My Dad bought a Ranger Commanche 491VS brand new in 1996 for $32000. I thought that was a lot which it was back then. He still has it. It has been a great boat. Rides great in rough water. Looks like that is the first and last new Ranger or any new fiberglass boat I am going to experience. I might be wrong but I don't believe the new over priced Rangers are the same as the Rangers from the days of Forrest Wood.
Everyone should know that boat prices are jacked up at boat shows. Dealers don't even want to sell just a boat, motor and trailer. They all say it comes as a pkg.. Nitro is the worst. They package a Z20 with a 5" graph in console, a 24 volt t.m., 2 bank charger knowing good and well absolutely no one is going to buy it packaged like that and to upgrade is where the money really adds up. More money means more profit, dealer prep, taxes etc...
The smart fool in today's world spends the money of others. I am neither smart enough, or foolish enough, to figure out how that works. Save money, invest money; magic money appears from lending and government handouts to decrease my money's value.
@TheAverageFisherman99 I would not either. That we agree on. But I have also encountered people who leverage their business to buy all kinds of client relationship tools. If it goes South, they fold up and go do the same thing a few years later...magic money.
I bought my Nitro NX882 in 2000 for 26,000$. I still have it. It runs great and I see no reason to pay 120,000 for essentially the same boat now. Ridiculous.
As a side not, I just got my first boat last year. A used $500 1436 Jon. Repaired it for less than $20, Added a 9.8hp motor that is in like-new condition now for $1,300 in total. Added a little less than $1000 worth of aluminum to floor it, front and rear casting deck it, and hatches. Built my own wiring harness for nav lights, stern light, headlights, interior lights, 2 USB charging and one 12V charging port, and more for maybe $100. Got a spanking new 55lb Minnkota Riptide tiller trolling motor for $450. Got the Garmin 94sv UHD2 (side scan) fish finder that I will hardly use but for navigating the shallow salt flats for $1000. Got a spanking new oversized (in case I decide to upgrade) aluminum trailer for $1,600... but sold my pedal drive kayak for $2,100. Then got Millenium B-100 seats and two LiTime batteries (A 100Ah and a 50Ah) from Amazon on the cheap for a black Friday deal. So far, I am at a little over $4k... and am set up for some serious bass, catfish, crappie, and mainly salt flats fishing. I will be painting soon for not much more. My little ones can come with me at times and the son wants to do some camping trips from it. With just me in there... she will do low to mid 20s... and get the same in fuel economy. With the kids and me... she gets a little over 18 mph. Still planes fine... and is too fast to fish from. 😆 I have to shut the motor down. I still don't get why everyone needs to go so fast... when there are so many boat ramps around. I would rather save the money and invest it.
It really is not the cost of a boat hull (per foot) that has increased so dramatically. Boats used to be 16-17' in length with a 150 hp motor, one 6" graph and a 12 volt trolling motor. We now have 22' hulls with 4-5 12"-22" graphs plus FFS, 360 live, power poles, 120 lb. thrust 36 volt trolling motors, power poles, steps on trailers, 17-20" trailer tires, 400 hp outboards, fancy livewell systems, lithium batteries, and the list goes on and on. Brian Latimer has a great video breaking this down.
There’s some misleading info in this video…an absolutely loaded to the gills Phoenix will NOT hit 100k. You can get there if you need a 300R, 6 graphs and seat heaters. A normal tourney bass boat will hit 80k in MO. Thats with a 250, 2 12” graphs and a spotlighter. Shop around.
I've noticed several boat manufacturers are offering special package boats at a lower price. However in most cases they have removed items such as Power poles or substituted cheaper electronics. It's like a dog fight; the boat builders, engine manufacturers take a 3 to 6% annual increase and the electronic and accessory companies add locators and trolling motors that cost a couple hundred dollars to make and market them for thousands. The best way for the consumer to control pricing is to stop buying, The prices will come down when their warehouses start to overflow.
As long as they keep buying them, they will keep increasing the price. Look at the price of lures, the exact lure I purchased several years ago for $2.99 is now $12.00
Of course there is some people buying them but New bass boat sales are down and most of America is struggling as the cost of living has gotten higher. If there is people buying $200,000 boats like Randy claims then it’s a very small percentage and the same for $100,000 boats. No facts around what he is saying and the guy literally lied saying the Economy is good atm like we aren’t all struggling rn. He keeps saying this shit, yet the facts say otherwise.
@@AsianAmerican113 Well not to get political but Randy is a democrat it’s just what he believes. I don’t agree the economy sucks the stock market isn’t a sign of a great economy. Remember when companies lay off stock prices go up strange but facts. Inflation is real and much worse than they admit. My boat is paid for ain’t buying another . The prices for tackle is absurd just glad I have enough to last the rest of my life. I know there are people that pay cash for boats but there are more financed for 12,15,and 20 year loans.
As long as people sign on the line they won't come down. Twenty years on a boat loan is unreal, the finance company knows they have a high chance at getting it back. I sold bass boats in the late 80's and early 90's and the top price for a Champion or a Skeeter hard loaded was around $18k. I could go 120 months on any new boat over $10k. The only 2 questions a majority of buyers asked was: how fast will it go and how low can I get the payments. We got a lot of repo's over the years.Im sure it hasn't changed much
Im running a resto mod 1984 Winner Z880, all new carpet, motor, trolling motor , grafs and i love it, I may end up with $25,000 in it . I can't pay more for my boat than I paid for my house. I think the restoring of older bass boats is going to take off!
I'm fishing out of a 1998 zx202c That I bought new. $26000 I've take very good care of it over the years and just upgraded seats and electronics as needed. Original 200hp vmax still hanging on the back. The boat still looks new. I couldn't fathom giving the kind of money they're asking for these boats now. I always thought when I retired I would spring for a new boat but those plans have changed and I am satisfied with one that's sitting in the garage. I also think the price of new boats are going to cause used boat prices to rise sharply.
I was at bass pro and there are a lot of boats between 15000 and 80000, so it all depends on what you want to spend, then there are lots of used ones on the market for way less
I do different types of fishing. From river fishing for trout, steelhead and salmon, to small mouth, to lake fishing for Bass, Stripers and Crappie. When we were in the Pacific NW I bought a new Hewescraft Pro V hard top 24' fishing boat for $45,000 in 2015. I sold it a few years later since we were moving away from Puget Sound. That same type of boat is now $140,000. It is inconceivable. I am also a pilot. From 2007 to 2014 general aviation aircraft increased in price over 400%. When my wife and I were in the market for an airplane, we looked at a new Cessna 182 and simply could not justify, or afford, the $800,000 price tag (yes, even though I'm a doctor, we could not afford that). We purchased a 1973 Cessna 182 in great condition (cost of it new in 1973 was $17,000), low hours on the airframe, and newer engine, for $106,000. (We drive old cars). The Cessna 182 from 1956 to 2024 is nearly identical as far as airframe. Of course the avionics are more advanced. We ended up several years later needing an engine overhaul. It costs about $5,000 for an overhaul of a similar sized truck engine. The overhaul of the airplane engine cost $62,000. Why? Because they can since a new engine is nearly $100,000. Now the kicker! You think electronics for a boat are expensive? Our older avionics have worn out and we could replace it with similar stuff for $50,000 or all modern digital doo-dads for $100,000. We are going with the newer stuff. Back in the day with a little budgeting and some sacrifice on other items nearly everyone who was a pilot and wanted to could own a small plane. Those days are gone. I wanted a boat since we moved to Upstate SC and I wanted to fish the lakes but already having a plane as a money pit I aimed low. Honestly, I can fish out of any darn thing. We bought a used Tracker Grizzly with a 60HP for $7,000; adequate for my wife and me or a buddy and me to go fishing. I pull it with my 2015 F-150 that has 140,000 miles on it. The boat is not fast, but I can get there and the fish don't know what I'm fishing out of. I do not do tournament fishing. Honestly, not one fish I have caught ever asked me why I don't have a fancy new boat. I cannot justify paying the price of these boats. What these manufacturers of recreational boats and general aviation aircraft do not realize is that eventually, they will price themselves out of existence. I don't even want to get started on housing prices. It is profiteering on the backs of working people. The America of 20-30 years ago is gone and likely will never come back.
