Yeah but this is also flawed now thinking about it, weve seen julius ball in regular season, we need more from him in playoffs and for him to be healthy is all
💯 heathy Randle lets Brunson rest and stay fresh. Wished Thibs would stagnate there minutes so they don’t play with each other often and both get there touches and usage
i think you're underestimating randles fit with the current squad, he can be a real secondary creator where hes attacking hard closeouts, mismatches, and 4 on 3 opportunities.i think we saw in january that he was accepting his new role before he got hurt
I think his value to this team depends too much on betting on his poor health. And that's just not something I'd want to bet on given his injury history. A lot of these injury prone players, I'd get rid of. Availability is the best ability
+MrE Then you'll want to get rid of OG and Mitch and Hartenstein. Them and Julius are four big players who are strong reasons why the Knicks have been successful lately. Who are we replacing them with that make us better? Who are also healthy sturdy players???
@@MrE_ im pretty sure randle has still played more games than most players since hes been in the league. only his first season and this past season did he not play more than 70 games
I don't see any logic in trading Randle for Bridges. They'd lose points and rebounds and size, which could become even a bigger issue for NYK if they can't resign Hartenstein. Yeah, they'd gain some defense, youth, and speed, but not sure that makes sense.
I'm a lifelong Celtic fan and have enjoyed my opportunities to make fun of the Knicks for their stupidity in the front office over the years. A healthy Knicks team might have beaten my Celtics this year though, I will freely admit. Your team is quite admittedly good right now. One thing you should be concerned about, related to injuries though is Tibbs very very bad habit of running his players into the ground and playing them huge minutes until they have nothing left in the gas tank. Theirs another NBA TH-camr who does a great video on the subject. Will admit, I actually think basketball is more fun to watch not that the Knicks are actually relevant. Hasn't happened for a while. Best of luck to your team going forward.
Every Mikal for Randle trade I've seen starts with a ridiculous false claim that Bridges is even close to the player Randle is. Randle is a three time all star, two time all-nba guy, who averages more points, rebounds, and assists then Bridges. But ultimately what makes Randle's value unmeasurable is he can't be guarded one on one, and double teaming Randle unlocks the Knicks being one of the more efficient offenses in the league like they were in January.
As a diehard Knick fan, I don't think you're properly evaluating Randle. The guy has gotten more efficient every year since 2021 and fits the culture of big, good rebounding players who can play good post defense when called upon. Bridges is great and if we could give up maybe Deuce, Mitch and a couple firsts then I see it but I don't see giving up a three time all star for a player who is good but not on that level. Also Randle as a guy who pulls gravity from Brunson is a great fit alongside OG who I pray re-signs
I like Randle actually met him great guy I appreciate what he has done for New York but we need him in money time which is the playoffs he hasn't been performing there that was one of the reason I was happy that R.J Barrett left need you in those clutch moments
@@KingbossdonRJ was the second best player in last years playoffs. Wym he didn’t show up? Also Randle has only been to 2 playoffs, and he was injured the last time.
Trading Randle for Bridges would be a disaster. I genuinely don’t understand the Bridges appeal. The Nets value him like a superstar and want a superstar package, when in reality he’s a glorified role player. Even his defense has taken a step back
He’s lowering his value. His ENTIRE bro crew is good and on the same team in NYC! He is the second most dynamic player of the four. If not the most. Him with OG gives us 2 of the best 10 defenders in the nba. We would have a potential dynasty.
@@lyriktehutiBrooklyn still holds him in the highest regard, and I don’t think you should automatically assume he had a bad year to lower his value on purpose. I don’t think trading a three time all star in Julius, another player or two, and multiple firsts for an overrated two way wing makes them better now or in the long run. It would be a major mistake on the Knicks part to overpay for another guy based on the Nova friendship
If I'm a Knicks fan then I'm waiting for a player that is a clear upgrade from Randle at his position so basically Giannis or KD. Makes no sense to me to overpay for Mikal.
@@wilmaso then Sherlock u shouldn't speak on Giannis if it's not realistic. And Randle doesn't even fit with this unit. Plus how in the hell is u cats going to speak down on Randle all these years then expect y'all to deal him for a superstar?
@theetruth8626 Knicks record after trading for OG shows that Randle absolutely fits with that unit, and they were pretty damn unstoppable as well before injuries struck. Randle can shoot the ball at a decent percentage, works in the pick and roll, is one of the better post players in the league, and demands attention from defences. Having him there adds an extra layer to the Knicks offence whilst creating space for Brunson to work. Saying Randle doesn't fit is just admitting you didn't watch them until the playoffs.
every ball talker i've seen keeps acting like the knicks need all this stuff they already have. "who's a good backcourt fit with jalen brunson" when we already have donte divincenzo, a 16 ppg elite sharpshooter who plays great defense and can spot up or create off the dribble whenever needed. we don't need any more guards
Tbh swapping Randle + stuff for bridges and resigning Anunoby and hartenstein and this team is a legit championship contender. Coming from a Celtics fan that Knicks team would be scary af…
@@TruthSpeaker4I would take bridges Honeslty much better to way player on the defensive side and more well rounded.randle hurts also sometimes with his poor additude and lack of offort
@@Chickenpesto2468 nah its only 3 25 10 & 5 guys in the league.. Jokic ,, Embiid & Randle period yall need to watch more ball .. Bridges is not better than Randle by a long shot he’s a 3x all star & 2x all nba for a reason.. Yall casual fans gotta do better.. the Randle hate is excessive
Why do people disrespect Randle so much?? He has a really rare skill set. Post moves with a step back, could do pick and roll as the screener and or ball handler. If he figures out how to create for others, he will pretty much be an mvp candidate
@@Kadri.762 there more to consider than just numbers. He doesn’t go under 40% every single game just like Brunson is not gonna score 40 points every game. Randles first playoff run he had NO help. 2nd best player was Butks 💀
@@Liftupfashion you can make excuses for him all you want..I’m not hating. I actually like randle ….you wanted to know why people thinks he sucks and I gave you the consensus ..if he can maintain his regular season efficiency during the playoffs people will view him in a better light simple
@@Liftupfashion and as a playoff performer he’s shooting sub 40% fg doesn’t matter if it’s every game or not it’s your average 16 points on 15 shots is not good
I havent heard snyone mention it but i think they can make their offense better and give og more responsibility without giving up big depth if they trade julius randle and some pieces to the jazz for lauri markinen
Mikal is NOT a same high level player as randle. He is a good piece kinda like a over glorified role player. But alittle better at times. Donavan is the player this knicks team needs to pair next to randle an brunson. Knicks would be a power house.
