If you fail the Final Eddie Low mission but manage to disarm Eddie´s knife, You get a scary Mission Failed text "Eddie Low is still out there...Waiting" instead of "Eddie Low got away"
Wow, you know, I never knew about this. I even watched the "all possibilities" video from another content creator about this character and I must've missed seeing that detail. How crazy Rockstar went on this character is absolutely speechless.
Jacob is awsome for how respectful and genuinely loyal he is to Niko. He’d come with him for certain important missions to watch Niko’s back, and he feels like a true friend.
Roman's Sorrow is the peak dramatic moment, beautiful culmination of the first and the best act. At the same time, the dialogue and performance make it truly relatable and believable.
Roman’s Sorrow is truly heartbreaking. Like I said, you hear the anguish taking place. He goes from being very outraged at the situation, then, seconds later, he desolates.
Same here. I also think it’s one of the peak missions. You also get to unlock a new area. Not also what makes this mission incredible. It’s one of the best not as good as unlocking the second island though, but still both islands are my favourite both Bohan and Algonkin are my favorite.
"when you walk into a village and you see 50 children lined against the church wall each with their throats cut and their hands chopped off you realize the creature that could do this does not have a soul" this line from Niko still haunts me to this day its made even darker by the fact the war Niko fought in was real and this scenario could've very well actually happened
@@triadwarfare while GTA protagonists arent saints and niko is only rivaled by trevor in ruthlessness i dont think rockstar would have us play a guy who killed 50 children and even nikos not that evil
That is why Niko is the best GTA character. He saw the most screwed up people in GTA but still can keep himself together. I guess only an army veteran can keep that composure.
I think it would be even creepier if they counted Eddie Low as another victim of the serial killer, which means that liberty city thinks that the player is the serial killer
What's really creepy is if you don't kill Eddie the first time he tries to attack you and he gets away, a failed mission screen will appear along with the message "Eddie is still out there.... waiting...".
Unlikely.. it wont count because a serial killer has an M.O and methodical in his killings.. after all, a serial killer is creature of habit, and its always their downfall.. also, eddie low has already confessed to the killings, can assume he did proudly like so many other real life serial murderers.
Roman's sorrow sounded so authentic, his voice breaking up as he lamented the loss of the engagement ring he wanted to show off sounded SO genuine. Superb voice acting.
Roman is just the reflect of how hard life is for immigrants in the US believing in the lie of the American dream. They try to impress people in their home countries but in reality they barely make ends meet.
@@NotAJ voice acting, characters were written exceptionally well, gameplay, mechanics, physics , it was the peak of what gta is supposed to be. great side characters both good and bad side characters. i loved jacob and packie for example, but hated brucie and dimitri. not because they were annoying, but because their voiceactors put in such incredible work that they actually felt like real characters. the humor is great in this game aswell. gta iv = the pinnacle of what gta is supposed to be. and then they came with grand arcade auto 5...... wow. downgrade, after downgrade, wrapped in more downgrades in comparison to iv.
@@deathrager2404 nah GTA V is actually really good if you really sit down and play it, the story is written super well and greatly detailed, it;s just overshadowed by the money generator that is gta online
Kind of strange that so much attention is turning back to GTA IV. I remember playing this game on day one and was amazing back then, and holds up almost untouched by time. GTA 4 is probably my favorite out of all of them, and I'm pretty much at the end of the game for the second time in 10 years or more. One of my first memories was playing the first GTA on the PS1 at the foot of my moms bed, and I grew up with the franchise from there
Wow, thank you for sharing that here on the video ❤️ Reminds me about how this game also got attached to me. My sister is actually the one who got me this game when I was younger. I was just 8 years old when it came out. I desperately asked my mom and dad for the game on my PS3, for which at the time is when I was playing Metal Gear Solid 4: GOTP. My parents said no. But my sister snuck it for me and spent her work money on it. What an amazing memory for me. This game holds true to my heart.
No problem, it's a core memory that actually got brought up & discussed recently so I guess it was on my sleeve. I can tell you had an awesome sister. Shout out to her! I remember how difficult it was to get some games back then. The days @NotAJ
fun fact: At 17:59, Mrs. Faustin offered niko tea and throughout the whole story, this is the only time he accepted an offer or a drink from someone which is wholesome in a way
@@radioactiverat8751I think Niko does care if he lives, obviously he would just let the Russians kill him if he didn't care about his life, I think hes just so numb to the life of crime and thinks Americans have it easy in liberty city compared to the shit he's been through.