The reason this is happening is because the people willing to buy them. If the dealers couldn't sell them at these high prices the prices would go down. Somebody tell these damn dummies to stop buying these marked up boats.
I went to a salt water fishing seminar at a Grady White dealer not long ago. The place was full of off shore boats from $350k to a million. I asked a salesman who buys them. He said wealthy people who pay cash. According to him the only customers who finance are buying boats at or below $100k. So it's not just the bass boats. It's the entire boat industry.
@@CollinBeBassin this past year I bought 3 10’ kayaks, brand new for $1100 from bass pro. I built a wood rack to fit over the bed in my Tacoma truck. 2 ride on top and one rides in bed, everything is secure. All three of us can go, we have walkie talkies to keep in touch on water. Basic kayak and paddle. I wanted all three to be same so it would make hauling easier
I’ve been fishing my whole life. I started kayak fishing in 2005. Stopped for a few years. Bought another kayak fishing 4 years ago. I mainly fish flats and places hard to get to via boat.
I totally agree that boat cost don't make sense,but an 8x8 hot tub,which is actually made the same way as a boat and cost 25k,It's a lot harder to build a glass boat,you can build an aluminium hull 5 times faster,without all the regulations.
I think it’s like the auto industry. They are targeting higher end vehicles, or boats in this case, because they bring in the highest profit. Car companies don’t make cheap cars. Boat companies are probably the same
Randy I just left a dealer where I offered them 108k plus a 2016 Phoenix 919 Pro XP for a Phoenix 920 Elite II. I still owe a little bit on the trade in boat but all I wanted to get in trade was basically the low end NADA value. They wouldn't do the deal. So I am going to purchase the same boat at the same price with the same trade in deal from a dealer that is 2,500 miles away from here. I told the local guy I really wanted to purchase it from him and I even sat down with the owner of the dealership and made it clear to him that I had someone else that was willing to do the same deal I offered them. I told him I just want to make sure he knew it was the difference between making a little bit of money or no money. He chose no money. I think there is a certain amount of greed in the business. Like they feel they have to make top dollar on every item they sell. Eventually I think they are gonna hit a point where the dealers are all gonna go out of business because we are all running out of the ability to come up with those kinds of funds.
Had a dealer in Arkansas tell me used boats have a 30% profit. They will not sell them with less profit. If you want a new boat, check out Arkansas dealers.
I remember when Bass Pro Shops used to have catalogs the size of phone books, and in the front of the catalog was Tracker Boats, and back in 1982, you could get a fully rigged 17' Tracker for $3,500.00
@@rodmakermagazine7117I am a life member of BASS. I used to get catalogs from Bas Pro and Cabelas all the time. I haven’t got one in years. I don’t know why.
When BASS went from a 150 to a 250hp limit it was the beginning of the end. My first boat, a 1978 Ranger had a 115 and every boat I’ve had since has had a 150. Most of the lakes around me have speed limits and the only place within 100 miles that is over 6000ac and has no speed limit is the Hudson River. Wallenpaupack the 5700ac Reservoir 12 miles from me has a 45mph speed limit and still guys buy 20ft/250hp boats to fish it. Overall I think the 18ft/150hp boats that were the standard tournament rig in the 80’s and 90’s are more versatile/better fishing boats that the 100K boats popular today.
Personally I think that rule change had a lot more to do with pleasing sponsors than it did improving the sport. And you're right, most of the waters I fish for recreation or local tournaments are less that 800 acres in size, and often crowded on weekends, and unsafe/unsuitable for running wide open, so what's the point of paying for horsepower you can't use?
I just went the the fishing show in Novi Mich A Ranger 520 list $115,000 on sale for $99,000, Garmen equipped, did see the vexus , very nice now my bestie was a Lund 20ft equipped with Michigan State University decals was afraid to ask price
@@bobhunter8992 yeah, with the highest inflation in 50 years and numerous rate increases to get it under control. The economy has not been great. Just ask the American people.
The stock market has been at an all-time high, so that means your pension and retirement funds have grown substantially over the past four years and if you manage to save any money and invest it, rather than just blowing it on overpriced, boats and trucks, your net worth is higher now as well. There has been a net addition of jobs in every month of Biden‘s term, the first president in history who didn’t have at least one month of unemployment exceeding job growth . The overall unemployment rate is down to 4.1% a very low rate and inflation has been brought down significantly. The United States, by most importance economic statistics, has had the most successful economy of all of the developed nations in the world over the past four years. Wages have also gone up. Yes, prices have gone up on most consumer goods. There are three main reasons for this: one, residuals from pandemic shortages; two, wage increases being passed on to customers after the minimum wage stagnated far too low for too long; and three, corporate price gauging. Housing costs have also increased sharply. A major cause of this is the pandemic materials shortage drove prices up substantially, and now that manufacturing has returned to normal levels, the corporate manufacturers are keeping prices, artificially high to boost their profits, all at the expense of the American consumer. The irony is that those who have so proudly beat their chest, proclaiming the benefits of unfettered capitalism are also the ones who are whining the most about how everything costs too much these days. When you vote for politicians that are really in the pockets of the corporations and their ultra wealthy owners, you are not anything more than just a vote that has been secured and are not the real constituent . Time and again we have seen that without reasonable regulations, greed will simply take over and ruin an economy.. When Michael Douglas stated “Greed is good!“ In the movie Wall Street, the lesson wasn’t that that statement is true, the lesson is that unfettered greed leads to corruption. Like most things, the best situation isn’t a black-and-white, all-or-nothing one, but a system characterized by reasonableness and moderation. This is not an impossibility in government. For example, most people would agree that the system of traffic and drunk driving laws in most states are pretty reasonable and are generally fair and successful. Government regulations need to balance preserving individual freedom with protecting the public, and there generally is a happy middle ground where success can be obtained that would satisfy all, but the most rabid extremists on either end of the political spectrum.
Would rather have capitalism than a movement toward socialism which is what has been going on.. Inflation was at 1.9 % when Trump left and it went up to almost 10% during Bidens term. Excessive spending on woke programs, student loan giveaways contributed significantly to this. Energy prices have increased significantly and this contributes to almost everything related to the economy. Cost of building materials and interest rates on housing went up big time. They were warned but did it anyway to appease the radicals in their party like AOC, Bernie Sanders, etc. The Fed had to enact numerous rate cuts to get it somewhat under control.
