Crime Prevention: Community March for Peace, Unity and Security in Vilcabamba, Ecuador 🇪🇨

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  • @paolatutiven9209
    @paolatutiven9209 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People from Vilcabamba, you must apply the indigenous justice, this what makes a huge difference between the Coast and the Sierra of Ecuador.

  • @LeonsoRubio
    @LeonsoRubio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    No se dejen vencer por la delincuencia unidos despiertos tomando precaucion ayudandose mutuamente no se confien no de chance ni un segundo para que los delincuentes tengan oportunidad, cuiden mucho a nuestros ciudadanos extranjeros que aman nuestro pais que eligieron ese bello lugar para hacer su casa tambien su pais

  • @mikeA2010
    @mikeA2010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Hey Carl! I was involved in the neighborhood watch program in Los Angeles, Ca. Do some research on it. In my zone we had 12 "watchmen" each with a walkie talkie and reported to each other when there was someone suspicious about. We coordinated with a Senior Lead Officer with the LAPD and had his cell phone on speed dial. Those neighborhoods that participated in this program knocked down all types of crime quickly. Former LAPD Chief William Bratton instituted "The broken window policy." Look it up. He invented this concept in NYC then brought it to L.A. We started with signs nailed to telephone poles on every street "This is a neighborhood watch zone, etc" Also you can buy some fake security cameras real cheap, and place them in strategic places. Zero tolerance towards graffiti...we had it always painted over within 24 hours. Many aspects of the above can absolutely work in (your much smaller than L.A.) community.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thanks for sharing Mike! One of Malcolm Gladwell’s books covered broken window theory… I’m familiar!

    • @JimmyDew_
      @JimmyDew_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great advice ❤

  • @Alancito1957
    @Alancito1957 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Well done Carl. Thanks for being the responsible one. It’s important to inform people of the truth

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching! Who are you alluding to isn’t “a responsible one?”

  • @bobgala5867
    @bobgala5867 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is very bold of you to post this for people like myself considering relocating to Vilcabamba. Rather than scaring me off, it has actually increased my desire to experience Vilcabamba. The sense of community that is always mentioned on this channel is clearly demonstrated here.
    I understand that many in your community felt insulated from the issues of cartels and crime. that is prevailing in other areas of Ecuador. Despite the ruthlessness and immorality of these gangs, they have unfortunately provided income to thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of families. Addressing this issue will require a determined and persistent effort against these criminals. However, it’s equally important to develop opportunities throughout Ecuador to diminish the allure of criminal activities as a means of earning a livelihood. There has to be a replacement of that money from honest means. If not, this cycle will persist, trust will be lost, and fear will prevail. That sense of community that seems to be a source of great pride in Vilcabamba will wither and be ever so difficult to revive.
    Be well and good luck. Thank you, Karl, for shedding light on all sides of life in Vilcabamba.

    • @mrfish1051
      @mrfish1051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. The persistance is very important. Tocache and Uchiza , 2 towns in the upper amazon region were took over by small drug lords. While countries as Colombia or Mexico failed , Peru took action and defeated them. Now both towns replaced coca leaves for cacao and coffee pineapple , etc. This happened 30 years ago. Colombian gangs are in Peru producing that white substance , deep , very deep in the jungle Unfortunately USA stopped suporting airplane interdiction and technology for taking down narco-colombian-planes. DEA and USAID were doing great job in the past time too, but now US help is almost zero.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for sharing your perspective and insight! Folks may not always agree with us, but we’re always going to share our honest perspective on what’s happening regardless of how it’s perceived. We won’t let ourselves become the 6pm news though… Hopefully that authenticity is received by those that are open to or need to see it! ❤️ 🇪🇨 🙏

    • @mayi757
      @mayi757 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mrfish1051the US is under a dictatorship right now basically, and an ally of cr iminals

