Any other CO2 alternatives we could experiment with? Watch the video about CO2 tablets th-cam.com/video/R4vaUPo1TWY/w-d-xo.html UKAPS journal using sparkling water bit.ly/3ngwsi7 My DIY CO2 video th-cam.com/video/OtpfltN15-8/w-d-xo.html MY FAVORITE CO2 SETS CO2ART: bit.ly/3E4ksXM Use Code ''amsterdam'' for 10% off Fzone DIY CO2 reactor: amzn.to/3vxPdS1 Fzone regulator: amzn.to/3jkj1ws Aquarium details: TANK (US) 36p amzn.to/37M97h3 (EU) amzn.to/3k0uhO5 LIGHT (US) amzn.to/3xRQAdG (EU) amzn.to/3zNbOLL FILTER (US) amzn.to/3AKak50 (EU) amzn.to/3slWGC1 CO2 (US) amzn.to/3COGU7E (EU) amzn.to/3mc2Bsn DIFFUSER (US) amzn.to/3t0Unoc (EU) amzn.to/3BQUDJE AQUASOIL (US) amzn.to/2WVLoZR (EU) amzn.to/3DWT92o ROCKS amzn.to/38KAJDN WOOD amzn.to/3DVAowz
Hi MJ, I have been experimenting with sparkling water for 6 weeks now and I have been getting the same results as a high tech system; in half an hour my tank will be filled with oxygen bubbles. However, I use a more efficient method and hence the better results. Firstly, I dose 1l of sparkling water per 200l of aquarium water, which is a lot higher than what you have experimented with. Any more and the fish do start breathing heavily, however in densely planted tanks, I can quite easily go for 2l of sparkling water per 200l of aquarium water without harming fish, snails or shrimp. I also redose 4 hours later to maximise the effect. The other thing is that I do not unscrew the bottle cap like the way you did as doing so causes so much of the CO2 to escape. Instead I submerge the bottle into the tank and then punch a tiny hole with a needle into the bottom of it. This forces the CO2 to efficiently dissolve into the aquarium water. I have plenty of pictures and videos demonstrating the method and the results, but I cannot share them here in the comments, or at least I don't know how to. As for minerals, then I wouldn't worry about that as they are too few to affect the parameters, but do read the label of the sparkling water bottle before buying.
This is very interesting and I have to try it. I have a SodaStream machine at home, so don't have to worry about salts or addons, in fact, I can just used water prepped for water changes and inhect it with a bit of CO2.
Don't worry... Adding it in a limited quantity will not harm your fishes. But it will surely trigger good pearling in your plants... I tried this many times and it works 👍
Hi great Video, i started my first nanotank 2 weeks ago and i keep injecting sparkling water from my sodastream and so far i am very happy with the results
It's about time we saw someone illustrate this. I've never used this method but always knew it would work. It would have been better if you tested the pH, KH and EC before and during the test period. The EC would have given some indication if the salts present in the bottled water were having any effect on the mineral content of the tank. Different brands of bottled water have different mineral content, therefore one can choose the brand which has the most compatible minerals. After all, many of these minerals are present in the fertilizers we add to the tank. With the exorbitant price of sparkling mineral water (in UK) I suspect that, long-term, this would not be the most economical method of adding CO2.
Hi Mark, great experiment. The sparkling water will mainly be carbonic acid (reaction of co2 and water). Therefore, the drop checker will be measuring acidity of the water upon addition of carbonic acid my friend. The carbonic acid to co2 will be in equilibrium with each other depending on pH of the aquarium. Great seeing your videos.
Recently and in the past I’ve used distilled water in a soda stream, it worked great and even with blue dream shrimp I added an entire 24 oz sometimes(in a 10 gallon). They didn’t like it for a minute but got used to it quickly, I did this once every while so definitely not regularly. Not to mention I recently added 4 bottles to a new tank which I saw scuds in, this is to suffocate them, along with adding algae fix overdose(kills shrimp so no shrimp were in the tank), which to my knowledge completely killed all scuds in the 5 gallon. But also saw insane pearling on all the leaves!
I use a 5ga CO2 tank with a soda regulator to make my own club soda in soda bottles. It lasts for 2 years and I drink a lot of soda water. I imagine if you use your aquarium water, fill a bottle 3/4 full, then squeeze out the excess air before attaching to soda hose, you will get some great results. Chilling the bottle of aquarium water to near freezing before adding CO2 should get even better results (cold water will accept more CO2). Make sure you cap it and warm it up before pouring into the tank. CO2 tank is cheap to refill at Airgas company, and I think I probably pay about 1 or 2 cents per soda when all costs are factored over 2 years. Currently don't have an aquarium, just doing my research first. Hope this helps.
why doesn't anybody say it? -Your bottle should be kept cold in the refrigerator to stop CO2 from leaving the water. (then, open and keep chilled) -Also, have you ever poured (not so cold) beer into a room temperature plastic cup?... all foam... = goodbye CO2 bubbles. If you can pour a tiny shot from the cold bottle, it will be more effective... and will hardly chill the tank with such a tiny amount. -Cheers! (if you must measure a shot, use a chilled marked shot Glass) EDIT: watched the remaining half of the video... Thx for sharing your experiments, especially the yeast-beast! Your tanks are beautiful!
Mark great review, l use ice cubes for breeding Buenos Aires tetras. I tried sparkling water before, it did not end in major success for myself. Keep up the great work!
I would strongly advise checking the pH of any sparkling water (especially mineral water) before adding to an aquarium with fish. They are usually very acidic (pH 4-5). Also bad for your teeth if you drink large quantities.
Hi MJ. Seeing all your tanks and experiments have really inspired me. I am a newbie to a plant and shrimp tank with no CO2. I feel like this is already a challenge as I've already killed a lot of shrimp and plants. :(
I attached an inverted plastic gatorade bottle to my filter intake tube with plastic zip ties and directed a airline tubing into the mouth of the bottle. The other end of the airline tubing is attached to the injector of a Sodastream machine. I injected the CO2 from the sodastream into the inverted bottle until it pushed out all the water. The CO2 eventually gets absorbed by the aquarium water over the next few days and I recharge it with more CO2 from the sodastream. It works great. For larger planted aquariums, you can add a second bottle or use a larger plastic bottle. Plastic bottles with larger cap openings will increase the rate of CO2 absorption. Water bottles with smaller mouth openings are ideal for smaller tanks.
