Old World Army Guide: Warriors of Chaos Overview
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Rob is overwhelmed by a sense of encroaching evil doers as he bunkers down and reviews the Warriors of Chaos for Warhammer the Old World.
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As a complete old world noob you guys have really made it an exciting time getting into the game. Loving the content and I looking forward to a new positive oldhammer community to grow and to be apart of the journey
Welcome to the team. Fun is the plan
This is the best WOC overview for TOW on TH-cam. Found you guys about a month ago and you are amazing. Thanks for doing what you do for the community, and I can’t wait for your WOC tactics content!
Yeah, its a big improvement on 'man reads book' on 2X speed, thats for sure.
Two overviews in two days. You’re spoiling us!
Thanks so much. Share it if you can
Amazing work as always. In particular I like the powerpoint style so I can follow along instead of "man reads rulebook" blurry images.
Thankyou. Took hours to make all the slides
You really explain this stuff well. I've had 2 boxes each of knights, warriors and hounds sitting in my closet for the last decade. Mostly because of your videos, I'm finally getting motivated to put them together (on the new bases, thank god) and paint them.
This is inspiring to me so thankyou. I made this over the course of a very long two days so having an impact like this is huge!! Thankyou
This was a dangerous watch…
My FIRST WHFB army was a mortals of chaos, slaanesh force with a big block of 40 chosen warriors of slaanesh, great weapons and shields. Lots of fun in my teenage years back in 5/6th
Then the day the killed the old world, I’d JUST finished spraying a Tzeentch WOC army… sad times.
But I also have a Krondys brand new on sprue under my desk, who’s begging to be a chaos dragon 👀😅
HE IS BEGGING TO BE ONE!! HET IT DONE AND SHOW ME
Gimme that sweet empire overview. For real, this type of video is amazing, just great formatting.
I'm on it but I'm gonna get some sleep first
Best TOW review channel on TH-cam. You guys are doing great things. I hope to see you all at an event later this year! Thank you for this awesome content!
the amount of content your are pumping out right now..jesus! LOVE IT!
Hope it's good!
@@SquareBasedOldWorld anything you put out right now is a huge mental boost for a dad with 3 on his evening strolls with the stroller in the cold dark of northern Sweden haha. Keep up the good work!
The format of these videos is just perfect and your (and Val's) passion for the Old World is really contagious.
I am now looking forward to the follow up. Maybe a video for each faction on army ideas + mini ranges to put them on the table?
Enjoying this series of episodes. Really useful to have a analysis that is based on reading the rules not just reading is the rules😅
This is a wonderful, super detailed and produced video with all the details that are missing elsewhere. Perfect!
MY pleasure x
Yo Rob! You have totally nailed these videos. Keep up the great work budy.
I'm gonna try my hardest dude thanks!!
This army is going to look insane with the new Slaves to Darkness sculpts imo! Very nice overviews, keep it up!!
Thats wht i am doing for my army - Rob
Already made a start! Not sure what to do with the chosen, i saw a box for a decent price and couldn't resist, but they really are big detaily boys. If i didn't already have a couple of foot heroes they might have been perfect though, kinda like what you can potentially do with some of the Warcry/Underworlds/Elite AoS stuff for other armies.
@SquareBasedOldWorld I am doing the same, bought 4 of the Christmas box sets + 40 extra warriors, some sorcerers, and a manticore lord.
Super helpful resource as a way of reviewing an opponent’s army. Thanks!
This Video really helped me decide some things about a Nurgle Cav army I've been wanting to build. Excellent work and thank you.
My favorite idea for warriors is a tzeentch brick with lots of wizards in it using the skull of katam. Skull+mark of tzeentch means all the wizards would get +2 to cast on top of their base wizard level, and you can buy spell familiars to get an extra spell on each of them. With steed of shadows from demonology you could move the unit around pretty freely and vomit out an insane amount of casts.
Terribly expensive, but sounds fun.
I'm a Fantasy noob, how many hero units can you put into a block of troops?
@@Inthrylius In 6th &7th you could join with all characters, aslong as they had a basesize of up to a cavalry base. Risky though, as 1 bad combat round could wipe that full unit of the table. Would not recommend.
You must have as many normal unit models in the front rank as characters, so I'd you're 4 or 5 wide, you have 2 characters, 6 or 7, 3 and so on. Probably rarely a good idea to run more than 2 anyway and even 2 is a lot outside armies like empire where they have lots of cheap characters who provide buffs and utility.
