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Today, I'm reacting to a video by @confusedavocado5787 where she talks about 9 reasons Australia is super weird compared to Vietnam. She covers a bunch of reasons Vietnamese people experience culture shock in Australia when they come Down Under.
Leave a comment below if you have any other Aussie culture shocks you've experienced in Australia.
Talking about us Aussies being cynical, I came across this gem a year or two ago:
A linguistics professor was lecturing his class the other day.
“In English,” he said, “a double negative forms a positive. However, in some languages, such as Russian, a double negative remains a negative. But there isn’t a single language, not one, in which a double positive can express a negative.”
A voice from the back of the room piped up, in a broad Aussie accent, “Yeah, right.”
😆 Beauty
It's the inflection 😂😂😂
Sure, yeah.
That’s gold. 😂😂
Nah,yeah.
Years ago, on a train in Sweden with a couple of Swedes we'd just met, my partner and I were admiring their multi-lingual talents, and they asked us what languages did we speak. Just English, we said, sadly. No, what language are you using between you? English, we insisted. They looked very puzzled and it took us a minute to realise that we were actually speaking Queensland-English between ourselves, and a more refined version of English for the Europeans. Our Aussie English was incomprehensible to the Swedes. That's the day I learned the truth about being an Aussie.
That you are actually multilingual too!
You do appear to realize that 'Queensland' is officially "different"1
My mate was working and living in Denmark for 10 years. The Danes spoke Textbook English. When my mate spoke, they said, excitedly "oh! what language is that!?" her: "English" Them: "I think you'll find it's not." She listened more acutely and realised that they were enunciating consonants and vowels distinctly - y'know that thing we don't do here (shwaring most of our vowels). Also tonally, Danish goes lower in places we go higher, so that added to the confusion.
@@Angatyr34 The danish are very snooty up themselves sorts of people. Ive never liked them.
@ Oh dear! Such perfectionism. What chance do us poor colonials have? 😀🧡
As an immigrant, I can speak from experience. I arrived in this country as a 14-year-old, more than 4 decades ago.
I started my first year of highschool a few short months after arriving, My very first day I remember hearing the other kids during roll-call when names were called. All I heard after teacher called a name was , .... 'heee', ..... 'heee', ...... etc... etc...., then my name is called, ..... heyaa muss' ... giggles spread across the class. ~ Who'd have thought my Sth.African accent was that amusing!
Straya!! ~ Wouldn't want to live anywhere else. ~ I'm proud to call myself an _'Aussie'_ , .... ya gotta love this country.
Most Aussies understand that "Owsitgoin mate?" is not an invitation to tell your life story. The correct response is "Yeah good, yerself?" to which the True Blue will just grunt and say "good ta hear it, doing alright my self." Conversation done, comfort zone established. Even if the sky is falling, it is no more than, "can't complain..." "been worse." "Don't ask, I might just tell ya!"
Possible response: "aw yeh, livin' the dream"(translation: my life is falling apart and/or I hate my job but that's my own issue) lol
@stephe1506 "Living the dream" is the standard response at work when anyone asks how you're doing.
That's the same with americans.
An american i used to play with in a videogame asked me how was your day and i started telling him about my day, he was so comfused and that day I learned that those questiins are insincere, i dont even know why anglophones bother to ask things like that if they dont want an answer.
@@MahaviraReborn Mate, we are interested if you want to tell us, we'll listen. If you are just whinging, we'll tell you that. If you truly need a shoulder to lean on, or cry on, we'll provide that also. What we really doing is making sure that people ARE alright, and I guess the response has arisen from not being reliant on others, so we just shrug and move on. IF a person does want to talk, we are generally up for a chinwag. It is not insincere in the least. We truly care for the answer. If someone says "Up the shit" we know it is time to sit up and pay attention because old mate is at his limits.
I have a Chinese friend who loves the Australian way of speaking. Her favourite saying is “yeh, nah”
@jazzycool2950 I just married my Philippina wife, yeah.....nah is her favourite thing to say to her family.
I have a shirt with two narwhals In a Ying Yang shape that says yeah nah at the top and nah yeah at the bottom. It's one of my favourites
Yeah, message received, Nah= no to ur message.
Your comments about her comments are good.
A work mate (in the 80's) told me about a conversation he had with a young Japanese tour guide. She approached him while waiting for a bus in Cairns, she explained that Japanese were hearing that Australians thought them rude and they understood it was about queuing.
We often don't quite queue but stand around. Ken said that he had a think, and realised that we just observe who is waiting when we turn up, and know that they are in front of us. The guide was grateful for the explanation, and Ken was happy that he had managed to explain something that he had never thought about.