A liter of sparkling water should bring a 40-55 gallon up to around 20 ppm so it could be a useful tool for getting new plants to grow in during peak photosynthesis hours
FYI PH of the water correlates to your KH and CO2 levels. If you know how much CO2 is in your water you can calculate how much you need to put in your aquarium for it to be safe for the animals and good for the plants.
Btw I think when you are having a spray bar into your low tech aquarium; the drops that hits the water surface gives a really good mix to the water & gives good aeration which provides gases exchange in the tank; I see my plants pearling! I think for that and the more far the spray bar the more bubbles into the tank. I thought I could share this experience maybe it works, and could help others. Great experiment bro 👍🏼 keep it up; I have been using your diy into my new jungle tank and it works perfect but at the night i remove the hose from the tank because I worry for the fish 🥲
Ooh sparkling water , I never heard of this experiment ! Really hoping that it is successful ! So far I have heard some positive things in the video !!
Amazing results Mark. Im going to set up a 30cm cube later, add plants,no livestock. I’m going to purely fill the tank with Sparkling water, it’s cheap enough to try for a couple of weeks 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
I have used club soda in approximately same proportions. It is only water and CO2. I also add chelated iron, and it caused good oxygen respiration. In the past ,I used yeast CO2 reactors. That is a two litre bottle with rigid pipe attached to a hose inserted into the intake pipe of filter.1.75 litres of 92 degree water 2 cups of sugar and one teaspoon of yeast. Lasts 2 or 3 weeks. Have to put a valve on pipe and turn off at night. I did not ,but never poisoned my fish that I know of.
Good little experiment nicely documented and presented. Have you thought of doing an experiment using a Co2 bell ? There are videos on YT with people using this method but for me they seem to be inconclusive... I'm sure you would do a much better job 👍 Thanks for all your work 👍
I once thought of trying a Co2 bell using Co2 from sparkling water fitting a cap with a feed pipe and valve so I could open the valve to fill the bell and then close off without losing gas from the bottle... It only got to be a thought though as then I decided to get a regulator/solenoid running off a Co2 fire extinguisher... A bell would be interesting for my other tanks.👍
Also, i guess you could kinda drip-acclimate the tank with the sparkling water. If you have a bottle you can inject the co2 in the bottle, make a stand to put the bottle upside down above the tank, and drip-acclimate the sparkling water during the day, i guess you would have to refill the bottle every day but i guess it could be a solution
I did something similiar with a spare soda stream. I put tubing on the nozzle and used to to fill a diy passive diffuser i made out of a water bottle in the tank. Worked fairly well.
A carbonated drink usally have 6-8 gCo2/L. So that's 0,24-0,32 g Co2 added to the tank if you add 40ml. A value between 20 and 25 mg Co2/L is usally ideal for an aquarium. The tank is 20 liters so the concetration is 0,24/20 = 12 mg/L to 0,32/20 = 16mg/L. So you get pretty close to that ideal cencentration of Co2 with this method but only directly after adding the sparkling water. After that the concetration probably decrease pretty rapidly.
Lets compare it to a sodastream bottle. 1l of sparkling water in my counry usally cost 1 euro. so thats 6-8g of Co2 per euro. A soda stream refil costs 8 euro and contain 400g of Co2. That's 50g Co2 per euro. So the conclusion is that you shouln't buy sparkling water.
That's the calculation I went with when I tried that on my no co2 tank. I could see bubbles forming on my leaves and nice growth for the 2 weeks that I did it.
I have two comments: (1) it’s been my experience that different brands of sparkling water have different levels of carbonation. So it’s really difficult to judge how much sparkling water to use. (2) it seems to me that you lose a lot of the CO2 by opening the bottle, pouring the soda into a container, and the pouring the soda into the tank. I am experimenting adding CO2 by adding seltzer (pure water and CO2). I open a one liter bottle of seltzer just enough to release a small stream of bubbles into the tank. I invert the bottle in the tank and secure it to the side to keep the cap underwater. My plecostomus and MT snails have shown no sign of stress after three hours of infusion. So far the plants are showing no reaction.
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take an even bigger box around it filled with air, burn a candle in this space, and let it go out on its own, the water will absorb the co2 on its own, repeat every day, the bigger the box around it the more co2 the longer it takes for the candle to go out. I am trying oxygen output so a candle can stay lit
If you don't how much sparkling water you have to add you can calculate it. My sparkling water at home has 7 g/l carbon dioxide. To make it easier 7000 mg/l. If your target is to have 35 mg/l you can use the formula c1*V1=c2*V2. c1= 7000 mg/l; V1= x l (we like to know); c2= 35mg/l (our carbon dioxide target); V2 = 55 l (my volume of aquarium). Then move the formula to V1= (c2*V2)/c1 = 0,275 l = 275 ml sparkling water. But as you said, if your permanent test is turning to blue again you have to add the full volume again? Or not? Well, I keep my little CO2-cylinder ;-) btw: you can calculate how many carbon dioxide you have added if you use 5 ml sparkling water ;-)
so maybe i'm wrong but doesn't co2 just slowly release from a bottle when it's opened? So what happens if you run a tube through the cap of a bottle (sealed with glue or something of sparkling water to a diffuser in your tank, would that add co2 to your tank water slowly?
I did that according to what u thought and it works well. I used the mineral water and connect with air tubing with the diffusor. Viola. It works so good that i can even turn off at night by putting back the original cap that yeast and sugar cannot.
My CO2 system broke a couple days ago (O-Gasket crumbled, and it will take a couple of weeks to get a replacement). I have a CO2 charger that I use for making sparkling water for my own drinking pleasure. It would have the same salts, minerals, etc as the water I use for the tanks, and I should be able to dose it with a water conditioner before I use it in the tank. I'm home most days--thanks COVID--so I should be able to break up the doses. I think I'll try this just until my new CO2 system arrives. Hopefully it will tide over my fussier plants until then. Thanks for doing the experiment!