Nobody is paying 4 frp for bridges. He’s a complimentary 3rd option on a good team at best. If he was a 1st or 2nd option, that teams best outlook is lottery.
Julius was on path to be ALL NBA this season. Upgrade? And nobody can even play in the post like Randle in this style of NBA... i guess you need to fill space...
Run it back and sign og money talks and depth and get better around the margins see if randle can actually not fall off during the playoffs only trade that should be considered is for another all nba player to swap with randle who fits better around Brunson but I don’t see it
There is literally no viable trade for Randle that makes the Knicks better. They would have to get lucky and have the player they trade for blossom like Randle and Brunson did.
Stop lying New York healthy ain't beating Milwaukee Miami Philly or Boston healthy. New York was only in that position this season is because of injuries to the elite teams
@@jacobartis9853 no u must not watch the games bro. New York became 2nd seed because of Giannis injury? That's facts New York moved up in the rankings because of Embiid injury. That's facts go look at the standings. The same with Jimmy injuries. Jimmy spoke the truth if he was playing New York would been at home. What game is u watching
If possible they can keep both OG and iHart then go for a second scoring PG via draft or free agency (DeMar DeRozan or Tyus Jones) could be the game plan. I can see them possibly doing a trade at the deadline of the new season, but that's all in the air for now.
As a pacers fan I feel this. I remember the Lakers trying to trade for someone from the pacers and everyone was basically like the pacers should just give the Lakers their guy
Bridges wants to plan with his Nova brothers. All he needs to do is state that he will not sign an extension and wants to test free agency in two years. His trade value will drop for all teams. Bojan Bogdanović + two 1st rounders for Mikal Bridges
Thank goodness you're not in charge. Bridges is definitely not better than Randle as well as Bridges is highly overrated. The playoffs showed how important Randle is to the team.
100% agreed. He's a Nets fan, so it doesn't surprise me, but Bridges' value is heavily inflated from the "great player on a bad team" phenomena. Randle is a guy who can elevate a bad roster to being decent, Bridges cannot remotely do that. Randle can be a #2 on a championship squad, Bridges cannot.
As a Mavs fan, I want to see Brunson do well. I like the Bridges trade. Brunson - DiVencenzo - Bridges - OG - Hartenstein with Josh Hart, Bogdan, & Mitchell Robinson off the bench. Thats a strong playoff 8
Honestly kinda surprised Lauri wasn’t mentioned when talking about replacing Randle. Sounds like Utah is willing to trade him for the right price and a 3 team deal could land them a ton of picks
At the six minute mark of this video when he suggests that the Knicks next move is to trade Julius Randle I immediately hit pause, came to the comment section to tell everybody watching that this guy does not know ball and even if he does, he doesn’t know this Knicks team. The Knicks are never trading Julius Randle.😂😂😂
I love how every one of these has Knicks trading a 3 time all star for a fucking role player. and you want picks with that too? i hate this agenda of bridges being some final piece just cause he went to nova. Randle is the better player i dont care if Bridges came out of the same womb as Brunson the Knicks shouldnt do that deal
I think Donovan and Brunson would work, like you said, Brunson needs another creator on the team, you just cant give all that responsability to Brunson. Just see Kyrie and Luka, or Tatum and Brown. People were saying the same thing about those players and see where they are now. The only downside could be on the defensive end, but Im sure Mitchell would improve defensively on the Knicks
I think Knicks should run it back for now. Let’s see what the trio of og, Randle, and Brunson can do. If it’s shit come December January then we can look for a trade
I feel like the Knicks are going to have more trouble this offseason than people realize. The odds the Knicks are able to keep both OG and Hartenstein are very low. There’s a lot of teams who will want a player like Hartenstein and Claxton is the only other guy like him in free agency for now. Both bigs will likely get contracts around $15-20 million. Losing Hartenstein will be a bigger issue than people realize, especially with Mitchell Robinson’s spotty health record recently. Keeping Precious should also be a high priority and he’ll also be getting a pay raise albeit much smaller. The other issue is trading for Mikal Bridges. He really is the perfect fit for the Knicks to replace Bojan and Randle. Both will have to go by 2025. One has to go for cap space after Brunson’s extension, the other for a fit upgrade. The reality is that if Mikal becomes available, no team can beat Houston in a 2 team trade. The Knicks have to get multiple teams. Luckily, they can offer both Bojan and Randle to 1-2 other teams and have both return packages + some of their own picks go to Brooklyn. That’s really their best shot though. At the end of the day, if Brooklyn as a rebuilding team would much rather 4 of their own picks than 6 picks from contending teams.
As a Nets fan I can admit Bridges would be perfect on the Knicks for all the reasons mentioned. Don’t know what it would take for the Nets to let him go though.
If the Knicks decide to trade Randle (an all nba level player mind you) and 1st round picks for Mikal Bridges and don't win the chip that year or at least make the Finals, I want the whole front office fired.
@@theetruth8626 what are you babbling about? First of all Randle is an All NBA player who is on a great contract and second the Knicks have tons of draft picks they can give up. Also let's remember when you trade a superstar it's going to have to be to a place that they will want to be at. I don't think any of these will happen this year but it's definitely not out of the question by this time next year. Let's be real bro
The Randle criticism is only still being heard cause he got hurt before the Knicks made the playoffs. In general the media chatter is reactionary and late to meet the actual trends. Oddly enough them same folks would have been down talking the Knicks if they lost in the second round fully healthy instead of talking about their potential.
