@@Wildcat12 23 percent wr is insane thou. he said he had 13% wr until recently which is 2 wins and 15 losses. that's a losers queue teammate if I've ever seen one. you have to not be playing to win or just terrible for that many games.. 1 win 5 losses ok maybe you're unlucky. 2 and 15 is not unlucky.
@@qsanchez95 But think of it from the other person's perspective. "Oh, I got a 13% winrate because I've been playing bad for a while now." What do you do from that point on? You need to keep playing if you want to get a win at all, in order to balance out a winrate, but if everyone around you keeps dodging games because you're the bad player, you never get the chance. Like, just because you reach a 13% winrate doesn't mean other average players should dictate that you don't get to play ever again
''This is where real LP is made; winning a game that you were losing'' This is so true, because not only do you gain LP (+20), you also prevent losing LP (-20), meaning you effectively gain double LP whenever you turn a losing game around
Idk about that one. In terms of the actual climb its only +20. Its not over till the fat lady sings as they say. If you turn a losing game into a winning game its the same as winning a game. If you lose a winning game its the same as losing a losing game. Does not matter what happens in the middle its the end result that matters. Just maximising lp per hour or win rate and your on the way up and thats the only thing that matters. Just don't crash out and int to force a losing game.
@ I dont know what your point is? How is it changing from WLWW to WLLW? Because you changed a losing game to a winning game? But thats just an assumption you have during the game but the games not decided until its over. It cant go from one to the other as its set in stone apon game finish. What you think middle of the game is irelevant. Don't get me wrong if it helps your mental during the game then go for it, it will actually improve your win rates. But if you think about it objectively it doesn't actually change anything.
@@pyromeerkat4641 It's bc people thinking is often not objective..so you if people's state of mind was neutral like you propose then yes it doesn't matter but it's not so it's double. Riot August has basically said the same thing you shouldn't ff bc your taking a probability and making it a certainty.
@ Your talking like i didnt mention that in my second comment? Also talking like i approve of FF culture. Both not true. I said if its a mental thing for you then go ahead and think that way but that is literally and functionally not how it works. Thats all i said. And i didnt even mention FFing. Ofcourse never FF wins over ANY FF because its just statistics. Any chance is better then 0. I also dont get your comment tbh.
"they cant coexist with other people they dont know how to talk to other humans" and yet they play in the botlane. and intentionally make that one other special person's problem.
@@abebuckingham8198He unbanned him in the second lobby. Also, during the game, when he presses tab 7:54 , you can see that Caitlin's chat icon is not crossed out
At least he picked ADC, had a guy picked garen adc cause "hwei support deserves this" in diamond. (My hwei sup is cooking I swear guys ;×;) Edit: Unbelievable news, guys I got a cho gath adc this today and he flames me when he is 1/12
Adcs are something else man. Whiniest class in the whole game. Still can’t forget the time I locked in Janna support fairly recently, and my ad went on and on, whining every time they died that Janna was somehow a troll pick. I literally had counterpicked the enemy support and half their team and peeled them countless times, mentioned Janna was the highest winrate enchanter, but they were still adamant Janna was only viable in pro play and was troll in solo queue. Even after we won they were still deluded about this. Another time my ad complained about me getting hooked by the enemy pyke once when they couldn’t dodge a single hook. Said I was being diffed by a pyke who died nearly a dozen times and got an ego after our stealing kills from our fed solo laners and getting kills I handed to them. Won the game, got matched against them next game, made their supp go 0/9 and took back their LP I just gave them, that was nice. Would you believe they spent that whole game spam pinging and whining to their team too?
Janna only played in proplay lol , this dood dont even watch proplay or what , she was NEVER played in world and like below 10 matches in msi , she is purely a soloq champ
@@inhinh7017 She was picked quite a few times in pro play???? I mean why are you talking "this guy does even know pro play" and than you say a champ with OVER 1000 picks is "almost never picked".... broooooooo
Trust me its not only ADC Players, i play ADC and i had plenty of toxic Supports that banned sivir when i hovered her and then proceed to tell me that its my fault for Picking a Bad champion. There are just a lot of toxic people in the botlane in general, Play Support and ADC and you will see it from bothe Sides.
Uhm, he does play apc velkoz from time to time, I think he has a clear understanding on how the mentality works. The higher ELO you get the more players tend to get an egomaniac attitude. And wel since adc also kinda needs the most resources of any class, said mentality goes hand in hand with the role. I’ve seen the most delusional shit coming from both roles, but this is specific about this type of an adc player, no need to take it personal. No need to tell him to trust you since he knows it isn’t only adc players.
as an adc with a very chill mentality , i absolutely hate it when I find an enemy adc or even ally adc speaking with that behavior like the world rotates around them. Keep up the positive vibes, league is a toxic game that will get cured with patience.
i wish we had more adcs like you.. today i played supp Ivern, found a opportunity to root on enemy ADC while the supp was warding, so i flashed + Q on him, E slowed him and he was literally 1 auto away from death but my MF didnt use my Q dash, then she misses her E (somehow??) and couldnt get a single hit on the kaisa, and flashed AFTER she flashed. result? Thresh got both kills and wave was in a REALLY bad state for them. it could have been a perfectly clean kill on the kaisa for my MF if she just used my dash, and the wave would be permanently frozen so she would be level 2 for a really long time. and what happened after that? of course, the adc called me an elojobbed Ivern, farmed mid for the rest of the laning phase, and kept pinging me, so i just muted her. its honestly bizarre how people like this exist, they fail at literally everything theyre supposed to do and blame it on everyone else, but not on themselves. and this is master elo btw (💀💀💀)
@@gurenfang8233 Your report for SKUFIDON(Zed) has been saved and will be submitted at the end of the game. You can update your report ay any point during the game.
