Trying To Get The Best MPG Towing? I Learned This Technique That Will Get You 2-3 MPG Better!
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- On My last 1000 mile trip, I learned this technique that will land you better fuel economy! || Like || Subscribe || Share || #RAMHD #whowork
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Nice video. Being smooth with the throttle and brake is the best way to get good mileage for sure. Speed is also important. Once you get around 70 mph the gas mileage will drop.
The only issue I see with towing in an OD gear could build unnecessary heat in the transmission. That would be something to watch for.
Thanks bro, and maybe what I will do is do a follow up video on whether you should keep Tow/haul mode on or not 👍🏾👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork yeah that would be good to do. Probably for a diesel it won’t matter too much but a gas truck it will drastically change how they operate at speeds. My truck will definitely not go into 6th in tow/haul mode and a lot of times on curvy two lanes it won’t go to 5th.
@@JB_WhoWork I’d like to see that… I’ve got a 6.7L F-250 diesel (6spd but wish I’d waited for 10spd trans) but I honestly can’t tell any different with towing mode on or off!🤷🏻♂️
@@JB_WhoWork did you do the test ? i was wondering if i need to activate it on the highway. I got 11mpg on a 250miles trip with a 5k pound rv on my Ram v6 3.6 etorque with tow/haul mode activated last weekend.
I'll do 650 miles next weekend. I'll try removing the tow/haul mode to see if i get improvement!
I really dislike people that don’t set there Cruise. They are going fast then slow and I go to pass WITH MY CRUISE SET and I about get passed them then they take off again . It’s very frustrating.
Your videos are great because it’s all real world test/review. Love this type of content. Nice work.
Thanks bro!
Yes sir! Great tips. Keep the speed lower, stay out of the boost, no cruise control and use hills to your advantage. But you forgot the golden rule of MPG, never ever under any circumstances let the wife drive! She floors that ish all the time she’s drivin’😆
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😂😂😂 You’re gonna pay for that one! Thanks bro 🇺🇸💪🏾
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Excellent video! I’ve used this exact approach for many years and it works really well! I use my instant/average mpg gauge and make a game out of it to help pass the time while my bride is napping, or monkeying around with her phone……which is most of the time. 😂😂😂😂
Great video man!!!
Love the reviews my man!!! Keep charging forward!!!
Thanks bro 👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks JB, great video!
Thanks Michael 👍🏾👍🏾
Really enjoy your video’s. Lots to learn when it comes to RV’s Cheers Rob
Thanks for sharing Rob!
Thanks, JB. Saving fuel is saving money.
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Good review and very informative 👍 🤙
As a truck driver, I can confirm this, works with big trucks as well, I own my own truck and trailer, and with this high cost fuel we got now, every little bit help!
You're right by me in Mount Airy !! Same stretches I tow on. Totally agree on the cruise when towing. I still use it on the long flats, but bring it up a few miles before hitting the start of the climb. Then let it drop same as you on the way up. Never paid that close attention to mileage when doing it before. Will now. Thanks !
Small world, we are traveling right now but hopefully we will be back in MD later this year, thanks 👍🏾
Between the Georgia and Florida line heading south on I-95. I passed the same car 17 times. I was on cruise control.
I enjoyed the Video!
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Great example of the difference in milage between constant speed VS constant throttle position.
Sweet!
Great video, never thought of taking Tow mode off on a decent cruise. Yet I knew how to work with the hills. And cruise is not your friend in the hills. I was avg 11.8 MPG's at 64 mph in Tennessee & NW Georgia. But here in South Florida no advantage and at 62 mph i'm only avg 10.1 mpg's Towing with GMC Elevation 2.7L T. Bottom-Line i got better MPG's in the hills then I do here in Flat Land South Florida. But perhaps taking it out of Tow Mode here in Flat Land just maybe i could boost the mpg's???
good content, some people just have no patience at all. I have seen a bunch of people drive super fast on road trip but they don't realize they need to refuel frequently which slows them down quite a lot.
