Yes, the modern myth that everything came from essentially nothing is so Intelligent! Who cares if all practical demonstrations of life comes from like life, who needs to actually see the accepted conclusions anyway, right?
The Transitive Property is a fundamental principle in mathematics and logic that states: If A=B, and B = C, then A = C. In Logic, this property applies to relationships that are equivalence relations. It is a cornerstone in reasoning, mathematics, and formal logic. The Transitive Property principle can actually be applied to form a counter argument against one of the most foundational, if not the most fundamental claims made by Darth Dawkins. It actually can be used as a defeater to his personal worldview. A) His claims and worldview. Darth claims that his personal worldview is without contradictions. Darth, referring to his "ultimate belief" said that "In order to reason at all, in order to question anything, there must be some ultimate belief about existence that is not subject to revision or falsification from which you reason about anything else." th-cam.com/video/fghlckf374c/w-d-xo.html He stated, when asked "What is Logic", replied by saying (quote) "Actual logic would be the mind of God." th-cam.com/video/4CEFn5-F2pU/w-d-xo.html He also stated that "God's mind is the Laws of Logic." th-cam.com/video/LORtMI0W_Vs/w-d-xo.html Darths position is that he only argues and/or speaks from the Christian Worldview, and that his worldview is the only true worldview. If this statement itself is true, then there should be no Logical errors, inconsistencies or fallacies in his statements and claims. The previous two statements ("Actual logic would be the mind of God" and "God's mind is the Laws of Logic") are describing God's attrubutes and are referring to God's inherent essence. These statements are NOT the same as saying that the Laws of Logic are merely a "reflection" of God's mind - these statements are both "is-are" statements, they are referring to a relationship of equality. In this case, Darth logically contradicts himself. Why? B) The Logical fallacy: Darth says that the biblical God is a concrete object. th-cam.com/video/5_bLmUdwZw0/w-d-xo.html He says that if something is a concrete one, it is not an abstract one. th-cam.com/video/jNx9lyo8wlk/w-d-xo.html The problem here is that Darth also says that the Laws of Logic and/or Logic is an abstraction. Based on the transitive property of equality, if the following conditions are true, then it would follow that: A) God = a mind, and B) God's mind = the Laws of Logic Then C) God = the Laws of Logic. C) Darth's Claims Recapped: God is a concrete being: This means God is not abstract but exists as a real, personal, and substantial entity. The Laws of Logic are the mind of God: These statements equate the laws of logic with God's mind. The Laws of Logic are abstractions: Abstractions are not concrete; they are conceptual, non-physical. They do not have an independent existence in the way concrete entities do. From these statements: If God is concrete, and the Laws of Logic are the mind of God, but the Laws of Logic are abstractions, then his claims of equality in essence create a logical inconsistency. D) The Contradiction: The contradiction arises because the claim is that God is said to be concrete. The Laws of Logic are said to be abstract. Darth says that a concrete object is NOT an abstraction. Therefore, Darth is asserting that the same entity is both concrete and abstract. This position is contradictory because concreteness and abstractness are mutually exclusive categories. E) Why This Is a Defeater: If Darth maintains all his original claims without modification, his position becomes internally inconsistent. Concreteness and Abstractness cannot logically coexist in the same entity. This contradiction exposes the incoherence of his worldview, particularly since the claim is that his worldview is without contradiction and is the only true worldview. Based on all of the above, since Darth himself said that a worldview is either true in its entirely or it is not entirely true, (th-cam.com/video/Q6o6PVwmv3U/w-d-xo.html) Darth's worldview, on it's own terms, contradicts itself and can therefore be dismissed as being the only true, coherent worldview. It is not necessary to provide multiple contradictions as a defeater, because to successfully demonstrate even one single contradiction is all that is necessary in order to falsify his claims about the coherence of his worldview.
