He's not wrong though, nobody is talking about it but simultaneously everyone knows it's the best hand cannon right now. It's just overshadowed by autos.
its not hidden.... but all people are talking about is autos rn...also aint nobody chasing rappid hit either but clearly you cant listen and understand ..
Igneous beats autos cause it can easily outrange them. 140s are the ones losing cause they only have 1m extra range over meta autos or the same range if we talking precisions. I swap to igneous when i play top tier players even tho I've like 68% HS on summoner.@@legoshi6531
Literally all of the PvP talk lately has been about autos and saying otherwise is disingenuous. That doesn't mean that Igneous hasn't still been the better weapon
@@thatoneguyftl2530tf the videos have been made already since its inception in d2😂 ffs if zk isnt talking about it. Benny is, if he isnt frost is, Etc etc. its already spoken off they just find the time to recycle the video😂
I don’t mind that igneous is the strongest 120 hand cannon. You get it from an endgame pvp activity: the same place where you get the best of every archetype like shayuras, immortal, summoner, and messenger. In short terms: this gun should be as good as it is.
@@BombStars He's not wrong. Neither are you though. It makes sense the best pvp weapons come from pvp but a lot of people don't like this or act like it's an issue.
Don't think iggy should be nerfed tbh. Less ease of use over pulses so it's fine. Plus like yall said it comes from going flawless (adept) so it should be the best
Zk must be using Internet Explorer because wtf do you mean no one is talking about this gun? Everyone was already talking about a Precision Instrument Igneous when the TWID for the PvP changes came out. This is 2 month old news.
my first Adept roll since it’s return was KeepAway/PrecisionInstrument, I have a dozen vaulted in case PI gets nerfed but that precise roll has been my main since release… and now with Checkmate it’s even more cracked. It was heavily slept on when released and now it’s everyone’s targeted roll
Fluted barrel/ high cal rounds/ keep away/ eye of the storm/ range masterwork is still my favorite roll and this is the only 120 I love, nothing else compares. Not Adept either but, still feels good to use.
I have fluted barrel instead and Encore, with ricochet and Precision instrument Handling masterwork. It feels good but should I keep it or grind for Keep away instead or Rapid hit?
Hey Zk! Thanks for the video. Fun fact, if you get fluted barrel on there with a range mw and adept handling mod, you can still have 80 range exactly and up to 60 handling with up to an extra 10 stability than what you have rn. Hope this catches your eye, have a good one
I see top tier players using Precision instrument on Iggy. I did not realize the difference it makes to lead with a body shot followed by two headshots for the 3 tap. TY I got a regular to drop with Keep Away and Precision. I am very happy with it
My favorite adept is shayuras wrath with elemental capacitor . my role I have has fluted barrel , tac mag , killing wind and elemental capacitor with a stability master work . got like 34 k kills on it . I mean I don’t need peace keepers to have max handling. i hope we can get enhanced perks on all weapons soon that would be epic is all
Hi guys I finally went flawless last night so I have to Iggy's drop which one should I use first has corkscrew ric rounds rangefinder incan or golden tri.2nd one has smallbore high cal fragile and opening shot or incan ps both have range mws
I like the igneous but I’m shit with it I’m on console by the way. I have some good rolls, heal clip precision instrument, heal clip golden tricorn encore celerity keep away moving target quick draw rampage some old some new some adept but I’m always ass with them. Any tips that’s not not just get gud
Bro as I clicked on this video as I got a trials engram and went to open I got precision instrument and heal clip which would probably be my god role just because I can deal damage over time and then and heal me and my teammates at the same time.
So you changed your mind about rap it hit? I remember in one of twitch streams you answered my question about keep away and rapit hit… and you had told me you rather have keep away.
I've gotten Rapid Hit + Precision Instrument twice now but I deleted them both cause the roll sounded weird and I hate hand cannons, kinda regretting it now 😭
Facts I use to be the same way deleted all my roses and igneous hammers but I’m a console so it just was a weird weapon archetype for me to use at first just had to learn how to actually be accurate with them
For hc’s I have 61% hs ratio on controller profile and 87% hs ratio on mnk profile. Its an input strength, not a weapon strength. Sure up close fights are harder but mid range is amazing for mnk where I feel like controller starts to suffer from higher recoil and less aim assist 🤷♂️
So I was like yeah, yeah, igneous hammer is good, we know. Then I saw your intro and now I’m intrigued lol my guess is 2x golden tricorn and radiant-edit I was wrong lol
Guess what mate Summoner (Adept) is melting its brokenkeep firing when they peak cause second peak they dead and good news is that when Lunas Howl comes back that paired with Mountaintop will be the best load out
@@AxisChurchDevotee - Trying to. I used bows exclusively for 2 years, then Bungie made them great for everyone, then nerfed them in the ground. I thought I knew how to peak shoot, but it's completely different when you have to peak 3 times vs 2 to win a fight.
