@@TheBasketballBulletin realistically, I could see them taking this because it seems like there’s a lot of urgency to get a deal done. Smart and BC are both on good contracts to trade in the future and Kennard is expiring. At least this would give them some “assets” back
Riley says he don’t want banes . Banes will be paid $44.8 million in season 28/29 which is insanity. Banes contract is similar to Zach lavine . No teams want 3rd option players making over $44 million
But by the 28/29 season, team salary cap will have risen substantially. A 44m contract during those years is going to look like what a current 30-35m contract is currently. During that time, a super max is going to be like in the 70+m range 😂 Wemby is probably going to make like 75m/a year during his prime years.
@@berserkmonk5331it takes them out of free agency contention. If they let jimmy walk they’ll be 47m under the tax, 15m mid level and a biannual exception too
Long time bulls fan here. Oh, Jimmy. I've watched a lot of basketball podcast lately, so this may not be from here, but somebody was just talking about how he has made himself into such a critical NBA player. So much of his game is his willpower. And, on top of it, he has equaled his high level play with a high level personality. I don't think we saw that coming, either. The griz would be the best theater. That team is Scrappy weather they have all their starters or they are all injured. They fight and are ready for every grudge. That's a fit. Plus, swapping him with smart is a wash when it comes to availability. :-)
For Jimmy its a perfect location cause he fits perfectly around their guys, it is also one of the only trades possible that doesn't break the bank for Memphis cause they can trade Smart/Kennard/Clarke who are not in their core. But Miami would need to take that deal which doesn't seems logical for them with Clarke and Smart's deals not expiring. Maybe Memphis is willing to overpay Jimmy because a Ja/Bane/Jimmy/JJJ/Edey starting five would be very deadly
very deadly hahahaha no tf it would not and it would only be the starting lineup for prolly 20 games a yr on top of that. The deadly horrible shooting 35-38yr old jimmy butler hahahaha DEADLY
@@ElizabethAllan-is1ur Yeah I mean Memphis has to believe that Jimmy is good and worth it for the playoffs. I wouldn't do it. But they are the best fit for Jimmy
I don’t know. This could be a Beal kinda thing. With that contract, 35 years old, oft injured. I just don’t see the value. It cost too much for a short term prayer. I wouldn’t move for him but who knows. It gets complicated.
@@tyresejones3535 No TF it isnt. FOr a half yr rental? Of an injury prone, already barely playing, missing the playoffs on top of that, been declining since January and has been non existent on defense player hahaha. Hes a half yr rental unless you are making it MASSIVELY worse here and signing him in the summer, you are going to sign him to a 3 yr deal into his age 38 season at $40M a yr minimum and thats him losing some leverage and MEM getting him to choose them still when not paying what he wants. AN he has proven at every single turn the 2nd the team does anything his diva ass doesnt like he goes into nuke mode and blows it all up and makes demands and quits on the current team and tries to wreck the remaining team for as long as he is there. LOL I hope someone currently in the top 2-5 of the west trades for him to strengthen the strangle hold OKC has and will have for the next 5 years on the west. The way keeping him on a new 3 yr deal into age 38 will wreck a team and wreck their cap and put them in apron hell and into punitive restrictions of the CBA hahaha I HOPE THEY DO IT
@@ElizabethAllan-is1ur Brandon Clarke and kennard are non factors for this grizzlies team so it would basically he swapping Marcus smart for jimmy butler which is a massive upgrade for the grizzlies. The grizzlies still keep the majority of their depth aka a home run move for them. The trade will get done soon
clogged paint with Jackson and the rookie not spacing ,banes your best shooter… ja doesn’t shoot 3s like that and neither does jimmy . That is a nightmare waiting to happen come playoffs
@terrencesimpkins734 while that maybe true we have to give him is flowers especially for that 2022/2023 playoffs run it was 1 of the best performance in NBA history
Smart, VWilliams, Kennard/Clarke, that gives Griz Jimmy, plus it opens up for GG to return, Laravia to be himself, and gives Miami decent role players that fit, or flipable
Spotrac shows they can easily do the deal without Bane. Would be focused around smart, Clarke and kennard. They can add in some young players for value. But Bane isn’t required.