lol Why are you so concerned about Darth content? Or adamant about responding to it? To the extent that you do! I understand his content attracts attention, but your extreme following of him is different... Just look at the name of your channel! LOL
@@ChessArmyCommander Lol I am aware of the name of my channel, and when I read your comment, it kinda made me laugh because I immediately thought of a scene from one of my favorite movies. I don't know if you've even seen the movie called "A History of Violence" it's from 2005 and starred Viggo Mortensen. In one scene, his wife Edie finally learns the truth about "Tom Stall" her husband. She finds out that it's not his real name, and when she confronts him, and asks him why he picked that name "Tom Stall," he replied by saying, "It was available." lol To answer your question, your question is actually more of a personal question, rather than something directly related to the video content I posted. But, even though it doesn't directly adress my video, I'll reply. I am so adamant and motivated about replying to his content is because I decided about 5+ years ago that I wanted to take a stand against this fraudster. I do not hate him personally, but I do hate anyone who claims that they have some type of a philosophical, bullet-proof, nuclear-strength, unassailable package that is even beyond question metaphysically. So, my motivation is to share the truth. I know I have the truth on my side. I want to share the good news with others. I'll close by saying that it's not rocket science. Any average kid has the capability to sniff out a skunk and determine that, in this specific case, not is all that it is claimed to be. Thanks again, and by the way, I actually admire some of your comments you have posted during the years related to DD and his script.
@@DARTHDAWKINSDEBUNKEDTHEWEBSITE It's really simple though. DD's supermetaphysical intangible space alien ghost daddy in the sky can't even make a ham sandwich. Recently I've seen nutjobs telling me I will bend a knee to the figments of their imagination. Why would this "god who loves us" want to make people bend knees when he just can't magic people who are disabled into being able to walk, so that they can bend a knee? It's not just DD but everybody who engages dishonestly in magical thinking. They know they aren't going to bring a ghost around to speak on a microphone on their behalf. They know they aren't going to show up with anything supernatural at all. Instead, they want to word everything to death and try to convince. They've got nothing. And not only that, they know they've got nothing. That is the soft spot.
Darth states that the primary metaphysic must secure the uniformity of nature. The christian god violates the uniformity of nature, not secures it. God does not meet the necessary requirements that presups claim. Also, presups like to use the SEP as a reference. The SEP article on metaphysics says that metaphysics may not exist. How can "that which is ultimate" be something that may not exist?
Gary is a sloppy thinker, having not thought through these concepts fully nor having a good grounding in philosophy or critical thinking skills, he is reasonably intelligent but relies on gobbledegook and the rooms where he always frequents with mod powers so he doesn't have to deal with anyone who can challenge him on a level playing field. He adopted presup to 'win' not to convert or because he actually believes in christianity. But it's not a real 'win', it's lazy and fallacious.
@@Austinole then why doesn't he learn or change, I've listened to him enough now to know that he is peddling the same rubbish. Granted he's refined some of his spiel a bit but it's still basically the same.
@@Austinole agreed, but think about it: What are the underlying reasons he has to stick to the script and cannot deviate from it? Because he is a sloppy thinker and hasn't thought through the arguments very well.
"We're in the midst of God's plan" 5 mins later "Athiests choose not to believe and give god the double middle finger" Which is it?? You're taking both sides when it's convenient and it's appalling.
And you misrepresent the Athiest perspective, because you dont know if God has a plan, because you dont know if there is a god. Cant have something from nothing
God has given every person enough reason and enough evidence to believe that He exists. These reasons come through the Bible, but if a person never read the Bible then there is nature. It is logical to assume that life does not come from non-life so everything has a beginning. That is the first stop a person should come to. If God reveals Himself right now in front of everybody, still many people would not seek God's forgiveness but would try to rationalise it through hallucination or some other mental gymnastics. In the end, no one will have excuse for their unbelief but will be judged based on the Gospel they rejected. Everybody is called but not all are accepted. Today is the day of salvation.
He's a grifter, avoid him. He thinks if you don't agree to his presuppositions then you are wrong and immoral. He's not arguing in good faith, he's doing it for the likes and attention from his fanbois.
Prove that there is god…… Once you prove it, we’ll believe as well. Otherwise, every time someone says that god exists, is like affirming something they don’t know, which is ludicrous and totally false.
