Another Evergreen Ship Grounded | One Year After Suez Canal | Chief MAKOi
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- Almost a year after the Ever Given ran aground in the Suez Canal and disrupted global shipping, another Evergreen ship gets stuck in the mud but this time in the Chesapeake Bay after departing Baltimore.
Last year the QAnon followers practically swarmed on the topic alleging that the ship was owned by Hillary Clinton. We had a really good time in the comments back then.
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I wonder if This Evergreen is carrying the same cargo as the last Evergreen?? Lots of dead, trafficked children that you’ll never hear on the Lame stream media..
Do you have proof of that?
Perhaps you should edit in a LOL at the end of your comment.
If you're serious, well, wear the Pin of Shame proudly.
LOL
@@ChiefMAKOi I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on evidence of that...
Or maybe there's a giant crab underneath the ship that will awaken once the USA nuke the bay to free the ship. Just a thought though, maybe it should be called CHESAPEAKEBAYCRAB
Rumor has it that numerous people from the Trump administration were found in the containers onboard. That is awful--I was unaware of Trump trafficking on such a scale. I'm assuming they must have been in the orange containers.
Amazing, we’re witnessing a species evolving. In a 1000 years Evergreen ships will be walking on land.
lolololo ahahahah
Are you working on a dissertation putting forth the theory of EVERloution?
Well done, Harriet Daisy and A B.
"Life... uh... Life finds a way."
A bunch of SUEZCANALCRABS if you will.
A guy in the pub told me that Evergreen are putting all their ships in dry dock to have wheels fitted.
If they would build these ships with a shorter draft, then there would be more space below the keel so these groundings would never happen. Duh??
@@terry_willis Great idea. What would you recommend to do to with the centre of gravity and centre of buoyancy?
@@terry_willis That's easy to say. But making the draft shallower will also make the ship more unstable. You need at least double the weight below the waterline as you do above it otherwise the center of gravity will be too high and the ship has a high chance of capsizing.
@@killman369547 they could try that then and just load those containers on the bottom instead of ontop. Of course the wheels won't work then,? At least the COG & ballast would improve with lading.
That sibling rivalry on who can do it “better”
That was a bit evil.... I´m laughin my but off!!! 😁
Lol 😂
Best answer and results yet. Thank you.
Like Jake and Logan Paul seeing who can be worse
Ever Grounded. Ever Stranded. Ever Delayed. The ship names write themselves. One might wonder if there's a fleet wide problem at Evergreen.
Evergreen has one of the biggest fleets in the world, though, so they probably don't have much of a problem if you only hear about two strandings in two years, and you only hear about the second one because of the notoriety of the first. This year's would have made 30 seconds on the local news, if that, normally.
The ship has a Maryland licensed pilot on board to guide it in the Chesapeake bay.
lol yes
Don't forget the Ever Forward that is stuck at Chesapeak Bay.
you have won the interwebs today sir well done
To avoid further embarrassment, Evergreen has changed the name of the ship to Everbackward. The original name wasn’t working out apparently and a new name might help it avoid a sticky situation.
We need more fossil fuel monsters out
their to increase the ice cap melting
to increase water levels around the world.
Everstuck or Evergrounded more appropriate names.
@@oriolesfan7807 I find the more economic solution to be by simply adding an "N" before their company and shipnames.
Unlike the Ever Given incident this grounding in within view of thousands of waterfront homes in a densely populated area. Our house is 20 mi. south on the western shore of the bay. Can't quite see it from here. Another piece of bad news: the tidal range here is less than one foot. I'm pretty sure they will have to do significant unloading to get her free. The accident will likely be investigated by the National Transportation Safety Board. I have worked with them a couple of times before. They are very thorough but not quick. I will be several months before we get a report as to what happened on the bridge.
Vessel in decent weather is viewable from a local County Park.
they could perhaps attach large floats/ballons around the ship to provide extra lift. I know there are some heavy duty industrial ballons used to roll large ships on land in dry docks. Something similar might be useable here.
Also "pingpong balls" under fabrick have also been used with success in similar cases. Mythbusters even made an episode about it.
How come they even go there when the bay has that little depth you got any idea? Did they stray off a route that would have allowed them to pass?
