POV: You’re here because you’ve been waiting for the series X to come in stock but you’re thinking about getting the series S but need to see the differences
This was a perfect comparison with both systems. I dont mind downloading all my games and having slight lesser performance, just to play games quick. S looks to be up to my speed with the budget price
Yeah, I’m not even going to look to buy one until 5 months from now when they are likely to be more available. No way I’m buying one on eBay for 900. Lol.
The S is surprisingly good. It's all I am going to say. There's a 60fps patch for Valhalla. Morrtal Kombat 11 runs surprisingly well and in frame (60fps). Be willing to manage the smaller SSD space with a set of games at a time and you will be set.
It’s a no out the same sort of ratio for ps5 or almost. I do prefer PlayStation in general but they don’t exist. But you can see 60fps options for the S running about 1080p usually. Morta Kombat 11 is like a best case. Runs 60fps solid and near 4K
@@optionselleck2860 that’s not quite true. There’s been older fighting games running at 30fps (soul blade on ps1 for example). And soul calibur when they started to use the unreal engine had some stutters on its presentation I find Mortla Kombat Uktimate quite quite solid with everything going on and high res.
@@Raist3db 99% of fighting games and any new fighting game, even ones from ps2 run at 60fps, they have to because that's how the moves are measured, --frame data built to work within 60fps, no more or less. So the point is it's not impressive for mk or any fg to run at 60fps because that's exactly what they have to be, you can't have more or less, it's not about a quality thing..
The Xbox One S actually had a hard drive, not an SSD. I know you meant "Series S", of course haha. It's pretty hilarious that their names are so bad that nobody is realizing... even Linus ( 1:00 ) said it and seemingly nobody noticed LOL.
@@XFourty7 yup, apparently the sales of Xbox One X shot up 700% on the day of next gen release, poor people probably won't realise they got the wrong one until little Timmy has a tantrum on Christmas morn
Got the Series S, first console ive bought for myself, had it for almost a year now. Pretty solid buy. Used it to play a bunch of games thats on the game pass, now I mostly use it as a media box, until new stuff comes out.
Yes, Doom Eternal has a One X enhanced version so that's what the Series X will beplaying. The Series S will be playing the One S version. Until the optimised Series versions come out.
Yes doom eternal came out purposely to prove that 1080p games Still Rock on the new systems and both of the new system can stream 1440p to the internet which is better than one Doom Eternal signal to most tv still upscale 1080p. 72 inch tv
@@androidwonderland yea but i have a lot of next gen games, a lot of external ssd's dont allow you to play next gen games off of the ssd. the seagate expansion card is too expensive so i'll just have to deal with it
Can I use my external drive from the original Xbox One to the Series S? If so I'll just get the S. It'll be like having a $300 console with 2.5 tb storage. Graphics are good but not worth the extra $200 for the X.
I love how a mainly pc gamer looks at that texture pop in after returning from the bird and is suprised by how "bad" it is. where as I'm sitting over here, mainly a console gamer still, thinking, "dang that pop in is so much better than it used to be."
@@IIARROWS Normal people dont understand that with youtube upload compression you cannot tell for sure if it is the way it looks in real life. Even if the capture would be perfect.
The thing is, not everyone has a 4K display. Most of the people I know, me included still use 1080p monitors and are more than fine with that. I was expecting to see what difference it’d make on one of those.
@Terminalforlife (LL) congrats man I’m thinking about getting a ps5 digital or Xbox series x even tho I have series s, maybe I’ll get Xbox one x but that’s the fattest maybe ever and I can basically only buy a friggin switch lite (it cost 200) and I think the digital ps5 cost 400 I only think, Xbox series x cost 500 but I mean..my 4 years of collecting money off the floor paid off 200 DOLLARS
@@cosmofoxgaming1268 I mean..does it upscale to 4k or just regularly at 4k idk if I didn’t get the series s and I’m if I was somewhat broke I’d get a one S or one x, like I said this is hypothetical so if I was broke I’d get either one of those :/
@@transcending6959 1) They're a company, only idiots blindly trust companies to start with 2) spamming videos in the comments pretty much guarantees it's laughable garbage that can't get views otherwise
👍👍 This video should help ease people's minds a bit more to buy the budget friendly option. It's still a brilliant choice, you'll have access to all the new gen games and features. Plus most people won't even notice a change at all once they adjust to it anyways. If I wasn't sold on the S before I am now.
I got the S. I am so happy with it. It's just such a good deal and the games run like a charm. Do note I am coming from PC gaming and I am pretty picky, but so far Xbox S was a bliss. And the fact that it's so small and portable is so great for bringing it to your friends/relatives house etc. It's lovely. And for the small storage - just buy a 40 EUR external storage and you're set. YES, not all games can be run from HDD. There's a way to check whether the game demands to be run from the internal SSD or will it run from HDD, and most games do. So, I just download the games that can run from HDD to the HDD, while use the SSD for the rest.
@@ojasgadekar they load slower yes, but they still load at the same speed as xbox one games (on an xbox one, if your hdd is fast enough which it should be)
You guys really need to record at 60FPS when trying to demonstrate differences in framerates and "smoothness". It's completely imperceptible when your video is 30FPS. Even if most of your video is rendered at 30FPS and just 60FPS in the side-by-side comparison shots.
no, watching 60 fps "none gamplay" videos on youtube is not that good, 30 fps gives cinematography effect, recording at 60 fps feels weird to watch, there's a good reason if cinema standard is 24 or 25 fps
@@Tonyx.yt. They literally edited together a gameplay comparison of framerates, no one cares about cinematography when the goal is to show a side-by-side comparison of information that is literally missing from your video. If you want to keep the cinematography, like I already said, render the video at 30fps except when you are explicitly showing a framerate comparison.
@@noahcuroe or better yet, just slow down the footage by 50% so the difference in framerate can actually be seen at 30fps without having to jump between different framerates in your video, this whole video seems to be pretty low effort though tbh, from other comments i've read it seems that doom eternal on the series s is actually running with the same settings as the one s, since it hasn't yet been optimised, but from the video you would get the impression that the game isn't able to look better on the hardware, just pure laziness tbh
It’s funny bc in this case, ubisofts “optimizations” were that it was natively series s and x compatible, but then he goes into doom eternal that hasnt even gotten the next gen update yet lol. The only reason ubisoft looks optimized here is bc doom eternal is unoptimized!!
Honestly the Series X is so hard to get right now that a Series S is just fine for now and much easier to get. If you're a true graphics snob then build a PC.
@Gregory5331 Yeah...no. Series s is ideal for 3rd world countries where games and PCs are extremely expensive. Either wait for PS5 or build a PC if you have the cash.
Actually that's not entirely true. Many PC gamers still run 1080p on high settings as it's way more affordable to do so. For the average gamer the XS is a effing steal at its price point. And for those who are on a budget still rocking a 1080p or 720p TV you'll never miss not having true 4K. My plasmas keep me occupied til OLED hit that right price in the next year or so, enjoy.
@@duiwithc4corvette403 investing the extra to get the PC, (2x 3x 4x) is worth it IF you have the cash regardless if you are a 1080p gamer. Xbox wont get you nowhere near as many games. Also you can use certain methods where you can play games for free on PC rather than cashing out 80 dollars moving forward. Xbox is not so cheap if you are a harcore gamer wanting to play a lot of games. GamePass wont solve all your issues. But I understand the appeal. In Turkey where consoles are 1000$ certainly makes it easier to just save the extra for PC.Add the significant income and fiat differences, building a PC in US even with the elevated scalper prices is extremely cheap compared to 3rd world countries. It takes so long to save enough money here. Value the opportunities and prices you have :)
Okay, Linus you did an Oopsie , Doom looks worse because it is running One S version on Series S and One X version on Series X. They are in their backwards compatibility mode while Valhalla is a cross gen game designed for next gen.
@@quinnfoto , well, if you get a C10, you are prob not bying a Series S anyway. An equally/more relevant comparison would be to run both an a 1080p/cheap 4k screen, since that is more the target for the Series S.
Hahaha.. I understand your suffering when i want to build a cheap PC for my sister i was considering buying GT 1030 but I was saved by the video on Yoututbe who showed me even the IGPU on Ryzen 5 3400G is better than GT 1030.
Honestly, you'd have been better off going used market at that point. Can find some cheap ass Radeon (R9 280X, 7970 etc.) cards, assuming you're in a country with a decent used marketplace anyway.
Series X does something magic. I ran the first Assassin's Creed title, 2008, transferred to x360 around 2010. The game looks astonishing even for being 14 years old. It has also been proven here in this video that Series X does somehow improve the graphics.
@@eligijusbucinskas2221 can what you can afford, don't put yourself under pressure cause of the comments you see on Twitter or YT.. I planning to get a Series S cause i have better things to do rather than gaming. I have a family to look after, what is my baby boy gon eat or wear if i am to spend everything i have on gaming?
The Series S is primarily for gamers like myself that are on a 10 year old 1080p TV and don't intend to upgrade anytime soon. It is designed to play optimally on that (or 1440p) resolution with upscaling to 4K an additional feature. The faster loading time and low input latency are the winners for me and why I will soon upgrade from my One S.
