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- You want to know how is the normal day-to-day experience of a EUC vs Scooter or Electric Scooter if you want? In this video, I show you many situations where one of these 2 personal electric vehicles completely destroys the other PEV.
EUC VS Electric Scooter? Which one do you think is the real winner? Have you had the chance to ride EUC and Electric Scooter (e Scooter)?
Hope that you enjoy the EUC VS Scooter Battle between 2 PEVs that cost around $1000.
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I've used both and go to the super market on my Electric scooter, why would I fold it to go in? ... I just go in and walk around with it, I have a reusable bag which I put in one handle and makes it much easier to not have to carry that weight, the scooter does it for me, so +1 vs unicycle for me ... also point #2 stars, I once again don't fold mine and go down I just go down walking it and continue once I'm down. Sure EUC at this price point would be a bit faster than what you can get, but I've been riding EUC for years and recently got into electric scooters, I much prefer E Scooters now for real world use. EUC were more of a hobby but never actual personal transportation for me. my 2c as an avid user of both.
By the way which euc do you own?!
EDIT a year later after 8 EUCs, a Mantis 10 V2, E-skate (Tynee Stinger on 105 cloud wheels), and a OneWheel XR (sold).
The below was me trying (unsuccessfully) to talk myself out of getting an EUC, ignore it as mostly rubbish, EUC is the best. Got other PEVs just so I could appreciate how much better EUC is, which was my 1st PEV :) Only reservations about EUC is strong crosswind stability, lack of weather sealing on most current suspension performance wheels, leg tiredness/wobbles in braking (need to keep carving ever so slightly), and electrical issues that still lead to some VERY RARE unexpected cut-outs, even on the latest Lynx etc. Most of those can be mitigated but you need to be aware of those shortcomings. I no longer push to the limit "full throttle" like I would on motorbikes - get an EUC to cruise on, its the most fun/practical PEV. Kingsong 18XL or L would be my recommendation for starting out on the cheap. I got an OG Sherman for 1st wheel, the kingsong 18L would have been better. Also bought a CPro but think those type are too heavy/fast/cumbersome unless your roads require it. The "vintage" 18L is my most used wheel but there is no traffic here.
E-scooter advantages
1. will consistently outbrake an euc,
2. can be ridden at a crawl in heavy pedestrian traffic dragging one foot for balance and then move off effortlessly, can even "track-stand" on the spot if, like me, you're a moto-trials rider,
3. will not generally faceplant, whether human error or not
4. very easy learning curve also makes it inherently safer to control, especially braking,
5. can carry 2 people, and even have a sidecar attached for a dog, as someone has done,
6. can change foot position and have a seat attached, so less tiring
7. wheelies, skids and stoppies are move fun
8. ready to use, and jump, out the box without custom fitting power pads etc
9. lights, horn, mirror on handlebars adds safety
10. less conspicuous
First of all loved your comment and the lack of consistency,,,
1. Outbreak in what? Lolol we can test battery and even hill climb and you will see who outbreak what
2. EUC can be used in any environment I can walk speed on a EUC and since it takes the same space has me forget your ridden at a crawl heavy pedestrian area it makes no sense you can’t even go inside a supermarket with it at your side or you forgot that even EUC I can walk with a handle?
3. One of my best friends is dentist you know how many people go there with broken teeth? Is not because of eucs I have 30.000 km on my legs and nearly any accident… or you forgot the size of a EUC tire compared to a 10 to 11 inch tires on scooters when bigger the safer
4 safer to control Lolol is not the EUC is connect to your body so even before thinking to break the wheel react to your body position but yes easier to learn
5 2 people just for a stupidity and dangerous situation should never be ride by two in the first place… just showing that has an advantage shows why scooters are such a problem
6 I can also change foot and also change the angle of my pedals to reduce fatigue I can see that you never ride eucs
7 I don’t understand this one
8 finally you are right in one
9 yes you have all that and also more maintenance and I can add lights to a EUC I can have a horn on my watch I can put a mirror on my helmet so I don’t see where you are safer
10. Conspicuous??? More than you on this comment impossible
Have a great day bro :) I love scooters but don’t be so pushing things to one side this video is showing practicality anyway hope you can see that your comments also make no sense if seen in a different perspective
@@MADpack Dude, you are so butthurt by comments :D Why do you even create videos if you cannot take constructive criticism. @TardMe said valid points, and you are just trying to defend your ego or something. By the way you video is pushing towards euc, so double standarts right there. (Supermarket point was absurd, you didnt show the wobbles of EUC, stability of the vehicles in general, didnt point out that scooter has in general smaller tires, so it comes with advantages and disadvatages in some aspects, servicability is also important for day to day and i could go on and on). If you will continue with your videos i would offer you to check in on your ego and relax, people in this space are chilled and not fighting eachother, we are having fun so go be butthurt somewhere else.