Have they outsmarted themselves? Made a ship bigger than they can navigate?
Next ship out of the yard: Ever Bigger!
it's probably just because it's a big ship and there are a lot of them but i'm going to laugh every time an evergreen ship has a problem (as long as no one got hurt).
Time for countries to reduce their reliance on imports of things they should be producing domestically. We should be maintaining skills and jobs in all larger countries. For example, complex aluminium casting capacity has predominantly shifted to china.
Another informative video Chief! Maybe you should just start a series of these incidents and call it Ever Entertaining. Best wishes to you and your family. ❤️
There is obviously a 'Hold my beer' thing going on within the Evergreen mariner community. Although the Suez Canal thing is difficult to beat. Thanks for keeping us informed, Chief!
Hey Flanders hold my beer 🍺😂
Well she would have had a pilot aboard here, though the same could be said for the ever given. Based on where she is and the channel layout its like she made it halfway thru her southerly turn, she's not straight across from the channel she was turning out of like I'd expect if she had completely failed to turn but she didn't make it all the way around which is only about 20 degrees. The wind was out of the north and not overly strong so it shouldn't have been an issue, and not one that would have made a southerly turn problematic. Itll be interesting to find out what happened as she made half the turn so it couldn't have been a total loss of rudder control short of it failing in the middle of the turn and swinging back to straight ahead, the difference between the depth in the channel and outside it is very significant throughout the bay so if she had a navigational error I would think she'd have had issues before even getting to the turn, one thing I would be curious about is if there was other traffic that forced her to avoid collision as it is a busy area for both commercial and recreational boats some of which have no idea what the rulesmof the road are let alone vessels that are RAM. Not sure if running over a sailboat instead of hitting a shoal at12 knots would be the right call but could be a potential cause. That said though, while the master would have final say there was a pilot on board as well so its not necessarily all on Evergreen.
@@alexkitner5356 pilot is compulsory..either Maryland Bay Pilot or Fed qualified...no exceptions
Good Report Chief. Having been involved with the mother of all groundings, the Exxon Valdez in Alaska, I'd be interested in your take on that incident and the legal/disciplinary consequences captains and crews can are subject in such cases. Thanks!
As a licensed Captain ,I know that area well . It's not really mud but sand/ oysters bars. To get her released they should have attempted to free her 2 days ago. Heavy rains 2 " and release of water from the conawingo dam with the aid of tugs. To run aground there is just a sign of poor navigation training. The ships pilots. Damage to local oyster beds and marine life. One small saving they didn't hit the bay bridges.
There is a reconstruction based on AIS data, they just didn't make any attempt at turning when the channel turned.
You could blow the Conowingo Dam and not even notice an increase in depth at the location of the EF.
The Conowingo Dam mostly holds back settlement (earth) not water.
Evergreen = NeverMoving. In 1950 the battleship USS Missouri got stuck on a sand bar off of Norfolk, VA. It ended the captains career.
Thanks Chief - looked at the charts in and out of Baltimore, and those are very narrow dredged channels. Looks like there's not much room for error before you're on the mud!
1:06. "Luckily, the grounding incident is not preventing other ships from transiting to or from the Port of Baltimore as the Everforward is located outside the main shipping channel...." 😆
There's a guy who works at a local plumbing supply house who used to be a merchant marine. Somebody showed him the video of the Ever Forward stuck in the Chesapeake and his expert analyses was "Yep, she's good and stuck alright". I'm glad the Chief goes in a bit more depth.
It was you, wasn't it? You showed him the video.
Lol @ "Ever Forward". I'll bet they're regretting that particular choice of name right now.
USS Missouri grounded on the mud flats in that area in the early/mid 1950's. IIRC it took about 6/7months to free her. This situation is a little different, but the salvors might want to review that grounding to see if there is any information that could help them.
Yeah. Dig a bigger hole in the Channel, or dredge it more often.
@@robinlecomte1242 It's not in the Channel and the bay's ecosystem is in bad enough shape that no one wants to expand it. The local fishing industry is nearly dead as is.
The Missouri ran around in the thimble shoals channel in the lower bay very close to the Thimble shoal lghthouse
@@williamsorey8160 Thanks for the Info. I knew it was around there somewhere. Later on I read that thee ship bent it's keel or suffered other damage that either wasn't repaired or well repaired. Thanks again.