Great point, I was that guy lol! What messed me up was when I had to stop at 180 miles 💀
Loved the content, very well explained. I must admit though I'm in the "no cruise control" camp as well. "WE" as humans have the information you've provided here, but most of us don't know it. Perhaps someday most people will, with your help of course get a better understanding of reality.
I mean, in my opinion those cruise controls are programmed to waist fuel, sure they're lovely, convenient, but are they really looking out for our best interests?
Hope to meet up someday camping, and hook a "CHAIN" to that Dodge!
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Just bought a 26 ft travel trailer (5176 lbs empty). Used cruise control at first, but my Tahoe going up a hill would downshift when I was already halfway up the hill… sometimes it would downshift twice and in one instance had the RPM’s up to 5500. I realized then that cruise control was no advantage, so I shut it off. The hills of Tennessee are brutal on MPG as opposed to the flatlands of Illinois.
The cruise control doesn’t know it’s approaching a hill so it can only react once on a hill, so now as I approach a hill (without cruise ctrl) I accelerate slightly before I am actually on the hill and that limits the transmission downshifting and improves MPG. I also found 60 mph be an optimal speed.
Great video as it confirms that cruise ctrl, specially when the road is cluttered with hills, renders poor MPG.
This reminds me of calculating for best cruise speed flying aircraft. When flying, pilots look at manifold pressure to see how much work the engine making for a desired result. There is a point where induce drag has gotten to a point where more fuel is required to hold a higher speed. Aerodynamics makes a huge impact on fuel economy.
I'm saving this video because I'm going to have to stretch my dollar and it sounds like the best way to do that will be to slow my rig down.
Yes sir, allow for 5 mph over so you can use that speed going up grades 👍🏾👍🏾
I have driven that stretch of road your on several times. The hills are not very steep for the most part but gradual acceleration is your friend when on a flat. Headed south after you go through Fredrick on 15 / 270 there is a bear of a hill that will test your patience lol.
Yea that’s 5% grade for about 2-3 miles and doing what I showed in this video will help offset that decrease in fuel mileage 👍🏾
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Good video good information. Now come out west with 6 to 9 percent grades. I still get 12 pulling my 35 ft toyhauler - 2014 Ram 6.7 I do about the same as well as keep track of turbo temp.
Thanks Doug, are you deleted?
No, don't want to afford the ticket if I get inspected. I mostly run in the Black Hills of South Dakota. If I take it across Wyoming or Nebraska I do much better, Utah the mph will drop some - especially leaving going up Parleys Canyon - 9 miles of 6 to 7%
That is similar to how I drive on ice. Little extra speed downhill. and light on the pedal uphill so it reduces chance of a slide.
I hate driving when it snows, Ice I’m out ✌🏾
I love your conversation, I’m always watching the mileage. I have an older 1 ton, but I’m getting 25 mpg without the trailer. I’ve noticed a difference since I got the triple disk torque converter. I don’t have the DEF so my fuel is a little cheaper per gallon. I’ve also tried a few tricks. One time I added 2 stroke oil to the fuel and picked up some mileage, about 2 to 3 mpg, I’ve also tried fbomb. That worked well but I’m not sure if it payed for itself. I also have an airdog filter/lift pump installed. It gets me better fuel mileage till I get under a 1/2 a tank of fuel. My not pulling a trailer mileage is 25 mpg. I haven’t pulled the 5th wheel since the upgrades , but I was getting 13 pulling a big horn 38’. I’ve got a turbo system with the exhaust brake for towing, which will also give me more boost, but it’s not installed yet. Have you tested your mileage by RPMs?
I like to use the cruise control myself but drivers on cellphones mess with consistency. Which can mess with fuel mileage sometimes.
Keep up the great work!!
Great post! I wish diesel trucks would lose the DEF/DPF/SCR… I would just take EGR if possible because these components use more fuel just to burn clean which seems silly and counterproductive 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork exactly, how is burning more fuel helping me.
Best way to save fuel is by slowing down!!!
It’s called Hypermiling. When Prius first came out I learned about it.
True!
I always remember this as trying to maintain constant throttle amount instead of maintaining constant speed.
That’s a great way to put it!
