I skated a lot from like 13-16. Was decent. Started again at 33 and way better just from literally understanding the physics of the board and simple tricks like this video. Keep it up Tom!
Lol, why is it always people that ride Indys that are like this? They always think that they know best and that Independents are the only truck in the world. Don't get me wrong I like Indys myself, I have a set of 159 standards on an 8.5 traffic deck. They turn great and probably better than thunders. However, I do prefer my Thunder 151s on my 8.6 New Deal reissue. The pinch just feels so much better for this skater and the turning isn't bad at all. I find it much easier to hold fs Crooked grinds and the manual point is just where i want it. There is more than one good truck company in this world and taste is very subjective. But it's always the "fUcK tHe ReST" Indy riders that talk shit and act like there is only one good truck in the world. It is super fucking annoying.
Schmitz says to add a washer to the bottom to not have blow outs. I haven’t tried it yet. But I’ve never had an issue. I ride ventures & just add Indy bushing. Indy bushings are the best along with doh doh’s. When I skated Thunder those bushing were okay.
Great tip on reusing the bushings, thanks! I was riding the ACE-AF1 with their hard bushings swapped in for about a year or so. Really love those but right now I am riding the stage 4 indy. Great turning and feel right out the gate but they don't grind as smoothly as the ACEs do...may have to go back to those.
What’s really crazy is that I’m pretty sure you’re using an ace top bushing on the bottom because ace bottom bushings are barrel shaped. But what matters is that it works good!
Man what tripped me out the most and that I thought I was the only one that does that to the trucks checks every detail because it’s very very important and I’m getting back on the board again trynna stay consistent. Props on you !! Keep shredding!!!
I had bent axles on every pair of thunders I have skated. That is way I switched to ventures and those are a bit higher but feel so much better. Also ventures need a few sessions for grooves to grind better but in my opinion those are the best. And I have ridden almost every single trucks company
oh damn! thats crazy to hear, ive been skating thunders for ever and this never happened to me...or at least not this bad and i didnt notice haha... im glad you found what works for you! THANKS for watching !
@@DR_Rhomboid_Goatcabin yeah sure but still not the same truck. I had also axle slips with each pair of thunders but not with ventures. Also I like the turn of thunders more than of any other truck company
I live in Finland 🇫🇮 and the most annoying thing during the fall/spring seasons was the bushings freezing.. my friend recommended bones mediums and that solved the problem in a heartbeat!🤩
Brooo over winter I've had so many problems with my trucks. I skate them pretty tight, just enough to where if you lean you can turn, but they're pretty tight aside from that. I exploded a bushing trying to treflip this side drop at my local indoor, and had trouble figuring out my setup again. I skate hollow thunder lows, with stock bushings. Everything about your trucks is so pivotal to your skating, a lot of people don't realize how everything is impacted by even the slightest difference. Love the content, your insight into breaking in your setup is super helpful!
yup! dude im telling you, maybe try bones bushings for the cold weather, maybe the bones hard bushings since you like them tighter...they dont have as many issues in the cold! glad you found the vid helpful! THANKS for watching !
8:00 gotta try that, german winters are hard, too. I‘m riding Thunders currently since january for the first time in like 10 years. The stock bushings really suck when it is colder compared to Indys, but now that it gets warmer I really like them.
also got a new pair of thunder 148s after skating 147s for forever. skated new ones loose for 2 weeks before i tightened them and that helped. now they’re perfect. didn’t think to use my old bushings, gotta try that if i move up to 149’s bc lately i like skating 8.5’s now. used to skate 8.38 and 8.25s.
Breaking in trucks is annoying, especially if you need new bushings. As you mentioned, the thunder bushings become extremely hard in the cold weather which is a big issue if you are someone who is on the lighter side regarding weight. Also, I really enjoy watching your videos. I think its awesome to hear from a legitimate pro skaters thoughts on small or big issues in skateboarding.
Hello from Taiwan! Found out your own TH-cam channel lately and I quite enjoy the content you’ve brought up, I like how casual and how real your videos are! Please keep it coming, definitely one of the best skate videos these days🫡🫡🫡🫡
I love trucks that have a slimmer axle. I usually ride Krux 8.25 trucks on a 8.125 board. When I get new trucks the only thing that I'm doing is switching the cushions. I hate the new cushion feeling so I just get my old ones onto my new trucks and bam I'm good to go
You and I do a lot of the same stuff with the trucks. I would count the exposed threads in my kingpin though. I also try and wait till the winter to set new trucks to avoid blowing out my bushings. If I couldn’t switch the over.
