Suffer the Little Children Podcast - Episode 49: Quortney Kley
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- On February 25, 1997, 23-year-old Cayce Williams entered the emergency room at St. Joseph’s Hospital in Elgin, Illinois, carrying the lifeless body of his girlfriend’s 20-month-old daughter, Quortney Kley. Medical staff immediately called police, who arrested Cayce the same evening. Cayce was charged with several felony counts of murder, as well as predatory criminal sexual assault.
Nine long years later, Cayce Williams accepted a plea agreement and was sentenced to 48 years in Illinois state prison. Due to a change in Illinois law, however, he was only required to serve 24 of those years behind bars. Now, he is scheduled to be released from the Dixon Correctional Center two weeks from this episode’s release date.
In this episode, you’ll hear my conversation with Quortney’s mom, Gretta, in which we talk about her beloved, stubborn, sassy baby girl whose rapist and murderer is preparing to walk free from prison on February 25.
This is the mind-boggling story of Quortney Kley.
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How did he survive all those years in prison without getting killed ? Where's good old prison justice when you need if? He and his father are disgusting.
His dad is a a piece of work
I was not ready for this one. I am so so sorry, baby girl.
Just looking at her beautiful little face and the cutest smile ever, it’s hard to think of what her own father did to her. He shouldn’t ever even have the slightest chance at freedom. It’s like pointing a loaded gun at every child, just waiting for it to fire. It’s also a disgrace to Quortney’s memory.
My heart goes out to the mom...I can't even imagine the torture she lives through all day, every day. No one should "shoulda coulda woulda" the mother of an infant rape victim that was killed in the process of their assault. Literally no one could have expected that from another human.
Sorry but why the fuck is he being released!!!! He should b in forever
EXACTLY my thoughts. How??????? And furthermore it baffles me to my core that someone with a marijuana charge will spend less time locked up than these worthless inhuman pieces of fucking dog shit.
I was the victim of sexual assault when I was 6 years old and it lasted for 6 years, until i was almost 13. After it came to light my mom didn't make me testify against him in court at the risk of further traumatizing me by having to tell my story in front of everyone. As a result of me not testifying he got 5 years in jail. He got out after 3 for "good behavior". Our justice system is beyond incompetent.
Sounds like we might need to band together and find him to... um...take care of the issue. These creeps don’t change.
Cayce's dad says "It seems to me that there is something stupid everywhere I go..." LMAO!
Right? Seems there's a common thread... lol!
The dad sounds like he’s been using something that’s pickled his brain! What amused me about the thoughts he rattled off are mute! His being a convicted felon prohibits him from voting....
@@arcticfox7153 They most certainly can vote www.jobsforfelonshub.com/rights/illinois/ According to the Brennan Center for Justice site, felons in Illinois automatically regain their right to vote when they have been released from prison. They can also vote if they are on parole or probation.
@@winniethepoohandeeyore2 Oh wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing that info.
That guy sounded absolutely hammered lol. He also sounded like a monumental dolt. Good lord that dribble was hard to listen to.
I can't even imagine living with the knowledge that this happened to your child. My brother died at 17 in a car accident. As hard as it still is to deal with my mom says to me one in a while when something is in the news like this that she is thankful that his life ended the way it did, rather than some of these other things that happen to kids and having to live with that. I have to give props to parents who dont crawl into a hole (or are able to pull themselves out of it) and push through it. People always say it gets better - it doesn't, you just learn to live with it.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Emily.
P.S. - I know several other people have commented this on a number of your other videos, but I find it very difficult to hit the like button on any of your videos because of the content of them. I do still hit the thumbs up and comment because i want to boost the algorithm in hopes of it bumping up your vids on people's suggested because it is extremely important for as many people as possible to see/hear these precious baby's stories and become aware of the alarmingly common heinous acts against these poor innocent angels. Thank you again for your vigilance in bringing awareness to these victims. You are an AMAZING soul.
Thank you so much, Desire!
I know exactly what you mean me too 😢
Everybody knows you're not hitting the like button saying that this is a good episode of someone's childhood murdered it's just that we all know it helps the person putting it out there so please save the drama and hit the like button
I agree
Thanks for the tidbit about the moms. I hold my mother accountable for a lot, but I don't blame her for anything. There was a lot she legitimately didnt know, and she was a victim too.