The most consistent and logical explanation for the Christian God from a guy with a sandwich in his mouth who we know as our ultimate foundation of intuition and truth is complete BS! 😂
Asking if "we" could detect God if he hides himself smuggles in the presupposition that a human can make knowledge claims independent of God's revelation, which from the theistic worldview is irrational. I don't know that a "we" is possible without experiencing some aspect of God's revelation. Every descendant of Abraham was made in God's image and granted the knowledge of Good and Evil. So how can Man know what we can or cannot know about God without his revelation? Therefore, the premise is internally inconsistent and unsound. Also, an atheist should not answer "no" to whether we could detect God if he hides from us. I have no way of testing that. DD claims that God only exists in identity-and we can only know him if He reveals himself. So it's just the same defeater for DD every time . How do you know that God has revealed himself? You are forced to presuppose God to make it work, which is just special pleading. The same fool-proof defeater for every apologist.
It os only in the COMPLETE ABSENCE of the Trinitarian God of the Bible, or any being of similar scope, that the observed and codified laws of logic, the observed and demonstrated consistency of nature over time and space, and humanities moral nature are intelligble as meaningful concepts. They do not require metaphysical grounding, and to ask for it is a self serving and futile gesture, as the only answers one can arrive at are either trivially true ie; stuff is stuff or based on the inferred existence of a creator diety that limits possibility and dispenses revalation to random people as a part of its bizarre and illogical practice of self worship. In the presence of the Trinitarian God of Biblical Scripture, the violently abusive and jealous God of Abraham whose Son Jesus of Bethlehem comitted suicide by heracy using the Roman occupation as his weapon, nothing is grounded in any real way. An omnipotent being that created a vast universe for his amusement has the ability to change anything, anywhere, at any time. He could retcon reality and erase an hour, a day, a person, people, city, country, or planet, anything anywhere atbany time could not only cease to be, but never have been. Its nature is utterly inscrutable, its revelation differs from decade to decade, person to person, and its prophecies are the clear result of human invention. Fortunately, you can find truth, you can live free from the mess that is religion and its self refuting worldviews. Humble yourself before the majessty of the universe, the incredible evolved complexity of life, and the proven processes and methods used by people just like you to advance society from the dawn of humankind to its current state. Express contrition to your fellow humans for any falsehoods you spread as someone confused by theistic practices and lies, donate to secular charities to redress your support for corrupt churches and their leaders. Investigate the natural world using proven methods and an open mind. Once you do these things you will receive the absolute revelation of the real world, you will realize its truth wasnself evident all along, and you will be freed from the chains of superstition.
Christians are so absurd. Sorry but there are several billion people on the universe that to each of us will not be known. As you read this several lives have ended and you will never know about them, this will be true ever time you read this. But unless you have seen me before it will never be true of me, I have interact with you even if in a totally meaningless way it is infinitely more than God. This all from a person you did not know existed and is of no importance to your life at all who you will never even see and have no desire to. Now imagine who weird it is billions of people could not do that even though many spent decades trying and it is claimed I also want a personal relationship with you. I an absolute nobody beat a being of limitless power by a factor of infinity.
“When you analyze it metaphysically?!” 🤣
lmao, this joker. Has made more atheists than theists
Gary fled from Deconstruction Zone, like the coward he is.
Who?
@@bobby9192 Gary Milne aka Darth Dawkins
Doug smote him
@@Scythe1337 thanks dude
@@Scythe1337”Don’t say my name” he says
He's just recycling the old "God works in mysterious ways" dodge and thinks he's clever. Pathetic.
You have a great likeness to Dunning Kruger and that is objectively pathetic. Typical leftist, believes yourself to be so smart yet incredibly dumb.
Funniest ahit i heard this week. Thanks lmao
Hebrew mythology is just mythology and faith through ignorance is just ignorance.
Yes, the modern myth that everything came from essentially nothing is so Intelligent! Who cares if all practical demonstrations of life comes from like life, who needs to actually see the accepted conclusions anyway, right?
What's ignorant is believing that faith is optional. Atheists have faith but they won't admit it.
The Transitive Property is a fundamental principle in mathematics and logic that states:
If A=B, and B = C, then A = C.
In Logic, this property applies to relationships that are equivalence relations. It is a cornerstone in reasoning, mathematics, and formal logic.
The Transitive Property principle can actually be applied to form a counter argument against one of the most foundational, if not the most fundamental claims made by Darth Dawkins.
It actually can be used as a defeater to his personal worldview.
A) His claims and worldview.