The bus drivers in my area are really friendly as are the passengers (pedestrians and bus drivers will even wave to each other when passing) and the drivers will wait until passengers are seated before driving off. Always say thank you when getting off the bus, kindness is free :)
My beautiful Mother always said "thank you driver" when we got off the bus or out of a cab.
they dont always wait for you to be seated its only for womena nd elderly nd mothers - i bashed my face into plexiglass once coz of reckless driver. but they good for the most part.
Sounds like, Newy!
@@TrekkingWithJessSounds like the Kingsgrove Depot Legends in Sydney. ❤
I am a bus driver... and I do drive close to Brisbane, Ipswich, and she did hit the nail on the head, we do appreciate people thanking us and being kind passengers, we get a lot of crap from people too, but I love the way they catch the bus in Vietnam, sadly our doors have a connection with our brakes where if the door is open the bus cant move lol, We try not to be late but for road safety we dont get penalised if we are late within reason.. letting people on safely is a reason, I radio in saying "I am 10 minutes down due to heavy loading" so from my perspective its a high level of responsibility and I take safety very seriously.. but its quite relaxing if everything is running smoothly.
My parents lived in Inverell, and my father always complained that it took mum two hours to do a half-hour shop. She couldn't walk ten steps without someone stopping to talk to her. I often start up conversations with strangers wherever I sit for a few minutes, then an hour later........
Brisbane people are that friendly and sincere. It's refreshing.
including Dami Im.
Tasmania is very friendly especially in the service industries
Unfortunately more and more people from Sydney are migrating up this way and bringing their attitudes.
I love Straya ! They have an amazing culture ,cuisines,people and what not ! I'm from India and i learnt some Aussie slang and accent , cause my dream place is Straya ! ( I hope you would make a video of the most funniest and weirdest cultural shocks for indians about Straya ) LOTS OF LOVE FROM INDIA ! ❤❤❤
Bruva! the fact u called it "STRAYA" awwwweee u r already one of us!!!
Watch the series "Speaking Australians" which was made between Australia and Mumbai with Indian actors, it's hilarious
I'm an Aussie who loves India. I hope to visit again soon.
@@brettwood6721 hehehe😁
lol… it’s so true. I know pretty much everyone at my local shops and cafe. So it’s not just going to the shops. It’s a catch up with friends. This young lady has fantastic English. I can understand how hard it would have been for her to learn.
50 yrs ago, probably a quarter million Vietnamese came here. Over time, the Aussie Viets have integrated linguistically rather well. I am used to smiling chatty Vietnamese men and women in the food industry, especially bakeries.
The best man at my wedding was a Vietnamese refugee. He's built a great life here and is now a business owner. A great guy.
Let's get them involved in Australian sports more! AFL, NRL, ect.
I moved to a small provincial town in the Philippines a coupla years ago.
Filipinos are known for speaking English quite well, even riders of tricycles that you can ride in, like a short distance taxi.
But sometimes I get embarrased looks when trying to ask for information, but
it's usually due to shyness.
Yes, there's one such bakery in my hometown, my mother can't seem to grasp that it's not actually called "The Vietnamese Bakery." it's just that the staff who run it are Vietnamese.
@@Aurochhunter haha, there's an amazing bakery in North Avalon (sydney) and we call it the vietnamese bakery (it does have a real name, which I forget). it's the BEST.
She's picked up the whinge about Australian weather extremely quickly. Fits right in with the rest of us! When in doubt, complain about the weather.
That's probably from being an ex-British colony. It's a safe play over here in NZ
We imported that from Britain. Although the discussions will be very different. Basically, the weather is different. Too hot.
@@duncanmcnabb1951Vietnam was a French colony, hence the awesome bread and coffee.
We still don't do whinging about the weather anywhere near as well as the Poms.
@ that must be us then 😅
When I was younger, all shops would close at 12:00 on Saturday, completely closed on Sunday, not even the big supermarket chains, all shops were closed on every public holiday.
At least in rural Victoria even petrol station would be closed on Sunday after 12:00.
The original 7/11s were called that as they would be open from 07:00AM to 11:00 PM, and they didn’t sell petrol.
Showing your age big fella...😀😃😄🇦🇺
Yes, the mad dash Saturday morning to get your shopping done.
Or when the supermarkets introduced late night shopping. Once a week on Thursday till nine pm.
Hehe, I'm an Australian living in Korea, many years now, and I'm with her! Australian shopping hours are REALLY inconvenient. As for small talk...yeah...Asian countries don't do it until they're gotten to know you over a long time. Korean people do it when they know you, but that happens fairly fast if you maintain a happy friendly atmosphere with a smile. Everything she said is similar in South Korea - toilet paper too, although that is fast disappearing now - mostly only country towns require separation of toilet paper these days, and even there it's mostly flush (you can tell by the age of the toilet and there are usually signs, in Korean on the back of the door with instructions). The thanking of people is also probably strange too. As an Australian, I always do it, and some Korean people I've met really like that and copy that from me. Also the opening of doors for others is a very Australian thing. People don't do it in Korea, but Korean people like my way of doing that, which is quite automatic, of course, and they copy that particular trait from me.