You're testing it backwards. That perk reads "sustained damage increases precision damage". Your shot in the body is obviously not benefiting. If you go body, crit, crit you will three tap 10 resil.
Literally. If you come across any screen shot of a player's loadout via a forum or directly in the game... you see that yellow blocked blue and red boom stick up top, purple blocked clunky golden IH directly beneath. It's troubling how one brain can be capable of such insane skill output whilst simultaneously flailing in 2ft of water with floaties
Prosecuter is no.1 in PVP now Igneous Hammer to hard to use you get 1 shot in and you can't drop the second because you dead by team shot Messenger (Adept) is better
I sometimes think ol' Mush has some form of mental complication. Top player - without question. Inexplicably makes a video about the only handcannon sweats have been using for months and months..... as if anyone didn't know this. I mean, he knew this... Am I having a stroke or is this really his outlook? Did he just forget about every moment prior to this?
Don’t nerf endgame loot that isn’t og prenerf lord of wolves/shatter dive strong. Otherwise why grind harder for a weapon that does the same as something you can get from a simple patrol on the edz 🤦🏼♂️ zk, you trippin
@rickiboulter3053 that's not true at all bro. Having to get over 6 hits an not even being guaranteed the two tap. Will rampage on stack 1 was a 2 tap bo matter what.
"nobody is talking about this weapon" lmao bro acting like he found a hidden gem
He's not wrong though, nobody is talking about it but simultaneously everyone knows it's the best hand cannon right now. It's just overshadowed by autos.
its not hidden.... but all people are talking about is autos rn...also aint nobody chasing rappid hit either
but clearly you cant listen and understand ..
Nobody talking about it? Why's everyone using it 😂
Igneous beats autos cause it can easily outrange them.
140s are the ones losing cause they only have 1m extra range over meta autos or the same range if we talking precisions.
I swap to igneous when i play top tier players even tho I've like 68% HS on summoner.@@legoshi6531
D2 youtubers be like that.
We’re really saying we were not talking about igneous hammer. This has been top of the meta for months now.
Literally all of the PvP talk lately has been about autos and saying otherwise is disingenuous. That doesn't mean that Igneous hasn't still been the better weapon
try years
He could have worded it differently for sure lol.
@@thatoneguyftl2530tf the videos have been made already since its inception in d2😂 ffs if zk isnt talking about it. Benny is, if he isnt frost is, Etc etc. its already spoken off they just find the time to recycle the video😂
I don’t mind that igneous is the strongest 120 hand cannon. You get it from an endgame pvp activity: the same place where you get the best of every archetype like shayuras, immortal, summoner, and messenger. In short terms: this gun should be as good as it is.
Destiny players when the best pvp weapons come from actual pvp modes and aren't craftable and optained from pve😧😧😧
@@BombStars He's not wrong. Neither are you though. It makes sense the best pvp weapons come from pvp but a lot of people don't like this or act like it's an issue.
@@BombStars I'm agreeing with you
Don't think iggy should be nerfed tbh. Less ease of use over pulses so it's fine. Plus like yall said it comes from going flawless (adept) so it should be the best
@@Jim_GG agreed
Zk must be using Internet Explorer because wtf do you mean no one is talking about this gun? Everyone was already talking about a Precision Instrument Igneous when the TWID for the PvP changes came out. This is 2 month old news.
my first Adept roll since it’s return was KeepAway/PrecisionInstrument, I have a dozen vaulted in case PI gets nerfed but that precise roll has been my main since release… and now with Checkmate it’s even more cracked. It was heavily slept on when released and now it’s everyone’s targeted roll
Quickdraw/celerity was stronger than I expected. Glad I didn't delete it after getting a killing wind/E capacitor roll before WQ.
Rents due next week, we already knew all this
Fluted barrel/ high cal rounds/ keep away/ eye of the storm/ range masterwork is still my favorite roll and this is the only 120 I love, nothing else compares. Not Adept either but, still feels good to use.
Awesome content, thank you Zk!!
I still love my rapid hit celerity roll 😁
rapid hit and golden tricorn is my roll, and I love it!
Had this roll for a long time. Pretty sure Aztecross said awhile back it was gonna get a buff. Which it did in a way.
I got rapid hit and golden treacle but i do need that precision instrument
I have fluted barrel instead and Encore, with ricochet and Precision instrument Handling masterwork. It feels good but should I keep it or grind for Keep away instead or Rapid hit?