@@Knights_of_the_Nine for you maybe. Form me living in South Africa, gaming is a luxury. I have much more important things to spend my money on than buying a new TV while my old one is still perfectly fine. A 4K TV won't make me a better gamer ;-)
@Cantdothis212 Because it has clear benefits specifically for the games that I play. The main game that I play, Pinball FX3, clearly put users with the least amount of input lag at an advantage. That is one clear area where the Xbox Series is vastly improved on the Xbox One. The cost of the S is cheap for what you get and low enough that I don't have to go too much out of my way to buy it if I e.g. sell my Xbox One S. Buying an X will just be pointless for me at this stage. I will not be able to make use of it unless I buy a much more expensive TV that have HDMI 2.1 input. That is just not viable for me or at all a priority.
@@varu6220 Competitive gaming.... Ya okay. Whatever kind of soulless person considers themselves competitive gamers? If you game for profit of any kind, build a PC... If you don't make money, why not actually have fun?
One thing I'm disappointed Linus didn't say is that both series Xboxes s/x can use USB storage at launch it was iffy on what Titles would be USB playable but even then it was quick to shift games back and forth as alot if games would come close to 100gb and the 512gb (realistically 300gb after os and provisioning) ssd only gave you five games with it space, but shifting games to my external and back again was typically minutes and I could play other titles while data was transferred . Now after several patches alot more games will play off USB (sorry no definitive list) even games that demanded internal storage will now run off USB (I'm not saying every game will but both cyberpunk and avengers demanded to be on the internal on my system and recently for some reason started working off the external). Usually Linus is so thorough and tries some extra out of the box stuff in his review it felt odd he's absolutely right 200 for double the storage she a blu ray drive is a pretty decent deal But some of us have a blu ray player or don't even use blu rays so the only really advantage left was storage so I was surprised he didn't do a thing on how games load off USB (comparative loading times) how long transfers take to provide on what you really give up by getting the s. I'm also suprised that no review I've seen even Linus hasn't talked about upscaling as most 4k tvs have done sorry of upscaler for non 4 k sources. Does a good upscaler help out the series s. Does the x benefit from a upscaler etc. Just my 2 cents overall a great review
Yeah, I was kind of hoping he was going to bring this stuff up. I have an 8tb HDD and wanted to know the performance differences sense It will be a while before I get a card. I know for some people every second and graphics matter, but for me, it does not. I just want a cheap way to play next-gen games sense we are now getting to the point that developers are cutting last generation support.
7:20 something tells me Linus isn’t aware that doom eternal didnt receive next gen updates yet (even a month and a half later as of writing this). What Linus is seeing on series s here is the Xbox ONE version, NOT one made for series s, so if you want to play doom eternal now on your series s then good luck, but if you wait a little bit your results will likely be very different
Yeah I feel that is really important to point out. Unless it has been specifically optimized for the series s, it is running the one s version. I’m surprised they didn’t know that and compare games that were actually optimized.
UPDATE: As of today (6/29/2021) Doom eternal has in fact received series s/x optimizations! What does this mean for you? If youre looking at a Series S: It is much different! 1080p120 or 1440p60, making this game look much better and/or run much smoother. If youre looking at Series X: not much has changed for you, although now you can check out Doom Eternal with raytracing!
I like the s, but all my 360 and one discs aren’t just magically going away because it’s cheaper I should edit my first console was the launch day one, up to that point I only had the Nintendo ds and gameboy so I went back and bought 360 titles that had great reputation and played them on my one, which technically is my “family” Xbox so yeah being off at college I’d like a way to play all my games
Finaly I found someone in the comments who has disc too. I was thinking the same, series S would be enough for me, but I need a way to play my old games so series S is a no no. Thanks Microsoft
Can't agree more. To my the S is for someone that wants a few games on it to play COD, Fornite and so on that aren't going to buy tons or that wants a few on Gamepass/or as a second console even if for the cheap price, but us Disk users need the more expensive ones to keep using our older (4 generation of Xbox games) and newer games on them. And I'm not selling them for a digital code either. Though as I have no Original Xbox, 2 360 (1 with Internet, 1 without), and a One/One X I think it's clear what I've using my Original Xbox and 360 games on. Testing what the old can do is cool still and using it for new is important/giving it the proper use, but yeah otherwise the lists just aren't worth it if you have the older consoles or certain games you can't (cough and the Xbox Original on Xbox One list is just not worth it to me compared to the 360's BC, it's good and has a few on there I want but not enough to count it worth while compared to the few 360 I tried on the One). And as I've just started collecting for Original Xbox now the ones I wanted like Project Gotham Racing 1 & 2 aren't on Xbox One's list so no point in moving forward for them, so the 360s will do.
I had the same thought process for a bit, until I actually looked at my gaming collection for the 360 (skipped MS last gen). I was REALLY into Capcom and fighting games back then so those were all physical. My two sticks wouldn't work on the S or the X, so I'm still stuck with that system for those games. I have the best luck when it comes to gaming (your screen should be sticky from the sarcasm oozing from those words). Almost 75% of the other games I bought physical were later released a free games on Gold back when they actually let you keep the games. Fast forward to 12AM on the 11th, when I finally get home and get to open the Series S I was able to get from Walmart. I have 34 games available in my library, $15 in a my Live account that has to have been sitting there for 6+ years, and the offer for Game Pass Ultimate for $1. After using the offer (and finding out I also have enough Bing Rewards points for 3 more months) to fill in the blanks, out of my entire library I'm missing Lost Odyssey and some random OG Xbox games I was given when I first got the 360 and needed something to play. All in all, I'm very satisfied with what I got. I gave up a disc drive and some extra power under the hood for $200. 800GB wasn't going to be enough for my BC library, so I still would have needed to get extra storage even if I bought the Series X. My 4K TV can't do 120HZ, but I have a great 1080P projector. Now, had I been planning to upgrade either of those in the next few years, I probably would have bought a Series X.... A year from now.
I think that we should just wait for a few more months or maybe a year for the next version of these consoles. See the difference between the OG Xbox One and the final One X?
@@renegadepuppy bro i have a doubt - i want to play open worlds only - gta v , watch dogs legion , far cry 6 , rdr2 , mafia , cyberpunk etc. all these games are available for xbox one cds ( each cd under 28 $ ) ... i can play all i want offline , the reason to buy next generation console is only the GTA 6.. and when it will release i will buy it online or brought a GTA 6 cd.. i don't have much time to play 1000+ games , i just want the few games of this generation ( named above ) and 1 or 2 from next gen. .... i understand that if you brought CDs that will cost more , but that's not issue.. i want to play maximum of 12 games and that's not need to me to play optimised games with ultra graphics ( special XS games )and if i pay for gamepass 10$ every month + 5$ internet for play ) it will cost almost same after 5 month .. CDs are parmanent and i will not face issue of storage.. as i can restall that games after delete for free of cost so , now say what do you think .. btw i can sell my CDs but not online games or account..so please suggest Xbox series X or S for offline with value of money
When developers begin to concentrate more fully on the X rather than splitting resources between that and the S I wonder if the differences in performance will be greater.
Not really the only reason someone would get the series x is to get the bet of the best they focus more on the Sirius s because the series s is a long term console that over time it will get better with updates
@@pooticus2489 And so will the Series X. Which is why this person made their comment in the first place because they're working on both and thus have less focused efforts on improvement.
@@georgeastaldo5159 You are right, but the main thing is that i dont want to stay worried about get burn with games HUD, or this kind of things, i just want to enjoy my tv.
Yup Doom runs at 900p for Series S with default X1 backwards compatibility. This was a poor review to sell LG TVs. Like someone who could afford an OLED would then buy the cheapest Xbox around.
Every other review I've seen mentions this, even guys with like 1000 subs. Meanwhile big ol Linus is playing 900p "vcr" xbox one games on a series X and complaing about the graphics😔 Sure Microsofts implementation could have been better but you could have done some bare minimum research and played one of there optimised games listed below www.xbox.com/en-AU/games/optimized Or you know at least mention that your playing a last gen version of doom.
@@GarbageTakes Series X uses the One X enhanced version on Doom, while Series S uses the plain old One version at 900p. Likely an enhanced version for Series S would run at 1440p adaptive resolution with a minimum of 1080p, aside from other improvements.
I got the S because it was cheeper and I didn’t mind the quality as much as other people. And the storage is not a problem as of now because i only plan on playing elden ring for the foreseeable future. I never really buy physical games anymore and the S is super small and easy to carry around when traveling.
@@DG-kr8pt Because he plays Elden Ring? The 1st/2nd most likely game to win GOTY? Best game in atleast 2 years? And maybe he just hasn't played a lot of different games yet, and sticks to the kind of which he enjoys the most? YOU know nothing. Not to try to show off, but I am pretty sure I would beat you in any aspect/activity ever.
I dunno, my wife and I both find the S really attractive because of its smol size and steep discount, even though we have several 4K TVs and top end gaming PCs and all that stuff. I guess we just don't consider consoles to be where we look for good graphics to begin with.
@@Adahop yes there will definitely be people like yourself, but I think a lot of the reviewers are forgetting that the biggest market for consoles is the same as ever - kids.
@Dindu "Price per frame" doesn't mean shit to parents who are buying it for their kids and that 200 dollars extra for the Series X feels way more expensive than it does to you because of salary
The problem with comparing games like Doom Eternal is that you're actually playing the Xbox One X or Xbox One S versions of the games. So the Series S is playing a version developed for 1.4tflops
Yeah, they didn't really put a ton of research into this video. They also didn't mention that ac Valhalla runs at 60fps with adaptive resolution on the series x. And the fact that ubisoft games are known for their mediocre optimization. A game like gears 5 would be a much better comparison.