Like he was gettin doubled every play his 1st two years n was puttin up numbers still now we got a team where u can’t double him fans wanna trade him the man is gone to cook wit this squad like the man was hurt it’s not like he always hurt
In what universe is Mikal as good as Randle??? Randle has been an All Star 3 of the last 4 years, averaging 25/10/5. There are only 3 other guys in the league that can say that. Mikal took his team all the way to…oh yeah NOWHERE! They couldn’t even make the play-in in an injury riddled, terrible eastern conference. Make it make sense! 🤦🏽♂️
I think the pacers should go for mikal bridges and undermine the knicks. I don’t know which of the young guys they’d give up maybe neismith and some picks or throw in a Doug McDermott for cap room to resign Siakem. However it would shake out that’s a deal I’d be looking to do. He fits their play style, adds essential defense, has on ball scoring capabilities to throw in the mix and fits their timeline exceptionally well. It really comes down to getting siakem back under contract and which of the young guys is expendable
what about towns? hes been linked to NY plenty in the past and is currently (and forever) being discussed as a trade candidate. Randolph + a few firsts for Towns
@@nicholasrose4448 Obviously Towns is better than Randall and a few late 1sts but the only real L in this situation is Towns contract. we cant pay that man 60million dollars
@@grandmabetty7173 That's true, I would say he has deficiencies but the Knicks might be one of the few teams who can cover... His contract is monstrous. 60k plus up to 28 is insane.
Okay this may be crazy but, if this finals goes the way that we all kind of think and Boston just ends up getting owned and Tatum becomes unplayable, is there a world where someone like him or Jaylen Brown are available? Bc I LOVE the fit of either of those guys and if boston commits to a full rebuild, which again I expect when they lose to dallas, then they'd likely want to get back as many picks as they can. Just saying it's an overlooked option that most of Boston's roster is gonna probably be available this year or at the deadline.
OG is great but I will say hes often injured, that does worry me, I hope we can run it back, this team deserves another chance, we need some more depth on the bench, and no way Im trading Randle and picks for bridges, trading the same production and picks, no thanks.
Julius to Houston. He’s from Dallas but it’s still Texas. It’s gonna take like a 3-4 team trade to get Mikal. We get Houston to give BK their picks back, add a few picks and an expiring contract.
Randle for Mikal is not happening. Randle is the superior player on his own and his chemistry with Brunson is fantastic. Hell, the Brunson/Randle/OG trio had a damn +/- of +12 together in the games they played. I can see the Knicks adding Mikal with his connections and good contract, but it'd be draft pick centric (think Bogdanovic, McBride, and 3 firsts). Heck, with Spida looking like he's staying in Cleveland, this is the time for the Nets to accumulate draft capital and accept a rebuild.
I see him asking for a lot ending up in Philly then they drop a bunch of picks for bridges. If they can keep OG trade Randle for Bridges and move OG to PF
The most difficult transition for any team to make is going from very good to legit title contender. Overall I'd say the Knicks are in a tricky spot. The roster is going to stupid expensive and even fully healthy they are a notch below true contender. They need an all NBA caliber player to complete their team and there doesn't appear to be one available. If the Knicks want to be more than a feel good story Leon Rose needs to get extremely aggressive in order to pry another star loose. Being the savior that brought the Knicks a title should be a very enticing hook to do just that.
I would rather we keep our core rather than give up too much for a superstar that doesn't fit the mold of this team's defensive culture. I say draft smart and then see what trade deadline looks like. Also, if Thibs keeps running our guys to the floor, get a new coach - see if Mark Jackson is interested.
The video is cute but the reason the knicks even made it as far as they did was because the east had a ton of injuries. Once the easts stars are back in alignment the knicks arent getting out of the second round.
How much does 76ers have cap space? I see news how they are after PG, Jimmy, Onunoby, LaVine, James. I understand that they have space for ONE max contract, right?
Personally I like Randle because he is our only player on the Knicks down low who has a miss-match & requires double teaming like honestly Randle vs Siakam Randle wins that battle so let's just be patient for that disgruntled star to emerge..😊
I kind of miss when you implemented more Humor or more of yourself into your Videos. I understand maybe the recent topics dont lent themself to that sort of commentary but i enjoyed it lots when it was that way. Right Before the Playoffs if i recall correctly 😊 still, keep up the good work my man.
They don'y need another guard on superstar contract. They need someone tu upgrade Randle's PF spot: Giannis, Zion. Bridges or Jerami Grant woud nice, but not enough to beat BOS powerhouse.
lost me when u suggest giving up Randle for bridges; Thats just insane.... Randle is hands down a MUCH better player than Mikal, AND Randle fits perfectly with Brunson with the way he draws doubles. Bogan + Mitch + a bunch of picks for Dejounte or Mikal is the trade to try and make imo.
I know he isnt talking about these teams but what do you guys think Kat for trae straight up Gives the wolves the pg and play make to better optimize rudy they have the defensive to protect trae Hawk fresh looking teams that id say is better then what they currently have
Trade for Lillard and have him play off ball. It gives Brunson way more help handling the ball, gets Divincenzo in the 6th man role and spreads them out. If they can get him and resign Anounoby and Hartenstein, trade Robinson and Randle. I think thats another way to go. Lillard has a couple seasons of good ball left and his shooting range starts at half court.
@@fabo0913 Wrong question. The real question is: to who? NOBODY wants Randle. The Knicks would have to attach picks for anyone to even take his contract. He doesn't make good teams better and he's not a mentor/culture changer for a bottom feeding team. He's an empty calories inefficient turnover box statpadder who doesn't play defense, pouts when he doesn't get his numbers, and has temper tantrums.
@@Michael_Page I don’t love Randle by any stretch but to act like he has no use is kinda silly. If I’m the Knicks I rather see Brunson possessions not Randle post ups. But acting like he has no use is dumb
@@maxgarrett8135 Didn't say he didn't have any use, I said nobody wants him. Two very different things. One is a matter of opinion, the other is a fact. It is our opinion as Knicks fans that he is useful, but it is a fact that nobody else in the league wants him.