Just thought of the Might Mo myself!
Repeated misconception in the comments here: pilots are not employed by the shipping companies. _If_ it was the pilot's fault (and we dont know who's fault it was), that isn't something Evergreen can fix.
Probably not true, having a pilot on board DOES NOT relieve the Captain of his,or her, responsibility for safety of ship and proper navigation.
@@chuckaddison5134 Just a question. For what distance do the pilots remain on board a ship? Thanks
@@jimjohnston7688
Generally until the vessel has cleared any obstacles such as shoal water, sandbars, reefs, etc. and is in deep, navigable waters. In this case I don't know if the pilot was still on board. I've never been that far up the Chesapeake. Norfolk was as far as I ever went.
To be clear:
Pilots are not _employed_ by the ship (shipping co.)
Pilots are _paid for_ by the ship (shipping co.)
The master (captain) retains responsibility for the ship in all piloting situations except the Panama Canal.
Pilots are also held accountable for accidents.
The dramatic increase in ship sizes has brought a commensurate reduction in margin for error. The bitter, unforgiving irony is that large ships are both less maneuverable and less responsive. (I.e. harder to change course and longer to effect any change)
Net: unless there's a dramatic increase in dredged channel dimensions, look for regular news stories about these grounded behemoths.
@@chuckaddison5134 What are you saying is "probably not true"? The pilot _is not_ employed by the shipping company. The shipping company _is not_ responsible for training pilots. These are indisputable facts.
As for responsibility, yes, in theory, the master is responsible for their ship. However, in practice, the whole reason a pilot is needed is that the ship's crew does not have the local knowledge necessary to safely navigate in the pilotage area. Unless the pilot is doing something very obviously wrong, the ship's crew basically has to trust the pilot's judgement, and this is always taken into account in accident investigations.
Old mariners formula: when the draught of your vessel exceeds the available depth of the water, you are most likely aground. I’m a landlubber but even so, understand this complex reasoning at a basic level.
If they can't keep a ship from grounding what hope does their space station have?
I see this ship everyday driving over the key bridge.
This ship driving over the Key Bridge? Is the bridge strong enough? And why driving it over every day? Is the ship commuting? So many questions, must be my limited knowledge of the English language :)
@@zonzeven You're not good enough at English to criticize... Maybe you should just add a correction if you don't like how someone on a YT comment writes.
@@toomanyhobbies2011 Did you notice the smiley at the end of my first text? If you did you would understand that I am not criticizing anybody. And what are your hobbies?
Well, I for one, am impressed.
Hey Chief MAKOi! Thanks for the thorough and informative report on this marine incident! I'm glad all mariners are safe and accounted for! You the best! Ride ride ride!
Long ago there was a questionable practice (not very common though - fortunately) to clean the ship bottom from shells by humping the vessel over a sandbank. Pretty delicate operation all and all, and required vessel in ballast only, a well known spot and a reckless captain.
When successful, the vessel speed and fuel economy had a measurable improvement. When stuck, too bad.
Method not that much used today - I hope.
That sounds like a highlight any trip they should do it with cruise ships
Captains aren’t that stupid… there’s more to this for sure
We are all humans
They completely missed the turn. My current assumption is some kind of equipment failure.
Are ships just getting to big & heavy?
Chief, will you please post the tracking of the Ever Forward close up with the channel marked before she ran aground. She's far off the channel on a bottom in 24 feet of water on a mud bottom at ten knots and currently her draft is 13 meters although her draft on the hull read 11 suggesting she rode up 2 meters as the bottom compressed. There is speculation that she never attempted to make a turn in the channel and burrowed her way in the mud making it difficult to remover her. Steering issues because I doubt that people on the bridge would allow that to happen. The coast guard is estimating a week to ten days to get here off the bottom. Thanks
What are they smoking on that Ever Green. I think they just left port out of Amsterdam. Lol
Evergreen more like Evergrounded
Very smooth reporting. You show that great reporting is possible.
Incoming “expert opinion” on calling it ever green/ever given/ever forward…
Is "Ever Grounded" taken? ;)
The front of the ships draft might be at 11 meters because as it ran aground the nose rose up out of the water 2 meters. Makes sense. She is really stuck if thats the case. Remimds me of when we had a battleship get stuck in a similar area. Wisconson i think.