I try to have the same grace with my own parents. Thanks for the reminder
I have vowed never to date until my children are grown. PERIOD!!!!! Not worth it.
This is one story where i am a little torn. I cant say i think the mom was negligent. However, she had left once because he had slapped her daughtee across the face, and she was trying to leave again because things were rough. Just really not sure how she felt ok leaving the kids alone with him.
I think being young and maybe a little too trusting had a lot to do with it. Plus, the fact that Cayce's father, Michael, coerced and manipulated Gretta into taking Cayce back probably had her mind twisted in knots.
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That father was a piece of work, wasn’t he? Christ, he’s harassing the entire legal system because his kid was convicted of raping and killing a baby. I have no idea what that man’s proclivities are, but given how defensive he is of his scumbag son, his conduct in general, and the fact that his son learned this proclivity from somewhere, it makes me wonder very strongly whether or not pops was a pedophile.
When narcississsissstic drunk dads of baby rapists/murderers have no filter. Monsters are made.
This case can be turned a million different ways but I will never see things as the mothers fault. Even factoring in the slap, that’s an incredibly long way from rape and murder. So sorry for your loss Gretta, I can’t imagine your pain.
I do agree with this
A question, was this the only instance of abuse? And as teacher I know I'm not a psychologist but any child development person will recommendations not to let the boyfriend/girlfriend or even a stepparent make rules or discipline your child. That's your responsibility and the other birth parent if they are involved. Not your partner's right
This was the only time Gretta had seen any signs of Cayce abusing the girls, other than the one instance she mentioned in the episode. I don't think it was a matter of discipline; from what Cayce told the police, it doesn't sound like Quortney was misbehaving. He just decided to rape her and kick her in the head. It's too horrifying to think about for long. :(
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast omg it is beyond horrifying!
You are so very right. I don’t think anyone but a true parent make rules for there children and by no means be punished by a stepparent. I just cannot get this story off my mind. I have a daughter who turned 25 in Nov. this little baby girl was 6 months younger then mine. Hope you have a wonderful evening.
Not trying to start an argument or anything, but let me say this... I am an "step parent" . He has called me mommy since i came into his life at 3 years old. His father and I also share a child. He works 3rd shift and I am a stay at home mom. I am in charge of my children and their day to day life. I have been for a long time.
However, my "step" son, is my first born, my baby, my world! I understand the fear of new s/os in your life and that of your family, but we aren't all baby killers. His mom is rarely in the picture, but he knows he has 2 moms and that I will love him no matter what! He knows he is my baby and that we work hard to make sure they are both healthy and happy!
Speaking for the "stepped up " parents, we love our kids and would never do anything to hurt them!
Pedophiles target mothers with children sometimes. This man should not get out of prison. Clearly he’s a psychopath, otherwise there is no way he could have done this. It’s horrific and I’m really shocked he’s now a danger to other children.
Your brilliant, thank you for sticking up for little children 😢😢😢😢😢x
Thank you for giving a voice to these innocent children. It is a parents responsibility to protect and make the BEST decisions in regards to the wellbeing of their children above all else. Having random people left alone with young kids that cant even speak for themselves is the worst and most selfish decision these parents make. Smh. Something has to be said.
Oof that made me nauseous....poor baby girl....I'm so sorry this happened to you
Thank you for doing these xx
I am so sorry rest in peace baby Courtney
Grrr... Unbelievable!! That poor heartbroken family
I can't believe he is getting out!
He should have never been released. I don’t know these people the little baby’s mom and daddy but I read a story about the baby’s mother had moved away from where they lived and is now afraid to go to the cemetery because she’s afraid of the guy. Where I’m from down here in the south she would not have to be afraid to go it would be the bastard that killed her that would live in fear and would have good reason. This story has really got my attention on how some get executed for lesser then what he done is beyond me. I’m not being rude and I’m not making a threat to know one but if that was my baby he would have never left the courtroom in feet. Have a wonderful evening.
I take your point about victim blaming, Laine, but I think it can sometimes stem from an underlying fear of our own vulnerability.
We like to tell ourselves that WE could never be raped, beaten by a partner, conned by a romance scammer, lose touch with our own children. So we criticise the victims, and their failures and weaknesses, in order to set ourselves apart and make ourselves feel safer.