I think this is brilliant ,this the answers all along, about concerning salt material in sparkling water…what if neutralize it with oxygenic water or probiotics…I mean I kindda lazy myself to change water on my low tech tank..so every time I see the water condition blur or so many amoniac on the surface..I just poured it much and in a few minutes ahead the water becomes clear again…
have you tried fermenting wine in a bottle airlock system or Mixing vinegar and baking soda? capture in a test tube 🧪 and suction cup upside down in the aquarium? I enjoy your videos
I think 5ml is 20 liters is not that much. You are effectively diluting the sparkling water 1:4000. Indeed, around 40ml or more would seem much more effective to get the tank water carbonated.
Ik voeg soms wat Spa Rood toe aan mijn aquarium. Spa waters hebben het laagste gehalte aan mineralen van de in Nederland verkochte bronwaters, Spa Rood heeft een droogrest van slechts 47 mg per liter. Dat is ongeveer het gewicht van 2 waterdruppels dus daar hoef je je geen zorgen over te maken. Ter vergelijking: kraanwater met een hardheid van 5 dH, wat helemaal niet veel is, bevat alleen al 89 mg per liter aan kalkvormende deeltjes. Het is natuurlijk wel zo dat een continue afgifte van CO2 middels een doseersysteem beter is dat in één keer een flinke hoeveelheid toevoegen en dan weer een tijd niets. Voor mijn vissen en garnalen maakt het niet uit, behalve als ze toevallig door zo'n "wolk" van Spa Rood zwemmen die nog niet goed is gemend, dan schrikken ze heel erg. Ik denk dat dat komt omdat Spa Rood erg zuur is door de grote hoeveelheid koolzuur dat daarin is opgelost. De pH van Spa Rood is ongeveer 3,8 las ik. CO2 wordt onder druk aan Spa water toegevoegd, vandaar dat er belletjes CO2 opstijgen als je de dop losdraait. Hetzelfde geld voor bier en cola. CO2 reageert met water tot koolzuur: CO2 + H2O --> H2CO3. Dit is een evenwicht, de reactie kan ook de andere kant opgaan: H2CO3 --> CO2 + H2O. Koolzuur heet niet voor niets koolZUUR omdat het een zuur is: H2CO3 --> H+ + HCO3- (H+ is een proton en hoe hoger de concentratie protonen in water, hoe zuurder het is; pH is direct gerelateerd aan de concentratie protonen, daar staat de H voor in pH). In tegenstelling tot CO2 kan zuurstof (O2) niet reageren met water en dus alleen in water oplossen en "helaas" voor al het waterleven lost zuurstof slecht op in water. Maar het waterleven is daarop aangepast. Droogijs is vast CO2 dat bij kamertemperatuur gelijk overgaat in gasvormig CO2. Op zich is het een zuivere vorm van CO2 en goed bruikbaar voor het aquarium maar niet praktisch, want hoe voeg je het toe? Als je zo'n brokje droogijs in je aquarium gooit, zal het voor >99% veranderen in gas en dan gewoon in de lucht verdwijnen in plaats van op te lossen in het aquariumwater want ook CO2 lost net als O2 slecht op in water. En die grote gasbellen CO2 die je ziet als je zo'n brokje droogijs in je aquarium gooit, helpen ook niet. Vandaar dat die CO2 dispensors juist van die hele fijne belletjes afgeven, want die lossen wel snel op in water. Een van de meeste elegante low-tech systemen n.m.m. die ik op TH-cam heb gezien wordt getoond in deze video: th-cam.com/video/rg1u-XVMU3Q/w-d-xo.html (skip naar 8.00 minuten). In plaats van zo'n lelijke plastic fles kun je natuurlijk ook een mooie glazen fles o.i.d. gebruiken in je aquarium. Ik ben overigens geen expert in CO2 systemen hoor maar ik vind het wel leuk om te zien wat hobbyisten allemaal verzinnen.
There’s a DIY bottle method product made by a few different companies that costs around $40usd and it even has a solenoid shutoff valve and overpressure protection. If you have a couple of 2 liter bottles laying around, this is by far the cheapest method to safely inject CO2.
carbonated water usually contains more salt than regular water, salt does not evaporate, so if you keep adding carbonated water, the water will get salty... if you just want to use the CO2 from the soda water or any carbonated water, just add a cap with a small tube on it to the bottle like in yoru DIY co2 bottles, that way, the CO2 escapes from the soda, through the tube in your aquarium. but as you can imagine, this will only work untill the soda is flat.
Interesting. I would like to improve the growth of my moss, but still a little wary of the tanks general health. Maybe direct dosing moss like one would dose excel on bba on anubias?
I used the sparkling water similar to yeast and sugar by connecting with an airline tubing with a diffusor. So, i think its similar to diy as the co2 only comes out without impacting the water parameters and closed with original cap after the lights are off . So, i thought its better than yeast and baking soda that cannot turn off during nights? I am not sure since its just day 2.
If this method works better than no CO2 at all, what I'm wondering is could someone not produce and sell a 'sparkling water' specifically for aquariums which lacks the minerals and salts but is carbonated. We know that adding CO2 all at once isn't as good as having CO2 throughout the photoperiod, but if a co2 spike is better than a control of no CO2 at all, then it seems to me like this method would work for at least some people. Compared with the 'bottled CO2' products this at least seems somewhat effective.
Hey MJ, great video experiment. I'll try it later for my nano moss tank. And i think you should try experiment with candles or lantern next. Since buring will produce carbon dioxide. Hopefully you'll cover up the video and would like to see the outcome. Thanks MJ.
Make sure it’s flavorless and free of colors, fruity tastes or sugars - they will be snuck in, depending on the brand, so read labels. I almost did this myself, years ago, until I noticed I had bought lemon sparkling h2o. Great, uggghhh Also I’m not sure of the effect of the sodium chloride on the overall tank? From time to time I’ve added a pinch of aquarium salt or sea salt, just for overall health, pests parasites etc. not something I did every water change at all. But I don’t know really about sodium chloride. Thanks again for your videos.
Just a thought... could you add some airline tubing to the lid of the sparkling water bottle like you do in your home-made co2 setups and allow the co2 to escape without adding the water? (would that even work?)
What if you suspended the sparkling water upside down above the tank with a bit of airline tubing and a valve running a constant drip feed into the filter outflow? You’d have to have a water bottle lid with the airline tube drilled and adequately sealed to swap with the normal bottle cap but I think it would work?