On our last 4k mile trip I did half the trip using cruise control & tow haul mode on the 'flats' and kick it out as I hit hills up or down. I drove large semi's in my young years for a few years; and thought why not the same style with this rig? Worth a try. The trip back I used "M" mode and used the transmission. Keeping my RPM's about as constant as i could shifting up & down. On the long or steep hills I kept it in the torque range of about 3k -3.5k RPM's using the gears. On long flat stretches I would test the cruise but would pop it in "M" and drop a gear to see if the cruise was using more gas to keep it in the higher gear watching my RPM's all the time. The highest gear isn't necessarily the best. It's a combination of throttle pressure, RPM's and speed. I was actually better off in 9 most of the time than 10 while towing. Cruise control would let me lose too many RPM's and then floor it to gain it back after dropping 2 gears. Especially going up a long hill. I also limit my speed to 60-62 mph. big difference than 67-70 mph. I did the same theory as you did by speeding up ~5+mph down hill and lower up hill as well.
True, but for Hwy driving above 65 MPH is always going to be better than lower gears when you take in revolutions per minute. Thanks for sharing
@@JB_WhoWork Not necessarily true. On my Ford 10 spd for example the top 3 gears are overdrive. 7th is one to one. Depending on your load and terrain you may have to apply more throttle in 10th to maintain 70 than you would in 9th. You may be turning less RPM's in 10th but it may require a heavier foot on the pedal to do so, therefor burning more fuel.
Thanks for the explanation!
End of the day, just know the torque curve on your vehicle & really that's about it
The turbo will tell you a lot about your MPG was well 👀
This is all pretty basic stuff, but I'm sure there are some who learned from it. The only thing I would add is, using your brakes it like scraping uneaten food into the trash. You paid money to get your truck moving; using your brakes is wasting the energy you paid for. Accelerating to the next red light is a waste, just like accelerating down a winding grade. Obviously, we must use our brakes often, when driving, but the less we do, the more we get what we paid for. I enjoy your content. Thank you.
Of course
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I recommend you going about 80 miles per gallon
Good shit bro, but what if on my trip I have to take my dad to school and it’s uphill both ways, what do I do then? 😂
You say goodbye to these 💸💸💸
@@JB_WhoWork you ain’t lying 😂😂😂
Let’s get about 20% in PG
Semis go slower uphill because they're heavy.. they go faster downhill for the same reason. Also most of them are governed. So they have a maximum speed, but they're able to go over that downhill
Maintain rpm up hill and speed down hill for best mpg.
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Let’s go on a 10% grade
They are drafting to get better fuel mileage. They are using the vacuum created by the truck ahead
Maybe using the "AVG" mpg is not the way to show what works for better MPG?....
Taking of tow haul throws your truck into overdrive and locks up torque converter. I have been told you will tear up your transmission and overdrive gear. That is why tow haul keeps you out of overdrive. Be careful not to tear up the transmission to save a couple of bucks on fuel.
You make a great point which is why I don’t accelerate hard anymore in 5th/6th gear when not using tow/haul. To your point, the computer identifies load through tow/haul and locks out the weaker 6th gear but as I’m climbing grades, I’m maintaining lower RPMs to lessen abuse to the weaker 5th/6th. I could be wrong but only way to find out is to tear down trans and I’m definitely not doing that 😅
So in Colorado we have lots of speeds in the 75mph- go you just keep at the 65 no matter what or do you do close to posted speeds? I don’t tow anything heavy but have a 2500 ram so still hard to not go fast!
I probably run about 73-75 MPH or follow big rigs so I don’t have to pass often 👍🏾
I do 55-60 but also have a manual so no downshifting. Get great mpg
That’s the best way to go 🔥
@@JB_WhoWork yeah man.. wpukd love a new truck like you got but that def and lower mpg right now is killer
I have been kicking around deleting it but not gonna keep it long enough to enjoy it… wish I would have done it day 1
@@JB_WhoWork what are ypu thinking next?