@@ericsmusic5927 As a #3 option. Randle was able to elevate a truly awful Knicks team to playoff status as a #1 in 2021, and he's been a great #2 behind Brunson. If anything, Bridges is grossly overrated from being a good player on a bad team. He doesn't elevate the Nets as a #1 to anything other than the bottom and he's barely a #2 on a playoff team.
@@ericsmusic5927 you clearly don’t know ball. Did you watch Mikal play this year? Randle was balling before the injury and we looked like the best team in the league. Why fuck that up for a hypothetical? If we want Mikal, trade Bogi, Duece and picks. You only trade Randle if you are getting a all-star caliber player in return.
I think it’s more likely that Hartenstein stays in NY than Claxton staying in Brooklyn. When he dips for greener pastures we can talk about Deuce/Mitch and picks for Mikal 😂
Idk man I think they should keep Randle, trade Mitch, Bojan and picks for a piece or two and then they’re straight. The chemistry will only get better, Deuce McBride will get better and continuity is key
Here what will actually happen: OG walks because the Knicks were painfully average without him, no one wants the Knicks picks because they famously want teams to bend over backwards for them, the Nets refuse to trade with the Knicks because they don’t want to see the other NY team be good, and no one wants Randle because he’s severely overrated. Brunson regresses to the mean and the Knicks are a play in team.
If I'm the Knicks I know people are gonna be mad but and I'm a fan if his but you trade Julius Randle a 1st and 2nd round picks to bring in Kevin Durant he will be a great number 2 he is an upgrade on offense he is goo's with the mid-range and 3 point shot. He will take pressure of the Villanova 3 and he will have even more to prove since Curry got his 4th ring and Kyrie Irving may get his 2nd 🏆 🏆
I want them to bring back OG, if they can’t resign I hart go get nikola vuc and trade for Jordan clarkson. Please do not trade Randle based on fit. When Randle and Brunson played together they played great. Only way Randle gets moved is for a star who’s better then him
Bringing back OG is the most important thing the Knicks got to do.
Facts💯
He makes us so versatile on both ends. His contract should be the priority. Just need this team to stay healthy
Agree but with caveat that basically anything over 30 mil a year needs to be incentivized on games played
Knicks Fan here. Run it back with some upgrade then let’s revisit at the trade deadline
Exactly 💯
Yeah but this is also flawed now thinking about it, weve seen julius ball in regular season, we need more from him in playoffs and for him to be healthy is all
Trade randle
💯 heathy Randle lets Brunson rest and stay fresh. Wished Thibs would stagnate there minutes so they don’t play with each other often and both get there touches and usage
Who says no
J Allen + Contract Filler for Mitchell Robinson + Bojan Bogdanovic + 25th pick + 38 Pick + Nets (25) 2nd
i think you're underestimating randles fit with the current squad, he can be a real secondary creator where hes attacking hard closeouts, mismatches, and 4 on 3 opportunities.i think we saw in january that he was accepting his new role before
he got hurt
Randle is also one of few players that has post moves and can hit step backs
I think his value to this team depends too much on betting on his poor health. And that's just not something I'd want to bet on given his injury history. A lot of these injury prone players, I'd get rid of. Availability is the best ability
+MrE Then you'll want to get rid of OG and Mitch and Hartenstein. Them and Julius are four big players who are strong reasons why the Knicks have been successful lately. Who are we replacing them with that make us better? Who are also healthy sturdy players???
@@MrE_ im pretty sure randle has still played more games than most players since hes been in the league. only his first season and this past season did he not play more than 70 games
I think it's over estimated
I’m not trading a 2 time all nba player for Mikal Bridges……
Exactly
Me neither and I want Mikal at the knicks 😅
2 time all nba and perennial playoff dropper
Get mikal keep Randle resign and trade og. Og and mikal have the same skill set
Are you giving Randle a 4 year extension then dummy?
I don't see any logic in trading Randle for Bridges. They'd lose points and rebounds and size, which could become even a bigger issue for NYK if they can't resign Hartenstein. Yeah, they'd gain some defense, youth, and speed, but not sure that makes sense.
As a lifetime Knicks fan, I’ve just been happy they’re making
The playoffs again. Hopefully they can stay healthy honestly.
I would love to see them keep this up. Brunson was the right move for sure
I'm a lifelong Celtic fan and have enjoyed my opportunities to make fun of the Knicks for their stupidity in the front office over the years. A healthy Knicks team might have beaten my Celtics this year though, I will freely admit. Your team is quite admittedly good right now. One thing you should be concerned about, related to injuries though is Tibbs very very bad habit of running his players into the ground and playing them huge minutes until they have nothing left in the gas tank. Theirs another NBA TH-camr who does a great video on the subject. Will admit, I actually think basketball is more fun to watch not that the Knicks are actually relevant. Hasn't happened for a while. Best of luck to your team going forward.
So trade an ALL STAR ALL NBA player AND first round picks for a number 2 or 3 option in Bridges? What you smoking boy?
The Knicks have been their own biggest future problem in the playoffs. Everyone played so damn good that now they all worth too much.
U mean another second round exit
You’re right. Success can be a double edged sword
OGs agent is the gm’s son and he specifically stated he’d take a pay cut if he was traded to the Knicks… …
Tell’em again
Every Mikal for Randle trade I've seen starts with a ridiculous false claim that Bridges is even close to the player Randle is. Randle is a three time all star, two time all-nba guy, who averages more points, rebounds, and assists then Bridges. But ultimately what makes Randle's value unmeasurable is he can't be guarded one on one, and double teaming Randle unlocks the Knicks being one of the more efficient offenses in the league like they were in January.
