The Last Lamb of God
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What I’m wondering about most is the boy’s poor mother. You leave your son with your father while you go to bring back money, and then find that this has happened? I can’t imagine the torment and anger she must have experienced. Having not faced imminent doom the way all the others had it would be impossible, I would think, not to feel betrayed and alienated.
Nick C If you can find info, I'd love to see it. In English or Spanish, I couldn't find anything reliable that told her side of the story. I, too, am very curious about her response.
The boy was chosen because he was an orphan and therefore was expandable. So it was basically her fault. If she believes in the history and so on i guess she „should“ have felt guilt, since her leaving was the act that made him an orphan. This of cause is me trying to look through their eyes. By my own moral standards i am completely with what you said...:/
Canal 13 did a coverage some years ago including a short interview. th-cam.com/video/8b-27_LijeM/w-d-xo.html
@@sebastiangamonal7784 wow that is sad to hear her.
@@Falkano Imagine your child being sacrificed and someone comes up to you telling you it's your fault.
Man, you sure don't go for "puff pieces", do you? It's sobering to think this happened the year I was born, that in 1960 people could be so desperate as to do what to our eyes would be unthinkable.
As you pointed out, it was significant that the entire village was required to witness the sacrifice. It wasn't done in secret so that everyone not directly involved could just accept the fact of the sacrifice without knowing the details. In essence, when the villagers begged the warlock to do whatever was necessary, they had to own the result. It would be really easy to dismiss this as primitive savagery, except that the villagers in question had an ancient and complex set of beliefs that meant that this kind of horrific act was necessary.
I wonder, not only about the grandfather, but the mother of the boy working in Santiago as well as the rest of the villagers who witnessed the act. Did they just accept it as a requirement for survival, or did they realize it was going way too far? Did the next generations, exposed to the modern science surrounding earthquakes and tsunami reflect on what their parents and grandparents did in 1960? No matter how you look at it, it's a story with no real upside :(
TV has enough puff. I'm here for the grit. :)
The Spaniards didn't put an end to it. Nor, by any stretch of the imagination, could they have been considered less violent towards the children of the Mapuche, who they cut off the hands and feet of as a warning to their families against rebellion.
Who could fathom the fear and confusion they felt.
Dunno, the Spaniards also worked like 3 million people to death at Potosi.
The Spaniards did not have to do it, and the ones who did were most likely not appalled at the time. You must realize that all humans are capable of being savage in the right circumstances, savagery is not limited to a single people as you might claim. Every Empire has fascist tending, the Spanish one included.
That was horrifying to listen to. I cannot imagine the horror of being there at that time, let alone the horror of being the grandfather or of being the child.
Or... Get this. Being the mother learning of the news of what happened to her child when she was away trying to provide for him.
I wish I didn't see this.... I have a two year old son I just can't fathom this...... How much cruelty are us humans capable of....
Let alone the horror of being the child himself...
Man, you sure know how to tell a story.
Thank you.
Because he has listened to many people's stories, in many parts of the world,
Perhaps western people identify with stories told by similar people, or
perhaps it is all people who identify with similar people...
His uncle Dave also has a youtube channel, he doesn't post much but he is also a great presenter. At this point I'm pretty sure it just runs in the family.
I'm split on most aspects of this story, but I _extremely_ disagree with the notion that they had already been punished. Just because a decision was hard does not mean that you have been punished by making that decision. Plenty of murderers have a guilty conscience after the crime, sometimes during, and we don't let them walk free. Feeling bad about a crime does not absolve you of that crime. The Chilean government's response is frankly ludicrous.
I've been through a natural disaster. I've had people I love die as a result of them... never once thought of chopping a kid up to save my own ass.
Yeah, it was... because they chopped up a living child.
I agree with you. Feeling ashamed isn't punishment for murder, execution (or, at the very least, life imprisonment) is.
I agree completely that a guilty conscience does not absolve anyone of the social consequences of a crime. But I don't think this video was trying to claim that the actions might be understood because the culprits felt bad. The Valdivians' sacrifice is understandable only because they believed that they were saving their entire world by their actions. I think today, if a person were to sacrifice his own family to save the world, he would be praised. These people were obviously _incorrect,_ but they were perhaps not culpably wrong in the way a person in modern society would be for holding such a dangerously foolish belief.
Even then, I'm not completely comfortable with this view. I think a society in which infanticide is seen as a source of protective magic is in that way detestable itself. But most primitive societies are detestable in some way, and it seems inconsistent to judge a particular society in a way that every primitive human society throughout history would have certainly failed.