That’s how I see it, anyway.
I completely agree! No doubt I've done the same thing in the past. I'm just hoping that pointing it out helps some people behave more empathetically.
That baby was sooooo cute I’m so sad I love when her mom describes everything she said about her so sad 😔
Just completely unreal.. So heartbreaking. I want this fucking guy! I'm a pissed off, knife-toting grandma with plenty of time on my hands!
Darlisa Taylor 👏👏this is the best comment ever,I just lost my Nan,she adored kids,doted on my son and omg if I told him no you’d better believe she’d come for me!!lol miss her so much ,this case broke my heart ,wat a pos he should only be released to u ever!!🇬🇧💔😞🙏
@@joeakaprolifik7735 Thank you love. Your Nan sounds wonderful.
@@darlisataylor2764 she was ty and you sound like a peach!!take care hun 🙏💖🇬🇧
I was blamed for my sweet 20 month old daughter Ashleys death. I was at work, when he dropped my daughter off the roof of our house. My baby girl was murdered by her father, and he is Scott free, while my daughter lays in an unmarked grave, thousands of miles away from me. With her younger sisters ashes at her feet. Her death five months prior, due to a birth defect. I lost my two girls five months apart. Was told my CPS not to bother praying for my daughter because she's gonna die anyways. I was 19 years old, working to take care of my daughter. I left her with her grandfather, grandmother, young uncle, aunt and Father. My dad, her grandfather decided to go grocery shopping, yet my daughters farther wouldn't let her go with my parents. It was the one day I didn't tell my daughter I loved her, the one day of her LIFE! She was my universe. And she was stolen away from me. Dropped from the roof of our house into lake apopka.... My Ashley was my life. I got slammed shamed and blamed, when I was doing what every loving parent does, work to provide for my child. Whom was my world. It's been 26 long years. I have a daughter, Ashley's younger sister. It's hard to look at her, and not wonder what their relationship would be like, who she would be. God has given me my rainbow baby, my Clarrissa. And my daughter gave me three beautiful grandsons. But that loss of my girls is present, every day, every second of my life. The pain never goes away
You just learn to life with this gaping whole in your heart.
How awful. I'm so sorry. I have to believe he will somehow suffer for what he did
Oh my gosh I'm so sorry :( Have you ever considered your story being covered here about Ashley?
That's horrific 😢 I am so sorry your daughter was murdered like that by her own father! He shouldn't be free that's for sure, I genuinely hope he sees that every single day, that he is never free mentally from what he did, robbing her and you from her growing up 💔 it's just even more sad knowing you lost your other daughter so close 😢😔💜💜 I think you're right I don't think you ever get rid of the pain when you lose a child let alone losing 2 children, especially when one has been murderered like that out of nowhere 💔 have you ever thought about telling your story? I can get it if you just wouldn't want to repeat it I am not sure if I could if it was me, part of me would want to but I just don't know if I could manage it, I know everyone is different though that sometimes it can feel therapeutic in some way, I am sure this channel would like to know your story as they cover these kinds of horrific deaths! You are such a strong human being honestly 😢💔
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they always blame the mother. If the father does it, the mother should have known. If the mother does it, the father gets sympathy
What the actual fk?! How can any judge or american court allow this rapist killer walk free. At any point in his worthless life
the fact this monster is getting out of prison to live his life, is absurd to say the least. This proves to me that this world has lost the ability to see and value our children the way they should be. I have found that when people do horrible things to children, its not taken to the serious extent I feel it should be. I feel there has to be changes to the sentences for those who hurt and kill children, like say, you take a life, you give your life, whether in prison or death penalty, this has t stop, these are our most precious of gifts we need to protect and cherish.
My heart breaks for mom
He wouldn’t have made it to the courtroom if that was my baby. I don’t know how any one can live with there selves knowing they done this. I’m in no way blaming anyone but the bastard that killed this beautiful baby. I feel for her mom and her dad. She is about 6 months younger then my daughter who turned 25 in November. I love my baby girl and her dad thought the sun sit and rose on her he passed when she was 17. This guy should have never been released from prison and I just don’t understand they put people to death for lesser then this but they let him out in 24 yrs what is wrong with this story. The courts need to all go together and what’s in one state should be in all. A child was murdered and it only costed the murderer 24 yrs in prison I can’t say what I really won’t to cause I just can’t wrap my mind around this. God Bless.
