Anal Gland Expression of a Dog
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ม.ค. 2021
- Kara Erdman, CVT, demonstrates how to perform an anal gland expression on a canine patient.
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Penny just wants to know who the hell gave permission to film the worst day of her life 😂
And rack up 275K views, no less! Poor Penny!!!
Hahaha! I was thinking the same thing! The look on her face in the thumbnail is priceless!
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Lol
0:53 “we have overweight dogs like penny”
Penny:”bitch what”
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I said the same for her. Fat shaming 👎🤨🤣
Penny is such a charming dog, even when she's being called chubby and getting her glands expressed.
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Haha funny. I thought the sane, she is a beautiful dog.
forget the haters Penny you're just big boned!
Penny’s thicc and she’s beautiful!
And when she’s being “casually milked” 😂
Penny: „First she calls me fat and now this.“
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Aww.😂
Lol
Penny’s ears and stink eye over the shoulder when you mentioned she was overweight! 😹
“WHAT. IM FAT”. She was shocked.
I noticed that too! LOL!!
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well it's not penny's fault, it's the owners
@@baokachi9767 he/she didn't say it was dumbass she/he is pointing it out of the dogs expression
**Freeze Frame**
Yup, that’s me. You’re probably wondering how I ended up here.
Penny is like wait what happened to patient doctor confidential ..I did not agree to this...Thank you Penny for being a good sport
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The look on Penny's face....."I have been violated"
Two knuckle deep yet!
i wish i was the dog!!! :D
@@CORKBE gay
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Penny did not look emotionally prepared for that
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Nooooo! She really didnt!!! Awww! What a precious face. . !
I don’t think anyone could be lol
Penny: I DID NOT CONSENT. WHO APPROVED THIS.
I love how her ears lift when you talk about her being overweight.
You are very professional and explained this procedure very well.
This procedure is wrong, don't do it to your dogs
@@AndresRamirez77 Why is it bad? Like i saw lot of vet doing this, i'm curious because if it's bad, that suck that they do that
She said “uuummmmmm” 73 times
I’m very impressed with the poise and professionalism of the presenter. Such an excellent job!
CVTs are licensed professionals, so we should be communicating as such. Gone are the days where anyone can call themselves a "vet tech." College degree, national and state boards, nothing less should have that title.
Same I’m flabbergasted
Penny looks quite humiliated, and fat-shamed...
"Overweight" is merely a clinical term that means the patient is over the range that is considered safe and healthy for their age, breed, and species, but is not in the obese category.
@@cellogirl11rw55I think they were joking
...when we have overweight dogs...
Penny: hm
...like Penny
Penny: 👁👄👁
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Penny is a very good girl! She was so patient even when something uncomfortable was happening to her! I love chubby dogs btw!
chubby dogs and cats are so cute ❤️
you owe the west mesilla cartel a considerable amount of money, ms. gabby lopez. i would watch your back!
@@stjeep they’re not cute, they’re unhealthy :(
@@adamvlast4675 i dont see how one cancels out the other
That look on her face in the thumbnail says it all.
The dog, that is.
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She looks scared and embarrassed
I came for this comment. Thank you 😂
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i don't know how i ended up on this but I hope my dog never goes through this and Penny needs a hug.
No, Penny needs an owner who will love her enough to stop feeding her too much and place her on a weight reduction diet. Penny's owner needs to care enough to get outside with her and exercise her and exercise her until she loses some weight.
Allowing one's dog to become so obese , is not an act of love. Exercising your dog is an act of love.
Our husky was never overweight and she was exercised constantly and placed on the specific diet that our veterinarian prescribed for her. She never had to have her glands expressed by the veterinarian. She lived 16 years and she was extremely active until one week before she died.
@@DeniseEggertwaterlilyDamnnnn
Good for you keeping your dog in good shape and getting such a good age with her/him.
My mixed breed has been really healthy, never overweight as he will stop eating when he has had enough. He is 19 years old and still going strong, even though he is almost completely blind and a little unsteady on his back legs. He's happy and enjoying his old age..🧘🏻♀️🐕🫂🪻💞💜✨️
Poor Penny's eyes bugged out during the procedure! Really informative video!