As a diehard Knick fan, I don't think you're properly evaluating Randle. The guy has gotten more efficient every year since 2021 and fits the culture of big, good rebounding players who can play good post defense when called upon. Bridges is great and if we could give up maybe Deuce, Mitch and a couple firsts then I see it but I don't see giving up a three time all star for a player who is good but not on that level. Also Randle as a guy who pulls gravity from Brunson is a great fit alongside OG who I pray re-signs
Exactly
I like Randle actually met him great guy I appreciate what he has done for New York but we need him in money time which is the playoffs he hasn't been performing there that was one of the reason I was happy that R.J Barrett left need you in those clutch moments
@@KingbossdonRJ was the second best player in last years playoffs. Wym he didn’t show up? Also Randle has only been to 2 playoffs, and he was injured the last time.
Trading Randle for Bridges would be a disaster. I genuinely don’t understand the Bridges appeal. The Nets value him like a superstar and want a superstar package, when in reality he’s a glorified role player. Even his defense has taken a step back
He’s lowering his value. His ENTIRE bro crew is good and on the same team in NYC! He is the second most dynamic player of the four. If not the most. Him with OG gives us 2 of the best 10 defenders in the nba. We would have a potential dynasty.
@@lyriktehutiBrooklyn still holds him in the highest regard, and I don’t think you should automatically assume he had a bad year to lower his value on purpose. I don’t think trading a three time all star in Julius, another player or two, and multiple firsts for an overrated two way wing makes them better now or in the long run. It would be a major mistake on the Knicks part to overpay for another guy based on the Nova friendship
If I'm a Knicks fan then I'm waiting for a player that is a clear upgrade from Randle at his position so basically Giannis or KD. Makes no sense to me to overpay for Mikal.
Giannis not leaving Milwaukee for no New York silly
@@theetruth8626 no shyt sherlock. He's just saying you don't trade randle to downgrade.
@@wilmaso then Sherlock u shouldn't speak on Giannis if it's not realistic. And Randle doesn't even fit with this unit. Plus how in the hell is u cats going to speak down on Randle all these years then expect y'all to deal him for a superstar?
@theetruth8626 Knicks record after trading for OG shows that Randle absolutely fits with that unit, and they were pretty damn unstoppable as well before injuries struck. Randle can shoot the ball at a decent percentage, works in the pick and roll, is one of the better post players in the league, and demands attention from defences. Having him there adds an extra layer to the Knicks offence whilst creating space for Brunson to work. Saying Randle doesn't fit is just admitting you didn't watch them until the playoffs.
@@Mr4thQTR stop lying Randle can't play off the ball effectively and is a iso scorer
every ball talker i've seen keeps acting like the knicks need all this stuff they already have. "who's a good backcourt fit with jalen brunson" when we already have donte divincenzo, a 16 ppg elite sharpshooter who plays great defense and can spot up or create off the dribble whenever needed. we don't need any more guards
Tbh swapping Randle + stuff for bridges and resigning Anunoby and hartenstein and this team is a legit championship contender. Coming from a Celtics fan that Knicks team would be scary af…
How when Randle is better than Bridges?
@@TruthSpeaker4I would take bridges Honeslty much better to way player on the defensive side and more well rounded.randle hurts also sometimes with his poor additude and lack of offort
@@Chickenpesto2468 nah its only 3 25 10 & 5 guys in the league.. Jokic ,, Embiid & Randle period yall need to watch more ball .. Bridges is not better than Randle by a long shot he’s a 3x all star & 2x all nba for a reason.. Yall casual fans gotta do better.. the Randle hate is excessive
@@TruthSpeaker4ong these Randle haters literally don’t watch us but got mad stuff to say
holy... imagine OG and Bridges in the same team..
I can really appreciate your understanding of the Knicks’ situation considering some Knicks fans don’t even understand it at the level you do
Why do people disrespect Randle so much?? He has a really rare skill set. Post moves with a step back, could do pick and roll as the screener and or ball handler. If he figures out how to create for others, he will pretty much be an mvp candidate
It’s because he falls off a cliff during the playoffs it’s tough to win a series when he’s dropping below 40% from the field and 26% from three
@@Kadri.762 there more to consider than just numbers. He doesn’t go under 40% every single game just like Brunson is not gonna score 40 points every game. Randles first playoff run he had NO help. 2nd best player was Butks 💀
@@Liftupfashion you can make excuses for him all you want..I’m not hating. I actually like randle ….you wanted to know why people thinks he sucks and I gave you the consensus ..if he can maintain his regular season efficiency during the playoffs people will view him in a better light simple
@@Liftupfashion and as a playoff performer he’s shooting sub 40% fg doesn’t matter if it’s every game or not it’s your average 16 points on 15 shots is not good
Totally agree plus gives knicks a toughness thay lack big time without him.
I havent heard snyone mention it but i think they can make their offense better and give og more responsibility without giving up big depth if they trade julius randle and some pieces to the jazz for lauri markinen
They can literally keep the same team and pick up a somewhat good small forward and be good
My guy just said Bridges is as good as Randle... Come on man what are we doing here...
Randle’s high is higher than Mikal’s but Randle’s low is lower than Mikal’s. They need consistency
Mikal is NOT a same high level player as randle. He is a good piece kinda like a over glorified role player. But alittle better at times. Donavan is the player this knicks team needs to pair next to randle an brunson. Knicks would be a power house.
randle is absolutely f*cking trash y’all need to get rid of him he’s not any where NEAR a championship platter
How many All-Star bridges made how many all NBA team did he make? People are so agenda driven that they are blinded. Just share nonsense.Smh
People hate on Randle but he’s solid.
Nobody is paying 4 frp for bridges. He’s a complimentary 3rd option on a good team at best. If he was a 1st or 2nd option, that teams best outlook is lottery.
Knicks content is the best content👏
irrelevant franchise for 50 years haha nobody cares but new yorkers
His knicks takes are horrible.
@@BigOleMoolah I’m from the Caribbean 🫢
@@wilmaso don’t watch or comment on it. Have a good one.
Julius was on path to be ALL NBA this season. Upgrade? And nobody can even play in the post like Randle in this style of NBA... i guess you need to fill space...