I brought my motor in for a 100 hour check. The dealer said he has sold 4 boats in the last 2 years. All he carry s is G3 aluminum boats. Service is the only thing keeping him above water.
Most guys don't care what it costs - they are only concerned what it costs PER MONTH. These 20-year loans enable almost anyone with good credit to buy a $100,000 boat. Of course, their equity won't keep up with their payments so unless they plan to keep it forever, it'll actually cost them money to get rid of it.
It’s all segments of the boating market. I disagree that the economy has been strong the last 4 years because the stock market has been strong. I was at the Barrett Jackson car auction in Scottsdale and the couple in front of me purchased a General Lee Charger for their Grandson at $120,000 he’s 9 years old lol. Crazy !
As long as there's people crazy enough to pay high prices, they will continue to go up in price. Or who knows they might be trying to compensate for something else..🍌..
If you look back when bass fishing was exploding, there were a couple dozen bass boat companies out there. BASSMASTER every year used to have a new boats issue that covered dozens of new boats. There was a lot of innovation and prices were reasonable to get people into fishing. Today, how many companies are there? Tracker Marine has bought now owns how many? And closed down how many more? The boats I bought in 92, 98, and 02, the companies were bought by them and closed down. There's a huge lack of competition in the boat industry. Then consider the size of boats. How many 16-17 foot boats running 115's are out there now? Hull size and horsepower go together and drive cost. As do the ridiculous sets of electronics on the boats. How about a new tournament format -- boats no larger than 17 foot and no more than 115 HP. No electronics allowed. No power poles. No more than three rods. No more than 10 lbs of tackle. See who can really fish.
There is always inflation Randy but the last 4 years has pretty much ruined it for a lot of people who fish as an recreational escape from their daily life 2-8k for kayaks 2k-10k for electronics You can thank the class mom’s with OnlyFan accounts to support their kids bass fishing expense for
I’m over here trying to save up for a basic simple deep V aluminum boat with a nice Yamaha , Evinrude, or Honda tiller motor. And there’s guys spending as much as a house on fishing boats and gadgets. Give me a boat that is dry, spacious, and floats, a powerful trolling motor that can fight the wind or current, a decent fish locator with GPS and side imaging, a couple padded swiveling seats, and I am happy and ready to fish! Fishing and fisherman are getting ridiculous, along with the prices of all these toys and gadgets. Good luck fishing Randy! 🎣
I glad , I bought my last boat 2013 legend alpha211. I am old school,9 inch side scan depth finder on console and 9 inch down scan depth finder on front boat.I am still trying to learn how use side & down scan on them.Well like fish brush piles ,that I put out.
Just because they cost that much doesn't mean you have to buy it. Buy what you can afford and enjoy based on your comfort level. Never in the history of boats have they ever decreased in price. They have always increased in price. Same with trucks, cars, planes and ..... Bottom line is inflation is to blame. How much has a loaf of bread increased as an example?
How much of that is electronics? And for sure materials and parts costs have gone up more than 6% in recent years. I'm sure sponsorship costs have risen steadily, too. I'm not saying the prices aren't out of control, but the boat manufacturers aren't the ones getting fat off it.
The average weekend angler has been long left behind with the costs of electronics and boats. It is sickening to me that the average Joe cant go and enjoy the sport due to the costs.
Skeeter has a nicely equipped 20 foot boat (ZXR SE) for $66,000. A BassCat Cougar SP can be had for $80,000. Hopefully the next 4 years we can have less inflationary pressure.
man I can remember when a 21 foot ranger with a 300 horse mercury black max was the top of the line and that was around 30,000 fully loaded, but man there still has to be some kind of sport in fishing, take this new way of hunting, where you get out of a truck looking at 50 buffalo standing still 30 yards away and you take the big kill and hang his head on the wall and brag about your hunting skills to your friends. crazy stuff.
$200 k cars are here also. Thousand of other things are out of reach for the common man. Why should anyone not have the right to spend their money as they please. I say if you have the money and you want one, go for it. No one is making anyone buy something they don't want.
Randy, just an FYI... there are plenty of new boats for sale under $100K to choose from along with thousands of used models. If companies want to make/sell $100K+ boats and have a market for these high priced boats, more power to them. You're talking like if boats top $100K we're all going to suffer or be left behind, when we're not. An expensive boat does not make a great fisherman.
Agree man! I was about to post the new Skeeter being 70k. Also Basscat has SP Eyra and Caracal at 79k. I doubt these boats (alone) would ever hit 200,000 😂. However, if they do, buy what you want and can afford. You can’t take it all to the grave. To be honest, 30, 40, 50, 60k is too much for any bass boat aluminum or fiberglass.
Just about 80% of my old bass club has stop fishing competitive, cannot afford the new equipment and boat anymore.. I have no idea how these people are affording 100k truck, 125k boat and 50k in electronics.
According to Randy, it sees a fish and the fish jumps in the boat. The transducer sends a signal to the converter box, decodes it and sends the signal to the unit you are looking at real time speed. That's the redneck version of how it works.
It's called Greed! I have a 2000 Triton TR-21 and it still runs great and keeping it! I put brand new custom seats in it all brand new electronics, new carpet and it sits on a new trailer. It looks great and will get me where I need to go and keep up with today's $200.000 boat. Not to mention, anyone who one who knows anything about Triton Boats, know that was one of the best hulls ever made for rough waters. No thank you. I'm keeping my old girl!!
Randy. I totally enjoy your channel but what on earth are you talking about a strong economy the last 4 years. With “record” growth?? This is not been my experience.
You have to look at all the leading economic indicators that measure the strength of the economy. People try to equate things like the price of eggs to the strength of the economy when it really doesn’t have anything to do with it. Those issues are mainly price gouging on the part of the companies. In reality, it doesn’t matter what side of the aisle somebody is on politically presidents have very little to do with the economy. But they either take credit for it or get blamed for it by the opposing sides.
@@randyblaukatintuitiveYou are right, the rising price of eggs has to do with inflation, not the strength of the economy. Price gouging on eggs? Is this Putins price hike? The cost of energy has contributed significantly to everything in the economy and the cost is up significantly. Not to mention the out of control spending on woke giveaways and student loan bailout that was meant to buy votes. The economy along with the open border were the main contributors to the loss of the White House. Spin everything to the Democratic side as usual.
@@DonG-c4j here’s the stats and facts. They speak for themselves.www.whitehouse.gov/cea/written-materials/2024/12/11/setting-the-record-straight-benchmarking-the-biden-years/
@@randyblaukatintuitive Really? You reciting a White House generated slant on this that tells half of the story and only highlights anything that may be positive. Just like you. Not seeing anything in the glossed over report regarding inflation ramping up to almost 10% or that in 2023 they OVERSTATED jobs by 800,000. They did a statement on the revision late on a Friday to try and bury it over the weekend so. Abe no one would notice. That relates to 1-4 jobs that were supposedly added in 2023 never existed. You will never mention anything but what you deem is positive with your political views and anything negative with the Trump administration. People will continue to call you out on this. By the way, probably more than 50% of your subscribers ( customers) don’t subscribe to your political views. So why do you persist in alienating them with this? Stick to fishing.
