Nobody Seems To Talk About THIS When Pastors Are Disqualified
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- The moral failure of a well-known pastor can send shockwaves through the church, leaving a trail of hurt in its wake. It’s a tragedy for the pastor’s wife, family, congregation, and the broader church at large. How do we respond when a spiritual leader is caught in a biblically disqualifying sin? Many are left asking, "If a pastor of that stature falls, how can I stand firm in my faith?" We'll explore this common concern and talk about how to trust God, even when spiritual giants stumble. We'll also look at how to discern truth and theology apart from the failings of flawed individuals. Join us in today’s video as we discuss the painful reality of pastoral failure, the importance of prayer for the victims, and the need for grace mixed with truth when dealing with the wrongdoer.
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All of creation is Holy.
There is no CREATION seperate from the ONE TRUE CREATOR.
TO SAY a creation is unholy is to say the CREATOR IS INCOMPLETE.
YOU FOLLOWERS OF ABRAHAM SO LOVE TO DIVIDE THAT WHICH IS UNITED.
You are not TRUE MONOTHEIST
IF YOU BELIEVE IN 2 KINGDOMS WITHIN CREATION. ❤
Yahweh covets the SOVEREIGN DIVINITY of all SENTIENT SINGULARITIES through worship.... more proof he is not the ONE TRUE CREATOR.
The actual ONE TRUE CREATOR requires NOTHING FROM YOU. Every CREATION that we as CREATORS extend is a testament to HIS GREATNESS. CREATORS CREATING IS HIS WORSHIP, accepted. 😂😂😂
The Billy Graham Rule is Biblical. Everyone needs to apply it and let ourselves be marked as different from the world. Never be alone with someone who isn't sister, wife, mother or daughter.
@@darklights.burnerGnosticism has been rejected for 1800 years. You're late to the party
@@cosmictreason2242 I'm not here to be accepted or to search for validity through your perception. Thank you. The ONE TRUE CREATOR calls me to defy the broken theology of Abraham. To retain my DIVINE SOVEREIGNTY in the face of the assault of the blood cult of Sin Worshippers.... followers of Abraham.
We have to be careful not to think that we are above falling into any sin. Put sin to death or sin will be putting you to death. TAKE HEED LEST YOU FALL.
I like what you said that’s good. God must have been speaking through you love it 👏🏻👏🏻
So very true it can happen to any one scripture tells us so
@@RodericGurrolait’s call scripture the word of God
This is what I told myself and others when my Pastor fell into sexual sin years ago. Even if it has not happened to us yet and we pray and run the opposite direction to not let it happen, the possibility is there for any of us.
"So, if you think you are standing firm [in the faith], be careful that you don’t fall! No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear." (1 Corinthians 10: 12-13a, NIV).
If a Pastor falls into sin and he's truly repentant, he'll accept the loss of his ministry (albeit painfully) like King David did the loss of his child.
David ended up losing four of his children as a result of that sin (although one died after David) 😢
Amen
@@triumphantgalaxy yeah true, evil never left his kingdom after that sin.
I was married for 33 years before our pastor at the time who was much older than me and I considered him like a father while counseling my wife and I took advantage and had an affair with my then wife (which could be his daughter by age) and talked her into leaving me and him leaving his family which they both did in 2013 but the relationship for them lasted only 2 weeks. I have 4 grown children and 1 grand daughter which their mother makes them choose between her and a relationship with me. I pray everyday for my children to have a right relationship with the Lord.
Wow that's intense, my wife left me too, not for a Pastor but an unbeliever.. it's terribly hard the betrayal but like you I'm raising my kids in the Lord and praying they don't get deceived and fall into sexual sin like their mother. Stay strong brother and God bless
wow what denomination was that church
@@michaelmain7317in hindsight were there signs before you married her? Give the young men some encouragement
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@michaelmain7317 please Trek m tell me there were signs before you married, in hindsight
Ray is Humble, He knows men struggle. We need the word of God. God is Holy He is the Righteous Lord. We need to be pure.
God promised 1cor 10:13 to the true Christians
No one thinks it can happen to them. Pray a lot.
Pray especially for your pastor
If you think that you're better than those who sin, God has ways to humble you. I pray for all who have fallen.
David cheated with Bathsheba and even had Uriah killed, and God said he was a man after his own heart. My son Uriah told me one day "Hey dad isn't your first son, from your first marriage named David?? I said yes, why? He said isn't David and Uriah from the bible, Uriah doesn't believe, he don't like God, so he caught me off guard with that question. How did I not realize my son's are David and Uriah...crazy right? When David turned 33, Uriah was 22 and I was 55...crazy right? 33+22=55. God is amazing. PEACE 🕊
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Wonderful!
Amen!!!! Praise God!!
The Billy Graham Rule is Biblical. Everyone needs to apply it and let ourselves be marked as different from the world. Never be alone with someone who isn't sister, wife, mother or daughter.
What about those who might secretly have homosexual temptations? How about we just ban face to face, private meetings. (Possible exceptions for family members)
I didn't know this was his rule, but I have made myself the same rule after a coworker was chasing me, and I shamefully* contemplated giving in. The only man I need to speak to, including inside the church, is my husband.
@@sackettfamily4685 such men should not be alone with other men like them, but there is no reason to do more. It is not the same
@@cosmictreason2242 my argument is to point out that we women feel extremely singled out as a problem gender. The secret struggles of lust between genders is equally something to feel concerned about. Yet not many would take it so far, as to ban such iffy meetings.
Though when I think about meeting a non family member, and being completely unobserved with them? I think common sense is to just be in public and not alone at all. This gives a completely solid foundation of character.
How would a woman get any pastoral care if she’s in an abusive marriage but the pastor will only meet with both husband and wife together? This rule needs more thought.