@@carllavery4442 the writing is on the wall. There have been multiple videos showing the series s dropping to 900p and only doing 1080p 60fps is some games. No raytracing in some games and not being able to do 1440 60fps on most games. Less than 400gb of usable space. But believe what you want but the series s is a bad buy and will be obsolete by the end of next year.
yeah I can't believe microsoft left Sereies S with only 10GB RAM so it can't run One X version. They really meant Series S to be an inferior experience.
Additionally, if you collect physical movies, having a Blu-ray player integrated into the entire package is great. Isn't really a replacement if you are a hardcore cinephile but it works, and saves space.
@@johnpreston230 Which is unfortunate, it's becoming harder and harder to actually own a movie and be free to watch it whenever you want. Now you have to pay a subscription, and the second that stops being paid, it's gone.
@@Beanpolr you can pirate the movie if you want or buy digital versions of the movie then copy it onto a disk that can run in your drive??? Just because the tech is moving forward doesn't mean you can't do a little leg work for your physical dvd obsession lol. The next gen of console i doubt there will be any disc option at all considering this societal "meta" boom is happening. Your console will probably be loaded on a pc one day lol. The PlayStation app and Xbox app that runs seperate, and you just pay 400 dollars for a key, like a piece of PC software. FR tho. I don't support pirating movies, but if you need to watch or play on a disc. Do it while you can... Cartridges were the old medium... Did you hysterically chase down every last cartridge back in the day and cherish them till now? or did you start collecting dvd's instead? This is the way of the "future" its gimmicky, but it will save space and waste man. All of those discs and cd cases, Maybe you just like looking at cases? They will make a vr movie room with all of your movies on shelves that you design. There is no escaping what is coming with consumer electronics man.
I mean, to be fair they have an awful naming scheme. I don't know how it's been this long and Microsoft still hasn't learned a thing about how to name something.
It would be nice if you would have clarified whether you were running the games in Performance or Quality mode because most games have the ability to switch between the two. The difference obviously comes down to their target framerates. Most games (Especially Doom Eternal) will target 120fps with a sacrifice in visual quality in Performance mode and target 60fps with better visuals in Quality mode.
@@SSenderling currently on the series s doom eternal runs at either 1440p 60fps or 1080p with lowered visuals at 120fps, linus was shitting on it when he was playing the xbox one version which was made for 2013 hardware lol.
The series s is just perfect for the kids like me with divorced parents. Perfect size to carry in your backpack, imagine trying to do that with the ps5. You would need a pickup truck to move that unit. 😂
Kids these days. I used to load an original Xbox and all the stuff I'd need for a sleep over in a back pack then ride my bike 5 miles to my friends house. And it was uphill both ways in 300 feet of snow!!!!
I have both. I love them both very much. It's actually hard for me to see a difference. I play my Series X on a 4K 120Hz Sony Bravia, and use my Series S as a portable system using a 4K integrated portable GStory monitor. It's 12.5 inch and can do 120FPS at 1080p
1. Then you should probably invest in better Internet, not a gaming console. 2. If that's not an option, just go to sleep and wake up with the new update installed.
For me, that disc drive is the deal breaker for the Series S. I own a lot of physical Xbox One games and want to migrate it over to the next gen consoles without spending more than I need to.
I was honestly thinking the same thing. My wife just bought me the Series S as a surprise and while I'm SUPER thankful I was wondering what I would do about all of my physical Xbox One games. However, my old Xbox One VCR works just fine so if I can still use it when I want to play one of my physical games. Just can't beat the price point of the series S tbh.
I have been using Xbox’s since the first one so I had amassed a huge collection of games and having a console which can upscale and play all these games is such a great thing along with it having extra starting memory with better graphics, worth $749 aud.
Went from one S to series s.... 100% worth it. The difference is HUGELY noticeable. Then I got a 4K TV (series has netflix/youtube at 4K) and wowie. It’s amazing. The increase is so amazing and I highly highly recommend doing it. Series S Also has 60fps in most games I’ve played as of yet.
@@jonah1110 as i've seen, it can also run 120 fps on rainbow six siege on a performance mode, however when you turn that option on, the screen tearing is really bad
They look cool but I haven't been caught in the hype. I don't see any game at the moment to make me buy one. I'll stick to my current console probably for a long time. 🎮
@@baljeet8597 I don't know, maybe because there are possibilities for upcoming issues and exclusives are coming a bit late? Price can have a chance to drop by other markets with sales, and stocks will be higher
While it’s not perfect you can store and swap files around for x/s optimized games on a usb external drive. You can also play xbox one, 360, and original xbox games directly from it. It makes it a lot cheaper to have a lot more storage with not much of a headache.
are u sure u mean i feel sad for no reason all this time? i have the xbox one 2013 i know about the 900p but are u sure that that was hapening on the xbox one s to? i was feeling bad because i thought it was only 900p for the xbox one 2013
5:42 there no "texture pop in" is just the mipmaps doing their job. Imagine if the texture were fully loded at full res all the time even when you are not seeing em? why you would want that?, that would be just wasted resources.
@@raymond4955 ngl I unlike what Linus said I think no one wants the series s since well it's doesn't rly classifie as a next generation console and since it's almost Xmas I think people is willing to spend the extra cash also the average non techy person would probably only consider the series x considering all the headlines on it compared to it's little brother... Also guys I'm gonna try and buy a ps5 wish me luck I don't kill myself with everyone trying to buy one at the same time and these stupid botes
@@lolthepop324alois8 Xbox all access might also come into play. The difference in price between the 2 with all access is... like a medium sized burger a month. 60 dkk difference. 85 for a double cheese.. which was the first thing i could thini off to describe the difference across countries.
@@lolthepop324alois8 Honestly, the Series S just feels like a massive waste of time to me. Sure, still faster load times but i can't imagine it will age well, especially if they release pro models down the line. I would deeefinitely stick with the ps5 or series x.
Just remember that with the series s the difference isn't going to be as big with the two consoles, because most people will be playing the s on much smaller screens at 1080 to 1440 not on 4k screens, thats what the x is for. The difference isn't going to be as big because Linus is playing on an amazing TV.
i dont think a lot of gamers buy the series x for higher resolution, the series x provides a more stable framerate and more dev support, it is sad but the series x seems more future proof
The only thing that would make the series S a competitive console would be the availability to have your physical library transferred to digital. It would end up costing you just about as much or more as the price of the series x if you have a large physical library. I like my series x
And while you could, in theory, re-purchase most of your games digitally, if any of the physical games you have are delisted, you won't be able to at all. It's why I prefer the Series X too.
I am actually used to play on the Wii that I don't care about how good image quality looks, but how good the games are and how much you enjoy them, and that is why I am sticking with the series S Which is also my first Xbox.
My concern with the existence of the Series S with the scenario that developers at least first party are probably required to make games run on it, which may hurt developers ability to push the series X to it's limit; A lot of developers have expressed concerns. Best case scenario would be reducing polygon/textures for art, but this might cause some rework from artists...more dev $$/time. Worst case if the extra ram,speed,etc is used to drive a feature with AI, asset streaming,etc it could just be cut all together.
It's kind of a non issue to be specific games run on different hardware so the time plus what if you don't have a 4k TV now is your TV a problem since your Xbox series x has to dumb down the video for it studios have already tried to pawn off this excuse as to why games sometimes fail expectations oh it would look awesome if we had just made the series x version but it has to be compatible. Search it there a ton of debunk videos about this If this was truly the issue they could put in a performance mode like with PS4 so it could scale with hardware. Yes the Xbox is more than a glorified gou but literally if you had a pc and played a game on a 3080 you could turn it off yank it put in a 2080 and continue game on with maybe less detail the data is still there but the cards only rendering what it can render same concept here the data to make your game 4k is there but the series s is doing what it can do that's why games are series s/x optimized not s or x optimized. This is just a studio excuse for churning crap
well devs on pc already have a bunch of settings for graphics quality, that menu is simply hidden on consoles, but they can always find the right configuration in their game engine, it's very easy, most game engine tools auto generate LODs for models and compress textures to get the lower quality from the highest, dev time to implement that is minimal compared to the core of the game
‼️The Xbox Series S got an update so the OS uses less memory so games can run better. Memory was a big complaint from devs working on games for the Series S so hopefully they can better optimize their games for the Series S.‼️ EDIT: Around 5-10% performance increase
sorta, but honestly when you aren't focusing on stuff generally speaking no engines are designed to keep rendering the higher textures as there is no reason to.... it is possible they could change it when updating the engine but tbh... I don't know if it would be worth it as in that scene they would probably have to sacrifice performance (draw distance) when flying as a bird to keep the frame rates if they were keeping the high res textures loaded.... but honestly i find that to be meh (dumb thing to complain about) considering i grew up with the evolution of nintendo to now...
I went with the Series S. It fit my budget better but does what I need it to. I wish people would just calm down and let those of us who can’t afford the more expensive consoles, just be happy and not feel like second class.
Lol drama queen. How in the world does it make you a second class citizen lol it doesnt affect you directly in any way having someone compare two products. Are you also feeling less than because some wanker owns a mazzaratti somewhere that you cant afford? I mean really
POV: You’re here because you’ve been waiting for the series X to come in stock but you’re thinking about getting the series S but need to see the differences
Yes exactly but im still going with the series x even after this video :( but good luck tho
Yeah I got a series s BC the X was sold out everywhere near me, I really like the S tho
@@campaexe is it good mine is coming on wensday :) update I have my series s it’s really good
@@Bridgesgotswag I have had a good experience so far with it
@@campaexe does it run 120fps on most games?