Your values are different. I hate to break it to you, but morality is relative. You're upset that cultures you aren't a part of acted within their own cultural views and not your own. I think that's infinitely more ludicrous, if not outright hubris.
If you were in that culture, you would have done the same thing. This outrage you feel towards them violating your sense of justice would instead be directed towards sacrificing the orphan to save your community, because that was justice to them. You hold your subjective values as deeply as they did. You aren't any better than them.
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I'm still not okay with they people going unpunished in this story. The mother of this child living in santiago had to lose her child for the beliefs of her home village? If she lived through the earthquake, I doubt she ever forgave any of them. Immagive going back and learning that your child was sacrificed for no reason... I hope everyone involved in that story has had to live and suffer with the memory of that deplorable act. Cultural sensitivity will not give this child his life back.
What do You talking about? It was an earthquake and people secrificed a child. We have a oil shortage and we pick random area on the earth and we kill 1 million people. Who need to be punished for what?
Dude these are so well done. Very very good
This story didn't feel like it lasted 8 minutes long. You were so enthralling, the story so vivid, it felt like it was all too short and a lot more had to be said, but were left unsaid for us to figure out.
Good job.
I'm in love with this series from the start and this is one of your best ones yet. Very, very good! I truely hope that Francesco and you never get tired of what you're doing.
I find great value in understanding why people do the things that they do but you have to remember that everyone has a reason for what they do -even 'evil' acts make sense from the perpetrators perspective/paradigm.
These vids (including this one) are very enjoyable and informative but I feel a slight Mapuche biased tone or perhaps an apologetic(s) one.
Hitler and his Nazis genuinely believed that he had to save his people and world from Jews yet we imprisoned and executed a number of them, many serial killers also have 'noble' intentions yet have met with the same fate.
TBH I suspect that not treating those men as the murders that they are; had more to do with not jeopardizing Chile-Mapuche relations (politics) and (perhaps to a lesser degree) that they would have been indoctrinated into that belief system as children which when combined with the extreme situation resulted in them having 'compromised faculties'.
KR P these things are all excuses to justify the horrible things that we as humans do for "the greater good" and that's all they are excuses.
Ignorance can lead to such cruel things.
I would call that ignorant of the value of human life.
And you're ignorant about the value of human experimentation.
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Don't equivocate the two. Science is objectively better than mysticism.
I wouldn’t say objectively. From a purely philosophical perspective, nothing is objectively better than something else. Although obviously science is better from the perspectives of most of mankind.
Bob Bobby
Don't get all postmodernist on me.
the episode should be re titled to "The last lamb of god"
Good work evan and team, this one drew some tears
Thank you for renaming the episode, I appreciate it.
United States Citizenship and Immigration Services Nice note. I changed it for you. :)
Rare Earth Nice one!
What was it called before?
The Last Human Sacrifice in the Americas or something like that.
"The Last Indigenous Human Sacrifice of the Americas" was the original title
All the terrible things we do to those who cant protest thinking it will bring us all prosperity .
This is so well done, absolutly amazing, I was drawn in the whole time, so concetrating on this well told story, ney piece of history and culture, that I actually forgot to continue eating (sitting at the dinnertable right now) Thanks for the amazing content :)
Look, I don't want to be 'that guy', but I think we should be really careful with the degree to which we're willing to entertain cultural relativism... In perhaps an innocent pursuit of dispassionate understanding, I think we will accidentally condone in the eyes of many onlookers.
I am relaying the reason why the Chilean government took the stance they did. It isn't cultural relativism. It is history.
I understand, that's where my final sentence comes in.
I would say that your tone throughout the video comes across as one of justification -- or at least extreme empathy for the crowd that murdered that child on the grounds of fear & culture.
As I've never murdered a child, it isn't empathy. But I definitely sympathize, and as the moral judges of the nation deemed them sufficiently punished, I would also say that in telling the story as it happened, it will likely come across as justified to present it without calling their decision 'wrong'. Since I wasn't there, didn't have the on the ground facts they did, and never experienced the earthquake, I'm willing to take their position and work with it.
@@RareEarthSeries It's not really about punishment when you condone an act, the act is bound to repeat itself. I think we can all agree that under the pretenses of preventing the suffering caused by natural disasters, the act of child sacrifice is perhaps more understandable but the pretense itself is false; the truth is the child endured all that suffering for absolutely nothing. We know that child sacrifice does nothing in preventing natural disasters because there is no evidence for it and we know what actually causes natural disasters. This documentary really convinced me that we need to spread objective reason across the world through any means to prevent unnecessary suffering for, as you pointed out, ignorance is not a choice but a tragic deficiency.
The only reason this story should ever be told MUST be so that it should NEVER. HAPPEN. AGAIN.
