It doesn't matter. She was a big part of a huge success for SM. It's okay for her to feel a certain way. They gave a big part of their lives to the company it's only natural to feel bad when they treat you like you're not 'family' after all those years
It feels so good to see her feel comfortable enough to make jokes like these. She really grew so well. I remember in the past she got so much hate for being "mean" that she was always trying to defend herself and diffuse jokes as misunderstandings and she was sensitive to her image. Now she is confident in herself, who she is, what she can do that she can even make a joke "you bought this building because of me" 🤣😍 I'm so proud of you Fany!
Totally agree with you. K-Pop stans nowadays put too much attention to things like this. I mean, it's actually a joke that she said "you bought this building because of me", well, frankly saying, she made a contribution here no matter when SM actually bought the building, but everyone be like "it's not Tiffany (SNSD) who bought it, it's blablabla" like heyyy chill, bro, you don't need to take the joke and comfy convos like this that way ahahahaha
u can just tell she's a veteran in this industry bc of her wit & energy!! she's confident and sure of herself i love that about her & other veteran* gg's esp snsd!! 💖
@@willa9880 she doesnt have any plastic surgery... there's a procedure that no need some needles..contouring is not a PS.. and of course signs of aging
@@willa9880you talking like it’s a new thing to kpop. 99% of idols nowadays have at least done one thing to enhance their face/appearance. Even if she has done it, I see nothing wrong since she may just wanted to look better on movie screen, which is a normal mindset of all actors and entertainers.
@@willa9880 well we all, her fans, had been through a lot of fight with people like you, I mean haters, spreading hate comments out of nowhere. So actually, your comment don't mean that much for us. We stan her for her bright personality, sorry not sorry gurl.
Glad they’re being nice and pleasant to her during this interview. They better stay that way from now on. We haven’t forgotten how the Korean media treated her after the Snapchat “scandal.”
I am also surprised to hear that. I think rehearsals are important to build stamina as well. And my first thought was...."Ahh... No wonder, the new gen of KPop idols seems so different." Well, perhaps not all of them, but still....
@@finnkyrie4569 I’m saying it’s ironic since she struggles with snsd’s most basic choreos i wonder if she criticizes hyoyeon for not improving her vocals despite being an idol for 16(almost 17) years
She's hilarious and gorgeous. And being a veteran looks damn good on her. Shes grown into an even more shining version of herself. Even as a SONE I am so proud of her.
2nd gen idols were really different... These days, everyone is saying "of course they don't sing live for $30! Of course you are half-heartedly doing a rehearsal!" ...and the performance, and the encore. That's the standard now because you weren't a fan when they were putting their all into every performance and probably getting paid less than these new idols.
@@moonlightchill4538 yeah and what's the reason for that? it's not the idols themselves, it's the music shows and the companies that demand them to lipsync
@@diana913 Sure, but it's also what the company broadcasting the show displays. Sometimes, the camera overlays the music over the performance, but listen to a fancam, you can hear them sing. So that's sort of true, but not exactly.
Totally understandable, given that Tiffany is no longer a direct employee of SM Entertainment. But, it would also be nice for SM to improve their process in accommodating their contract-based artists (e.g. Tiffany, Kyuhyun, Donghae) like requiring their management to liaise these earlier with SM for a smooth experience for both the former artists and their management when entering the building. P.S.: I am not familiar with the standard protocols. Still, it made me think of possible improvements since Kyuhun raised a similar concern too, as someone who’s also contracted for his group-related activities in SM Entertainment.
@@NewCaledonia1987 it's just too much of a petty move when the said artist is going to actually work for the company, recording and rehearsing for their album project and not just visiting and playing around and such. Should've given a temporary pass for the duration of the album production.
@@NewCaledonia1987 not if you are going to basically rehire that person to do special projects for your company temporarily. That's basically just greed, pettiness, and disrespect. If she's there to just visit and play around then yeah, she has to pay for parking, etc. But she's basically there as a senior employee, doing works again and making them more money. That's just lame tbh. No wonder LSM tried to takeover and one by one moved out of there.
Back then in SNSD high time, i became a Fanytastic after i watched her on that babysitting show, that Tiffany and this Tiffany are basically still the same, her true character, hardly contained honest to god straight forward Fany with no holds bared ❤ she's just so genuine you can't resist the charm it creates around her.
I think she's referring to how should a company treats their visitor, and no, not any visitor but someone who actually collaborates with the company. anyways.. the title itself is misleading.
Aside from that parking or coffee incident. Tiffany raises a valid point here. Kpop these days are all about visuals and dancing but where are the vocals? That's the real performance. SNSD and Red Velvet had such incredible vocal lines but these days the rapper line of both groups can do better than the main vocalists of new groups
the way y’all have turned into the stans that criticized snsd back in their prime also if you actually looked into 4th gen you’d see that there are many groups that put in the effort and are passionate about their job
You are damn right you are one of the foundations of that building you will not be called "Nations Girl Group" for nothing. Sad to say but I think the 20th SNSD anniversary will be as grand as their 15th anniversary as LSM is not in SME anymore it was only possible because LSM made it possible. I love Fany's energy, bluntness and killer smile. I remember when she was one of the mentors in GP999.