Martyn Lloyd-Jones once said:
Holiness is not something we are called upon to do in order that we may become something; it is something we are to do because of what we already are…
Praying for Steve and his family. 🙏🙏🙏
Yes. So sad for him, I love his preaching. We forget, they’re all sinners, just like the rest of us.
@@GarrettFemister....
deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
You know y’all might think deeply about this video and take it to heart and not have a profile that promotes sexual sin.
Thank you Ray for putting out these videos. They’ve been a great encouragement to me. And I’m almost finished with EZ’s book. It’s the best book of its kinda that I’ve ever read. God bless the Living Waters Ministry!
It seems like preachers like Steve Lawson are on the road speaking in other places more than in their local congregation. This is a red flag in my opinion. He was accountable to a board of elders but how often did he truly connect and fellowship with his congregation?
I'm pretty sure the only reason pastors preach at different churches is so that they can reuse sermons but yeah I see the danger
There is no biblical merit whatsoever for restricting someone from itenerant preaching. Also, how do you know Lawson was the only speaker at his church? Other elders couldve also preached.
@@AdventureSMBW I agree there’s no restriction. I guess I would see Lawson as more of an evangelist rather than pastor who shepherds a local flock. I simply see dangers in constantly being on the road, especially if his wife wasn’t with him
I dont think a real christian or pastor can commit sin that long . A real christian will have the fear to commit sin against GOD . When i lied forcibly i felt so much guilt and ask GOD to forgive in that moment and beg GOD to help me not to lie anymore .
to the True Christians , ministers or wether they are not ministers of Churches, they all have one promise from God on 1Cor 10:13
King David committed adultery for a long time, and it wasn't till God used Nathan to expose hs sin, that he repented. I disagree that David was not a true follow of God, (nor that he didn't have the Holy Spirit)
Don’t put pastors on a pedestal it’s not fair to them. they are fighting the same fight we are keep them on a prayer list not a pedestal.
They are actually fighting a fiercer battle my dad told me that once he began his full time ministry the temptations became ten times stronger. The enemy works doubly hard on our leaders in hopes of discrediting the name of Christ
@@ricklynd7408 absolutely 🙏🏾⛪️
Teachers will be held to a higher standard
Teachers are not pastors. We are s different breed.
@@amy3458pastors teach
Yes but an eternity of hell is so horrible that nothing else really matters
@@amy3458 Alright, where did you get that idea?
Thanks Ray. They're dropping like flies in Dallas. Pray for us in Texas
If youre in Dallas area, Adamant Believers Council in North Richland Hills is the place to be.
The great "falling away" is under way.
If the church is handling the discipline biblically, and maybe unless directly involved, leaving that church behind seems to be a knee jerk reaction.
And if you leave in search of a perfect Church, good luck, there's no such thing.
Praying for y'all!
No, they’re not “dropping like flies here in Dallas”. I’m a native of Dallas, Tx. We just have more high profile preachers. It just seems that way. But they all need prayers just like us.
@@redrockplumber5124Agreed. But no Pastor has the Biblical authority to continue leading a Church or ministry. As it is written. 🙏🏻
Growing up, we had a pastor that mentioned how God brought him and his wife together. They had such a beautiful marriage. He cheated on her and it was found out, that caused my sister to leave the church and not trust anyone again. She told me the one day how she looked up to them and how it devastated her walk. 30 years on and this pastor's name is still marred, those in the congregation still talk about this. His wife had to move away because her name was dragged through the mud, his father, who was the head pastor, also went through a hard time and tried to save the congregation.
When we sin, the consequences impact many, not just ourselves. Leaders are held to a higher standard and their influence goes even further. Do pray for your leaders, pastors and church, they need it very much. When anyone falls, forgive them, be gracious and allow them back into the fold in time and through repentance.
That's true. The call to spiritual discipline is very great. But let us not let mans failings dissaude us from the Gospel. Did Moses' failings disqualify the power of the God who created him?
@troywright359 God is good. The Good News is such Good News. The way we worship "church" sucks and isn't scriptural or Good News or even good. We don't function like the Body of Christ, men become the head in place of God and we are all divided up being loyal to our "systems." It's greivious. It's bondage. There's no greater joy then when disciples walk in the TRUTH. Jesus is The WAY, The TRUTH, and The LIFE; not our "spiritual leaders and systems." The "church" doesn't save people, the God of Salvation does. Choose this day whom you will serve. We can not serve 2masters. God alone on the throne, not men or systems.
Too bad you are looking at a man. Clearly, you are such a stellar saint, you have never committed any sin like lust (Matt. 5:28; James 2:10). Tell your sister to GROW UP and get a life. You and your sister are the quintessential Heb. 5:12-13; you both need milk and a change of diapers. The devil attacks "generals", so little "buck privates" like "youz 2" wet your diapers the rest of your Christian walk. You need to be Baptized with HS (Acts 2:1-4).
@@troywright359 I do get what you're saying and you are right about that. I wouldn't trust someone that claims to be perfect. A perfect person would make us feel uncomfortable and we couldn't go to them for help as they wouldn't understand our struggles.
If our leaders would come out, tell the truth about themselves falling, repenting, face the consequences of their sin and strive to do better. We would support such a leader. A leader that sins and attempts to hide it would get a tarnished reputation.
God is clear too, He says that a leader should be blameless and of a higher standard. We are still human and naturally make these judgements and set standards of approval.
We should also be wise in who we allow to lead us. It wouldn't work going to a leader for help if they are still struggling in an area where we are struggling. That's a case of the blind leading the blind. If however they've succeeded in overcoming this struggle, we can trust them to lead help us overcome our struggle.
If Moses continued in his sin, God wouldn't have continued using him. We are required to move away from our former selves and to renew our minds, same is expected with leaders, but even greater.