If the “gods” tell you to do something you know to be immoral, you must tell them NO, whatever the cost.
I think that is a big difference between now and then. We don't have to watch the screaming child.
andrineslife was that meant to be deep? Because if so you failed pretty badly
Just an attempt at saying that it is easier to ignore our sacrifices when the crying children are in a shelter in Texas or in a camp in Jordan, than when they are the grandchildren of our friends?
Think about all the children in third world countries exploited to give you the clothes you wear and the smart phone in your pocket. We don't see that suffering, but it's still there. Zero equivalence? No. As
andrineslife
said, the only difference is we don't have to watch it happen to have our comfortable life.
asdg199: Really? Does CNN broadcast daily about the fact our day-to-day comforts are built on the suffering of people in other countries? This isn't even about war. Just economy is enough.
I mean, I see what you're trying to get at but that's a pretty big stretch to compare the two… Not because the children you mentioned aren't suffering of course, but it's a difference in the nature of the crime committed. But to compare "now and then" the truth is that there are children that even today are sacrificed in a very similar fashion. Try albino children in certain areas of Africa. Sacrificed on the altar of superstition.
I wonder how people 500 years in the future will view some countries' refusal to give universal healthcare or education, access to internet and other basic necessities like water, food, minimum wage or security, Already some people from countries that have these basic human services view countries that refuse, despite having the resources, as cruel savages. I think in time we will have the perspective to universally agree that murdering a child and denying a child are both bad.
My thoughts exactly. Where I live (the American Midwest) I see people with facial tumors riding the bus. Too poor to get medical treatment, and too badly disfigured to get work. They're treated with contempt by American culture. In other countries with proper medical systems, they would be helped. We need to stop holding ourselves up as examples of the enlightened ones.
Sure i wish one day society would have enough compassion to help those who need it , but taking money at gun point to help someone they have never met is not going to help anything. Sure a few people would have a better time , but to oppress everyone else is the wrong answer. This is why the fix should be cultural either through stronger familial ties or religion these people deserve help. handing me a bill and taking my hard earned money for someone who didn't earn it is tyranny. My Father grew up in a ghetto and had to fight to survive you know what saying he grew up on? , "life doesn't owe you a living" you have to punch scratch and kick to get by and those who don't well better believe in an after life because it's no ones job to take care of them.
So you're trying to cast yourself as compassionate while spouting a thinly disguised screw them got mine line.
Taxes aren't oppression, they're the price you pay for living in a particular society. It's a society's job to take care of its citizens. So yes if you want to keep being part of your society it is, in part, your job to take care of them.
Or 500 years in the future how historians might see use of landmines. A lot of children have died so americans can feel safe from the abstract existential threat of communism.
neeneko abstract fear of communism? You do realize that socialism is one of the most popular forms of government right now. Communists did exactly what they wanted to
Such a vibrant culture! I'm sure there's a lot we can learn from child sacrifice.
2:51 that is a 100 million dollar view right there
Hey man, loved this video, watched it ages ago -- I just learned something interesting and relevant I wanted to share regarding an ongoing practice of human sacrifice.
Apparently in some parts of Africa there are these old beliefs about Albino people that are still held by some witch doctors to this day. The black market trade for albino body parts from murdered or mutilated people is a huge problem.
The article below tells the story of a man with Albinism who fled Cameroon in 2007 when a volcano started rumbling and people started talking of sacrificing albinos to appease it, leading him to fear for his life. He would later return to found a library for children with albinism (the condition also degrades eyesight and in Cameroon it is hard to get the support they need)
Yep. The same is true of identical twins in many places.
@@RareEarthSeries I remember when I watched this video thinking it was one final echo of the past... crazy to realize that no, this is an ongoing problem in many places :(
Among my favorite channels on TH-cam. Keep doing what you're doing!
I said that once, I'll say that again: your videos are the best thing youtube ever hosted.
As a short google search would have told you, this was far from the last indigenous human sacrifice in the Americas. There are remote tribes in Brazil where sacrificing disabled, fatherless, or otherwise stigmatised children is still semi-routine (this is usually done by burying the child alive). Additionally, there are still religious practices which persist among 'mainstreamed' indigenous people which have led to the murder of children for body parts.
I always feel like Rare Earth puts a lot more effort into presentation than actually researching the facts being presented.
What happened to the mother? I can't imagine anything worse.
Really good episode today Evan I just have some questions for you. 1.What inspired you to go to Chile for this season? 2.what’s your favorite part about Chile? Just a little curious :)
Also, keep up the incredible work!