I used to be the same way with trucks I would not change em for years. I started skating ace and now I can skate fresh trucks no problem. Helpful because now I skate a few different setups, kind of like golf you have a bag of clubs , I skate the skate way .
Another heater. Love it Tom. I just set up some slappys trucks and I was tripping on the break in, but the bushings felt great straight away. I still love the thunder hallows I have on my bigger board but the slappy trucks skate very nice right away. 🎉🎉
Indy standards are my go to, the height of them really helps my pop. I ride them loose which is nice for all my tricks except 360 flip. Thats the one trick I prefer tighter trucks for. Still experimenting to find the perfect tightness of trucks for me
I’m between thunders & aces depending on the setup Can for sure vouch for the ace bushings though, they’ve got it figured out over there with the bushing/pivot cup situation
I am currently riding 33 Ace AF-1 trucks which fits an 8.0 board. I just started putting two washers in between my wheel and the truck, so I use three washers per wheel. It helps widen the truck stance a little bit, therefore you can grind more f the truck. I just stepped up to an 8.25 the other day because I love how more full the deck feels and looks. Let’s see how they feel on this 8.25 I just got. I generally do what you do, just let the trucks do their thing. I have only loosened them a couple times to get them back to what they were when I first put them on. Love the content man!
i remember my pivot cup blew out on the first session i had with my new board and trucks, i tried changing pivot cups from an older truck but it was way bigger and i had little to no awareness of where to even get em so i just never used the trucks again, and then my parents threw them when we had to move one time. It sucked because it was some purple brandon westgate venture trucks xD loved em to death but sadly never got the opportunity :(
ive been using tensor alloys since last july. i got them just as an experiment, to see if they were any good for being only $25/pair. i was really surprised, they're actually my favorite truck now (more than thunders). the thing that's great about them is they get a little bit stiffer/harder to turn as you lean over more, so it helps automatically stop wheelbite while still allowing them to be loose enough when you don't lean over as much. it feels like most other trucks just stay the same or even get looser as you lean over more, and it just makes the board feel terrible in my opinion. the stock bushings were way too soft for me on these, but i really like them with thunder hard bushings. i have to crank the nut down really far for how tight i like them, so that leaves a lot of kingpin exposed. i take the hangers off when they're new and use a belt sander to round the front edge down so it won't stick on feebles/smiths. if you don't have a belt sander, you can probably just scrape them on some smooth concrete. it's a little crazy, but i recommend it to everyone i can since it's so much cheaper than everything else
Super awesome, I rock ventures, but shit, bushings are very crucial.. I’ll ride lows 5.25.. Indy bushings blu/ blk with only top washer.. an my king pin is either flush or one thread down.. flat facing nut.. Truck madness is REAL struggles Lmmmfao
Great content! Had the same issue with Indy Titaniums. Same with Grindking Titaniums around 2000s. Seems titanium is too hard, it tends to break where steel just bends.
5.8 Venture lights. Stock bushings withe the front loosened to the point of being flush in the front and same on the back with a half turn in. Then I mash them side to side a bunch before skating. I skate 54-56 wheels so thunders baseplate screws me on nose slides. The venture base plate with larger wheels is just right so I don't get to s of rock between the baseplate and the wheels yet I still get some baseplate contact. But the main reason I skate ventures is I can just sit in a manual and Iove manual tricks.
I also skate the Thunder titaniums and I don’t think I’ll ever go back to Indys. I’ve skated both plenty of times and I always feel more stable, and have more pop, on Thunder.
love the honesty and yeah sometimes you gotta mix n match and find what works for you! i usually skate indy standards or hollows, had good luck with indy bushings in em, or doh dohs, currently have krux white bushings in the indy standards and they're skating great. Doh dohs in the indy hollows. I have really liked mini logo trucks as they're a great value, light, and grind and lock in nicely. Highly reccomend, they turn great also. Thinking of trying thunders soon. newest board (9") has indy stage 4s, kept loose with stock bushings and they skate so nice. very very surfy like aces 👍
in back i go bones hard on the bottom and bones medium on top. front truck i go medium on bottom hard on top. mostly ride bowls and im about 185lb so these feel good.
I'm skating Royal's right now and the kingpin is almost level with the hanger it's so dumb but I was trying to be nostalgic with some 90s steeze ohh well you live and learn I guess.
I am currently riding a 8.125 board with thunder hangers and krux inverted kingpin baseplates. They feel pretty good. I feel like I have that little bit of extra smoothness for smiths on ledges. I like it so far.