That's another example of why i select after ban. I think he couldn't apologize as he was mute, even though there is no way it did. Bashing on WR or losing streak is so annoying, i usualy says : "yeah, i had to lose this much to get matched with you ..."
I'm an ADC main and you guys can't imagine how much I hate ADC players. They're always either running it down or spamming pings at anyone not doing what they want. Like, can't they just chill?
i love how camera is in between the skills and the map on this one, oftentimes its covered and its hard to get a clear idea of whats going, always appreciate a map vid
Used to be both adc and supp, and I never banned or flamed anyone for picking a certain champ. But adc's flamed me if I went with non-tanks or champs without trillions of dashes and what not. Same when I went Kindred jg. Adc went "gg jungle lost", I ended up in 12/3, adc in 1/12, cuz he tried to solo kill the enemy in 1v5..
That hecarim may have made a lot of mistakes, but you could tell their head was solid the whole game. Just doin what he could to try and flip it back around, mad respect to them
The climb is a myth. You play at some level. You win a game you were not supposed to - you get placed above that level - you get nailed back. You lose a game you were not supposed to - you get placed below that level, you own. What would you rather do, own or get nailed, if the end result is the same? The answer is why you never press no on that 9-16 ff.
Adc players and junglers are, in my experience, the 2 roles with the most unhinged players. They both act like they are the main characters of the games. It's crazy
@kadiea8664 I disagree - Id argue, if anything, that midlaners are the main characters. Sure, lategame ADC might be considered the main character, but they cant even get to that point with the way they act
@@smbsmw1111imo it should be dependent on communication, and not just let you ban your ally’s pick on a whim. If it’s hovered it shouldn’t be bannable because there’s very very rarely a good reason to do so It’s a lot more antagonistic to just ban a pick without saying anything And if a player has to communicate anyway, it might as well be on the side of caution by letting the other person keep their pick 99.9% of the time, it’s used to troll allies. The 0.1% is not worth it tbh
@@smbsmw1111 Easy, just send a message box to hovered person if they want their champ banned or not. We know it's never gonna happen, but the solution is way simpler than you think.
There is nothing you can do or say to someone who is tilting this hard to get them back on track. The best you can do in this situation, is mute the individual and then coordinate with the other three as best as possible. Being a player down at the outset is always a rough time, but it's these matchups that show your own development as a player the most. Rather than playing with the mentality of getting a 'free win' from the top fragger with the single pocket pick, you should always expect the worst and plan to surpass it regardless. It's stuff like this that makes me want to go back into recording League of Legend runs.
As an ADC please don't be mean to those of us who are actually trying to play even though we get blamed 90% of the rest of the team's mistakes and 1 bad play = "ADC lost us the game/bot diff" instead of accepting that I made a mistake and learning from it
I told this to my friend when playing the other day, it baffles me that these people are real. These people probably have jobs, maybe a family, and they choose to act like children over a game. Crazy shit.
Just here to say pls do not put all adcs in the same basket. As a main adc/supp this type of behavior repulse me to the infinity. Keep the good mentallity going zapzap.
Yeah I've never understood why these streamers and people want to say like adc players this or support players that or jungle or whatever players are the problem. It's not specific role, it is just like a solid 75% of the player base as an entirety, I feel like there is no correlation between role and this behavior.
@@PetYouKim I feel like there is a bit of correlation between ADCs hating some sups, as sup if u have dogshit ADC u still have options. If u are ADC with dogshit sup, it's pure pain, especially if it's Velkoz etc. Leona can always flash stun/root/R and do atleast something. Bad Velkoz? not so much. But yea, please don't put all the ADC players in the same basket.
@@jansyrovatka4090 it is true it can be a pain when your supp stays behind you doing nothing. But I believe as an adc you can manage the situacion by your own a bit. I remember a guide from skillcaped where they showed a game by rekkles where he solo carry the lane with a clueless supp. Still I am with azzap on that having a good mentality is the most important thing first to enjoy the game and second to win. As zapzapers we have to change the community!
Im D2 60% wr and so far I have lost every single game with Rakan on my team. After 5 losses with him on my team I started seeing a pattern and started counting because they all were impressively bad. I promise you, 8 out of 8 games with a Rakan on my team we lost no matter what and ever since Im going crazy whenever I see him in champ select. I beg for supp to pick another champ and dodge if he locks in Rakan
of course, it is an adc main with main character syndrome, of course, he watched attack on titan and the point of the show went straaaaaaight above his head, bc even after all that happened he still decided to have eren as his in game name i can't with this edgelord "i'm better then everyone else around me" satoru gojo type shit
Alright I wanna chip in here a lil bit. "Eren" is actually a regular name in Turkey (it means "wise" and "mature"), and I think in a few of the middle eastern countries. Guy's name could literally be Eren, to his credit. Downside is it just gives me more reasons to be embarrassed of my own country.
I can tell you have never played the role. There is a reason 4 pro players need to play around it heavy and feed resources to it, because otherwise you are a canon minion. Its Riot lack of understanding of what they are doing. Dota doesnt have that issue
Alright azzapp. I’m gonna bite. For this split. I’m gonna agree to never surrender and reject tilt. If I end up being higher rank than I was at the end of last season,then I’ll admit loss. Never ff works. And I’ll update this commend to say if it did or not. But if I end up being lower rank,then I will keep ffing and stay biased against this hostage culture.