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That was so very helpful. Thank you. I'm in my 70's and have had dogs since childhood and had never heard of this until last year when I adopted a 9 y.o. male toy poodle who exhibited that scooting behavior. My vet used the term ""anal gland expression" and explained a little bit but watching it with your explanation is really appreciated.
愿您和狗狗们健康长寿！❤
Same with me !!!!! I'm 72, had dogs All my life.
In 2017, my daughter and I got a 1 year old Pittie, he's 7 now.
Had problems all thru with this. I don't understand.
It's Awful for Him. He makes an awful noise when it's done. I just don't know what to do for him to make it Stop. 😢
I think it's so
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@@roxybuell9898Have you taken him to the vet for it? Just curious because it isn’t normal for them to have such problems with their glands. Especially larger dogs.
I have to express my shihtzu’s glands a couple times a month but she has no problems with it.
Same here - I'm 71 here in Australia and only now I think our poodles both have anal gland issues (licking the area). My previous dogs have not had this to my knowledge.
Don’t keep your mouth open 😂
I don’t know why that made me laugh so hard.
Not so funny when you're the one it squirts on LOL
@@beafraid2951 oh I know. 😂 I point them to the wall while I stand beside.
@m lol
She should probably also be wearing goggles.
Thank you for the very professional explanation. As a former EMT, I'm familiar with plenty of technically unpleasant events in patient care but that IS the point. In EMS I often felt I was helping people out on the worst day of their lives and there is no room for being squeamish. Just strap on your PPE and BSI on do what has to be done. I've had dogs and knew, basically, what happened but I appreciate the demonstration. Thanks.
Poor Penny... she'll get over it. lol.
She’ll actually feel better for it, too! Imagine the discomfort dogs feel when they get all bound up like that!
Thanks for posting. My wife didn't even watch the video, I just gave her the bullet points, and she was able to express our Golden Retriever's glands last night. The dog is doing much better now 👍
Aww you guys are good pet owners. ❤
You watched the video and then had your wife do it? Please tell me you have no fingers or something lol 😅
How could u tell there was a problem
Just had this done yesterday.. I finally dont have the urge to drag my rear end around on the carpet. It was becoming embarrassing when I would have guest over. But all good now. Thanks for the recommendation Penny!!!
The dogs facial expression is priceless on the preview.
Pretty amazing. How you are able to explain in textbook prose while on camera with finger in dog bum is beyond me. I think you should probably have your own show. You're good at this.
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Aaahhh Penny’s face whilst that first finger went in was so. “ omg! I can’t believe they are filming me doing this! “ good girl Penny!
Had my dogs anal glands removed but she still smells so awful when she drops a fart.
I appreciate how she mentions what to assess, and not just how to do it!
Penny looks at the camera, “Tell me I’m pretty...”
yes Penny you are a sweet thing!
He is such a cute dog
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Oh my God! That is so funny!!! 😂
Penny’s face in the thumbnail is a perfect description, and it’s priceless!
Years ago a vet expressed my dachshunds anal glands and that stuff shot out of him like it had been shot out of cannon. It hit the wall and slid down and the smell that permeated that tiny exam room can only be described as the most virulent scent from the bowels of hell. I started gagging while the vet tech start spraying some disenfectant all around the room. I will never forget it but can now look back on it with some humor.
That is epic
@@witzelasper2821:
AMEN!!
@@zyklonbeast2711 It's the worst smell imaginable. I would rather sit in a room with a dead body, durian, and surstromming than to ever smell it again.
My kids want a puppy so we’re gonna have them in the room while our 15 yr old dog is expressed 🎉
@@ohemdoublegeeas a hospice worker can confirm smells worse than cleaning poop off a dead body
Thanks Kara,Penny and Evan.Its not often Vets give out information to owners that we can simply do at home.
Why on earth would anyone do this at home? This is definitely something you should leave to a professional
I fully agree with you Tina. I have a 15 year old Rat Terrier girl who has very active anal glands. They charge $27.00 to do this procedure at the vets office and that’s if you can get an appointment when it’s needed. My girl has to have it done 1-2 times a month. The vet is aware of this and we know we are just trying to keep her comfortable. They truly are uncomfortable when they are full and while she doesn’t enjoy it, she knows Mom is easy and I believe she appreciates the relief. 🤘🏼🤍
Don’t do it at home!!