Hmmm... I don't know about the list you guys have.🤔🤔🤔 If you are keeping the pastors that fall, you should write all the sins of all the pastors, including yourselves and ourselves, as I don't think sexual sin is greater than the other sins. What if that person confessed and repented, but you guys still have the list when God has completely forgotten and forgiven him? and you still have this note. But I'd say this. It’s truly heartbreaking to hear these kinds of accusations, especially when the person involved doesn’t seem to be genuinely repentant (though I’m not saying he didn’t). I think this is a reminder for all married men. When someone was asked what constitutes a s e x u a l sin or flirting, the other person responded, "If it's something you wouldn't do in your wife's presence, it's either a sin or flirting." whether it is scrolling on social media or texting privately to someone who is not your wife. I believe this is how it starts-small actions that grow into something bigger, ultimately leading to the fall. May God help us to pray earnestly for him and his family!
Some sins have consequences that are much greater than others. Sexual sin is one. Murder is another.
Yes, you can be forgiven, but you also have to live with the consequences for the rest of your time on this planet. Don't be deluded about that.
@@innocentbystander8038 It is not good to equate watching pornography with committing murder. All sins separate us from God equally. Yes murder has earthly as well as eternal consequences, and the earthly consequences often differ and vary, but we don't need to imply that lustful thoughts alone is 'worse' than thoughts of anger and hatred.
Of course, we can start to say "any man who has ever lusted is unfit and disqualified from ministry". That might get the moral perfection in church that some desire. Spiritual discipline and encouraging people to search their lives and not tolerate sin, is far better than demanding everyone who has ever thought about a woman lustfully to declare so and then slink off into the corner, to serve God in some small isolated way that ensures they may never ever enter a situation where a lustful thought could ever come to their mind again.
@@innocentbystander8038 yet every man and every women commit sexual sin of lust every day. So we should ask and beg God to punish us in the same way for the rest of our lives or we are hypocrites.
"We mistake the virtue of theology for the virtue of the theologian"
Good one Oscar, writing that one down.
A good reminder. Listen to the full episode in the Living Waters Podcast! 👌🏻
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Yes, please.
I loved this video. Got a bit emotional for Manny's salvation and Dylan. May the Holy spirit speak to Dylan - seeing him smile when receiving the books and being honest throughout the conversation...man.
Brother Ray, may the Lord bless you and keep you till the end of your days. I cannot wait to see you, if not here on this earth, then in heaven with the Lord.
Watching from Kenya.
Also very insightful on the fall of pastors. As always, thank you guys 🙏🏾
"and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."(Mt 19:12).....I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace to sin no more and to avoid the near occasion of sin. Amen
It is very heartbreaking 😢
@frankiejo58 It really is! 😭
It feels so surreal!! 😪
It feels like hearing that he was found having hung himself. 😩😱
And when you're full of holes, you are holie unto the Lord.😊
holy
😂 well played, sir. Well played. 🤌🏾
lol loved it
Unfortunately pornography has taken the place of many “public” adulterous activity. Often “leaders” could use self control by not being alone with a women, that is not his wife.
Now, the adultery is easily hidden behind closed doors and out of sight from getting “caught”
So true. There’s a HUGE problem with adultery and sexual immorality within the churches. Current statistics say that 50% other pastors and 80% of men, 30% of women in the churches view porn at least monthly. Living waters is right that American Christianity has broadened the narrow way too much. People in the churches haven’t truly turned from their sin and a little leaven has now nearly leavened the entire lump. We are nearing the days of judgment. People continue to commit all these sins and still attach themselves to the Lord’s name and come to church like they love the Lord. It reminds me of the days of Jeremiah..
“But look, you are trusting in deceptive words that are worthless. “ ‘Will you steal and murder, commit adultery and perjury, burn incense to Baal and follow other gods you have not known, and then come and stand before Me in this house, which bears My Name, and say, “We are safe”-safe to do all these detestable things? Has this house, which bears My Name, become a den of robbers to you? But I have been watching! declares the Lord.” Jeremiah 7:8-11
The Lord required obedience from the heart. Not just lip service.
““Why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?”
Luke 6:46
““ ‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me.” Matthew 15:8
But the Lord is not fooled. We look at the outward appearance but the Lord sees the heart.
““Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.” Matthew 5:8
The Lord didn’t destroy the earth with the flood because their outward deeds were evil (I’m sure there was a lot of that as well). But He destroyed it because the thoughts of their HEARTS were on evil.
“Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” Genesis 6:5
True repentance is a turning from deeds yes, but also from our wicked thoughts and to the Lord Jesus Christ. 🙌🏻
“Seek the Lord while He may be found; Call upon Him while He is near. Let the wicked FORSAKE HIS WAY And the unrighteous man his THOUGHTS; And let him return to the Lord, And He will have compassion on him, And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.” Isaiah 55:6-7
Definitely true that's the biggest!!! Temptation
God can see secret sin.
Luke 12:2-3 "For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have spoken in the ear in inner rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops.".
Even without pornography, people would still lust in their own thoughts. Pornography is a larger sympton of lust, and we would condemn both porn and lustful thoughts without porn as a catalyst.
Pray for all Pastors and Teachers.
1 John 3:7-8
None of us is without sin. Nevertheless, there are standards for leadership in the church. What disturbs me is some people thinking that they are better than others.
I have noticed that this fallen pastor has been "scrubbed" from the church he pastored and from another youtube channel that often featured him. It's like he never existed. Gone are all his sermons and interviews. I don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing.
@@dwightWSmith73 they don't want new people to be misled into following him to then fall away upon discovering his fault, or following in his path
@@cosmictreason2242 makes sense
@@cosmictreason2242 that means they are saying the fallen pastor was never a Christian and never spoke anything useful of God. They deny any work that God did through him. Exposure and accountability.
@@troywright359that is not what that says
It’s a good thing.
There sure are a lot of pastors who turned out to be unqualified to lead people. Yet, they always get these jobs and the respect and financial wellness that these jobs bring. Yet, so many pastors are more worried if you drink a beer or wine at dinner sometimes, or said one cuss word here or there. I think failing a church or committing adultery is far worse and more damaging to Christians. Maybe there should be less legalistic attitudes about simple things the bible promotes such as making beer, wine, drinking it once in awhile because many people are very spiritually strong who do things that the Bible does not condemn as sin. Only drunkenness is a sin.