Take a break when that happens and do something else for a good while or find something else to take your frustration out on between games. You get stuck in a negative cycle if you try and push through frustration as you play worse when you're frustrated. Get something to snack on when you feel the game is losing. Only eat when that happens, never when it goes well (during death timer gives you time to ensure you don't get your keyboard sticky). Operant condition yourself lol.
he was saying ff 15 in the early part of the game after irelia died a couple of times. So he might have been more negativ that led azzap to just report him in the end
I can see where he's coming , like if you have a 20% wr after like 10 games in a row in the same day , please just take a break But the way he said it was a bit off
This game and ur toughts about "these are the games that make u climb" and "real LP made" made me think: - This +27LP are REAL and more importante to me. Because this points are the weight in the balance in my favor, crafted by myself. Free-win games and frustating loses are suck. The LP they result is the same in math, but in ur campaing, it's more for "Virtual LP". Because, this casual win and loses, come and go, and will forever, is nature of the game. SO, WHAT IF we had a mechanic in the game, that allows we Mark/Tag/Stamp this game or this LP rewards how "Eternal Victory" for example. This way we would have a active way to guide our journey, wins and loses. Obviously this need to have a limit, cap, whatever. So, in games like theses we would can "Enhanced" the LP and make them more resistent to loses. This Enhanced LP could stay in your rank points even though we lose games. For instance, they would resist like 3 loses in a row and, if that occours, they are destroyed... I think this has a potential to make the player look to they LPs and see more deep about what this points and numbers mean. This a callout to the beginning of the video when we find a "disturbed percentual person" that give so much relevance to that numbers. Just toughts. Thanks Azzapp for more healthy videos. Fist bump from Brazil 👊
18:08 man this shit is painful, happens to me all the time I press Enter, and somehow It doesnt work.... only in lol tho nowhere else but I start to type instantly and most of the time I look up to flash sound :(
Then there's me that gets Lissandra support who says I suck in the first two minutes of the match and that she's going to steal all the kills and spams in /all.
I absolutely refuse to believe that the cait is a master tier adc. that kind of positioning, lack of champ knowledge, even laning ability feels like peak gold low plat at best. seriously, how do you not know to split the lane when your lane opponents both have aoe, that you can't walk up that far in the lane against j4 leblanc, that you shouldn't be the most advanced member of your team in the river staring straight at fog of war, that you should be putting down traps around entrances to objectives, etc. honestly feels like the cait bought an account and is dodging games when they suspect they can't get carried because they know they're bad and don't want to derank
Because his teammates need to know he is playing a mage support, so the team has a good distribution of ap/ad and if possible the jg or top picks a tank/engager
@@Pherim_ there is plenty of time to chose your champ during after banning phase. You can still hover your champ after banning phase with the little arrow.
I think he expressed it in a wrong way, but I hate mages in support position when I play adc. It's a bad experience for the adc player and every time I enter a queue I pray my support picks something decent
Ima be real here, Irelia is a decently high skill curved character. I myself am terrible with her and have a decent time when I play against her. Then again, I have only been playing for about three or fours years
Ah classic riot games moment here at 9:41 every lane on azzap team losing on k/d/a, enemy has almost double the kills, more objectives, and more gold overall yet zed has shutdown because bausffs was too op for their old system 😂
I had a game yesterday and took 1 cannon from kalista at about 17 minutes in, and she started running it down. Like..... What kind of delusions must one have? Edit: we won feats of strength and were 3 drakes and 2 towers up. AKA We were not even close to losing.
Damn Azzap I already respected you, but now you just hit Nirvana or something else. Compare to you, I have twig mentality. Thanks for showing this Hard game. Actually learn a lot :D
Dunno, still getting surprised people with 500+ lvl accounts cant even properly buy items for certain heroes... that is just surprising to me... LoL players has to be 10% decent people and 90% degenerated clueless individuals.
Imagine being the guy supposedly trying to spread a more positive message in league, only to report midlane after getting ganked by the enemy midlaner once. Unhinged community from top to bottom.
I’m an adc who plays mostly samira and I never ever flame my support or team in general. It simply doesn’t help us to win. Even when they make mistakes I tell them it’s okay. Why is my role associated with egotistical pieces of shit?
I main Sona and pretty much one trick it at this point and one time the Samira player was yelling during the banning to never pick Sona since I was hovering it because she was bad and all and that we need someone with CC despite our top and jungle were already hovering Maokai and Sejuani. When I didn't respond to them at all they proceeded to Ban Sona last second. I was confused as to why they did that and all they said was I should pick something else. Normal people would've just dodged but I was a bit petty so locked in Thresh and proceeded to play very passively until level 6 where I instantly abandoned them and make plays in other lanes except bot lane, not even giving them the courtesy to leave behind wards. We somehow managed to win that game because our mid laner was a damn god and felt so satisfying to see them with a score of 1/8.
@Raymoclaus If you're demanding and forcing your way of playing on others you deserve what you get really. Sure it may be childish to basically let them drown but people like those don't deserve good things to happen to them either. I still played the best I can to win, I did my role as support in getting picks for the team, applying vision to key points in the map, and as far as my teammates were concerned the adc was just bad. That's the good thing about knowing how to play your role, you can just mask your intentions.
@ Sure, but in the event it goes poorly and you lose the game, you didn't just impact the turdnozzle of an adc, but also the rest of your team. Always best to let out your frustrations away from others.