I love the little details and tips on all Tom’s videos. You the best for that type of stuff. You really putting us on game! Rn I’m riding Thunders that fit a 8.25 but am riding a 8.5 board. I won those trucks in a best trick competition about 5 years ago and they’ve been going strong ever since! I only get to skate once a week for about an hour at a time, so that’s why they’ve lasted so long, haha.
I've never seen someone wear in a base plate like that. That's crazy dude. I ride indy 159 with thunder bushings on my park board because the bottom bushing is coned which lets me turn better without having wiggle loose trucks 8.75-9. My street board has stock tensor mag lites 8.3-8.5.
Hey Tom. Thanks for the video on your truck rituals. I have an issue. I don't know why. I assume as I got older and heavier I started struggling with trucks. New trucks would skate fine for a couple of sessions and then they would tweak. In such a way that you need to lean to a side to just go straight. Like it would want to turn to a side. I never had this problem when I was still at school. Chris Cole actually answered me once when I asked for advice and said I need to turn the bushins a quarter turn a few times so that the bushins could break in all the way around. Don't know if you have any advice. When I see you guys(pros) skate it never looks like you have truck issues.
I had no idea bushings stiffen up over time. I always dreaded getting new trucks because of the break in period so I always used to try and preserve the old bushings..man..Purple Venture high bushings always felt way too squishy for me...wondering now if i should have stuck to them..
yea man its pretty annoying for the first hour or 2, then they start to harden up, its very strange haha.. I havent skated the venture bushings so i cant say for sure that its the same...but with bones and thunder i found they harden up afterthe first little bit...THANKS for watching !
My mans like a mechanic qorkin on his classic car. Haha nah I remember bein broke and just getting spare trucks just so I could build a tuck setup. I remember pressure cracks. To me it was metal on wood the metal is goin to cut in. I remember my dad had some Luan flooring I cut and made risers. I prolly was outta my mind the next risers I had were these foam pad things in the garage. I had em forever til my last board
@@jouhajohnny 100%... started skating again and bought Indies, wasn't satisfied with it. Thunders were better but then I remember that in past I had Venture and they are the best for me. Should have buy them erlier.
cool video ,i got you for the bushings it's so difficult when you change your trucks to deal with them ! i got indy titanium 144 but i had to buy hard bushings then still not good ahah so i put hard in the middle and the old one o the top and it's better now but yeah wasn't easy to find the good setting ! keep on Tom ! still a pleasure to watch ;)
I quit thunders like 15 years back cause of this. I remember a few pairs would just start getting warped and making the board turn. I think it just has to do with how you lean
I skate classic indys with the standard bushings and I only tighten them a little bit when I first get them. I care less about breaking in new trucks now that I skate so loose. New trucks feel almost as loose as I skate them normally.
Currently skating some Independent titanium hollows. I was skating the standards before and I wanted to lighten up my setup. Never skated Thunders before but I’ve skated a couple other brands and I always ended up snapping the kingpins. As far as bushings go, I’ve always just liked the stock Indy ones or the Indy hards.
Just got a pair of thunder lights. Still a bit hurt to skate at moment but looking forward to trying them out. Usually rock bones hard bushings but even with Indys and now the thunders I noticed something with me. Some reason it’s harder to get bushings on the back truck for some reason. Haven’t done grinds yet for some reason just hard to push bushings in on back truck. Is that weird?
Yo Tom. If I heard you correctly, you use a bottom ace bushing and a top bones bushing with no bottom washer? why is that, what does that offer that the stock thunder bushings dont?
my bottom bushing is Ace and its sitting on the bones bushing washer...my top bushing is a bones soft with the stock thunder top washer...i find the stock thunder bushings super hard to break in...bones bushings offer little to no break in period....the only reason i have ace bushings in is because i was in a pinch with broken bushings and its all the shop had...but they turned out to be great..THANKS for watching !
All other things equal, if they still feel a little snug, the difference is probably in the wear to the pivot cups and hanger post. Loving all the discussion and your reasons for what you do, along with the history behind it. 👁️💚🛹
Love it Tom! I'm not good enough to really notice the differences in my trucks and have stock bushings etc, but I do prefer my Thunder Lights (I have 148s on my 8.25/8.38 setup) to the Indy Stage 11 Forged Hollows I have on my 8.0 deck but they both good. I only have front 50-50 grooves, but they are satisfying to look at and rub 😁
I’ve always gotten the same trucks just because indys were my first and I decided they are a safe pick. I wanna switch it up once mine are finished, think I’ll go for thunder titaniums if its a good choice
same thing happened to my trucks like a month ago, and they wherent even that old. i kept skating them until the wheel broke off completely, taking part of the truck with it 😅 the skate shop i went to afterwards to get new trucks where in disblief. told me they had never seen that before. im barely 60kg so idk what i did for that to happen, im guessing its just very unlucky.