  • @dianamayfield5615
    @dianamayfield5615 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you, Carl, for sharing this. Please keep us informed as to when and what progress is made. Quite honestly, I have been planning for years on making Vilcabamba my home and in fact scheduled my move several months ago, but after hearing of the major increase of needless violence, especially against gringos, I postponed my move and have been considering other areas. Once again, thank you.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for watching! This is a special community… united they will rise. You already know that Diana. Take your time! Faith over fear! ❤️ 🙏

  • @thomashobson9433
    @thomashobson9433 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great Move Vilcabamba ! We were in Vilcabamba in 2012 - 2013 - 2014 for a few month each year. We felt safe and enjoyed the people and the land. What you are doing is very important for everyone in the community. Blessings to your efforts.

  • @karlweiss7560
    @karlweiss7560 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Concerning...

  • @Mtnshell56
    @Mtnshell56 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for this information Carl. I had heard about these things recently on a different channel. It's really good that you have brought this to light, not only for the benefit of others, but for the integrity and the reliability of the information that we receive on this TH-cam channel. Thank you again. Blessings to you all and all the best in your efforts to restore peace to Vilcabamba

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the kind words… you may disagree with our opinions (many do) but you can always trust that we tell it like it is from our perspective! And we’ll continue to do so no matter what’s happening! ❤️ 🙏

  • @westcoastkitties
    @westcoastkitties 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What the woman said at the end is so true., and it works both ways. Immigrants and locals need to see each other as neighbours. Unfortunately I have heard that many immigrants don’t mix with the locals and viceversa. It breaks my heart to see this happening in the world. Up here in Canada isn’t different, we have had few stabbings in the past few months. Really sad.
    God protect all of you. Y para mi gente de Ecuador, por favor sigan ayudando y protegiendo a los inmigrantes ya que su hogar es ahora Ecuador. Especialmente a la gente mayor. No permitan que los delincuentes hieran a nadie y si lo hacen, pues atraparlos y DARLES SU LECCIÓN !

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many locals do see the immigrants as neighbors here and vise versa. It’s like anything though… not all immigrants are upstanding(regardless of which country they’ve immigrated from). The local community is strong and appears united to stand against these crimes… time will tell… faith over fear! ❤️ 🙏

  • @leedsbutler3567
    @leedsbutler3567 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I’m planning on traveling to Ecuador October 1 - March 30. Vilcabamba is my primary destination. Seems to be such a beautiful place. If all goes well I may move there permanently. However these events are concerning. I hope authorities can find those responsible so people can feel safe.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Faith over fear… ❤️ 🙏

    • @sandraherbst6582
      @sandraherbst6582 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      In the 4 corners robbery the victim just came back from selling crypto currency and he had $25k in cash when he got home. Some bandit knew this. The victim also left all his doors open and gate unlocked. You have to be smarter than that!!!

    • @JimmyDew_
      @JimmyDew_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@sandraherbst6582 well, that's not good.

    • @leedsbutler3567
      @leedsbutler3567 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sandraherbst6582 I appreciate the details. I wish I knew more so I could make a more informed decision. And I’m still not sure how often this kind of thing happens….

    • @sandraherbst6582
      @sandraherbst6582 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@leedsbutler3567 It happens everywhere!

  • @michellemariposa7253
    @michellemariposa7253 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi everyone
    I am relieved to see the local community, local officials & the expat community coming together in force to strategize, come up with solutions to prevent these awful crimes & assaults from being committed. After some searching on the internet, i found out what happened a few weeks ago in June & was shocked. For sure these are gangs from outside of Ecuador that are coming through & targeting people. I have full faith that they will all be caught & justice will be served🙏🏼🙏🏼
    This will not deter me from moving there & living in this beautiful place. This is a test. Like Jesse said Faith over fear.💛

  • @evolving5215
    @evolving5215 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    🙏 blessing!! We can do it 🙌

  • @Sheriffjohnson
    @Sheriffjohnson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful ❤🙏🏻

  • @denisealford8677
    @denisealford8677 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you Abundant Living for posting this!