Honestly im a horrible ADC player, but just me playing with my duo never tilting and playing smart makes me like 8 division stronger than my mechanics or adc knowledge...
adc players like that is why i cant make a request in draft or macro, cuz i am just told that "the whiny adc player just shut up", 1 time i locked in kai'sa in ranked only pyka were howering, and then mid lock tristana and top locks quinn, so i type "we need tank and ap, maybe nautilus or something, and an ap jungle if you can" pyke locks in and tells me "shut up R adc player, let the adults make their decisions" then jg locks kindred and tells me to kll myself if i dont like what theyre playing and i should delete the game cuz i didnt pick an ap carry and then asked them to take ap (i locked first when only pyke was howering) and then mid also chimes in to say he knows that adc mid is meta and i should go into botgame and try to learn the game before ruining their ranked game. So thanks to theese guys i just have to mute the chat when playing adc, like when i try to call dragon or baron after 3for 1 teamfight with smite advatage i just get told to sit and leave the objectives to the jungler...
Entire team laughing at the adc before the game even begins is something else.
Typical tbh
feels good to see adcs getting shafted in this meta right now
@@maximany9506 for real. First season where I'm not getting automatically called a griefer when picking APC mage instead of marksman
@@AniNeuraxAIVtuber what ? Apc has been good for so long wdym bro
@@nemesis6057 my highest ranks is plat1 if playing rankeds or gold to plat if playing normals, people there just flame you for anything :)
I've always found it bizarre how people can get this tilted before the game has even begun.
I always rationalize it with them losing their previous game
Ussually means they were already tilted before they ques up, either from previous match or from irl issues happening
@@hleroklite In which case, they should take a break and come back with a better attitude. But when has a league player made a rational decision
@@lucamecchia5354
Most player base hasn't learned to regulate their emotions lmfao
and they always are the worst teammate. just looking for other people to blame it on. couldnt possible be them
never seen someone this toxic over a winrate
It's not even his winrate, dude got mad over some random person's winrate.
While also picking a pretty low wr champion both times
u dont play much then
@@Wildcat12 23 percent wr is insane thou. he said he had 13% wr until recently which is 2 wins and 15 losses. that's a losers queue teammate if I've ever seen one. you have to not be playing to win or just terrible for that many games.. 1 win 5 losses ok maybe you're unlucky. 2 and 15 is not unlucky.
@@qsanchez95 But think of it from the other person's perspective. "Oh, I got a 13% winrate because I've been playing bad for a while now." What do you do from that point on? You need to keep playing if you want to get a win at all, in order to balance out a winrate, but if everyone around you keeps dodging games because you're the bad player, you never get the chance. Like, just because you reach a 13% winrate doesn't mean other average players should dictate that you don't get to play ever again
''This is where real LP is made; winning a game that you were losing'' This is so true, because not only do you gain LP (+20), you also prevent losing LP (-20), meaning you effectively gain double LP whenever you turn a losing game around
Idk about that one. In terms of the actual climb its only +20. Its not over till the fat lady sings as they say. If you turn a losing game into a winning game its the same as winning a game. If you lose a winning game its the same as losing a losing game. Does not matter what happens in the middle its the end result that matters. Just maximising lp per hour or win rate and your on the way up and thats the only thing that matters. Just don't crash out and int to force a losing game.
@@pyromeerkat4641 That's looking at it individually and not the point. Looking at overall climb, WLWW is not the same thing as WLLW.
@ I dont know what your point is? How is it changing from WLWW to WLLW? Because you changed a losing game to a winning game? But thats just an assumption you have during the game but the games not decided until its over. It cant go from one to the other as its set in stone apon game finish. What you think middle of the game is irelevant.
Don't get me wrong if it helps your mental during the game then go for it, it will actually improve your win rates. But if you think about it objectively it doesn't actually change anything.
@@pyromeerkat4641 It's bc people thinking is often not objective..so you if people's state of mind was neutral like you propose then yes it doesn't matter but it's not so it's double. Riot August has basically said the same thing you shouldn't ff bc your taking a probability and making it a certainty.
@ Your talking like i didnt mention that in my second comment? Also talking like i approve of FF culture. Both not true.
I said if its a mental thing for you then go ahead and think that way but that is literally and functionally not how it works. Thats all i said.
And i didnt even mention FFing. Ofcourse never FF wins over ANY FF because its just statistics. Any chance is better then 0.
I also dont get your comment tbh.
"they cant coexist with other people they dont know how to talk to other humans"
and yet they play in the botlane. and intentionally make that one other special person's problem.
being this toxic prior to game and then RUNNING it in the game is poetic
this the type of person to get mad at traffic before even getting into the car
that adc needs to follow my advice
pfp says everything
@@megagames4989 i was just gonna say that lmao, true.
LOL
@@megagames4989 that's the whole point
soo true
The Adc silence since the game started is funny af ngl
He was chat banned after the first lobby. So I don't think he could type.
@@abebuckingham8198He unbanned him in the second lobby. Also, during the game, when he presses tab 7:54 , you can see that Caitlin's chat icon is not crossed out
Yeah, usually being muted makes you silent... crazy
@@abebuckingham8198he unmuted him in the second lobby
@@blackhornwasphe unmuted in the second lobby bud
At least he picked ADC, had a guy picked garen adc cause "hwei support deserves this" in diamond. (My hwei sup is cooking I swear guys ;×;)
Edit: Unbelievable news, guys I got a cho gath adc this today and he flames me when he is 1/12
idk fam Garen's p nutty rn Hwei-Garen could slap
I will never understand people like that. They will literally ruin their own match just because they don't like what a teammate picked. Unreal
I had an adc run it down in dia because in a 3v3 fight they did 3 for 1 but he didnt get kills only assists
@@bigz205 it feels like a control thing. "I(!!!) Showed them. We lost only because I(!!!) Decided so. They deserved the punishment I(!!!) Dealt."