Couldn't have said that any better. And look how long it took them to just exceed this from their previous GTA title before this? Took only a very little number of years and it has the one of the largest sets of voice casters in any video game.
I always killed Derrick. He always came across to me as a rat, everyone he's ever had dealings with said that too. And he's dead by GTA 5 anyways so there's not really any point in sparing him. Frank was a crook, but a commissioner in the making and every thing the city represented. Having him in your back pocket was a good thing for Niko (at least until the end game when his slate got wiped clean and got cut loose). People like to shit on Frankie, but I think him getting out alive has to be the cannon choice, considering the way game ends. All McRearys either dead or inside, Packie leaving town and their mom likely dying of grief/old age, and he becomes a Commissioner and runs the city.
@@AbdulAziz-im2emit’s definitely canon Derrick needed to go because he was suffering. Francis was a crook but also like you said a good thing to have. He was like mikes Saul.
if you finish the ending when Roman dies and you kill dimitri, you can call everyone you can. Kate promises to help you, but in-game weeks later she will break up with you and you can no longer call her again. I find that more painful
I wish you added the conversations between niko and packie during their hangouts. There's 2 that I can specifically remember. Packie talks about a time Gerry and Francis had the absolute worst fight of all time. Gerry nearly Killed Francis and the way he describes it makes it sound so brutal. Kate was only a child when she witnessed this crying in a corner, their mother witnessed it but just remained silent and emotionally destroyed by what she witnessed. Another conversation Packie gets a bit emotional as he's talking about how him and Gerry were molested by their father when they were kids. That's why they hate him so much even in death. Their father killed himself shortly after. Packie thought for a long time that Gerry must have killed him but realised that the drunken bastard most likely killed himself. And the amount of times the children witnessed their own mother being beaten to near death by their father made packie question why she still leaves a plate for him at the table given that he's been dead "not long enough" according to Packie
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on what you believe were also some dark moments in the storyline. I do agree that this actually does make Top 10. I can't believe I'd miss that. What a sad story in the McCreary family, honestly. Their own brothers sometimes don't care about each other (such as Francis to Derrick, etc.), the father they had was abusive, and the family relationship they all have has torn Kate apart, making her exit a sad story.
@@NotAJnah man you're all good. I get it there's so much content within this game that it's incredibly difficult to find everything. There's youtubers still finding new content to this day whether in game or cut content (excellent video on the cut phone calls by the way) so no ones really expecting 11 out of 10 things to be listed 😂. It is still a fantastic video even without it, I just wanted to bring it up in case you didn't know because like our drunken friend Mel says "it's good to share" haha. So keep up the good work. And what you said about the Mcrearys, tell me about it man. Their entire lore can possibly make for a really interesting video just centered around them if you ever feel like it'll be fun to make one. Though... depressing is more accurate given the context. Their past honestly makes me understand why and how they all turned out the way they did. Packie being addicted to coke, Gerrys drinking problem and Derricks unfortunate demise in Ireland leading him to be addicted to heroine and alcohol. A horrifically depressed mother who had to witness absolutely anything bad that could happen to her family, happen right in front of her with her not being able to do anything about it out of fear. Kate on the other hand, it's like Packie said, "Kate's the only decent one" but I do believe her being religious would have been more of a cry for help. That was her only option. She's in denial of a lot of things but still sees right through everything involving her family, even though she wishes she could be completely oblivious. A choice to force herself to live in denial as a coping mechanism makes her just as tragic as her brothers. But Francis..... he is the worst. Arguably not as bad as his father but he is without a doubt 2nd to the worst. A clergyman who was stealing from his own church, gets caught, becomes a cop, makes you go after a lawyer (unless there's actual proof about him being a horrible person from anyone other than this lying scumbag that I couldn't find/remember) who sounds like someone who actually wanted to make the world a better place, just for evidence against him. Not bad enough, he forces you to kill his brother who, while yes desperate for help and in incredibly bad shape, still treated you with kindness and respect... only because he was scared that Derrick would rat him out and prevent