I compared the Arrow 4K to the previous Arrow blu-ray and found there to be an appreciable improvement in fine detail overall. It was not a night and day difference but I did find the 4K upgrade to be worthwhile and when it comes to Kelly LeBrock in her prime, I want as much detail as I can get.
I think Arrow needs to stop referring to O-ring slipcovers as "limited edition packaging" and go back to calling them "special edition" releases. This seems to be something new that they only started doing this year (conflating rigid LE slipcases with O-ring slipcovers). Nowadays, people have no idea whether they're getting a slipcover or a hard box slipcase (and it's not like the photos really help... the marketing photos can be very deceiving). I feel like this confusion may be intentional on Arrow's part... almost like they want collectors to believe they're getting hard slipcases when they're not (i.e. kind of like a "bait-and-switch" deal).
After Sixteen Candles and Breakfast Club, which were well-reviewed and hits, Weird Science came out to almost totally negative reviews and did pretty poorly at the box office. At the time, I thought eventually it would seem better than it did at the time. It's grown on me since then.
I was thinking the limited edition was one of the cool boxsets Arrow does. That's a bit of a bummer but I can't wait to watch Weird Science in 4k. Great review Ken!
I watched this last night, Barnes and Noble has it out a week early. Yes its quite grainy in places, but the detail is next level. Excellent upgrade, but admittedly I am keeping my arrow bluray in case I ever wanted to go with a lower grain presentation.
My goal is to get all of the Brat Pack movies in 4K as friends and family still enjoy them more so than classics and epics. If you ever get a projector setup, I think you will have a different take on films because it is a completely different experience than watching on television. I enjoy and appreciate your channel so it’s about time I subscribe as I have been watching for a many moons now.
I couldn't believe the amount of grain. It slaps you right in the face from the get go. I paused the movie and went to google to see if others had the same thoughts.
Weird Science is what I like to call the crazy drunken Uncle of the John Hughes films. I even liked the TV show cuz yea Vanessa Angel ❤Can’t wait to get my copy. It’s a shame you don’t recommend it for purchase but yea I always do anyway. I’ll see what other reviews say about it. I’m no grain hater and maybe it was the effects work is why.
Think I'll just stick to my Blu ray for this one. I did upgrade the Last Starfighter to 4k and although marginal I thought the upgrade was worth it. But I don't like this movie enough to double dip. I do really like the film, but to me the 4k downscaled 1080p Blu ray looks absolutely excellent already and I'm happy with it. I could probably say that about The Last Starfighter as well but I feel it's just fractionally a bit better on 4k. Plus that movie has more childhood nostalgic value for me than Weird Science.
Gutted it doesn’t come in one of those hard cardboard slip cases. I’ll just buy the blu Ray I think. Always loved this film from my childhood and would’ve loved it to get the Ltd edition treatment. Never mind
I picked it up yesterday from B&N. Thought the grain was a bit heavy too, but not enough to ruin it. That opening scene in particular was super grainy, but that was part of re-shoots, so maybe that explains it. I upgraded from an early 2000's dvd, so it was still a worthwhile upgrade for me.
@@bassage13Some Barnes and Noble stores got early stock. On reddit they said if you do an online pick up they will sell it to you. Got mine last Friday.
That is a huge disappointment. I also have the previous Blu release. If it was still at the original pre-order price I would be cancelling right now. As it is lower, I will leave it place and judge for myself.
Haven't seen Planes-Trains-Automobiles yet (but I soon will), but apart from that I totally agree. Weird Science beats them all. I was 19 when this film was published (and had chicks galore), but nonetheless... We need the 4K for one reason only: to close-up on Kyn Malin's upper torso.
Considering how much this movie popped when it was in theaters, this 4K sounds like a disappointment. I believe I'll stick with the Arrow Blu-ray and skip the double dip this go around.
I have the bluray and 4k Version and the 4k Version is terrible! Don't buy it, it is full of noise in almost all the scenes. Bluray does not have noise and I found the colors even better and more natural.
I agree that Arrow should have done something different for the 4K, but I do love the slip regardless. Weird Science has been one of my favorite movies since I first saw it on HBO in 1986. I appreciate you giving us your honest opinion. Although, I will have to see for myself.
I'm just disappointed Arrow chose to keep Alexandra Heller-Nicholas' essay grappling with her grandfathered in nostalgic enjoyment of the film with how "sexist" and "problematic" it is.
So you think that blu ray had more detail than the 4k ? Dude the grain appears lighter on the blu ray because it is scrubbed ! Most often during the 4k process the natural grain that is in the film is left alone.Don't worry we watch your channel to get a good laugh.We know that you haven't a clue about film restorations.
@@midlevelmediaThere are some rude people honestly when you went to the trouble of making this video…… I had the blu ray but sold it after I preordered the 4k version so I can’t compare the 2……. Did you manage to check out Final Jeopardy btw that I mentioned on your After Hours video ?