Full crit Garden ADC sounds racist and I like it
"I have never seen a worse Caitlin in my life"
Wanna duo with me?
2:12 THE gallio emote tells evrything XD
Adcs are something else man. Whiniest class in the whole game.
Still can’t forget the time I locked in Janna support fairly recently, and my ad went on and on, whining every time they died that Janna was somehow a troll pick. I literally had counterpicked the enemy support and half their team and peeled them countless times, mentioned Janna was the highest winrate enchanter, but they were still adamant Janna was only viable in pro play and was troll in solo queue. Even after we won they were still deluded about this.
Another time my ad complained about me getting hooked by the enemy pyke once when they couldn’t dodge a single hook. Said I was being diffed by a pyke who died nearly a dozen times and got an ego after our stealing kills from our fed solo laners and getting kills I handed to them. Won the game, got matched against them next game, made their supp go 0/9 and took back their LP I just gave them, that was nice. Would you believe they spent that whole game spam pinging and whining to their team too?
Janna only played in proplay lol , this dood dont even watch proplay or what , she was NEVER played in world and like below 10 matches in msi , she is purely a soloq champ
@@inhinh7017 She was picked quite a few times in pro play???? I mean why are you talking "this guy does even know pro play" and than you say a champ with OVER 1000 picks is "almost never picked".... broooooooo
@ 1000 pick in pisslow proplay lol , only na nerd play her
It takes insane mental to play that class. 95% of commenter here would unalive themselves after 3 games
Trust me its not only ADC Players, i play ADC and i had plenty of toxic Supports that banned sivir when i hovered her and then proceed to tell me that its my fault for Picking a Bad champion. There are just a lot of toxic people in the botlane in general, Play Support and ADC and you will see it from bothe Sides.
Yeah thats my two best roles and, ive seen some disgusting stuff in my 7 and a half years of playing.
I agree. We lose 1 fight he initiated and started taking cs and fucking up the wave. I think league players are just mentally ill.
Uhm, he does play apc velkoz from time to time, I think he has a clear understanding on how the mentality works.
The higher ELO you get the more players tend to get an egomaniac attitude. And wel since adc also kinda needs the most resources of any class, said mentality goes hand in hand with the role.
I’ve seen the most delusional shit coming from both roles, but this is specific about this type of an adc player, no need to take it personal. No need to tell him to trust you since he knows it isn’t only adc players.
Why would you ban sivir if it is bad 😭
Some people just
Bruh
@@hiltonalmeida4259yeah idk either and sivir isnt even bad shes just not as much of a carry as jhin or cait
as an adc with a very chill mentality , i absolutely hate it when I find an enemy adc or even ally adc speaking with that behavior like the world rotates around them. Keep up the positive vibes, league is a toxic game that will get cured with patience.
As a support main, bless your soul man
i wish we had more adcs like you.. today i played supp Ivern, found a opportunity to root on enemy ADC while the supp was warding, so i flashed + Q on him, E slowed him and he was literally 1 auto away from death but my MF didnt use my Q dash, then she misses her E (somehow??) and couldnt get a single hit on the kaisa, and flashed AFTER she flashed. result? Thresh got both kills and wave was in a REALLY bad state for them. it could have been a perfectly clean kill on the kaisa for my MF if she just used my dash, and the wave would be permanently frozen so she would be level 2 for a really long time. and what happened after that? of course, the adc called me an elojobbed Ivern, farmed mid for the rest of the laning phase, and kept pinging me, so i just muted her. its honestly bizarre how people like this exist, they fail at literally everything theyre supposed to do and blame it on everyone else, but not on themselves. and this is master elo btw (💀💀💀)
As a sup main adc like you make very happy to support,
Same, then again I'm Bronze and play more for fun
Man, those ADCs have a main character syndrome, they just don't understand their role, what are they doing and what are they should behave.
The teams reaction at start with the "hahah, fhis guy flamed Azzap" is so good.
"This is how you get strikes baus" quoted baus's coach
7:33 why did he report and mute zed for inting? he had 2 deaths? does azzap report ppl for playing bad?
oh srry hes 2/3 not 1/2. same thing tho.
watch it back he reported the caitlyn
@@gurenfang8233 Your report for SKUFIDON(Zed) has been saved and will be submitted at the end of the game. You can update your report ay any point during the game.
Bro you got not only the kda but also the player wrong, watch again
@@matitello4167 I think he means 7:29. He reported Zed for some reason
That's another example of why i select after ban.
I think he couldn't apologize as he was mute, even though there is no way it did.
Bashing on WR or losing streak is so annoying, i usualy says : "yeah, i had to lose this much to get matched with you ..."
I'm an ADC main and you guys can't imagine how much I hate ADC players. They're always either running it down or spamming pings at anyone not doing what they want. Like, can't they just chill?
16:18 Azzap, you forget that if the enemy kills you, THAT is a winning play for them
i love how camera is in between the skills and the map on this one, oftentimes its covered and its hard to get a clear idea of whats going, always appreciate a map vid
That not an adc thing, I see support doing the same if they don't like the ADC champ
Especialy If you Pick an enchanter Support in Support and especialy if you pick an ADC that had a weak early Game.