Love your work cobba all ways have ridden Thunders but had to get a new set up only could get Indys 1st pair in 30 plus years of skating there not bad there rubbers suck so was straight in with sum Thunder's haha, just a question why don't you run 2 to 3 set up's on the go at the same time so it you break one straight in with another set up mmm?
man I wish I had access to content like this when I skated back in the early 2000s. you're killing it please keep up everything you're doing
THANK YOU ! means a lot man!
love comments like that
I relate to this comment so much
dude you’re so smooth on the Board! Love watching your vids.
I skated a lot from like 13-16. Was decent. Started again at 33 and way better just from literally understanding the physics of the board and simple tricks like this video. Keep it up Tom!
That front crook groove is legendary! Time to get that goin' on the new pair 😂🔥🐐
u already know ! 💜
@@tomasta time to switch to Indy !! Indy Mid would work perfect for Tom!!
Lol, why is it always people that ride Indys that are like this? They always think that they know best and that Independents are the only truck in the world. Don't get me wrong I like Indys myself, I have a set of 159 standards on an 8.5 traffic deck. They turn great and probably better than thunders. However, I do prefer my Thunder 151s on my 8.6 New Deal reissue. The pinch just feels so much better for this skater and the turning isn't bad at all. I find it much easier to hold fs Crooked grinds and the manual point is just where i want it. There is more than one good truck company in this world and taste is very subjective. But it's always the "fUcK tHe ReST" Indy riders that talk shit and act like there is only one good truck in the world. It is super fucking annoying.
The honesty in this vid is refreshing. Switch front heel down love gap perfect but scared of the front feeb :) Thanks man!
haha different types of scary lol...THANKS for watching !
Schmitz says to add a washer to the bottom to not have blow outs. I haven’t tried it yet. But I’ve never had an issue. I ride ventures & just add Indy bushing. Indy bushings are the best along with doh doh’s. When I skated Thunder those bushing were okay.
Great tip on reusing the bushings, thanks! I was riding the ACE-AF1 with their hard bushings swapped in for about a year or so. Really love those but right now I am riding the stage 4 indy. Great turning and feel right out the gate but they don't grind as smoothly as the ACEs do...may have to go back to those.
Highlight of my day right here, loving the content big guy!
THANK YOU ! appreciate you watching my vids !
What’s really crazy is that I’m pretty sure you’re using an ace top bushing on the bottom because ace bottom bushings are barrel shaped. But what matters is that it works good!
Man what tripped me out the most and that I thought I was the only one that does that to the trucks checks every detail because it’s very very important and I’m getting back on the board again trynna stay consistent. Props on you !! Keep shredding!!!
I had bent axles on every pair of thunders I have skated. That is way I switched to ventures and those are a bit higher but feel so much better. Also ventures need a few sessions for grooves to grind better but in my opinion those are the best. And I have ridden almost every single trucks company
oh damn! thats crazy to hear, ive been skating thunders for ever and this never happened to me...or at least not this bad and i didnt notice haha... im glad you found what works for you! THANKS for watching !
Man Ventures just skate so good
@@DR_Rhomboid_Goatcabin yeah sure but still not the same truck. I had also axle slips with each pair of thunders but not with ventures. Also I like the turn of thunders more than of any other truck company
I live in Finland 🇫🇮 and the most annoying thing during the fall/spring seasons was the bushings freezing.. my friend recommended bones mediums and that solved the problem in a heartbeat!🤩
Joo siis vittu et on se ärsyttävää ku trukki kumit jäätyy...
Same truck.. thunder.. I use bones white for the back truck and thunder black (hard) on the front for bushings.
great vid! I am a big fan of the bones hard bushings as they seem to have little to no break in period.
YUP one of my favorite thing about bones bushings... super easy to get used too!
I skate indys right neow i always have skated thunders but i gave it a try and im loving them
Brooo over winter I've had so many problems with my trucks. I skate them pretty tight, just enough to where if you lean you can turn, but they're pretty tight aside from that. I exploded a bushing trying to treflip this side drop at my local indoor, and had trouble figuring out my setup again. I skate hollow thunder lows, with stock bushings. Everything about your trucks is so pivotal to your skating, a lot of people don't realize how everything is impacted by even the slightest difference. Love the content, your insight into breaking in your setup is super helpful!
yup! dude im telling you, maybe try bones bushings for the cold weather, maybe the bones hard bushings since you like them tighter...they dont have as many issues in the cold! glad you found the vid helpful! THANKS for watching !