him from becoming commissioner. His own brother. And manipulates you with that "he's already dead just put him out of his missery" bullshit. And as an extra layer on this shit icing cake, he treats you like shit since the moment he asks you to meet with him at the pier then pretends to act friendly to get you to do his bidding. F uck him. It's because of this I always assassinate his ass. Only depressing part is it kills their mothers soul again because at the end of the day he was her son. Also that little shit convinced her he's "always been a good boy" so she genuinely believed out of all the brothers he was the only good one. Just terrible. And Kate does not deserve to die especially after all that's happened in her life. Her brothers and their mother do not deserve that type of pain. Not anymore. Especially her mother. Stockholm confused grief for her dead husband, two sons are addicts, one is in prison, one is dead (based on Packies conversation in GTA 5 Derrick ends up dying at some point after the story regardless of your choice so another son dead and probably from an overdose), having her lose her only daughter too.... fuck... that. Doing the deal is my only option personally. As much as I hate that rat Dimitri, as much pain that it'll bring Niko, Mal, and his friends with Roman dying, that family has suffered too much. Both terrible options but I can never stop thinking about that family throughout all my playthroughs (except the first since I had no idea that was going to happen and I needed my sweet revenge). For me personally, the price of revenge is not worth bringing that family the absolute worst pain imaginable after what they have all been through. And on a side note, unless I'm missing something, Packie calls you crying after her death (which genuinly hurt) but Francis never says shit about her. All he sends you is an email on the LCPD database... piece of s hit. Shit... I'll shut up now 😂
@@mirekned9989I love GTA IV like no other GTA game. And I also love how you took your time to type all of this. As much as I love Roman and even tough it's (probably) canon that Kate dies and not Roman, I also like the Revenge ending more. Not just because that Kate gets to live and Packie still got his sister but I also believe it makes the ending more impactful. Plus killing Dimitri in the final mission just seems more cooler and dramatic since he's been the villain throughout the whole game.
The Darko fate one is a win/lose situation... Morally you did the right thing, Darko will have to live with the guilt. However, if you were tracking someone down for all those years and dedication you would've done those 12 bangs. Gra 4 was an art
@Darkwear-vr8biwell yeah, it’s pretty obvious that the one where u don’t kill the guy is the win in that scenario, nobody is saying it’s a bad thing to spare the guy
Killing darko is morally right. Retribution is justified in his case. There's no guarantee that darko won't get some therapy and start feeling good about himself again.
@Darkwear-vr8bi that is hindsight no way to be sure that would be the result b4 sparing him. And dying from an overdose is too peaceful a death for him in my opinion.
@@santosarr I Think Rockstar didn't wanted people to be exposed to the dark side of the world anymore, so they made GTA V more enjoyable about great things of life.
@@Dr_CJ_ Rockstar already exposed people to the dark side of the world with Carcer city in the game Manhunt. Carcer city is even mentioned by Michael in GTA V which makes Manhunt cannon to the GTA universe.
Eddie Low,The serial killer from RDR2, and the Manhunt series shows that Rockstar really knows how to write psychopath killers in a truly disturbing and unnerving way
The mission where you choose between killing Francis or Derrick was the hardest emotionally for me: Derrick's life was already in ruins it seemed killing him puts him out of the misery he endures, but still he fears of his life that he calls for protection. Francis had a promising future in the LCPD along with the threat of having "Dirts" on Niko and exposing them should Niko disobey him. For me, killing to protect someone was far better than to protect yourself, so Francis went to hell.
That’s so true. It’s like Niko’s hand was forced no matter the direction he magnetized himself to, or got magnetized to 🙁 Such a sad storyline to take place, especially after knowing what their family has been through
One thing you missed. There is a girl you could meet in a park in a random encounter same way to the jeff guy. The girl is actually a teen who had ran away from home, is a substance addict, and is apparently that Minecraft tool for farming. She asks niko for some money to buy her substance and offers to have stuff with him for money, but he denies and instead goes out of his way to make sure the girl goes to a rehab and is recovered. Towards the end of her arc, it's shown that she has gone back home to her parents and mailed niko that her life has been resolved now and she has started learning psychology at a college. She returns in GTA 5 but as a member of epsilon cult. Apparently, even after getting rehabbed, she was still predated on by that cult and her life is again in ruins.