I've been a fan of Tiffany since 2011 and it's been 13 years now, so I naturally grew up with her. From "Fanytastic" to "YoungOne", literally. The thing I like about her is her cute, bright, and kind-hearted personality, she's very caring but at the same time she's very polite and always knows how to behave in different places / occasions. She has this smart girl vibes, sometimes elegant, classy, independent woman. She really was and is still my role model. & I never regret stanning her. It's nice to see her having fun and comfy convos like this, and even make jokes about it, so pleasant to know~ So Tiff, whichever path you choose, I'll always cheer for you , support you, and don't you worry I've got your back girl! Keep on shining ♡
Frankly it's business.. it's like Kyuhyun, Dong hae and Eunhyuk also said SM probably deleted their biometric access entry also when they left.. I am sure HYBE would do the same, as they also use facial recognition for access. I am not sure if it's Sunmi or BamBam once said they went back to JYP and also found they had to pay for parking now they are considered non employees.
She wasn't randomly showing up out of nowhere. She was there for SNSD rehearsal. It was a planned event. It's like at movie studio lots, they know you're coming in advance and already have your information at the security gate. SM is acting petty.
But so tru tho the rehearsal part, n maybe thats y 1st- 3rd gens all had passionate high energied vibez while they are performing cuz they are performing like their rents and bills are due and piling up 😂😂
Their rents and bills were due and piling up though, most k-pop artists are in debt to the company until their music becomes profitable? They have to pay for their training. They usually don’t make any money until years after their debut depending on how successful they are.🥲
the way y’all have turned into the stans that criticized snsd back in their prime also if you actually looked into 4th gen you’d see that there are many groups that put in the effort and are passionate about their job
@@nnnn-sc2imso we just copying and pasting this same paragraph under every comment agreeing with Tiffany huh. You go out your way to bash 2nd gen idols but will defend 3rd and 4th gen like they are paying you. Get well soon
the way y’all have turned into the stans that criticized snsd back in their prime also if you actually looked into 4th gen you’d see that there are many groups that put in the effort and are passionate about their job
Now I understand why Fany always backed up SM and LSM. The guy spoke up for her. Thank you LSM for giving us Fany. Really LSM is a bit weird but you can tell he always believed in the music and the artistry more than just the business and took an interest in his people. He left a very deep legacy, Kpop is the better and what it is now thanks to him. It must have been really sad and shocking for Fany to see how things had got. It's no wonder even LSM eventually got pushed out of his own company.
Has MBC turned into one of those trash sites where they create dramatic header for click bait and hate comments? She went there TO WORK on SNSD's 15th anniversary project which brings profit to SM too no?. She is not complaining about having to pay but more towards how those SM mgmt should at least have the curtesy to inform them to expect certain procedures when in the building vicinity for the first time since she hasn't been there after she left the agency.
The title of this video implies that SM treated Tiffany 'badly' and specifically says that she was "sad" about it, and MBC treats the two minute segment as the principle topic of the whole conversation. Tiffany is clearly amused at her own confusion in her change of status from being an employee to being just a visitor, because she defaulted to 13 years of habit, unconsciously expecting that her coffee and parking would be free. As the female host correctly noted, the reception staff were just following protocol, as they should, despite Tiffany's significant association with SM, and as the male host also correctly pointed out, having to pay for coffee and parking wasn't really a big deal, to which Tiffany laughingly agreed....which is the exchange that completely undermines the implications of the video title MBC has used. It's just unnecesary 'clickbait' titling. Just having Tiffany on is enough to generate views on its own, without stooping to manufacture a 'scandal'. I'll still give a like, because overall the interview/chat is fine, but I disapprove of how its been presented.
I think the title is quite fair. It doesn't exaggerate anything and says things as they are. It's obviously meant to grab the attention of people, but I don't think there's any clickbait at all. Facts: - Tiffany was treated very differently compared to before despite being a familiar person - Tiffany was forced to follow protocol as if she was completely unrelated - Tiffany was upset at that difference in treatment The title is entirely fair.
I get why groups nowadays are more relaxed in reharsals. I love SNSD, but their choreos use to be simple. Groups with hard and exausting choreos need to save some energy.
It's just like when you resigned from a company and they remove your ID and access, it's totally normal, you don't have a contract with the company anymore. They can't let anyone in even if they were famous.
The thing is Tiffany is still under contract based for SNSD, so IF SM has professional manner towards all of their contract, they will process to give access to all those who still even under contract based. Since it is mutual need, SM also need Tiffany to do rehearsal
@@observer5427What’s wrong with extending courtesy to a former executive or (artist) who help build your company to what is it now? In some countries that is not called professionalism, but ingratitude.
She wasn't randomly showing up out of nowhere. She was there for SNSD rehearsal. It was a planned event. It's like at movie studio lots, they know you're coming in advance and already have your information at the security gate. SM is acting petty.
She is no longer a part, yes! But she's coming for work. She's working for SM's group which is girls generation. There's a big difference if you are just coming there to visit randomly. Do you think the producers, choreographers, and other people working FOR SM but not an employee of SM pays parking fees? I doubt that. But with this logic, she is just making a joke, obviously.