We are usually fairly laid back here in the suburbs of Brissie but in the middle of the city it can get a bit hectic, and most of us have our headphones on when waiting to catch the bus. But we still queue and smile and say thanks to the bus driver if we can. As for working in the cafes, it depends. If there's plenty of room for others to sit and have their coffee, then go for it, but if not try the council libraries
The council Libraries in Brisbane are great. It's hard to describe but the libraries are more than libraries.
I'm a retired bus driver, and yes thank them. But don't talk to them while they're driving.
Always say thank you. Funnily enough only 1 in about 10 drivers will acknowledge it but I keep on keeping on...
Always!
@@rorybayliss7252 I don't bother thanking in the afternoon because they're always grumpy and coudn't care less.
Unless the driver chats to you first (I was pretty close with some of the drivers for the busses that took us from Canberra - murrumbateman /surrounding areas)
Used to sit up the front pretty often to just have a good convo
@ abssolutely
As an Australian, I hate the small talk, but it gets worse when they say, "Oh, would you like a copy of a free magazine, it's called 'Watch Tower.'
Rando's knocking on my door with that magazine get my goat
Grew up Catholic. I’ll tell them what the bible says
Small talk with the police?😊
@ Oh, for that you always start with, "Hello officer, how are you?" Takes the edge off and is way better than, "No, I'm not C#nt Druncstable."
Never talk to the cops. They can legally lie to you & are taught that we are their enemy & will try to get you for any small thing. Do you feel comfortable with a cop car behind you though you know you're not doing anything wrong. Ofcoase you don't because you know you can't trust them. I have cops in my family that we don't invite to family get togethers, had friends become cops then turn into A-holes that we all told to stop calling.
I'm glad she has had a good experience of Brissie, makes me proud of my fellow Brisbanites
Indeed. She sounds like she is a Southsider.
I was from Brisbane, then the Gold Coast, now Gladstone, I think out of all of them, Gladstone is the most friendly. Probably because it is smaller. Gladstone is a small regional city in Queensland. It's smaller than Rockhampton, yet larger than Warwick. we are very much an industrial regional city. Lots of people from all over the world come here to work. But it's still small enough to have friendly chatty people.
Great point about the multiple native speakers situation. I was trying to learn Mandarin, and I had 3 Mandarin speaking coworkers in my team. One was from Beijing, one from Hong Kong, one from Malaysia. Just due to their individual accents, and the tonality of Mandarin, I had such a difficult time.
18:50 never encountered this in Melbourne, and in my favourite local coffee place the owner directly told me that I shouldn't worry and that I am encouraged to stay as long as I need to and do my work there. (But they also have quite a bit of space.)
Growing up in NSW I got a shock moving to QLD how friendly everyone was. It was like avoid eye contact in NSW and then in QLD everyone says hello.
Yeah I concur. I lived in Sydney for 6 months and people were way ruder, sometimes incredibly rude despite me not even doing anything. And the culture there is way more hustle and bustle. But in Melbourne people are more chill despite also being quite a busy city, so it's quite interesting.
Now did you live in Sydney Newcastle or Wollongong? Cos they're different to the rest of us, we wanna blow the Mooney and use the Hawkesbury as a hard border, to contain Sydney. Rural NSW is still pretty friendly. You can spot the urban scum colonisers by how they interact with others. Like I had some yuppie complain that she moved to boganville and couldn't wait for the locals that built up our town are priced westwards off the lake and into the outback. Trust me, we hate Sydneysiders with a passion.
I’m in Sydney and most people are friendly. The only place i find people standoffish is in Uber Pool cabs. It’s quite weird, we’re in a small car together for a short ride and they don’t even say “Hello”. No communication! They are often looking at a phone, I am too, maybe messaging the person I’m meeting, but can still greet people around me.
We don’t need to know each others business or even names, just a friendly acknowledgment would be nice!
I think young Aussies should learn this trait and I sometimes find myself greeting them directly to embarrass them for a response! I’m afraid I don’t care if it’s seen as rude, it’s keeping up the old courtesies.
i hear you. sadly smart phones and socials take presedence over positive natural human interaction today. also young ppl as a reasult have a tonne of anxiety specific to making friends. its evident that they dont know the first thing about it.
@ It’s not even a case of making friends, I’m thinking of easy chat that “makes the day go round!”
I’m glad I mostly worked face to face with the public, it was normal to always connect with people, so no barriers or anxiety for me.