@@KatTheTruth Several people posted that they did it, one regularly. So, one can do it at home - it doesn't require a professional - it's why the video was made! Professionals don't need instructions. And as to why, to save money.
@@katie8325 Several people posted that they did it, one regularly. So, one can do it at home - it doesn't require a professional - it's why the video was made! Professionals don't need instructions. And as to why, to save money.
I had a Springer Spaniel many many years ago with this issue. I can STILL remember how strong that scent was. One cannot underestimate just how "pungent" - (understatement of the year!) this process can be. Thank you for doing such a great professional job for Penny!
Absolutely correct my put mix I rescued a few months ago has some issues w hers n omg tht smell is unlike any other😂😂
@@alishaparker315 😅🤣😂
I noticed the scooting in my dog, so I switched to a really high quality fog food (orijen senior and regional red in case anyone wants to know) and they firmed up his stools a LOT. Like almost too hard. I added some pumpkin to combat the too-hard texture. his issues have cleared, he lost weight, his eyes have cleared quite a bit. Hes 11 and I noticed just changing his food has improved his condition totally. I feel like I have my pup back 💜❤️
Protein and bonemeal feed is definitely a really good preventative care method.
Grain free food
@@emilymcdaniel7477garbanzo/ chickpeas, lentils, and peas cause heart issues
Bless her little heart !the look on her precious baby face.
Professional, informative, and right to the point. Thank you Kara, Penny, and Evan (and the camera operator) for this extremely helpful video! ❤️🩹
God bless all vets and technicians....i could never do this ...id be terrified I'd get bit😬😬
Appreciate the clear information & demonstration on annal gland expression Kara! Not an easy topic, which you did a good job for those of us, who may need knowing the information! Good Job 👍🏻
My husband plans on doing this for our dog today, alone. Now I know this is a 2 person job. Thanks for the info. A lot of sites tell you to see your vet, for every simple thing.
My mom was a dog groomer and had a shop that was built on to our house. She used to take all the dogs out to our garden to express.. she said it was good for the soil. We grew vegetables. LOL
I can always tell when vegetables have been grown and fertilized with K-9 Anal glands.
Any really good produce has got the Anal Gland emblem on it.
^^^ still 😆 🤣 😂 hahaha 👌
You make it look so easy.
I regret not having the surgery for my dog Daisy. She has had a lifetime of foul-smelling scoots across my rugs and floors. Daisy has also scooted in the backyard and there have been times that she gets caked with mud and smells awful.
Keep teaching because this is important. Daisy is now 13 and a half years old so the procedure for her is not on the table because of her age.
No way I would do this myself on my feline.
@@smith3329 felines don't need this procedure, thankfully.
@@smith3329 no way, no thanks. I think I'd rather decline
So this is why dog peoples houses smell so bad 😂
@@emsa5034 or it's you 🙃
Penny has that “Just shoot me” look on her face
This is why I adore dachshunds. You can tell exactly what they are thinking by their expressions. Penny is thinking, "I'm not at all comfortable here, could someone just take me home!"
Penny was offended when she heard that she was overweight. LOL
My yellow lab had a blow out and I never knew what she was going thru! After that I did the glands at least every 2 weeks, and she was fine. It's not hard to do, like the size of a grape. Gentle squeeze and you can feel it pop.
Anal gland abscesses are no fun!
I don’t know why this was recommended to me but this is exactly what I needed to see to help my parents with their dog 🙏
Best of all the Anal gland videos on TH-cam. In 8 minutes the Technician covers it all in a very professional manner - well DONE!
Thanks for making it an easy show and tell. Way to go KARA ERDMAN...
Our groomer did our lab when she shaved him for summer. Ben came home and cried all the way home, 'talking' in the back of our van and trying to tell us 'something' that happened that was obviously traumatic. He cried and paced for hours and then it hit me what had him so upset.....THE ANAL GLANDS!!! Poor guy cried and 'talked' until I told him he could sleep on our bed. Then and only then did Ben settle down and go to sleep. Very upset boy!!!!