As Christians we’re not to lessen sin just because it seems less than to us. We need to uphold Gods standard, and God hates all sin. Drinking alcohol is definitely a conviction thing, and each person should hold to their conviction to honour the Lord, BUT even if you’re not convicted by it you still should not put yourself in situations where you could be tempted to sin. Like going to a work function and staying late knowing that everyone is going to get off their face drunk. That’s just setting yourself up for failure.
@@aaliyahlitovskyy I understand what you're saying. But do you think Christians in the Bible were somehow separated from the real world around them? obviously the Bible says we need to
Be dead to the world and separated in a spiritual sense. But in a physical sense we are still here and everyone around us that is not saved is dead inside and doing these sins. Certain cuss words are also a conviction thing. I am not advocating that we openly and boastfully drink alcohol or say a harsh word in front of your average Evangelical Christian but I think that the status we give to certain leaders shouldn't be given to certain people. Churches constantly look at academic credentials, and whether or not someone fits the look of a certain type of Evangelical cultural style than the substance of someone. For instance I worked security and ended up getting a job at a bar where I was a bouncer. Certain people would think I'm unchristian because I work in such a bad place. But I'm there as a light in the darkness and I'm preventing people from sending worse than they already are. Certain people are going to have to make money somehow and end up in situations like that. there are far better guys that are less popular that would be better church leaders and pastors than the ones that commit adultery and scams.
The standard is high for those who preach and teach for a reason. It’s not our standard that we set, it’s God’s.
@@CortneyPhillips-b4q I don't think the things I listed were low standards. But yes, the standards for a leader in the church such as a pastor is above the average person. Why are so many able to hide for such a long time?
@@MaharlikaAWA I agree with you, the status either we give to people by putting them on a pedestal or someone that is appointed as pastor that goes against the bible shouldn’t be done. Both are sinful. I know someone personally who has appointed themselves as pastor, and it really gives a whole new meaning to me why pastors, and churches actually do need to be appointed/recommended and planted by another church. There is a criteria that you have to fit if you want to be a pastor and have the gift of teaching. These are the verses in the Bible.
There’s a warning James 3:1,
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“Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.”
1 Timothy 3:1-7 describes the role of overseers and deacons, so pastors definitely need to fit this bill.
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“It is a trustworthy statement: if any man aspires to the office of overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do. An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. He must be one who manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity (but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?), and not a new convert, so that he will not become conceited and fall into the condemnation incurred by the devil. And he must have a good reputation with those outside the church, so that he will not fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.”
Appointing a pastor should have little to do with academic credentials or how they look and hold themselves, we should always look to the word of God as direction. That’s another reason why we should be so careful to prayerfully choose the right church to be a member of.
Personally, I wouldn’t think you’re unchristian for taking that job at a bar, but I would be worried about the potential for you to be tempted and sin. In those environments you have a lot of girls dressing immodestly, you have guys wanting to pick fights - there’s temptation. I’m not saying there isn’t temptation all around us, but there are places that pose a greater risk to us as Christians that we should avoid to protect ourselves - we’re scarily all capable of the sin that Steve Lawson has committed. Sin and temptation doesn’t go from 0-100 in one instance, it creeps up, the devil tempts, and when we don’t completely remove ourselves from places like bars and clubs, we can fall. You may start off strong, but it doesn’t take long to weaken and have a wondering eye, we’re just sinful creatures and we need to guard our hearts and our minds daily. A once off gig that you worked at a bar isn’t sinful (in my opinion), but be careful, don’t make it a habit. Your relationship with God is far too important.
Yes we all need to work and make money, but God provides. He will see you honouring Him in your convictions and give you another gig that will pay the bills. There are countless times my husband has been asked by his bosses, in the past, to steal from customers. He could lose his job eventually if he keeps refusing, but he refused anyway because he works for the Lord, not for men, and if he were to lose his job, God would provide another. (Thankfully he left that company as soon as he could)
It’s an extreme example maybe to what you’re trying to say, but I hope that makes sense.
The thing is, even if a pastor is appointed, fits the bible criteria and has the gift of teaching. They can still later fall into the sin of scamming and committing adultery. They shouldn’t fall into that sin and they should remove themselves so far away from the temptation of those sins and seek council as soon as a thought pops up, but it doesn’t always happen that way. Pride creeps in, fear of losing the congregation. We live in a fallen world where 100% of the population are sinners. We need to constantly be in prayer for our leaders, it’s not an easy job, done right, and we also should be coming beside them, admonishing them when they do wrong, and encouraging them to keep running the race. Pastors should never act as if they are above the flock, they are also brothers in Christ. I’m thankful and blessed to finally be in a church that is biblical and reads the Bible line by line, interpreting hermeneutically. I pray the same for all Christians, living life with your fellow saints is so important!
A remember a great pastor saying - ‘God our Father won’t allow His children to remain brats.’ 😊
Never put your full trust in man, he will fail you.
Our real love and hope is in our loving Father who never fails you.
He is the Good Shepherd !!!
❤❤❤
Thank you, Ray. May our father in heaven bless you. 🙏
“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God”
(John 3:3)
I agree to what D.A Carson says, not what the media is says condemning the person, only God can do that not us the worse sinner on earth, to pointing a finger, one day we all will be standing in front of Jesus, and then all secrets will be unveiled, so please be careful what you all say, one finger points out while the rest is pointing at our self .
Biblically speaking, it makes no difference at all if you’re practicing REAL Christianity, and not the religion of a denomination, sect, cult, or countless other religious groups.
I am convinced that God foresaw the current Laodicean church and diagnosed the problem:
“For the time WILL come when they WILL NOT tolerate sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers (as in countless religious groups and denominations) in accordance with their OWN desires, and they will turn their ears away from the truth and will turn aside to myths” (2 Tim. 4:3-4).