Tiffany you are indeed my favorite. You are all rounder. Nobody can surpass you in your sensuality. I wonder why you haven’t launched your solo career seriously. Look at you. Your glow is real.
Jennie no longer with YG right, so it's understandable if she also got same treatment like Tiffany, but Nayeon still in jyp, so it's illogical is she also were treated like that
"Funny Members" but she said almost everyone except TaeTiSeo 😂 even TaeTiSeo are funny in their own way I mean Girls' Generation is indeed comedian lol
i mean i totally get it if it's business protocol but you would think they'd be grandfathered in... lmao... most companies do that after you reach a certain amount of years worked there (i.e. disney companies)
but she came there as a member of SNSD, not just a guest who wanted to visit to reminisce... try to imagine, you were already successful and carried the name of your school while you were studying there, then a few years later you were SPECIFICALLY INVITED by your school to carry the name of the school Again, that means, all accommodations related to your school (parking, food, activities, rooms, etc.) are accommodated by your school as long as you as SPECIAL GUEST in there... This is different from if you only visits as an ordinary guest/alumni who wants to see the school.
@Duma2011 You're right, we totally got your point. Even in our workplace, once you resigned, benefit and privileges are not the same anymore BUT on the others PERSPECTIVE (her pov) -she's was invited to make a REUNION of SNSD (Forever1)- comeback -she used to be an SNSD (who made SM successful in during times of Snsd) - just like schools - in some companies (even though business is business, if there's a collaboration of diff individuals/organization/former staff- they have these kind of Gesture from the main company) i dont know, but felt sad for what tifanny felt
She is no longer a part, yes! But she's coming for work. She's working for SM's group which is girls generation. There's a big difference if you are just coming there to visit randomly. Do you think the producers, choreographers, and other people working FOR SM but not an employee of SM pays parking fees? I doubt that. But with this logic, she is just making a joke, obviously.
I never knew there were so many people bending their backs to excuse or protect a company for such nonsense. First of all, nothing Tiffany said here is that serious, is a comedic talk show. You all are acting as if she accused SM for mistreatment on a press conference. She's just talking about parking and coffee, she's not demanding anything, she was not expecting preferential treatment, just common courtesy or some consideration from the company she went to work for. (considering she often buys coffee and pastries for everyone she visits, is understandable, that is something she might expect) Not the end of the world, she mentioned it for the laughs. The part about how different rehearsals are now, was just to point out how things have changed. Is true that rehearsal were different because they would practice to stand out even if they were further in the back, the average idol now has their own fancam following all their movements and facial expressions, it is easier to charm viewers. (Think about Tsuki case. Do you think she would have gone viral on a group fancam? It was because her personal camera captured how charming and good she is that she grabbed people attention) Tiffany ended up calling herself and being called old and old-fashioned, once again for the laughs, it wasn't serious.
estaría bien si las personas en corea del sur, reconozcan a sus idols, mas aun cuando gracias a ellos, ese país aparece y es conocido a nivel mundial, cuando antes no había señales de ellos. Las chicas de Girls Generation, BTS, IU, y otros no menos importantes, han dado a la economía de corea del sur lo que todas las corporaciones juntas de ese país, no hubiesen podido hacer en el tiempo que los idols con su trabajo artístico si han podido. No reconocerlos, es una indignación y ser mal agradecidos con quienes de alguna forma, dan un descanso, una sonrisa, y diversión a todos sin diferencias de color, idioma u origen. CUIDEMOS A LOS IDOLS.
The reason why new generations are too boring. Fans can take a joke as simple like this. They need to have the reason for everything. Just like how they always accept the least of the bare minimum like good vocals lol. I'm just glad I became a fan where they can still act like regular people, I got the funniest side of idols. Fans forgot that these idols are real people and not some robot to follow whatever they want. Kpop industry is doomed.
She talks just like my grandparents and parents do wth. Girls Generation dances are not even hard you have no right to compare yourself to idols nowadays, cause did you See their choreos ? So annoying.
Why should an ex employee get free parking or coffee though. And of course they have to register any visitor. If anything goes wrong the people to be blamed will be the security and management.
She wasn't randomly showing up out of nowhere. She was there for SNSD rehearsal. It was a planned event. It's like at movie studio lots, they know you're coming in advance and already have your information at the security gate. SM is acting petty.
She is no longer a part, yes! But she's coming for work. She's working for SM's group which is girls generation. There's a big difference if you are just coming there to visit randomly. Do you think the producers, choreographers, and other people working FOR SM but not an employee of SM pays parking fees? I doubt that. But with this logic, she is just making a joke, obviously.
She is no longer a part, yes! But she's coming for work. She's working for SM's group which is girls generation. There's a big difference if you are just coming there to visit randomly. Do you think the producers, choreographers, and other people working FOR SM but not an employee of SM pays parking fees? I doubt that. But with this logic, she is just making a joke, obviously.
Yes, she left the company so she doesn't get employee perks. But she wasn't visiting the company to socialize, she went to do work. Like, they couldn't validate her parking, really?