Best of luck to you
Euc is more fun than a scooter in every way. You sound like you tried riding an euc and couldn't get it down
@@aaronlarsen8412 lol, I've used EUCs everyday for over a year now, had 8 at one stage (various sizes between mten4 to 46kg C38 CPro with bumpers and grizzzlas), including one each for my teenage sisters that ride with me (but also prefer MX and trail riding). Have ridden and jumped friend's Master 50S etc. Learned seated riding after only a month, can now even ride seated backwards but short distances :) Down to 4 EUCs now and buying more motorbikes instead :)
@@aaronlarsen8412 yes, they are more fun in every way, thought you replied to my supermoto comparison, I bought my brother a Mantis 10 and hate riding it, wrote the above when I was just days away from buying my 1st EUC (OG Sherman that I still own) and trying hard to talk myself out of it, playing devil's advocate :)
I can't get over how much attention the EUC gets me. When I ride it to work I prefer the scooter. I just wanna get to work without everyone looking and asking questions
I like how much people look to us euc riders
@@MADpack I guess I'm a shy guy hahah, I just gotta get used to it
Ahahah you will I also love my scooters but is more if I want more comfort for my feet
I am so glad I chose the V8F. It is an under appreciated EUC, in my opinion. You provided an excellant demonstration of the V8F's commuting manners.
Thank you to share your love for the v8f.. I use it constantly. Today is here at work with me
Hello friend, how long have you been riding? I just learned on a Ninebot one C beater and I'm considering making the next purchase for commuting..
Definitley you need to upgrade
@@JL-ws1gi I've been riding for a little over a year. I have over 300mi on my V8F. I'm an old retired guy, so my EUC riding is pretty tame, improved urban streets, and on a flat part of the earth. I am pretty heavy, 255lb, but the V8F seems to have no problems with that.
Hopefully you go slowly because the v8f is not made for that weight. Not a very safe solution for you for more than i love the v8f
Such a great video.
Love this Price to performance comparison.
Next video the 2000€ price range EUC vs Escooter
If i could get the scooters will be nice. :) thank you for your comment as always ;)
Good vídeo, do you know until what ambient temperature is safe the EUC use???
It depends on the euc really below 60' should be alright
almost up to 7K subs congrats, i remember when you had less than 500
I remember that also Im leaving a video that I recorded when I was 83 subs for celebrating my first 10k.. Lets see if it happens this year
Well, I think it's unfair to compare the best $1000 EUC with a random electric scooter. At the 1000$ price point, you can get much better with a VSETT 9 for example
Will not beat the euc anyway the vsett 9
Vsett 9+ isn't bad, but when comparing e-scooters, only Zero 10X and anything above that will come close to euc.
@@MADpack a gpad joyride could do virtually everything you said the other scooter couldn’t at a price point of 700 euros. 35-40 kph top speed aswell.
I will have a look
awesome!~ i'd love to see a comparison between euc, escooter and maybe an ebike of similar battery capacity and power
It all depend what I can get my hands on :) thank you for your feedback
Just curious, do you think the 40 kph unlock is safe for a 80 kg (includes gear) person. Or is it pushing the edge?
Thats me... Ahahah basically i will only donthat if battery is above 50%. If you want to be in a safe safe side dont change anything.. But this 5kph extra is like the 5kph extra on the v11
i am about 70kg and i go 45 kph its all good
I miss to have 70kg loool
@@MADpack i wish to have more than 70kg lol i am 1.85cm tall xd
Ahahah I would give you weight :)
What about the braking distance? Which has longer?
With the euc will be more a question of skills
Wait, I've had the V8F for over year - you can unlock higher speeds???
On DarknessBot you can as well
Yeah bro.. Android euc world.. Iphone darknessbot
I've tried the EUC world app, nothing happens when I increase max speed. Still get tiltback at ~19mph...am I missing something?
Strange kt should change. Try with darknessbot for iphone and see if it change
As someone one appreciates Micromobility, the MotorWheel is the best mode of transport for on and off public transport, in and out of buildings.
Motorwheel?