Hey I've been bouncing around to a bunch of your videos.. I noticed you mentioned snails. Still searching for an answer.. Almost think it could be its own video? How do you feel about snails in open top aquariums? You mention you have them. And I believe all of your tanks are open top. Any stories or tips about this?
I guess a soda streamer with water you would add to your tank anyway would be better, then? If one person is set on using this method. I assume keeping it chilled will maintain more co2 in the water as well. (If you have a soda streamer but can't afford an adapter for the canister)
A next experiment I'd recommend about co2 is pressurised (obviously) vs an air stone All the gas exchange doesn't only help the aquarium stay oxygenated, but if a tank is short on dissolved co2, an air stone should help it Absorb some of the 0.04 percent available in our air
when you bubble air (containing 400 ppm of CO2) through your tank, the CO2 gas will dissolve in the water depending on pH and temperature until the equilibrium concentration (about 5 ppm) is reached. This means you maintain a stable CO2 concentration, which is still enough for most of the plants.
Lol I actually thought about this randomly yesterday "what if you add sparkling water to the aquarium for CO2" and low and behold, people actually tried it. I did know it was going to work, taking it logically, but just as I also thought, there are too many downsides to it. I'll stick to the CO2 cannisters :D I could potentially see this working only if you do it for an exclusively plant-only aquarium
I think you can pour the Sparkling Water to the DIY CO2 bottle instead of using yeast. The CO2 can leak out of liquid phase in time and then you"ll get CO2 in your diffuser. Combining the two methods should be okay I think
Hey, i have a question. Have you ever seen an inline fertilizer that goes to the filter outline hose? Want to keep the tank clean with as little stuff visual. Thank you
In your DIY system you use water, sukker, yeast and gelatin. You said it takes about 24 hours before it produces CO2. I don’t know anything about chemistry so this might be a really silly question, but is there a reason a bottle of coke or any other soda can’t be used? I mean the water, sugar and CO2 is already there, so if you add the yeast and gelatin, could that work or would it just explode 😅
I love these experiments be interested to see what results you get from the Ofgas from the bottles if you could recoup some sort of later on the bottle to a bubbler in the aquarium. I know it will be a little bit of messing around but it would still be very interesting you get more consistent levels throughout the photo period I’m pretty sure and I wonder how long one of those small bottles with the last or are you could get two or three days out of it if there was some way of holding the pressure back so you only release what you need some sort of in-line involve Keep up the good work
It costs $10 to fill up a 1L co2 tank that will last my 20g 6-7months. A bottle of sparkling water will go flat pretty quickly if you are constantly opening and closing it.
Hi there! From my understanding, anything that aids plant growth will also aid in algae growth. It's all about finding a good balance of co2+nutrients(waste or fertilizers or both)+light for your tank and each tank can differ greatly in needs.
The 70’s were good to me but I don’t remember the CO2 part. 🤣🤣Thanks MJ for keeping your content fun and real. As I said before, I have learned a lot from watching your channel. Cheers 🏄🏼♂️
How about making a hole in the bottlecap and connecting it to the tank via airline hose.. So the sparkling water is not getting in contact with the tank water but as the co2 is released it is forced through the airline hose and into the tank water bubbling out gradually.?
I have CO2 for my soda machine. So instead removing it and buying a regulator. Try making some soda with r/o. Which I drink all the time. But this time pouring soda water in the tank it pure water with co2 in it it should work. Will see.
a silly idea, what if you connect a bottle of co2 water the same way with a diy co2 setup. using the supply of co2 expelled by the sparkling water go through the system similar to the diy co2 through a diffuser. im just a beginner sooo i really have no idea what im really talking about but it was just a basic analysis.
maybe using a syringe will minimize the co2 lost to air when pouring and then adding a servo and raspberry pi to depress the syringe slowly throughout the day. bro what is the lily pipe and skimmer intake set on your tank beside your laptop? which brand? thanks!!
Co2 at a aquarium shop is expensive. I buy my co2 at a local supplier for bars and restaurants. The deposit for a canister is not cheap but I have to refill it less then 2 times a year. This makes the cost of co2 for my 500L discus tank less then €60,- a year. Bars use these to make their water sparkling but it doesn't add salt or other minerals.
My A.R. c leaves are curling iv been adding calcium but doesn't seem to help. Do you have any suggestions. I'm using aqua soil and lean liquid fertilizer dosing in a nano shrimp tank 3.5 gallon.
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Why didn't you try running airline tubing from the bottle to the tank with a cut off valve that can reduce or stop flow?
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Hi MJ,
I have been experimenting with sparkling water for 6 weeks now and I have been getting the same results as a high tech system; in half an hour my tank will be filled with oxygen bubbles.
However, I use a more efficient method and hence the better results. Firstly, I dose 1l of sparkling water per 200l of aquarium water, which is a lot higher than what you have experimented with. Any more and the fish do start breathing heavily, however in densely planted tanks, I can quite easily go for 2l of sparkling water per 200l of aquarium water without harming fish, snails or shrimp. I also redose 4 hours later to maximise the effect.
The other thing is that I do not unscrew the bottle cap like the way you did as doing so causes so much of the CO2 to escape. Instead I submerge the bottle into the tank and then punch a tiny hole with a needle into the bottom of it. This forces the CO2 to efficiently dissolve into the aquarium water. I have plenty of pictures and videos demonstrating the method and the results, but I cannot share them here in the comments, or at least I don't know how to.
As for minerals, then I wouldn't worry about that as they are too few to affect the parameters, but do read the label of the sparkling water bottle before buying.
Hey! I saw a video about your method! Good to hear it's working for you
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This is very interesting and I have to try it. I have a SodaStream machine at home, so don't have to worry about salts or addons, in fact, I can just used water prepped for water changes and inhect it with a bit of CO2.
Don't worry... Adding it in a limited quantity will not harm your fishes. But it will surely trigger good pearling in your plants... I tried this many times and it works 👍
Hi great Video,
i started my first nanotank 2 weeks ago and i keep injecting sparkling water from my sodastream and so far i am very happy with the results
It's about time we saw someone illustrate this. I've never used this method but always knew it would work. It would have been better if you tested the pH, KH and EC before and during the test period. The EC would have given some indication if the salts present in the bottled water were having any effect on the mineral content of the tank. Different brands of bottled water have different mineral content, therefore one can choose the brand which has the most compatible minerals. After all, many of these minerals are present in the fertilizers we add to the tank.