Darth claims that his personal worldview is without contradictions.
Darth, referring to his "ultimate belief" said that "In order to reason at all, in order to question anything, there must be some ultimate belief about existence that is not subject to revision or falsification from which you reason about anything else." th-cam.com/video/fghlckf374c/w-d-xo.html
He stated, when asked "What is Logic", replied by saying (quote) "Actual logic would be the mind of God." th-cam.com/video/4CEFn5-F2pU/w-d-xo.html
He also stated that "God's mind is the Laws of Logic." th-cam.com/video/LORtMI0W_Vs/w-d-xo.html
Darths position is that he only argues and/or speaks from the Christian Worldview, and that his worldview is the only true worldview.
If this statement itself is true, then there should be no Logical errors, inconsistencies or fallacies in his statements and claims.
The previous two statements ("Actual logic would be the mind of God" and "God's mind is the Laws of Logic") are describing God's attrubutes and are referring to God's inherent essence. These statements are NOT the same as saying that the Laws of Logic are merely a "reflection" of God's mind - these statements are both "is-are" statements, they are referring to a relationship of equality.
In this case, Darth logically contradicts himself. Why?
B) The Logical fallacy:
Darth says that the biblical God is a concrete object. th-cam.com/video/5_bLmUdwZw0/w-d-xo.html
He says that if something is a concrete one, it is not an abstract one.
th-cam.com/video/jNx9lyo8wlk/w-d-xo.html
The problem here is that Darth also says that the Laws of Logic and/or Logic is an abstraction.
Based on the transitive property of equality, if the following conditions are true, then it would follow that:
A) God = a mind, and
B) God's mind = the Laws of Logic
Then
C) God = the Laws of Logic.
C) Darth's Claims Recapped:
God is a concrete being: This means God is not abstract but exists as a real, personal, and substantial entity.
The Laws of Logic are the mind of God: These statements equate the laws of logic with God's mind.
The Laws of Logic are abstractions: Abstractions are not concrete; they are conceptual, non-physical. They do not have an independent existence in the way concrete entities do.
From these statements: If God is concrete, and the Laws of Logic are the mind of God, but the Laws of Logic are abstractions, then his claims of equality in essence create a logical inconsistency.
D) The Contradiction:
The contradiction arises because the claim is that God is said to be concrete. The Laws of Logic are said to be abstract. Darth says that a concrete object is NOT an abstraction. Therefore, Darth is asserting that the same entity is both concrete and abstract.
This position is contradictory because concreteness and abstractness are mutually exclusive categories.
E) Why This Is a Defeater:
If Darth maintains all his original claims without modification, his position becomes internally inconsistent.
Concreteness and Abstractness cannot logically coexist in the same entity. This contradiction exposes the incoherence of his worldview, particularly since the claim is that his worldview is without contradiction and is the only true worldview.
Based on all of the above, since Darth himself said that a worldview is either true in its entirely or it is not entirely true, (th-cam.com/video/Q6o6PVwmv3U/w-d-xo.html) Darth's worldview, on it's own terms, contradicts itself and can therefore be dismissed as being the only true, coherent worldview. It is not necessary to provide multiple contradictions as a defeater, because to successfully demonstrate even one single contradiction is all that is necessary in order to falsify his claims about the coherence of his worldview.
lol Why are you so concerned about Darth content? Or adamant about responding to it? To the extent that you do! I understand his content attracts attention, but your extreme following of him is different... Just look at the name of your channel! LOL
@@ChessArmyCommander Lol I am aware of the name of my channel, and when I read your comment, it kinda made me laugh because I immediately thought of a scene from one of my favorite movies.
I don't know if you've even seen the movie called "A History of Violence" it's from 2005 and starred Viggo Mortensen. In one scene, his wife Edie finally learns the truth about "Tom Stall" her husband. She finds out that it's not his real name, and when she confronts him, and asks him why he picked that name "Tom Stall," he replied by saying, "It was available." lol
To answer your question, your question is actually more of a personal question, rather than something directly related to the video content I posted. But, even though it doesn't directly adress my video, I'll reply.
I am so adamant and motivated about replying to his content is because I decided about 5+ years ago that I wanted to take a stand against this fraudster. I do not hate him personally, but I do hate anyone who claims that they have some type of a philosophical, bullet-proof, nuclear-strength, unassailable package that is even beyond question metaphysically.