Huh? She's still the same though. How is it ruined? She just lost so much weight. She still has the eye smile and beautiful smile to come with. Plus she's reaching 35 yrs old. She mature. You just want them to look exactly like how they were before? 😂
The way I see it, if people are upset about the clickbait, it worked..... they clicked on the bait and now, they're blaming everyone else but themselves. Lol. Just sayin
Ex-sm artists: “After all the things I do for the company!” Well the company has also done much for you. Not the best job but yeah.. great revenue. They’re literally really well off now. Love SM artist, love fany but with all due respect, 🫡 the due is paid 😃 You left for the better, stay for the better.
She is no longer a part, yes! But she's coming for work. She's working for SM's group which is girls generation. There's a big difference if you are just coming there to visit randomly. Do you think the producers, choreographers, and other people working FOR SM but not an employee of SM pays parking fees? I doubt that. But with this logic, she is just making a joke, obviously.
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*THIS BUILDING WAS BOUGHT THANKS TO ME*
tell them girl😆
And nobody would no her if it wasn't for sm
New building was bought thanks to Exo (growl). I am biggest soshi but if it wasnt SM in first place, we wiuld probably never hear of Tiffany
It doesn't matter. She was a big part of a huge success for SM. It's okay for her to feel a certain way. They gave a big part of their lives to the company it's only natural to feel bad when they treat you like you're not 'family' after all those years
@@ifyouseekme6694 I am not saying she has no rights to feel bad?
@@ssj-rose4572geez u must be fun at parties. Take a joke, will you? 😂
It feels so good to see her feel comfortable enough to make jokes like these. She really grew so well. I remember in the past she got so much hate for being "mean" that she was always trying to defend herself and diffuse jokes as misunderstandings and she was sensitive to her image. Now she is confident in herself, who she is, what she can do that she can even make a joke "you bought this building because of me" 🤣😍
I'm so proud of you Fany!
Totally agree with you. K-Pop stans nowadays put too much attention to things like this. I mean, it's actually a joke that she said "you bought this building because of me", well, frankly saying, she made a contribution here no matter when SM actually bought the building, but everyone be like "it's not Tiffany (SNSD) who bought it, it's blablabla" like heyyy chill, bro, you don't need to take the joke and comfy convos like this that way ahahahaha
It was a pretty usual joke at that time. I certainly heard Boa say a joke like this too. So sad if the newer gen can't even make a joke 😅
u can just tell she's a veteran in this industry bc of her wit & energy!! she's confident and sure of herself i love that about her & other veteran* gg's esp snsd!! 💖
If she was confident why did she had 100000000 plastic surgeries then
@@willa9880 she doesnt have any plastic surgery... there's a procedure that no need some needles..contouring is not a PS.. and of course signs of aging
@@willa9880you talking like it’s a new thing to kpop. 99% of idols nowadays have at least done one thing to enhance their face/appearance. Even if she has done it, I see nothing wrong since she may just wanted to look better on movie screen, which is a normal mindset of all actors and entertainers.
veteran*
@@willa9880 well we all, her fans, had been through a lot of fight with people like you, I mean haters, spreading hate comments out of nowhere. So actually, your comment don't mean that much for us. We stan her for her bright personality, sorry not sorry gurl.
Glad they’re being nice and pleasant to her during this interview. They better stay that way from now on.
We haven’t forgotten how the Korean media treated her after the Snapchat “scandal.”
Tiffany its normal in other industry too, you worked so hard for them but once you left, they dont really care much
Agree. Welcome to the real world.
She has a point. New idols these days do seem to perform very halfheartedly
She was talking about the rehearsals, not when they are performing live
I am also surprised to hear that. I think rehearsals are important to build stamina as well. And my first thought was...."Ahh... No wonder, the new gen of KPop idols seems so different."
Well, perhaps not all of them, but still....
it’s very ironic coming from her
@@nnnn-sc2imyou were saying?
@@finnkyrie4569 I’m saying it’s ironic since she struggles with snsd’s most basic choreos i wonder if she criticizes hyoyeon for not improving her vocals despite being an idol for 16(almost 17) years
Tiffany is so ridiculously beautiful and funny at the same time. I love her look AND personality so much. ♥♥
She's hilarious and gorgeous. And being a veteran looks damn good on her. Shes grown into an even more shining version of herself. Even as a SONE I am so proud of her.
We love you Tiffany! Sometimes you just gotta do your thing in pursuit of the next move.
2nd gen idols were really different... These days, everyone is saying "of course they don't sing live for $30! Of course you are half-heartedly doing a rehearsal!" ...and the performance, and the encore.
That's the standard now because you weren't a fan when they were putting their all into every performance and probably getting paid less than these new idols.
you realize people are just joking when they say “ofc they don’t sing live for $30” can you not understand sarcasm
pov: u dicovered jokes! also snsd lipsync a lot too yk why? cause they're from sm and sm barely lets their idols sing live since the pandemic
@@diana913 almost all of snsd perfomances in music shows are live. There's a big difference sm's performances nowadays and back in 2nd gen
@@moonlightchill4538 yeah and what's the reason for that? it's not the idols themselves, it's the music shows and the companies that demand them to lipsync
@@diana913 Sure, but it's also what the company broadcasting the show displays. Sometimes, the camera overlays the music over the performance, but listen to a fancam, you can hear them sing. So that's sort of true, but not exactly.