@@NotAJ yes that's true. I saw a video about her last week. GTA 4 goes a long road to show how people think of America as the land of dreams but land in ruckus pursuing their ambitions
the older i get the more i respect this game, i remember when i was younger just playing it for fun, later paying some attention to the story and then taking the story completely seriously and it just hit me like a truck, like it has so many details that i didn’t notice before on previous playthroughs, i realized that the game is genuinely “scary” and intriguing (in the way of life, the stuff that happens in the game and what people are capable of) and i respect it more and more with each yeah passing
I was the same way, because I first played this when I was 8 years old. I was around this age when the game came out. So having played the story mode at that age was kind of like “eh, I could care less”. But growing up, and now being 24, it’s easy to see how remarkable this game is and how truly underrated it is for its awesome writing by Rockstar 👏
@@NotAJ oh yeah i just remembered that when the game came out and for a few years after that people hated the game for its realism but that turned around thankfully and people actually realized the worth of the game, but because people didn’t like it very much we lost johnny klebitz in gta 5 for a gag which is sad because he was a good character and gta 5’s story was much much less serious but still good in some parts like with michael and franklins past, but i will always prefer gta 4 multiplayer to gta online because i like having fun and not grinding all day, but atleast they included gay tony in gta online dlc as of now so they still acknowledge their past, but i still prefer old rockstar developing games, trying risky ideas and publishing more than 1 game in half a decade instead of milking a single game for every stinking cent it’s worth
Eddie's encounters were some of the most disturbing missions I've ever come across in gta 4, at first i thought he was playing some kind of sick joke on niko but then at the end he felt like a total deranged serial killer there's theories that he's obsessed with his mom as in he wants to marry her, Manny getting killed then have his organs sent to a doctor was really messed up I know he was annoying but I didn't expect his fate to go down in such a dark way.
Yes, you’re so right about that, Eddie is truly one scary person. Even playing GTA IV today, I still find the encounters with him to run chills down my spine. And for real? He wanted to marry his own mother? I know there’s those websites of him up at the internet café which I’ll check out more on, but that’s insane. Also yeah, Manny getting killed was a shock for everyone - no one would’ve expected someone like him to die. But he was also kind of asking for it and putting a lot of risk on the line by wanting to bust drug dealers and coke pushers. Crazy storyline, isn’t it?
@@NotAJ they claim that as a young child his dad would make him cross dress and perform sexual stuff on him which caused Eddie to kill his dad, and he was in a sexual relationship with his mom, so he placed his dad body in an oven and buried his mom in the sand but he regretted it because he wanted to marry her, the game doesn't mention it but it's definitely disturbing and messed up.
Some people find him annoying, which is true, but he has a parallel to Gracie. He’s just innocent and doesn’t like the guns and crime ordeal. He’s more of a sweetheart if you will, just a good soul altogether. So people find him more intrusive to Niko than as someone who’s actually cool and keeps Niko’s mentality afloat.
I hate but i like roman at the same time, i hate roman because GOD MY, HE DOSENT S T O P OF CALLING ME FOR BOWLING. (tho is an fun minigame bowling) but i like its character so much
I wanna add something, Ray Boccino. To think that everyone thinks he's an a$$hole and not to be trusted and in the end he was one of the more decent ones in the game. He was loyal and a man of his word. In the end Peggorino did him dirty.
I agree with this outlook heavily, in the sense that Ray was pretty much a man of his word and keeps his loyalty to Niko. However, I do find that him getting whacked was probably foreshadowed, because think about it - and Pegorino said it best. Ray went way far ahead of the boss' plan and made moves on his own, when yet the boss (Pegorino) wasn't even ready to meet that stage yet. This whole 'diamond' thing was really coordinated by Pegorino in the first place. But Ray had his eye on the prize and figured that taking further steps ahead of Pegorino's plan would help him in the long run, so he can get the diamonds and call it a win. What Pegorino didn't suspect was Ray having the diamonds all to himself, even he doesn't say that to Niko - all he says to Niko is that Ray messed up the entire diamond ordeal even after having taken so many steps ahead. And because the Pegorino family was being watched by the feds, he only could suspect that Ray had to be the one since he was making moves that were probably for his own good and not the family's (greed, in other words). There's a lot of strange things that Ray did as a member of the family. Since Ray's greed took over, Pegorino saw it as a way of Ray probably trying to capitalize the situation for his own good. And doing that in a mob is dangerous and makes anyone such as Ray to be portrayed as someone who's untrustworthy. The Lost and Damned showed that in a pretty crazy way too.