(Just read the “yeah, me too” comments by the thousands from clueless sheeps because it “sounds” good)
This, of course, is the result of the sheep RELYING on man, rather than God’s Spirit, to be taught His Word in defiance of His instructions in John 14:26, 15:26, and 16:13.
But even worse than that, also in defiance of Jerem. 17:5 because when when they reject His Holy Spirit Ministry OVER that of a religious group, denomination, sect, etc., they are choosing man’s wisdom based upon intellectual understanding from their bible readings and seminary teachings.
So, how did this happen?
You see, people who rejects the knowledge of God’s Word (see Hosea 4:6) don’t realize that the Sunday pep talks, that’s being passed as “God’s Word,” are nothing more than a man’s personal opinion, beliefs based on traditions and/or doctrinal principles from his denomination or whatever group that is being represented on that pulpit, and most of the time, sprinkled with conjecture and theories about what he “thinks” God might be saying or mean in whatever random scripture was chosen for that Sunday.
Take the emotion out of that Sunday experience for yourself and analyze this fact, the next time you attend a Sunday church service.
This brings another question, why is this happening?
Well, it’s because a good portion of the so called “shepherds,,” were NEVER called by God to be one to begin with, but rather, they self-appointed themselves because God did NOT establish “shepherds” for His N.T. Church, nor approved such ministry for His saints after the colossal failure of the shepherds of Israel with His Jewish people.
After denouncing them, and passing judgment upon them in chapter 34 in Ezekiel, He was NOT going to repeat that story again with His future N.T. saints, and gave the HINTS about the nature of this change in Isaiah 54:13, Eze. 34:23, and John 6:45.
That is why “shepherds” are NOT listed in the Holy Spirit ministry list in 1 Cor. 12:5-10. Nevertheless, He DID give GIFTS to us:
“He gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, some as pastors and teachers, for the EQUIPPING of the SAINTS for the WORK of ministry (BY THE SAINTS, NOT by pastors or teachers), for the BUILDING UP of the body of Christ” (Ephe. 4:11-12).
Their ministry is only to be Tutors, Cheerleaders to the sheep, and Custodians of the Truth of God’s Word, and for encouragement for the sheep to build them up, and be TAUGHT according to this New Testament teaching plan and design of His, to FULFILL Isaiah 54:13, Eze. 34:23, and John 6:45.
But what happened? By DECEPTION, greed, and a lust for power in the third century, and JUST like the Pharisees and Sadducees, the religious “leaders” of the day rebelled and made themselves “shepherds,” and MORPHED the REAL Church into the mausoleum buildings you see in street corners, that today, are known as “churches” and with some minor changes and enhancements, they were COPIED by every religious group that runs a church business out there.
And THAT, brother, is HOW they mass produced “believers” INSTEAD of DISCIPLES and that's WHY today’s Laodicean church is an abysmal FAILURE.
“With people is impossible, but with God all things are possible” (Matt. 19:26).
The bible will keep you from sin or sin will keep you from the bible. Pray for a hunger for God’s word and the Holy Spirits help to understand it. Bless you brothers and sisters ✝️🤍
Yes!!!
I am so thankful that the fall of my once-beloved pastor did not make me want to leave my faith. it took a long time for me to be able to trust another church far enough to want to join and be a part of another family of faith.
David, who sinned with Bathsheba and had her husband killed, was forgiven and is called a man after God's own heart. Right?
The pivotal question is not whether GOD can or will forgive an individual's sins. There is no question about that. The issue is whether the person can any longer hold the office of pastor. Since the Apostle Paul lists being above rebuke as a qualification it would seem not.
Hebrews 12:1-17 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.
Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.
Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
I appreciate the message of this video, but the repetative background music annoyed the hillsong out of me. And not in a good way.
The format of this video is really strange. The flashback kinda things to the street evangelism do not fit the conversation. Better to have them separated
Thanks for your input.
@@LivingWatersI agree. It’s hard to concentrate. It almost caused me not to finish watching, and I’m very interested in this topic. I’m glad I persevered because I think your analysis, the scripture and the DA Carson quote is spot on.
Ray Comfort stresses evangelism over his death?
Don’t worship your pastor. Remember that all of us are sinners and no sin is “worse” than the other. That said, once somebody falls can they or should they be restored to the pulpit or instead go forward as laity?
Thank you for your very balanced and well thought out video.
If someone ever asks me to describe this situation, I will send them this video.
Shabbat Shalom
Thank you for dealing with this topic in a very graceful manner. I get a little turned off by all the channels that utilize the fallen's indentity like the latest news headline. I fear there is self motivation in this - gets a lot of traffic to the channel. I also cringe at the tremendous amount of presumption that gets offered as wisdom by persons who are not privy to the facts. I also do believe a fallen elder can be restored to eldership, not always, maybe not even likely - just possible.
even referring to them as fallen, what are we saying by that? What do we mean by 'fallen'? They have fallen from God's grace? They have fallen from salvation?
@@troywright359 Fallen from the qualification to hold the office of elder. There are qualifications and we can lose those. But I am not of the camp that says under no circumstances can they be regained.
Pray for all the men in your life. Lust is EVERY man's battle. Someone already said it here, but the Billy Graham rule is solid; if it's not your wife, mother, daughter, or sister...don't be alone with them. Period. - This recent news hit me hard. If that straight laced, stony faced, Puritan-esque man can give in to lust, then none of us are safe.
I'm afraid that telling potential converts that all you have to do is repent and believe will forever cause them to trust in something they did. My faith and my repentance cannot save me. Without the Holy Ghost making faith and repentance possible salvation itself becomes impossible.