Most folks are in debt. Everything they have is financed, and they're one or two paychecks away from losing it all. American consumerism, keeping up with the joneses (except mr jones is financed up to his ears as well), call it whatever you want. But as long as folks keep buying them, it shows that the market can bear that price. You can make your voice really loud when you choose not to spend your money.
Out of curiosity what model and options? I'm on my 3rd boat and my current boat is a 2021 721 pro xp with a 250 merc. Came with the 36v ghost, and 2 12" hds lives. I got the upgraded trailer with the nice rims and added a hds live 16 and active target. Out the door is was 72k. Reason I'm asking is I just bought another house and it takes a little more effort getting g the boat in and out so I might wanna down size.
Does it matter if it is a small fraction of their net worth? Now, if they use a loan, they are suckers...same as those who carry credit card balances and car loans. If you can't purchase a depreciating asset with cash, you can't afford it.
I have a 1986 Champion 184 that was left for dead in a field,paid $750 for it and it’s now a trolling motor only boat for a reservoir that electric motors only allowed,it’s garbage on big lakes in most peoples eyes ,but it’s a Cadillac on the all electric reservoir
I’ve got a 30k dollar pickup because I won’t pay the new price..ain’t no way I’m hooking a 80-100k boat behind it, not because I’m too good, my truck makes me money my boat won’t!
The economy isn't strong. Over 10% of credit cards are over 90 days delinquent. People are going into debt like crazy. Housing prices have exploded. I bought a used bass boat and will keep it maintained and if it needs a new outboard I will buy one and keep the hull. Bought the used boat with cash so I wouldn't have a payment. Saved for 5 years to buy it.
What economy are you talking about??????.......... I had in inflatable boat this past summer and fall just to get out on the water for about $100-$120 after buying a portable usb air pump and it was durable. Just paddles but it got me out there. One Sunday early evening at my local lake about a half hour before I went back to the boat ramp, another boat was getting off at the same boat ramp and I just hung out and fished until they were done. I noticed it was a very nice and sporty looking bass boat with electronics, a nice motor, etc. I looked up the model number of the boat right there on my phone and I about passed out right there on the water. That sucker was priced I believe at $98,000!!!!! Then of course one of the 3 guys backs his probably $20,000-$30000 truck up to it, maybe even more. I thought to myself, "Who in God's name can justify, let alone afford to get a basically $100,000 hunk of metal just to go out and fish!!!!???? Now the more I am into fishing and watch fishing videos, it sounds like $100,000 boats are normal atleast right now. I just find that absurd. I would feel like a baller if I ran across an older jon boat with a trolling motor. I would still need something to pull it.
The crisis isn’t high-dollar bass boats. The crisis is the massive consumer debt that is evident in the sheer number of $150,000 bass boats, and $100,000 pickup trucks you see at fisheries everywhere. Terrifying.
I bought a 2006 skeeter zx200 2 years ago $13k it’s paid for very reliable gets the job done ! I’m floored with the price of boats and pickup trucks. I don’t agree with you on the economy the last few years. It’s been terrible actually.
$200k boat, easily $125k on a truck. The cost of basic tackle is crazy. I have a teenage son now. A trip to bass pro is really starting to hurt. I can blow $100 just on me, then he too wants to pick up this and that. I miss the good ole days of catching nite crawlers or digging worms. We have lost a lot in a lot of ways
Many many people are working two or more jobs to afford rent and food. The worst inflation in 40 years. The government fudged employment numbers and changed the definition of recession. Covid killed jobs, allowing them to return isn’t actually job growth.
Boat prices are crazy, but cost of these outboard motors is absolutely ridiculous! I'll stick with my O2 Bass Tracker I can take it almost anywhere darn air anywhere
I’m willing to bet a bass doesn’t know if it’s caught on a $499.00 kayak or a $200,000 super deluxe bass boat. It’s always been known that pretty lures are designed for catching anglers…….now it’s boats……human being are sooooooo dumb.
If you stop and think about it boats are already out of the reach of a huge group of fishermen.
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After BASS ditched co anglers I bought a 1999 champion. Motor seems solid and checked out. I only need her to not put me down on the water.
Just buy used. These prices are outrageous!
If it wasn't for the long term financing, almost nobody could afford them now.
I will never buy one.the boat don't catch the fish:)
What’s even crazier is a 30k kayak !
Applied marketing to the 200 dollar plastic fantastic
Crazy thing is that some anglers will buy a $120,000 boat, pull it with a $90,000 truck, and drive home to sleep in a $250,000 house they rent.
Exactly!!!!
At the same time complain housing prices are to high.
That's me. But I'm in California and don't want to lose my 5 acre property me and my buddy rent for 1300 a month lol
Freedom of choice. You want it, you got the money, get it.
@ you are correct. People are free to make whatever stupid decisions they want.
My 98 Champion runs great and I’ll keep it . Thanks Randy !
Got a 98 Champion myself and will keep it.
I agree, I really enjoy my 202
What part of the country has the economic been good the last four years?
No where
Ukraine
ALL OF IT
@@stevefisher2553what rock are you hiding under???
Been good for me...Actually fantastic
My Dad bought a Ranger Commanche 491VS brand new in 1996 for $32000. I thought that was a lot which it was back then. He still has it. It has been a great boat. Rides great in rough water. Looks like that is the first and last new Ranger or any new fiberglass boat I am going to experience. I might be wrong but I don't believe the new over priced Rangers are the same as the Rangers from the days of Forrest Wood.
Yeah, that’s nuts!
Gonna stick with the ol 06’ Skeeter. She starts,floats and is paid for😁.
Everyone should know that boat prices are jacked up at boat shows. Dealers don't even want to sell just a boat, motor and trailer. They all say it comes as a pkg.. Nitro is the worst. They package a Z20 with a 5" graph in console, a 24 volt t.m., 2 bank charger knowing good and well absolutely no one is going to buy it packaged like that and to upgrade is where the money really adds up. More money means more profit, dealer prep, taxes etc...
Haha! If idiots are willing to pay that, let 'em be stupid. A fool and his money are soon parted.
The smart fool in today's world spends the money of others. I am neither smart enough, or foolish enough, to figure out how that works. Save money, invest money; magic money appears from lending and government handouts to decrease my money's value.
@@diggernash1 I work for a living as well. No way in hell I'd pay $100,000 for a bass boat lol
@TheAverageFisherman99 I would not either. That we agree on. But I have also encountered people who leverage their business to buy all kinds of client relationship tools. If it goes South, they fold up and go do the same thing a few years later...magic money.
I bought my Nitro NX882 in 2000 for 26,000$. I still have it. It runs great and I see no reason to pay 120,000 for essentially the same boat now. Ridiculous.
As a side not, I just got my first boat last year. A used $500 1436 Jon.
Repaired it for less than $20, Added a 9.8hp motor that is in like-new condition now for $1,300 in total. Added a little less than $1000 worth of aluminum to floor it, front and rear casting deck it, and hatches. Built my own wiring harness for nav lights, stern light, headlights, interior lights, 2 USB charging and one 12V charging port, and more for maybe $100. Got a spanking new 55lb Minnkota Riptide tiller trolling motor for $450. Got the Garmin 94sv UHD2 (side scan) fish finder that I will hardly use but for navigating the shallow salt flats for $1000. Got a spanking new oversized (in case I decide to upgrade) aluminum trailer for $1,600... but sold my pedal drive kayak for $2,100. Then got Millenium B-100 seats and two LiTime batteries (A 100Ah and a 50Ah) from Amazon on the cheap for a black Friday deal.