Thank you for the empathy you hold for people
The fact that this sicko would ever be released is a travesty. There are many things I'd like to say, but most of them would probably land me on some sort of watchlist.
No foh .... 2 years she was with him not longer enough to bring him around her precious child .....way too soon
Again, it's easy to judge people after the fact, but at this point, it's not necessary.
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast yes it is necessary so other ppl can stop and think before they abuse a child.....we are talking about children correct ??? Stop sticking up for evil
@@nadinefigueroa523 Gretta is hardly evil! I hope you're able to look deep inside and find some empathy. Of course Quortney is the victim here. She was utterly innocent, and yes, her mother's choices contributed to her death, but that does not make Gretta a bad person; it makes her a bereaved mother who made a few terrible choices when she was young and has lived to regret those choices for 24 years.
If a parent abandons their child, then they are at fault. You don’t get to abandon a child, and then say it’s not my problem. Situations like this, there’s always red flags. Men that do this don’t just do it out of nowhere. No excuses! I am a mother of two children, and I’ve never had my child abused or killed because I don’t put them in those situations. The only victim is the child. It’d be one thing if a mother was fighting to see her child and something happened that’s different. This is not that situation.
He should have only been out of prison when Quortney came out of the grave
The grandfather sounded drunk
Good for her on throwing out all his belongings!
I am appalled that anyone even considered letting this murderer out of prison. Quortney sure didn’t get a chance at a life. His father is equally disgusting. Boy, them living together just screams something to me…. I can’t put it in here or my comment will be removed. Let’s just say those two are a terrible combination.
Prove that it’s going to the Children
Sorry, Kim - what do you mean?
It is absolutely ridiculous that took nine years. He is scum, but I also believe that people have a right to a speedy and fair trial. Think about if he was actually innocent and had to wait nine years in jail.
Thank you for the disclaimer. People like this never realize they’re suffering the hindsight fallacy. Of course you’d know what to do. You know the story already. And the most infuriating thing is how smug this perceived “ability” makes some people, when they’re actually literally just repeating the lessons learned in hindsight and mistaking that repetition for some kind of personal superiority. It’s ridiculous.
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I think that people victim blame because that means it "can't happen to me because.." a form of denial to provide false comfort.
😢 I am so sorry about your little baby girl men are so evil out here. I guess the devil just came around. You know that's all I could think of hopefully. Hopefully gotta see what he did. And God will take care of him for you. There aint much you can do. You gotta putt in God's hands or everybody I have their day.😮❤
Poor baby Quortney. I hate to think what this baby went through. I just hate her poor momma has to live without her because she was trying to provide for her and trusted someone that she knew well. This man should not be out of prison a baby is dead and he killed her.
17:30 Casey found God. 🤔🤔 (I Didn't know He was missing) Gotta respect that "prison religion". *100% sarcasm*
And she dont know what the charges were ??? Are you kidding me
I will never understand anyone looking at a small child/toddler/infant and getting the least bit aroused or feel inclined to sexually assault them. I don't care, you can never convince me that it's an orientation or that there's anything acceptable or innocent about it. Children's minds cannot process what's happening, their bodies can't handle it, it permanently damages them if it doesn't kill them. People that victimize children deserve the same punishment as someone that commits murder, period.
How that man could be released and how his family dared to fight for his release is beyond me. I don't care if you're my father, brother, child - you do this to a child and you're staying in jail where you belong. The nerve of them to come at Greta and her family, lowlifes of the highest degree. Rot in hell to everyone that contributed to this man's freedom or victim blamed the mother, you're disgusting.
And that town meeting he's speaking at, he's clearly intoxicated. As a felon, I thought you lose your rights to vote?
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I love you videos... one thing I would like to see or hear is more about children of other races. I believe their voices need to be heard as well. Thank you for all the work you do though I will become a patron soon
Hi, Kim! If you go back through my past episodes, I think you'll see I cover lots of kids from different backgrounds and ethnicities. :)
Michael sounds like a peach 🙄
Should have put him in GP and accidentally let slip to other prisoners what he was in for. Problem solved with prison justice.
If only! Unfortunately, he was in Dixon, where there's apparently a whole pod of violent sex offenders. They don't mess with their own.