So, my motivation is to share the truth. I know I have the truth on my side. I want to share the good news with others. I'll close by saying that it's not rocket science. Any average kid has the capability to sniff out a skunk and determine that, in this specific case, not is all that it is claimed to be.
Thanks again, and by the way, I actually admire some of your comments you have posted during the years related to DD and his script.
@@DARTHDAWKINSDEBUNKEDTHEWEBSITE It's really simple though. DD's supermetaphysical intangible space alien ghost daddy in the sky can't even make a ham sandwich. Recently I've seen nutjobs telling me I will bend a knee to the figments of their imagination. Why would this "god who loves us" want to make people bend knees when he just can't magic people who are disabled into being able to walk, so that they can bend a knee? It's not just DD but everybody who engages dishonestly in magical thinking. They know they aren't going to bring a ghost around to speak on a microphone on their behalf. They know they aren't going to show up with anything supernatural at all. Instead, they want to word everything to death and try to convince. They've got nothing. And not only that, they know they've got nothing. That is the soft spot.
@@OceanusHeliosIt is simple. In a sentence, Gary's personal God exists because Gary has defined him into existence.
Only kids should believe in religion, when you grow and figure out what reality is you have to know better.
Jesus is Santa/Tooth Fairy/Easter Bunny for adults!
Darth states that the primary metaphysic must secure the uniformity of nature. The christian god violates the uniformity of nature, not secures it. God does not meet the necessary requirements that presups claim.
Also, presups like to use the SEP as a reference. The SEP article on metaphysics says that metaphysics may not exist. How can "that which is ultimate" be something that may not exist?
WWHHAATT 😂😂😂😂😂😂. I dont know so therefore im right brcause jesus, and i dont know where the bible came from.😂😂😂😂
Because you are not in the same league as Krause!!!
Why would he not want to be seen?
... he's shy?
😂😂😂😂😂😂 your mum shouldn't have ever given you those toy lead soldiers 😂😂😂
Gary is a sloppy thinker, having not thought through these concepts fully nor having a good grounding in philosophy or critical thinking skills, he is reasonably intelligent but relies on gobbledegook and the rooms where he always frequents with mod powers so he doesn't have to deal with anyone who can challenge him on a level playing field. He adopted presup to 'win' not to convert or because he actually believes in christianity. But it's not a real 'win', it's lazy and fallacious.
He's not sloppy, just arrogant in his unrighteous beliefs.
@@Austinole then why doesn't he learn or change, I've listened to him enough now to know that he is peddling the same rubbish. Granted he's refined some of his spiel a bit but it's still basically the same.
@waveman0 because he has a script.
@@Austinole agreed, but think about it: What are the underlying reasons he has to stick to the script and cannot deviate from it? Because he is a sloppy thinker and hasn't thought through the arguments very well.
@waveman0 ok
"We're in the midst of God's plan"
5 mins later
"Athiests choose not to believe and give god the double middle finger"
Which is it?? You're taking both sides when it's convenient and it's appalling.
The greatest joke of all is on Christians for thinking that Darth is a Christian he's actually an atheist trolling Christians
And you misrepresent the Athiest perspective, because you dont know if God has a plan, because you dont know if there is a god.
Cant have something from nothing
I am willing to bet that "he" will never show himself!!!
Darth Dawkins and all his little flying monkeys are the most clueless bunch I've ever had the displeasure of witnessing.
Perfect example of false Iinteligence with a good balance of deluding oneself.😊
If he was all powerful....why would he not show himself.?
That's not His plan?
Because he's shy.
God has given every person enough reason and enough evidence to believe that He exists. These reasons come through the Bible, but if a person never read the Bible then there is nature. It is logical to assume that life does not come from non-life so everything has a beginning. That is the first stop a person should come to.
If God reveals Himself right now in front of everybody, still many people would not seek God's forgiveness but would try to rationalise it through hallucination or some other mental gymnastics. In the end, no one will have excuse for their unbelief but will be judged based on the Gospel they rejected.
Everybody is called but not all are accepted. Today is the day of salvation.