Who could ever forget famous battleship USS "WisconsOn"
*USS Missouri
@@lizj5740 yeah i couldnt remember
this vessel class is proving to be too big to operate... same thing that happened to the Knock Nevis.
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Just about to give me a heart attack. I was internally screaming "not Panama" until you said where the Ever Forward was. I have some cargo that is about to hit the Panama canal in the next week or two. First time and it would be just my luck.
It's odd how only Evergreen ships are doing this. It wasn't too hard to discover the owners of this shipping line.
I always appreciate these views into current events, especially when it's from a subject matter expert!
I have zero experience or exposure to this industry, but I find it absolutely fascinating to watch your videos, as I'm literally learning concepts brand new. Thank you!
Harbor pilot involved this time?
What’s a good ship tracking app that doesn’t have a subscription?
Not sure if Marine Traffic has one or is only available on the web.
I am a landlubber locked in Iowa all my life but I enjoy your comments in your wisdom thank you for doing these things. I had heard about it briefly on a short newscast
Let you change the name of the ever forward to the ever stuck !!
She stuffed it hard, gonna be a real project to get her out and more than just lightening. I'm not too far and have the digital charts and her GPS position, in just over 500 feet it goes from 50 feet depth in the channel to under 20 feet, and the (Belvidere) shoal comes up to a 16 foot depth at its top less than 1000 feet from the channel. Even empty shes gonna be hard aground in the mud and time is just going make that mud get tighter and harder to pull out of. With such a steep change in depth there's going to be a measurable difference in just the length of the hull but on my digital chartplotter her position is right on the 18 foot depth curve which for a ship with a 42 foot draft is pretty rough. The bow is probably only showing 11 meters because its shoved up on the shoal but even at that the bow would be on the most shallow end so potentially in less than 18 feet or just under 6 meters of water. Expect a long operation to get her out, I don't think just removing weight is going to be enough to let tugs pull her out so possibly needing dredging or other help and the Chesapeake Bay is a very strictly controlled body of water from the ecological side so lots of red tape before any of these different operations are started. One other factor to note is that there's almost no big swing in tides that far up the bay with about a one foot swing yesterday with the full moon which means there's no opportunity to use a moon tide to gain a little bit of extra water depth. So basically refloating her will probably be vastly worse than the Ever Given but less impactful because she isn't blocking traffic.
Hi from uk Chief MAKOi👋👍 its amazing how easy these vessels become "" stuck "" and they vacuum holds them until forces are applied or buoyancy is a direct lift aid👌 but its quite sorry to hear that 2 of the same vessels have straid into this position🤔 hope alls well with your crews and the young cadet did well in fourth officer tests and made well👍👌 thank you always for your time be safe and see you soon👍👋
Same thing happens to 4wd when we get stuck in mud down to the chassis, sucks truck down
@@jarrod1687 am confused at your comment? Greenlaners and mud truckers look to prove their systems and skills as of roaders doesn't compare to how ships stray off course with all the technology even in wind rains gusts and swells, vessels like this should not get I this position 👍
@@marksaunders2500 I agree ships should not end up in this position. I was talking about how the mud sucks the vehicle down creating a vacuum lock when the belly is down on the mud
@@jarrod1687 I always thought the wheels dug themselves down with gravity until the belly hits to displace weight until it cant go any further and and between tyre and mud theres water👍 here with stuck vessel like this its pure stuck mud with nothing between it and as a ship runs aground it settles as theres live loads and will list a bit to either port or starboard creating the keel an bow to be totatally locked in place until massive forces are applied a stuck vehicle needs equal force to be applied but I see where your coming from tho 👍 if there was water between ship and mud like a 4x4 getting stuck it would just need to power full astern and would slip out with huge vibration as she moves iff pulling water under 👍
Where does this mysterious vacuum come from? Maybe we should ask China to turn it off.
6 meter water depth, draft 11 meter. So 5 meter in the mud. That is an issue.
Nobody briefs these events like you do, Chief. A salute to you sir and keep up the great work. Thank you!