A few reasons, I guess. Nobody ever talks about Chile where I'm from, Rapa Nui is there (a place I've always been drawn to), a sabbatical in Vina del Mar/Valpo is where my wife and I planned out what Rare Earth might be (and where I hired Francesco), and it is a truly gorgeous country.
My favourite part? Hard to say. Probably visiting my friend in Santiago. My friends are scattered across the world, and with the amount of time I spend on this series unless I'm shooting in their hometown I rarely get a chance to spend time with my people.
Rare Earth thank you for sharing, that was really neat!
They CUT UP a child to pieces, while he was STILL ALIVE, and yet, you and some of the comments put the emphasis on the feelings of the villagers, the boy's grandfather and the warlock and not on the ONLY victim in the whole story, the boy who was butchered in a way so cruel that we lock up people who do it to animals.
There shouldn't be any understanding, the ignorance of the people is not an excuse or a reason to kill anyone, let alone a helpless child and in such a cruel way.
The grandfather and the warlock should have spent the rest of their days rotting in prison, or better yet, hanging from a noose, they still had a death penalty at that time. Not only as retribution, but also to show that populace, that you won't save your life by killing children, and to show that that part of their culture and heritage is unacceptable in the modern world. Fearful as you may be, you don't cut up a child while it lives, you don't kill or hurt people as a sacrifice.
Seeing you taking the side of the villagers and trying to justify what they did on the one hand, and trying to argue that they were already punished by witnessing the act makes me really doubt your moral judgment. The emphasis should be on how those people have lost their humanity during a hard time and have committed an unimaginable act. This should be an indictment of the whole community that took part in the act and a call for other people to not fall to barbarism when the times are tough, but to help each other and hold up one another, communities should exist to support and help its most vulnerable and weakest in times of need, not to cut them up to peaces (sadly in this case, literally).
I think the idea of this video is to try and explain a horrifying story from the perspectives of the people who were its villains, and most sympathetic comments reflect that. No-one's saying it's right to brutally murder a child, but understanding is very much necessary. You can't blame the mapuche for their ignorance, because they themselves had no choice in deciding the culture in which they were born, a culture where human sacrifice is deemed necessary to appease the earth in times of need. And yes, the people definitely need to be educated and taught that human sacrifice is not acceptable under any circumstances, but punishing them so brutally for reverting back to ancient traditions when everyone was literally about to die (in their minds; no one knew the waters would stop rising) seems, to me, a little harsh.
"You can't blame the mapuche for their ignorance, because they themselves had no choice in deciding the culture in which they were born, a culture where human sacrifice is deemed necessary to appease the earth in times of need"
Yes, but you can very well readily blame them for their ignorance on that matter. You can't choose the culture or society that you were raised in, but you can, as a rational thinking adult, decide what morals you want to live by. If none of those villagers decided to break the shackles of ignorance that tied them to some appalling ancient tradition, then they very well and should be blamed for that. This statement is basically giving justification to all horrible acts that have been committed throughout history, by all peoples of the world, simply because "it was the way they were brought up in". I don't think proper punishment as the law deems for murder is out of question here in this case. I am sure some progressive thinking people in that village knew literally torturing a child to death wouldn't produce any results, but what were they to do under the mob mentality that took hold "because of the culture". This mob mentality anywhere else would be labeled reprehensible, but here in this video, it seems people are defending it for no good reason.
From now on, my defence for everything is faith and superstition.
As Murr said, we expect from adult and moral humans to reject such acts and to rise above their religion and heritage. We expect them to act according to basic human decency and not take part in a ritual involving human sacrifice. They knew that it's wrong, it didn't happen 500 years ago, it was in the 60s, less than 60 years ago, that child should be alive today if not for the warlock. They have stopped with human sacrifices before the incident and they had a connection to the outside world through their own people going to (and probably back from) other parts of Chile.
When talking about slavery in the US, we don't excuse slave owners that it was part of their culture and upbringing (and it was), when Rare Earth did their video about Gitmo they didn't excuse the torture of prisoners of war with the fear and insecurity that Americans felt after 9/11. We don't excuse atrocities committed by the west, we shouldn't excuse atrocities that are commited by the native population of S. America.
DivideByZero
I am just confused by your comment, are you saying I would defend such actions by this organization? Yes it is true, there are people that would support them, however I think you no need to look farther than this video to see the same about these villagers as well. I would never count myself to support a group that involves such tactics. And people that do support these tactics I would refer them to my original statement here as well. However, I do think the situations are a bit different in this case. The wave of protests that have cropped up over the past few years have been due to a frustrated populace in my opinion. Granted, as I have said, I do not condone any actions that would lend themselves to mob rioting and destruction/ violence. In the case of the villagers, they were acting on the fact that their centuries old tradition had said this was the correct thing to do in accordance with some sort of divine intervention.