In all my playthroughs, I couldn't let Roman die in the ending, without even knowing about his mother, now I know I did the right choice. Bro deserves a happy life.
As powerful as Roman's Sorrow is, it annoys me how much Roman tries to blame Niko for all his problems. Saying everything was fine until Niko showed up. His computer was smashed and he got beat up because he was in massive debt, was shot in a basement because he wouldn’t stop screaming despite being told to stop, and they were only there because Niko killed Vlad AFTER Roman basically called him disloyal all because he didn't tell Roman about a suspicion that Vlad was sleeping with Mallorie.
You’re so right about that. I also find it annoying that Roman accuses Niko for all his problems. And simply because Roman got Niko wrapped up in his problems, by forcing Niko to practically work with Vlad (in the mission, “Easy Fare”). And this wasn’t even Niko’s choice (lol). Especially with all those loan shark problems he had. But then again, I guess we kind of have to remember, Roman didn’t really ask Niko to kill Vlad, did he? He just confronted Niko for not telling Roman about it, even though Roman was out of his mind and drunk on the alcohol. And this is how Niko unfortunately got himself and Roman wrapped around in the mess with the Russian Mafia. I do imagine that things would’ve gone better if Niko didn’t lose his chill. There’s actually an unused phone call from Mallorie that says she slept with Vlad only to get back at Roman for having affairs with other women (I have a video on December 1st about that lol). So there’s a lot of outlooks on the entire situation. I suppose there’s no right or wrong from Roman’s context, but what he says is definitely contradictory and draws the blame back on him for a few reasons while also sharing it with Niko.
Well Niko did kill Vlad out of impulse and he did get manipulated by Dimitri into killing Faustin. Had Niko not been there/acted by impulse/been manipulated, Vlad and Faustin would've not been killed (at least by Niko). Can't really blame him for killing Faustin but I always thought the Uncle Vlad mission was a little bit out of place, judging that the boiling point was Vlad sleeping with Mallorie. Was Vlad really tho? If so then Mallorie herself is also partially to blame here for even considering Vlad, who's a scumbag goon and drug addict. There were no hints of Faustin betraying Niko anytime, but Dimitri would betray Faustin soon or later regardless of Niko's actions. Hell, he could've even contacted Johnny to kill Faustin had Niko not been there, just like he did contact him to kidnap Roman. At the end, Roman shouldn't have blamed Niko for it all, sure, but Niko did collaborate to part of it. And so did Mallorie and mostly everyone else. I'd say the only one who can't take any blame for anything is Jacob. It's kinda like how Sweet acts in SA, as he's extremelly annoying once he's released from prison and blames the downfall of the families on CJ's moving out and working with Woozie, when in fact it wasn't CJ's fault but Smoke's and Tenpenny's.
@NewRodin oh I'm not saying Niko didn't contribute to any of what went on, but for Roman to say everything was fine until Niko showed up is laughable. If anything Niko turning up probably saved Roman from getting killed by either the Albanians or Russians because no way would he have paid off the debts without Niko working for Vlad or anyone else because he couldn't control his gambling addiction. Yeah as far as San Andreas goes, growing up and playing that makes you realise how immature and selfish Sweet is. Can't stand that CJ wanted more to life than just "the hood."
I pretty much said the same thing, like technically it wasn’t all Niko fault. He just stood up to them mfs who were probably gonna try to fuck them over anyways… like when vlad was screwing his girl and he blamed Niko for that too like no they were assholes and Niko was technically not wrong 🤷🏾♀️
Give Roman a break. His entire life just crumbled in front of his eyes, he's stressed out, so he's trying to vent frustration the only way that is available to him. No one is ideal.
That was sick, great work. This reminded me how much of a great game GTA IV was. Much better than GTA V in many ways. You can't replicate the atmosphere, realism and darkness of GTA IV. It's immaculate.
GTA IV was sooo ahead of its time its crazy. You could start it up right now and it would still feel like a modern, relatively recent game. I bough a PS3 just to replay the game again. Fantastic storyline and atmosphere.