I'm usually a grain hater, but do I really like this one better then the Arrow blu, which had coarse grain, compared to semi fine here. Cleanup could have been closer to perfect, but an B+ overall. Maybe watch on a day when grain frames blend together better for you? Same with Ghostbusters and Spaceballs 4k. When I find them all too grainy, I know it's time for a few digitally shot movies or say a Pixar movie.
“Added in a lot of grain”. No. Movies shot on film don’t “add in” grain. Especially from labels like Arrow. The scan on the UHD just retains the natural film grain more fully than the 1080p Blu is capable of. Your problem isn’t with the transfer, it’s with the source material.
@@mv28 Looked like a truck of sand was dumped on the previous bluray they did. Not saying it's bad, I understand that's the natural state of the film, I just prefer the cleaner look for this particular film.
I compared the Arrow 4K to the previous Arrow blu-ray and found there to be an appreciable improvement in fine detail overall. It was not a night and day difference but I did find the 4K upgrade to be worthwhile and when it comes to Kelly LeBrock in her prime, I want as much detail as I can get.
Fuzzy picture for 4k disc sound not clear too at times
This one and Commando are tied for my favorite movie ever. It’s just the best.
I own Commando on blu ray
@@bigdadd09able shit, that’s my jam!
Still waiting for Commando on 4k!
@@nangaeboko6710 that would be great
@@nangaeboko6710Same! I’d love to get that film on 4k
I’ve got the blu ray in a great looking steelbook, I couldn’t bring myself to double dip anyway. Truly appreciate your honest reviews.
Same here. I bought the steelbook on Amazon a couple of years ago for 19.99. I'm pretty satisfied.
Great transfer here it's very filmic and natural!! I love all those retro sequences when they are in Wyatt's room designing Lisa ❤
Thanks for the no bs input. Would it be worthwhile to have an episode of films you prefer in Blu-ray over 4K?
Thank you ken for being honest about the transfer
One of my favorite child movies. Cannot wait to get my copy of this movie from Arrow.
I think Arrow needs to stop referring to O-ring slipcovers as "limited edition packaging" and go back to calling them "special edition" releases. This seems to be something new that they only started doing this year (conflating rigid LE slipcases with O-ring slipcovers). Nowadays, people have no idea whether they're getting a slipcover or a hard box slipcase (and it's not like the photos really help... the marketing photos can be very deceiving). I feel like this confusion may be intentional on Arrow's part... almost like they want collectors to believe they're getting hard slipcases when they're not (i.e. kind of like a "bait-and-switch" deal).
After Sixteen Candles and Breakfast Club, which were well-reviewed and hits, Weird Science came out to almost totally negative reviews and did pretty poorly at the box office. At the time, I thought eventually it would seem better than it did at the time. It's grown on me since then.
It would be nice if they could put 4K and/or UHD or anything on the damn spine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for the honesty, Ken. I don’t own this movie yet. So,I’ll just buy the 4K and hope for the best. Gotta get me that poster, too! 😅
I was thinking the limited edition was one of the cool boxsets Arrow does. That's a bit of a bummer but I can't wait to watch Weird Science in 4k. Great review Ken!
It still has a slipcover, reversible artwork, poster, etc. just in a smaller box, which is good - takes up less space.
@BB-ed4om I got it in the other day and the slip cover is beautiful! The movie looked great too! I'm happy with my purchase.
I am going to keep my Blu-ray Arrow release of the film..Thank you for giving this review..
The first few minutes totally explains why you don’t like the Ferris Blueller the character.
Ill definitely get this. It will be a first time watch for me
I watched this last night, Barnes and Noble has it out a week early. Yes its quite grainy in places, but the detail is next level. Excellent upgrade, but admittedly I am keeping my arrow bluray in case I ever wanted to go with a lower grain presentation.
It drives me mad when labels don't print the 4k logo on the spine of the slipcover.. just me?
Yes just you
My goal is to get all of the Brat Pack movies in 4K as friends and family still enjoy them more so than classics and epics. If you ever get a projector setup, I think you will have a different take on films because it is a completely different experience than watching on television.
I enjoy and appreciate your channel so it’s about time I subscribe as I have been watching for a many moons now.
Interesting, i'll stick to my blu ray steel. thanks ken
I couldn't believe the amount of grain. It slaps you right in the face from the get go. I paused the movie and went to google to see if others had the same thoughts.
I do love the 4 disc bonus extras mostly
Weird Science is what I like to call the crazy drunken Uncle of the John Hughes films. I even liked the TV show cuz yea Vanessa Angel ❤Can’t wait to get my copy. It’s a shame you don’t recommend it for purchase but yea I always do anyway. I’ll see what other reviews say about it. I’m no grain hater and maybe it was the effects work is why.
They had them out at Barnes and noble today! Picked one up and can’t wait to watch!