  • @rr6013
    @rr6013 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sad day for the community, Vilcabamba residents and expats who love living there. More of a shock to those hearts set on retiring to Vilcabamba, opening businesses or didn’t plan on security as a fact of life in Vilcabamba - I knew it not immune but neither rampant violence with all its local influences. Ecuador has either been invaded by outlaws seeking property under duress, rent-seeking banditos or desperados and the latter I hope not.
    Kudos to Carl, “Abundant” crew for live coverage and interview context bumper. Great dedication and action all around!
    Local probs here in Panama quelched with privateex-Seal interdiction in adobes really put the word out and policing check points carded every vehicle in-out and people did prison time - stemmed growth.
    The Tijuana solution evolved high walled compound for several homes inside, guard shack and 24/7/365 live-ammo private guards.
    LA solution was Viet guns rootop - that ended Chino robbery
    best wishes

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The events are tragic no doubt … but it was actually an uplifting day for the community, not a sad day! Faith over fear! ❤️ 🙏

  • @joel6427
    @joel6427 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You need intel. Establish a no-questions-asked telephone number like El Salvador did. Somebody knows who the criminals are and will do the right thing as long as they can remain anonymous.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great suggestion! ❤️ 🙏

    • @Sheriffjohnson
      @Sheriffjohnson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joel6427 - when I was sheriff I implemented this strategy. Someone called our hotline number. A number was assigned to that person and the area they are our eyes and ears

  • @carolkinne5437
    @carolkinne5437 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well done! I will be at the next one, for sure!!

  • @mrfish1051
    @mrfish1051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Tourist and expats are priority here. Natasha Crombrugghe a young belgium woman get lost at huge Colca Canyon. Policia de montaña , TV journalism , newspapers , mayors , private montañistas , dogs , drones , coordination with Belgiun Embassy , etc working together. She felt down. It took a lot of time finding her body , but finally was found. we showed respect and condolence for her lovely family.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So sorry to hear about Natasha! The culture is beautiful in our region as well! I have faith in 🇪🇨! ❤️ 🙏

    • @mrfish1051
      @mrfish1051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AbundantLivingEcuador I share your faith in Ecuador. Noboa was here and was backef up by Dina an Mayor of Lima Rafael Lopez Aliaga.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      👊 ❤️ 🙏

  • @00vTv00
    @00vTv00 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a wise decision by the Vilcabamba authorities to quickly address security concerns. Word travels quickly and bad press can ruin entire regions just like the situation in Manabi areas due to drugs and violence against innocent people.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The community really is uniting to stand against this! ❤️ 🙏

  • @Magic_10001
    @Magic_10001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And one more question @abundant living. With the disturbances with gangs and some foreigners fleeing, are you noticing property price drops or people much more willing to negotiate? I am still very interested in Vilca but I think it got very expensive in recent years, compared to other parts of the country.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The market is generally slower here. The velocity of transactions has slowed some but it’s never a rapid turnover, high volume market in the first place. The beauty here is that negotiation is built in to the culture so most sellers are flexible. Some may be more flexible now.

  • @DavidAyotte-p5u
    @DavidAyotte-p5u 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Important video . Mucho respect to Vilcabamba and Abundant Living . Shining the light on the positive. And Blasting the light on the negative. Live in Cuenca. Just got back from a tour of the coast. { buses and taxis ) New motorcycle arrived. Next trip Vllcabamda. Assume i'll be relativity safe. I have been to places that look sketchy by USA midwestern standards. But always treated extremely well. USA driving privileges have expired ( working on that ) If I decide to take a bus. Is there a scooter rental available for exploring ? Salinas had some. Gracias

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and for the feedback! Send us a note to info@abecuador.com and we’re happy to help where we can! When do you anticipate visiting?

    • @DavidAyotte-p5u
      @DavidAyotte-p5u 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AbundantLivingEcuador I have just up graded to a new motorcycle. Working on a Ecuador drivers license. The policia in Cuenca have been very understanding so far.Hopefully soon. Thanks for reaching out!