You guys should do some stuff back here in the US. I'd really love to see you guys do a video on The National Memorial for Peace and Justice or the Trail of Tears. Things that people don't like to think about that really need more attention
New to the series, really enjoying the content. You guys provide an excellent contrast to most travel-related channels. I’d just like to point out that you might want to make some slight alterations to the logo. This may just be me but i’ve misread it as Rape Earth on multiple occasions now.
Keep up the good work!
I haven eagerly been waiting for the next upload!
This story sent shivers down my body. It amazes me the lengths that people will go to when compelled by their faith - sometimes positive but also sometimes gruesome like this.
Hey, I want you do know that I really think your channel is something unique. It's such a mix of storytelling, beautiful cinematography, and an odd sense of comfort, no matter how dark the story. Thank you for bringing us stories that no one else could, that no one else would even bother to find, let alone tell.
Thanks!
I'm binging your stuff right now and that hilarious line in the end credits really made my emotions do a flip-flop.
This is not rare earth - this is just incredible every single time!
Love the high drama in your voice!!! Your vids rock
Crikey, almost moved to tears here....good job Rare Earth :)
this was a compelling story and for the most part you just stood on a hill being filmed by a drone. Yet you made from this a very professional and engaging show! Well done.
you have a way of telling history that moves every fibre in my body. thank you!
Often at the end of your video after your conclusion and you say this is rare earth i would reply this is indeed rare earth
Thats some hardcore stuff you got there
i really like what you do here on youtube,
bringing us great content and telling important stories.
but i wouldn't mind something maybe a little more cheerful occasionally, just every once in a while...
... anyways great work, as always
greetings from germany
Yeah, you and me both. :)
Too bad the tsunami wasn't smaller or larger than it was. Had it been smaller they wouldn't have killed a child and if it had been larger they maybe would have realized that sacrifices like these have no bearing on the world around them.
The fact that the sacrifice coincides with the tsunami retreating is the worst possible outcome since it strengthens their religious view.
I was thinking the same thing I almost wish that it had totally wrecked them so they would realize they hacked apart a child for nothing
This video deserves way more attention. I still think about it sometimes.
if you get super famous remember me i'v been watching since the third episode.
I do belive i've found were you stood delivering these lines. (translation: I spent way too long on google maps and wikipedia.)
Congrats on hitting half a million subs man :D
Your stories are great. Thanks from Orlando
Wow, that was some heavy listening. I'm just speechless. I'm gonna be thinking about this one for a while
Thank you for this incredibly touching but enlightening story.
An excellent and moving video. Well done.
Does anyone know the name of that song by Kevin Macloed in the video ?
I know you were probably trying to tell the story from their perspective, but it seemed apologetic. It makes me uncomfortable, that you didn't point out the perspective of the child. What more, you were trying to make us feel sorry for them, the murderers. It feels just like trying to justify stoning or something as a part of culture so it's okay. And that definitely isn't. This kind of ignorance mysticism etc that hurts ppl makes me so angry. Fuck those ppl. They should have been sent to jail. Traditions and culture or whatever aren't an excuse for breaking the law or even hurting someone
Now, I'm not saying I agree with what the Mapuche (sp?) did, but you have to realize that it was their culture. It's easy for us to say they were wrong because, in our (read: European-based) society, human sacrifice is seen as morally wrong. However, to an indigenous American, it was a relatively normal thing. And even our culture isn't perfect; none are. Telling those villagers that they were wrong would be, in effect, saying that you can't follow your ancient customs anymore. Again, I wouldn't be willing or able to kill someone else, especially a young child, in the manner that they did. But I can, in a way, understand why they did it.
gamenern I realize that it's a part of their culture, but as I said that's not a valid reason to do this. I know they genuinely thought it would save them. But that's still no excuse. You can't argue the law by saying that you genuinely believed you were doing good when in reality you hurt someone. They OBJECTIVELY killed the boy. And that's what's important.
I don't think you understand. It's not just a 'custom' or 'tradition'. They didn't sacrifice him because "that's how we've always done it." This wasn't them saying that their traditions are more important than the boy's life. This isn't like a religious person that kills gays because they think they're evil.
They were terrified by something unprecedented. They were watching in mortal terror as the earth shook and the ocean rose up to drown them. They had no scientific understanding of tsunamis and so they anthropomorphized them. They attributed the event to an angry god that needed to be appeased. Was it rational? No, but they didn't know how to think about natural disasters from a rational perspective. They couldn't have. As in, the conclusion that the event would end on its own and was entirely natural and mindless wasn't a possible thought for them to have. They took the only explanation available to them and did what they could to save the most number of people (as predicted by their understanding of the tsunami).