@@Average_DadxMiami would value the empty cap space more than young players. Miami’s youth farm is overloaded right now. They don’t have enough roster spots as is
It's Sunday here In Aus... I'm going to wake up tomorrow morning and see the trade for Butler LOL and while I'm Laker fan ... Hopefully trade for Kessler too LOL. HOpe Butler goes to MEM
grizzlies would never trade bane for butler. The rumored package is Smart, BC, Konchar, and maybe draft capitol. Miami is apparently very interested in smart and bc and sees them as win now players for a playoff run
Reports are Nets wants two 1sts for Cam Johnson. Are you sure that's the guy MEM wants to unload the assets for? How much better does Cam Johnson make the MEM team?
For Memphis, wouldn't it be better to try Clark/Kennard, and swap Smart with Brown in Toronto to take back Butler? You can throw in a 1st to Heat and a couple 2nds to Toronto. I'm not sure Miami can get much more than $32.25m in expiring and a 1st for Jimmy right now. If Jimmy doesn't sign his PO, that's a ton of money to give to JJJ on an Cap Extension, or just save it for a normal extension when you don't resign Jimmy after next season.
@ Butler doesn’t play either. Any small forward worth half the money would be better.. he is almost 49 why not just get Carmelo and JR Smith.. smh stop talking
@@budstopseasyroadspence bro wanna add someone 10 years older to an already tight group of young guys.. that’s ridiculous. U wouldn’t suggest that nonsense for Okc last year. I’m not even gonna argue about contending. They waste the next 5 years if the make this move . U want Ja prime to be wasted on Jimmy retirement
@@iguesss Ja "prime" isn't gonna get you anywhere first of all. Second of all, he'll still have his prime, just alongside Jimmy who he will never be better than. Memphis will never sniff a finals with what they currently have. Jimmy hard carried a horrible franchise to TWO finals. Jimmy makes them instantly relevant. If you would rather be mid and watch the finals of two other teams then that's up to you 😂
heat isnt crazy enough to trade butler for bayne.. they already have shooting guards and he is younger noooo way, even whats the grizz gonna get out of this a older version of bane nah
Lmao grizzlies would be so clogged in the paint with this move . Ja and jimmy aint shooting 3s like that . Jackson and the rookie are already in the paint and don’t space the floor . And brooks ain’t shooting nada . Bane is your best 3 point shooter.. I’d go for cam he’s taller too just not healthy
Starting lineup Edey Jaren Jackson jr Jimmy Butler Desmond Bane Ja Morant Defense Steals Post play Free throwss Rebounds Experience Toughness Matchup better vs Top Western teams Pippen jr , Aldama, GG Jackson, huff, Laravia, Wells, and V.Will Off the Bench. Please trade for my boy Jimmy Smart Clarke Konchar Kennard Picks
Grizz fan here. We'd rather have cam Johnson. But i think we'd be willing to trade kennard, konchar, smart and multiple picks for either option at this point.
LOL injured, old ass, DECLINGING SINCE LAST JANUARY, BAD DEFENDING ALL SEASON, Jimmy Butler does not put the grizzlies in OKCs tier LMAO. ANd what he would do for the next 3 years to their Salaries and the CBA punitive restrictions, AND LOSING BANE hhahaha oh my god OKC crushes the hell out of that shit and it makes sure the Grizz never get better than this second now and OKC just widens the gap massively across the next decade without any competition from MEM!
Desmond Bane? He's a good player, but the Heat don't need another shooting guard. They are already stacked at that position with Herro, Rozier, and Duncan Robinson.
Grizz fan here - There’s no way they’d deal Bane in a Butler trade. However, I could see them trading Smart, Clarke, and Kennard with a 1st for him
Solid adjustment, wonder if the first is enough to get the Heat to take back non-expiring money
That works too. But if Miami won't do that, trade Bane if you actually care about winning. He will never be anywhere remotely close to Butler.
No you couldn't why the fuck wou miami agree to that bum package
He better than butler.
@@TheBasketballBulletin realistically, I could see them taking this because it seems like there’s a lot of urgency to get a deal done. Smart and BC are both on good contracts to trade in the future and Kennard is expiring. At least this would give them some “assets” back
Love this for the grizzlies. Trade smart ,kennard,Clarke & koncher for jimmy ,love & Richardson.
Riley says he don’t want banes . Banes will be paid $44.8 million in season 28/29 which is insanity. Banes contract is similar to Zach lavine . No teams want 3rd option players making over $44 million
But by the 28/29 season, team salary cap will have risen substantially. A 44m contract during those years is going to look like what a current 30-35m contract is currently.
During that time, a super max is going to be like in the 70+m range 😂
Wemby is probably going to make like 75m/a year during his prime years.
@@berserkmonk5331but for a third Option is still too much money.