Send both of them to the Bosporus Strait , so they can block it and stop Russian vessels entering it which will prevent them attacking the Ukraine !! :-)
Hi chief keep em coming I find your vids very informing, living near to the UK’s biggest container port Felixstowe its great for the background info.
Let me drive one of those things. Seems that I can't do much worse 🤔
I know absolutely nothing about ships. I still find myself fascinated by your videos and the way you explain things! Keep up the good work!
Unload the cargo, place a spotlight on the ship, and use it as a beacon to mark the edge of the channel.
This vessel would have had a licensed U.S. Pilot on board as required by law, who's job it is to prevent just such a grounding from occurring. He is required on board for his knowledge of local condition, and to insure the safe passage of ships.
Yeh, how did that work out?
It lost power so even the pilot couldn't do anything to prevent this.
I'm starting to wonder if Evergreen is the Swift of the seas?
I was thinking the same thing! Swifty Swift!
The only time I was on a grounded ship was also in Surimane, I was just a 9 year old kid. We were on board as guests of the captain and ran aground heading down river, on a bend. I remember going up to the bow as it was stuck in the jungle, it didn't take to long to dislodge though.
Ah the good old days 1971
Thank you, @Chief MAKOi. I initially subscribed during the Evergiven incident and since then have become increasingly fascinated by all things seafaring. Thank you, sir!
Damn. Did I hear correctly, Chief, that she was outside the regular shipping channel? I doubt she's piloted out there. This could get pretty interesting. 👍️
The Chief mentions that CG has called for a 500m/yard standoff distance, and even _that_ doesn't seem to be affecting safe passage in the shipping channel. 🤔
Hopefully the Everforward can be floated out of there and on her way quickly with little environmental impact done.
Chesapeake bay food harvest employs and feeds many people.
Please place the blame squarely where it belongs...Maryland Bay Pilot that was on board to keep her in the channel...the only excuse would be if they had a steerage or main propulsion failure
There seemed to have been no attempt to turn where there was a turn in the channel. That kind of mistake should be caught by a captain, but also is really strange for a pilot to make, so I would assume it was some kind of equipment failure.
@@HesderOleh Hope you are correct...the ship is way off the channel as traffic out of our busy port is getting by...while the ship has a deep draft she is not unusual for transiting that corner of the channel
I sailed the Chesapeake Bay, the shipping channel is 700 feet wide, very clearly marked and muddy bottom is dredged to a depth of 54 feet. The tide would only give her about a two foot assist if she grounded at low tide. If she was leaving Baltimore, she would not be fully loaded, and the Chesapeake mud is sticky so it will some serious off loading to float her if she hit the mud at ten knots.
Unless there was a mechanical failure with the steering gear, then a Maryland state licensed pilot, who makes $400,000 a year, caused the grounding. However, the Capitan of the ship is ultimately responsible as he has the authority to countermand a pilots orders if they endanger the ships or crew.
What you say is true but doesn't account for the multiple storms that have plagued the East Coast this year. These will reshape the navigable channel between dredgings by building up sand/mud bars.
I know of a pilot, (recently retired,) don’t think he was making anything dear to the 400K. He was piloting navy ships, so that might make a difference..I really don’t know.
There is a reconstruction based on AIS data, it looks like they made no attempt at turning when there was a turn in the channel.
New name "EverStuck"
Thanx Chief for providing an update. The Chesapeake Bay is as tricky as most channels and inlets can be. These giant ships have no room for error in any harbor. Hopefully this ship won’t suffer any damage. The salvage operation will be interesting to watch.
No matter how idiot proof they make modern navigation with all of the gps and electronic devices, it seems the lowest common denominator is always the helmsman and captain running the bridge.
I really never thought I'd like these type of videos. I happened upon your videos about a year ago and you got me hooked. You do a really good job at explaining things and I thoroughly enjoy them!! Thankyou sir!!
They may as well leave it take off all the containers and plant some trees, the Eco friendly ship totally unironic name. it's perfect for todays PR and the launch of our new ship, the Ever Grounded; dont read into it nothing to see here.
Do these type ships, get insurance on a per trip basis, or is the vessel insured on an annual rate or some such? How do incidents, such as the Ever Grand, and Ever Forward effect the insuring of this class of ships?