Totally understandable, given that Tiffany is no longer a direct employee of SM Entertainment.
But, it would also be nice for SM to improve their process in accommodating their contract-based artists (e.g. Tiffany, Kyuhyun, Donghae) like requiring their management to liaise these earlier with SM for a smooth experience for both the former artists and their management when entering the building.
P.S.: I am not familiar with the standard protocols. Still, it made me think of possible improvements since Kyuhun raised a similar concern too, as someone who’s also contracted for his group-related activities in SM Entertainment.
Actually all the company will do the same
You're 100% correct in that. An overall better and smoother experience for all involved would be nice
@@NewCaledonia1987 it's just too much of a petty move when the said artist is going to actually work for the company, recording and rehearsing for their album project and not just visiting and playing around and such. Should've given a temporary pass for the duration of the album production.
@@vincenzaseano6456 no it's not petty. She is no longer part of SM. It just part of their regulations. This happened In all company
@@NewCaledonia1987 not if you are going to basically rehire that person to do special projects for your company temporarily. That's basically just greed, pettiness, and disrespect. If she's there to just visit and play around then yeah, she has to pay for parking, etc. But she's basically there as a senior employee, doing works again and making them more money. That's just lame tbh. No wonder LSM tried to takeover and one by one moved out of there.
Back then in SNSD high time, i became a Fanytastic after i watched her on that babysitting show, that Tiffany and this Tiffany are basically still the same, her true character, hardly contained honest to god straight forward Fany with no holds bared ❤ she's just so genuine you can't resist the charm it creates around her.
You were and will always be my SNSD bias, Mi-young 🥰
I think she's referring to how should a company treats their visitor, and no, not any visitor but someone who actually collaborates with the company. anyways.. the title itself is misleading.
Fantastic Fang Tiffany ❤
Yoooo if Tiff did a single with JYP that would be fiiiiire!!!
she already worked with JYP for unnies shut up single
She’s so cute as always ❤
Tiffany is great :) she radiates confidence and is funny
Aside from that parking or coffee incident. Tiffany raises a valid point here. Kpop these days are all about visuals and dancing but where are the vocals? That's the real performance. SNSD and Red Velvet had such incredible vocal lines but these days the rapper line of both groups can do better than the main vocalists of new groups
Aespa is also good at vocals. Even karina can hit high notes and she is "only" a main dancer.
the way y’all have turned into the stans that criticized snsd back in their prime also if you actually looked into 4th gen you’d see that there are many groups that put in the effort and are passionate about their job
And there are too many groups these days, that I can't keep up at all
You are damn right you are one of the foundations of that building you will not be called "Nations Girl Group" for nothing. Sad to say but I think the 20th SNSD anniversary will be as grand as their 15th anniversary as LSM is not in SME anymore it was only possible because LSM made it possible. I love Fany's energy, bluntness and killer smile. I remember when she was one of the mentors in GP999.
I suggest yall listen to Tiffany’s solo works! Run for Your Life and Magnetic Moon are iconic
I've been a fan of Tiffany since 2011 and it's been 13 years now, so I naturally grew up with her. From "Fanytastic" to "YoungOne", literally. The thing I like about her is her cute, bright, and kind-hearted personality, she's very caring but at the same time she's very polite and always knows how to behave in different places / occasions. She has this smart girl vibes, sometimes elegant, classy, independent woman. She really was and is still my role model. & I never regret stanning her. It's nice to see her having fun and comfy convos like this, and even make jokes about it, so pleasant to know~
So Tiff, whichever path you choose, I'll always cheer for you , support you, and don't you worry I've got your back girl! Keep on shining ♡
Frankly it's business.. it's like Kyuhyun, Dong hae and Eunhyuk also said SM probably deleted their biometric access entry also when they left..
I am sure HYBE would do the same, as they also use facial recognition for access.
I am not sure if it's Sunmi or BamBam once said they went back to JYP and also found they had to pay for parking now they are considered non employees.
She wasn't randomly showing up out of nowhere. She was there for SNSD rehearsal. It was a planned event. It's like at movie studio lots, they know you're coming in advance and already have your information at the security gate. SM is acting petty.
Please release a solo album, Tiffany! ❤
pics in thumbnail wow, tiff's face doesn't age after 17 years. what a person.
OMG! I remember the days when Tiffany used to struggle in Korean on these shows! It's so amazing to see her answer to questions so much better now!
But so tru tho the rehearsal part, n maybe thats y 1st- 3rd gens all had passionate high energied vibez while they are performing cuz they are performing like their rents and bills are due and piling up 😂😂
Their rents and bills were due and piling up though, most k-pop artists are in debt to the company until their music becomes profitable? They have to pay for their training. They usually don’t make any money until years after their debut depending on how successful they are.🥲
the way y’all have turned into the stans that criticized snsd back in their prime also if you actually looked into 4th gen you’d see that there are many groups that put in the effort and are passionate about their job
@@nnnn-sc2imso we just copying and pasting this same paragraph under every comment agreeing with Tiffany huh. You go out your way to bash 2nd gen idols but will defend 3rd and 4th gen like they are paying you. Get well soon
there’s also no point in going full out for a rehearsal all you’re doing is wasting your energy
❤Tiffany
Her face seems so different but i cant tell what it is...