Jimmy is a third option player
@@berserkmonk5331it takes them out of free agency contention. If they let jimmy walk they’ll be 47m under the tax, 15m mid level and a biannual exception too
@@terrencesimpkins734correct at this time
Miami heat isn’t getting much for an aging Jimmy.
Long time bulls fan here.
Oh, Jimmy.
I've watched a lot of basketball podcast lately, so this may not be from here, but somebody was just talking about how he has made himself into such a critical NBA player. So much of his game is his willpower.
And, on top of it, he has equaled his high level play with a high level personality. I don't think we saw that coming, either.
The griz would be the best theater. That team is Scrappy weather they have all their starters or they are all injured. They fight and are ready for every grudge.
That's a fit. Plus, swapping him with smart is a wash when it comes to availability. :-)
PG Morant
SG Bane
SF Butler
PF Jackson Jr
C Edey
Best starting five in the NBA
Is fire but stop
For Jimmy its a perfect location cause he fits perfectly around their guys, it is also one of the only trades possible that doesn't break the bank for Memphis cause they can trade Smart/Kennard/Clarke who are not in their core. But Miami would need to take that deal which doesn't seems logical for them with Clarke and Smart's deals not expiring. Maybe Memphis is willing to overpay Jimmy because a Ja/Bane/Jimmy/JJJ/Edey starting five would be very deadly
very deadly hahahaha no tf it would not and it would only be the starting lineup for prolly 20 games a yr on top of that. The deadly horrible shooting 35-38yr old jimmy butler hahahaha DEADLY
@@ElizabethAllan-is1ur Yeah I mean Memphis has to believe that Jimmy is good and worth it for the playoffs. I wouldn't do it. But they are the best fit for Jimmy
I don’t know. This could be a Beal kinda thing. With that contract, 35 years old, oft injured. I just don’t see the value. It cost too much for a short term prayer. I wouldn’t move for him but who knows. It gets complicated.
It doesn’t cost much just kennard Clarke and smart. That’s a home run trade for Memphis
@@tyresejones3535 No TF it isnt. FOr a half yr rental? Of an injury prone, already barely playing, missing the playoffs on top of that, been declining since January and has been non existent on defense player hahaha. Hes a half yr rental unless you are making it MASSIVELY worse here and signing him in the summer, you are going to sign him to a 3 yr deal into his age 38 season at $40M a yr minimum and thats him losing some leverage and MEM getting him to choose them still when not paying what he wants. AN he has proven at every single turn the 2nd the team does anything his diva ass doesnt like he goes into nuke mode and blows it all up and makes demands and quits on the current team and tries to wreck the remaining team for as long as he is there. LOL I hope someone currently in the top 2-5 of the west trades for him to strengthen the strangle hold OKC has and will have for the next 5 years on the west. The way keeping him on a new 3 yr deal into age 38 will wreck a team and wreck their cap and put them in apron hell and into punitive restrictions of the CBA hahaha I HOPE THEY DO IT
@@ElizabethAllan-is1ur Brandon Clarke and kennard are non factors for this grizzlies team so it would basically he swapping Marcus smart for jimmy butler which is a massive upgrade for the grizzlies. The grizzlies still keep the majority of their depth aka a home run move for them. The trade will get done soon
jimmy is much better than Beal, is cheaper, and is a proven playoff monster
jimmy also has a shorter contract
jimmy and ja are ticking time bomb
💯
clogged paint with Jackson and the rookie not spacing ,banes your best shooter… ja doesn’t shoot 3s like that and neither does jimmy . That is a nightmare waiting to happen come playoffs
Bane for Butler is such an easy choice
Take Rozier too for who?
Grizzlies will never trade Bane for Butler
@@DorianLeon-sn4xv
Easy trade lol. Butler is generational. Bane is a nobody.
Nothing generational about butler
@terrencesimpkins734 while that maybe true we have to give him is flowers especially for that 2022/2023 playoffs run it was 1 of the best performance in NBA history
Smart, VWilliams, Kennard/Clarke, that gives Griz Jimmy, plus it opens up for GG to return, Laravia to be himself, and gives Miami decent role players that fit, or flipable
No thanks. Just checked all of their contracts.my personal opinion, obv. I’m not in the front office
we need Clarke tho. Edey Clarke and Huff are our bigs. Clarke is starts half the time and contributes.
Spotrac shows they can easily do the deal without Bane. Would be focused around smart, Clarke and kennard. They can add in some young players for value. But Bane isn’t required.
@@Average_Dadx question is would
Miami?