Thunder makes extra hard 100a bushings, FYI. If you explode the stock ones, try those
8:00 gotta try that, german winters are hard, too. I‘m riding Thunders currently since january for the first time in like 10 years. The stock bushings really suck when it is colder compared to Indys, but now that it gets warmer I really like them.
yea the stock bushings are almost unbearable in the cold...give it a shot ! THANKS for watching !
@@tomasta thank YOU for your awesome vids Tom!
Haha.. "some shenanigans in my pivot cup there" cracked me up for some reason.
🤣🤣
This video is so knowledgeable. Thank you, Tom!!
GOT YOU! thanks for watching man!
also got a new pair of thunder 148s after skating 147s for forever. skated new ones loose for 2 weeks before i tightened them and that helped. now they’re perfect. didn’t think to use my old bushings, gotta try that if i move up to 149’s bc lately i like skating 8.5’s now. used to skate 8.38 and 8.25s.
Breaking in trucks is annoying, especially if you need new bushings. As you mentioned, the thunder bushings become extremely hard in the cold weather which is a big issue if you are someone who is on the lighter side regarding weight.
Also, I really enjoy watching your videos. I think its awesome to hear from a legitimate pro skaters thoughts on small or big issues in skateboarding.
awesome to hear dude glad you enjoy the vids! THANKS !
Hello from Taiwan!
Found out your own TH-cam channel lately and I quite enjoy the content you’ve brought up, I like how casual and how real your videos are! Please keep it coming, definitely one of the best skate videos these days🫡🫡🫡🫡
Love the content man! Its super cool seeing what you have going on inside your mind when you're skating! Keep up the great work bro!
THANK YOU ! i appreciate that
Ace bushings have to be the best bushings I've skated, they feel perfect and hold up well
I love trucks that have a slimmer axle. I usually ride Krux 8.25 trucks on a 8.125 board. When I get new trucks the only thing that I'm doing is switching the cushions. I hate the new cushion feeling so I just get my old ones onto my new trucks and bam I'm good to go
Shortys Doh-Doh's hardness are freezer tested, just so people know. They are great bushings.
They use same material as bones bushings without those hard plastic things
You and I do a lot of the same stuff with the trucks. I would count the exposed threads in my kingpin though. I also try and wait till the winter to set new trucks to avoid blowing out my bushings. If I couldn’t switch the over.
I used to be the same way with trucks I would not change em for years. I started skating ace and now I can skate fresh trucks no problem. Helpful because now I skate a few different setups, kind of like golf you have a bag of clubs , I skate the skate way .
Actually never thought about putting the old bushings on new trucks:D thx for this advice and for this nice video🙏
Greetings from germany 🫶
no problem! as long as they are in decent shape its a game changer ! THANKS for watching !
Another heater. Love it Tom. I just set up some slappys trucks and I was tripping on the break in, but the bushings felt great straight away. I still love the thunder hallows I have on my bigger board but the slappy trucks skate very nice right away. 🎉🎉
Indy standards are my go to, the height of them really helps my pop. I ride them loose which is nice for all my tricks except 360 flip. Thats the one trick I prefer tighter trucks for. Still experimenting to find the perfect tightness of trucks for me
AWESOME! never really rode indys, but obviously they are top teir !
I’m between thunders & aces depending on the setup
Can for sure vouch for the ace bushings though, they’ve got it figured out over there with the bushing/pivot cup situation
the ace bushings def surprised me ! THANKS for watching !
Man your skate style is so nice ! Really happy i ran into your channel.
THANK YOU !
Thunder titanium are the best trucks on the market IMO. Also you'll never have to worry about bending that titanium axle.
ayyy LETS GO !
I am currently riding 33 Ace AF-1 trucks which fits an 8.0 board. I just started putting two washers in between my wheel and the truck, so I use three washers per wheel. It helps widen the truck stance a little bit, therefore you can grind more f the truck. I just stepped up to an 8.25 the other day because I love how more full the deck feels and looks. Let’s see how they feel on this 8.25 I just got. I generally do what you do, just let the trucks do their thing. I have only loosened them a couple times to get them back to what they were when I first put them on. Love the content man!
damn that sounds like a sick setup and i like that washer idea! THANKS for watching man i apprecaite it!
I ride independent’s and I use bones bushings as well but now you got me wanting to try the ace bushing haha
I've always ridden the Indy standard 149s and never paid much attention to my bushings, but will be doing so after watching this vid👍 Great vid!