Lip fillers and some other stuff I can't tell.
it looks stiff so most probably fillers.
Her face is getting longer as she gets older.
She shaved her jaw and lost weight to fit the actress beauty standards, since she's focusing on her acting career.
Tiffany the woman you are! I love her!!! 💗💗💗
The standards now are so low thanks BIG 3 for staying the same or doing better
the way y’all have turned into the stans that criticized snsd back in their prime also if you actually looked into 4th gen you’d see that there are many groups that put in the effort and are passionate about their job
@@nnnn-sc2imbruh you’ve been all over these kpop comment sections 😂 being pressed must be a full time job huh🤔
@@PeteZaroll551I’m in all these comment sections because y’all are annoying and can’t seem to get over your nostalgia you have for 2nd gen groups
@@nnnn-sc2im womp womp cry me a river scrub. Still can't help but dedicate yourself to annoying people tho. So who's really the fool🤭
Now I understand why Fany always backed up SM and LSM. The guy spoke up for her. Thank you LSM for giving us Fany. Really LSM is a bit weird but you can tell he always believed in the music and the artistry more than just the business and took an interest in his people. He left a very deep legacy, Kpop is the better and what it is now thanks to him.
It must have been really sad and shocking for Fany to see how things had got. It's no wonder even LSM eventually got pushed out of his own company.
Love her, I name my daughter after her, she's 14 now,
Unnies mentioned let’s gooooooo
The best kpop group
Has MBC turned into one of those trash sites where they create dramatic header for click bait and hate comments? She went there TO WORK on SNSD's 15th anniversary project which brings profit to SM too no?. She is not complaining about having to pay but more towards how those SM mgmt should at least have the curtesy to inform them to expect certain procedures when in the building vicinity for the first time since she hasn't been there after she left the agency.
The title of this video implies that SM treated Tiffany 'badly' and specifically says that she was "sad" about it, and MBC treats the two minute segment as the principle topic of the whole conversation. Tiffany is clearly amused at her own confusion in her change of status from being an employee to being just a visitor, because she defaulted to 13 years of habit, unconsciously expecting that her coffee and parking would be free.
As the female host correctly noted, the reception staff were just following protocol, as they should, despite Tiffany's significant association with SM, and as the male host also correctly pointed out, having to pay for coffee and parking wasn't really a big deal, to which Tiffany laughingly agreed....which is the exchange that completely undermines the implications of the video title MBC has used.
It's just unnecesary 'clickbait' titling. Just having Tiffany on is enough to generate views on its own, without stooping to manufacture a 'scandal'. I'll still give a like, because overall the interview/chat is fine, but I disapprove of how its been presented.
Agree. Thanks for speaking up! ♡♡
evil editing to get more views and create unnecessary chaos
You should've seen the akp article written about this instead. The author made Fany sound like a complete douche.
@@liltunwin well, I wouldn't read it then... Don't give them any attention... ❤🔥
I think the title is quite fair. It doesn't exaggerate anything and says things as they are. It's obviously meant to grab the attention of people, but I don't think there's any clickbait at all.
Facts:
- Tiffany was treated very differently compared to before despite being a familiar person
- Tiffany was forced to follow protocol as if she was completely unrelated
- Tiffany was upset at that difference in treatment
The title is entirely fair.
I get why groups nowadays are more relaxed in reharsals. I love SNSD, but their choreos use to be simple. Groups with hard and exausting choreos need to save some energy.
She looks different. She and Boa look alike now…
Surgery, botox and filler
It's just like when you resigned from a company and they remove your ID and access, it's totally normal, you don't have a contract with the company anymore. They can't let anyone in even if they were famous.
This just proves that SM don't care about their idols. Once you no longer make them money they no longer care about you. That is the SM way.
The thing is Tiffany is still under contract based for SNSD, so IF SM has professional manner towards all of their contract, they will process to give access to all those who still even under contract based. Since it is mutual need, SM also need Tiffany to do rehearsal
@@observer5427What’s wrong with extending courtesy to a former executive or (artist) who help build your company to what is it now? In some countries that is not called professionalism, but ingratitude.
She wasn't randomly showing up out of nowhere. She was there for SNSD rehearsal. It was a planned event. It's like at movie studio lots, they know you're coming in advance and already have your information at the security gate. SM is acting petty.
She is no longer a part, yes! But she's coming for work. She's working for SM's group which is girls generation. There's a big difference if you are just coming there to visit randomly. Do you think the producers, choreographers, and other people working FOR SM but not an employee of SM pays parking fees? I doubt that. But with this logic, she is just making a joke, obviously.
I'm glad they atleast change the thumbail
Tiffany built that company & employed all those ppl. The disrespect is dumb.
Tiffany you are indeed my favorite. You are all rounder. Nobody can surpass you in your sensuality. I wonder why you haven’t launched your solo career seriously. Look at you. Your glow is real.