With a first and some seconds
@@TheBasketballBulletin that’s where some of their young talent and/or picks would come in. Jaylen wells is a great example on a second round deal.
@@Average_DadxMiami would value the empty cap space more than young players. Miami’s youth farm is overloaded right now. They don’t have enough roster spots as is
@ yeah I’m sure they can figure out what they want. Players can easily be routed elsewhere. My point was mainly that Bane didn’t need to be included.
This would be a great trade for the Grizz. Have to win this year or next though under the current CBA or they'll be in trouble.
Jimmy will be pissed! Lol Pat will be wrong for that. 🤣
Might get that chip
It's Sunday here In Aus... I'm going to wake up tomorrow morning and see the trade for Butler LOL and while I'm Laker fan ... Hopefully trade for Kessler too LOL.
HOpe Butler goes to MEM
Ja should NOT have to choose between Butler or Bane. So many better fits on the wing
And then how much more do Jimmy have left in the tank and for how long
This would be great
Memphis will not give up Bane, it’s absurd to suggest they woulf
This would be scary
😂😂😂
Too big a risk for Jimmy. Bane is a piece of their core and he’s got 10 years of utility left
If Ja is healthy, you go all in now. If you're going to continue to allow Ja to be reckless and get hurt, don't do the trade.
grizzlies would never trade bane for butler. The rumored package is Smart, BC, Konchar, and maybe draft capitol. Miami is apparently very interested in smart and bc and sees them as win now players for a playoff run
Why nobody talk about Cam Thomas instead
Reports are Nets wants two 1sts for Cam Johnson. Are you sure that's the guy MEM wants to unload the assets for? How much better does Cam Johnson make the MEM team?
i think memphis can do it with smart, kennard and clarke i think they 7 million trade exception to spare
For Memphis, wouldn't it be better to try Clark/Kennard, and swap Smart with Brown in Toronto to take back Butler? You can throw in a 1st to Heat and a couple 2nds to Toronto. I'm not sure Miami can get much more than $32.25m in expiring and a 1st for Jimmy right now. If Jimmy doesn't sign his PO, that's a ton of money to give to JJJ on an Cap Extension, or just save it for a normal extension when you don't resign Jimmy after next season.
Who cares about timeline? Jimmy is fricken amazing!!! Whatever it takes to get a superstar.
Jimmy to Indiana would be great
Grizzles need to take him please
Burke Clarke 2nds to nets
Bogdonovic, smart kennard 1st to mia
Butler to griz
I would trade Jimmy Buckets to Wizards for Kuzma and Malcolm B
This is just Lakers Nation in disguise 😂
@@luffy.condoriano didn’t talk about the Lakers at all…
We really debating baby T-Rex or Jimmy? ... Jimmy for at least this season and the next because you know he's not dropping that player option.
Memphis that'll be a good trade but the problem is Still Remains you train for a 35-year-old that wants a big extension damn smh
you can keep them all. the heat want pics
Don't trade BC! 🙏
It’s gonna be Jimmy Butler for KD
None of this matters if Jimmy is hurt during the playoffs. Very likely.
Just ask AI on which players you can package for JB😅😅😅
Marcus Smart, Santi Aldama, 2 1sts or nothing
Too injury prone. Memphis don’t need to be 50 million dollar desperate either. Probably 35
Too injury prone wtf lol that's not true at all 😂
I want to eliminate the competition for my team the clippers and say the jimmy would be perfect for the clippers
For kawhi
You just said Jimmy denied the trade n didn’t want to go there
interesting...
I know, right?
Trade Marcus Smart for Kuzma or Keldon Johnson. John Collins package for Konchar?
Burks smart Clarke and 1st or 2nds to nets
simmons kennard and 1st or 2nds to mia
Griz get butler
They don’t wanna ruin their team like that
Butler makes them real contenders. They aren't real contenders rn. Bane is garbage, Morant doesn't play, and that's all they got.
@@budstopseasyroadspence jimmy miss just as many games as ja he 35
@ Butler doesn’t play either. Any small forward worth half the money would be better.. he is almost 49 why not just get Carmelo and JR Smith.. smh stop talking
@@budstopseasyroadspence bro wanna add someone 10 years older to an already tight group of young guys.. that’s ridiculous. U wouldn’t suggest that nonsense for Okc last year. I’m not even gonna argue about contending. They waste the next 5 years if the make this move . U want Ja prime to be wasted on Jimmy retirement
@@iguesss
Ja "prime" isn't gonna get you anywhere first of all. Second of all, he'll still have his prime, just alongside Jimmy who he will never be better than. Memphis will never sniff a finals with what they currently have. Jimmy hard carried a horrible franchise to TWO finals. Jimmy makes them instantly relevant. If you would rather be mid and watch the finals of two other teams then that's up to you 😂
Im a big lakers fan from Tennessee but I do go for Memphis because it’s the home team..that would bring a lot of excitement to Memphis
Jimmy Butler quit on this teammates unacceptable
What about Murray in tyus trade pelicans for Lakers y'all not taking bout that
Jimmy will need a red wig on the basketball to play well though!