Damn.. igneous? Never heard of that, how do I get it 🙄
bro says “not many people are using this gun”
bruv that’s all I see in trials 💀
Bruhhh i cannot believe he said that out his mouth 😂😂😂
Ong the 4th most used gun on trials report.cant believe he said that bs 😂
😂😂😂
been using precision instrement with keep away for a while now. i got a heal clip/ golden tricorn also that puts in work
This little known weapon the Igneous Hammer (Adept)
Hey Zk! Thanks for the video. Fun fact, if you get fluted barrel on there with a range mw and adept handling mod, you can still have 80 range exactly and up to 60 handling with up to an extra 10 stability than what you have rn. Hope this catches your eye, have a good one
I see top tier players using Precision instrument on Iggy. I did not realize the difference it makes to lead with a body shot followed by two headshots for the 3 tap. TY I got a regular to drop with Keep Away and Precision. I am very happy with it
My favorite adept is shayuras wrath with elemental capacitor . my role I have has fluted barrel , tac mag , killing wind and elemental capacitor with a stability master work . got like 34 k kills on it . I mean I don’t need peace keepers to have max handling. i hope we can get enhanced perks on all weapons soon that would be epic is all
i got the first God Role of Igneous Hammer when it first came out
I got the scout with this and It’s great
Will this be good with corkscrew. Ric rounds. And rapid hit and precision instrument.
Hi guys I finally went flawless last night so I have to Iggy's drop which one should I use first has corkscrew ric rounds rangefinder incan or golden tri.2nd one has smallbore high cal fragile and opening shot or incan ps both have range mws
He’s tripping, this is the only HC you see other than maybe rose 🤣
Or Ace of Spades.
Or Crimson on console.
or thorn
@@223ndogyou barely see crimson anymore,id know i play on console
@@Ui_Raizen I still see it. I’ve used Crimson since they fixed its damage like 12 seasons ago and I’ve got over 32,000 kills with it.
Stares at hunter "why didn't he heal"
Almost have the same roll, god it's beautiful
Bro I have the exact same perks as your hand cannon (adept)❤
Question Zk how do I solar warlock in trilas
I got a heal clip precision instrument and I love it
Same bro all I've used
Zk and pure chill be smoking some weird stuff sometimes
Fluted Barrel / Ricochet Rounds / Keep Away / Precision Instrument + Range masterwork. I got that roll last year glad I kept it
I haven't played destiny in so long, but I still have my Igneous Hammer. Love that gun so much.
is precision instrument good on other weapons like scouts?
ya, on 260's and 180's it lowers ttk by 1shot and on 200rpm it changes the body to head ratio.
Wow igneous hammer is insane !
I like the igneous but I’m shit with it I’m on console by the way. I have some good rolls, heal clip precision instrument, heal clip golden tricorn encore celerity keep away moving target quick draw rampage some old some new some adept but I’m always ass with them. Any tips that’s not not just get gud
This the first roll I got. I have rangefinder instead of rapid unfortunately
Bro as I clicked on this video as I got a trials engram and went to open I got precision instrument and heal clip which would probably be my god role just because I can deal damage over time and then and heal me and my teammates at the same time.
The one shot body shot from shottys at distance is still something I can't explain
unc popped out for this one
Mnk hip fires headshots like it's last word 😂
Dfizzle has been chirping about precision instrument ever since it came out
Yeah but it was shit until the sandbox changes.
@@simplyfitness892 ehhh I'm not so sure about that, it would always kill void overshield titans where as without it wouldn't
So you changed your mind about rap it hit? I remember in one of twitch streams you answered my question about keep away and rapit hit… and you had told me you rather have keep away.
Been using this for like 2 seasons at least lol.
Don’t forget round robin exist and you când craft it also it can two tap
I've gotten Rapid Hit + Precision Instrument twice now but I deleted them both cause the roll sounded weird and I hate hand cannons, kinda regretting it now 😭
Why
Facts I use to be the same way deleted all my roses and igneous hammers but I’m a console so it just was a weird weapon archetype for me to use at first just had to learn how to actually be accurate with them
Got here as soon as i could, yes igneous is op, and probaly will be until d3
For hc’s I have 61% hs ratio on controller profile and 87% hs ratio on mnk profile. Its an input strength, not a weapon strength. Sure up close fights are harder but mid range is amazing for mnk where I feel like controller starts to suffer from higher recoil and less aim assist 🤷♂️
Oh boy target lock for hand cannons
Igneous is literally the only HC i use right now
The trials 120 should be the best hc in the game in pvp ya think. On controller, precision instrument isn't really used imo
Zk how u been family
Tried to get this roll but never got it unfortunately
So I was like yeah, yeah, igneous hammer is good, we know. Then I saw your intro and now I’m intrigued lol my guess is 2x golden tricorn and radiant-edit I was wrong lol
Guess what mate Summoner (Adept) is melting its brokenkeep firing when they peak cause second peak they dead and good news is that when Lunas Howl comes back that paired with Mountaintop will be the best load out
I got rapid hit & rampage 👀🔥
YO ZK!