THANK YOU !
I ride Venture Lo 5.0 with Bones Hard bushings as loose as I can thread the nut. Works perfectly for me.
hell yea, risky with the bolt that loose ! haha glad it works for you ! THANKS for watching !
i remember my pivot cup blew out on the first session i had with my new board and trucks, i tried changing pivot cups from an older truck but it was way bigger and i had little to no awareness of where to even get em so i just never used the trucks again, and then my parents threw them when we had to move one time. It sucked because it was some purple brandon westgate venture trucks xD loved em to death but sadly never got the opportunity :(
I skate 8.25 superior board and 144 indys and size 56 orbs spectres and bones reds bearings ! Wow That was So Good 🙂🫠
Be riding thunders for 20 years. I broke a truck once. It was so worn down it cracked. Those were my favorite pair
thats usually what happens to me! THANKS for watching !
ive been using tensor alloys since last july. i got them just as an experiment, to see if they were any good for being only $25/pair. i was really surprised, they're actually my favorite truck now (more than thunders). the thing that's great about them is they get a little bit stiffer/harder to turn as you lean over more, so it helps automatically stop wheelbite while still allowing them to be loose enough when you don't lean over as much. it feels like most other trucks just stay the same or even get looser as you lean over more, and it just makes the board feel terrible in my opinion. the stock bushings were way too soft for me on these, but i really like them with thunder hard bushings. i have to crank the nut down really far for how tight i like them, so that leaves a lot of kingpin exposed. i take the hangers off when they're new and use a belt sander to round the front edge down so it won't stick on feebles/smiths. if you don't have a belt sander, you can probably just scrape them on some smooth concrete. it's a little crazy, but i recommend it to everyone i can since it's so much cheaper than everything else
im riding thunder hollow lights 148s, absolutely love them
Those and Venture V-hollows are my favorites
Recently got some ventures n I had a good time breaking them in
Super awesome,
I rock ventures, but shit, bushings are very crucial.. I’ll ride lows 5.25.. Indy bushings blu/ blk with only top washer.. an my king pin is either flush or one thread down.. flat facing nut..
Truck madness is REAL struggles
Lmmmfao
Great content! Had the same issue with Indy Titaniums. Same with Grindking Titaniums around 2000s. Seems titanium is too hard, it tends to break where steel just bends.
ahh damn good to know! i love them while they are good though haha THANKS i apprecaite it!
Thunder titanium is a damn good truck!
Could watch your flatground all day! Damn! So much style
THANK YOU !
Just wow the feeble Shuv was amazing
THANK YOU !
5.8 Venture lights. Stock bushings withe the front loosened to the point of being flush in the front and same on the back with a half turn in. Then I mash them side to side a bunch before skating.
I skate 54-56 wheels so thunders baseplate screws me on nose slides. The venture base plate with larger wheels is just right so I don't get to s of rock between the baseplate and the wheels yet I still get some baseplate contact. But the main reason I skate ventures is I can just sit in a manual and Iove manual tricks.
hell yea sounds like you got your setup dialed in ! THANKS for watching !
I also skate the Thunder titaniums and I don’t think I’ll ever go back to Indys. I’ve skated both plenty of times and I always feel more stable, and have more pop, on Thunder.
i feel like thunder has the perfect hight for a truck ! THANKS for watching !
Been riding Indepentent 159s. Got Venture 6.1 but hopefully this Father's Day I can get some Thunder 161.
love the honesty and yeah sometimes you gotta mix n match and find what works for you! i usually skate indy standards or hollows, had good luck with indy bushings in em, or doh dohs, currently have krux white bushings in the indy standards and they're skating great. Doh dohs in the indy hollows. I have really liked mini logo trucks as they're a great value, light, and grind and lock in nicely. Highly reccomend, they turn great also. Thinking of trying thunders soon. newest board (9") has indy stage 4s, kept loose with stock bushings and they skate so nice. very very surfy like aces 👍
in back i go bones hard on the bottom and bones medium on top. front truck i go medium on bottom hard on top. mostly ride bowls and im about 185lb so these feel good.
I'm skating Royal's right now and the kingpin is almost level with the hanger it's so dumb but I was trying to be nostalgic with some 90s steeze ohh well you live and learn I guess.
I am currently riding a 8.125 board with thunder hangers and krux inverted kingpin baseplates. They feel pretty good. I feel like I have that little bit of extra smoothness for smiths on ledges. I like it so far.
woah thats a interesting set up! sick
Wow its been a while not watch tom asta. You had a you tube channel already. Keep it up man.
