Morton Feldman, Rothko Chapel - Les Cris de Paris - Ensemble intercontemporain

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  • Morton Feldman
    Rothko Chapel
    John Stulz, alto
    Géraldine Dutronc, célesta
    Samuel Favre, percussions
    Adèle Carlier, soprano solo
    Les Cris de Paris
    Gregor A. Mayrhofer, direction
    Enregistré en direct le 24.02.2017 à la Cité de la musique
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  • @perry1559
    @perry1559 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is great relaxing music. We had Feldman at Hartt for a day or so for a “Meet the Composer symposium. He was a character. A Big old chain smoker he was. Witty like you wouldn’t believe, gregarious is a good word for him. His loud sort of NY Jew bravado was at odds with his style of music. Just close your eyes and float away. He able to get through a cigarette with the ashes intact the whole length, still in his mouth talking up a storm. It was a major subject to chat about for a few days. It was hilarious, so was he. One of the most important American composers we had since the beginning of this modern era. 🥹😅🪴❤️

  • @jppitman1
    @jppitman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    In the 2015 film "Seymour: An Introduction", pianist Seymour Bernstein states that the most meaningful music emanates from its softest and most delicate passages. "Rothko Chapel" is a prime example. There is a cosmic depth to this Feldman piece and it reflects the sparsely-tiered effects of Mark Rothko`s artistic style. The timbre of the chimes was something I`d not heard before; they rang with a Buddhist beauty. I also note the delicacy of the barely perceptible voices, almost to the point of the singers not being able to sing so softly. And complementary to those tones is the lonely violist with his subtle ministry to stillness and reflection.

    • @OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt
      @OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fanatic points you make and totally agree. This music is like the discovery of a new planet.

    • @rori219
      @rori219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Para meditar esta música va de lujo!!!

  • @danieldouay773
    @danieldouay773 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    L'expo Rothko achevée après des milliers de visiteurs sans qu'on ait y pu y entendre une seule installation audio de ce bel hommage mortuaire de l'ami Feldman compositeur, l'art musical 'contemporain' source de moindre profit, n'attirant jamais un public comparable à l'autre majusculé.

  • @talbarak4522
    @talbarak4522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    1st movement: 00:20
    2nd movement: 09:43
    3rd movement: 14:43
    4th movement: 17:33
    5th movement: 22:05

  • @kalleylitalo5936
    @kalleylitalo5936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Beautiful performance!! One of my favorite works at the moment. Every sound seems to have great impact and purpose.
    Never been so annoyed with youtube-advertisement though. The interruption of focus and absorption the music creates is even more pronounced than usual.

    • @molllev8227
      @molllev8227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      those advertisements are barbaric criminality

  • @Tara-fn6xg
    @Tara-fn6xg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fascinating, breathtaking music. Beautiful, spiritual performance

  • @MrInterestingthings
    @MrInterestingthings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really needed this . Feldman never rushes . Directionality and nn-directionality big issues in his mind and work . Took 12 and a half minutes before solo voice comes in love the idea of the viola . Feldman was a violin player but often thinks of the viola !

  • @OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt
    @OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is amazing and Boulez secretly loved it.

    • @torterrakart7249
      @torterrakart7249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why secretly?

    • @OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt
      @OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@torterrakart7249 @Torterra kart I think I opted for the use of the word 'secretly' because apparently Boulez dismissed Feldman’s early experiments with graphic notation as “too imprecise” and “too simple” in his correspondence with John Cage. My suspicion, though, is that Boulez was secretly jealous of Feldman's work on the basis that if you have sufficient belief in your own art, you don't need to waste unecessary energy by criticising someone else's (unless it is deliberately interfering with the production of your own). I also base this assertion on reports I've recently received from Heaven that Boulez now regularly listens to Feldman's piano pieces, Jimi Hendrix and Charlie Parker.

    • @MrTacoKingMC
      @MrTacoKingMC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stephen Routledge boulez is dead g

    • @OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt
      @OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrTacoKingMC He 'loved' it. Obviously prior to the inconvenience of being dead.