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍

  • @Gerardo-b9l
    @Gerardo-b9l 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sad to see that this is happening. Vilca was so calm when i was there in january 2024 😢

  • @mrfish1051
    @mrfish1051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    We should see what Peru's been doing the last 20 years to control crimes , actually one of the lowest homicide rate per 100k people (6), versus Mexico 24 , Colombia 26 , Ecuador 44 , Uruguay 12 .

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What are they specifically doing? Homicide rates per capita are misleading when analyzing the entire country. More granular data tells a more clear picture.

    • @mrfish1051
      @mrfish1051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@AbundantLivingEcuadorPNP has specialized divisones , example DIPROVE for car stealing or DIRCOTE against terrorism. DIRILA for money laundry . More info coming ....

    • @mrfish1051
      @mrfish1051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​besides regular police , organized private police hired by mayors across the country SERENAZGO ..... Most members of serenazgo are trained using regular police procedures following regulations and support by law. Serenazgo could be exmembers of army or similar careers

    • @mrfish1051
      @mrfish1051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@AbundantLivingEcuadororganized inter-action among serenazgos called SERENAZGO SIN FRONTERAS. Working in coordination with PNP ...... Plan CERCO for caughting criminals .....

    • @mrfish1051
      @mrfish1051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@AbundantLivingEcuadorTV and newspaper journalism is key factor. Delincuentes are shown full face , receiving denuncias policiales , helping victims to be listened , showing bad police for being kick out of PNP.

  • @joshuacarpenter4477
    @joshuacarpenter4477 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why hasn't Abundant Living started a crime fighting team? Carl can walk shirtless on the street with a baseball bat next to his trusty sidekick Brandon and Jesse can mastermind the logistics from his hammock. You could use The Final Countdown as a theme song

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣

    • @joshuacarpenter4477
      @joshuacarpenter4477 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm kidding. But this is concerning. I'm surprised private security with regular patrolling hasn't been used. Sounds like police are bribed/complacent. Hope this gets sorted out soon.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The local community is amazing… I have faith this will be handled. 🙏 ❤️

    • @joshuacarpenter4477
      @joshuacarpenter4477 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@AbundantLivingEcuador Nah dude. From what I'm hearing, there's only a handful of officers and they're not following up on police reports. Meanwhile, they're pestering gringos for cedulas in the town's square. That recent event with the lady and her husband is extremely disturbing. Hopefully locals and expats can come up with a decent plan. Even having Brandon walk around at night shouting "woo!" like Ric Flair is a better idea than hoping the police will do their jobs.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah dude. We live here bruh. But thanks for thinking you know better! You’ve earned a stone cold stunner when we meet!

  • @Magic_10001
    @Magic_10001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @abundant living.
    Was wondering if recent events has actually effected your day to day living? I.e. you are now taking more security precautions/ not going out at night etc. or is it more the case, yes, this is a bit concerning but pretty much your day to day lives are the same as before?

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You nailed it with the latter… it’s definitely concerning and it’s great to see the local community uniting to combat this…but I’m still going out at night, day to day unchanged, ect.

    • @Magic_10001
      @Magic_10001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AbundantLivingEcuador awesome thanks for answering both 🙏

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and engaging!

    • @michellemariposa7253
      @michellemariposa7253 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can anyone inform me of what specific events have occurred over the last few weeks? Was there a specific event? Trying to find out . Thsnk you

  • @ECPhoenix
    @ECPhoenix 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Ladrón agarrando será linchado.” What a shame… They should go up a notch and say “ladrón agarrado será quemado.” Then we’ll see changes in our community’s safety

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is precisely what the sign at the first second of the video says. This is the sign that was held at the very front of the march the whole time.

    • @darrenbullman9450
      @darrenbullman9450 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So what's in place to help reduce these?
      Are they coming from outside, organised, opportunists, local ??