I’m freaking OCD about counting my turns of the kingpin to get it right lol
Also Ace bushings are really really good! So smooth
haha me too! dude they are good, surprised me for sure !
I like independent and thunder I have white thunders rn but they're smaller than my 8.25 board did that on accident
I love the little details and tips on all Tom’s videos. You the best for that type of stuff. You really putting us on game!
Rn I’m riding Thunders that fit a 8.25 but am riding a 8.5 board. I won those trucks in a best trick competition about 5 years ago and they’ve been going strong ever since! I only get to skate once a week for about an hour at a time, so that’s why they’ve lasted so long, haha.
THANK YOU! damn thats great to get that much time out of the trucks! i wish i never had to switch trucks haha
I've never seen someone wear in a base plate like that. That's crazy dude. I ride indy 159 with thunder bushings on my park board because the bottom bushing is coned which lets me turn better without having wiggle loose trucks 8.75-9. My street board has stock tensor mag lites 8.3-8.5.
wild right! i think its just the sharp ass ledge i skate all the time haha..THANKS for watching ! damn your setups are interesting!
Bro. Your pop is incredible.
Thunder 149 and want titanium’s so bad but I’ll skate whatever thunders I find. And just get different thunder bushings in case I blow one out
Ok wow never gave too much though about it but i am using and have been using double Bones mediums for like... 8 years with a 7 and 7 turn
Hey Tom. Thanks for the video on your truck rituals. I have an issue. I don't know why. I assume as I got older and heavier I started struggling with trucks. New trucks would skate fine for a couple of sessions and then they would tweak. In such a way that you need to lean to a side to just go straight. Like it would want to turn to a side. I never had this problem when I was still at school. Chris Cole actually answered me once when I asked for advice and said I need to turn the bushins a quarter turn a few times so that the bushins could break in all the way around. Don't know if you have any advice. When I see you guys(pros) skate it never looks like you have truck issues.
I had no idea bushings stiffen up over time. I always dreaded getting new trucks because of the break in period so I always used to try and preserve the old bushings..man..Purple Venture high bushings always felt way too squishy for me...wondering now if i should have stuck to them..
yea man its pretty annoying for the first hour or 2, then they start to harden up, its very strange haha.. I havent skated the venture bushings so i cant say for sure that its the same...but with bones and thunder i found they harden up afterthe first little bit...THANKS for watching !
@@tomasta Venture bushings are pretty much the same as thunders but just different shape
nice to see pros doing vlogs, make them seem human :) keep it up, subscribed!
My mans like a mechanic qorkin on his classic car. Haha nah I remember bein broke and just getting spare trucks just so I could build a tuck setup. I remember pressure cracks. To me it was metal on wood the metal is goin to cut in. I remember my dad had some Luan flooring I cut and made risers. I prolly was outta my mind the next risers I had were these foam pad things in the garage. I had em forever til my last board
Have the 8,25 deck of Knibbs
8,25 Yuto Venture Hollow
Bronson G3
Black 53 mm Spitfire Wheels
Venture are the best for me, Thunders are great too...
Ventures are the best
@@jouhajohnny 100%... started skating again and bought Indies, wasn't satisfied with it. Thunders were better but then I remember that in past I had Venture and they are the best for me. Should have buy them erlier.
I skate Thunder Titaniums, Love them.
grind king 👑
i just got new trucks too, ive used thunder for a long time, i just got a set of Indy Mids and im liking them so far
hell yea thats awesome dude !
cool video ,i got you for the bushings it's so difficult when you change your trucks to deal with them ! i got indy titanium 144 but i had to buy hard bushings then still not good ahah so i put hard in the middle and the old one o the top and it's better now but yeah wasn't easy to find the good setting ! keep on Tom ! still a pleasure to watch ;)
haha i feel you! somtimes you gotta mess around with different bushings and find what workes! THANK YOU !
My favorite channel.
THANK YOU !
Been doing bones softs for a couple years now but i blow them out too fast im gonna have to give that bottom ace bushing a try!
I quit thunders like 15 years back cause of this. I remember a few pairs would just start getting warped and making the board turn. I think it just has to do with how you lean
I skate classic indys with the standard bushings and I only tighten them a little bit when I first get them. I care less about breaking in new trucks now that I skate so loose. New trucks feel almost as loose as I skate them normally.
Love it! Thanks Tom!
Any tips on keeping the pivot cups from squeaking? 🔥
yeah put a little bit of wax inside your cups. problem solved.
yep some wax or a drop of olive oil but like literally a drop haha
I've had the same set of ventures since 97.... 😮.. yes, I suck
Nice video ❤. My favorite truck is venture.
