champion...........1 time Undisputed. 40 years old
# GGG beat 6 World Champions of 9 at 2 weight classes Champion.........NEVER UNDISPUTED.
*Usyk, Artur, Bud one more fight in 2025 and they are done!! Inoue and Canelo still have 3 to 5 years more to add to they resume ......
Canelo ain’t no P4P 👑 we saw him move up get smoked, then move back down & avoid the true top competition at his original weight.
@@slicks1175 The reality and FACTS don't care about your feelings or bias opinion...
@@aifighteditedCanelo still as 3 to 5 years left !? Please tell us his options fighting wise because im curious to hear this
@@JP.nikesox13 You missed the P4P King point fanboy ! and 3-5 year its the average age 39-42 to retired. Floyd 40, Pacquiao 42, Tyson 39, Ali 39, Chavez 43...... I know it hurst the ss for ppl know that Canelo still the face of boxing til this day and 2025 !
@@aifightedited 🤣🤣I’m the fan boy yet you’re writing a whole paragraph claiming how Canelo is the face of boxing 🤣funny how yall always run to claim Canelo as the face yet complain when the heat that comes with being the face gets put on Canelo . Yall Canelo fan boys are the only reason he is still relevant because we’ve all seen your so called face of boxing take the safe route and avoid his biggest challenge to date while everyone else in P4p conversation actually gives the fans what they want . Cry about it some more please
Mr. Loady gloves? Sorry but no...trash resume...and
he doesn't fight often enough...we got Beterbiev and
Benevides actually doing what people are acting
like Crawfraud is doing...
Loaded gloves? 🤡
@ 3 plus fights of confirmed glove tampering 🫵🏿🤡🤫
@@remyogun8270 ur a weirdo breh
Usyk 1C?!?
Why the hate on Usyk in what world does a great heavyweight get rated lower than a great welterweight come on bro heavies risk literally death every fight other weight classes not so much
Where did you hear the hate come from? Just got to respect the fact that he's in entitled to his on opinion💯
Where did you hear the hate come from? We have to respect the fact that he's entitled to his own opinion 💯
Who did bud fight really He Got the worst resume in boxing 🥊. Duck 🦆 Boots 2 times Usyk is not the greatest heavyweight 🤦🏽♂️ this boxing era is soft TURKI MATCHROOM DAZN GOLDEN BOY TOP RANK ALL UNDER ONE ROOF 😂😂PBC IS THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐 OF THIS 🥊
😂😂 stop talking please
I know it's tough to gauge but I say Bud. Bud has more fights then both of them. Thus, he's had more time to display skills at a top level in different weight divisions. So because of that one factor (number of fights) it's Bud. So, the frequency of Bud fighting is not an issue. He's proved himself over and over again. BTW all these fighters don't fight often anyway.
Usyk’s resume is better than Bud’s though. And your point is essentially saying that Usyk has accomplished enough equal (or greater) number of achievements in less time.
Usyk literally just said Bud is number one. Only secret haters will disagree
@@samueldavis5895 Bud said Usyk is number one as well.
@ Usyks statement was just last week so ima take his word for it since everyone saying he’s number one 😉
Bud has more than them against who they been good agents better fighters than him
Usyk beat a washed up fury, fury wouldn't beat the top guys in the 90s not bowe not holyfield ..usyk would get knocked out by all those guys he is to basic
FOH. 🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆#boxing 🥊
Nope
As you get older aren’t you eventually gonna fight less? 😂😂😂😂
Crawford and usyk are the same age
Crawford
Usyk
Keyshawn
Tank
Inoue
😂😂😂
Usyk is far above Crawford.
Usyk won against much bigger opponents than Crawford.
And Usyk could outstand their punches. So no chance Crawford could hurt him if they would be in same size.
Bud got more fights then both of them tho 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ErinWalker-l2d against bums and over the hill fighters out of their prime. He’s a joke.
Bud p4p for sure no dispute what are we really asking 😆
Usyk is P4P #1
This dude is a 🤡. Crapford is Crap.
@@Bandit-Boxing ong 🤦🏿♂️