What's Baine doing? Nothing. Trade him for JB. Smart and Clarke.
Bane staying 🎉🎉 no Mr butler
We Would Never Trade Bane For Butler NEVER❗️💯
Cam Johnson misses way to much time at his young age.
He’s a unrestricted free agent so if don’t get a max he’s gone
heat isnt crazy enough to trade butler for bayne.. they already have shooting guards and he is younger noooo way, even whats the grizz gonna get out of this a older version of bane nah
They’ve already been robbed blind by and injury prone wing (chandler parsons) lol …. but if they can get off Marcus in the process it’ll make sense.
Grindhouse 2.0
Lmao grizzlies would be so clogged in the paint with this move . Ja and jimmy aint shooting 3s like that . Jackson and the rookie are already in the paint and don’t space the floor . And brooks ain’t shooting nada . Bane is your best 3 point shooter.. I’d go for cam he’s taller too just not healthy
Starting lineup
Edey
Jaren Jackson jr
Jimmy Butler
Desmond Bane
Ja Morant
Defense
Steals
Post play
Free throwss
Rebounds
Experience
Toughness
Matchup better vs Top Western teams
Pippen jr , Aldama, GG Jackson, huff, Laravia, Wells, and V.Will
Off the Bench.
Please trade for my boy Jimmy
Smart
Clarke
Konchar
Kennard
Picks
And Miami get 30 Mil off the Books. I could see them keeping and using Clarke. Maybe Konchar too
I’ve been saying this! On this page! LOL! Riley is the type of GM that would legit send Jimmy to the dog streets of Memphis!
Grizz fan here. We'd rather have cam Johnson. But i think we'd be willing to trade kennard, konchar, smart and multiple picks for either option at this point.
Nobody want that contract . He’s not LeBron is Steph kawhi type
it will for sure be the suns. they are the most desperate team.
Bad trade for Memphis
Heat will be rubbish without Jimmy Bam Tyler not leaders grizzlies would be a great place for jimmy to go
LOL injured, old ass, DECLINGING SINCE LAST JANUARY, BAD DEFENDING ALL SEASON, Jimmy Butler does not put the grizzlies in OKCs tier LMAO. ANd what he would do for the next 3 years to their Salaries and the CBA punitive restrictions, AND LOSING BANE hhahaha oh my god OKC crushes the hell out of that shit and it makes sure the Grizz never get better than this second now and OKC just widens the gap massively across the next decade without any competition from MEM!
Butler is old and overrated he's no longer the playoff butler that he once was and the cost to get him is way to high for his age and health risk
Trading Bane for Butler is actual lunacy.
JA JIMMY JJ 😳 🔥🔥🔥
Come on NBA, let's get Jimmy to MILWAUKEE with Giannis and Dame. Otherwise Boston gonna cake walk through the east once again.
Miami will not send him to an East team!
@@kevinjohnson3521 I don't disagree with you. Wishing thinking. Would love to see Jimmy/Giannis/Dame challenge Boston.
@ what, we agree and no need to argue - lol… happy New Year!!
Cam Johnson with the Lakers
Desmond Bane? He's a good player, but the Heat don't need another shooting guard. They are already stacked at that position with Herro, Rozier, and Duncan Robinson.
Grizzlies will never do this for butler but cam Johnson seems more realistic Bane will stay in Memphis
I don’t see anything miami would want from Memphis other then Ja and JJJ and that ain’t happening
I’d get Kuzma before Jimmy Butler if im the Grizzlies he almost 36
Trade Bane for Ingram and get Keldon Johnson from the Spurs . Torrey Craig off the bench
when jimmy is enjoying himself on a basketball court hes a much better player than desmond bane, make the trade
Butler and Ja. 😂😂😂😂 Memphis is trash as it is
As your two best players and Jaren and Bane as your 3rd and 4th players puts you on the Celtics/Thunder level.
What's Baine doing? Nothing. Trade him for JB. Smart and Clarke.