Currently skating some Independent titanium hollows. I was skating the standards before and I wanted to lighten up my setup.
Never skated Thunders before but I’ve skated a couple other brands and I always ended up snapping the kingpins.
As far as bushings go, I’ve always just liked the stock Indy ones or the Indy hards.
its sick that indy has titaniums cause ive always heard indys are a bit heavy... thats awesome dude...THANKS for watching !
@@tomasta Indy titaniums are still heavy haha
THUNDER FOR LIFE
+ 13:16 on repeat! beautiful
Just got a pair of thunder lights. Still a bit hurt to skate at moment but looking forward to trying them out. Usually rock bones hard bushings but even with Indys and now the thunders I noticed something with me. Some reason it’s harder to get bushings on the back truck for some reason. Haven’t done grinds yet for some reason just hard to push bushings in on back truck. Is that weird?
I've been on Venture 5.0 Lows for YEARS.
sucks I can't find those in shops anymore.
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yea i feel like all lows are hard to find nowadays...not many people skate those ! THANKS for watching !
@@tomasta
I'm only 5' 5" so yeah..
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@@theJACK__ 🤣
I'm skating stage 4 Indy's, 8.6 truck on a 8.38, pretty fun to skate
big boys !
Yo Tom. If I heard you correctly, you use a bottom ace bushing and a top bones bushing with no bottom washer? why is that, what does that offer that the stock thunder bushings dont?
my bottom bushing is Ace and its sitting on the bones bushing washer...my top bushing is a bones soft with the stock thunder top washer...i find the stock thunder bushings super hard to break in...bones bushings offer little to no break in period....the only reason i have ace bushings in is because i was in a pinch with broken bushings and its all the shop had...but they turned out to be great..THANKS for watching !
I am so picky with my trucks. I won't ride any thunders with white bushings. Have to be clear colored bushings.
duuude the white ones are soooo soft at first haha THANKS for watching !
All other things equal, if they still feel a little snug, the difference is probably in the wear to the pivot cups and hanger post.
Loving all the discussion and your reasons for what you do, along with the history behind it.
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THANKS KEITH ! 💜
Love it Tom! I'm not good enough to really notice the differences in my trucks and have stock bushings etc, but I do prefer my Thunder Lights (I have 148s on my 8.25/8.38 setup) to the Indy Stage 11 Forged Hollows I have on my 8.0 deck but they both good. I only have front 50-50 grooves, but they are satisfying to look at and rub 😁
I’ve always gotten the same trucks just because indys were my first and I decided they are a safe pick. I wanna switch it up once mine are finished, think I’ll go for thunder titaniums if its a good choice
sick ! i really like the titaniums..super light and strong THANKS for watching !
Great video as always bro. See ya on twitch soon.
VERY SOON !
Why is impossible to find titanium thunders in Germany? Tell them to ship more over here to the retailers!
im not sure, i know that thunder is out of them a lot! i think more people are trying to get there hands on titaniums
same thing happened to my trucks like a month ago, and they wherent even that old. i kept skating them until the wheel broke off completely, taking part of the truck with it 😅 the skate shop i went to afterwards to get new trucks where in disblief. told me they had never seen that before. im barely 60kg so idk what i did for that to happen, im guessing its just very unlucky.
damn, for that to happen so early on is pretty crazy! ive never had this happen before but my trucks were very old! THANKS for watching !
Thank you!! That board tho!! I needa grab one beautiful!
ayy thanks ! i like this graphic a lot!
@@tomasta ordering from tactics as we speak!!!
Cheers from GUAM
Love your work cobba all ways have ridden Thunders but had to get a new set up only could get Indys 1st pair in 30 plus years of skating there not bad there rubbers suck so was straight in with sum Thunder's haha, just a question why don't you run 2 to 3 set up's on the go at the same time so it you break one straight in with another set up mmm?
I wonder if you ever tried Independent titaniums with your board just to see what it felt like.
i have actually...from riding thunders for so long the indys felt high and turned way different than the thunders. seemed not worth the headache haha
Yo dope vid, remember the nut screws onto the bolt or stud
Just skate them max palmer loose for 1 day and your good to go. Stock bushings. You can tighten then next day and then still surf. 🏄♂️
true..but them stocks feel crazy at first lol
talking about the quality of thunder trucks, if a ledge warrior like this can skate your product for 2 years... that's some proof
Happy Sunday boss!
ayyy you too homie !
I coint the turns too!