Used to be both adc and supp, and I never banned or flamed anyone for picking a certain champ. But adc's flamed me if I went with non-tanks or champs without trillions of dashes and what not. Same when I went Kindred jg. Adc went "gg jungle lost", I ended up in 12/3, adc in 1/12, cuz he tried to solo kill the enemy in 1v5..
80% of the time is the ADC, 20% is everyone else. It is mostly an ADC thing
Bro when the caitlyn just lets the seraphine walk away after the drag fight. You can tell they are playing locked camera with zero awareness.
One of my favorite league players. Not toxic, never ff, mute report dummy players. Next level predicts and game sense.
Just remember, cait is probably a riot employee, that just won a game and feels good about himself.
Why do you think that?
16:14 "This is fine." -> "No, it's not fine?"
Well maybe if the ADC don't focus a pink ward in the middle of a team fight
It’s so hard with vel’koz in such games where everybody has so many dashes. Corki, J4, Leblanc.
That hecarim may have made a lot of mistakes, but you could tell their head was solid the whole game. Just doin what he could to try and flip it back around, mad respect to them
The climb is a myth.
You play at some level. You win a game you were not supposed to - you get placed above that level - you get nailed back. You lose a game you were not supposed to - you get placed below that level, you own.
What would you rather do, own or get nailed, if the end result is the same? The answer is why you never press no on that 9-16 ff.
Adc players and junglers are, in my experience, the 2 roles with the most unhinged players. They both act like they are the main characters of the games. It's crazy
True
I mean they literally are
@kadiea8664 I disagree - Id argue, if anything, that midlaners are the main characters. Sure, lategame ADC might be considered the main character, but they cant even get to that point with the way they act
@@kadiea8664 If you are a bad player for sure. ADC and Jg cant do anything if the team dont cater them
Genuinely don’t understand why riot allow you to ban a character people are hovering. So dumb.
Sometimes you want avoid enemy picking say Irelia and you top is picking last. The current "open your eyes dumbass" popup is plenty enough imo
@@smbsmw1111imo it should be dependent on communication, and not just let you ban your ally’s pick on a whim.
If it’s hovered it shouldn’t be bannable because there’s very very rarely a good reason to do so
It’s a lot more antagonistic to just ban a pick without saying anything
And if a player has to communicate anyway, it might as well be on the side of caution by letting the other person keep their pick
99.9% of the time, it’s used to troll allies. The 0.1% is not worth it tbh
@@smbsmw1111 Easy, just send a message box to hovered person if they want their champ banned or not. We know it's never gonna happen, but the solution is way simpler than you think.
Its pretty obvious why actually. Imagine if someone on your team wants Mel, but the enemy has 1st pick.
There is nothing you can do or say to someone who is tilting this hard to get them back on track.
The best you can do in this situation, is mute the individual and then coordinate with the other three as best as possible.
Being a player down at the outset is always a rough time, but it's these matchups that show your own development as a player the most.
Rather than playing with the mentality of getting a 'free win' from the top fragger with the single pocket pick, you should always expect the worst and plan to surpass it regardless.
It's stuff like this that makes me want to go back into recording League of Legend runs.
As an ADC please don't be mean to those of us who are actually trying to play even though we get blamed 90% of the rest of the team's mistakes and 1 bad play = "ADC lost us the game/bot diff" instead of accepting that I made a mistake and learning from it
I told this to my friend when playing the other day, it baffles me that these people are real. These people probably have jobs, maybe a family, and they choose to act like children over a game. Crazy shit.
3:45 idk about high tier games but down in silver corkis a god damn menace. His early game damage is crazy with the e
Just here to say pls do not put all adcs in the same basket. As a main adc/supp this type of behavior repulse me to the infinity.
Keep the good mentallity going zapzap.
Yeah I've never understood why these streamers and people want to say like adc players this or support players that or jungle or whatever players are the problem. It's not specific role, it is just like a solid 75% of the player base as an entirety, I feel like there is no correlation between role and this behavior.
"good mentality" as he constantly flames and dogs on other people XD cope more, he's just a shit person like everyone else
If its a majority then its basically all.
@@PetYouKim I feel like there is a bit of correlation between ADCs hating some sups, as sup if u have dogshit ADC u still have options. If u are ADC with dogshit sup, it's pure pain, especially if it's Velkoz etc. Leona can always flash stun/root/R and do atleast something. Bad Velkoz? not so much.
But yea, please don't put all the ADC players in the same basket.
@@jansyrovatka4090 it is true it can be a pain when your supp stays behind you doing nothing. But I believe as an adc you can manage the situacion by your own a bit. I remember a guide from skillcaped where they showed a game by rekkles where he solo carry the lane with a clueless supp.
Still I am with azzap on that having a good mentality is the most important thing first to enjoy the game and second to win.
As zapzapers we have to change the community!
Im D2 60% wr and so far I have lost every single game with Rakan on my team. After 5 losses with him on my team I started seeing a pattern and started counting because they all were impressively bad. I promise you, 8 out of 8 games with a Rakan on my team we lost no matter what and ever since Im going crazy whenever I see him in champ select. I beg for supp to pick another champ and dodge if he locks in Rakan
Im confused , why did he report that zed?
For trying to ff.
Negative attitude, wanting to ff 15 whilst the rest of the team besides cait wanted to play it out.
As cookie cutter clear as it can be.