With the exorbitant price of sparkling mineral water (in UK) I suspect that, long-term, this would not be the most economical method of adding CO2.
Hi Mark, great experiment. The sparkling water will mainly be carbonic acid (reaction of co2 and water). Therefore, the drop checker will be measuring acidity of the water upon addition of carbonic acid my friend. The carbonic acid to co2 will be in equilibrium with each other depending on pH of the aquarium. Great seeing your videos.
To eliminate the problem of salts concentration, you can use a kitchen carbonator to saturate distilled water.
Recently and in the past I’ve used distilled water in a soda stream, it worked great and even with blue dream shrimp I added an entire 24 oz sometimes(in a 10 gallon). They didn’t like it for a minute but got used to it quickly, I did this once every while so definitely not regularly. Not to mention I recently added 4 bottles to a new tank which I saw scuds in, this is to suffocate them, along with adding algae fix overdose(kills shrimp so no shrimp were in the tank), which to my knowledge completely killed all scuds in the 5 gallon. But also saw insane pearling on all the leaves!
ik ben net begonnen met mijn eerste aquarium en het feit dat bijna al je tips bestaan uit LIDL producten maakt m'n leven ZOVEEL MAKKELIJKER
I use a 5ga CO2 tank with a soda regulator to make my own club soda in soda bottles. It lasts for 2 years and I drink a lot of soda water. I imagine if you use your aquarium water, fill a bottle 3/4 full, then squeeze out the excess air before attaching to soda hose, you will get some great results. Chilling the bottle of aquarium water to near freezing before adding CO2 should get even better results (cold water will accept more CO2). Make sure you cap it and warm it up before pouring into the tank. CO2 tank is cheap to refill at Airgas company, and I think I probably pay about 1 or 2 cents per soda when all costs are factored over 2 years. Currently don't have an aquarium, just doing my research first. Hope this helps.
why doesn't anybody say it?
-Your bottle should be kept cold in the refrigerator to stop CO2 from leaving the water.
(then, open and keep chilled)
-Also, have you ever poured (not so cold) beer into a room temperature plastic cup?...
all foam... = goodbye CO2 bubbles.
If you can pour a tiny shot from the cold bottle, it will be more effective... and will hardly chill the tank with such a tiny amount. -Cheers! (if you must measure a shot, use a chilled marked shot Glass)
EDIT: watched the remaining half of the video... Thx for sharing your experiments, especially the yeast-beast!
Your tanks are beautiful!
Mark great review, l use ice cubes for breeding Buenos Aires tetras. I tried sparkling water before, it did not end in major success for myself. Keep up the great work!
I would strongly advise checking the pH of any sparkling water (especially mineral water) before adding to an aquarium with fish. They are usually very acidic (pH 4-5). Also bad for your teeth if you drink large quantities.
Hi MJ. Seeing all your tanks and experiments have really inspired me. I am a newbie to a plant and shrimp tank with no CO2. I feel like this is already a challenge as I've already killed a lot of shrimp and plants. :(
I attached an inverted plastic gatorade bottle to my filter intake tube with plastic zip ties and directed a airline tubing into the mouth of the bottle. The other end of the airline tubing is attached to the injector of a Sodastream machine. I injected the CO2 from the sodastream into the inverted bottle until it pushed out all the water. The CO2 eventually gets absorbed by the aquarium water over the next few days and I recharge it with more CO2 from the sodastream. It works great. For larger planted aquariums, you can add a second bottle or use a larger plastic bottle. Plastic bottles with larger cap openings will increase the rate of CO2 absorption. Water bottles with smaller mouth openings are ideal for smaller tanks.
A liter of sparkling water should bring a 40-55 gallon up to around 20 ppm so it could be a useful tool for getting new plants to grow in during peak photosynthesis hours
To stop the sparkling water going flat you can use a Fizz Keeper, which is basically just a replacement lid that creates pressure.
"the moss has transformed quite a bit"
*shows aquarium with big text over the moss*
My bad 😂
You're one of the most interesting TH-camrs I've watched. I wish your tanks and plants well. I know since adding co2 my plants just started exploding.
FYI PH of the water correlates to your KH and CO2 levels. If you know how much CO2 is in your water you can calculate how much you need to put in your aquarium for it to be safe for the animals and good for the plants.
Btw I think when you are having a spray bar into your low tech aquarium; the drops that hits the water surface gives a really good mix to the water & gives good aeration which provides gases exchange in the tank; I see my plants pearling! I think for that and the more far the spray bar the more bubbles into the tank. I thought I could share this experience maybe it works, and could help others. Great experiment bro 👍🏼 keep it up; I have been using your diy into my new jungle tank and it works perfect but at the night i remove the hose from the tank because I worry for the fish 🥲
Yeah I'd like to use more spraybars they are definitely beneficial! Great to hear the CO2 is working!
Ooh sparkling water , I never heard of this experiment ! Really hoping that it is successful !
So far I have heard some positive things in the video !!
Love the effort and creativity you put into all your videos. A very unique channel. Thanks for sharing!
Ive been wanting to try this out of curiosity. Love this series of videos co2 vs non co2
Amazing results Mark.
Im going to set up a 30cm cube later, add plants,no livestock.
I’m going to purely fill the tank with Sparkling water, it’s cheap enough to try for a couple of weeks 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
Wondering what's going to happen! Definitely don't add any livestock and keep us posted!
mad man! Can't wait to see how it goes!
I want an update too :D
Just planting it up now, check updates on my Instagram
I have used club soda in approximately same proportions. It is only water and CO2. I also add chelated iron, and it caused good oxygen respiration. In the past ,I used yeast CO2 reactors. That is a two litre bottle with rigid pipe attached to a hose inserted into the intake pipe of filter.1.75 litres of 92 degree water 2 cups of sugar and one teaspoon of yeast. Lasts 2 or 3 weeks. Have to put a valve on pipe and turn off at night. I did not ,but never poisoned my fish that I know of.
Good little experiment nicely documented and presented.