    • @ConcertGrande
      @ConcertGrande 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt also Pierre Boulez seems to be jealous of the great composer Xenakis'works too ! anyway he did not like Xenakis as Chostakovitch did not like Debussy !!! Morton Feldman 's Rothko Chapel with Ensemble Intercontemporain is gorgeous !!! thanks

  • @fiefbergen1
    @fiefbergen1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Eine der schönsten Sakralmusiken, die ich kenne, hier wunderbar interpretiert

  • @lotharlamurtra7924
    @lotharlamurtra7924 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    C'est la première fois que j'entends si nettement les cloches dans l'interprétation de cette œuvre.

  • @williamfeuer4954
    @williamfeuer4954 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fabulous job on my fav and very accessible Feldman piece.

  • @RafaelMacedoMusica
    @RafaelMacedoMusica 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cette interprétatión très profonde, comme ce propre ouvre.

  • @voiceover2191
    @voiceover2191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Unfortunately the choir is not up to the task and sing the wrong notes a lot of times. It is a piece as difficult to sing as it is beautiful. Probably Feldman's piece that reminds me most of Webern who is my favourite all time composer. I was part of a choir that performed it many years ago and still remember how hard it was to perform, especially finding the right notes in these at times very complex harmonies and then singing them at ppppp volume, and we didn't do it exactly perfect as well, but wonderful to perform. I think the first piece I sang in a choir was by Feldman, called Christian Wolf in Camebridge, an a capella piece with just a series of chords and then repeated, one sheet of music and we messed it up every single time, it was so hard to do, but man, I love his music. Great person as well. He wants said concerning how an audience experiences his music, that it is like a tennis match, where you normally pay your ticket and you go to your seat, relax and enjoy the game, while when you go to listen to his music, you not only pay to get in, but you have to play yourself as well. Yeah, he had a great sense of humour. Also loved singing music by his wife Barabara Borden, especially her music for string quartet and chorus, beautiful piece.
    This is a performance I personally think is better:
    th-cam.com/video/p2AbTftDaZQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @MrInterestingthings
      @MrInterestingthings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow! Didn't know his wife too was a composer .

    • @voiceover2191
      @voiceover2191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrInterestingthings sorry, I said Barbara Borden, great soprano, however at no time Feldman's wife, I meant of course Barbara Monk

    • @psijicassassin7166
      @psijicassassin7166 ปีที่แล้ว

      In a piece like this, there are only sounds, but no wrong notes.

    • @voiceover2191
      @voiceover2191 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@psijicassassin7166 That's nonsense, though you may experience it as just sounds, I assure you singing random notes would sound very different.

    • @psijicassassin7166
      @psijicassassin7166 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@voiceover2191 I doubt it if the audience can tell the difference if the players played the wrong notes. In fact, the concept of the "right note" is an oppressive tonalist concept. Feldman's music is about all notes sounding wrong, and no one gives a damn.

  • @viarnet
    @viarnet 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    fantastic!

  • @nenadZF
    @nenadZF 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    - How minimalist your work can be?
    - Yes.

  • @MoiraRussell
    @MoiraRussell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Absolutely gorgeous, but I want to BEHEAD the people coughing.

    • @dylanneal2785
      @dylanneal2785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I recommend John Cage's "4'33"

    • @anodyne57
      @anodyne57 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      February, in Paris. Tis the season.

    • @LandOnBolts
      @LandOnBolts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tis the season to bring cough drops!

    • @MarcusHK1
      @MarcusHK1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidtibbs704 The Ensemble Intercontemporain might as well go all the way and commission a guillotine piece of music to perform during the execution.

    • @verslaflamme666
      @verslaflamme666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey girl, how did you get verified?

  • @machida5114
    @machida5114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    so good...

  • @Rozedesu
    @Rozedesu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tüyler ürpertici..

  • @francoisbrg
    @francoisbrg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    si vous lancer en même temps "les cris de Paris" et "le concerto de chambre" de Ligeti cela va super bien ensemble, et mérite réflexions.

  • @AndrewRudin
    @AndrewRudin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A shame that there are frequent extraneous noises in the audience, in a piece like this where silence and the meaningfulness of every sound seems so important. Also... have you visited the actual Rothko Chapel? As sparse and "meditative" as this piece might be to some, it's a barn-burning melodrama of stormy events, compared to what one experiences in the actual place, where for. quite a long time after you enter, there appears to be almost nothing to perceive in what initially appear to be. empty deep purple canvases. But if you become calm and quiet and stay for a while, you begin to see what is there. Perhaps the moment when the chimes begin to be heard he catches something of the place's ambiance.