We need not trusting ourselves. The flesh. No man falls, all humanity are fallen. There is none righteous oh no, not one Romans three and 10. so people need to depend on God and what his word says and not any man. Here is a few verses. Gal.2:17/ 1John.1:8,10. No leader is beyond reproach. We are all sinners rather known about sin or unknown sin. It’s there. So self righteousness and righteousness will both lead you to the lake of fire. We need to be the righteousness of God.2Cor.5:17 in Christ Jesus. Col.3:3-4! Pastor Harry Davis, Revelation Outreach Ministries
Repent and believe the gospel. Everybody needs Jesus. Only Jesus can save and change lost sinners. Jesus wins and the devils lose be on Jesus's side.
Everyone is human
Be Holy as I AM Holy means that we are set apart for Him!! We are not set apart to follow mere men, denominations, or systems. That's impure. We are set apart to worship God, He is Good News! Proclaim Him! Love Him, love the brethren. Seek Him in how to even do that. Being free to worship Him only and lift Him high is such Good News! Doing that together is such Good News! Discipling each other, is such Good News. Our character/fruit being built up by Him who is perfect in character is such Good News. Check yourself that you don't point others to men, and to worldly systems we call "going to church", but that you point others to the Good News and truly fellowship more and more as the Day draws near. He knows how much we truly need each precious member of His Body, but He alone is the Head, no one, or no syatem should usurp that authority ever. Anathama. 1 Corinthians 13:1-3
Amen! Such Good News are only on the Way ❤ God bless you,dear sister!😊
@@monikam1723 So true! God is working in and through His people even now!:)
Thank you, really helpful discussion, much needed with the current immoral failures of several high profile Christian leaders, helping us navigate through Biblically & God bless Dylan what a sweet open young man, God bless you all 👏👏🌟🙏✝️🔥📖🙌👑
Living Waters is always loving and compassionate but never compromising on the truth. Love you guys!
I don’t like to put pastors and teachers on a pedestal, for all the obvious reasons discussed here. But, you and this team are the finest at discussing this issue, and other issues. And at witnessing!
So grateful for you. Don’t let it go to your head, though. 😊
May God protect us all, and our families. We need Him so much.
God knows how many times I have watched porn this year...I hate it and when I watch it, I'm convicted and stay away from God's work. God help me
The Lord requires a true turning from sin. Please consider fasting and praying for sincere repentance from this sin and for sincere hatred for it.
With this type of sin, partaking in it is actually proof that you do love it. You may feel terrible for doing it afterwards but it would literally be impossible for you to delight in it while doing it if you sincerely hated it. You may hate the fact that you love it. You may hate the fact that it has such a grip on you. But you DO actually like it which is why it’s tempting and eventually overcomes you.
Praying for you! Sin is master until Christ dethrones it and is exalted in its place. The Lord’s grace be with you.
Praying for you!!!
If you have a partner you need to confess
@@jimayla7446 one more thing.. how serious are you about ridding yourself of this sin? That will be another indication of your heart. Are you tearing down the “high places” so to speak with the idols of your heart? Are you getting rid of your devices? Are you putting severe parental controls on them so that you can’t access those sites? Are you doing whatever it takes to pluck out the eye or cut off the hand? Do you take Christ seriously when He says that we need to do whatever it takes to get rid of lust and sins of the heart and mind? It is better to never have a tv in your home again than to have one and be lured back into the snare of lust. Better to have an old fashioned flip phone. Better to even wear a chastity belt if you have to in order to break a pattern! Make NO provision for the flesh.
“But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make NO PROVISION for the flesh in regard to its lusts.” Romans 13:14
But more than anything, FAST and PRAY. And keep doing it until the Lord is gracious towards you. Because only the Lord can cleanse us and deliver us from the bondage of sin but we still have the responsibility to put it into practice.
To all my brothers and sisters, we MUST be serious about sin, especially in the midst of the crooked and perverse generation in which we live. Come out from the world and BE SEPARATE. I am praying for us all in these last days.. that the Lord’s name will be honored among us!
@@jimayla7446 one more thing.. how serious are you about ridding yourself of this sin? That will be another indication of your heart. Are you tearing down the “high places” so to speak with the idols of your heart? Are you getting rid of your devices? Are you putting severe parental controls on them so that you can’t access those sites?
In proverbs chapter 5 it says to keep far away from the harlot because she leads many to their ruin. And yet, many love to be dangerously close through their devices.
Are you doing whatever it takes to pluck out the eye or cut off the hand? Do you take Christ seriously when He says that we need to do whatever it takes to get rid of lust and sins of the heart and mind? It is better to never have a tv in your home again than to have one and be lured back into the snare of lust. Better to have an old fashioned flip phone. Better to even wear a chastity belt if you have to in order to break a pattern! Make NO provision for the flesh.
“But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make NO PROVISION for the flesh in regard to its lusts.” Romans 13:14
But more than anything, FAST and PRAY. And keep doing it until the Lord is gracious towards you. Because only the Lord can cleanse us and deliver us from the bondage of sin but we still have the responsibility to put it into practice.
“For your ways are in full view of the Lord, and he examines all your paths. The evil deeds of the wicked ensnare them; the cords of their sins hold them fast. For lack of discipline they will die, led astray by their own great folly.” Proverbs 5:21-23
To all my brothers and sisters, we MUST be serious about sin, especially in the midst of the crooked and perverse generation in which we live. Come out from the world and BE SEPARATE. I am praying for us all in these last days.. that the Lord’s name will be honored among us!
I recommend a book called
"SEXUALITY - WHAT THE CHURCH SHOULD BE TELLING YOU BUT IS TOO AFRAID TO SAY." Available on Amazon
This is why we can't look to mere men as our spiritual leaders and nourishers, but to Christ who has no sin. A sinful man can be a blessing to us inasmuch as he speaks the words of Christ to us, but he himself is not the source of that blessing, he's just an instrument. Mr. Lawson was a blessing to people through what he taught, even while participating in secret sin, not because of himself but because of the power of the word. I feel sad for him and is family and hope that he will genuinely repent and also that Christians will forgive him.