Will forever be my favorite gta. From the characters to the story to the location… such a great game so many memories as a kid playing this. I heard they might be remastering it after all these years , I hope they actually do it
You seem to have forgotten Malorie's call after the mission Mr. and Mrs. Bellic where she revealed she was pregnant. This made that whole scene of Roman dying even Darker.
Fun fact in the beta version all the visuals look really light and creepy because the design with it has a creepy look and it's all lighter still even though the game could be dark I think the weather and the visuals look exactly creepy as the beta version
The more years go by the more I recognize how R* absolutely outdid themselves with this game.. Always will be my favorite. Niko is a captivating character or antihero I should say, even the fact that they made an European main protagonist was huge for me at the time, its like they went all against the expectations and wanted to deliver something fresh narrative wise, which they absolutely did. I dont mean to bash other GTA titles but compared to them IV is very tasteful and doesnt suffer from identity crisis like SA and V do sometimes. I appreaciate the more minimal and realistic design. - Though seeing some of its BETA or unused content I have to wonder what this game could look like remastered or if the console hardware limitation wasnt an issue..
Rockstar truly outdid this themselves with GTA IV, without a doubt 👌 They did a great job with Niko Bellic’s character and making him very fitting with the storyline in mind, showing him trying to transition from bad to good, but, as it turns out, he couldn’t escape from the darkness. Thank you for sharing these thoughts ❤️
I replayed the game last year, his speech to Roman - “War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other”. That just hits different now that I’m older. I first played this game very young (kind of a bad idea, now that I look at it lol).
just mod it yourself. Ultimate textures 2.0 and Icenhancer 3 or 4 on at the same time is a better remaster than Rockstar could make with their current staff.
Yeah...i need to replay this game. Seeing Roman die still makes me tear up. This game deserves more love, R* did something special with this story. Its so so bleak yet completely captivating.
It’s truly an underrated game. I know that’s a bold thing to say, but I’d like to think that’s true. The story is unique, and so is the protagonist along with the characters he meets throughout the storyline. Definitely give this game a shot ❤️
Every stranger you met in IV felt part of the city, grounded in reality with their own issues or problems that Niko stumbled across. Some more light-hearted than others, but realistically told. The next GTA could easily be a trip down "look at me toon town" lane i.e. GTA V, but I hope Rockstar takes a more grounded approach with it.
I hope so, too. Because I do agree with you, GTA IV had really well-developed side characters that had rather more personality and character to them as opposed to the ones from GTA V that were kind of random and didn't make much sense.
Sadly GTAIV was a product of its time, back when gritty and noir was at its peak, when Nolan's Batman was the gold standard of filmmaking. We'll never get that again, as right now, social media, memes, and internet culture is king and GTAVI will represent that.
Darko is a mirror for Niko. Someone who let revenge ruin him. He sold out the squad becausw Goran and his men killed Darko's friends and neighbors. He had little incentive not to give up the squad's position especially with his H habit also playing into the equation. Niko has the choice to let go.
A lot of people don’t realize Darko is not evil, and Darko was more justified than Niko. Like you said they are mirrors; Darko could not live with his crimes, Niko became apathetic to it. If you know more about the ethnic cleansing in Bosnia done by Bosnian Serbs against Bosniaks (which Niko and Darko are Bosnian Serbs), how they would kill their own neighbors and family friends and the world they knew was turned to shit, people would sympathize with Darko more. Darko “sold out” his squad because of what they had done.
@@NotAJhe’s dead not wrong Packie leaves LC at the end of TBOGT it makes sense Gerry Is in prison for a long stretch, Francis got shot and killed, Kate shot and killed (canon), Derrick definitely Odeed him being him, and obviously the matriarch the mother she’s old it was just her time and Packie was the last one left.. that on its own is dark too bro lost his family and home.
@@vintage_sole4065Well, at least Gerry is alive. Was it explained how long he'll stay in prison? Not sure if I heard 10 years at some point in my playthrough. It would be cool if both Gerry and Packie can come back in 6. Packie is unlikely since he already returned, but you know.
I’ve read a Q&A of Rockstar years ago and they said they chose not to make canon / non-canon choices as they want to respect all players choices. They said they would love to bring Roman back for example, but that would contradict some players choices.