So true!
My experience on a bushwalk just west of Sydney really highlighted some really noticeable generational differences. It went something like this.
Every few minutes some people came the other way on the trail, passing us. Older people, say above 60s, greeted us before we had a chance to do so and started a short friendly chat, you know just about the weather or commenting on something. The 50 to 60 group also said hello but didn't go any further, unless we started something. The 30 to 40 age group would say hello but only if we did that first. The 20s age group would give an acknowledging grunt in exchange for a "Hi!" The teens wouldn't say anything, just look at you as if you were weird if you greet somebody you don't know. This experience was surprisingly consistent.
I think newer generations are getting less polite and friendly to people they don't know. They change a bit as they get older but in my experience, that 's the trend and those behavioral traits seems to be slowly shifting to older and older people.
She is developing an Aussie accent.
YES!
More like forcing it. A lot of them need to learn to pronounce words properly first before trying so hard to force Aussie, American or British accents.
As I've gotten older I am more open to casual chat, I think it's because I'm not hungover as much as when I was young.
I have found |Vietnamese people so relaxed and friendly, which stands out compared to a lot of other immigrants who not so much.
While travelling in Vietnam, I found that there are strong similarities to Australian attitudes. Work for a living, not living to work.
I'm from Melbourne. Since the 70s my area has had a huge Vietnamese community because we had a refugee centre and all the kids went to our local schools. Pho is as common as meat pies round here...
About opening hours for shops, I arrived in Melbourne in 1981 and back then, shopping centres (SOME OF THEM) were open late on Friday nights (9:00PM) and SOME were open on Saturday, from 9 til Noon. From midday Saturday, until 9 on Monday morning, the only shops open would be Milkbars and 7/11's. This changed over time, to the point where shops are open seven days a week. At least in Melbourne. About ten years back I was in WA and found out that shops shut at 5 or 5:30 and they didn't have 7/11's. Felt like a whole different country.
17:10 Bus drivers are heroes: theyhave to deal with idiots on the road, idiot customers, idiot managers, and politicians who don't appreciate the service they provide because they have their own personal drivers.
I have mad respect for my local bus drivers because they relieve me of dealing with idiots on the road and paying stealth taxes.
Back in the early 70s, I was a tram conductor and yes you did get regulars who you greet and be greeted by, if they were walking past the tram and they saw you they would give you a wave.
Cheers.
Brisbane is much friendlier than Sydney.
It's more relaxed and laidback. Sydney has gotten to be a more stressed out environment, no matter where you are.
Everyone in Sydney is flat out going nowhere but as fast as possible. Mind u, if u stop, someone will charge u rent or a parking fee.
I currently live in Perth on sundays large shops are only allowed to open from 11am to 5pm in Melbourne where I’m from large supermarkets a generally open from 6am till midnight and some areas are 24 hours
Big supermarkets are generally opened from 8 am to 9 pm on weekdays (that's plenty of time to shop), 8 am to 5 pm on Saturdays, and 11 am to 5 pm on Sundays. Perth also has a number of 24 hour IGAs and Spudsheds (a local supermarket chain), meaning that if I really needed to go shopping for groceries, I could do it any time of any day. There are 3 IGAs open 24/7 within 15 minutes drive of me and several Spudsheds.
WA really does stand for Wait Awhile ;)
That's so quaint😂 @@thevannmann
I have been to Vietnam on holiday, and I was surprised by how welcoming hospitality and hotel staff were - they really made it a enjoyable experience, On the other hand the obvious street scammers had to be avoided too.
17:28 Honestly I've always been in awe of busdrivers. They pilot a vehicle the size of a small building through winding city streets, thats FULL of people. I cannot imagine how stressed I would be doing that!
If cappuccinos are $10 bucks, I'm opening a coffee table on my driveway.
That's a rip off.
@@Rose-jz6ix It's the local experience.
I love my small talks with random strangers. I’ve had some great chats on the train with strangers. I’m Aussie with Vietnamese wife.
I downloaded about my relationship issues to a young guy who tried engaging with me to sign up to donating to a charity outside my local supermarket. My husband and I just had an argument before I left to go. Didn’t sign up to the charity, got a free counselling session. Win/win for me.
Great video mate, really liked it
The shops closing that early is different in different places. I live in a country town and our local supermarkets close at 10pm.
Yeah, that's pretty much my experience in various parts of the country. At the very least closing by 5-6pm would be quite unusual for supermarkets nowadays.
17:33 It’s funny because I recently went back to VN after 5 years and got a culture shock because the malls do not open before 10:00 on weekdays. We were on holiday but the kids still woke up at 7-8 and after breakfast, we had to wait for the malls to open. On the other hand, when we slept in at the weekend, my cousins called us pretty early because the malls open from 9:00 😅
I have a Persian background. In 2023 my cousin from Denver, Colorado was visiting Sydney with her American husband. First thing she said to me was: What is it with this "reckoning" talk? I reckon it's Australian.