Goblins can possibly get away with it to. But really make sure you got some good LD. It sucks to lose a 600 pt unit because of a single Panic, terror or casualty test. Possibly GG.
@@chad4858
Amazing! Thank you, just starting to collect/print chaos warriors! 🎉❤
WoC look so fun, great sandbox army. Building up the Beastmen Vanguard box right now. Thanks for the overview videos they have been a nice insight into the different factions. Looking forward to the Beastie Boyz overview.
This format of faction focus is by far the best out there for the old world.
Really liking the idea of taking both a Hellcannon and an allied Cygor at 1,999pts- primarily to add another source of decent ranged firepower- and also to seriously mess up some mages!
This was so informative and it answered a bunch of my questions but it raised so many more! I thought this was the dumb dumb smash army but it looks like there are a million and one ways to build, equip and mark your units. Looking forward to finally putting together my Slaves to Darkness boxes and starting an Old World Warriors of Chaos army. Thanks Rob!
As ever, top notch content! I eagerly await the installment for Beastmen.
Another great army overview, looking forward to the Beastman one as I've been build a Beastman army in anticipation of the Old World for the last 6 months or so
Love it🎉 I used to run a unit of 15 marauder horse men , fully loaded with a battle standard bearer.
I really enjoy these types of videos. To the point, focussed, informative. No goofing around. Keep it up.
Brilliantly done enthusiastic review. Bring on the rest please!
Very impressive presentation again. If I ever field my Chaos army (Dwarfs will be first) it will look like what it is which is something out of 3rd Edition. We'll have to agree to disagree about where Beastmen ought to be seen as they'll be there as allies and I guess there will be a Daemon Prince of Khorne - almost certainly completely the wrong way to run one - so I can use my 80s Bloodthirster. Thugs for Marauders, a hound handler to slow my hounds down as I love and have the model etc. So not competitive at all, but I really enjoyed the rundown and good to get a first idea of what sort of things others might be looking to do with the list.
So much quality content!
I have Data Cards for Orc and Goblin Tribes ready.
Let's gooo!!!!
Another brilliant video. This is the place to go for Old World content!!
MARCCCCCXXXXXX LOVE YA
For the love of the dark gods, thank you so much for this! I am soooo incredibly pumped for TOW, and you guys are partially and thankfully to blame! Now let the Chaos begin!
Our pleasure!!! Let people know about the video if you like it
Glad I found this video. I've been wanting to do a Warriors of Chaos army, but didn't know where to even start.
These army reviews are the best on TH-cam. Very well considered, concise and useful. I’m subscribing! Thanks and hope to see the Dwarven Holds one soon.
Great job with these reviews, Rob. I hadn't watched your content before this channel because I'm just not personally an AOS guy. Incredibly well done.
Awesome reveiw! You catched the essence of chaos. Wothout skullcrushers, for now, the many monsters from this list looks like good fun!
Great video as always. Your enthusiasm for the Chaos boys really comes through - I think you are salivating at the prospect of that Chaos Lord on Dragon 😂
And tzentch casting line!
Honestly spawn and forsaken are kinda nutty too
This army list looks frightening...such a dichotomy from the Wood Elf list, would love to see these two armies face off. Great video Rob.
PRAISE HASHUT!!! 🔥🎩
Our HELLCANNON returns!! Hopefully the cannon will make the Chaos Dwarf list as well, or at least be allied in.
Also, does this mean that the miniature will be going back into production…?!
I'm pretty certain it will, in forgeworld resin. I have an old one in metal, but I'd love a second.
@@frankkowalewski6702 I prefer metal any day, but I know the Hellcannon has a reputation for being difficult in metal so I’d settle for a resin release on this occasion!! It’s been hard to track one down that’s complete on the secondary market!
Are they doing Chaos Dwarves for TOW? 👀
@@cavemansam8400 unfortunately no, beyond the free rules pdf, they’ve said categorically that they won’t release any new models or re-release any old models for Chaos Dwarfs or other legacy factions… :(
However, because the Hellcannon is in the Chaos list, it’ll likely be the exception to that rule and get re-released, which is something to get excited about!!
@@PRAISE_HASHUTOah yes that was it. CD’s released as legends. Classic GW reaming themselves over IP and trying to make as much money as possible but when the true opportunity to print money slaps them in the face they don’t know what’s hit them cos they don’t play their own game for longer than 5 minutes. SMH.