After carefully considering the pros and cons of both the Consoles, I can easily say that the TV is amazing
Sponsored by LG, " its a TV".
It’s 1.5k tho
I got the 55 inch lg oled c1 for my ps5 and it is actually insane how nice the picture is
You must be an Ouya owner
@@agoogoo43 ahaha forgot about that thing
When you started Doom I was like, WOW, they both look like shit! Then realized my phone was running at 144p
💀💀
The most cursed profile picture on youtube.
Hahaha
lmao nice. perception 100
@@giornogiovanna4491?
This was a perfect comparison with both systems. I dont mind downloading all my games and having slight lesser performance, just to play games quick. S looks to be up to my speed with the budget price
I bought one a week ago and love it. Love Game Pass and fell in love with gaming again
Thanks to the series S I’m a gamer again I haven’t had an up-to-date system in probably 10 years
@@anthonyterry8162 yeah I bought one and now use the series s more than my ps5. Only because of game pass though I still like ps better
@@coastachancka I'm having so much fun with mine
I have a series S as well and I can barely tell the difference between the S and x
Easy way out:
not to bother anyway they never in stock
Yeah, I’m not even going to look to buy one until 5 months from now when they are likely to be more available. No way I’m buying one on eBay for 900. Lol.
I was just at Walmart and they have 3 X’s and like 5 S’s
@@xQuantom resell them bro easy money
@@xQuantom what the
@@2BTO sure, become part of the problem
If Linus kind of noticed a difference...you won’t at all lol
@David Davidson ill buy all your games for 15$ a better deal then you'd get anywhere else, I promise :D
Lmao
@David Davidson sell it to who? GameStop is on its last legs as a company. And they weren’t paying much as it was.
@@Alexanderpeters98 u will once shaders come out
??? He said DOOM looked like "dog crap" and "awful" on the Series S. This entire video showcases how much better the Series X performs.
I was really hoping he was gonna say the choice isn't black and white.
It isn't exactly black and white. The Series S is excellent for playing standard Xbox One games, which is nice considering the reduction in price.
@@jamescollins6085 (Black xbox vs white xbox)
@@Madman5465 Oh, I see lol. Thanks for informing me of the joke.
@@jamescollins6085 lol this was a genuine example of someone unironically missing the joke. it was great
@@brandond6926 Indeed. Better hope I don't get whooshed.
The S is surprisingly good. It's all I am going to say. There's a 60fps patch for Valhalla. Morrtal Kombat 11 runs surprisingly well and in frame (60fps). Be willing to manage the smaller SSD space with a set of games at a time and you will be set.
Bro I have a series and tbh it’s ok not that many series x/s games run at 60 fps
It’s a no out the same sort of ratio for ps5 or almost. I do prefer PlayStation in general but they don’t exist.
But you can see 60fps options for the S running about 1080p usually. Morta Kombat 11 is like a best case. Runs 60fps solid and near 4K
@@Raist3db all fighting games run at 60fps, new and old.
@@optionselleck2860 that’s not quite true. There’s been older fighting games running at 30fps (soul blade on ps1 for example). And soul calibur when they started to use the unreal engine had some stutters on its presentation
I find Mortla Kombat Uktimate quite quite solid with everything going on and high res.
@@Raist3db 99% of fighting games and any new fighting game, even ones from ps2 run at 60fps, they have to because that's how the moves are measured,
--frame data built to work within 60fps, no more or less. So the point is it's not impressive for mk or any fg to run at 60fps because that's exactly what they have to be, you can't have more or less, it's not about a quality thing..
"Optimization" and "Ubisoft " Are two words that don't go together
Don't have to worry about optimization if you don't optimize either game ;)
Ubisoft doesnt care about optimization. does it go together?
@@iffysphere0515 “Ubisoft cares about optimization on console and not PC” works as well
@@bramsey1 Not much on consoles too, but enough to make their games a good playable experience.
Have you heard of rainbow six siege
COD - **Sees Xbox Series S SSD*"
COD - "I am the SSD now"
The Xbox One S actually had a hard drive, not an SSD.
I know you meant "Series S", of course haha.
It's pretty hilarious that their names are so bad that nobody is realizing... even Linus ( 1:00 ) said it and seemingly nobody noticed LOL.
@@XFourty7 yup, apparently the sales of Xbox One X shot up 700% on the day of next gen release, poor people probably won't realise they got the wrong one until little Timmy has a tantrum on Christmas morn
@@lordythegreat88 Omfg. Didn't even consider that, but damn... That's both sad and amazing in its own way. :X
@@lordythegreat88 hopefully we will have some good compilations of 12 year olds having breakdowns cuz they got the wrong console
@@XFourty7 oh yeah, I accidentally typed out one x, that's a big oof on my part
When the Series S started moving on it's own it was almost like "Look it's Linus....Lets just get it over with"
lmao
Xbox Series Seppuku
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@@transcending6959 CLICKBAIT!!
@@transcending6959 we don't care
Got the Series S, first console ive bought for myself, had it for almost a year now. Pretty solid buy. Used it to play a bunch of games thats on the game pass, now I mostly use it as a media box, until new stuff comes out.
Textures always poppin in while I'm needing alone time
Love your connecting scammers to each other videos 🙂
@the hoax hotel u should make vids where u call the scammers and be rude from the beginning
What the heck what are you doing here, and where's my demurrage fee?
@@karas3248 I need to see that. How it's called?
@@IIARROWS just look on his channel lol
I like how Linus kept calling them 'One' rather than Series.
haha...
@Lemuel Fikreyohannes and?
@Lemuel Fikreyohannes im confused as to what that had to do with the actual comment
@@TotallyCreativeNameBtw ikr
@Lemuel Fikreyohannes Thank you, very cool
doom eternal is a backwards compatibility game isn’t it? series s runs the one s version of the game not the x
It is a backwards compatible game, however I do not know if it runs the one s or the Xbox series x version of it
@@ryzech4168 its confirmed that the series s will run the one s version of games if running via backcompat
@@thatguyoncheese yes ,the games u buy are a licence to play the game it isnt a right to own a certain version of a game
Yes, Doom Eternal has a One X enhanced version so that's what the Series X will beplaying. The Series S will be playing the One S version. Until the optimised Series versions come out.
Yes doom eternal came out purposely to prove that 1080p games Still Rock on the new systems and both of the new system can stream 1440p to the internet which is better than one Doom Eternal signal to most tv still upscale 1080p. 72 inch tv
After this video, I feel I should save money and get the S model.
thats what i ended up doing too, only thing thats an issue is storage space. and with AAA games being 100 gigs or close it gets cramped easily.
@@txmwxl Get external SSD. You can move to and fro.
@@androidwonderland yea but i have a lot of next gen games, a lot of external ssd's dont allow you to play next gen games off of the ssd. the seagate expansion card is too expensive so i'll just have to deal with it
Can I use my external drive from the original Xbox One to the Series S? If so I'll just get the S. It'll be like having a $300 console with 2.5 tb storage. Graphics are good but not worth the extra $200 for the X.
@@sambeezy007 yes u can, although u cant play next gen games straight off the drive.
I love how a mainly pc gamer looks at that texture pop in after returning from the bird and is suprised by how "bad" it is. where as I'm sitting over here, mainly a console gamer still, thinking, "dang that pop in is so much better than it used to be."
He also said there wasn't much of a difference between X and S, but there was, the textures on the X loaded in like four times as fast.
Lmao 😂
Linus: "Xbox series X vs series S"
Also Linus: *talks about his tv that nobody can afford*
The 49 Inch isnt That expensive
@@bobzombii8038 it’s a grand
@@jameswalte6994 $1500
Nice to know that Linus audience is beggers or poor kids :)
@@kigasdj2 yeah I’m broke 😎
Linus: look at the difference
TH-cam: let's compress the hell out of this so no one sees the difference
Me: it looks the same
Being captured off-screen, out of focus with reflexes and such, is worse then YT compression.
@@IIARROWS Normal people dont understand that with youtube upload compression you cannot tell for sure if it is the way it looks in real life. Even if the capture would be perfect.
Dunno what quality you're watching on, but you can tell a difference at 1440p. Especially when they showed doom eternal, yikes.
@@Virginiafox21 You can clearly tell the difference. But in real life the difference could be even bigger.
hah
The thing is, not everyone has a 4K display. Most of the people I know, me included still use 1080p monitors and are more than fine with that. I was expecting to see what difference it’d make on one of those.
@Terminalforlife (LL) congrats man I’m thinking about getting a ps5 digital or Xbox series x even tho I have series s, maybe I’ll get Xbox one x but that’s the fattest maybe ever and I can basically only buy a friggin switch lite (it cost 200) and I think the digital ps5 cost 400 I only think, Xbox series x cost 500 but I mean..my 4 years of collecting money off the floor paid off 200 DOLLARS
@@SenkuTheScience don’t bother getting a one x. It’s the previous generation.
@@cosmofoxgaming1268 I mean..does it upscale to 4k or just regularly at 4k idk if I didn’t get the series s and I’m if I was somewhat broke I’d get a one S or one x, like I said this is hypothetical so if I was broke I’d get either one of those :/
@@SenkuTheScience I think the series s is a great price. They’re everywhere by where I live for £180 used !