Run it back and sign og money talks and depth and get better around the margins see if randle can actually not fall off during the playoffs only trade that should be considered is for another all nba player to swap with randle who fits better around Brunson but I don’t see it
There is literally no viable trade for Randle that makes the Knicks better. They would have to get lucky and have the player they trade for blossom like Randle and Brunson did.
As a knicks fan, I think we should run it back because I think if this team was fully healthy, we beat boston.
Stop lying New York healthy ain't beating Milwaukee Miami Philly or Boston healthy. New York was only in that position this season is because of injuries to the elite teams
@@theetruth8626 U must not watch the games bro
That doesn’t mean next season will be the same
@@jacobartis9853 no u must not watch the games bro. New York became 2nd seed because of Giannis injury? That's facts New York moved up in the rankings because of Embiid injury. That's facts go look at the standings. The same with Jimmy injuries. Jimmy spoke the truth if he was playing New York would been at home. What game is u watching
@@jayramirez9445 if injuries don't take a toll on elite teams. Everyone will see the truth of where teams truly rank at.
Almost 25 years in the making since the last time the Knicks were finals contenders, what a wonderful feeling that this dicussion is even had.
They would be better of trading with the jazz for lauri. It would probabilly need randle and draft compesantion
That would be a nice trade
your videos have been awesome latley
Lauri would be perfect. Randle and some picks to the jazz
Interesting
Jazz are not trading Lauri for Randle.
If possible they can keep both OG and iHart then go for a second scoring PG via draft or free agency (DeMar DeRozan or Tyus Jones) could be the game plan. I can see them possibly doing a trade at the deadline of the new season, but that's all in the air for now.
Of course the "give us Mikal Bridges for our leftover scraps" trade proposals... because the Nets aren't allowed to have players... smh....
The nets declined 5 firsts for bridges. Get a grip.
As a pacers fan I feel this. I remember the Lakers trying to trade for someone from the pacers and everyone was basically like the pacers should just give the Lakers their guy
@@isaiahwilliams2332 eternal future lakers Buddy Hield and Miles Turner
Lakers fans are a different breed. Nets really messed up not taking that Rockets offer though
@@Nick-zl5xf yup there it is . They wanted Turner for salary dump contacts like what .
Bridges wants to plan with his Nova brothers. All he needs to do is state that he will not sign an extension and wants to test free agency in two years. His trade value will drop for all teams. Bojan Bogdanović + two 1st rounders for Mikal Bridges
So let me get this. Trade Randle (an all-star and all nba player) and picks, for a very good role player?
Dude I love the phrase "Villanova Infinity Gauntlet"
As a Knicks Fan I personally would be interested in a possible Jimmy Butler signing in one of the upcoming off seasons
Thank goodness you're not in charge. Bridges is definitely not better than Randle as well as Bridges is highly overrated. The playoffs showed how important Randle is to the team.
100% agreed. He's a Nets fan, so it doesn't surprise me, but Bridges' value is heavily inflated from the "great player on a bad team" phenomena. Randle is a guy who can elevate a bad roster to being decent, Bridges cannot remotely do that. Randle can be a #2 on a championship squad, Bridges cannot.
As a Mavs fan, I want to see Brunson do well. I like the Bridges trade. Brunson - DiVencenzo - Bridges - OG - Hartenstein with Josh Hart, Bogdan, & Mitchell Robinson off the bench. Thats a strong playoff 8
Honestly kinda surprised Lauri wasn’t mentioned when talking about replacing Randle. Sounds like Utah is willing to trade him for the right price and a 3 team deal could land them a ton of picks
At the six minute mark of this video when he suggests that the Knicks next move is to trade Julius Randle I immediately hit pause, came to the comment section to tell everybody watching that this guy does not know ball and even if he does, he doesn’t know this Knicks team. The Knicks are never trading Julius Randle.😂😂😂
I love how every one of these has Knicks trading a 3 time all star for a fucking role player. and you want picks with that too? i hate this agenda of bridges being some final piece just cause he went to nova. Randle is the better player i dont care if Bridges came out of the same womb as Brunson the Knicks shouldnt do that deal
I think Donovan and Brunson would work, like you said, Brunson needs another creator on the team, you just cant give all that responsability to Brunson. Just see Kyrie and Luka, or Tatum and Brown. People were saying the same thing about those players and see where they are now. The only downside could be on the defensive end, but Im sure Mitchell would improve defensively on the Knicks
I think Knicks should run it back for now. Let’s see what the trio of og, Randle, and Brunson can do. If it’s shit come December January then we can look for a trade
does brooklyn think mikal bridges is jesus christ himself or something
I feel like the Knicks are going to have more trouble this offseason than people realize. The odds the Knicks are able to keep both OG and Hartenstein are very low. There’s a lot of teams who will want a player like Hartenstein and Claxton is the only other guy like him in free agency for now. Both bigs will likely get contracts around $15-20 million. Losing Hartenstein will be a bigger issue than people realize, especially with Mitchell Robinson’s spotty health record recently. Keeping Precious should also be a high priority and he’ll also be getting a pay raise albeit much smaller.
The other issue is trading for Mikal Bridges. He really is the perfect fit for the Knicks to replace Bojan and Randle. Both will have to go by 2025. One has to go for cap space after Brunson’s extension, the other for a fit upgrade. The reality is that if Mikal becomes available, no team can beat Houston in a 2 team trade. The Knicks have to get multiple teams. Luckily, they can offer both Bojan and Randle to 1-2 other teams and have both return packages + some of their own picks go to Brooklyn. That’s really their best shot though. At the end of the day, if Brooklyn as a rebuilding team would much rather 4 of their own picks than 6 picks from contending teams.
As a Nets fan I can admit Bridges would be perfect on the Knicks for all the reasons mentioned. Don’t know what it would take for the Nets to let him go though.
Any real fan is gonna say run it back no need to trade anyone but bench players
If the Knicks decide to trade Randle (an all nba level player mind you) and 1st round picks for Mikal Bridges and don't win the chip that year or at least make the Finals, I want the whole front office fired.