  • @My-Dear
    @My-Dear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    펠드먼 - 로스코 채플 2악장 10:08 11:30

  • @oscarrocabert6268
    @oscarrocabert6268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Cough syrup everybody.

  • @OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt
    @OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely out of this Rothko!

  • @alanhardy3400
    @alanhardy3400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wouldn't be a proper concert, would it, without the audience coughing their guts up.

  • @margaritacastroguarin2606
    @margaritacastroguarin2606 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just saw a performance by William Marx of John Cage's 4'33'' and they also cough a lot! Hahaha it's so funny and weird.

  • @aeverton62
    @aeverton62 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you're going to put ads in something like this it's honestly better not to upload it at all. Ruined it completely.

  • @user-zv7fp9hg3g
    @user-zv7fp9hg3g 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:43~10:49

  • @nicholasserrambana
    @nicholasserrambana ปีที่แล้ว

    not the coughing at 0:55

  • @alexanderreikreik
    @alexanderreikreik 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the mahler 2ND it aint

  • @federicozimerman8167
    @federicozimerman8167 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the lark ascending ralph v williams

  • @1234567890ZZZZZ
    @1234567890ZZZZZ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gran obra! lastima que el solista de viola tenga una forma absurdamente romantica de tocar, que el coro esta desafinado con bastante frequencia y que la grabacion esta plagada de ruidos.

    • @culturalivrebr
      @culturalivrebr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      David Nunez não exagere

    • @armandopropati
      @armandopropati 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      El solista de viola estuvo correcto, la parte que le tocó tenía una letanía romántica. Además, Feldman abrevó de esas aguas sin ninguna clase de complejo.

  • @frankfeldman6657
    @frankfeldman6657 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny that they play it. Boulez thought MF a rank amateur.

    • @Tara-fn6xg
      @Tara-fn6xg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boulez thought similarly about Shostakovich.

    • @frankfeldman6657
      @frankfeldman6657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tara-fn6xg More power to him, Shostakovich is the worst.

    • @superscienceshow
      @superscienceshow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What can Boulez play bumblebee at 50 notes a second or something.

    • @captainhaddock6435
      @captainhaddock6435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well, everyone knows Boulez was a fanatic, dogmatic a-hole concerning his artistic preferences

  • @kpriech
    @kpriech 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the auditory is disgusting as usual, or ill! Wonderful music though.

  • @korsu2615
    @korsu2615 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wouldn't be a classical performance without someone in the audience dying of covid.. smh

  • @vicstein288
    @vicstein288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After listening to this noise I suddenly realised how stupid I am. I've been trying to compose at least one hit for past 50 years and of course nil success. Now I know that all I had to do is throw a bunch of notes together and let them play where they land. And since I always had a struggle with timing, here I don't have to use the Metronome at all. Wait for my first Hit piece shortly.

    • @wids
      @wids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lol? Not sure if hilarious or depressing

    • @vicstein288
      @vicstein288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tim Watson Yeah! Hahahaha. Think I go back listening to Oh Macdonald had a farm

  • @psijicassassin7166
    @psijicassassin7166 ปีที่แล้ว

    The piece sounds outdated. Too backward for the times.

  • @nikolausgerszewski2086
    @nikolausgerszewski2086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    there is no vibrato on the viola in the score! and there shouldn't be (this is not a virtuoso part!). also the turning of the pages in the choir should not be audible! from ensemble intercontemporain one would have expected a more thoughtful interpretation of this masterpiece! they basically ruin it, they have obviously no understanding of this music.

    • @davidcarter3049
      @davidcarter3049 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are they interpreting the viola part as a memory of the past, that the viola is actually story telling from an older world? Something nostalgic from a Jewish culture that’s been destroyed..I thought it sounded over romantic and not what I thought Feldman was about, but this is a piece of theatre that has a story telling aspect to it, it’s like a fragment of heritage or something

    • @nikolausgerszewski2086
      @nikolausgerszewski2086 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidcarter3049 This is not a theatre piece, it is an environment piece for the Rothko Chapel. There is no aspect of story telling either in Rothko or Feldman, and there is never any vibrato in Feldman. It is not supposed to sound romantic.