The way vessel owners insure there vessels, varies per shipping line. I'm not sure to be honest, how these incidents, such as with the Ever Grande and Ever Forward, effect the insuring of this class of ships. From my understanding, a local pilot was in charge of Ever Forward when it ran aground. The vessel itself will be insured and so will the goods but there are many exceptions in place that shift responsibility to the actual cargo owners. Some of the cargo owners who have goods on board Ever Forward will have plenty of reason to be worried, especially if they have not insured their shipment or haven't arranged for proper insurance. Under Marine Law, the cargo owners who don't have insurance, will be liable for the economic damages caused by the vessel running aground. There is a complex formula in place to calculate how much each shipper must pay (before goods are ultimately released to them or their client). A shipper who has a small shipment worth only several thousand dollars on board Ever Forward, can still end up with a big unexpected bill to pay, that exceeds the value of the goods big time. Abandoning the shipment to avoid paying the bill, is often not the solution since the claim will remain intact.
@@HorstTampert Thanks for responding!
I somehow knew there wouldn't be a simple answer. Anyway, I hope they get the ship free and on its way in short order. Thanks again.
@@darkdelta You're welcome! I also hope they get the ship free and on its way in short order. Take care, best wishes.
The ability to declare general average like they did with ever given is a huge loophole to shift the financial burden for their screw-ups onto the shippers. It seems pretty backwards since they have no input on the operation of the vessel. Like if you ordered something from Amazon and they wanted you to chip in because the delivery driver they hired crashed his van into a street light. I think its a relic from the days when any voyage across the ocean was a long, arduous, and risky endeavor.
Chief, Evergreen Marine seems to have a large and varied fleet portfolio so you may get a few videos a year from them alone.
Always good to see a professional contributing to the topic. Thanks Chief.
How in the hell do these captains get their mariner licence. It amazes me that they let this kind of thing happen, even with today's technology it SHOULD NOT EVER HAPPEN!!!>.... There needs to be an inquiry as to why this is happening with this company and what the hell were the skippers or first mate's even doing at the time of the incident.. this is beyond a joke... they should lose their licence full stop! I know how hard it was for me to get my Coxswains licence and yet these idiots let this shit happen.. disgraceful.
i have a lot of question on the sea worthyness of the design as to how easily it is affectef by wind.
The capacity of the engines for manovering.
And the compentancy of its crew and navigators.
Looking foward to hearing the results of the findings
No issues of wind, there was a turn in the channel and based on AIS data it looks like no attempt was made to turn.
THANK you for the insight.
This is literally 30 miles from my location. I'd been hearing about it in local news but they don't give any specifics. Many thanks, enjoy there channel. 👍👍
Chief MAKOi, as chief engineer, what would you be directing the department to do after a grounding? Would you have to take any actions regarding the sea chest aka salt water inlet system?
PS - thanks for the insightful video.
Good question, guy! Grounded over mud must cause blockage in the salt water system and overheating the diesel generators and others vital equipments.
In this case it appears only the forward was grounded. The sea water suction ports are located aft so there's not much danger of losing the SW cooling. And while within shallow water, the sea chest uses the high suction port.
Start looking for new jobs in another industry
Hi sir love you from india.
I want you make a proper video on anchoring process.
Thanks Chief. Stay safe and stay afloat. 🙏
i worked at the Evergreen packaging facility for a year installing new fiber lines for them... their management was insanely inept
Ever Forward isn't the sister ship of Ever Given. It's an entire different class of ship.
Im beginning to think this is on purpose! What better way to keep markets unstable and inflation high!!
Maybe the company needs some refresher courses for pilots, navigators and Captains called "How to deal with weather, stay in your lane and not ground the ship costing us millions."
It's not Evergreen's job to train pilots: they're port employees, not shipping company employees.
@@beeble2003 as captain of the ship, it's ultimately their responsibility pilot or no pilot.
@@dholmes3307 In theory, yes. In practice, no. The whole reason that the pilot is on board is because they are better at doing the specific job of navigating near ports than the ship's crew. In theory, it's the captain's fault if he "lets the pilot crash his ship" but, in practice, it doesn't work like that. The whole reason for having the pilot on board is that the captain doesn't have enough knowledge of the location to know when the pilot is doing something wrong, unless it's seriously wrong.