    • @Mtnshell56
      @Mtnshell56 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe the video spoke in depth about measures being put in place to help increase security.

  • @Jettie-h9o
    @Jettie-h9o 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WoW how Times have changed, Reminds Me of When I Was a Young Man and Negros Were Marching For their Civil Rights in the United
    Vaya, cómo han cambiado los tiempos, me recuerda cuando yo era joven y los negros marchaban por sus derechos civiles en los Estados Unidos.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching!

    • @mayi757
      @mayi757 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Y ahora son ellos la gran mayoría arruinando USA con delincuencia

  • @susanaware5121
    @susanaware5121 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's very sad that the crime is expanding to all regions

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ❤️ 🇪🇨 🙏

    • @rvdareyet7201
      @rvdareyet7201 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s getting really bad here in Manta.

  • @loretoendara310
    @loretoendara310 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how this has more views than any other crime that has occurred in Ecuador?

  • @KETE...
    @KETE... 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Permitan que los lugareños echen a los "extranjeros" que no son realmente víctimas de su gobierno, son gente que han venido a socializar drogas y prácticas de criminalidad, me refiero a los venezolanos que son militares infiltrados, reciben mensualmente dinero del gobierno venezolano, drogas, criptomonedas y otros productos, tienen que hacer como en Riobamba, Otavalo, Uds. son bienvenidos, el pueblo sabe quiénes vienen por vivir bien, en tranquilidad y quienes quieren socializar delincuencia y drogas.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gracias por compartirlo... ha ocurrido esto donde vives?

  • @proyectonuevo7487
    @proyectonuevo7487 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They must create a toll that is at the entrance of the road that leads to Vilcabamba, a toll with guards that way you control who among whom leaves as a sentry box for the entire town

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting idea - thanks for sharing! ❤️ 🙏

  • @samuelgonzales3824
    @samuelgonzales3824 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With the criminals being the only ones having weapons, it will be difficult to deter the behavior. My wife is from Quevedo and they are having a hard time dealing with the same problem. Ecuador needs to look at the big picture here and fight fire with fire.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Immigrants and locals also have firearms… maybe those being targeted do not. Self defense laws in Ecuador are also different… we’ve heard locals discuss tribal justice though… Thanks for watching Samuel!

  • @mariadavis3797
    @mariadavis3797 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I guess you’re no longer promoting Ecuador as a retirement destination? Vilcabamba is not an exception just joining the trend of the rest of the country,

    • @ecuadorhusker2449
      @ecuadorhusker2449 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ecuador is still ranked a tio destination for retirement Dont let fear stop from coming down. I live on the coast, yes different area but super safe here.

    • @AbundantLivingEcuador
      @AbundantLivingEcuador  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ecuador isn’t for most people… we say that all the time! We still love it and have faith in the community. We share what this place is from our perspective in an authentic way. It either resonates with you or it doesn’t. ❤️ 🙏

  • @carolynmendoza1934
    @carolynmendoza1934 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a safe, 2 BR apartmemt for rent for only $250/mo.

  • @contingencywoman8550
    @contingencywoman8550 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Something to consider: You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you're capable of violence. I know this this is a difficult concept to digest but from a criminal's point of view if you're not prepared to defend yourself you're not peaceful, you're harmless!
    It's an important distinction and something I hope the expat community in the Vilca-Malacatos area is able to understand and is willing to take to heart.
    Criminals prefer unarmed victims. The previous president of Ecuador made it easier to legally defend oneself in Ecuador. A strong stance could be very helpful in deterring criminals from perceiving Vilca as an easy target full of "peaceful" well to do expats ripe for home invasion and violent robbery. Just a thought.

  • @proyectonuevo7487
    @proyectonuevo7487 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deben crear una garita al ingreso de la parroquia vilcabamba el ingreso por la calle principal que ingresa a vilcabamba debe haber un peaje una garita grande dónde pueden controlar quién entra y quién sale