I watched both blu and 4k from arrow on my Sony 4k projector….I suggest you should go check your vision mate
Think I'll just stick to my Blu ray for this one. I did upgrade the Last Starfighter to 4k and although marginal I thought the upgrade was worth it. But I don't like this movie enough to double dip. I do really like the film, but to me the 4k downscaled 1080p Blu ray looks absolutely excellent already and I'm happy with it. I could probably say that about The Last Starfighter as well but I feel it's just fractionally a bit better on 4k. Plus that movie has more childhood nostalgic value for me than Weird Science.
Gutted it doesn’t come in one of those hard cardboard slip cases. I’ll just buy the blu Ray I think. Always loved this film from my childhood and would’ve loved it to get the Ltd edition treatment. Never mind
I picked it up yesterday from B&N. Thought the grain was a bit heavy too, but not enough to ruin it. That opening scene in particular was super grainy, but that was part of re-shoots, so maybe that explains it. I upgraded from an early 2000's dvd, so it was still a worthwhile upgrade for me.
How did you get it at B&N? The release date is 8/22. Are you not in the U.S.?
@@bassage13 I’m in the US. B&N released it 8/8.
@@bassage13Some Barnes and Noble stores got early stock. On reddit they said if you do an online pick up they will sell it to you. Got mine last Friday.
That is a huge disappointment. I also have the previous Blu release. If it was still at the original pre-order price I would be cancelling right now. As it is lower, I will leave it place and judge for myself.
Always be your own judge. It's not bad by any means, I just preferred the look of the blu.
They don't add in grain, they remove grain and ruin the detail.
I ‘ve always liked this movie since I first saw it in theaters
It's saddening to me that you said the 4k sucks. I really wanted this movie 🍿 to look awesome. 😔🤙
Me too
Haven't seen Planes-Trains-Automobiles yet (but I soon will), but apart from that I totally agree. Weird Science beats them all. I was 19 when this film was published (and had chicks galore), but nonetheless... We need the 4K for one reason only: to close-up on Kyn Malin's upper torso.
It’s really a great film too. Watch it this Thanksgiving.
Upgrading from DVD so it'll be fine for me I'm sure
To me, 4K always looks darker.
That’s cuz of the HDR.
That's what I thought.
So it's not really better, correct?
This is making me doubt the setting of your display. Every review is very positive on the 4K release except you. Interesting
Considering how much this movie popped when it was in theaters, this 4K sounds like a disappointment. I believe I'll stick with the Arrow Blu-ray and skip the double dip this go around.
I have the blu-ray steelbook
I do have the Blu-ray from Arrow
I have the bluray and 4k Version and the 4k Version is terrible! Don't buy it, it is full of noise in almost all the scenes. Bluray does not have noise and I found the colors even better and more natural.
I own the Arrow bluray Steelbook
I agree that Arrow should have done something different for the 4K, but I do love the slip regardless.
Weird Science has been one of my favorite movies since I first saw it on HBO in 1986.
I appreciate you giving us your honest opinion. Although, I will have to see for myself.
I'm just disappointed Arrow chose to keep Alexandra Heller-Nicholas' essay grappling with her grandfathered in nostalgic enjoyment of the film with how "sexist" and "problematic" it is.
Hey ken i just got weird science 4k on Friday just pass 😊
I'll stick with my arrow blu ray.
Sounds like you just saved me $12
So you think that blu ray had more detail than the 4k ? Dude the grain appears lighter on the blu ray because it is scrubbed !
Most often during the 4k process the natural grain that is in the film is left alone.Don't worry we watch your channel to get a good laugh.We know that you haven't a clue about film restorations.
Probably better ways to get a laugh, but I appreciate the click and engagement regardless. Lol
Not everyone has to be Shane Lee.
@@midlevelmediaThere are some rude people honestly when you went to the trouble of making this video…… I had the blu ray but sold it after I preordered the 4k version so I can’t compare the 2……. Did you manage to check out Final Jeopardy btw that I mentioned on your After Hours video ?
You can disagree with someone without laughing at them. Your comment was in poor taste. Let’s respect people even if we disagree.
I'm usually a grain hater, but do I really like this one better then the Arrow blu, which had coarse grain, compared to semi fine here. Cleanup could have been closer to perfect, but an B+ overall.
Maybe watch on a day when grain frames blend together better for you? Same with Ghostbusters and Spaceballs 4k. When I find them all too grainy, I know it's time for a few digitally shot movies or say a Pixar movie.
You watch films in installments dude just listen don't talk.lol😊
“Added in a lot of grain”. No. Movies shot on film don’t “add in” grain. Especially from labels like Arrow. The scan on the UHD just retains the natural film grain more fully than the 1080p Blu is capable of. Your problem isn’t with the transfer, it’s with the source material.
Wrong choice of words. Just meant the 4K was far too grainy.
@@midlevelmedia What is "too" grainy though? And how would you have them make it less grainy?
@@mv28 Looked like a truck of sand was dumped on the previous bluray they did. Not saying it's bad, I understand that's the natural state of the film, I just prefer the cleaner look for this particular film.
have no idea what you are talking about
don't speak or understand English?
I liked that actor in sixteen candles movie also