First time veterinarian did my cocker and she cried out, nothing was expressed. My chihuahua does her own, I noticed my Yorkie has been licking her private area and I thought maybe she was getting a UTI but she isn’t swollen, so maybe she needs her glands expressed. Normally a dogs stool will do this when they poop if their stools are firmer.
He was violated! 😂
Husky?
Shaved for summer? A lab? Whyyyyy lmao you shouldn’t shave a labrador
@@dmariewalker6880 what do u mean your chihuahua does their own
She’s looking at the camera like “please help me I’m scared”
Shout out to Evan for bracing *and* confirming Penny during her “close up.” You all did a fantastic job! I appreciate the education and pray that my 🐶 gets such loving care when the vet takes him behind the doors of no return. 💗🙏🐾
The look on Penny's face when you start to explain what you are going to do....priceless
I love how at around the 4:20 mark the poor wee thing suddenly gets a "think happy thoughts, think happy thoughts" expression on her face! Reminds me of me when the dentist starts drilling!
If I were you I would seriously consider changing dentist. If my dentist started drilling my butt I would want a full explanation followed by a refund and compensation to follow..😂🤣
As I look at the thumbnail for this video, and into that dog's eyes, I notice how much is being conveyed in that look. There is a hint of relief; perhaps it is a little easier to sit and roll around with that release having occured.
But...
There is more in those eyes than that.
Much more.
Poor lil thing...
Good job. For those of us that are unaware of how to do this procedure correctly, it was educational.
Great video you guys,I used to have to do this on my older lab/cross I did fairly well at ,but it does have a pungent odor.Keep up the great job you all do at Dove Lewis!
Credits on the lady vet for doing her job perfect with no sarcastic reaction on handling private part.
This veterinary tech is top shelf!
As CVTs, we should be top shelf. We are not unlicensed assistants, we are the RNs in the vet world. And I am an RN as well, so I can actually say that. CVT school was WAY more difficult, and interesting, than RN school.
Poor Penny's face before she got flipped around was priceless. Lol
This makes me even more impressed by my vet.
We came because one of our young cats, who recently got neutered, was peeing everywhere. He’s usually a well behaved kitty, so I knew something was off. Within 5 minutes she’d figured out the problem and sent us on our way. She’d expressed the glands on her own within seconds.
Awesome
I had a Sheltie mix and my vet had to do this on most visits. Smell is strong, no kidding, but my dog felt relief afterward. Thank you so much!
Avoid having anal expression done at the groomers. Was warned that this really should only be done by a veterinarian/vet nurse because of the risk of actually causing other issues like abscesses.
Groomers do anal gland expressions on every dog, every time. That’s totally not necessary. Glands should only be expressed if they are a problem
Absolutely agree
I have a female cat. 4 years old. She has been spades and is house bound. Do cats have these glands?.
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Yes cats do @@pamosb7940
Nice educational!!! It’s worth every dollar to me to take my little Abby in. You vets are the best!
She is not a vet. She is a CVT, a licensed veterinary technician. The equivalent of an RN in human med.
@@kellyflood8136 Thank you Kelly for the educational. I knew that as my daughter is a Vet tech and I happen to be an RN with a BSN. I like to think of the whole team in the Veternary world as “Vets” as the technician’s role is vast and professional. Are you a veterinarian, is that why you didn’t want this veterinarian technician or veterinarian assistant upgraded to a doctor?
@@jeaninemartin No, not at all. I am a CVT and an RN. Just clarifying, since you referred to her as a vet. There is A LOT of confusion in this field. Cheers!
@@kellyflood8136 oh my gosh what a coincidence 😊 take care!
Out of the couple videos I have watched on this topic you are the first and only person who has said to make sure you go to the cranial point and squeeze! So thank you so much for saying that and making that point for those of us who might not have known and are making sure we do as much research we can!
I was taught by a veterinarian that i worked with to never express a dogs anal glands from squeezing on the outside because it can build up a lot of scar tissue and to always do it internally just like you did.
Michele Evans, i didn’t know that , I’m glad you said that because I’ve been doing it on the outside, thanks x
I've not heard that but it makes sense. I know that doing it from the outside doesn't always empty them, groomers do it that way and we have people all the time say "but the groomer just did that!"
It can burst actually. Much worse. It's illegal in most places for a groomer to do anal glands because of that.