Y'all delusional as hell Brooklyn not trading Mikal Bridges for no draft picks
Don't worry.. That's not happening. They will only trade Randle and picks for someone like Giannis or KD.
@@EDTheOneable Milwaukee and Phoenix don't want no Randle and draft picks. Y'all is too delusional and desperate
@@EDTheOneable u clowns be dissing Randle then think u can deal him for a superstar. How funny is that
@@theetruth8626 what are you babbling about? First of all Randle is an All NBA player who is on a great contract and second the Knicks have tons of draft picks they can give up. Also let's remember when you trade a superstar it's going to have to be to a place that they will want to be at. I don't think any of these will happen this year but it's definitely not out of the question by this time next year. Let's be real bro
The Randle criticism is only still being heard cause he got hurt before the Knicks made the playoffs. In general the media chatter is reactionary and late to meet the actual trends. Oddly enough them same folks would have been down talking the Knicks if they lost in the second round fully healthy instead of talking about their potential.
Like he was gettin doubled every play his 1st two years n was puttin up numbers still now we got a team where u can’t double him fans wanna trade him the man is gone to cook wit this squad like the man was hurt it’s not like he always hurt
Bridges
BI
Grant
Those are the 3 guys they should target if they want to move on from Randle don’t think another guard option would work.
Tucker with a Knicks video? Hell must be awfully cold right now 😂
In what universe is Mikal as good as Randle??? Randle has been an All Star 3 of the last 4 years, averaging 25/10/5. There are only 3 other guys in the league that can say that. Mikal took his team all the way to…oh yeah NOWHERE! They couldn’t even make the play-in in an injury riddled, terrible eastern conference. Make it make sense! 🤦🏽♂️
If the nets wouldn’t even accept their own picks back for mikal, then I don’t think there’s anything they can trade for him 😭
I think the pacers should go for mikal bridges and undermine the knicks. I don’t know which of the young guys they’d give up maybe neismith and some picks or throw in a Doug McDermott for cap room to resign Siakem. However it would shake out that’s a deal I’d be looking to do. He fits their play style, adds essential defense, has on ball scoring capabilities to throw in the mix and fits their timeline exceptionally well. It really comes down to getting siakem back under contract and which of the young guys is expendable
what about towns? hes been linked to NY plenty in the past and is currently (and forever) being discussed as a trade candidate. Randolph + a few firsts for Towns
Lol that'd be an L for the Wolves, Town's spacing is more valuable.
@@nicholasrose4448 Obviously Towns is better than Randall and a few late 1sts but the only real L in this situation is Towns contract. we cant pay that man 60million dollars
@@grandmabetty7173 That's true, I would say he has deficiencies but the Knicks might be one of the few teams who can cover... His contract is monstrous. 60k plus up to 28 is insane.
Okay this may be crazy but, if this finals goes the way that we all kind of think and Boston just ends up getting owned and Tatum becomes unplayable, is there a world where someone like him or Jaylen Brown are available? Bc I LOVE the fit of either of those guys and if boston commits to a full rebuild, which again I expect when they lose to dallas, then they'd likely want to get back as many picks as they can. Just saying it's an overlooked option that most of Boston's roster is gonna probably be available this year or at the deadline.
We need to go after Mickel Bridges. Donavan Mitchell. Brendon Ingram. KD. The Greek Freak.
OG is great but I will say hes often injured, that does worry me, I hope we can run it back, this team deserves another chance, we need some more depth on the bench, and no way Im trading Randle and picks for bridges, trading the same production and picks, no thanks.
Julius to Houston. He’s from Dallas but it’s still Texas. It’s gonna take like a 3-4 team trade to get Mikal. We get Houston to give BK their picks back, add a few picks and an expiring contract.
Bring everyone back, be aggressive to make a even better contender for the summer 😎
Randle for Mikal is not happening. Randle is the superior player on his own and his chemistry with Brunson is fantastic. Hell, the Brunson/Randle/OG trio had a damn +/- of +12 together in the games they played. I can see the Knicks adding Mikal with his connections and good contract, but it'd be draft pick centric (think Bogdanovic, McBride, and 3 firsts). Heck, with Spida looking like he's staying in Cleveland, this is the time for the Nets to accumulate draft capital and accept a rebuild.
I'm a huge knicks fan I'm super excited for our future if we somehow get mikal bridges book us to the finals !!!
As long you got Julius Randle that’s not happening. He plays subpar in playoff
I see him asking for a lot ending up in Philly then they drop a bunch of picks for bridges. If they can keep OG trade Randle for Bridges and move OG to PF
Stop lying to yourself
The most difficult transition for any team to make is going from very good to legit title contender. Overall I'd say the Knicks are in a tricky spot. The roster is going to stupid expensive and even fully healthy they are a notch below true contender. They need an all NBA caliber player to complete their team and there doesn't appear to be one available. If the Knicks want to be more than a feel good story Leon Rose needs to get extremely aggressive in order to pry another star loose. Being the savior that brought the Knicks a title should be a very enticing hook to do just that.
I would rather we keep our core rather than give up too much for a superstar that doesn't fit the mold of this team's defensive culture. I say draft smart and then see what trade deadline looks like. Also, if Thibs keeps running our guys to the floor, get a new coach - see if Mark Jackson is interested.
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Run the roster back
they need trade Mitch and keep IHART
Julius Randle has a lot to prove. And we're still skeptical about him after 5 years playing for the Knicks he's not prove anything yet in the playoffs
Knicks going all the way next year
Crazy talk
Mitchell isn’t going anywhere. Hartenstein looks like this year’s Mozgov. Someone is going to regret paying him.
🤣. He only plays like that for thibs
Man, I don't know why I saw Mikal Bridges face and thought Latrell Sprewell smh
The video is cute but the reason the knicks even made it as far as they did was because the east had a ton of injuries. Once the easts stars are back in alignment the knicks arent getting out of the second round.
Acting like the Knicks anit have injuries of their own, they could go toe to toe with anyone in the conference even with other teams being healthy.