6:48 I wish I had those bot lobbies
In 6v6 I understand but in comp or trials It’ll be lacking
I haven't used HC's in PvP in years. I have a PI Iggy, but I simply am not good enough to hit headshots fast enough to outgun an auto.
Are you using peak shooting? That's the best way to do it.
@@AxisChurchDevotee - Trying to. I used bows exclusively for 2 years, then Bungie made them great for everyone, then nerfed them in the ground. I thought I knew how to peak shoot, but it's completely different when you have to peak 3 times vs 2 to win a fight.
@@rogerhuston8287 You'll get used to it.
Ive been using precision on it since the revamp perks came out, glad to see people taking back their comments that I was on crack.
I am not that good with 120's, but have have 3 solid rolls (only missing that new perk) but every pvp game 60% of the server is using one igneous 😅
Literally everywhere lol
I love you zk
I have like 20 rolls of this but don’t like any of them. Lol I’m just a scout rifle kinda guy I guess.
This is the last season to get it too
How did i get 1 shot? you wasn't full health
if the enemy guardian is a male, the groin area should be a place where you can hit Precision shots.
igneous vs rose?
“not enough people are using igneous” it’s been in top 5 most used weapons in trials for months
Years.
Keep away eos still slaps
only against hunters
bro, did u test golden tricorn? Just better 😅
Poly-gon-al
You're testing it backwards. That perk reads "sustained damage increases precision damage". Your shot in the body is obviously not benefiting. If you go body, crit, crit you will three tap 10 resil.
Full bore on igneous is so trash 😂but if they nerf igneous that is why i farmed an Encore/precision instrument from trials 💯
No one talks about it? Have it gone two weeks since I saw a video about it?
I’m out dueling this thing with my scout rifle.
People were just forgetting about it too don’t say anything ive been slaying with this during this auto meta
It blows me away that he can be this accurate with a 45 stability roll. 45 stability on controller doesnt even feel good at all. Like what
Same. 68 feels mandatory for me.
people talking about igneous like its a "high skill" gun. Bud, if u aim at their chest ur gonna get a headshot
Everyone runs this with conditional finality
Literally.
If you come across any screen shot of a player's loadout via a forum or directly in the game... you see that yellow blocked blue and red boom stick up top, purple blocked clunky golden IH directly beneath.
It's troubling how one brain can be capable of such insane skill output whilst simultaneously flailing in 2ft of water with floaties
Bro said igneous adept already clicked away no kidding bro no kidding can’t get it if everyone already got it
Your Honor, the prosecutor demands the nerf of this gun
fullbore gotta be the worse possible barrel imo
Wow, a handcannon being overpowered? No way………
only when used by decent players
ive never really met anyone like that in pub
only in comp and trials
Prosecuter is no.1 in PVP now Igneous Hammer to hard to use you get 1 shot in and you can't drop the second because you dead by team shot Messenger (Adept) is better
So in your slow mode explanation, its two head and one crotch 😂. Love to see it.
No, it’s 1 crotch, 2 head
Ah so a weapon ill never get
120 hand cannons need a nerf tired of them
You just suck at the game 😂😂😂
My keep away and eye of storm/open shot does the same thing
Trolling right?
Nah. If iggy doesn’t have PI, it’s not meta anymore.
I sometimes think ol' Mush has some form of mental complication.
Top player - without question.
Inexplicably makes a video about the only handcannon sweats have been using for months and months.....
as if anyone didn't know this.
I mean, he knew this...
Am I having a stroke or is this really his outlook? Did he just forget about every moment prior to this?
These weapons need a nerf if they want to keep the sandbox balanced.
Don’t nerf endgame loot that isn’t og prenerf lord of wolves/shatter dive strong. Otherwise why grind harder for a weapon that does the same as something you can get from a simple patrol on the edz 🤦🏼♂️ zk, you trippin
The gun no one is really talking about except the 100000000 videos on TH-cam with people talking about it 🤷
Bungie - we dont want 2 tap 120's.............here we are yet again
They didn't say they didn't want it. Back in the day rampage was just so strong on them. Heck kill clip let's you two tap
@theveryamericaneagle3657 this is literally better than what rampage was doing
@rickiboulter3053 that's not true at all bro. Having to get over 6 hits an not even being guaranteed the two tap. Will rampage on stack 1 was a 2 tap bo matter what.
@theveryamericaneagle3657 yes but now with the changes rampage doesn't and can't and you don't need a kill to proc this perk. Very easy to do
@@rickiboulter3053 Hmm interesting
I rather use sturm
Every weapon is OP in pvp if you are a cheater that turns DMT into an autumn wind somehow and use aimbots.
Yes cause autos and smgs exist and are cucking hand cannons
literally everyone knows about this.