Pastors, teachers, leaders of all sides are prone to sin .It is so much more glaring when a Calvinist sins like Lawson did. The reason being is that they are so condescending. I know, I was a Reformed, Orthodox Presbyterian, Calvinist for 57 years. We all idolized different past and current pillars in the faith. From Calvin, Knox, and Machen, to Sproul, McArthur, Bauchman, & Washer. We all quoted or used their sayings in our sermons, theology, and doctrinal conversations.
I suspect that Reformed Baptists, and PCA folk had their own mini circle of idols like we OPCers did. Heck, I loved Piper's books, I listened to Begg for years. B.B. Warfield, Ferguson, Ryken, Horton, Beeke, & Boice were all great influences.
The problem began with these Reformed Conferences the various camps started. Many of these men stopped being preachers/shepherds and became Reformed Rock Stars. White, Lawson, Washer, McArthur, and to some extent Sproul began to believe and relish this status.
There is something fundamentally wrong with a doctrine and by extension a local church that allows something like Lawson's sin go on for five plus years. When Pastors are away from their churches at 2-4 day conferences as much as 3-4 times per year, there is no real accountability. "Things" begin to be neglected, wife, children, grandchildren, flock, God, etc.
The elders of Lawson's church should have seen something, there is no way that Lawson could not have shown something to indicate what he was involved in.
Calvinism has done more harm to the Church than anything else besides Roman Catholicism.
The reason I grieve for Lawson and his ilk, is because he has a form of godliness but denies it's power.
2 Tim. 3:1-9 sums up this current situation. Lawson regularly was a boaster, proud, unloving, unforgiving, a slanderer, obviously did not have self-control, was head-strong, and obviously a lover of pleasure.
Unfortunately, Calvinist's resist the truth, 2 Tim 3:8, thus are disapproved concerning the faith. Verse 9 tells us that these men will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was (Jannes & Jambres).
I have watched countless videos of Reformed men and women commenting on Lawson. None of them have used Scripture to rebuke Lawson. They all have used the Scriptures to restore him. Yes, he can be forgiven and hopefully he will repent. That is important to his future.
What is important to the Church, the Bride of Christ is to debunk this spurious doctrine that has plagued it for 1400 years. I implore people to get rid of your Westminster Standards, and Calvin's Institutes of the Christian Religion and read, study, and pray the Scriptures. Micah 6:8!
Why is sexualities immorality considered fast more serious and intolerable than proudly rebelling against God's Word? Pastors violate scripture by divorcing their wives or allowing female pastors or elders or deacons, teaching false doctrine, why is sexual sin considered worse than the rest?
What about deacons? What other sexual sins are disqualifying? We seem to focus on adultery but what about chronic self gratification that renders the man unable to consummate his marriage? Is this type of addiction sin? Should he be in the pulpit or teaching Bible studies?
deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Hebrews 12:1-17 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.
Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.
Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
Praying for Dylan 🙏
Excellent words by Oscar Navarro quoting D.A. Carson just before 9:00 matk about, "restoration" of fallen pastors.
The Bible said believe in God, all things are possible. After many struggles, I finally own a new house, and my family is happy once again. Everything is falling into place!
Leviticus 13:55-59 And the priest shall look on the plague, after that it is washed: and, behold, if the plague have not changed his colour, and the plague be not spread; it is unclean; thou shalt burn it in the fire; it is fret inward, whether it be bare within or without.
And if the priest look, and, behold, the plague be somewhat dark after the washing of it; then he shall rend it out of the garment, or out of the skin, or out of the warp, or out of the woof:
And if it appear still in the garment, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in any thing of skin; it is a spreading plague: thou shalt burn that wherein the plague is with fire.
And the garment, either warp, or woof, or whatsoever thing of skin it be, which thou shalt wash, if the plague be departed from them, then it shall be washed the second time, and shall be clean.
This is the law of the plague of leprosy in a garment of woollen or linen, either in the warp, or woof, or any thing of skins, to pronounce it clean, or to pronounce it unclean.
People seem to miss this one thing..... that they put people on a pedestal (instead of focusing on Jesus and His Word) - and when God removes the pedestal, they are devastated! We must get our focus right - JESUS IS THE CHRIST, THE RISEN SON OF THE LIVING GOD.
Only His Word is pure milk, not the teachings of men. Follow Jesus, mot this or that man
" God is more concerned with your Godliness than your giftedness" IRONICALLY a quote from Steve Lawson! The quote is very true, even if Dr. Lawson's chsracter doesn't match what he stated.
2 Corinthians 7:12
Wherefore, though I wrote unto you, I did it not for his cause that had done the wrong, nor for his cause that suffered wrong, but that our care for you in the sight of God might appear unto you.
1 Corinthians 5:5 LSB
[5] deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.
Jesus lives! ♥️ and is Yahweh God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑 for all the be
Bible is very strict when it comes to church leaders and how to pick them. And to my knowledge, any church leader I met doesn’t fit that standard and they are rather chosen based on popularity points than on genuine and pure life. They are often divorced and remarried, seeking power, manipulative, gossiping, don’t like to have people in their houses ( as Bible command) so I am not surprised that they are falling
The crucifixion burial and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ was was VICTORY over Satan and his demons. My true brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus don't lose faith have courage and stay faithful to the end our Lord Jesus is coming back soon
Dr. Lawson's sin reminds us that even the best of us are still in desperate need of the grace of God.
Very often the church is not a safe and supportive place. Just look at the kind of leadership. And this isn't an unusual case. This is common. It's everywhere.
They deny the power to live holy.
The power given by the Holy Spirit is to confess your sins, live holy and to love and bear the fruit of the Spirit. It's not power to laugh and shake, speak gibberish and swoon.
If you don't confess your sins to Jesus, purify your hear heart, bear the fruit of the Spirit, and live holy, then you are denying the power thereof.