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast you're right. It's like that in a lot of prisons and while they will sometimes go after a child predator it's not as common as you think. If it does happen the aggressor will be charged with a hate crime.
@Suffer the Little Children Podcast I can only imagine what kind of pond scum has to walk into the prison system to make the child predators feel superior. Ugh
Im with you!And if theres THAT many pedos in one county--then WHAT the FUCK is going on there???!!!!!!!Inbreeding.??
OK so will the good people of Crystal Lake do something to carry out true justice? 🥰 Just wondering 😌
The man’s address is out there. I’ve seen it. And I’m sure they will.
360 briarwood drive crystal lake 60014
He moved from that house which was right down the street from an army co worker to englewood
So scary that he was released. Who is to say he will not hurt another innocent child?
Thank you for what you do! I know it can’t be easy, but these babies need their stories heard!
THIS 😕💜 HOW WAS THAT RELEASED?! like why and how? Who does that stuff out of nowhere? The guys a pedophile and he will always be a risk and its beyond sad that that poor baby will never grow up, he shouldn't of been released ever 💔
I love your program and the way you research so throughly is impressive if I had to pick a fault though would be your intros which are incredibly long, after a while my attention is lost. However, you are making a difference and that's the whole point so Thankyou for telling these angels stories xx
Nancy, I really appreciate the constructive criticism! I tried to keep the intro to this week's episode (#51) shorter! :)
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@@lilpinksliplee7310 my understanding from recent content providers is that TH-cam recently updated it’s algorithm to give more weight to comments as opposed to 👍. The more people comment and interact on any video the more it will be promoted. Not that 👍 does not help. It’s why more people are trying to make their content more interactive through out.
360 briarwood drive crystal lake 60014
Sad to see people blaming Greta in the comments. She holds as much responsibility for this crime as a victim of burglary does for leaving their front door unlocked. Should she have locked the door? Of course! But we're human. We forget things. We make errors in judgement. But ultimately, the fault lays with the person who committed the crime.
Michael sounds just like Frank Gallagher from Shameless in that immigration speech
Lol that's exactly who I thought of! I was like he's Frank 😅
How can there be such evil in this world? It is so hard to be a parent and let your kids go ANYWHERE knowing these evil monsters exist. That poor baby girl.
The point of forgiveness has very little to do with the abuser, it is more about the victims. You forgive the abusers so that you (the victim) may be free of the poison that is eating away at your life and your relationships. It is so hard to do, but you know when you have reached that point because you realise the abuser is just a stain in your past. You can think about the victim with the joy and love that they deserve, instead of always in the context of the abuser.
Amen!
There are some crappy mother’s and we’ve heard about them but in the case of Max and similar cases truly do not believe those mothers ever in their wildest dreams believed that the fathers would do that. She is suffering
Too true
I never blame Max's mother. His father kept him away from her with the help of the system and it's not like she knew he was being abused😢💔💔
Im at home on a medical leave of absence catching up on all these..thank you for having compassion and being a voice for these babies!
Someone get Michael another drink and sit his ass down
I went thru a somewhat similar situation. My ex husband is serving 22.5 years in prison for sexually abusing our 12 year old daughter and then physically assaulting our 14 year old son, who has autism, when he tried to stop him. I worked nights, when the abuse happened. I was also abused by ex husband. Ex husband was manipulative and his parents were horrible to me and kids. They were upset, since their other son was also in prison for the same things to his own kids. After my ex was sentenced, his parents became horrible. My kids and I ended up moving 300 miles away from then because of how they treated us. They blamed me, saying I didn't do enough for ex and they felt he turned to daughter for what he wanted. They blamed our daughter, mind you a 12 year old, for his actions. Both kids and I have dealt with PTSD over the past 9 years. Ex has to register as a sex offender upon his release and he can't ever have contact with me or kids once he gets out. I still fear the day he is released. As sad as this sounds, I hope he gets out of prison the way his older brother did, thru a body bag.
All these cases from illinois Shame on my state. Thank u for your work illinois and the world need more inspirations like u. Rest in peace angel baby fly high!🙏
No. If someone slaps a child & you let them back in. That's on you. A child wanders outside the home, ditto. You can't randomly choose whose bad decisions you support & those you don't.