Ha well I'm an RN retired and have done
My dogs anal glands and scraped their teeth for over twenty years with zero problems
U can do it with light pressure
Don't believe it.......
Follow the money trail
Nah …. You can do it from the outside . Nothing wrong with it . It isn’t ideal but if it’s only done once a blue moon it’s not going to cause scar tissue .
Although I wanted to vomit 🤢
I thank you very much for the class
I’ve always looked for a video like this and never find it.
Very helpful.
Sometimes Its smells so horrible.and if it gets on you you'll smell it forever lol even if u wash it off. Great tutorial. Fellow youtuber and veterinary field worker ❤🐾
Vicks nasal inhaler should clear that up keep it in your pocket anytime really gross smells jump you LOL
All my life I've had dogs, never had that problem, never needed to go to the groomers, just brushed daily. Wow, I REALLY have dodged that bullet so far!!
It is an oil
Not a veterinary field worker. A CVT -- degree and licensed at state and national levels. We are nurses. Anal sac expression is actually one of the "easier" skills, compared to urinary catheters, central lines, etc.
@@kellyflood8136 I love that Congratulations on your accomplishments. I agree anal gland expression is one of the easier skills .But with anything you do becomes easy with practice.Im a veterinary assistant. And trust even with blood draws depending on the breed it's a hit or miss.
Good to know. I've never had one of my German Shepherd's to need their glands expelled manually. We are getting a Pembroke Welsh Corgi puppy in 2 days and it's a new breed for our family.
Thanks for sharing this. Great camera work, catching the necessary angles 👍
Wow that young lady was soo well spoken , she did a fantastic job explaining, normally I would have just scanned then left the page but her voice was so clear, direct and engaging i watched until the end, bet she'd make a fantastic salesperson given a product she believed in!!!!!.
Damn, You should have bought Penny dinner before that butt action 🤣
The comments on this video are comedic gold.
Thank you . Very clear and easy to follow demonstration.
So glad I caught this. I have been fortunate with my own dogs doing without this but I had been aware of issues. An Aunt who raised 8 children while working a farm inherited a son's bulldog. She grew to love it and was taking him to the vet a lot for this. She mended the grown sons jeans, made all their own catsup, canned. A depression era person so this expense was troubling for her as a conservative widow alone. I told her I was sure she could watch the vet and learn how. She told me I was right! Easy for a gal who had helped pull calves.
Thank you for this video. My dogs and I have learned a lot. 💛
Very helpful and super informative. Thank you!
Saw a groomer on tiktok do this without gloves and I almost cried for her. Glad to see that y'all don't find that negotiable!
Penny’s face was hilarious
I’ve never seen a dog with chubby cheeks 🥰 So precious
Very well done instructional video. I don’t have a dog, so I had no idea this was a thing.
I knew about it, but one of the vets at my late dog"s clinic used something plastic to express his glands. He howled like I had never seen. I like the way this tech did it.
Great video. I always wondered how to do this as I'd heard many people say they expressed the glands of their own dogs, themselves. Thank you.
The dogs facial expression in the video thumbnail is everything
When i got my chaweenie, Gracie, she had trouble pooing and she had a smell emanating from her. none of the dogs I had before her had this issue... Fast forward, my Vet expressed her glands for $90.!! I was like WTF! I went online to see what causes this... well, it’s nothing crazy, our dogs that have this issue lack FIBER in their diet...so I found out a great fiber to add to her food everyday, (I got it in Trader Joe’s in the cereal aisle)I use an organic ground flaxseed and put about 1 tsp. in the a.m. and 1 tsp. in the p.m. in her food... She’s about 15 lbs. I have never smelled that awful odor again and never had to have the vet express her glands since doing this... I hope this helps someone out there! 🐶❤️🥰
Def going to try this! Thanks
Will have to try this thanks !!
What is the fiber called ?
@@victoria.teixeira the fiber I add to her food is organic ground flaxseed that I buy from Trader Joe’s, a local supermarket. You can also grind up flaxseed yourself in a small grinder. I like to use organic to limit the toxic pesticides/herbicides, etc. used on seeds/veggies...I also give my dogs small organic carrots... hope I answered your question..☺️
Penny is like “ this is embarrassing 😳!” Lol
My Gemma just was to the vet 2 days ago. Same problem. But with meds she is feeling good again. I've had dogs for 70 years, and this was new to me.