People in many countries did not use toilet paper at all. When they started to use it, the plumbing system was not designed for it and it had to be put in separate receptacle. In Australia we have quite a problem in big cities with all the deposits in addition to toilet paper - “flushable” wipes, tissues, hand towel and other. This creates huge aggregations in the sewers that have to be unblocked.
13:20 she wasn't talking about dire health issues but specialists. Most specialist won't take an appointment unless you have a referral from your gp.
7:40 YES! There's an inner west accent that's "fast and clipped" that I occasionally slip into that's not part of my ethnicity but totally part of my area [that I grew up and live in].
Ab hour ago my husband literally asked me how a comedy show was. My response, “it was ok” 😂😂😂
hahaha did it suck?
On slang: in a communal kitchen on a university campus a Chinese student was asking permission to borrow some kitchen gear….
(In perfect non accent BBC english) “Good evening, may I please borrow your kitchen knife?”
(Me, broadAussieaccentdeliveredinananosecond) gofyalife (ie go for your life)
The look of horror on her face as she believed I had said that I would carry out violence if she attempted to use said item….but I did pick up her freezing in terror, the shock on the face, the stare of please don’t hurt me….
We then entered into about 10 minutes of dialogue where we apologised for our linguistic short comings, and finally she got to borrow the knife
If you are teaching english to students coming to Oz, please teach them something about slang & its prevalence.
Maybe gofyalife should be in the phrase books too.
When you think you want to get off your antidepressants is when you should think that they are working. You really need to be in a good place to come off them safely
On the subject of cafes, if it's a quiet café, they love it if you take your time. Because the more people sitting in the café. Better books for them.
That's a really good point, actually!
@AussieEnglishPodcast thank you 😊
17:57 Yeah, but it's not every day and 9:00 PM is still pretty early considering a lot of people work from 9 AM to 5 PM, so you can't really go anywhere unless it is on a weekend
The best way to understand Australians is to think of each state as a different country, we each have a different language and different idiosyncrasies.
I am South Australian and we aren't as outgoing as other Australians, we are a bit more conservative and for some reason, we often add an extra r to words.
Australians have been influenced by both Britain and America but we are slowly gaining traits from other cultures as the diversity of our population grows.
I have always believed that food is the great equaliser and a great way to incorporate different cultures into this strange place called Australia.
When I get that 'question do you speak any other language at home', or 'do you speak any other language' I sometimes respond with Aussie or Australian.
I'm Australian and HATE small talk, but I have professionally-diagnosed social anxiety, so....
I do not really care, I talk if I want too!
I always thought the nickname was brissie ites
All depends on your definition of friendliness. Compared to other countries, we are either too friendly or not friendly at all.
Short story: went back to my country after a life in Canberra. When up and about I would say hello and make small talk to anybody. My sister would beg me not to embarrassed her, which left me confused as I am Latina.
😄Good day from Goonellabah, NSW, Australia. I went to the pool, which is 2 kilometres away. Travelling 2 kilometres on my electric scooter, which is 12 k/hr, took 25 minutes. Small talk is the reason I took 25 minutes.
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The guy in charge of the first refugee boat from Vietnam is/was connected to the fast food joint at wollongbar. I met his wife and daughter there about 2001.
As an introvert, learning to make small talk wasn't an easy thing for me as an Australian. But people expect it, so you have to do it. Getting a customer service job is the best way to do it tho, so she went about it the right way.
Supermarkets in Tassie are open until 9pm.
why is that
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 They just are. Doesn't seem to be any reason.
@@sammidee4713 fair enuf. do you have thursday late night shopping down there?
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 Not in the supermarkets, every night is late, not sure if the supermarkets close earlier on Sundays though. However in general, shops if small enough will close at 5'ish. If they are in a shopping mall they will close when the mall closes, or if they are a shop that have no need to be open till nine eg. a lunch bar, they might close much earlier. Basically I rarely go shopping at night as I hate driving at night. Those new headlights are are accident waiting to happen.
Mate, you're helping me like Australian culture again. Cheers.
Very good episode! I'm missing Australia. Hope come back soon.
I got culture shock just going from Adelaide to Melbourne haha especially with the shop hours thing. Though it was more of a positive to find I could go to the super market until midnight. One night I was feeling sick and talking to my Mum on the phone saying I'd go to the shops for some tomato soup and vegemite (staples for a sick tummy!) and she was asking "where are you going to get that at 10pm on a Sunday??" For that one it was more of an adjustment moving back to Adelaide and getting used to everything closing so early.