@@cosmofoxgaming1268 oh yeah by the way I found the halo exclusive xbox series x for 947…why do people always overprice
Appreciate Linus not taking the easy way out and saying “the difference isn’t Black and White”
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@@transcending6959 No it isn't lol, and I'm not clicking
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Why?
@@transcending6959 Because you're a dirty spammer trying to get clicks. 🖕
@@transcending6959 1) They're a company, only idiots blindly trust companies to start with
2) spamming videos in the comments pretty much guarantees it's laughable garbage that can't get views otherwise
One thing I learned from this video *the series S is pretty damn good/cheap*
Def is a amazing console for a budget!
👍👍 This video should help ease people's minds a bit more to buy the budget friendly option. It's still a brilliant choice, you'll have access to all the new gen games and features. Plus most people won't even notice a change at all once they adjust to it anyways. If I wasn't sold on the S before I am now.
Yea only downside is storage
I'm getting the s bc it's cheaper and I don't play graphic demanding games like he was
@@wavy0ski you can get a USB port 2tb external for half the price
Linus: “One X, One S”
Me: “No no no Linus, that’s the last gen!”
Linus adding to the major confusion
@Shikibane i guess you never seen the USB naming scheme then
One x. One ass
I think Linus said One as in this one is. Like how you we got one vanilla flavour and one chocolate flavour.
@@VGScreens because of a naming scheme ? I would like to introduce you to pc gaming if you think xbox's naming scheme is confusing
I got the S. I am so happy with it. It's just such a good deal and the games run like a charm. Do note I am coming from PC gaming and I am pretty picky, but so far Xbox S was a bliss.
And the fact that it's so small and portable is so great for bringing it to your friends/relatives house etc. It's lovely.
And for the small storage - just buy a 40 EUR external storage and you're set. YES, not all games can be run from HDD. There's a way to check whether the game demands to be run from the internal SSD or will it run from HDD, and most games do.
So, I just download the games that can run from HDD to the HDD, while use the SSD for the rest.
@@ojasgadekar they load slower yes, but they still load at the same speed as xbox one games (on an xbox one, if your hdd is fast enough which it should be)
You guys really need to record at 60FPS when trying to demonstrate differences in framerates and "smoothness". It's completely imperceptible when your video is 30FPS. Even if most of your video is rendered at 30FPS and just 60FPS in the side-by-side comparison shots.
no, watching 60 fps "none gamplay" videos on youtube is not that good, 30 fps gives cinematography effect, recording at 60 fps feels weird to watch, there's a good reason if cinema standard is 24 or 25 fps
Who needs 60fps when the video is shot on a 16k camera 😂
@@Tonyx.yt. They literally edited together a gameplay comparison of framerates, no one cares about cinematography when the goal is to show a side-by-side comparison of information that is literally missing from your video.
If you want to keep the cinematography, like I already said, render the video at 30fps except when you are explicitly showing a framerate comparison.
@@noahcuroe or better yet, just slow down the footage by 50% so the difference in framerate can actually be seen at 30fps without having to jump between different framerates in your video, this whole video seems to be pretty low effort though tbh, from other comments i've read it seems that doom eternal on the series s is actually running with the same settings as the one s, since it hasn't yet been optimised, but from the video you would get the impression that the game isn't able to look better on the hardware, just pure laziness tbh
@@Tonyx.yt. CiNeMaToGraPHiC eFfEct
7:06 "A ton of optimization from Ubisoft" That's very funny Linus. Best joke i've heard this year.
I had to do a double take on that. I couldn't believe that sentence was, eherm, _dropped._
@@papayer linus joke tips
Remove the DRM and latest ubisoft installment will run as slick as an eel.
It’s funny bc in this case, ubisofts “optimizations” were that it was natively series s and x compatible, but then he goes into doom eternal that hasnt even gotten the next gen update yet lol. The only reason ubisoft looks optimized here is bc doom eternal is unoptimized!!
Honestly the Series X is so hard to get right now that a Series S is just fine for now and much easier to get. If you're a true graphics snob then build a PC.
@Gregory5331 Yeah...no. Series s is ideal for 3rd world countries where games and PCs are extremely expensive. Either wait for PS5 or build a PC if you have the cash.
Actually that's not entirely true. Many PC gamers still run 1080p on high settings as it's way more affordable to do so. For the average gamer the XS is a effing steal at its price point. And for those who are on a budget still rocking a 1080p or 720p TV you'll never miss not having true 4K. My plasmas keep me occupied til OLED hit that right price in the next year or so, enjoy.
@@Arda-dq4rt A 1060TI Graphics card in the US is the price of a Xbox series X rn so no in the US is gonna be building a PC rn
@@duiwithc4corvette403 investing the extra to get the PC, (2x 3x 4x) is worth it IF you have the cash regardless if you are a 1080p gamer. Xbox wont get you nowhere near as many games. Also you can use certain methods where you can play games for free on PC rather than cashing out 80 dollars moving forward. Xbox is not so cheap if you are a harcore gamer wanting to play a lot of games. GamePass wont solve all your issues. But I understand the appeal. In Turkey where consoles are 1000$ certainly makes it easier to just save the extra for PC.Add the significant income and fiat differences, building a PC in US even with the elevated scalper prices is extremely cheap compared to 3rd world countries. It takes so long to save enough money here. Value the opportunities and prices you have :)
@@Arda-dq4rt Bro no one would invest double the price of the parts original price, I’d rather wait until the market settles let alone 4x.
FSR 2.1 on the Series S will be a welcome update to boost FPS significantly! I'm very curious how Cyperpunk 1.6.1 performs on Series S!
Great. Runs at 60fps now.
Okay, Linus you did an Oopsie , Doom looks worse because it is running One S version on Series S and One X version on Series X. They are in their backwards compatibility mode while Valhalla is a cross gen game designed for next gen.
Regardless of which version it's running, that is still the experience you get on Series S.
@@quinnfoto Until they receive the ''optimized for series'' which will be already available when they get in stock. (I'm just guessing)
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@@transcending6959 stop linking random videos to give that channel dislikes.
@@quinnfoto , well, if you get a C10, you are prob not bying a Series S anyway.
An equally/more relevant comparison would be to run both an a 1080p/cheap 4k screen, since that is more the target for the Series S.
linus: LOOK AT THIS THIS IS AWFUL
me and my gt 1030: i mean, i guess
Hahaha.. I understand your suffering when i want to build a cheap PC for my sister i was considering buying GT 1030 but I was saved by the video on Yoututbe who showed me even the IGPU on Ryzen 5 3400G is better than GT 1030.
@@XperiencePureness wish I watched that video. (Sad face)
Honestly, you'd have been better off going used market at that point. Can find some cheap ass Radeon (R9 280X, 7970 etc.) cards, assuming you're in a country with a decent used marketplace anyway.
me- has uhd 620 why are we still here just to suffer every moment....
I have gtx 1050
Mobile gtx 1050
Linus: what’s the difference?
Me: the letter
🤨
and size and price! (damn that rhymed xD)
@@Cedrinate lmao how
@@Cedrinate what rhymed...?
@@Cedrinate That did not rhyme bruh, are you dyslexic or something
Series X does something magic. I ran the first Assassin's Creed title, 2008, transferred to x360 around 2010. The game looks astonishing even for being 14 years old. It has also been proven here in this video that Series X does somehow improve the graphics.
Attempting to purchase either one is the real challenge.
😂 😂 True that man, i have a 4K tv but my heart say get the Series S cause it is so pretty ♥️
Having money to buy is a real challenge
Yes :(
I still can’t believe I got the s. So happy because it looks way more modern. Can’t wait for next gen gaming. 4 days till it arrives
@@eligijusbucinskas2221 can what you can afford, don't put yourself under pressure cause of the comments you see on Twitter or YT.. I planning to get a Series S cause i have better things to do rather than gaming. I have a family to look after, what is my baby boy gon eat or wear if i am to spend everything i have on gaming?
Conclusion:
Series x is THICC!!
Series S is smol.
I got the thicc one to compensate for my gf..
@@jwan7830 :(
@@jwan7830 your girl going leave you for that one lol
@@jwan7830 oof
@@vpr_dalton he might be sticking something in his series X, Not his storage though if u know what i mean.
The Series S is primarily for gamers like myself that are on a 10 year old 1080p TV and don't intend to upgrade anytime soon. It is designed to play optimally on that (or 1440p) resolution with upscaling to 4K an additional feature. The faster loading time and low input latency are the winners for me and why I will soon upgrade from my One S.
But 4K TVs are like nothing...
@@Knights_of_the_Nine for you maybe. Form me living in South Africa, gaming is a luxury. I have much more important things to spend my money on than buying a new TV while my old one is still perfectly fine. A 4K TV won't make me a better gamer ;-)
Ayo if ur a competitive gamer there is absolutely no need for 4k, all you need is 120fps, and so isn’t series s the best deal?
@Cantdothis212 Because it has clear benefits specifically for the games that I play. The main game that I play, Pinball FX3, clearly put users with the least amount of input lag at an advantage. That is one clear area where the Xbox Series is vastly improved on the Xbox One. The cost of the S is cheap for what you get and low enough that I don't have to go too much out of my way to buy it if I e.g. sell my Xbox One S.
Buying an X will just be pointless for me at this stage. I will not be able to make use of it unless I buy a much more expensive TV that have HDMI 2.1 input. That is just not viable for me or at all a priority.