Kara explains it perfectly. Thank you!❤️
Our sweet lab/pit lives in fear of anal gland expressing, we don't know why. Each vet visit he tucks in his tail and keeps his bum against the wall. I am thankful to the techs who can perform this and appreciate their work. Now he's so worried he's sedated, yet he needs internal 2x a year or its bad
That poor baby!
@DaKay...you are a good fur baby parent!! You take good care of your sweet baby!!! I have 3 dogs and they are my kids. I love when I hear sweet stories about other people's cur baby's.
My wish for all animals to get treated like they are our children..wish I could rescue every homeless animal..🐾🐾🐾🐾🙌
... what's bad??? ???
...the scooting???
@@TheOneLawgiverHolyGod Rufus quickly builds up anal gland secretions- his don't empty when he poops, they become backed up and impacted; smell horrible and cause him discomfort; scooting is his way of relieving pain and discomfort. Every year he's checked to ensure its not parasites. Every time the glands are emptied the vet tech expresses surprise at the volume :(
I'd rather pay the 17 dollars to have the vet do my Pitbull LOL!!
Money well spent, worst smell ever
Tbh, its usually best to get a pro to do any and all butt related medical care. Dog or human.
Vets normally don't do it -- a CVT or sometimes an experienced, unlicensed veterinary assistant may, unless there are complications that require flushing, etc.
Gorgeous lovely doggie. I love how the dog is making human expressions and is human like.
How kind you are. Thank you! You must love the 👶
Thank you for your knowledge and professionalism. my little buddy is needing this done every couple months and he is very uneasy around anyone that isn’t me or his momma. I’ve read online that this little issue can be caused by not having enough fiber in his diet and he will start scooting when he needs this done. He gets so upset when anyone comes near him that he doesn’t know that they put a muzzle on him and I can tell that he is nowhere near as relaxed as penny in your video. Should I perform this at home where he is more relaxed and should I be changing his diet. He is a chiwahwah and he is a year old.
I don't think its gross at all, I mean we DO clean up after them so this is just another thing to help them along.
Poor Penny, you could see she was like:
"At least pixelate my face"
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All jokes aside - I've had dogs my whole life and this is one procedure that is a must for them. My 2 bichon girls have theirs checked regularly. The discomfort they must feel when they're full to bursting.
Thank you for sharing your information and demonstration.
I learned alot from this video. Thank you 😊
I never thought I'd be sitting here watching a dogs butt, but I love anything educational.
Very well done, so helpful and clearly explained. Thank you!
THANK YOU ive wondered about this for years!
You guys are pros! Great job!
Penny’s face is priceless right now lol 😳
I just loved how yalls masks and gloves matched your scrub tops lol
I am studying animals studies cert 2 at the moment, hoping to become a vet nurse. This helped a lot for my learning thank you 😊
Thank you for showing it actually being done. I've always done the external expression but knew I needed to know how to do the internal as its much better for them. I've had many dogs but only three that had problems with their anal glands. I read that its not because of the consistency of their poop, but more about the width. My 3 month Standard Poodle is having problems with her glands. Her poop is normal but the glands are not expressing. Nothing worse than the smell of fish (anal glands) on the couch. Thanks for not shying away and just doing what most videos show, which is animated. What do you recommend for clean up, it's so hard to get the smell out of a room after doing it. Thank you!
I just want to let you know that you are not alone and my dog and I have the same issues. I didn't know that there is an external way. Daisy is almost 14 and I wish that I would have had surgery for her when this all started. I'll miss her terribly but not so much the awful smell.😖
Try sitting a bowl of baking soda or activated charcoal in the room and keeping the door closed until it clears the air. Also you can slice a tomato on a plate and leave it in there. Tomatoes soak up odor.
@@elizabethwest9729 orange peel full of salt and baking soda works, too.
Do it outside or bathroom- door closed, exhaust fan on. When finished use incense or light a candle and blow it out. Dilutedviegar spray.
@@xxyy1318 Thank you. Yes, I've been doing it outside weather permitting or Inside like you say with the bathroom door closed and fan on.