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Apart from a handful of inner suburban supermarkets and lack-lustre (in)convenience stores, EVERYTHING retail in Australia closes stupidly early, and maybe it’s just me but I closing time seems to be getting earlier each year. If you’re planning to eat out in Melbourne you better go early, because most restaurants - in the heart of the city on a Friday night in Summer -are closing the door at 9pm, before it’s even got dark! Australia doesn’t have a nightlife, we have a late arvo/ early evening life, after that it’s home to bed. Might there be some Aussie English that explains this phenomenon? Yeah, we’ve turned into a bunch of wowsers.
The Vietnamese in Australia are the fastest refugee community to jump from poverty to success and wealth that Australia has ever had!
I can vouch for that from my friendship and professional interaction with them.
Examples are my female doctor, and professional managers, section heads and so on in government.
They were young kids and even babies, who fled Vietnam on overloaded sampans who faced the threat of deadly and cruel pirates who not only stole belongings but also young girls!!
You would remember the TV series Patrol Boat from the 80s I would think then? Often had episodes of overloaded sampans.... 😀
@kramrollin69 : They were real. My brother-in-law was in the navy then and heard his share of horror stories told by some of the refugees.
@ Yes, that was my point thanks, Patrol Boat was very realistic. Great ABC program.
i believe the lining up and waiting to get on the bus, would go back to school days for us Aussies tbh, coz if you pushed in, you were sent to the very back of the line, so you learnt pretty quickly not to push in.
Australians overall are still reasonably friendly. I watched an American vlog recently and they said Australians were still as friendly as Americans use to be in the mid to late '90s. I'd take that as a compliment. Sydney is in a league all of its own. There just seem to be more irritable, condescending and cranky people there, than Melbourne & Brisbane combined. Drivers in Sydney are allegedly the most aggressive in Australia. Road rage is more common there than other Australian cities. That said not everyone in Sydney fits that stereotype. Also ALL big crowded cities tend to be more in a rush and self centred with no time for any small talk. Toronto and London are not the friendliest cities in Canada or the UK, but friendly people do exist in both those cities.
@ChristopherJewels... I live in Sydney & what you say is totally true. There is a problem with certain cultures that push in ....won't que...& the sayin "they think they own the road" applies to all the CRAZY DRIVER'S here.... not many respect the road rules ..sadly...
This Sydney sider ALWAYS has time for small talk. I just cant help it. If something interesting, cute or whatever is happening around me, in a lift, a shop queue (or pretty much any queue), at the nearby table in the coffee shop, I end up in a chat. (I am now a coffee friend of a number of former strangers.) I just find people interesting, and the impromptu interaction of strangers is so often a warm few seconds that makes a day that much better.
@@JB-zs1oq Don't change a thing. Sydney needs more people like you!
The small talk tradition is easy to explain when you consider our historical situation. In the bush, if you came across another European human being you didn't just have a chat, you pulled up and camped together for the night as the next opportunity to "chat" would likely be more than a week. Even today in the bush, passing vehicles wave. It's more or less saying "yep we're all good, no need to stop". Even if you look at my living situation on a rural property, my nearest neighbour's house is at least 500 meters away, the next closest is more like 1 km, and we make sure we all know each other. The ambulance is about 45 minutes away. If we have a fire, medical emergency we all know that we'll drop what we're doing at a moment's notice if called. Let's just say Karma is very much alive and understood out here.
I started thanking bus drivers in Adelaide in the early 1980s. I was influenced by Japan and Japanese manners. I used public transport a lot - so I kind of think that I did influence others, well, maybe a little. I also always stay on the left hand side of escalators - another influence from my travels in Japan. More and more people seem to be doing it in Adelaide. I appreciate friendliness in cafes, bars and restaurants - like many of my compatriots.
Ummm No, wev'e been doing it forever. Its called being polite and respectful. OR perhaps its just the cultured Adelaide way.......🤓
Understandably if she lives in Queensland she would run into really warm and chatty people whereas down here in SA it's usually a smile and a nod with a very short how are you. Maybe it's also an age and gender thing. she is a young lady and sometimes people just feel like chatting with young ladies I guess. I'm not a very social person so to avoid the checkout smalltalks at shops I'll usually grab the self serve or just go to aldi.
I suffer from social anxiety and rarely leave home. I use the checkout people as my chance to talk. A hello 🤗 and thanks for your service is enough for me. Over time the cashiers know me and respect my not talking at all or being chatty.
Yeah, I'm the opposite when it comes to shopping. I actually LIKE other people. Generally speaking. I live in Melbourne and although I'm also happy with a smile and a nod and maybe a thanks, or cheers thrown in, I RESENT the supermarkets removing the element of human interaction so they can swell their already obscene profits by putting more Aussie battlers out of work! I REFUSE to use automatic checkouts and I've left full shopping trolleys and walked out when there's no-one at any register. They can putt the bloody stuff back on the shelves themselves. I don't get paid to work at the place. I expect them to pay somebody else to be a checkout person.