@@gdbluefirre6749
thought it was the adc that wanted to ff n throw lol
Non-stop yapping about surrender
thank you for helping me climb and get better at vel'koz
of course, it is an adc main with main character syndrome, of course, he watched attack on titan and the point of the show went straaaaaaight above his head, bc even after all that happened he still decided to have eren as his in game name
i can't with this edgelord "i'm better then everyone else around me" satoru gojo type shit
no flame but that is the weebiest way you could have said that
@@ponytail336 to be a weeb is to make fun of other weebs xD
@ facts brother. I am in no position to hate. I'm 3 years deep into learning Japanese for the funny
Alright I wanna chip in here a lil bit. "Eren" is actually a regular name in Turkey (it means "wise" and "mature"), and I think in a few of the middle eastern countries. Guy's name could literally be Eren, to his credit. Downside is it just gives me more reasons to be embarrassed of my own country.
I can tell you have never played the role. There is a reason 4 pro players need to play around it heavy and feed resources to it, because otherwise you are a canon minion. Its Riot lack of understanding of what they are doing. Dota doesnt have that issue
It's the definition of "he doesn't know"
Alright azzapp. I’m gonna bite. For this split. I’m gonna agree to never surrender and reject tilt. If I end up being higher rank than I was at the end of last season,then I’ll admit loss. Never ff works. And I’ll update this commend to say if it did or not. But if I end up being lower rank,then I will keep ffing and stay biased against this hostage culture.
Mental problems are too op,rito pls nerf.
I admire Azzap's mentality and try to become more like him, but I find it really hard to stay positive through losing streaks.
Take a break when that happens and do something else for a good while or find something else to take your frustration out on between games. You get stuck in a negative cycle if you try and push through frustration as you play worse when you're frustrated.
Get something to snack on when you feel the game is losing. Only eat when that happens, never when it goes well (during death timer gives you time to ensure you don't get your keyboard sticky). Operant condition yourself lol.
As of now, when I'm writing this comment, we are at 1,3k likes and 1 dislike ratio, I wonder who that 1 dislike come from
Interesting why the losing team even have shutdowns in the first place, like one more death and the gap just increases too much
7:29 Dont see why Azzapp reported the zed after the surrender vote did the zed even start the vote? he was moving when it was called.
yeah i have no idea what that was about too
he was saying ff 15 in the early part of the game after irelia died a couple of times. So he might have been more negativ that led azzap to just report him in the end
@@TheEmilkh ahhh I see that makes sense I must have missed it
This is one of the Azzapp videos ever.
I can see where he's coming , like if you have a 20% wr after like 10 games in a row in the same day , please just take a break
But the way he said it was a bit off
The sad part is, 3 people reported that guy, and the game was still gonna start.
Always cries as much as his name sake. EREN YEAGAR
The role is cursed, mu mental improved so much when I stopped playing adc
Sorry as an ADC player i'll try my best to be better than this XD
Azzapp doesn't need Feet of Strength, he has tentacles
Let's appreciate Caitlyn for clearing the ward while Hecarim was getting gunned down at 16:13 😂
Blade of the ruined king playing in background ftw...azzapp always had good taste in music
My morde main ass was happy when the music started. You always have goated songs on stream and on youtube.
Im curious what the report for the zed was it went by so quick lol.
Why did Zed get the report speedrun at 7:29?
Nvm Cait got the same treatment, I understand now.
This game and ur toughts about "these are the games that make u climb" and "real LP made" made me think:
- This +27LP are REAL and more importante to me. Because this points are the weight in the balance in my favor, crafted by myself. Free-win games and frustating loses are suck. The LP they result is the same in math, but in ur campaing, it's more for "Virtual LP". Because, this casual win and loses, come and go, and will forever, is nature of the game.
SO, WHAT IF we had a mechanic in the game, that allows we Mark/Tag/Stamp this game or this LP rewards how "Eternal Victory" for example. This way we would have a active way to guide our journey, wins and loses. Obviously this need to have a limit, cap, whatever. So, in games like theses we would can "Enhanced" the LP and make them more resistent to loses. This Enhanced LP could stay in your rank points even though we lose games. For instance, they would resist like 3 loses in a row and, if that occours, they are destroyed...
I think this has a potential to make the player look to they LPs and see more deep about what this points and numbers mean. This a callout to the beginning of the video when we find a "disturbed percentual person" that give so much relevance to that numbers.
Just toughts. Thanks Azzapp for more healthy videos. Fist bump from Brazil 👊
18:08 man this shit is painful, happens to me all the time I press Enter, and somehow It doesnt work.... only in lol tho nowhere else but I start to type instantly and most of the time I look up to flash sound :(
15:46 you declared victory too early Azzapp. You can't be doing that
Oh boy, Same man, same. Then they facecheck lvl 1 tribush with nobody around and spam ff15.
Then there's me that gets Lissandra support who says I suck in the first two minutes of the match and that she's going to steal all the kills and spams in /all.
I don´t need to see to know who didn´t honor azzap
18:05 AZZAPP WE SAW THAT ULT! Good that word "trap" doesnt have D or F in it :D
the nicest adc player vs immovable object
I absolutely refuse to believe that the cait is a master tier adc. that kind of positioning, lack of champ knowledge, even laning ability feels like peak gold low plat at best. seriously, how do you not know to split the lane when your lane opponents both have aoe, that you can't walk up that far in the lane against j4 leblanc, that you shouldn't be the most advanced member of your team in the river staring straight at fog of war, that you should be putting down traps around entrances to objectives, etc.
honestly feels like the cait bought an account and is dodging games when they suspect they can't get carried because they know they're bad and don't want to derank
Getting shut downs, adds a bounty to you, because you got gold.
i cant man stop laughing after this 18:09 he just wanted to say traps
tbh why show velkoz pick? your teammates target ban you chance is higher than someone actually ban velkoz
Because his teammates need to know he is playing a mage support, so the team has a good distribution of ap/ad and if possible the jg or top picks a tank/engager
@@matitello4167 just pick after the banning phase. He is right, too many people ban their teammates.