Remember that flaming attacks only bypass regeneration if the target has flammable, that makes the tzeentch mark very narrow. Good job with this videos btw
Yes certainly. Regen is going to be an issue
Awesome breakdown! Looking forward to watching them all
Will get them out when we can
These videos are very well done. I am very much enjoying them and the channel!
I’ve not seen anyone bring up the Warband rule allowing you to reroll charges.
It’s great and I think it’s being slept on.
Great video and really helpful to see snap shots of the stats and your thoughts on combos or using certain units within the game. Eagerly await further videos, consider me hooked!
Fantastic video again. Just love having these playing in the background as I'm working on other stuff.
My favourite source of Warhammer fantasy info. Love your work, Rob
Thanks so so much
I really appreciate these videos. Really informative and succinct. I'm looking forward to when you do Beastmen!
This is how it should be done. Great content.
I'm glad I never finished my Slaves to Darkness army for AOS because now it looks like I'm sold on getting some square bases and playing them in the Old World.
Mini Wargaming Forge has converter bases!
Keep up the good work, loving this type of content
You and facehammer tv are making top level OW content!
This video oozes passion that you're known for Rob, digging out my underworld chaos warriors and giving them TOW treatment!
Thank you Rob. Been waiting for this! AoS chaos warriors with their flowing capes still need careful positioning on the 30mm bases to ensure they can be ranked up.
Great overview. Curious about chaos and love the kitbashing potential but with 4 current old world army projects I'll leave this one for the moment. They do like they are gonna be tough.
Great review! Love the hype generation for the community!
I think with the changes to how magic works I might finally have to abandon Mono-Khorne and embrace the the Inner Nurgle Caster.. As excited as I am to smash units of Knights into puny mortals, I am worried about what we'll do against the elite of other armies without Step Up! Most of our units don't seem to have weapons that let us fight in extra ranks, and maybe I just played against Ogres too much in 8th but even with our toughness there are definitely things out there that can chew us up and spit us out.
I never comment on videos but thanks for making this you and Val got me so hyped for chaos and old world it’s all I can think about.
Another great run down, love these videos.
Glad you like them!
Really enjoyed the breakdowns. Nobody does it better.
The production quality of these releases and the positive impacts on the community are second to none... and no, I'm not talking about GW... it's the #Based team raising the bar (again).
Thanks for the kind words #squareblessed
As a potential Old World player, I would love to see a sample army list at the end of this kind of video. Please give us some inspiration lists as we're in the process of wrapping our heads around the game. I'd love to see the difference between a 1,000 point list and a 2,000 point list. (Beyond the units themselves, I'd love to see how a "veteran" player upgrades their units. What does an elite unit of Chaos Knights "need" for their upgrade bells and whistles? Etc etc.)
These videos are popping off!
Beautiful video, very informative and nice editing and explanation. Love the enthusiasm!❤
A constructive criticism is; I would have included the enhancements too (arcane items, magic items, weapons like runesword and armour here in the video too). To see as player what they do :).
This is one of my big army considerations along with orcs and goblins, empire of man and wood elves.
I can't wait to get this army on the table. I'm an old school Lizardmen player and decided to build an army in the Ravening Hordes book. I'm building my Warriors of Chaos with the new kits and it looks awesome. I can't wait to get some Lords on monstrous mounts and go slap into combat with bricks of dudes.
Chaos Lord, on chaos steed, in a block a chaos knights, on the charge. Stuff of dreams
BSB buddy beside him taking names!
Thank you very much for this outstanding presentation of Warriors of Chaos :-D
My pleasure
Wrote this so you’d be excited!! Thanks for the working so hard on this!
Would love to see Orcs and Goblins next.
It's coming soon
Grat video, has got me hyped. Very keen on Warriors of Chaos for my first Old Wold army. Wondered if you thought of showing some example lists at all?
What worked well in the olden days was a bunch of small units of Khorne marauders armed with flails. Yeah, they would eventually die, but they were so cheap you could field a good number of units and a charge from these guys would hurt way beyond their point value.
Let's go! So much stuff I want to theorycraft and try out on the table, it's going to be difficult to not end up with nearly all of my points spent on three units hahaha Great video, and one I'm definitely going to be rewatching a few more times
Almost finished painting my S to D army for AoS and I have a 4th edition Warhammer Fantasy Chaos army too. Not sure I will be able to resist a 3rd army of Chaos warriors
Absolutely lapping up any old world content you guys put out. Top tier stuff.