I shop at ALDI, but I will wait at the end of a long line of people rather than use the automatic checkout crap that will one day enslave us all because of people who don't actually like their fellow human beings. If you don't like being chatty, that's one thing, but the provision of automatic checkouts has NOTHING to do with customer service! It's to get rid of employees so the top dogs can get even higher salaries! It's also all about installing invasive cameras everywhere, that monitor your every move and you expressions, etc, so that WHEN they decide to become the nightmare world of 1984, Big Brother will have been watching you for quite a while and you won't even notice. In fact, you will not notice until the day that something you do or say will bring a visit from ThinkPol agents, who will arrest you and take you off to face whatever punishment is appropriate. There will be no lawyers, judges, or courtroom, there will just be the consequences of your actions and the punishment decreed by the government. Like our social media platforms, you probably won't even be told EXACTLY what your crime was. You'll just be told you're guilty and they have the video footage to prove it. I have voiced my objection to supermarkets taking video footage of me without so much as a; 'by your leave', and whilst I understand the shops stealing prevention side of things, The whole surveillance thing is now beyond sinister.
@BigAl53750 you should come to Adelaide. The aldis here don't have self serve checkouts. Staff are not very chatty so it's usually hi how are you cash or card would you like a catalogue thanks bye. At colesworths or foodland you might run into checkout staff chatting with customers non stop but it really depends on whether the customer is feeling chatty. I agree this is the best part about human interaction at checkouts. If people feel like chatting, staff will happily engage. For those experiencing social isolation of some sort this may be the only moment in an entire week when they get to talk to someone. If people don't want to chat, staff cotton on to that and wouldn't push further than a hi thanks bye. Machine can't read us like this. Only we can read our own kind,
Australians who have 'English' as their 'first language' are divided into two groups. One speaks actual 'English' and the other speaks 'Early School Leaver'.
Remember: English is what is spoke. The rules are only guidelines.
😂 so true!
Steve Irwin was from melbourne originally, but somehow he really embraced the rural Qld accent even though he grew up basically on the Sunny coast.
That type of accent is being diagnosed wrongly. It has little to do with a region, much to do with social background and experience.
Often, there are different accents within a family.
@@BasilPunton Crikey...ya reckon mate?
Oh bugger me, so he was, in Upper FTG. Never knew that.
Around 20yrs ago, in high school, in care class/home group etc, whatever you want to call it, but it was care class or home group, but we had a Japanese exchange student, she was quite shy and quiet, when we interacted with her her voice was so soft, was like clouds IMO, I'm not sure what the culture shock was like for her, but for many of us it was interesting and seeing how she was reading right to left rather than how we read left to right... then about 2005/2006 we had an American exchange student and that was pre cool, like the Japanese exchange student, we learnt a lot from them and I think they learnt from us too... always interesting...
The great unspoken by Australians is travel. Travelling is equated to (informal) education. So, those that headline their experiences with ‘culture shock’ are quietly assumed by many Aussies to be uneducated. Travel is a rite of passage for many Aussies, who begin to take various World cultural experiences in their stride, so it can be wearying having inexperience described as ‘culture shock’.
If you've traveled with people from China or India, you might've noticed they're not too fussed about waiting in line whether it’s at concerts or customs checkpoints.
I'm Canadian and I love small talk with strangers, absolutely love it.
I've been to Ecuador twice and you cannot flush anything but the natural substances expected from certain areas LOL. It's because their sewage systems are so old and were not designed for paper etc. They are trying to avoid 'traffic jams' :)
I kinda wish I get to do small talk more in Perth. My mental mechanism is very similar to Confused Avocado atm and I want to try to improve my sociability by chatting to people but I am afraid people don't want to talk to me at all. That being said, I "can" be social be people but it usually only comes up when I am at work and I am talking to customers/clients. I think it's because my mind prefers to have the "barrier" that comes with the job (or is it more of a pass key?) that basically tells who I am talking to that I am allowed to talk to people because it's part of my job
Also, misconception that the Americano is the same as a Long Black. It's not... Or at least it isn't supposed to be. The Long Black is supposed to be 2 shots of Espresso/Short Black (or a Double Espresso) with added water, while the Americano is just 1 shot
I haven't been "taught" the culture about saying thanks to the driver, and I am pretty sure only half, if even, the passengers thank the driver. I do say it, mostly because I feel better saying thanks.