@@cedriccouderc9647 Too many peoples being assholes dont change what they said about team comp
@@Pherim_ there is plenty of time to chose your champ during after banning phase. You can still hover your champ after banning phase with the little arrow.
Doesnt your report from the first game auto mute the guy? Like you wouldnt SEE his chat in lobby 2 and the game, right?
he showed that, he unmuted in the lobby
Really curious if 23% vel'koz was bad or if 1/6/1 affected it
Main ADCs are the worst blight in this game, i´ll never feel anything for them or their problems
I believe that going up the ranks, the ADC's get crazier and crazier xD (from an adc main)
Most sane ADC
Everyone hates ADCs... ADCs included
I almost wonder if the yap machine was suspended from in game chat to.
7:30 whyd you report zed??
I think he expressed it in a wrong way, but I hate mages in support position when I play adc. It's a bad experience for the adc player and every time I enter a queue I pray my support picks something decent
Cool vid. What is the outro music called?
Make Me Fade -by K.Flay, Vanic
Ima be real here, Irelia is a decently high skill curved character. I myself am terrible with her and have a decent time when I play against her. Then again, I have only been playing for about three or fours years
And that's why Riot hid the names.
at 7:30 in the video why did he report zed ?
3:30 it worked in LCK so...
Idk about y’all but that I know who you are
You are
Dogshit was hilarious to me😂
To report him after that is wild
"did cait ult full health champs?" well to be honest, last time she ult she died before it finished like twice.
It’s so weird to me how an LB goes 6/1 and then types “open mid.” And this match isn’t even in Gold below.
Ah classic riot games moment here at 9:41 every lane on azzap team losing on k/d/a, enemy has almost double the kills, more objectives, and more gold overall yet zed has shutdown because bausffs was too op for their old system 😂
If someone on my team bans my support pick, I go Eve support. Not a second thought.
16:27 So close no matter how faaaar couldn't be much more from the heart
you did get a banger video thanks to them lmao, good compensation
I never understand people who say someone’s worse than them when they have hundreds of lp more
I had a game yesterday and took 1 cannon from kalista at about 17 minutes in, and she started running it down. Like..... What kind of delusions must one have?
Edit: we won feats of strength and were 3 drakes and 2 towers up. AKA We were not even close to losing.
Damn Azzap I already respected you, but now you just hit Nirvana or something else. Compare to you, I have twig mentality.
Thanks for showing this Hard game. Actually learn a lot :D
Dunno, still getting surprised people with 500+ lvl accounts cant even properly buy items for certain heroes... that is just surprising to me... LoL players has to be 10% decent people and 90% degenerated clueless individuals.
Imagine being the guy supposedly trying to spread a more positive message in league, only to report midlane after getting ganked by the enemy midlaner once. Unhinged community from top to bottom.
Bro wants the most sqishy champion in the team to go into a jungle with 0 vision and place traps yeah amazing man you seem like a pro support
I’m an adc who plays mostly samira and I never ever flame my support or team in general. It simply doesn’t help us to win. Even when they make mistakes I tell them it’s okay. Why is my role associated with egotistical pieces of shit?
I main Sona and pretty much one trick it at this point and one time the Samira player was yelling during the banning to never pick Sona since I was hovering it because she was bad and all and that we need someone with CC despite our top and jungle were already hovering Maokai and Sejuani. When I didn't respond to them at all they proceeded to Ban Sona last second. I was confused as to why they did that and all they said was I should pick something else. Normal people would've just dodged but I was a bit petty so locked in Thresh and proceeded to play very passively until level 6 where I instantly abandoned them and make plays in other lanes except bot lane, not even giving them the courtesy to leave behind wards. We somehow managed to win that game because our mid laner was a damn god and felt so satisfying to see them with a score of 1/8.
so you let your emotions take over and knowingly played sub-optimally as revenge? Win or not, that's child behaviour.
@Raymoclaus If you're demanding and forcing your way of playing on others you deserve what you get really. Sure it may be childish to basically let them drown but people like those don't deserve good things to happen to them either. I still played the best I can to win, I did my role as support in getting picks for the team, applying vision to key points in the map, and as far as my teammates were concerned the adc was just bad. That's the good thing about knowing how to play your role, you can just mask your intentions.
@ Sure, but in the event it goes poorly and you lose the game, you didn't just impact the turdnozzle of an adc, but also the rest of your team. Always best to let out your frustrations away from others.
Honestly im a horrible ADC player, but just me playing with my duo never tilting and playing smart makes me like 8 division stronger than my mechanics or adc knowledge...
adc players like that is why i cant make a request in draft or macro, cuz i am just told that "the whiny adc player just shut up", 1 time i locked in kai'sa in ranked only pyka were howering, and then mid lock tristana and top locks quinn, so i type "we need tank and ap, maybe nautilus or something, and an ap jungle if you can"
pyke locks in and tells me "shut up R adc player, let the adults make their decisions" then jg locks kindred and tells me to kll myself if i dont like what theyre playing and i should delete the game cuz i didnt pick an ap carry and then asked them to take ap (i locked first when only pyke was howering) and then mid also chimes in to say he knows that adc mid is meta and i should go into botgame and try to learn the game before ruining their ranked game. So thanks to theese guys i just have to mute the chat when playing adc, like when i try to call dragon or baron after 3for 1 teamfight with smite advatage i just get told to sit and leave the objectives to the jungler...