Have you thought of doing an experiment using a Co2 bell ? There are videos on YT with people using this method but for me they seem to be inconclusive... I'm sure you would do a much better job 👍
Thanks for all your work 👍
Great suggestion! I might do a video on that in the future!
I once thought of trying a Co2 bell using Co2 from sparkling water fitting a cap with a feed pipe and valve so I could open the valve to fill the bell and then close off without losing gas from the bottle... It only got to be a thought though as then I decided to get a regulator/solenoid running off a Co2 fire extinguisher... A bell would be interesting for my other tanks.👍
Use a sodastreamer to make it more cheap, also you can do this and use your own tankwater
wanted to suggest the same thing. I wonder if that would work.
Also, i guess you could kinda drip-acclimate the tank with the sparkling water. If you have a bottle you can inject the co2 in the bottle, make a stand to put the bottle upside down above the tank, and drip-acclimate the sparkling water during the day, i guess you would have to refill the bottle every day but i guess it could be a solution
I did something similiar with a spare soda stream. I put tubing on the nozzle and used to to fill a diy passive diffuser i made out of a water bottle in the tank. Worked fairly well.
A carbonated drink usally have 6-8 gCo2/L. So that's 0,24-0,32 g Co2 added to the tank if you add 40ml.
A value between 20 and 25 mg Co2/L is usally ideal for an aquarium.
The tank is 20 liters so the concetration is 0,24/20 = 12 mg/L to 0,32/20 = 16mg/L.
So you get pretty close to that ideal cencentration of Co2 with this method but only directly after adding the sparkling water. After that the concetration probably decrease pretty rapidly.
Lets compare it to a sodastream bottle.
1l of sparkling water in my counry usally cost 1 euro. so thats 6-8g of Co2 per euro. A soda stream refil costs 8 euro and contain 400g of Co2. That's 50g Co2 per euro. So the conclusion is that you shouln't buy sparkling water.
That's the calculation I went with when I tried that on my no co2 tank. I could see bubbles forming on my leaves and nice growth for the 2 weeks that I did it.
I also tried adding vinegar to my aquarium for a while to lower ph. This results in co2 being produced too, but I'm not sure how much is produced.
I'm wondering how your parameters like gh/kh and ph changed as well
I have two comments: (1) it’s been my experience that different brands of sparkling water have different levels of carbonation. So it’s really difficult to judge how much sparkling water to use. (2) it seems to me that you lose a lot of the CO2 by opening the bottle, pouring the soda into a container, and the pouring the soda into the tank. I am experimenting adding CO2 by adding seltzer (pure water and CO2). I open a one liter bottle of seltzer just enough to release a small stream of bubbles into the tank. I invert the bottle in the tank and secure it to the side to keep the cap underwater. My plecostomus and MT snails have shown no sign of stress after three hours of infusion. So far the plants are showing no reaction.
Rest is when living things grow. Try longer night/dark periods with an air stone as plants use oxygen in the dark.
Nice video Marc.....I use nothing but citric and soda...in my opinion yeast is the cheapest but citric is the best diy method....
really educational experiment mark. the patience of you making this video is really admirable.
Next twin-scape project idea - " DIY lights vs Brand lights"
Outdoors lamps is a good contender to a brand light
U could use a household bulb to
Just maintain 3paraneters
Lumen 35per liter
Watts 0.5per liter
Kelvin 6500k
U can use havells 15 watt led for this setup
I enjoy this kind of experiment a lot. Very fun video and helpful for us budget tank owners!
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take an even bigger box around it filled with air, burn a candle in this space, and let it go out on its own, the water will absorb the co2 on its own, repeat every day, the bigger the box around it the more co2 the longer it takes for the candle to go out.
I am trying oxygen output so a candle can stay lit
If you don't how much sparkling water you have to add you can calculate it. My sparkling water at home has 7 g/l carbon dioxide. To make it easier 7000 mg/l. If your target is to have 35 mg/l you can use the formula c1*V1=c2*V2. c1= 7000 mg/l; V1= x l (we like to know); c2= 35mg/l (our carbon dioxide target); V2 = 55 l (my volume of aquarium). Then move the formula to V1= (c2*V2)/c1 = 0,275 l = 275 ml sparkling water. But as you said, if your permanent test is turning to blue again you have to add the full volume again? Or not? Well, I keep my little CO2-cylinder ;-) btw: you can calculate how many carbon dioxide you have added if you use 5 ml sparkling water ;-)
so maybe i'm wrong but doesn't co2 just slowly release from a bottle when it's opened? So what happens if you run a tube through the cap of a bottle (sealed with glue or something of sparkling water to a diffuser in your tank, would that add co2 to your tank water slowly?
It wouldn't build up enough pressure to force it through the diffuser
I did that according to what u thought and it works well. I used the mineral water and connect with air tubing with the diffusor. Viola. It works so good that i can even turn off at night by putting back the original cap that yeast and sugar cannot.
My CO2 system broke a couple days ago (O-Gasket crumbled, and it will take a couple of weeks to get a replacement). I have a CO2 charger that I use for making sparkling water for my own drinking pleasure. It would have the same salts, minerals, etc as the water I use for the tanks, and I should be able to dose it with a water conditioner before I use it in the tank. I'm home most days--thanks COVID--so I should be able to break up the doses. I think I'll try this just until my new CO2 system arrives. Hopefully it will tide over my fussier plants until then. Thanks for doing the experiment!
Nice experiment bro, just wondering when u put sparkling in your tanks,do we need to turn off co2 system?? Thanks
I think this is brilliant ,this the answers all along, about concerning salt material in sparkling water…what if neutralize it with oxygenic water or probiotics…I mean I kindda lazy myself to change water on my low tech tank..so every time I see the water condition blur or so many amoniac on the surface..I just poured it much and in a few minutes ahead the water becomes clear again…
have you tried fermenting wine in a bottle airlock system or Mixing vinegar and baking soda? capture in a test tube 🧪 and suction cup upside down in the aquarium? I enjoy your videos
I think 5ml is 20 liters is not that much. You are effectively diluting the sparkling water 1:4000. Indeed, around 40ml or more would seem much more effective to get the tank water carbonated.