Also, haven't seen the thing about staying in cafes for hours doing and irritating the cafe workers/managers/owners here in Perth
Yet, we are now into our third generation of Vietnamese Australians, who have been coming here since the fall of South Vietnam. In spite of some resistance to them at first, they seem to have fitted in quite well.
Mate I had a girl fiend from Indonesia, also Vietnamese..I took her home to meet the family. I’m from Queensland. She spent every night looking up in the paddock
This vid is 100% spot on.
I've been living in WA for 10+ years now but I still have hard time to get into the small talk on every occassion.
I got used to do it at work, gym or other activities, but on public transport it always takes me by surprise.
Also I have noticed that we are getting more and more closed as a society compared to a decade ago and my visits to australia 30 and 40y ago. People definitely are no longer as open and friendly as they were in 1990s.
I'm pretty sure that I heard somewhere that the pipes are just smaller in other places than ours are.
The word 'ok' can mean good or bad depending on voice inflection and mannerism.
I'm on the autistic spectrum, and sometimes I'm ill, or deeply in thought, and mat even have been annoyed at small talk. Now, I annoy people with BIG talk - to much for many to handle.
We're still really in 'lockdown' mentally. The first thing is to nod at someone, and a little talk may reassure them you're not a sociopathic killer. I can keep it boringly plain, but you actually may find something other people would like to talk about and they're happy they get heard.
I once had a Vietnamese uni student who put Vietnamese living in Australia into two categories:
!. Traditional Vietnamese,
2. Australian Vietnamese.
The latter is now starting to significantly outnumber the former.
When you run a family stall where no one gets a proper wage and there is little regulation stores will stay open as long as they can.
Our regulated system means because people need to be paid, they will shut down, because even the owner doesn't want to be there 24/7.
We have some smaller supermarkets in Perth that are open 24/7, usually mid size IGAs, (typically more expensive) and Spud Sheds, though the Spud Sheds aren't expensive some of the "fresh" fruit and vegetables are that close to being on the turn many SE Asian shoppers might feel at home.
Every Vietnamese person I've met has been a friendly, amicable sort.
Imgo about 8:30 the reckoning bit. So I’m an ex soldier..we once had an officer tell our unit “Their was to be a reckoning” it’s all we sed for week solid. “ Do ya recon, Corporal? Yep I recon…do you reckon?..well Lumpy recons, hay Lumpy?” For a week.
Laughed me guts out…lmgo
Brissie IS very familiar! Quite normal for a stranger just to start chatting with some random.
Small talk is a social lubricant so to speak. It also shows some respect for service staff in that you don't just treat them like a machine.
I love the Aussie version that goes like "Vietmanese", classic. The same uneducated ususlly also say "Basghetti". Gotta love 'em.
I found Queenslanders love Small talk more than people from Sydney or Melbourne. She is probably absolutely right from her Brisbane-centered experience, but is totally different in Sydney and Melbourne. I know, because I love small talk and living in Sydney, sometimes I get weird looks from people when I ask, "How are you" or things like that.
Years ago, when traveling regularly on suburban trains and trams in Melbourne, I only had a stranger start up a start up a conversation with me twice. Both were Kiwis.
I'm Australian and I am not a pessimist, but I'm pretty sure that won't last
The biggest difference with the Aussie English is that we don’t breathe or break between words. All our sentences blur words in quick torrent of conversation. My German relatives when they visited even though they spoke English well had no idea what we were saying until we learnt to talk slower and break between words!
I love small talk with randoms. It's very common in Melbourne, at least the areas I've lived in Melbourne, it's a big place so it could vary suburb to suburb.
I was born and raised in Adelaide i have lived in QLD for 25 years they still ask where i am from in England ....
Mate< I have great chats with foreign customers. I usually get a good conversation from them. I love the fact that Australia is very multiculturalist, males things interesting. And yes, we are usually a very social bunch us Aussies!!!
Good ol Males things, Wriggy!
Yeah, we're not like we used to be.. but I had Vietnamese neighbours and their sense of humour fits in with ours!
Funny buggas, dont mind a whinge (not Pommy levels) got on like a burning house!
The shortening thing only has one problem. What do you do, for example, with a very short name? My brother's name is Ian, so apart from his wife, everyone else calls him Fred. My other favourite is a redheaded bloke is called Blue.
The royal flying dr guys got really offended with me the other day in front of the supermarket when I explained that I already donate in gratitude for them coming to get my mother when she had a heart attack on her farm in far north Queensland. I'm now very sure there's a good commission.
You can go straight to the psychiatrist if you want to... But that wont be covered by medicare and why pay if you don't have to?
The toilet paper is just an infrastructure thing. We're a very young country that was designed with modern living in mind so we've got big pipes and no lead and you can drink from the taps etc
I'm Australian and I think Australia is wierd sometimes but seen as though I'm wierd to begin with I fit right in 😂