If RAM redesigns i will definitely upgrade but would like a couple of options for my channel 👍🏾
You hit all the notes JB. That's everything I do. My wife is always playing shotgun driver - "do you have the cruise set??", then I have to educate - again.
But you have way better experience with economy with that RAM against my F350. I'm also pulling average of 14k lbs. Overall I'm getting 9-10 at best, traveling mostly on relatively flat grade highway. In the mountains, forget about it. I get killed going up regardless the tricks. Generally horrible economy with my F350 no matter what I do.
😂😂 yea my wife probably thinks I’m crazy! Thanks for sharing bro 👍🏾
Twill, what model year 350? DRW or SRW? Diesel?
@@displacedtexan mine is 2018 SRW F350 PS
Let’s make this engine really hot
I drive a 2.7 ecoboost with 3.73. Ratio and 10spd, pulling 21’ TT; not a diesel…I make a game of it as well to get best fuel economy. I agree with the cruise control but not necessarily with the gear selection. With my turbo gasser I keep dropping gears until the fuel economy gets worse and then go back one. An example: pushing a head wind in 7th (1:1) and got much better economy in 6th which is about 3200RPM (peak rear wheel torque btw). So my point is, and maybe not with a diesel, lower rpm in my experience is usually not the answer. The engine is working too hard in those OD gears and I’m pretty sure the same fire a diesel. Also, I always downshift before the hill to get the rpm up, transmission is too “dumb or slow” to downshift. Just my two cents.
Great explanation Chris 👍🏾
Big rigs lose speed up hills because they are too heavy and can't maintain speed. On flip side, all that weight pushes the truck down hill and guys use this because many trucks have a speed limiter. They are not doing it for fuel savings. Only real savings is better driving practices and shifting techniques for rigs.
Agreed. I don’t think lugging the engine going uphill is very beneficial. Slowing to 50 mph on some highways can also be very dangerous even in the right hand lane. Lastly, I wouldn’t trust what the “lie-o-meter” is putting out. JB should have filled up, annotated the mileage, filled up at his destination, and did the math that way. I’ve actually found that keeping my 6th gear locked out and hauling most of my long trips in fifth gear gets better mileage.
I’ve driven more miles backwards than you’ve driven forward…. And I’ve never touched the brake pedal once. - Super Outlaw Trucker
This isn't super relevant but I always assumed everyone just knows this. Seems really simple but I get telling me how bad their gas mileage is and then they'll say I only went 60 the whole trip. They know because they set cruise. I try to explain but they just can't understand. One thing relevant to your video is, yes semi do this to a point but a lot are literally going as fast as they can up the even small hills. Your truck has as much tq and hp as some of those big trucks so imagine another 60k worth of weight. Some obviously have double the tq you have but you'd be surprised how under powered some of those trucks are
15% rpms
Yeah it’s called a delete for better mpg
Let’s gain 80 miles to pick up the RPM
I don't mean this to sound like I'm bashing anyone. But I've been a truck driver for almost 39 years. The trucks aren't backing off the throttle going up hill weight is causing them to slow down. Low rpm while climbing a Hill causes high boost pressure and high e g t. Not good for engine. Better to have a little more rpm and a lot less boost. I do use my cruise when towing my fifth wheel. But automatics wait to long to down shift. I paddle shift to be in the right gear when I start climbing. I realize your fiber is 4000 pounds heavier than mine but as a former diesel pickup owner that switched back to gas. Your economy numbers don't add for me. Just got back from vacation in the smokies. My calculated milage not the dash of the truck. We're 8.8 to 9.14.
Let’s get 4 rpm
You are leaving out the wind. Between 70mph and 50 mph you can cut fuel cost by 23 percent.
You have a big load behind you. You really should go about 75 miles an hour.
I've always been told to stay out of 6th gear when working that heavy. Unless the tranny's have been upgraded recently it will burn it up (68rfe that is)
My RAM has the Aisin
I agree with Jeff, in the sense that the computer in tow mode is trying to keep you in the power/torque band. Its never good on an engine to bog it down at the lowest rpms its a game of give and take, save a few bucks on fuel, or blow head gaskets or break a connecting rod costing thousands in repairs… staying out of cruise I completely agree with a human can see and anticipate adding a bit of throttle to climb hills knowing you’ll drop a little speed. Downshifting is your friend going downgrade and try to stay off the brakes let the engine help slow it.