So far, I am at a little over $4k... and am set up for some serious bass, catfish, crappie, and mainly salt flats fishing. I will be painting soon for not much more. My little ones can come with me at times and the son wants to do some camping trips from it.
With just me in there... she will do low to mid 20s... and get the same in fuel economy. With the kids and me... she gets a little over 18 mph. Still planes fine... and is too fast to fish from. 😆
I have to shut the motor down. I still don't get why everyone needs to go so fast... when there are so many boat ramps around. I would rather save the money and invest it.
It really is not the cost of a boat hull (per foot) that has increased so dramatically. Boats used to be 16-17' in length with a 150 hp motor, one 6" graph and a 12 volt trolling motor. We now have 22' hulls with 4-5 12"-22" graphs plus FFS, 360 live, power poles, 120 lb. thrust 36 volt trolling motors, power poles, steps on trailers, 17-20" trailer tires, 400 hp outboards, fancy livewell systems, lithium batteries, and the list goes on and on. Brian Latimer has a great video breaking this down.
There’s some misleading info in this video…an absolutely loaded to the gills Phoenix will NOT hit 100k. You can get there if you need a 300R, 6 graphs and seat heaters. A normal tourney bass boat will hit 80k in MO. Thats with a 250, 2 12” graphs and a spotlighter. Shop around.
Just bought a 2008 Skeeter and it's amazing...paid cash...under 30K. I honestly couldn't be happier.
I've noticed several boat manufacturers are offering special package boats at a lower price. However in most cases they have removed items such as Power poles or substituted cheaper electronics. It's like a dog fight; the boat builders, engine manufacturers take a 3 to 6% annual increase and the electronic and accessory companies add locators and trolling motors that cost a couple hundred dollars to make and market them for thousands. The best way for the consumer to control pricing is to stop buying, The prices will come down when their warehouses start to overflow.
If people stopped buying them you would see price come down very fast!!!
As long as they keep buying them, they will keep increasing the price. Look at the price of lures, the exact lure I purchased several years ago for $2.99 is now $12.00
That’s why I haven’t bought any lures in the last couple years I’ll just use what I have.
You can't imagine the number of boxes of found lures I have...
Of course there is some people buying them but New bass boat sales are down and most of America is struggling as the cost of living has gotten higher. If there is people buying $200,000 boats like Randy claims then it’s a very small percentage and the same for $100,000 boats. No facts around what he is saying and the guy literally lied saying the Economy is good atm like we aren’t all struggling rn. He keeps saying this shit, yet the facts say otherwise.
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Well not to get political but Randy is a democrat it’s just what he believes. I don’t agree the economy sucks the stock market isn’t a sign of a great economy. Remember when companies lay off stock prices go up strange but facts.
Inflation is real and much worse than they admit. My boat is paid for ain’t buying another . The prices for tackle is absurd just glad I have enough to last the rest of my life.
I know there are people that pay cash for boats but there are more financed for 12,15,and 20 year loans.
I'm paying $75.00 for the same amount of groceries that would have cost $45.00 four years ago.
That's not a good economy.
I bought a Vexus aluminum 19 and it was also very high. It has sit for almost 3 years and has 2 hours on it. Sounds now like a good investment 😊
As long as people sign on the line they won't come down. Twenty years on a boat loan is unreal, the finance company knows they have a high chance at getting it back. I sold bass boats in the late 80's and early 90's and the top price for a Champion or a Skeeter hard loaded was around $18k. I could go 120 months on any new boat over $10k. The only 2 questions a majority of buyers asked was: how fast will it go and how low can I get the payments. We got a lot of repo's over the years.Im sure it hasn't changed much
My first house in CO cost 47,500. Close to half a mil now. Prices go up, don't be so surprised.
Im running a resto mod 1984 Winner Z880, all new carpet, motor, trolling motor , grafs and i love it, I may end up with $25,000 in it . I can't pay more for my boat than I paid for my house. I think the restoring of older bass boats is going to take off!
I'm fishing out of a 1998 zx202c That I bought new. $26000 I've take very good care of it over the years and just upgraded seats and electronics as needed. Original 200hp vmax still hanging on the back. The boat still looks new. I couldn't fathom giving the kind of money they're asking for these boats now. I always thought when I retired I would spring for a new boat but those plans have changed and I am satisfied with one that's sitting in the garage. I also think the price of new boats are going to cause used boat prices to rise sharply.
I was at bass pro and there are a lot of boats between 15000 and 80000, so it all depends on what you want to spend, then there are lots of used ones on the market for way less
I do different types of fishing. From river fishing for trout, steelhead and salmon, to small mouth, to lake fishing for Bass, Stripers and Crappie. When we were in the Pacific NW I bought a new Hewescraft Pro V hard top 24' fishing boat for $45,000 in 2015. I sold it a few years later since we were moving away from Puget Sound. That same type of boat is now $140,000. It is inconceivable.
I am also a pilot. From 2007 to 2014 general aviation aircraft increased in price over 400%. When my wife and I were in the market for an airplane, we looked at a new Cessna 182 and simply could not justify, or afford, the $800,000 price tag (yes, even though I'm a doctor, we could not afford that). We purchased a 1973 Cessna 182 in great condition (cost of it new in 1973 was $17,000), low hours on the airframe, and newer engine, for $106,000. (We drive old cars). The Cessna 182 from 1956 to 2024 is nearly identical as far as airframe. Of course the avionics are more advanced. We ended up several years later needing an engine overhaul. It costs about $5,000 for an overhaul of a similar sized truck engine. The overhaul of the airplane engine cost $62,000. Why? Because they can since a new engine is nearly $100,000. Now the kicker! You think electronics for a boat are expensive? Our older avionics have worn out and we could replace it with similar stuff for $50,000 or all modern digital doo-dads for $100,000. We are going with the newer stuff. Back in the day with a little budgeting and some sacrifice on other items nearly everyone who was a pilot and wanted to could own a small plane. Those days are gone.
I wanted a boat since we moved to Upstate SC and I wanted to fish the lakes but already having a plane as a money pit I aimed low. Honestly, I can fish out of any darn thing. We bought a used Tracker Grizzly with a 60HP for $7,000; adequate for my wife and me or a buddy and me to go fishing. I pull it with my 2015 F-150 that has 140,000 miles on it. The boat is not fast, but I can get there and the fish don't know what I'm fishing out of. I do not do tournament fishing. Honestly, not one fish I have caught ever asked me why I don't have a fancy new boat. I cannot justify paying the price of these boats. What these manufacturers of recreational boats and general aviation aircraft do not realize is that eventually, they will price themselves out of existence. I don't even want to get started on housing prices. It is profiteering on the backs of working people. The America of 20-30 years ago is gone and likely will never come back.
The reason this is happening is because the people willing to buy them. If the dealers couldn't sell them at these high prices the prices would go down. Somebody tell these damn dummies to stop buying these marked up boats.
$14,000 1986---todays same cash is $40,000
I went to a salt water fishing seminar at a Grady White dealer not long ago. The place was full of off shore boats from $350k to a million. I asked a salesman who buys them. He said wealthy people who pay cash. According to him the only customers who finance are buying boats at or below $100k. So it's not just the bass boats. It's the entire boat industry.