And, in any case, the point I was addressing was your claim that Evergreen might need to do more pilot training. That is simply not true. It's like saying that a professional sports club needs to do more referee training.
Beeble is correct
Their next ship needs to be called the EVER GROUNDED...
You mentioned lightening the ship by removing some of the containers on _Ever Forward._ Do container ships have cranes of their own to do that, or will they need a barge with a crane on it or something to do the lightening?
Generally only bulk carriers have their own cranes. I've never seen a container ship that can self load since generally if it's in a container, its going from a port with the infrastructure to support those container movements.
Barge with a crane.
Some smaller container ships have cranes, but not ships of that size.
Thanks for asking this, I was genuinely interested in the same thing
Sal's TH-cam channel "Whats going on with shipping" covers this part and the difficulty of the salvage of this ship and is a very good source of marine information regarding the supply chain and incidents.
He is a former merchant mariner and one that has some ties to the paperwork side of shipping so he can talk a little about the muddy side we never get to see.
Don't these companies train people anymore or they are bean counting every damn penny or peso and cost cutting except the perks and bonus of the upper company executives
Depth of channel - 6.5 m, draught - 11 m , even a critical navigational error could not have lead to such an incident. This could have been a blackout or definitely an issue with the steering gear
No, the 6.4m is the average depth of the bay, not the channel. 2:26
@@TonyRule And that average includes vast amounts of very shallow water close to the shore.
@@TonyRule Thanks for correcting, still it doesn't make sense since it's still a no go area. With Pilot onboard, it definitely seems to be a technical issue rather than navigational.
@@arifrules1 There was a turn in the channel and based on AIS data it doesn't look like an attempt at a turn was happening.
Evergreen should put 4 wheels drive on their ships, they look to like do somme off seariding!
Maybe, just maybe, people should just admit that ships can't continue getting bigger, and stop destroying seafloor by digging ever bigger shipping channels. Especially when the cargo is in multimodal containers, which can be handled pretty much anywhere (provided that the berthed ships are protected against big waves), with a rail spur connecting the quay to the rest of the harbor.
No one else is curious why this guy is wearing a bulletproof vest on TH-cam? 😎
So after a couple hundred years they don't know where the mud is.
Got it.
Evergreen is trying to establish a tradition!
I am looking forward to the 2023 beaching! It should be equally epic!
Insurance will be trough the roof for evergreen.
You build it local there is no need for oversized cargo ships this goes for all countries
Insurance companies typically raise premiums following a substantial claim, so this will likely affect insurance premiums for large container vessels or for Evergreen vessels.
And every other Shipping Company. Which means higher prices for you!
Hi chief. I notice at 4:15 you can see the Plimsoll line. Is that stll actively checked or more a throwback perhaps now largely surpassed by something more high tech to track overloading?
It's still checked.
Great explanation chief. Thanks ;-))
Don’t know much about ships but channel “what’s going on with shipping” showed it missed the turn and hit the mud at 13 knots. How many tonnes is it? . Might be there a while.
Lightening, not lightning.
Building vessels bigger without thinking on the passageways they are required to traverse. Just a disaster waiting to happen to begin with. Ranks with the movie Idiocracy.
The ship made it into the harbor fully loaded, but gets stuck when leaving lightly loaded. That happens by leaving the channel. Obviously the channel was deep enough as the vessel made the trip a few weeks prior.
Ever Forward should have tried going astern.
EVERGREEN, we NEVER GIVEN up, for Ever Forward!!!
Pilot !!! What is he good for .... absolutely !
Wouldn't this also have to do with shippers falsifying weight of their cargo being shipped. Claiming less than true weight
Seriously? Half the containers are empty and the ship floated fine until it left the channel.
Your reporting is awesome! Thanks, Chief!
Happy Saturday Chief; how has the war in Ukraine effect shipping right now
Ever Forward is not a sister ship of Ever Given..theyre cousins as Ever Given is in the G class where Ever Forward is in the F class of Evergreens,And please this incident isnt related to the Ever Given fiasco its just another grounded vessel,Good luck refloating this one...americans☘️😂😂
Sister, cousin, if they get stuck, it doesn't really matter to the step-brother. 😂