Exactly. People have way too much empathy for people who leave their children in danger. The whole "you can't blame her AT ALL you don't know what you'd do," is a crock. My family abused me growing up and I've never left my kids with them because I know they're dangerous people. That's what you do in that situation.
My mom slapped me and i forgive her. She never raped me
Community should organize a picket line in front of 360 Briarwood
In the best news I've heard all day, he was forced to move to Chicago! I'll be covering the recent updates in a minisode I hope to get out by this weekend!
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast Thank you for this update! I live in Crystal Lake
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast Still sad for the residents anywhere he lives. Prison was the best place for him.
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Omg! The nerve of this monster! Oh how he suffered in county jail.. vomit inducing!
He was released. He’s out just walking around. He refers to what he did as an “accident”.
These stories are so horrific...poor sweet angel. I hope she is now at peace.
Holy shit this was just vile. Who just decides to that?! Like genuinely I wasn't expecting that I actually shouted out loud what the hell?! Ugh I hope he gets his now he's not in prison! Please someone just deal with this monster 🤢🙏💔
I don't get they people who either slap or punch a child, like that hurts a full grown adult let alone a child. So horrific, like that shocked me and I am usually desensitised with R and child abuse cases but that shocked me. This guy is an unbelievable what a sicko.
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It's crazy to me how messed up the child protection and family court people can be. I ended a marriage with a man who was emotionally and verbally abusive, but it had recently escalated to physical. That's when I started making plans. I don't understand why we don't have better resources to help people fleeing abuse. A few days before I intended to try to have him removed from the home, he slapped our then 2 year old across the face. This was a 6'6" 240lb man. It horrified me and I had him arrested. He was convicted but he just got unsupervised probation. Months later I began to get very sick. The court decided my children were better off with the convicted child abuser than the chronically ill mother. Their reasoning was that he had more family support than I did. And I hear all these stories where children are left in deplorable situations. Meanwhile others are taken from homes in which they were thriving.
My mom had to leave to America and my father had rights to me. He stole me out of the kindergarten's play tossed me in the taxi without a shoe. He was so blacked out drunk that he passed out walking to his place. My brother and grandma(moms mom) calling the cops. Because he was my father he had the right to take me. At some point of the night he woke up and we walked to his place. My grandma (his mom) got so shook to see me coming home so late. The first thing she did waa call my family to let them know im safe. My brother was a teenager and my grandma was sick. No one was to blame except my dad. And kidnapping me was just a pay back to a teenager for kickking him out due to violence under influence of alcohol. I got to see him a few times after when i was bigger and able to make choices. He blames my mom for everything and lied to me just to seem better. It was so crazy i knew things were lies but his violence still scared me where i never announced my concerns with his words.
I'll say a prayer for her. I know she's gonna have an already. Buthat God bless the children, God bless him.❤❤❤
It's so weird to say but his father sound just like Homer Simpson a goof I feel so bad for that mother and her family to go through that nine years I can't even fathom going through that😢❤
Sorry, but that solo violin over the grievances filed by that animals father… 🤣🤣👌🏼
That Micheal guy sounds like Howard Stern and is so very narcissistic
Im glad you did an older story. Can you look into Latanisha Carmichael?
Precious Quortney, I didn't know you but Heaven knows I wish I could have saved you!! I was abused as a child and that was bad and painful enough so I can only imagine how much this baby girl suffered! Sweet baby, I truly would go through my abuse all over again if I could somehow prevent abuse and death from happening to you or some other child! Rest in peace with Jesus angel baby...
OMG😮 He has a sick and deviant mind. So 😢for that 🐥.
Illinois and California same shit
27:47 this guy sounds wasted AF
Erica Green or “Precious Doe”
I just found your channel and I'm sad that I have to stop listening after you admit you are a "metoo" person.
You don't have to, you're choosing to. Seems an odd stance for you to take on an episode about baby rape.
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To your reminder about victim blaming:
Yes! And of narcissistic abusers can easily manipulate the appearance of a situation. They will do all these things in private so when they mashes a seemingly innocent comment in public, the victim reacts and the narcissist is like "see? They're overreacting! This is what I live with."
I still struggle with judging mothers who knew and (seemingly) did nothing, but I'm working on that flaw in myself. We don't know all the details with them
Also. On the topic of leaving your children with your partner.