That's why everyone's turning into a kayak fisherman
Funny you say that me and a friend were just talking about that trend.
You can get into a really nice kayak with all the bells and whistles for 5k.
In my opinion if you’re not fishing with any family. It’s a great option and way more simple. Especially getting into spots bass boats can’t!
@@CollinBeBassin this past year I bought 3 10’ kayaks, brand new for $1100 from bass pro. I built a wood rack to fit over the bed in my Tacoma truck. 2 ride on top and one rides in bed, everything is secure. All three of us can go, we have walkie talkies to keep in touch on water. Basic kayak and paddle. I wanted all three to be same so it would make hauling easier
I’ve been fishing my whole life. I started kayak fishing in 2005. Stopped for a few years. Bought another kayak fishing 4 years ago. I mainly fish flats and places hard to get to via boat.
I totally agree that boat cost don't make sense,but an 8x8 hot tub,which is actually made the same way as a boat and cost 25k,It's a lot harder to build a glass boat,you can build an aluminium hull 5 times faster,without all the regulations.
I think it’s like the auto industry. They are targeting higher end vehicles, or boats in this case, because they bring in the highest profit. Car companies don’t make cheap cars. Boat companies are probably the same
Randy I just left a dealer where I offered them 108k plus a 2016 Phoenix 919 Pro XP for a Phoenix 920 Elite II. I still owe a little bit on the trade in boat but all I wanted to get in trade was basically the low end NADA value. They wouldn't do the deal. So I am going to purchase the same boat at the same price with the same trade in deal from a dealer that is 2,500 miles away from here. I told the local guy I really wanted to purchase it from him and I even sat down with the owner of the dealership and made it clear to him that I had someone else that was willing to do the same deal I offered them. I told him I just want to make sure he knew it was the difference between making a little bit of money or no money. He chose no money. I think there is a certain amount of greed in the business. Like they feel they have to make top dollar on every item they sell. Eventually I think they are gonna hit a point where the dealers are all gonna go out of business because we are all running out of the ability to come up with those kinds of funds.
Had a dealer in Arkansas tell me used boats have a 30% profit. They will not sell them with less profit. If you want a new boat, check out Arkansas dealers.
@@glynnreid1217 Already got a deal done with a dealer in Washington state. Limit Out Performance Marine. They do good deals.
I remember when Bass Pro Shops used to have catalogs the size of phone books, and in the front of the catalog was Tracker Boats, and back in 1982, you could get a fully rigged 17' Tracker for $3,500.00
BPS still mails catalogs the size of phone books. Just got my new one about a month ago.
@@rodmakermagazine7117I am a life member of BASS. I used to get catalogs from Bas Pro and Cabelas all the time. I haven’t got one in years. I don’t know why.
1982 was 43 years ago, Gramps! jk
When BASS went from a 150 to a 250hp limit it was the beginning of the end. My first boat, a 1978 Ranger had a 115 and every boat I’ve had since has had a 150. Most of the lakes around me have speed limits and the only place within 100 miles that is over 6000ac and has no speed limit is the Hudson River. Wallenpaupack the 5700ac Reservoir 12 miles from me has a 45mph speed limit and still guys buy 20ft/250hp boats to fish it. Overall I think the 18ft/150hp boats that were the standard tournament rig in the 80’s and 90’s are more versatile/better fishing boats that the 100K boats popular today.
Personally I think that rule change had a lot more to do with pleasing sponsors than it did improving the sport. And you're right, most of the waters I fish for recreation or local tournaments are less that 800 acres in size, and often crowded on weekends, and unsafe/unsuitable for running wide open, so what's the point of paying for horsepower you can't use?
I've been fishing out of my repower 1990 Charger, still garaged and clean, no leaks.
Don't know how I afforded mine then.
Amen Randy!!!!! The boats are outrageous!!!! I never dreamed the boats would ever get to 100,000 much less 200,000!!!!! But here we are!!! Crazy
Randy the main boat place in Shreveport told me over half the bass boats sold are 20 year loans.
Fiends . 😂
Finance a boat for 20 years, that’s Forrest Gump level stupid
I just went the the fishing show in Novi Mich A Ranger 520 list $115,000 on sale for $99,000, Garmen equipped, did see the vexus , very nice now my bestie was a Lund 20ft equipped with Michigan State University decals was afraid to ask price
Great economy the past 4 years? Ok.
Obviously he does not verify everything he is being told.Typical.
@@bobhunter8992 yeah, with the highest inflation in 50 years and numerous rate increases to get it under control. The economy has not been great. Just ask the American people.
The stock market has been at an all-time high, so that means your pension and retirement funds have grown substantially over the past four years and if you manage to save any money and invest it, rather than just blowing it on overpriced, boats and trucks, your net worth is higher now as well. There has been a net addition of jobs in every month of Biden‘s term, the first president in history who didn’t have at least one month of unemployment exceeding job growth . The overall unemployment rate is down to 4.1% a very low rate and inflation has been brought down significantly. The United States, by most importance economic statistics, has had the most successful economy of all of the developed nations in the world over the past four years. Wages have also gone up.
Yes, prices have gone up on most consumer goods. There are three main reasons for this: one, residuals from pandemic shortages; two, wage increases being passed on to customers after the minimum wage stagnated far too low for too long; and three, corporate price gauging.
Housing costs have also increased sharply. A major cause of this is the pandemic materials shortage drove prices up substantially, and now that manufacturing has returned to normal levels, the corporate manufacturers are keeping prices, artificially high to boost their profits, all at the expense of the American consumer.
The irony is that those who have so proudly beat their chest, proclaiming the benefits of unfettered capitalism are also the ones who are whining the most about how everything costs too much these days. When you vote for politicians that are really in the pockets of the corporations and their ultra wealthy owners, you are not anything more than just a vote that has been secured and are not the real constituent . Time and again we have seen that without reasonable regulations, greed will simply take over and ruin an economy.. When Michael Douglas stated “Greed is good!“ In the movie Wall Street, the lesson wasn’t that that statement is true, the lesson is that unfettered greed leads to corruption.
Like most things, the best situation isn’t a black-and-white, all-or-nothing one, but a system characterized by reasonableness and moderation. This is not an impossibility in government. For example, most people would agree that the system of traffic and drunk driving laws in most states are pretty reasonable and are generally fair and successful. Government regulations need to balance preserving individual freedom with protecting the public, and there generally is a happy middle ground where success can be obtained that would satisfy all, but the most rabid extremists on either end of the political spectrum.
Would rather have capitalism than a movement toward socialism which is what has been going on.. Inflation was at 1.9 % when Trump left and it went up to almost 10% during Bidens term. Excessive spending on woke programs, student loan giveaways contributed significantly to this. Energy prices have increased significantly and this contributes to almost everything related to the economy. Cost of building materials and interest rates on housing went up big time. They were warned but did it anyway to appease the radicals in their party like AOC, Bernie Sanders, etc. The Fed had to enact numerous rate cuts to get it somewhat under control.
I brought my motor in for a 100 hour check. The dealer said he has sold 4 boats in the last 2 years. All he carry s is G3 aluminum boats. Service is the only thing keeping him above water.