TRANNIES, not tranny's. WOW, did you even graduate high school?
I speed up before a hill
Keep your speed at least 7 above posted so you don’t have to
my 2cents? ...maximizing MPG with GAS or with Diesel are two different things!! In a gas motor (generally speaking) the lower RPM per MPH the better because the the stochiometric ratio of gas demands the same amount of fuel to air... Diesel is different. Diesel burns at a MUCH wider stochiometric ratio than gas. So lower RPM with a diesel is meaningless if you are in the throttle harder. Its much harder to figure out where the Diesel injectors are flowing less diesel than if it were a gas engine. A higher RPM with diesel using less throttle might be better than a lower RPM and higher throttle position.... as well as better EGT control
Nah. The “cars ahead of you” going slower are probably slowing because of the yo-yo’s who don’t use their cruise control. I’d be surprised if your long term average went up enough to matter. All y ou accomplish by turning of your cruise is to become another yo-yo. 1995 E150 w/5.8 351 Windsor. 15.5 MPG@70. The tractor trailers you’re slowing down behind are probably just not paying attention.
Im a long haul truck driver and average 700 to 750 miles a day. When you drive as much as i do, you will really start to see how dangerous it is when you have people driving with there cell phones in their hands and sometimes it hits home and I wonder if I’m going to die on a highway away from my family.
I like your channel bro but if your going to make a living off of TH-cam please find a way to make your driving videos with hands free devices.
Couldn't agree more. I'm also a professional driver, and am tired of seeing so many accidents, and super close calls, because people can't put their phones down.
Pretty much every single state has laws against hand held cell phone use laws
On the other hand, there have been countless times I have followed a semi that is all over the road, and when I pass, he is fiddling with his cell phone.
I was thinking the exact same thing. In California at least truck drivers are the absolute worst with cell phones. Ive had to break and swerve almost every trip from a truck drifting into my lane only to see the driver on his phone e. So much so I’ve often thought about having my passenger take a pic of the trailer and the idiot driver playing on his cell phone and sending it to his company.
@@gregoryalvarado9471 you should report him. I can't stick up for every steering wheel in a semi. The true professionals dont use their phones while driving. Only the weaker minded people will let the temptation win over everyone's safety.
you are kidding, right. truckers are the WORST, most unsafe drivers. Most of you speed, and you tailgate to pressure cars to get out of YOUR way and i've seen semis go from one lane to another because the moron driver is on his cell. SPARE ME ALREADY, JOSHY
Aerodynamics are a big deal. Pulling our EMPTY 7x16 cargo trailer the fuel economy drops to half the non towing fuel economy. At 50mph, our Cummins will get 30+ mpg.
Speed limit or not. Driving above 65mpg will not yield acceptable mpg. Bought R-95 fuel for $6.96gal yesterday. Cost $102 for half a tank. The fuel price is higher in many other parts of California.
When I drove OTR in the 48 and Canada. The joke was, seniors towing trailers or in motor homes. Had a national speed limit of 45mph.
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5.5 mpg??? I think it's time to park that thing and just live in it wherever it's parked. I have been shopping for a Ram Cummins, but maybe I'll just keep my old 93 GMC 3500 SRW with the manual 5-speed transmission that gets 18 miles per gallon empty and 12 mpg pulling the RV and runs just fine on free veggie oil!!! I am beginning to think a Ram Cummins would be a serious downgrade.
I’m getting more than that!
You are absolutely WRONG about cruise control, as an OTR truck driver I’ve tried it both ways in different trucks over the years, with very few exceptions, cruise control will absolutely get better mpg over a 600-700 mile day
Excellent video! I’ve used this exact approach for many years and it works really well! I use my instant/average mpg gauge and make a game out of it to help pass the time while my bride is napping, or monkeying around with her phone……which is most of the time. 😂😂😂😂
Lol,thanks Scott 👍🏾