Chances are you know that partner better than you know a babysitter. Or at least you think you do. You've dated and spent time and talked with them.
Babysitters often you meet shortly before and leave your child with them.
Every time I babysat, I would get a call, spend 10-15 minutes on the phone, talk about my qualifications, then show up a few minutes early to make that transition easy for the kids.
Only one family knew me before hand.
Everyone else trusted me with their kids knowing me less than an hour.
I totally agree! I babysat for countless children when I was barely more than a child myself, and nobody ever questioned it. Even when I was in my later teens, there wasn't much discussion about my background or qualifications. It's easy to get lulled into that place of trust by a partner who knows exactly what to say and do.
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I did too. Luckily I believe I was a competent sitter. No kid went hungry, got yelled at, or suffered more than a scraped knee under my care. But the sitter’s safety is also a concern. I had one parent drive me home while they were drunk. Another one hit on me.
I love the idea of young teens being industrious and practicing responsibility. But this can be a dangerous way to do it for all the kids involved.
I do not struggle with this at all. But I’m proud of you for being aware of it and taking steps to look at things more objectively and critically. That makes you more intelligent and kind than a lot of people.
Edit: and I love your cat! I have a black cat too, named Yelly. She has a weird personality and I love it.
@@BeckBeckGo This chonky void is named Ciaran and he has the tiniest meow most of the time
Thank you for these incredibly difficult tragic experiences of the most innocent...I appreciate how difficult it must be to cover these children's deaths. God bless you!
Love the creepy music...very fitting!
You’re from Alberta? I’m from south of Calgary. 🇨🇦❤️
I'm from east of Edmonton!
It’s so nice to know you’re a fellow Albertan. ❤️
WTF was that so called “confession” he was supposedly presenting.
My lord you drone on and on and on and on and on…I finally had to stop listening.
Not sure the woods I’m long for. But wow. Very annoying and grating on my patience
You ok?
I've seen cases where the mother was "in on it" or "allowed it to happen." Quortney's mother doesn't even remotely read as that situation. Forcing her to plead guilty to "insufficient daycare" was so disgusting & unnecessary. Cayce was a grown man, in a long-term relationship, who lived with Gretta & had no record of violence on file. Was he supposed to have a childcare diploma or some bs? Does every teenager, auntie or cousin who babysits part-time? It's victim blaming to the core.
I love your work and never miss an episode. Imo i feel you should leave things alone like the Marilyn Manson saga. We dont know whats really going on. Like look what happened with Johnny Depp. Plus there have been atleast 2 wellness checks or Manson. Jenna Jameson said one thing in her book and now something different Rose McGowan said 2 different stories also. Yeah i dont agree with victim blaming just like i dont agree with victim assuming when the entire thing is based of hearsay and celebrity world. You are going to lose support if you keep doing this
As someone who spent nearly two decades in an abusive relationship, I support victims unless proven otherwise, especially when their testimony is 1) credible and 2) delivered in front of Congress. Also, this just happened: www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-02-19/marilyn-manson-target-of-sheriffs-domestic-abuse-investigation
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast ill feel sorry for a victim when all facts are laid out. Too many people lie especially in the celebrity world
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast and that article only says there is an investigation and also mentions that the first investigation was closed because they couldnt prove anything.
@@cassandrapoole4604 It's hard to prove domestic abuse, especially when it's not necessarily physical, which is why it's so rarely reported.
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast just saying at this point its hearsay. How would you feel if it was someone else that you already formed an opinion on and they end up killing themselves just to be found innocent. Under investigation because there isnt and physical evidence. Back to Manson the police keep doing welfare checks on him for fear of suicide. The celebrity world is filled with smoke and mirrors. Which will always lead you teetering on conspiracy
Especially in Las Vegas. If someone beats you, BOTH of you get arrested. No abuse victim ends up calling the cops because we don’t want a record. YAY SIN CITY!! 😂😂😂
Any mother, especially a single mother in her early adulthood, makes mistakes and many introduce men into the lives of their children too soon. It's just a fact. And anyone who has done this should consider themselves grateful this isn't the outcome. Passing "I'd never" judgement calls is hurtful and cruel because you don't know what you would have done in a situation you were blessed enough to never endure.
My dad is from Raymond, Alberta. Alberta in the house!