Most guys don't care what it costs - they are only concerned what it costs PER MONTH. These 20-year loans enable almost anyone with good credit to buy a $100,000 boat. Of course, their equity won't keep up with their payments so unless they plan to keep it forever, it'll actually cost them money to get rid of it.
It’s all segments of the boating market. I disagree that the economy has been strong the last 4 years because the stock market has been strong. I was at the Barrett Jackson car auction in Scottsdale and the couple in front of me purchased a General Lee Charger for their Grandson at $120,000 he’s 9 years old lol. Crazy !
👍 to the old couple buying a General Lee !
I try to keep tackle to a minimum with the bag I have I can fish the rest of my like and find some pretty decent stuff out on the lake when fishing!
That’s definitely crazy. More power to those that buy them, but not me for that price.
As long as there's people crazy enough to pay high prices, they will continue to go up in price. Or who knows they might be trying to compensate for something else..🍌..
If you look back when bass fishing was exploding, there were a couple dozen bass boat companies out there. BASSMASTER every year used to have a new boats issue that covered dozens of new boats. There was a lot of innovation and prices were reasonable to get people into fishing. Today, how many companies are there? Tracker Marine has bought now owns how many? And closed down how many more? The boats I bought in 92, 98, and 02, the companies were bought by them and closed down. There's a huge lack of competition in the boat industry. Then consider the size of boats. How many 16-17 foot boats running 115's are out there now? Hull size and horsepower go together and drive cost. As do the ridiculous sets of electronics on the boats. How about a new tournament format -- boats no larger than 17 foot and no more than 115 HP. No electronics allowed. No power poles. No more than three rods. No more than 10 lbs of tackle. See who can really fish.
It’s easy to keep the cost down and that’s not to buy them
INSANE,$50,000 IS CRAZY. THE SPORT IS NUTS,LOOK AT ELECTRONICS 3-4 k for a locator Or more !
At this point they have priced the little guy out of the game. Good Luck
There is always inflation Randy but the last 4 years has pretty much ruined it for a lot of people who fish as an recreational escape from their daily life
2-8k for kayaks 2k-10k for electronics
You can thank the class mom’s with OnlyFan accounts to support their kids bass fishing expense for
I’m over here trying to save up for a basic simple deep V aluminum boat with a nice Yamaha , Evinrude, or Honda tiller motor. And there’s guys spending as much as a house on fishing boats and gadgets. Give me a boat that is dry, spacious, and floats, a powerful trolling motor that can fight the wind or current, a decent fish locator with GPS and side imaging, a couple padded swiveling seats, and I am happy and ready to fish! Fishing and fisherman are getting ridiculous, along with the prices of all these toys and gadgets. Good luck fishing Randy! 🎣
I glad , I bought my last boat 2013 legend alpha211. I am old school,9 inch side scan depth finder on console and 9 inch down scan depth finder on front boat.I am still trying to learn how use side & down scan on them.Well like fish brush piles ,that I put out.
Every 20 foot bass boast from Basscat, Caymus, Skeeter, Triton & Phoenix all
Are under 90k? Where are you getting these numbers ???
20ft is way too small. How do you ever catch a fish in one of those? 😊
Maybe that expense drives some dishonesty in tournaments (e.g., weight in the fish, or fish held in a cage, etc.)
Just because they cost that much doesn't mean you have to buy it. Buy what you can afford and enjoy based on your comfort level. Never in the history of boats have they ever decreased in price. They have always increased in price. Same with trucks, cars, planes and ..... Bottom line is inflation is to blame. How much has a loaf of bread increased as an example?
They think the boat is gonna make them be the next Kevin Van Damme
How much of that is electronics? And for sure materials and parts costs have gone up more than 6% in recent years. I'm sure sponsorship costs have risen steadily, too. I'm not saying the prices aren't out of control, but the boat manufacturers aren't the ones getting fat off it.
We are in a recession have been in America for at least 12yrs
I've got a jon boat with spotlock and 2 livescopes, catch a ton of fish
Who wouldn't with one let alone 2 cheater boxes 😂
The average weekend angler has been long left behind with the costs of electronics and boats. It is sickening to me that the average Joe cant go and enjoy the sport due to the costs.
Skeeter has a nicely equipped 20 foot boat (ZXR SE) for $66,000. A BassCat Cougar SP can be had for $80,000. Hopefully the next 4 years we can have less inflationary pressure.
man I can remember when a 21 foot ranger with a 300 horse mercury black max was the top of the line and that was around 30,000 fully loaded, but man there still has to be some kind of sport in fishing, take this new way of hunting, where you get out of a truck looking at 50 buffalo standing still 30 yards away and you take the big kill and hang his head on the wall and brag about your hunting skills to your friends. crazy stuff.
A late model used Bass boat does EVERYTHING that a brand new one does...there is absolutely no need to buy a new boat
great post!!!
$200 k cars are here also. Thousand of other things are out of reach for the common man. Why should anyone not have the right to spend their money as they please. I say if you have the money and you want one, go for it. No one is making anyone buy something they don't want.
Randy, just an FYI... there are plenty of new boats for sale under $100K to choose from along with thousands of used models. If companies want to make/sell $100K+ boats and have a market for these high priced boats, more power to them. You're talking like if boats top $100K we're all going to suffer or be left behind, when we're not. An expensive boat does not make a great fisherman.
I bought a brand new 2024 Skeeter ZXR 21 loaded for $69,000. Demo with 15 hrs on it. Hit up the dealer for a demo.
Agree man! I was about to post the new Skeeter being 70k. Also Basscat has SP Eyra and Caracal at 79k. I doubt these boats (alone) would ever hit 200,000 😂. However, if they do, buy what you want and can afford. You can’t take it all to the grave.
To be honest, 30, 40, 50, 60k is too much for any bass boat aluminum or fiberglass.
Outboard prices are absolutely preposterous. So little competition or options.
My 2001 Ranger518vx with 200hp cost $25000
Always wanted Allison Bassport there $78000 and at least it gets 7-9mpg all other bass boats get 4-5mpg.
Just about 80% of my old bass club has stop fishing competitive, cannot afford the new equipment and boat anymore.. I have no idea how these people are affording 100k truck, 125k boat and 50k in electronics.
Does have Garmin Livescope or Lowrance Active target?
According to Randy, it sees a fish and the fish jumps in the boat. The transducer sends a signal to the converter box, decodes it and sends the signal to the unit you are looking at real time speed. That's the redneck version of how it works.
It's called Greed! I have a 2000 Triton TR-21 and it still runs great and keeping it! I put brand new custom seats in it all brand new electronics, new carpet and it sits on a new trailer. It looks great and will get me where I need to go and keep up with today's $200.000 boat. Not to mention, anyone who one who knows anything about Triton Boats, know that was one of the best hulls ever made for rough waters. No thank you. I'm keeping my old girl!!
I've never seen nor heard about a salesman holding a gun to a customers head. to make them buy anything. All someones choice.
Price gouging. And the fake inflation excuse. Just like houses were 30k same house today 500k. If inflation is that bad then the us dollar is trash.
Yeah for most fishermen that love to fish don’t have the coin to buy a bass boat and that’s a sad reality that will NEVER CHANGE
Even 100k is ridiculous. That shouldn't be a tolerable amount. Let alone 200k
Just sold my boat.Havent been able to afford to use it for years,fuel cost. If you don't live near a good lake,forget it.