We don't hold pre-germ theory civilisations morally accountable for hygienic practices that caused the various great plagues. The concept of invisible contaminants didn't exist. *Ignorance isn't a valid excuse when the possibility of non-ignorance exists, sure. But when it's not possible for an individual to know something, ignorance is a perfectly valid excuse.*
Now, what you can do is judge the culture. As in, you can state that societies are objectively better when they are less ignorant. And any attempt to keep them ignorant (out of some anti-colonial rhetoric) is objectively wrong. Knowledge is a toolbox. Without the correct tools, you can only do certain things. But you can't judge an individual for literally not being able to access a tool.
And, no, "They OBJECTIVELY killed the boy. And that's what's important" is not how the law works. Motive is a huge factor in any modern legal system. It's what change murder to manslaughter or less. For example, if someone takes you and a bunch of people hostage and tells you to kill one of the hostages or they will kill all the hostages, you will not be found guilty of murder for obeying (probably, it's a bit context dependant).
slicedtoad I like your point about not being able to access the tool. Okay if you put it that way they might not be need to punish them by jail time or something. But someone should have explained to them these kinds of so they wouldn't do it ever again and maybe they might even regret their actions later which would serve as a punishment. But on the other hand if someone is mentally ill and kills someone he won't go to jail but he will go to some psychiatric hospital because they're dangerous to public/themselves etc. I know this is a bit different. All I'm saying we don't just do nothing even when the person clearly isn't capable of thinking about his actions as being bad. And my main point in the original comment was supposed to be mainly about the apologetic view of the situation and not providing the boys or the general public's view. I like your argument tho
Thank you Antonia Stevens.
Its not like a grown man said "I will sacrifice myself" or something like this. Its for a good reason they use(d) children... orphans too. Someone who cant defend himself and the last one anyone else would fight for.
And on top of that they knew he was NOT a orphan and still did this. So even if they really believe in "sacrificing a orphan helps"... thats not what they did.
The most fascinating part of this video are the people in the comments who can't separate sympathy from agreement
Well done, guys. Took me down to my core, this one.
Beyond my scope of understanding despite the historical lineage of the region and its people. His death changed absolutely nothing but to those who partook and those who witnessed this heinous act of butchery and mysticism. It's long done yet I hope they've since come to a more informed understanding of power of nature and any preventative measures that can be taken to limit or negate any unnecessary loss of life.
Heart wrenching Rare Earth
Suddenly reminded of what Geralt says in the Witcher books(?), 'If that's what it takes to save the world, it's not worth saving'
Whelp... that might not have been the best choice for a video to accompany my lunch break... But, amazing work as always..
You guys should make a movie or write a book as well. Fantastic story telling defo would be a hit.
People of Sierra La Messa: *Do something!!*
Alex Jones: *D E S T R O Y T H E C H I L D!*
The warlock: Ahhh shit, here we go again...
Masterfully done, as usual.
There was one person that forgot that day. the CHILD that was MURDED. That child was stripped of what I feel is the greatest gift of all. Being alive. A child that was not given the chance to have either a good day in life or a horrible one. This was presented like it was "OK" that this happened. The people on the hill were not punished. They were not given a Death Sentence. One child was.
God this one was hard to watch
No they where not punished. Telling a group of people that just slowly tortured a poor defenseless child to death to think about their actions isn’t even close. If nothing else the Grandfather and “Warlock” (psychopath) should have been tried .
I had never heard of this and it sounds like it's a far better example of a truely extreme situation than say R. v Dudley and Stephens. Goes to show how anglo-centric my education has been. Thanks for sharing this, nice work!!
Note on terminology: "warlock" is a pejorative that comes from the British Isles. It means "oath breaker." The correct term is "wizard" which means "wise man," just as "witch" means "wise woman." In essence these people are the shaman of their respective people. In the particular cultural context a broader term of "shaman" would have been more appropriate. I know that "shaman" is an Asian term, but it has come a be used in a more global context. I do enjoy the Rare Earth videos (or I wouldn't bother with them) and the messages are interesting, but having grown up with the influence of witchcraft, there are some things that I can't ignore.
As we are speaking commonly, and not using in-group specific etymology, the word Brujo is best translated to the generic term 'Warlock' (meaning male witch). While in middle English/German a thousand years ago it may have meant betrayer/oath breaker, a tiny percentage of my viewers would see it that way today.