@@MADpack I have started calling the "EUC" a motor-wheel, it is an accurate description. It is important should we wish to legalise in the UK in the near future that description being used is correct, and also leads itself to a vehicle, you could also consider descriptions such as electric mono wheel or mono motor-wheel, but for simplicity motor-wheel would be best.
I get you now thank you to clarify
@@frederickoparah1669 It's an EUC... that's it lol
Yeah agree a car is a car a bike is a bike and an euc is an euc.. Bit i also understand his point of view
Agree that maybe a light EUC has some convenience, but the E-TWOW is pretty easy to fold and carry and you don't need to gear up as much when riding it. And, of course, anyone can hop on the scooter and go, but the EUC requires dedication to learn and master. All this is to say I don't think it's a slam-dunk win for the EUC. I own and ride both the E-TWOW and several EUCs.
Which eucs you own? And you feel less safe in a euc than on a scooter?
@@MADpack V11, GW MCM-5. I suppose the scooter might be more treacherous on bad or wet pavement, but it would certainly be easier to ride on errands than the V11.
Easier to start but in long term the euc wins in safety
@@MADpack only thing is that if there is a cutout or electric failure (control board, battery) on EUC you will faceplant. You really need to trust and hope it will not fail.
I have 6 eucs ride for more than 20.000km and never had a cutoff in my life. Hope it will continue like this but majority of the cutoff are human error not a motherboard failure
What’s wattage of the euc what is the wattage of the escooter?
Really was it possible to unlock the speed on the v8f? That's interesting, on my v8s(2023) even if you raise the limit, more than 35km/h the wheel doesn't allow... Probably a different firmware
In the old app you could do that by pressing 5 times in a specific part of the app and unlock what they called the fancy mode. That is now gone but I belive you can still make that on eucworld or on apple with darknessbot
@@MADpack I use exactly EUCWorld, unfortunately (or fortunately :) the wheel does not react to a higher limit than allowed
@matrxreal they may have removed that
Great comparison Bro
Thank you bro hope that you are recovering well.. You never answer me back
@@MADpack sorry bro I thought I answered all my messages. Sorry I missed yours
Not a problem just hope that you are recovering well ;)
MADpack Trying really hard….it’s not easy
Are you in a lot of pain bro?
What is the model of that scooter?
E Twow Scooter Gt 2020 - Full review after 2 months of use!
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Good old Milton Keynes haha, I grew up around westcroft
Só you so a lot of places that you know ;)
The only thing about EUC is having to put on all the protective gear every time you ride whereas with scooter you just jump on.
Ah so what you are saying is that on a scooter you can’t hurt yourself? I’m confused… is the same as saying that when you drive a car you don’t need a sit belt
Maybe the best quality compact last couple of mile device, the v8f. Only thing holding it back is the learning time needed versus a scooter, skateboard, and bike.
But everything that gives us pleasure is the difficult things in life :)
Only thing annoying with EUC is all gear. Knee pads, wrist guards and helmet minimum.
It should be annoying for any pev that you use
Or the familiarity of an EUC, as other(bike, skateboard, scooter) manual variants have been widely used vs a unicycle.
We should all get protected because our lifes are too precious
That scooter is no where near 1000$, perhaps 300-500.
Lololol this scooter cost $998 at ewheels so yeah no where near $1000
@@MADpack link?
Go on the description below press in usa option and put etwow gt. Have a nice day my friend
@@MADpack 998 is crazy for that scooter.
@@TH-camCommentator. It may 'look' that way, but e-TWOW own the market on maximizing portability and performance. The latest variant nearly hits 30mph and is under 30 lbs.
This Unicycle is just another class than scooter. You should compare the same price range so instead this toy scooter you should compare unicycle with Kaabo Mantis or Kaabo Skywalker 10s.
Hi there I compare 1000pounds scooter with 1000pounds EUC… I believe is fair :)
@@MADpack You can pay even 2000 for this scooter. Sky is the limit ;). I mean only that it is not worth. For 1000 pounds you can buy Kaabo Skywalker 10c with 48V and 15 ah with 800 W engine. Ten inch inflated tires and amortization Max speed something around 45 km and much better range than inmotion V5f cause Kaabo has two times larger battery. Of course EUC is more compact but for the same money you usually get less range and speed compared to scooter.