Ik voeg soms wat Spa Rood toe aan mijn aquarium. Spa waters hebben het laagste gehalte aan mineralen van de in Nederland verkochte bronwaters, Spa Rood heeft een droogrest van slechts 47 mg per liter. Dat is ongeveer het gewicht van 2 waterdruppels dus daar hoef je je geen zorgen over te maken. Ter vergelijking: kraanwater met een hardheid van 5 dH, wat helemaal niet veel is, bevat alleen al 89 mg per liter aan kalkvormende deeltjes. Het is natuurlijk wel zo dat een continue afgifte van CO2 middels een doseersysteem beter is dat in één keer een flinke hoeveelheid toevoegen en dan weer een tijd niets. Voor mijn vissen en garnalen maakt het niet uit, behalve als ze toevallig door zo'n "wolk" van Spa Rood zwemmen die nog niet goed is gemend, dan schrikken ze heel erg. Ik denk dat dat komt omdat Spa Rood erg zuur is door de grote hoeveelheid koolzuur dat daarin is opgelost. De pH van Spa Rood is ongeveer 3,8 las ik. CO2 wordt onder druk aan Spa water toegevoegd, vandaar dat er belletjes CO2 opstijgen als je de dop losdraait. Hetzelfde geld voor bier en cola. CO2 reageert met water tot koolzuur: CO2 + H2O --> H2CO3. Dit is een evenwicht, de reactie kan ook de andere kant opgaan: H2CO3 --> CO2 + H2O. Koolzuur heet niet voor niets koolZUUR omdat het een zuur is: H2CO3 --> H+ + HCO3- (H+ is een proton en hoe hoger de concentratie protonen in water, hoe zuurder het is; pH is direct gerelateerd aan de concentratie protonen, daar staat de H voor in pH). In tegenstelling tot CO2 kan zuurstof (O2) niet reageren met water en dus alleen in water oplossen en "helaas" voor al het waterleven lost zuurstof slecht op in water. Maar het waterleven is daarop aangepast.
Droogijs is vast CO2 dat bij kamertemperatuur gelijk overgaat in gasvormig CO2. Op zich is het een zuivere vorm van CO2 en goed bruikbaar voor het aquarium maar niet praktisch, want hoe voeg je het toe? Als je zo'n brokje droogijs in je aquarium gooit, zal het voor >99% veranderen in gas en dan gewoon in de lucht verdwijnen in plaats van op te lossen in het aquariumwater want ook CO2 lost net als O2 slecht op in water. En die grote gasbellen CO2 die je ziet als je zo'n brokje droogijs in je aquarium gooit, helpen ook niet. Vandaar dat die CO2 dispensors juist van die hele fijne belletjes afgeven, want die lossen wel snel op in water. Een van de meeste elegante low-tech systemen n.m.m. die ik op TH-cam heb gezien wordt getoond in deze video: th-cam.com/video/rg1u-XVMU3Q/w-d-xo.html (skip naar 8.00 minuten). In plaats van zo'n lelijke plastic fles kun je natuurlijk ook een mooie glazen fles o.i.d. gebruiken in je aquarium. Ik ben overigens geen expert in CO2 systemen hoor maar ik vind het wel leuk om te zien wat hobbyisten allemaal verzinnen.
This is actually quite nice if you co2 bottle is empty and cant get a refill within a couple of days.
dat geen goedkoop boek!! erg mooi!!
There’s a DIY bottle method product made by a few different companies that costs around $40usd and it even has a solenoid shutoff valve and overpressure protection. If you have a couple of 2 liter bottles laying around, this is by far the cheapest method to safely inject CO2.
Link?
What a creative idea
I've just started to use a co2 generator and it seems to me to be the most cost effective.
carbonated water usually contains more salt than regular water, salt does not evaporate, so if you keep adding carbonated water, the water will get salty... if you just want to use the CO2 from the soda water or any carbonated water, just add a cap with a small tube on it to the bottle like in yoru DIY co2 bottles, that way, the CO2 escapes from the soda, through the tube in your aquarium. but as you can imagine, this will only work untill the soda is flat.
Interesting. I would like to improve the growth of my moss, but still a little wary of the tanks general health. Maybe direct dosing moss like one would dose excel on bba on anubias?
what if you open a fresh bottle any morning anyways? would you just give it a sip?
Do you have any good ideas for a 3 gallon nano cherry shrimp tank for co2?
I used the sparkling water similar to yeast and sugar by connecting with an airline tubing with a diffusor. So, i think its similar to diy as the co2 only comes out without impacting the water parameters and closed with original cap after the lights are off . So, i thought its better than yeast and baking soda that cannot turn off during nights? I am not sure since its just day 2.
If this method works better than no CO2 at all, what I'm wondering is could someone not produce and sell a 'sparkling water' specifically for aquariums which lacks the minerals and salts but is carbonated. We know that adding CO2 all at once isn't as good as having CO2 throughout the photoperiod, but if a co2 spike is better than a control of no CO2 at all, then it seems to me like this method would work for at least some people. Compared with the 'bottled CO2' products this at least seems somewhat effective.
I agree ... 100.
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Great video as always Mark! Your content is always so informative and entertaining! I might be trying dyi co2 in the future!
Hey MJ, great video experiment. I'll try it later for my nano moss tank. And i think you should try experiment with candles or lantern next. Since buring will produce carbon dioxide. Hopefully you'll cover up the video and would like to see the outcome. Thanks MJ.
Make sure it’s flavorless and free of colors, fruity tastes or sugars - they will be snuck in, depending on the brand, so read labels. I almost did this myself, years ago, until I noticed I had bought lemon sparkling h2o. Great, uggghhh
Also I’m not sure of the effect of the sodium chloride on the overall tank? From time to time I’ve added a pinch of aquarium salt or sea salt, just for overall health, pests parasites etc. not something I did every water change at all. But I don’t know really about sodium chloride. Thanks again for your videos.
I love your Mythbusters aquarium experiments. 👍😄
Love these co2 videos
This was a super interesting experiment, so cool, keep up the great work Mark!
Could u use the sparkling water in a diy canister co2 set up? The regulator should slow down the loss of the co2
Interesting question. I would also like an answer to this if anyone knows
Just a thought... could you add some airline tubing to the lid of the sparkling water bottle like you do in your home-made co2 setups and allow the co2 to escape without adding the water? (would that even work?)
yeah
Hmm interesting thought! Not sure if that would work, would there be enough pressure for the CO2 to travel through the tubing?