As well, given the nuance of the translation, 'wizard' would definitely not apply here. The connotations are all wrong. Warlock is the best, and most commonly accepted, English translation.
What was the southernmost point that you went here in Chile? Did you visit Chiloe?
Disgusting. There is no explaining away such a thing. Sorry, but no. No no no. What if it had been rape and torture? To what degree does it have to go before we say: "Hey, ya, no, that's clearly messed up"? Does chopping up a child to death and maximizing his suffering in the process not clearly meet that mark? If not, I think that says a lot about yourself more than it speaks to anything else.
There are no stupid questions. Only stupid answers.
DivideByZero not sure if he wanted to say that
so y'all gonna ignore the fact that the most well known myth of the mapuche culture is how a "sea snake spirit deity" almost drowned humanity, which was saved by a "earth snake pirit deity" which elevated mountains so the people and animals would not drown?
What I'm trying to say is that if I believed that an ancient spirit deity was about to kill my village and everything around it I would be scared shitless as well
desperation can make people do horrible things if they think it is necesary.
*they didn't think they were doing good, they though that commiting taboo was a necesary meassure to prevent a literal god from killing them all*
that's how they viewed it
because may I remind you
that earthquake was a *fucking nightmare* for most people in chile and its repercussions were felt as far as some island on the paciffic
thats all I have to say and have a nice day
Love this channel
Thank you to the entire Rare Earth team for doing such a great job in keeping history alive by telling the stories that few others are willing to.... I can just imagine how very difficult it must have been to decide how to tell the story.
One of those impossible moral dilemmas....
You've done a brave and fantastic job of putting this together... Keep up the
I too forgot what I was doing Spellbound only trying to imagine how those people felt just trying to imagine how they dealt with it in the aftermath thanks for such incredible stories
Wasn’t this vid titled something else yesterday. Something like “last human sacrifice in South America” or something?
Actually when you think about it, they brought themselves a tiny bit closer to drowning by displacing an orphans worth of water.
Wow, what a story, both ancient and contemporary. I, too, wonder after the grandfather - and the boy's mother.
If you come back to Canada you should do a video on the residential schools
Wow, this one swells with emotion towards the end. What a haunting story! You guys are full on master storytellers. Hollywood has nothing on you. Keep it up!
what did the mum say when she found out?
amazing. not that distant past we'd like to believe, people who were there are still alive to share this story and it's legacy
I wonder how the mom felt about her child being tortured. I hope she gave the Warnock some emotional hell. To me a true human sacrifice is someone who is willing and in a state of mind to give consent to being killed to save other people so I believe only a adult can do tat or someone in there late teens. Like 16 or hopefully older.Anyone younger then that is not in a state to give their permission.
This is just amazing.
In a way, this is the trolley problem. These people were faced (in their cultural understanding) with the decision of sacrificing one to save many or sacrificing many to save one.
What is that song ?
This comments section is horrifying.
He has the deliverance of a pastor its a very good skill to have
Amazing thanks
In the words of Steven Weinberg: "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
But what is evil?
@Joel Andersson Brutally killing a child to satiate your earthquake god is a good place to start looking. Religious people tend to bring this up to defend the bible's own immorality. By and large evil is just extreme immorality, where immorality tends to be something done to another against their will, usually in opposition to one's own sense of what they would wish for themselves. Usually this is simple to figure out, but sometimes it's complicated and takes reasoning and deliberation to discover. Religion though simplifies and undercuts this process, it allows one to ignore their own moral reasoning in deference to something they judge to be in accordance to god's wishes.
If a child is raped and killed, it might actually be good, it's part of gods plan, maybe she was going to do something terrible when she grows up? How can we know the mind of god? The struggle against the infidel has been used widely to justify acts of incredible evil against whoever a Muslim considers the infidel. The bible supports slavery and was used by supporters to justify it as gods design. "Saint" Mother Teresa believed the sick must suffer like Christ on the cross, and therefore her clinics lacked medical care. I'm cherry picking of course. The real evil? The core of all of this? Faith. Not using ones reasoning ability in deference to the moral standards of an ancient people will inevitably result in immoral and evil acts. There are those that are evil, and those that are good, but for good people to do evil things, that takes faith.
Well, you may percieve this as evil, They would probably refute that. They arent religious extremists - and besides, they'd abandonned the practice years earlier. However when confronted with a cataclysm so large they thought they had no choice - as they've lived with sacifice for thousands of years. It's a European dogma to not sacrifice live beeings - a dogma that thankfully I see as good.