I have no idea how I've ended up here... Why was this on my suggestion page..? 😮
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard, despite the fact that it makes perfect sense to Jethro here.
He's a joke. I don't understand how anybody can even take him remotely seriously.
Intellectual ineptitude
Oh man not this guy. He is the weirdest most intellectually dishonest person I’ve seen that does these debates
He's a grifter, avoid him. He thinks if you don't agree to his presuppositions then you are wrong and immoral. He's not arguing in good faith, he's doing it for the likes and attention from his fanbois.
Prove that there is god……
Once you prove it, we’ll believe as well. Otherwise, every time someone says that god exists, is like affirming something they don’t know, which is ludicrous and totally false.
The most consistent and logical explanation for the Christian God from a guy with a sandwich in his mouth who we know as our ultimate foundation of intuition and truth is complete BS! 😂
I listened to the begining of this, and this is so arrogant. How can any christian or believer take him seriously unless they are filled with hate?
Is this actually 2 real people talking? It sure sounds like a joke.
Asking if "we" could detect God if he hides himself smuggles in the presupposition that a human can make knowledge claims independent of God's revelation, which from the theistic worldview is irrational. I don't know that a "we" is possible without experiencing some aspect of God's revelation.
Every descendant of Abraham was made in God's image and granted the knowledge of Good and Evil. So how can Man know what we can or cannot know about God without his revelation? Therefore, the premise is internally inconsistent and unsound.
Also, an atheist should not answer "no" to whether we could detect God if he hides from us. I have no way of testing that. DD claims that God only exists in identity-and we can only know him if He reveals himself. So it's just the same defeater for DD every time . How do you know that God has revealed himself? You are forced to presuppose God to make it work, which is just special pleading. The same fool-proof defeater for every apologist.
God's existence is clear??? .....show us God....
2+2=4
2*2=4
@@BigSeanH 2^2=4
6*6*6 =216.
Therein is a great mystery, for those that have eyes to see
It os only in the COMPLETE ABSENCE of the Trinitarian God of the Bible, or any being of similar scope, that the observed and codified laws of logic, the observed and demonstrated consistency of nature over time and space, and humanities moral nature are intelligble as meaningful concepts. They do not require metaphysical grounding, and to ask for it is a self serving and futile gesture, as the only answers one can arrive at are either trivially true ie; stuff is stuff or based on the inferred existence of a creator diety that limits possibility and dispenses revalation to random people as a part of its bizarre and illogical practice of self worship.
In the presence of the Trinitarian God of Biblical Scripture, the violently abusive and jealous God of Abraham whose Son Jesus of Bethlehem comitted suicide by heracy using the Roman occupation as his weapon, nothing is grounded in any real way. An omnipotent being that created a vast universe for his amusement has the ability to change anything, anywhere, at any time. He could retcon reality and erase an hour, a day, a person, people, city, country, or planet, anything anywhere atbany time could not only cease to be, but never have been. Its nature is utterly inscrutable, its revelation differs from decade to decade, person to person, and its prophecies are the clear result of human invention.
Fortunately, you can find truth, you can live free from the mess that is religion and its self refuting worldviews.
Humble yourself before the majessty of the universe, the incredible evolved complexity of life, and the proven processes and methods used by people just like you to advance society from the dawn of humankind to its current state. Express contrition to your fellow humans for any falsehoods you spread as someone confused by theistic practices and lies, donate to secular charities to redress your support for corrupt churches and their leaders. Investigate the natural world using proven methods and an open mind. Once you do these things you will receive the absolute revelation of the real world, you will realize its truth wasnself evident all along, and you will be freed from the chains of superstition.
Christians are so absurd. Sorry but there are several billion people on the universe that to each of us will not be known. As you read this several lives have ended and you will never know about them, this will be true ever time you read this. But unless you have seen me before it will never be true of me, I have interact with you even if in a totally meaningless way it is infinitely more than God.
This all from a person you did not know existed and is of no importance to your life at all who you will never even see and have no desire to. Now imagine who weird it is billions of people could not do that even though many spent decades trying and it is claimed I also want a personal relationship with you. I an absolute nobody beat a being of limitless power by a factor of infinity.
L Christoids
Jesus fulfilled zero prophecies
Jesus is Temu Dionysus