From my v8f I manage to do in full speed without reservations almost 18miles
That's good range but you can buy V8f for 1200 euro and Kaabo 10C for 792 Euro. V8F battery i 518 Wh and 10c has 748 Wh. I did on it 45 km and had battery left for something around 7 km more which is about 32 miles. The speed was usually 35 km/h which is 22 miles/h. I do not ride with full speed which is 27 miles/h cause it is not safe. EUC is a great device but has for me two flaws.. First minor is price compared to scooter and second is major: cut of possibility and weaker brakes, that's why I still hesitate. My weight is 100kg and 30 km with safe battery level left is absolute necessity. Even V8f could be to weak. Than we start to think about prices to times more than escooter and it starts to be a toy, quite pricy one not only PEV. The future especially in EU and it's worse side ( countries which were behind the iron curtain) could be turbulent so I think that having financial backup and not spending to much on a toys is important. I do not think that in my case EUC crash ESC as a PEV which I can fit in my car and use as a commute device to city center.
Thank you for your long message. I have to say that you lack of breaking is just you lack of experience bro. I ride every day my EUCs as my only way of transportation everyday to work I do 24miles and I ride in average at 40mph… so I can tell never have breaking problem on a EUC… to have a high end scooter is has expensive or even higher than some EUCs like the Nami but no chance that the scooter can do half of what a EUC can make. Just think that a scooter can be more stable than EUCs at speeds above 50mph
Awesome comparison, bro.
Do more comparisons of other budgets and when everyone realizes an EUC is the real deal, you can star comparing both solutions but from different budgets.
Keep them coming and big hug!
Thank you bro like always here for me ;).. The idea is good and yes I would love to do that the big issue at this moment is like we talked before is jars ro get products in the uk
@@MADpack hopefully things go back to as normal as possible tso we all get back to what we want and need.
I hope so
You can push the scooter by its handlebar in a supermarket _and_ even rest you basket on the foot rest.
Also, when it comes to the ability to climb hills, that's all dependent on the scooter you use.
I don't see EUCs ever being the most popular e-micromobility vehicle simply because of the learning curve it has compared to a bike or a scooter.
I would love EUCs to he more popular and legal in the UK, though! 🙏
Agree with the last part that because of the learning curve that at least for the next few years it will not take over scooters or bikes
@@MADpack I'd get a EUC for sure if the law regarding motorised vehicles changes to permit the use of them. They seem to be versatile, portable and a fun challenge to learn to use.
They are a lot of fun and super practical. Do you ride Euc?
@@MADpack No!
That’s why :)
Euc Wins for sure.
Definitely but i had a lot of fun doing this viseo
Which one can a complete beginner pick up and ride? EUC's have such a steep learning curve that I've seen people simply give up. Scooters can be ridden by anyone at any skill level. That alone makes it a "winner" for most people despite the EUC being more capable.
I dont think at all that is hard.. Compare to a scooter obviously but everyone that I teach in about 30 minutes they are able to go in a straight line.. So I don't see as is to hard
Related to the firstt question the easier wheel will always be a wheel that allows you to put the foot on the floor quicker and that will be like this v8f or per example the v12 a wheel that you can completely customise so is easier to learn for me
Should have switched devices with your friend and test again the performance 👀
We have basically the same weight and is not skilled to ride eucs :)
@@MADpack I know, that was exactly my point 👀you left out an important disadvantage of the EUC: your friend is not able to ride it, so with him the EUC actually loses in most categories to the scooter. And the same is true for roughly 99% of the population, the majority of which will never learn to ride an EUC for a variety of reasons even if they got the opportunity, unfortunately.
I get you now. He learn already but not to take the device to the limits. But here we are comparing a day to day usage not the learning curve that obviously is easier on a escooter. But if you have both how is your day
You did not pay 1000 for that scooter?!
I didnt they sent to me
I've been trying to decide between these two and I'm not sure what to pick. I think the EUC has more pros but I'm not sure if it's worth getting one as I have a bad back injury. Do you think an EUC would be sore on a back or do you think it would be better to get a scooter to be safe?
Like everything is all about posture if you want less stress on the back if you ride slower and also if you buy one with suspension you will be getting great results… back problems many times means weak abs… hope that it helps you out
@@MADpack You've just gained a new subscriber as I greatly appreciate you responding back to me. I have one more question which I hope you can help me with. Is their a particular EUC which you'd recommend? (I've no experience with operating any EV). I'm willing to go up to £3000 GBP
It depends what are you searching?! What is the main purpose
@@MADpack My perfect EUC would have a great suspension so its less likely my back would hurt so i want a king song s20 when it comes out but I've heard when starting out ypu should get a small nimble EUC.