@@varu6220
Competitive gaming....
Ya okay. Whatever kind of soulless person considers themselves competitive gamers?
If you game for profit of any kind, build a PC...
If you don't make money, why not actually have fun?
One thing I'm disappointed Linus didn't say is that both series Xboxes s/x can use USB storage at launch it was iffy on what Titles would be USB playable but even then it was quick to shift games back and forth as alot if games would come close to 100gb and the 512gb (realistically 300gb after os and provisioning) ssd only gave you five games with it space, but shifting games to my external and back again was typically minutes and I could play other titles while data was transferred . Now after several patches alot more games will play off USB (sorry no definitive list) even games that demanded internal storage will now run off USB (I'm not saying every game will but both cyberpunk and avengers demanded to be on the internal on my system and recently for some reason started working off the external). Usually Linus is so thorough and tries some extra out of the box stuff in his review it felt odd he's absolutely right 200 for double the storage she a blu ray drive is a pretty decent deal But some of us have a blu ray player or don't even use blu rays so the only really advantage left was storage so I was surprised he didn't do a thing on how games load off USB (comparative loading times) how long transfers take to provide on what you really give up by getting the s. I'm also suprised that no review I've seen even Linus hasn't talked about upscaling as most 4k tvs have done sorry of upscaler for non 4 k sources. Does a good upscaler help out the series s. Does the x benefit from a upscaler etc. Just my 2 cents overall a great review
Yea the 10 seconds load time was pointless
Yeah, I was kind of hoping he was going to bring this stuff up. I have an 8tb HDD and wanted to know the performance differences sense It will be a while before I get a card. I know for some people every second and graphics matter, but for me, it does not. I just want a cheap way to play next-gen games sense we are now getting to the point that developers are cutting last generation support.
Linus: "Look at that fuzzy face"
I do every time you host one of these videos
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@@transcending6959 Ignore this loser, it's my video
@@VicVlog Got us in the first half, not gonna lie...
7:20 something tells me Linus isn’t aware that doom eternal didnt receive next gen updates yet (even a month and a half later as of writing this). What Linus is seeing on series s here is the Xbox ONE version, NOT one made for series s, so if you want to play doom eternal now on your series s then good luck, but if you wait a little bit your results will likely be very different
Yeah I feel that is really important to point out. Unless it has been specifically optimized for the series s, it is running the one s version. I’m surprised they didn’t know that and compare games that were actually optimized.
UPDATE: As of today (6/29/2021) Doom eternal has in fact received series s/x optimizations! What does this mean for you? If youre looking at a Series S: It is much different! 1080p120 or 1440p60, making this game look much better and/or run much smoother. If youre looking at Series X: not much has changed for you, although now you can check out Doom Eternal with raytracing!
@@idrinkbbq5927 you actually remember wtf
@@idrinkbbq5927 i really appreciate you giving us an update on how the game runs because the version Linus showed was really off putting. Thanks man!
@@savbeeing7376 i’m surprised just as you 😂
"Xbox Series X vs. Series S - Which to choose?"
I'd prefer either one if both of them weren't out of stock
These two sound cool. But I think Im sticking to ps5 for obvious reasons lol
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ay ay ay Justin Y.
hi Justin 👁️👄👁️
Screw the department in charge of the launch...
What a shitty way to end the year
The SSDs in these systems are monsters compared to last gen hardware like the Xbox one x or the PS4 pro
@@copingflower1909 Bought my uncles used Series X for cheap 2 weeks ago. INSANE difference in loadtimes compared to the Xbox one
Oh. I found not public video :) Hi from Poland!
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Hello from Atlantic Canada!
czesc from New Jersey!
hey poland heres denmark
I like the s, but all my 360 and one discs aren’t just magically going away because it’s cheaper
I should edit my first console was the launch day one, up to that point I only had the Nintendo ds and gameboy so I went back and bought 360 titles that had great reputation and played them on my one, which technically is my “family” Xbox so yeah being off at college I’d like a way to play all my games
Finaly I found someone in the comments who has disc too. I was thinking the same, series S would be enough for me, but I need a way to play my old games so series S is a no no. Thanks Microsoft
Can't agree more. To my the S is for someone that wants a few games on it to play COD, Fornite and so on that aren't going to buy tons or that wants a few on Gamepass/or as a second console even if for the cheap price, but us Disk users need the more expensive ones to keep using our older (4 generation of Xbox games) and newer games on them. And I'm not selling them for a digital code either.
Though as I have no Original Xbox, 2 360 (1 with Internet, 1 without), and a One/One X I think it's clear what I've using my Original Xbox and 360 games on.
Testing what the old can do is cool still and using it for new is important/giving it the proper use, but yeah otherwise the lists just aren't worth it if you have the older consoles or certain games you can't (cough and the Xbox Original on Xbox One list is just not worth it to me compared to the 360's BC, it's good and has a few on there I want but not enough to count it worth while compared to the few 360 I tried on the One). And as I've just started collecting for Original Xbox now the ones I wanted like Project Gotham Racing 1 & 2 aren't on Xbox One's list so no point in moving forward for them, so the 360s will do.
I had the same thought process for a bit, until I actually looked at my gaming collection for the 360 (skipped MS last gen). I was REALLY into Capcom and fighting games back then so those were all physical. My two sticks wouldn't work on the S or the X, so I'm still stuck with that system for those games. I have the best luck when it comes to gaming (your screen should be sticky from the sarcasm oozing from those words). Almost 75% of the other games I bought physical were later released a free games on Gold back when they actually let you keep the games.
Fast forward to 12AM on the 11th, when I finally get home and get to open the Series S I was able to get from Walmart. I have 34 games available in my library, $15 in a my Live account that has to have been sitting there for 6+ years, and the offer for Game Pass Ultimate for $1. After using the offer (and finding out I also have enough Bing Rewards points for 3 more months) to fill in the blanks, out of my entire library I'm missing Lost Odyssey and some random OG Xbox games I was given when I first got the 360 and needed something to play.
All in all, I'm very satisfied with what I got. I gave up a disc drive and some extra power under the hood for $200. 800GB wasn't going to be enough for my BC library, so I still would have needed to get extra storage even if I bought the Series X. My 4K TV can't do 120HZ, but I have a great 1080P projector. Now, had I been planning to upgrade either of those in the next few years, I probably would have bought a Series X.... A year from now.
I think that we should just wait for a few more months or maybe a year for the next version of these consoles. See the difference between the OG Xbox One and the final One X?
I wouldn't be surprised if there will probably be a disc drive accessory
I don’t care how my game looks, as long it’s a clear and smooth gaming experience then I’m happy
Same
“ I don’t care how my game looks as long as it’s clear” oh ok well duh lol
Well thats an oxymoron
Thats like saying "I dont care how my girlfriend looks, as long as she is a perfect 10
@@renegadepuppy bro i have a doubt - i want to play open worlds only - gta v , watch dogs legion , far cry 6 , rdr2 , mafia , cyberpunk etc. all these games are available for xbox one cds ( each cd under 28 $ ) ... i can play all i want offline , the reason to buy next generation console is only the GTA 6.. and when it will release i will buy it online or brought a GTA 6 cd.. i don't have much time to play 1000+ games , i just want the few games of this generation ( named above ) and 1 or 2 from next gen. .... i understand that if you brought CDs that will cost more , but that's not issue.. i want to play maximum of 12 games and that's not need to me to play optimised games with ultra graphics ( special XS games )and if i pay for gamepass 10$ every month + 5$ internet for play ) it will cost almost same after 5 month .. CDs are parmanent and i will not face issue of storage.. as i can restall that games after delete for free of cost so , now say what do you think .. btw i can sell my CDs but not online games or account..so please suggest Xbox series X or S for offline with value of money
When developers begin to concentrate more fully on the X rather than splitting resources between that and the S I wonder if the differences in performance will be greater.
Not really the only reason someone would get the series x is to get the bet of the best they focus more on the Sirius s because the series s is a long term console that over time it will get better with updates
@@pooticus2489 And so will the Series X. Which is why this person made their comment in the first place because they're working on both and thus have less focused efforts on improvement.
I would say its more so, when they stop making games for the Xbox one/previous gen, is when we will see what both consoles are capable of.
@@bertbutler5984 have a feeling that’s going to be sooner than we think honestly I’m all for it I wanna see just how far my series s can go
@Chris Madison Exactly, which is exactly why they're less focused.
6:43
We might've been able to notice it if the whole video wasn't in 30fps. GG guys.
Video title: Xbox Series X vs Series S
Linus: Talks about his TV.
Everyone: Nice.
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@@akmedia8206 poodle?
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3:00 Wow... Linus is now using the Force to try and drop things! He doesn't even need to touch them anymore!
Linus jedi confirmed
@@CaptainBanana More like sith
I actually just bought the series s lastnight and honestly. I’m very happy and impressed with this little console
I have both
...Series s is very good too
The TV is amazing
Yeah love mine, well worth it!
@@waldolemmer I mean you do have a spare...
Oled still burn into some áreas
@@MaikeLDave correctly, you are right, but OLED much better anyway: it has an ideal black colour, highest brightness and widest contrast ratio.
@@georgeastaldo5159 You are right, but the main thing is that i dont want to stay worried about get burn with games HUD, or this kind of things, i just want to enjoy my tv.