2 Timothy 3
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Praying for Steve Lawson and his family, I am heart broken about the news.
Great topic, so sad. Lessons in following THE Shepherd and not man. We can't base our faithfulness on the failure of man. JESUS never fails.
Preachers preach about David's sin and we can definitely learn from the root of the whole situation..... Idleness, eyes handling....etc.
Some preachers aslo spoke about Ravi.
I think Ray has a video on it
What about tb joshua ? I think the church can learn from their mistakes.
Ray if you make a video on tb joshua, you will have many africans come after you ........they will tear you, with their comments.
This is precisely why one's trust in Christ should never be dependent on the belief of a parent, or teachings of a particular pastor.
All I ask did yous Make that Good Video on God in creations or did some of Eles ive asked creation science but not herd back ffom them haha a brother in Christ used to play it a bit on his Paltalk room i asked but i just got the name of the movie that i now have for gotten the name off it was out before the p@dc
😢 William Gurnall’s (and other puritan) wisdom never ceases to amaze me. Lord, help us to have such conviction. ❤
1. Porn addiction is rife among American pastors and males in congregation according to a survey. 50% - 68%.
Yet, a young believer seeking help can be shunned. Few churches deal with that issue.
2. A new female believer in my former church shared her deep concern that one of the lay preachers had been in a long-term adulterous relationship with her cousin. She told me where they'd meet up.
I went to one of the leaders to make them aware of what I'd been told. The reply: why do you listen to gossip?
I never saw the lady again. I left that church not long after though not for that particular reason.
I'm in a church that openly deals with the good, the bad and the ugly.
1. Let those in the comments who are without sin cast the first stone.
2. Devil did a job on steve Lawson and used a woman to bring him down. This has happened many times to powerful men in authoritative positions for thousands of years. This is not new.
3. Lawson now does not meet the requirements to be a pastor, teacher, or deacon, but if he repents he can still be a disciple that shares the gospel with the lost.
4. What a powerful testimony steve Lawson could have with an audience of fallen men if he can repent and recover, he could caution other preachers and help others deal with falling down
Dr. Adrian Rogers said, "God can draw a straight line with a crooked stick." You don't throw away the truth God has given you through a man whose sin has been revealed. We don't throw away the Psalms because of David's sins. It cost him a lot. Sin is costly. We do want a pastor who consistently walks with the Lord. It also says not to rebuke an elder in I Tim. 5:1. Matthew 18 gives direction on dealing with such an issue.
If my pastor fell, I would not stop being a Christian. I would get a new pastor, maybe a new church. Honestly, they are human, i listen to different teachings online and none are perfect, so i just learn from the best ones i can find.
The pastor who brought me to the Lord fell almost immediately after, maybe he was falling during... but the Holy Spirit (before everyone knew) told me to not just listen to him, to listen to others also, days before he "fell." I didn't want to, but i obeyed. I believe it helped me a lot. I'm also told by the Holy Spirit that God loves him greatly, so I pray for him. Others are still caught up in defending or criticizing him. I'm blessed with great teachings today. That pastor got me saved, but he was already lacking in the preaching department. Sometimes it was very good, sometimes confusing.
How sad. I enjoyed his book, When All Hell Breaks Loose. A brief commentary on the book of Job. Truly we must continue to uphold pastors and elders in prayer.
How sad. I enjoyed his book, When All Hell Breaks Loose. A brief commentary on the book of Job. Truly we must continue to uphold pastors and elders in prayer.
Immediately we stop surrendering to Christ Jesus, we will fall.
We are weak and so we must remain humble in His sight for Him to give us the grace to remain steadfast.
I do pray for my pastor often. For some reason its never occured to me the burden he takes hearinv everyones problems. I know hes got a huge responsibility for teaching, preparing sermons, people calling needing help with different problems needing solutions, their call to preach the gospel planting that seed to save souls. And the toll it takes on his family having him away so much. It never really occured to me the toll that hearing all those issues would take on him and wear him down. Thank you for that insight so I can include it in my prayers. Praying for the pastors of this world 🙏
The modern day church and culture...the great falling away...rejoice as we are one day closer to His return! Share the Gospel and pray for all the unsaved today.
What Oscar said at @5:00 makes me ask what living Waters thinks about the various platforms that have removed all and every sermon, book or article he's ever given? Is that not throwing the baby out with the bathwater? I'm genuinely wondering.
Thank you for this video. I see this situation in a better light now. I’m grateful for the ministry and guidance of Living Waters ministry.
Great apro ach Mr comfort love your videos keep bringing all the good stuff I personally work in progress, but at the end jesus is what matters not are good deeds , but sometimes we all get it twisted when it comes to SIN .
Best regards
We need to rethink what pastoring really means, and why we give so much power and authority to pastors, they should be Bible teachers not in the place of superiority. Once people are on stage and given much attention and fame, pride crouches in. So does sin.
I was someone who experienced church hurt and the betrayal came from pastors who I asked for help when I was homeless. One of them even had a house for me to rent. It wasn’t just me it was my brother too who had a job, money saved so we managed to pay the rent. Not even two months of us renting he barges in without permission and kicked us out of the house back onto the streets with no explanation. He just said he wanted to sell the house fast and never told us that beforehand. I lost respect for these pastors to the point I’d stopped going to church for a while until I felt convicted inside to go back to church and I did. I forgave those pastors but sadly these pastors I speak of still have their positions. One of them though has faced loss of congregants in his church and the other has a history of boasting and bragging about what he has. It’s sad.
No one is blameless, all have sinned, all deserve eternal punishment.
Only because of grace by Faith in Jesus can anyone be saved.
*So focused on the idolatry of your vocation...* This man is spot on with so many of his insights. I appreciate hearing them.
Dylan and Manny seem like they are legitimately open. I pray that they would turn to Jesus and repentance and gratitude
The pastor I watch says that anyone caught in adultery shouldn't ever be in leadership again