Tiffany does have an English solo career, just not one in Korea unfortunately. You should check out her music, its awesome 🌸
@@Kawaiicarly how? I don’t see her here in the US nor in TH-cam. Where can I find her work?
@@JobjobJob-f6eShe released US debut songs in 2018 and all songs are amazing.
Such as, Lips on Lips, Runaway, Born Again, Not Barbie,...
She is the Girls Generation ❤
thats kinda bs since she was one of the reasons why SM has a new building and became this iconic company.
that is SOO crazy lmao. For newer gens, that's like Jennie or Nayeon being treated like that at YG/JYP...
Jennie no longer with YG right, so it's understandable if she also got same treatment like Tiffany, but Nayeon still in jyp, so it's illogical is she also were treated like that
It's normal tho.Idol also an employee of the company, after left the company, they no longer the employee.
Damn she got a new face. Unrecognisable.
I'm so in love with her...
We love you Tiffany❤❤❤
dang she really looks like BoA in certain angles like at 9:30ish
chin reduction , jaw and nose
MY QUEEN ❤
"Funny Members" but she said almost everyone except TaeTiSeo 😂
even TaeTiSeo are funny in their own way
I mean Girls' Generation is indeed comedian lol
During their tts show they are self aware that they are the most unfunny members 😂
my top 3 soshi bias 🥰
#fanyfanytiffany
i mean i totally get it if it's business protocol but you would think they'd be grandfathered in... lmao... most companies do that after you reach a certain amount of years worked there (i.e. disney companies)
Omg!!! I miss this type of Fany ❤️🥰
Cutie Fanny!!!
Her face shape looks different, especially jaw line. Bigger cheek bones too
Emang selalu gemesin fany kalau ceritaa❤❤
Kyuhyun also told that he paid for parking fee in SM building
She's not part of SM anymore, so of course she's not gonna get the same privileges as she once had before.
Yes, you are right. You can not expect to get employee benefits if you are no longer under a contract with them.
but she came there as a member of SNSD, not just a guest who wanted to visit to reminisce... try to imagine, you were already successful and carried the name of your school while you were studying there, then a few years later you were SPECIFICALLY INVITED by your school to carry the name of the school Again, that means, all accommodations related to your school (parking, food, activities, rooms, etc.) are accommodated by your school as long as you as SPECIAL GUEST in there... This is different from if you only visits as an ordinary guest/alumni who wants to see the school.
@@JendralHizuPung At the end of the day, business is business.
you pinkbloods are really something lol
@Duma2011 You're right, we totally got your point. Even in our workplace, once you resigned, benefit and privileges are not the same anymore BUT on the others PERSPECTIVE (her pov)
-she's was invited to make a REUNION of SNSD (Forever1)- comeback
-she used to be an SNSD (who made SM successful in during times of Snsd) - just like schools
- in some companies (even though business is business, if there's a collaboration of diff individuals/organization/former staff- they have these kind of Gesture from the main company) i dont know, but felt sad for what tifanny felt
Tiffany now even can imitate jyp 😂
she impersonate her members really good😅
my first ever biasssssssssss
Tiffany ❤
"Clickbait"😂😂 . GG x Suju 😂 love this groups
Since she left sm, she won't get the same treatment anymore and she had to pay her own parking too
But she is Active girls generation member right it’s mean some how she is still under sm.
She is no longer a part, yes! But she's coming for work. She's working for SM's group which is girls generation. There's a big difference if you are just coming there to visit randomly. Do you think the producers, choreographers, and other people working FOR SM but not an employee of SM pays parking fees? I doubt that. But with this logic, she is just making a joke, obviously.
I like Tiffany
hehe thanks tiff for the laugh, loveee you
6:08 she sounds so veteran and gives off the Sparta type of coaching 😅 is there any of those competition shows where she judges or coaches? Anyone?
girls planet 999!
JYP doesn't stop catching strays everyday 😅
Waiting for jaejoong to invite her
I never knew there were so many people bending their backs to excuse or protect a company for such nonsense. First of all, nothing Tiffany said here is that serious, is a comedic talk show.
You all are acting as if she accused SM for mistreatment on a press conference. She's just talking about parking and coffee, she's not demanding anything, she was not expecting preferential treatment, just common courtesy or some consideration from the company she went to work for. (considering she often buys coffee and pastries for everyone she visits, is understandable, that is something she might expect) Not the end of the world, she mentioned it for the laughs.
The part about how different rehearsals are now, was just to point out how things have changed. Is true that rehearsal were different because they would practice to stand out even if they were further in the back, the average idol now has their own fancam following all their movements and facial expressions, it is easier to charm viewers. (Think about Tsuki case. Do you think she would have gone viral on a group fancam? It was because her personal camera captured how charming and good she is that she grabbed people attention)
Tiffany ended up calling herself and being called old and old-fashioned, once again for the laughs, it wasn't serious.
lmao you have no idea
estaría bien si las personas en corea del sur, reconozcan a sus idols, mas aun cuando gracias a ellos, ese país aparece y es conocido a nivel mundial, cuando antes no había señales de ellos. Las chicas de Girls Generation, BTS, IU, y otros no menos importantes, han dado a la economía de corea del sur lo que todas las corporaciones juntas de ese país, no hubiesen podido hacer en el tiempo que los idols con su trabajo artístico si han podido. No reconocerlos, es una indignación y ser mal agradecidos con quienes de alguna forma, dan un descanso, una sonrisa, y diversión a todos sin diferencias de color, idioma u origen. CUIDEMOS A LOS IDOLS.