Hey Linus, the Doom version is the Xbox ONE S version in the Series S, the Series X have optimizations that the S has not.
Yep. It's funny Linus or his team wouldn't know that key information. 🤷♀️🤷♂️
Yup Doom runs at 900p for Series S with default X1 backwards compatibility. This was a poor review to sell LG TVs. Like someone who could afford an OLED would then buy the cheapest Xbox around.
Every other review I've seen mentions this, even guys with like 1000 subs. Meanwhile big ol Linus is playing 900p "vcr" xbox one games on a series X and complaing about the graphics😔
Sure Microsofts implementation could have been better but you could have done some bare minimum research and played one of there optimised games listed below
www.xbox.com/en-AU/games/optimized
Or you know at least mention that your playing a last gen version of doom.
@@GarbageTakes Series X uses the One X enhanced version on Doom, while Series S uses the plain old One version at 900p. Likely an enhanced version for Series S would run at 1440p adaptive resolution with a minimum of 1080p, aside from other improvements.
@The Anonymous Apdroid going for series x.
POV: You’re too broke to afford either one of these, but you’re watching anyways to see which is best.
Not really there buying my old console so I don’t need to
nah i got the x and ps5
To se the difference between one and another not to see wich is best since that is obvious
Who is too broke to afford $500-300?
@@joebenson528 me
I got the S because it was cheeper and I didn’t mind the quality as much as other people. And the storage is not a problem as of now because i only plan on playing elden ring for the foreseeable future. I never really buy physical games anymore and the S is super small and easy to carry around when traveling.
be honest, you dont leave the basement
Same, and games still actually look good on it to me.
@@DG-kr8pt Because he plays Elden Ring? The 1st/2nd most likely game to win GOTY? Best game in atleast 2 years? And maybe he just hasn't played a lot of different games yet, and sticks to the kind of which he enjoys the most? YOU know nothing. Not to try to show off, but I am pretty sure I would beat you in any aspect/activity ever.
does it play next gen games
@@jonathanholloman5575 yes
Realistically though somebody who is going to be buying the Xbox Series S is probably not going to have that fancy pants TV.
Exactly, it's for the people who don't have 4k
I dunno, my wife and I both find the S really attractive because of its smol size and steep discount, even though we have several 4K TVs and top end gaming PCs and all that stuff. I guess we just don't consider consoles to be where we look for good graphics to begin with.
@@Adahop yes there will definitely be people like yourself, but I think a lot of the reviewers are forgetting that the biggest market for consoles is the same as ever - kids.
@Dindu "Price per frame" doesn't mean shit to parents who are buying it for their kids and that 200 dollars extra for the Series X feels way more expensive than it does to you because of salary
@@star215 Yeah but imagine all the parents out there who buy the Series S and it can't even play all of the games they previously purchased.
The problem with comparing games like Doom Eternal is that you're actually playing the Xbox One X or Xbox One S versions of the games. So the Series S is playing a version developed for 1.4tflops
Yeah, they didn't really put a ton of research into this video. They also didn't mention that ac Valhalla runs at 60fps with adaptive resolution on the series x. And the fact that ubisoft games are known for their mediocre optimization.
A game like gears 5 would be a much better comparison.
I doesn't matter. They compared the same game. And we all know that the series s will look and perform alot worst.
@@romariowilliams3893 well it does matter because its not representative of the Series S capabilities
@@carllavery4442 the writing is on the wall. There have been multiple videos showing the series s dropping to 900p and only doing 1080p 60fps is some games. No raytracing in some games and not being able to do 1440 60fps on most games. Less than 400gb of usable space. But believe what you want but the series s is a bad buy and will be obsolete by the end of next year.
yeah I can't believe microsoft left Sereies S with only 10GB RAM so it can't run One X version. They really meant Series S to be an inferior experience.
The Series S is such a good deal to me! Just because I already have a PC so I use consoles as a social experience
I have just built a pc and have a ps5 and am thinking of getting an S.
@@-TheRealCozmik- Walmart / Bestbuy / Target / GameStop
@@Captain-Chats same
enjoy only 8 games
@@spritegaming471 grow up
Additionally, if you collect physical movies, having a Blu-ray player integrated into the entire package is great. Isn't really a replacement if you are a hardcore cinephile but it works, and saves space.
I don't know anyone who still has disks. That's a dead technology.
@@johnpreston230 Which is unfortunate, it's becoming harder and harder to actually own a movie and be free to watch it whenever you want. Now you have to pay a subscription, and the second that stops being paid, it's gone.
@@Beanpolr you can pirate the movie if you want or buy digital versions of the movie then copy it onto a disk that can run in your drive??? Just because the tech is moving forward doesn't mean you can't do a little leg work for your physical dvd obsession lol. The next gen of console i doubt there will be any disc option at all considering this societal "meta" boom is happening. Your console will probably be loaded on a pc one day lol. The PlayStation app and Xbox app that runs seperate, and you just pay 400 dollars for a key, like a piece of PC software. FR tho. I don't support pirating movies, but if you need to watch or play on a disc. Do it while you can... Cartridges were the old medium... Did you hysterically chase down every last cartridge back in the day and cherish them till now? or did you start collecting dvd's instead? This is the way of the "future" its gimmicky, but it will save space and waste man. All of those discs and cd cases, Maybe you just like looking at cases? They will make a vr movie room with all of your movies on shelves that you design. There is no escaping what is coming with consumer electronics man.
I like how he called them "One X" and "One S" at the end of the intro. 😆
Lol I caught that too. 😆
Thats how dumb and confusing xbox naming is.
I think he meant one series x and one series s
Bugged me. I had to look for a comment relating to it 😭🤣
I mean, to be fair they have an awful naming scheme. I don't know how it's been this long and Microsoft still hasn't learned a thing about how to name something.
It would be nice if you would have clarified whether you were running the games in Performance or Quality mode because most games have the ability to switch between the two. The difference obviously comes down to their target framerates. Most games (Especially Doom Eternal) will target 120fps with a sacrifice in visual quality in Performance mode and target 60fps with better visuals in Quality mode.
for doom eternal at the time there was no new gen patch, so he was comparing the xbox one s to the xbox one x version lol.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe oh ok thanks for the clarification
@@SSenderling currently on the series s doom eternal runs at either 1440p 60fps or 1080p with lowered visuals at 120fps, linus was shitting on it when he was playing the xbox one version which was made for 2013 hardware lol.
The series s is just perfect for the kids like me with divorced parents. Perfect size to carry in your backpack, imagine trying to do that with the ps5. You would need a pickup truck to move that unit. 😂
Kids these days. I used to load an original Xbox and all the stuff I'd need for a sleep over in a back pack then ride my bike 5 miles to my friends house. And it was uphill both ways in 300 feet of snow!!!!
@@mrfatibe yeah okay but in that same backpack I have to put a laptop cloths and all my school books 📚
Lmao thats a big reason why im getting a series s 😂😂
same
Idk if i should cry or laugh at this comment
5:50 the texture popping is probably due to Ubisoft’s amazing optimisation!
i can't imagine linus without a beard anymore
at the point that if you watch an old video you could be scared
It really suits him
I have both. I love them both very much. It's actually hard for me to see a difference. I play my Series X on a 4K 120Hz Sony Bravia, and use my Series S as a portable system using a 4K integrated portable GStory monitor. It's 12.5 inch and can do 120FPS at 1080p
@yt 1234 - I would go with the Series S. You already have a PC and PS5. Save yourself the money and buy the Series S.
A minute to start a game, and 5 hours to download the update.
Your internet must be ass
Rip wifi lol
*@Larson907*
This is the future, man. deal with it or buy a PC.
1. Then you should probably invest in better Internet, not a gaming console.
2. If that's not an option, just go to sleep and wake up with the new update installed.
lol damn that must be some ass internet
“This look likes dog crap” me with a 720p tv
me playing on a 30 year old crt
@@Wab2007 me gaming on my little brothers etch n sketch
@@myself9030 me playing on my little sisters leapfrog
Why I’m getting a monitor
Seriously!! Most people can barely afford these consoles in the first place! What makes them think we can afford that OLED??!!
I like how he said the texture popping is terrible, and my poor butt is like "man, that ain't too bad!" lol
great video and thank you for keeping it short and to the point.
as usual great content all around!
also the tv bitly link doesn't work for me o-o..
I just tried it and yeah it seems down for me too.
They added a "The" at the end by accident
@@rpjordan yeah checks out. just delete "the" at the end it works. I guess "The" was supposed to go the next sentence
It’s $1500 anyways
A 1500 dollar tv is a scam
6:25 "This is the X and immediately I'm noticing a lot of the same things I noticed last time I played around with the X." -Linus Sebastian 2020
For me, that disc drive is the deal breaker for the Series S. I own a lot of physical Xbox One games and want to migrate it over to the next gen consoles without spending more than I need to.
I was honestly thinking the same thing. My wife just bought me the Series S as a surprise and while I'm SUPER thankful I was wondering what I would do about all of my physical Xbox One games. However, my old Xbox One VCR works just fine so if I can still use it when I want to play one of my physical games. Just can't beat the price point of the series S tbh.
That’s the reason I got a series x. Otherwise I most likely would have gotten an S. Oh, and SSD size.
The opposite for me. Last console I had was Sony. Since I'm starting from zero I wanted everything online, no discs to store.