However - to put this in a more relatable context:
Think the classical train morale problem:
You have a train rushing down the tracks with no hope stopping it, you stand by a switch that can shift the tracks. In one end is a serie of people, young and old, big and small, over 100 people. They will die if you do not revert the train so that the trains goes the other way. Unfortunately, if you do that, an young orphan will be killed, brutally and painful. What do you do?
Obviously the village decided to go with the latter - More lives saved are better than everyone dead. And besides, we might know that the water will recede, but to them, this was an angry Earth out for revenge - out to kill the world. The sacrifice was their last hope.
Yes, it was horrible, but what else should they've done? They didn't have education to know better...
@Joel Andersson You're right, it's entirely possible to be wrong about morality. It's for this exact reason that reason and evidence are needed in many cases to discover the right choice. This society didn't lack basic human values, they didn't want to hack their child to pieces, but they were scared and thought that their god demanded it. This is why faith is evil, and should not be considered a virtue.
On the train example, this is tossed around in various permutations as if it's some kind of deep question. It's really not. An individual may choose to sacrifice themselves to stop the train, but it would not be ethical to sacrifice the child without it's consent and understanding for any number of others on the track. There are some real world examples of this actually. Would using unwilling participants in medical trials be ethical? There are many examples where great progress could be made and many could benefit, but we don't because it violates our individual rights. Similarly, the question of the draft. Certainly many governments throughout history have forced unwilling participants to kill or be killed for their own government's preservation. It may or may not be necessary for the greater good in some cases, but cannot be considered ethical or "good" as an individual act.
Regardless, a reason based approach to determining right and wrong, will be vastly more likely to result in a more correct solution than faith and interpretation of ancient stories.
@ Joel Andersson "It's a European dogma to not sacrifice live beeings". Take two dogs that like each other and tie them up in plain sight of each other. Hack off each limb of one of the two, one by one. Do you suppose the other dog might be distressed? It's not dogma, morality is part of reality, and discoverable by those willing to think for themselves.
Why the change in video title??
anyone have an article on how the mother felt
Such a fascinating story. I could never say culture justifies a such as this, but still it's interesting to learn about.
When was this tsunami? I am frustratingly lacking a context for the presentation; when did the brutal sacrifice occur? Did his mother learn of her child's loss? So is this in living memory? Do you feel the ends justified the means? Did the indigenous folk? How many were trapped on that hill?
Lance Wedor The 1960 Valdivia earthquake was in 1960. Nobody knows what came of the mother, as far as I could find. If you can, I'd certainly like to see it. It has nagged me since finding out about this story. A few hundred were trapped on the hill, but none of them (obviously) had much interest in talking about it to us.
Rare Earth man - Thanks for your response! Perhaps my hearing did not catch the date; aging does that, I find. My apology. Should I locate further information, I will forward it to you.
The astonishing programs you present help me to learn about significant events from cultures which were not part of my World History classes. The stories are as powerful and important as any of the classic Western and Near Eastern myths and values. I remain agog. Thanks again.
So those walking shots where you're talking to camera, is that done with your drone (mavic right?) tracking you while you record audio separately?
Ricky Li No I use an Italian
Amazing...
I think what would’ve helped expand the viewpoints of this video was by interviewing the locals of the town on their opinions of the sacrifice.
Warlock translates from old English to "oath-breaker" or "deceiver". So what oath did they break and who are they deceiving?
This might be splitting hairs, but "Warlock" doesn't seem like the best choice of words.
I'm sorry, my comment did have the tone I was aiming for. Namely unnecessary but fun historical linguistic omphaloskepsis.
From a western perspective, what that man did certainly feels very much like the practices of a warlock, but through his cultural lens, what he did was very much within the cannon of belief and ritual.
The connotative distinctions between Wizard, Mage, Soothsayer, Warlock, Witch, Shaman, Enchantress, and Magician are all very interesting but ultimately meaningless.
Oh man. I guess I'm crying now, okay
2:55 Beautiful shot
An excellent fictional story of a modern day human sacrifice by a Native American is Soul Catcher by Frank Herbert. As is typical of all of his books, it is a deep and complex story.
It makes me very uncomfortable that how somehow your tone in the video excuses them simply because it was ingrained in their culture... I can't imagine a worse torture.. and since it did stop the flood and they were given no punishment if anything like that earthquake ever happens again more will die. Really in poor taste honestly. though I like your videos
To be clear, I'm not excusing them. I'm sympathizing with their position. I think what they did is monstrous, but I also want people to see their point of view. They won't do it again, history has shown that. The Mapuche were educated, and their culture moved on. This act was a final brutality that forced them to come face to face with their past, and in turn allowed them to move past it.
But don't mistake my emotional sympathy for their fear with excusing their actions. I don't excuse their actions.