This army with the new AoS sculpts will be just stunning!! Going to dig into this video as I have been warriors of chaos curious before but just wasn’t into the older minis.
Also can’t wait to see what Rob does with his army for them!!
The Hell Cannon is just a beautiful miniature, excited to see it return to glory.
Great video! Thanks for making these!!!
I feel like each vid just gets better!
Love the ideal of lone Chaos Trolls bobbling around the battlefield 😂
In 8th I loved running champions on Disc O Tzeentch. They were really cheap and all they needed was a great weapon to really cause some problems in the back line. No discs in Old World (fingers crossed for the future) so maybe time to look at chariots 🤔
this absolutely rocks, thanks Rob!
These faction reviews are quality. Looking forward to High elves in particular.
On the way but be a few days sorry. They take ages to make
Building my dwarf army, but have some old nurgle warriors. I like my boys solid. Paint up a demon prince and I'll have an army.
Havent chosen between wood elf or chaos yet, but so happy that my 2 choices were the first 2 😂
You lucky son of a hahaha
These vids have got my nostalgia-sense tingling. Not sure I'm ready to take the plunge just yet, but it might be time to see if I can make some movement trays for the round bases I already have.
My only tiny complaint is that every time you use the term 'economies of scale' I'm left worried that my understanding of that phrase is different to yours. Economies of scale are cost advantages that come with doing a lot of one thing. So for example, if I cook one portion of chips or 20 portions of chips, I might still be using the same amount of power to get my fryer hot, and the same amount of oil, and hence have economies of scale on my cost per portion of chips. I'm not quite sure how we get economies of scale in TOW. I guess if we had a buff piece that gave all Nurgle Warriors a better save, and we were only running it for that buff, then once we have it, we might as well have lots of Nurgle Warriors, to spread the cost of the buff?
Now, back to me watching the video, and trying to forget my economics degree :)
TIM I LOVE YOU - ROB
Good job, very clear, thanks a lot!
Love the review!! Hoping to see dwarfs soon ❤
Really good content. Given me loads to think about. Thank you! I feel like the mark of Slaanesh is a bit lacklustre compared to the others which is a real shame as the new daemon prince model looks incredible with the Slaanesh head!
Finally get to use my Demon Stone throwers. Never was a fan of the kill the Front and you don't get to attack back from 6th. Gotta get some games in. It just seems like Chosen bunkers and chosen knight hammers are the way to go with Some hex and buff spells while dropping strength 5 mini pies in the enemy
Chaos Trolls:
"I'm not really sure if I love them or really love them."
LOL
Trolls are awesome. I've got a bunch of the retro Stone Trolls I'll be using as Chaos Trolls (will be painted in "Chaos" colours).
"...loads of solo Trolls."
This!!! Awesome idea. I was going to run units of 3, but units of 1 sounds way better.
Great overview, thanks!
A brilliant and concise primer with very little fat on it, good things man! Although it still makes me twitch when I hear Khorne + Wizard. I think the lore can give way for the multi option Chaos, so much scope with the marks. Shame they got rid of the flesh hounds, super fast magic immune skirmish units were fun.
I really like these reviews, although I'd really appreciate a couple sample lists at the end to build toward for new players.
Those will be in future videos
I'll be looking for that beautiful Nurgle +1 Toughness, plus +1 Toughness from Gaze of the Gods table for some hard to hit meat packs.
Cheers for the upload Rob! Love you work.
I'm rolling "Gaze of the Gods" every turn 🗿
You ain't no coward
More demon prince build idea's would be great! Iv been playing with possible layouts for a few days and have started going crazy! Also any idea on what size of warrior\chosen blocks will be optimal?
TELL ME THEM
We wanna hear your builds on deamon princes!
@@SquareBasedOldWorld
Excellent video really pumped for this
Thanks for this, it is very helpful to get a head start - noted the Chaos Warriors show as being WS5 and the Champion WS4 so not sure if both WS4 or WS5 was for the Champion.
I've been looking at some of the oldest models I own and thinking how they couid be rolled into some very old school looking units of Thugs/Maraduers to back up a few points sink units.
I'm very tempted.
You can do this
Ooh darn, was kinda wanting to figure the list out for myself but now Rob has done it for me weeks before i can get my hands on the book, Old World problems i guess.
It's just another banging video from the best Old World YT channel. #squarebased #squarebass #fishshapes
#squareblessed
Nice video. Lazy on not having the CHAOS GIANT!