In terms of what it would be used for, mainly travel on cycle paths and roads then eventually ill try some off road. Speed isn't too important
But do you ride an EUC already or you still have to learn?
you can go down the stairs with a 1000 dollar eletric scooter so both get 1 point
Só do you think is the same comfort to take it down?
yes sorry for my late response and thanks for this video it made me decide 👍
@@BrickEngines happy that I could help younput
My V8f weighs 14 kgs..not 20kgs.. The bigger V10f weighs about 20kgs.
Ahahah yes you are right mistake finish to make this video was 2am
I think I'd be more prone to accidents on an EUC than a scooter.
Do you ride EUC?
Dualtron thunder 3 for me. Euc can malfunction and make you faceplant. Way to dangerous and no where near the torque of a dualtron thunder 3 or top speed
This is the conversation of someone that don’t ride electric unicycles so let me tell you… I swap my car for electric unicycles In 2018. Six years later I own multiple wheels (I own 7 at the minute) I have more than 30.000 miles never had a cut off in my life hopefully or any malfunction while riding. So do I need to add up to the nonsense that you just shared? And way to dangerous… I ride everyday to go to work comeback home go to the gym supermarket etc… all the acidente that I had was never for the fault of the euc last accident was mud and previously black ice… so once again stop talking about something that you don’t have experience…
@MADpack ride a dualtron 3 soemtime. I've seen videos of pros riding eucs and out of no where the thing crashes with no warning at all. They are much more dangerous. You can't feel torque whipping you back like you can on a scooter. Best of luck
@@MADpack I can talk about what I want and look at the videos of random crashes with no causes. You're gonna fall from mud on a good electric scooter.
@thomasK411 lolol professionals… I’m a tester myself and I don’t call myself a professional… that is just human error not the fault of the wheel… the wheel give you to adverts one it will change the pedals and beep at you before cutting off… so I don’t see where is the “with no warning” … as you can see you continue to talk about things you have no information what so ever do you want to add another misleading information so maybe I can teach you a bit about euc? :) big hug
@MADpack no thanks I'll continue to say the same things. And you can continue what you're doing. I'll take the hug though lmao 🤣
Who's the tool folding and unfolding their scooter all the time? I don't know why anyone would fold it up to place it in a shopping cart when you have carrying capacity limited to a few bags or a backpack.
So what do you do please share your thoughts where do you pit your scooter?
Yeah I put the baskets on the escooter plate and walk around
Yeah, I will neither fold my scooter to step down the stairs.
I belive it depends the amount of stairs you need to make
I know I'm 2 years late but this was kind of a bias and not super thought out comparison
Definitely not this situations are real situation so explain me why is bias
Definitively, euc is the best.
E scooter is made for whoever.
Euc is made for... wheelers !
Yeah boooyyyyy
Hmmmmmmm. A lot of bias I see. 1 thing I will note is, E-scooter is easy to ride, less stress on feet/body, More control, safer, and more after market production. You gotta make some fair comparisons. Can't just give EUC 100% positive and 100% negative towards E-Scooters.
Hi there thank you for your comment that have all the sense but let me complete your comment. So yes e-scooters are easier to ride definitely but when you learn how to ride EUCs you feel much more connected to your EUC than to an electric unicycle. More control? If you have power pads and spike pedals on your EUC I can tell you than you are wrong since the EUC is more compact and more connected to all movements of your body so you have less control. Safer? That’s really strange to say when I’m an electric unicycle you have much bigger tires (only if you talk about the mten3 that I even don’t think is a EUC for real) so try to pass over the same hole with a escooter and a EUC and we talk about safety again. And when you talk about after market what are you trying to say? After market parts? Is so we have loads of power pads pedals protections from different brands and also protections to cover front ligh, stands, etc. this video was not about which one is my favourite or about how is to learn one and the other is bringing the scooter to a daily commute day which one is more conviniente and the escooter is far from competing. I love escooters also I still own one so if I didn’t like I would have sold that already but it give me other benefits. Related to the comfort is 50% correct some EUCs can be unconformable but if you put a suspension or different pedals or even configure the wheel to your riding style there is no problem in that also. Hope that now it makes more sense to you. I work with brands os EUC and escooters so why would I say something that will affect some possible sales?! This video have zero objective of sales but inform my audience. You are free to disagree but in the end I believe you completely missed the basics of this video… which one is better for commuting every day for $1000…