I have been using Xbox’s since the first one so I had amassed a huge collection of games and having a console which can upscale and play all these games is such a great thing along with it having extra starting memory with better graphics, worth $749 aud.
external USB disk drive 11.99$
Your camera is very good I like the quality of the video
I’m kinda mad that the thumbnail doesn’t line up with the title
Now I can't unsee it. Thanks a lot 🙄
Damn,it took me a very long time to notice that
Thx a lot for it BUDDY
Went from one S to series s.... 100% worth it. The difference is HUGELY noticeable. Then I got a 4K TV (series has netflix/youtube at 4K) and wowie. It’s amazing. The increase is so amazing and I highly highly recommend doing it. Series S Also has 60fps in most games I’ve played as of yet.
it has 120 to
@@_ballctrl_5714 can it run 120 on fortnite and rocket league?
@@jonah1110 yup
@@jonah1110 as i've seen, it can also run 120 fps on rainbow six siege on a performance mode, however when you turn that option on, the screen tearing is really bad
Is there any problems with storage
They look cool but I haven't been caught in the hype. I don't see any game at the moment to make me buy one. I'll stick to my current console probably for a long time. 🎮
Honestly. My heavily modded ps4 slim has a few more years in it i think
I'd recommend buying a PS5 when god of war ragnarok comes out and Xbox series in 2022, when third party games stop coming out for previous gen
In my opinion New gens console aren't worth until a year after launch
@@mouadtalbi4170 why
@@baljeet8597 I don't know, maybe because there are possibilities for upcoming issues and exclusives are coming a bit late? Price can have a chance to drop by other markets with sales, and stocks will be higher
While it’s not perfect you can store and swap files around for x/s optimized games on a usb external drive. You can also play xbox one, 360, and original xbox games directly from it. It makes it a lot cheaper to have a lot more storage with not much of a headache.
Linus: it's terrible you can see the texture load for 0.5 seconds
Me playing gta 4 on my old Dell: haha nice one
Linus is a snob and he is allowed to be XD
@@OldMockingbird i know XD
series s runs one s' version of doom eternal that runs at 900p max, that's why it looks like dogshit compared to x
Yeah, its the back compat, not the best test tbh
@@ConanOG it's pretty much just 1080p since it's upscaled 900p
Oh wow, didn't realize that.
are u sure u mean i feel sad for no reason all this time? i have the xbox one 2013 i know about the 900p but are u sure that that was hapening on the xbox one s to? i was feeling bad because i thought it was only 900p for the xbox one 2013
I mean yeah poor comparison but then again it is true to life, someone buys S and plays doom? that's what they'll get.
that was a buttery smooth segway to the sponsor holy. smoother than my youtube videos at 480 fps
Ok?
Actually doom was running through backwards compatibility.
But recently they released a next gen patch and the both consoles look so crisp
I love how a full powered off console will still quick resume just as fast
When did Doom get it's optimization patch? The series S is running the One S version and the series X is running the One X version.
Exactly .. !! His only intention was to sell the LG TV
5:42 there no "texture pop in" is just the mipmaps doing their job.
Imagine if the texture were fully loded at full res all the time even when you are not seeing em?
why you would want that?, that would be just wasted resources.
And it's better than what Origins and Odyssey does where you're forced to wait for your surroundings to "reload".
Texture LOD streaming from low to high , still something that can be eliminated with some code.
Hi thanks for the video, very helpful
2:41 things that linus heard on his wedding night
The only similarity is that you couldn't pre order both.
Where i live the S you can get easily (or so it seems)
...x on the other hand.
Well i preordered a month ago, still no news.
@@supervegito2277 Ye same... I went to Costco yesterday and they had a shit load of series s in stock
@@raymond4955 ngl I unlike what Linus said I think no one wants the series s since well it's doesn't rly classifie as a next generation console and since it's almost Xmas I think people is willing to spend the extra cash also the average non techy person would probably only consider the series x considering all the headlines on it compared to it's little brother... Also guys I'm gonna try and buy a ps5 wish me luck I don't kill myself with everyone trying to buy one at the same time and these stupid botes
@@lolthepop324alois8 Xbox all access might also come into play.
The difference in price between the 2 with all access is... like a medium sized burger a month.
60 dkk difference. 85 for a double cheese.. which was the first thing i could thini off to describe the difference across countries.
@@lolthepop324alois8 Honestly, the Series S just feels like a massive waste of time to me. Sure, still faster load times but i can't imagine it will age well, especially if they release pro models down the line. I would deeefinitely stick with the ps5 or series x.
Just remember that with the series s the difference isn't going to be as big with the two consoles, because most people will be playing the s on much smaller screens at 1080 to 1440 not on 4k screens, thats what the x is for. The difference isn't going to be as big because Linus is playing on an amazing TV.
i dont think a lot of gamers buy the series x for higher resolution, the series x provides a more stable framerate and more dev support, it is sad but the series x seems more future proof
It's a stupid test. Something designed to run at 4k beats something that doesn't output at 4k. I never would have guessed the result 😂😮
The only thing that would make the series S a competitive console would be the availability to have your physical library transferred to digital. It would end up costing you just about as much or more as the price of the series x if you have a large physical library. I like my series x
And while you could, in theory, re-purchase most of your games digitally, if any of the physical games you have are delisted, you won't be able to at all. It's why I prefer the Series X too.
the first LG link goes to a bitly page not found error, might be "The" at the end, included in the link.
It is. If you remove the extra characters you get to the correct page.
I am actually used to play on the Wii that I don't care about how good image quality looks, but how good the games are and how much you enjoy them, and that is why I am sticking with the series S Which is also my first Xbox.
Good
holy crud, are we just going to ignore the fact Linus performed a miracle? He caught something without dropping it! 2020 really is a crazy year
Just got a series s for my son. He's 7 and plays minecraft and fortnite mostly so I figured while the s was in stock I'd grab it for his Xmas present.
"let the user decide"
Me chuckling to myself quietly
@@Gosti85 Like Horizon 4
The moment the Series S woke up and saw that it was in front of Linus it immediately commits seppuku.
so u decided to summon the weebs
I mean the S is literally trash
Tanjiro
@@Solid_Snake99 I mean it’s not
@@northstarrr8716 have you seen 30fps on the S?
My concern with the existence of the Series S with the scenario that developers at least first party are probably required to make games run on it, which may hurt developers ability to push the series X to it's limit; A lot of developers have expressed concerns. Best case scenario would be reducing polygon/textures for art, but this might cause some rework from artists...more dev $$/time. Worst case if the extra ram,speed,etc is used to drive a feature with AI, asset streaming,etc it could just be cut all together.
It's kind of a non issue to be specific games run on different hardware so the time plus what if you don't have a 4k TV now is your TV a problem since your Xbox series x has to dumb down the video for it studios have already tried to pawn off this excuse as to why games sometimes fail expectations oh it would look awesome if we had just made the series x version but it has to be compatible. Search it there a ton of debunk videos about this If this was truly the issue they could put in a performance mode like with PS4 so it could scale with hardware. Yes the Xbox is more than a glorified gou but literally if you had a pc and played a game on a 3080 you could turn it off yank it put in a 2080 and continue game on with maybe less detail the data is still there but the cards only rendering what it can render same concept here the data to make your game 4k is there but the series s is doing what it can do that's why games are series s/x optimized not s or x optimized. This is just a studio excuse for churning crap
well devs on pc already have a bunch of settings for graphics quality, that menu is simply hidden on consoles, but they can always find the right configuration in their game engine, it's very easy, most game engine tools auto generate LODs for models and compress textures to get the lower quality from the highest, dev time to implement that is minimal compared to the core of the game
‼️The Xbox Series S got an update so the OS uses less memory so games can run better. Memory was a big complaint from devs working on games for the Series S so hopefully they can better optimize their games for the Series S.‼️
EDIT: Around 5-10% performance increase
Imagine if sony's tv division sponsored LTT for this episode lol
no one would trust linus in this video
1:00 "One X One S" shoutout Microsoft for the confusing naming lmao
you can complain more and the next gen will be called Xbox One Series X 2
Guessing that Texture Pop-In in Valhalla is a Legacy Engine-holdback from the Xbone and PS4 compatibility layers.
sorta, but honestly when you aren't focusing on stuff generally speaking no engines are designed to keep rendering the higher textures as there is no reason to.... it is possible they could change it when updating the engine but tbh... I don't know if it would be worth it as in that scene they would probably have to sacrifice performance (draw distance) when flying as a bird to keep the frame rates if they were keeping the high res textures loaded.... but honestly i find that to be meh (dumb thing to complain about) considering i grew up with the evolution of nintendo to now...
I went with the Series S. It fit my budget better but does what I need it to. I wish people would just calm down and let those of us who can’t afford the more expensive consoles, just be happy and not feel like second class.
Lol drama queen. How in the world does it make you a second class citizen lol it doesnt affect you directly in any way having someone compare two products. Are you also feeling less than because some wanker owns a mazzaratti somewhere that you cant afford? I mean really
@@bg7290 I think you know exactly what I meant. I wasn’t being dramatic.
Tbh, I feel you
The link in the description is broken, you’ve tagged “The” onto the URL.
I'm also broken
What loik no
what which link?
Why are people saying Linus videos are broken, lol. I'm usually on mobile now after being grounded from my PC
Aren't we all?
What I'd love to see is a video on affordable 4k 120hz TVs for these new consoles, something like the Samsung Q70t, and LG Nanocell 85.
The hisense u7g is a pretty good bank for buck tv