Someone ping me when the English CCs are up!
already available
@@legendofbluesea When I try to use them, it's just gibberish. :(
@@michinaein ah rlly?? I hope you can use it so can watch it well :”)
@@legendofbluesea Working now! :)
try again now
I really like Tiffany, she is such an icon and really great vocalist.
But is it her face little bit change or its just me?
she got a nose job
@@cantcoverup1487 i think he got chin and lips job too
@@cantcoverup1487 i think she got chin and lips job too
UNNIE 😢❤
Nooo there was ENG sub before few hours ago now it disappeared! 😥
it's available now 👍
@@JC_0903 awesome thanks!!
super junior Kyuhyun was also asked to pay parking fee😅
Funny funny Tiffany.😂
The reason why new generations are too boring. Fans can take a joke as simple like this. They need to have the reason for everything. Just like how they always accept the least of the bare minimum like good vocals lol. I'm just glad I became a fan where they can still act like regular people, I got the funniest side of idols. Fans forgot that these idols are real people and not some robot to follow whatever they want. Kpop industry is doomed.
you mean you’re glad you became a fan when idols were doing black face every week
Is it only me think she looks like boa lately??
So the question is is snsd going to make a comeback soon or what?
I cant apply the subtitle how can I do it?
First time last time every time.
😊🙏🏻
Tiffanny falou tudo kkkk
She talks just like my grandparents and parents do wth. Girls Generation dances are not even hard you have no right to compare yourself to idols nowadays, cause did you See their choreos ? So annoying.
Donghae and Eunhyuk said SM erased their fingerprints from the system so they cant get in 😂😂😂
Why should an ex employee get free parking or coffee though. And of course they have to register any visitor. If anything goes wrong the people to be blamed will be the security and management.
She wasn't randomly showing up out of nowhere. She was there for SNSD rehearsal. It was a planned event. It's like at movie studio lots, they know you're coming in advance and already have your information at the security gate. SM is acting petty.
She is no longer a part, yes! But she's coming for work. She's working for SM's group which is girls generation. There's a big difference if you are just coming there to visit randomly. Do you think the producers, choreographers, and other people working FOR SM but not an employee of SM pays parking fees? I doubt that. But with this logic, she is just making a joke, obviously.
It might be correct that girl group rehearse very lazily😅
Welcome to the real world. Corporate world be like that too. Once you're not part of the institution, you are treated as such
The title of this video is so dramatic
She is no longer part of SM, the company has no reason to continue giving her benefits.
She's not asking for company's benefits, She's just making joke.
She is no longer a part, yes! But she's coming for work. She's working for SM's group which is girls generation. There's a big difference if you are just coming there to visit randomly. Do you think the producers, choreographers, and other people working FOR SM but not an employee of SM pays parking fees? I doubt that. But with this logic, she is just making a joke, obviously.
Yes, she left the company so she doesn't get employee perks. But she wasn't visiting the company to socialize, she went to do work. Like, they couldn't validate her parking, really?
She ruined her face she was the prettiest
Huh? She's still the same though. How is it ruined? She just lost so much weight. She still has the eye smile and beautiful smile to come with. Plus she's reaching 35 yrs old. She mature. You just want them to look exactly like how they were before? 😂
Tiffany Mom? .. waittt.. i thought Tiffany and Yoona mother's passed away since they were still young? No?
에스엠 안돼겠네...아니 지들이 누구덕에 성공했는데...
애초부터 sm은 H.O.T. S.E.S. 보아 동방신기 신화로 성공했었음. 반대로 소녀시대가 에스엠 덕에 성공한거지
이전 가수들로는 빚갚고 외부에서 합작 투자 받아서 보아 데뷔시키고 그 보아 덕분에 에스엠이 성공하고 동방신기 소녀시대 만들 수 있긴 했지
2세대는 솔직히 돈을 많이 벌기는 했지만, 2세대들때문에는 성공은 아님
누구덕 그런게 어딨냐 서로가 서로의 덕보고 사는거야 어리석은…
제일 중요한건 자신이다.
지가 잘나서 잘된거야 으휴
The way I see it, if people are upset about the clickbait, it worked..... they clicked on the bait and now, they're blaming everyone else but themselves. Lol. Just sayin
Ex-sm artists: “After all the things I do for the company!”
Well the company has also done much for you. Not the best job but yeah.. great revenue. They’re literally really well off now.
Love SM artist, love fany but with all due respect, 🫡 the due is paid 😃 You left for the better, stay for the better.
She is no longer a part, yes! But she's coming for work. She's working for SM's group which is girls generation. There's a big difference if you are just coming there to visit randomly. Do you think the producers, choreographers, and other people working FOR SM but not an employee of SM pays parking fees? I doubt that. But with this logic, she is just making a joke, obviously.