@@shootersshoot6582 lol no, they can't even when fully healthy they aren't making it out of the second round. Book it for 2025.
Bro acting like the knicks weren't playing with 2 starters.
We need to run it back healthy
How much does 76ers have cap space? I see news how they are after PG, Jimmy, Onunoby, LaVine, James. I understand that they have space for ONE max contract, right?
Personally I like Randle because he is our only player on the Knicks down low who has a miss-match & requires double teaming like honestly Randle vs Siakam Randle wins that battle so let's just be patient for that disgruntled star to emerge..😊
good content!
give us a HEAT video next bruh. thanks buddy, Love from germany
I kind of miss when you implemented more Humor or more of yourself into your Videos. I understand maybe the recent topics dont lent themself to that sort of commentary but i enjoyed it lots when it was that way. Right Before the Playoffs if i recall correctly 😊 still, keep up the good work my man.
julius randle for bridges is actually interesing
They don'y need another guard on superstar contract. They need someone tu upgrade Randle's PF spot: Giannis, Zion. Bridges or Jerami Grant woud nice, but not enough to beat BOS powerhouse.
Nets would need like 5 knick firsts for Mikal 😂
If OG goes to Philly, it feels like they're just gonna replace the Tobias contract and he may not work out there
Lol at the thumbnail 😂
The Nets is not trading Bridges especially in the division and for Randle is a big L for them in my opinion 😂😂😂
The Knicks don’t need bridges or if we get him don’t give up anyone that’s a starter or brogdon
lost me when u suggest giving up Randle for bridges; Thats just insane.... Randle is hands down a MUCH better player than Mikal, AND Randle fits perfectly with Brunson with the way he draws doubles. Bogan + Mitch + a bunch of picks for Dejounte or Mikal is the trade to try and make imo.
I know he isnt talking about these teams but what do you guys think Kat for trae straight up
Gives the wolves the pg and play make to better optimize rudy they have the defensive to protect trae
Hawk fresh looking teams that id say is better then what they currently have
Why would the hawks do that?
@@justinbrown2199 can they get a better player then kat? also kat is really young
@@xIpyschoIx they can get 2 or 3 first round picks and role players
@@justinbrown2199 other than the spurs who giving that up ?
@@xIpyschoIx pelicans with Ingram, Miami, Chicago, Orlando, possibly Utah.
The Nets will not do any trades with the Knicks. Bridges to the Knicks is fantasy.
Trade for Lillard and have him play off ball. It gives Brunson way more help handling the ball, gets Divincenzo in the 6th man role and spreads them out. If they can get him and resign Anounoby and Hartenstein, trade Robinson and Randle. I think thats another way to go. Lillard has a couple seasons of good ball left and his shooting range starts at half court.
If Randle isn’t traded by the next trade deadline I’d be shocked
for who tho?
@@fabo0913 Wrong question. The real question is: to who? NOBODY wants Randle. The Knicks would have to attach picks for anyone to even take his contract. He doesn't make good teams better and he's not a mentor/culture changer for a bottom feeding team. He's an empty calories inefficient turnover box statpadder who doesn't play defense, pouts when he doesn't get his numbers, and has temper tantrums.
he only makes 25 mil a year... KAT makes almost double... think about that lol. @fabo
@@Michael_Page I don’t love Randle by any stretch but to act like he has no use is kinda silly. If I’m the Knicks I rather see Brunson possessions not Randle post ups. But acting like he has no use is dumb
@@maxgarrett8135 Didn't say he didn't have any use, I said nobody wants him. Two very different things. One is a matter of opinion, the other is a fact. It is our opinion as Knicks fans that he is useful, but it is a fact that nobody else in the league wants him.
We could bring Drummond and Derozan to beef up the bench.
What about trading for demar derozan?
Trading a 3 time allstar and picks for Mikal Bridges. Make it make sense.
Randle is overrated and Mikal proved he can help a team reach the finals
You don't know ball
@@ericsmusic5927 As a #3 option. Randle was able to elevate a truly awful Knicks team to playoff status as a #1 in 2021, and he's been a great #2 behind Brunson. If anything, Bridges is grossly overrated from being a good player on a bad team. He doesn't elevate the Nets as a #1 to anything other than the bottom and he's barely a #2 on a playoff team.
@@ericsmusic5927 you clearly don’t know ball. Did you watch Mikal play this year? Randle was balling before the injury and we looked like the best team in the league. Why fuck that up for a hypothetical? If we want Mikal, trade Bogi, Duece and picks. You only trade Randle if you are getting a all-star caliber player in return.
@@MrRapmaster19 preach
I think it’s more likely that Hartenstein stays in NY than Claxton staying in Brooklyn. When he dips for greener pastures we can talk about Deuce/Mitch and picks for Mikal 😂
Idk man I think they should keep Randle, trade Mitch, Bojan and picks for a piece or two and then they’re straight. The chemistry will only get better, Deuce McBride will get better and continuity is key
I would bring og back if you can and trade Randle for Lauri markeen or miles bridges that would be scary
Here what will actually happen: OG walks because the Knicks were painfully average without him, no one wants the Knicks picks because they famously want teams to bend over backwards for them, the Nets refuse to trade with the Knicks because they don’t want to see the other NY team be good, and no one wants Randle because he’s severely overrated. Brunson regresses to the mean and the Knicks are a play in team.
If I'm the Knicks I know people are gonna be mad but and I'm a fan if his but you trade Julius Randle a 1st and 2nd round picks to bring in Kevin Durant he will be a great number 2 he is an upgrade on offense he is goo's with the mid-range and 3 point shot. He will take pressure of the Villanova 3 and he will have even more to prove since Curry got his 4th ring and Kyrie Irving may get his 2nd 🏆 🏆
I want them to bring back OG, if they can’t resign I hart go get nikola vuc and trade for Jordan clarkson. Please do not trade Randle based on fit. When Randle and Brunson played together they played great. Only way Randle gets moved is for a star who’s better then him
RUN IT BACK !