Randy. I totally enjoy your channel but what on earth are you talking about a strong economy the last 4 years. With “record” growth?? This is not been my experience.
You have to look at all the leading economic indicators that measure the strength of the economy. People try to equate things like the price of eggs to the strength of the economy when it really doesn’t have anything to do with it. Those issues are mainly price gouging on the part of the companies. In reality, it doesn’t matter what side of the aisle somebody is on politically presidents have very little to do with the economy. But they either take credit for it or get blamed for it by the opposing sides.
@@randyblaukatintuitiveYou are right, the rising price of eggs has to do with inflation, not the strength of the economy. Price gouging on eggs? Is this Putins price hike? The cost of energy has contributed significantly to everything in the economy and the cost is up significantly. Not to mention the out of control spending on woke giveaways and student loan bailout that was meant to buy votes. The economy along with the open border were the main contributors to the loss of the White House. Spin everything to the Democratic side as usual.
@@randyblaukatintuitivemore gas lighting!
@@DonG-c4j here’s the stats and facts. They speak for themselves.www.whitehouse.gov/cea/written-materials/2024/12/11/setting-the-record-straight-benchmarking-the-biden-years/
@@randyblaukatintuitive Really? You reciting a White House generated slant on this that tells half of the story and only highlights anything that may be positive. Just like you. Not seeing anything in the glossed over report regarding inflation ramping up to almost 10% or that in 2023 they OVERSTATED jobs by 800,000. They did a statement on the revision late on a Friday to try and bury it over the weekend so. Abe no one would notice. That relates to 1-4 jobs that were supposedly added in 2023 never existed. You will never mention anything but what you deem is positive with your political views and anything negative with the Trump administration. People will continue to call you out on this. By the way, probably more than 50% of your subscribers ( customers) don’t subscribe to your political views. So why do you persist in alienating them with this? Stick to fishing.
Most folks are in debt. Everything they have is financed, and they're one or two paychecks away from losing it all. American consumerism, keeping up with the joneses (except mr jones is financed up to his ears as well), call it whatever you want. But as long as folks keep buying them, it shows that the market can bear that price. You can make your voice really loud when you choose not to spend your money.
@@tiptoeurchin the most accurate answer in this whole post.
No study or source needed to see this
@@rosschappell7014 Something called Common Sense.
We did it to our selves and we keep doing it with everything if we quit buying the prices will drop
Pickin up a brand new Phoenix tomorrow. 19’6”. It’s way, way south of a $100K.
If you don’t wanna pay that, DON’T BUY ONE!
Out of curiosity what model and options? I'm on my 3rd boat and my current boat is a 2021 721 pro xp with a 250 merc. Came with the 36v ghost, and 2 12" hds lives. I got the upgraded trailer with the nice rims and added a hds live 16 and active target. Out the door is was 72k. Reason I'm asking is I just bought another house and it takes a little more effort getting g the boat in and out so I might wanna down size.
I see guys all the time fishing local tournaments who get a new, top of the line boat every few years. All I can think is, "Suckers".
Does it matter if it is a small fraction of their net worth? Now, if they use a loan, they are suckers...same as those who carry credit card balances and car loans. If you can't purchase a depreciating asset with cash, you can't afford it.
Financial disparity in this country is drastic randy u should see this everyday in the houses surrounding table rock and LOZ
No doubt
@@randyblaukatintuitive answer some fishing questions for a change.
I have a 1986 Champion 184 that was left for dead in a field,paid $750 for it and it’s now a trolling motor only boat for a reservoir that electric motors only allowed,it’s garbage on big lakes in most peoples eyes ,but it’s a Cadillac on the all electric reservoir
There will be no cap. LOL!!
I’ve got a 30k dollar pickup because I won’t pay the new price..ain’t no way I’m hooking a 80-100k boat behind it, not because I’m too good, my truck makes me money my boat won’t!
The economy isn't strong. Over 10% of credit cards are over 90 days delinquent. People are going into debt like crazy. Housing prices have exploded. I bought a used bass boat and will keep it maintained and if it needs a new outboard I will buy one and keep the hull. Bought the used boat with cash so I wouldn't have a payment. Saved for 5 years to buy it.
Keep doing what you gotta do brother. Been there, done that.
Tournaments can start division for under $40k boats or boats older than 20 years old
What economy are you talking about??????..........
I had in inflatable boat this past summer and fall just to get out on the water for about $100-$120 after buying a portable usb air pump and it was durable. Just paddles but it got me out there. One Sunday early evening at my local lake about a half hour before I went back to the boat ramp, another boat was getting off at the same boat ramp and I just hung out and fished until they were done.
I noticed it was a very nice and sporty looking bass boat with electronics, a nice motor, etc. I looked up the model number of the boat right there on my phone and I about passed out right there on the water.
That sucker was priced I believe at $98,000!!!!! Then of course one of the 3 guys backs his probably $20,000-$30000 truck up to it, maybe even more.
I thought to myself, "Who in God's name can justify, let alone afford to get a basically $100,000 hunk of metal just to go out and fish!!!!????
Now the more I am into fishing and watch fishing videos, it sounds like $100,000 boats are normal atleast right now. I just find that absurd. I would feel like a baller if I ran across an older jon boat with a trolling motor. I would still need something to pull it.
A new basic truck, if you can find one, goes for 40k to 50K. Loaded close to 75k.
The crisis isn’t high-dollar bass boats.
The crisis is the massive consumer debt that is evident in the sheer number of $150,000 bass boats, and $100,000 pickup trucks you see at fisheries everywhere.
Terrifying.
Prices are crazy and it will backfire.
Best part of this is that most of these people never bothered to learn how to fish.....but they sure look good going down the road!
I bought a 2006 skeeter zx200 2 years ago $13k it’s paid for very reliable gets the job done ! I’m floored with the price of boats and pickup trucks. I don’t agree with you on the economy the last few years. It’s been terrible actually.
As long as the idiots keep buying them, the companies will keep charging more.
$200k boat, easily $125k on a truck. The cost of basic tackle is crazy. I have a teenage son now. A trip to bass pro is really starting to hurt. I can blow $100 just on me, then he too wants to pick up this and that. I miss the good ole days of catching nite crawlers or digging worms. We have lost a lot in a lot of ways
Exactly...now I mostly bream fish with Dollar Store hot dogs LOL.
Worms still catch fish.
I just bought a new basscat cougar sp for 79k…paid cash…for me this is the top of what i was willing to spend and its pretty decked out
Respectfully, for the majority of Americans, the economy has been shite.
Many many people are working two or more jobs to afford rent and food. The worst inflation in 40 years. The government fudged employment numbers and changed the definition of recession. Covid killed jobs, allowing them to return isn’t actually job growth.
I'll never own a new boat....it's just reality and I'm fine with it
A fool and his money are soon parted.
Boat prices are crazy, but cost of these outboard motors is absolutely ridiculous! I'll stick with my O2 Bass Tracker I can take it almost anywhere darn air anywhere
I’m willing to bet a bass doesn’t know if it’s caught on a $499.00 kayak or a $200,000 super deluxe bass boat. It’s always been known that pretty lures are designed for catching anglers…….now it’s boats……human being are sooooooo dumb.
On the nosey!
Where can I get that jacket?