@@MJAquascaping if shaken properly, probably. Still wouldn't be cheap.
I think it would work but only with a co2 reactor that way u just need some weak pressure
What if you suspended the sparkling water upside down above the tank with a bit of airline tubing and a valve running a constant drip feed into the filter outflow? You’d have to have a water bottle lid with the airline tube drilled and adequately sealed to swap with the normal bottle cap but I think it would work?
Hey I've been bouncing around to a bunch of your videos.. I noticed you mentioned snails. Still searching for an answer.. Almost think it could be its own video? How do you feel about snails in open top aquariums? You mention you have them. And I believe all of your tanks are open top. Any stories or tips about this?
I guess a soda streamer with water you would add to your tank anyway would be better, then? If one person is set on using this method. I assume keeping it chilled will maintain more co2 in the water as well. (If you have a soda streamer but can't afford an adapter for the canister)
A next experiment I'd recommend about co2 is pressurised (obviously) vs an air stone
All the gas exchange doesn't only help the aquarium stay oxygenated, but if a tank is short on dissolved co2, an air stone should help it Absorb some of the 0.04 percent available in our air
when you bubble air (containing 400 ppm of CO2) through your tank, the CO2 gas will dissolve in the water depending on pH and temperature until the equilibrium concentration (about 5 ppm) is reached. This means you maintain a stable CO2 concentration, which is still enough for most of the plants.
Lol I actually thought about this randomly yesterday "what if you add sparkling water to the aquarium for CO2" and low and behold, people actually tried it. I did know it was going to work, taking it logically, but just as I also thought, there are too many downsides to it. I'll stick to the CO2 cannisters :D I could potentially see this working only if you do it for an exclusively plant-only aquarium
Guess I can try using a little bit of it once in a while, like I would a fertilizer.
Usually bottled water and sparkling water are filled with minerals, does that chas an impact on the water parameters?
Maybe buying a cheap second hand soda stream might be a good idea? Thanks for the video.
Fantastic idea
I think you can pour the Sparkling Water to the DIY CO2 bottle instead of using yeast. The CO2 can leak out of liquid phase in time and then you"ll get CO2 in your diffuser. Combining the two methods should be okay I think
I’d guess there wouldn’t be enough pressure
Really excellent experiment 🧪 I had never thought about that, another awesome experiment in aqua scaping. Thanks for sharing 👍✌️
I wonder if you can hang it upside down and do a slow drip feed.
Should I add water conditioner in the sparkling water first?
Is it safe for fishes in the tank?
Hey, i have a question. Have you ever seen an inline fertilizer that goes to the filter outline hose? Want to keep the tank clean with as little stuff visual. Thank you
Yes I have! I think this guy can make it www.co2reactor.nl/
What if you just have a drip mechanism?
Geweldig en lekker goedkoop ga ik uitproberen hoorr
Thank so much for doing this although please do this again without the water changes, that kinda defeats the purpose of the test.
In your DIY system you use water, sukker, yeast and gelatin. You said it takes about 24 hours before it produces CO2. I don’t know anything about chemistry so this might be a really silly question, but is there a reason a bottle of coke or any other soda can’t be used? I mean the water, sugar and CO2 is already there, so if you add the yeast and gelatin, could that work or would it just explode 😅
I love these experiments be interested to see what results you get from the Ofgas from the bottles if you could recoup some sort of later on the bottle to a bubbler in the aquarium. I know it will be a little bit of messing around but it would still be very interesting you get more consistent levels throughout the photo period I’m pretty sure and I wonder how long one of those small bottles with the last or are you could get two or three days out of it if there was some way of holding the pressure back so you only release what you need some sort of in-line involve Keep up the good work
This method works great. At least if your goal is to greate more plastic waste.
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Excelente video, aprendí mucho, gracias por tu tiempo.
It costs $10 to fill up a 1L co2 tank that will last my 20g 6-7months. A bottle of sparkling water will go flat pretty quickly if you are constantly opening and closing it.
Hello, does green algae also benefit from a spike in CO2?
Hi there! From my understanding, anything that aids plant growth will also aid in algae growth. It's all about finding a good balance of co2+nutrients(waste or fertilizers or both)+light for your tank and each tank can differ greatly in needs.
pretty sure yes!
The 70’s were good to me but I don’t remember the CO2 part. 🤣🤣Thanks MJ for keeping your content fun and real. As I said before, I have learned a lot from watching your channel. Cheers 🏄🏼♂️
Can you put a small chunk of dry ice into a sealed bottle with a let off valve to slowly release the built up co2???
How about making a hole in the bottlecap and connecting it to the tank via airline hose.. So the sparkling water is not getting in contact with the tank water but as the co2 is released it is forced through the airline hose and into the tank water bubbling out gradually.?
I have CO2 for my soda machine. So instead removing it and buying a regulator. Try making some soda with r/o. Which I drink all the time. But this time pouring soda water in the tank it pure water with co2 in it it should work. Will see.
a silly idea, what if you connect a bottle of co2 water the same way with a diy co2 setup. using the supply of co2 expelled by the sparkling water go through the system similar to the diy co2 through a diffuser. im just a beginner sooo i really have no idea what im really talking about but it was just a basic analysis.
maybe using a syringe will minimize the co2 lost to air when pouring and then adding a servo and raspberry pi to depress the syringe slowly throughout the day. bro what is the lily pipe and skimmer intake set on your tank beside your laptop? which brand? thanks!!
Co2 at a aquarium shop is expensive. I buy my co2 at a local supplier for bars and restaurants. The deposit for a canister is not cheap but I have to refill it less then 2 times a year. This makes the cost of co2 for my 500L discus tank less then €60,- a year. Bars use these to make their water sparkling but it doesn't add salt or other minerals.
amazing testing. always get best information from you legend. goldy
My A.R. c leaves are curling iv been adding calcium but doesn't seem to help.
Do you have any suggestions. I'm using aqua soil and lean liquid fertilizer dosing in a nano shrimp tank 3.5 gallon.
Interesting video! The entire CO2 vs no CO2 is very interesting to me.