My favourite GTA. The dark undertones of the city and story beats make it feel so alive. Cant beat the euphoria physics either. Truly ahead of its time. I never liked the plastic look of GTA 5s character models and downgraded physics. I hope rockstar took notes for GTA 6
Like I told someone else, look how long this took them to make after their previous GTA title - it took them very little time. Yet, it's the game with one of the largest sets of voice actors and actresses involved. Rockstar truly outdid themselves with this title.
I completed this game maybe 4 or 5 times and I don't remember a single moment where Niko gets to be happy without something messed up happening afterwards making him feel miserable again. Either way there's no happy ending for him, only more suffering. Thank you rockstar for making this masterpiece it trully made me think at the time i played it about how life can be rigged from the start
I love how in gta the protagonists would willingly go along on sime insanely messed up missions. like Cj helping catalina rob a place and her ending up killing innocent people because she couldnt kill the guy behind the cash register, Trevor having so much fun torturing a guy, And Nico backhanding the fuck out of a poor girl to snap a pic of her kiddnapped to send to her father. Then always having to comment how fucked up it is after the fact and all the things wrong with it 😂 Like bro you didnt have to do it.
It was most definitely heartbreaking 💔 I never even knew about it until recently when I heard it in a conversation between Kate and Niko. This game is truly dark.
I thought I knew this game inside-and-out until I only discovered how sick and brutal that show was. I only saw it a few days ago. Remember one of the beginning episodes where Bas was getting out of pocket? Oof!
I just finished GTA IV a couple of days ago, and I also heard the Roman’s mother story and I felt so sorry for Niko. Things like this make me think how deep GTA IV is, and wow it was a horrible surprise. Also, Niko’s voice made it a lot worse because you can hear the level of sorrow
Manny was annoying but at least part of his heart was in the right place. There’s a performative part of his “cleaning up the streets” where he does not partake in the dirty work (having Niko murder drug dealers in a warehouse). Manny is the clean face to the otherwise dirty work of “cleaning up the streets” and the irony is he dies despite the fact that he’s mostly clean.
@@octm1lmfaooo right, remember when Niko snatched the camera and threw it to the ground and looked at it, shook his damn head and said “sorry” and asked him “now what did you want?” LMFAOOO
Definitely agree on Eddie being the scariest thing in the game by far. He's probably the biggest monster you can pull down next to either Dimitri or Bulgarin. The other scary thing is the sting/honeypot website the LCPD uses to catch predators. While it has no importance to the story, you have to wonder if online predators were so prevalent in LC that they had to make a sting site.
Eddie is truly one of those characters that Rockstar, I believe, worked really hard on to make him as realistic to a serial killer as possible - and they nailed it. AND THAT'S RIGHT! I can't believe I forgot to make an honorable mention of that. You're talking about the Little Lacey's Surprise Pageant?
@@NotAJ Yup. LLSP (the sting site) is actually a reference to older games (mainly VCS). In those games it was an actual brand for pageants and underwear, with some VERY creepy ads and implications on the radio stations (I think Espantoso was the one). I think it was mentioned again in GTA V since there's a mission where you steal a JB 700 with an actress who was in a LL ad, and in GTA CW since you get an email from an undercover LCPD/FIB agent that mentions the site. It isn't the only reference to predation in the game, though - there's a baseball player who went out for a date with Jill von Crastenburg (who was 13 at the time) and one of the guys that hosted a show on WCTR in San Andreas got arrested on CSA charges in Bali. It's spine chilling when you look into it. And Eddie's website doesn't make it any better too.
I don’t know about any of you, but that delivery on “does that make you happy” is the darkest we ever hear Niko himself. If anything it feels like a hint of his fate after Roman dies. Curiosity in a place where it has no belonging, No ending. Very close to losing himself in a void only monsters like Dimitri know.
I agree, the delivery on "does that make you happy" was the hardest hitting point in the conversation after having been done with the confrontation to Darko.
If Kate dies, the phone call from Packie is really sad. If it’s one of his brothers, he’s kinda like “ah shit that sucks”. Kate is a different story. The sadness in Packie’s voice is heartbreaking
I always thought the sad part about Elizabeta was that she grew up with Manny or something, and most of Mallories aquantances were all childhood friends in Bohan the way she talks about them.
"Whatever gets you off" is one of the worst ways Niko ever said even when the intent is to say "whatever you say, just get out ASAP", since it aggravates the predator side of Eddie even more. Dark humor, though.
I definitely didn't know the Romans mom bit, sheeesh. Eddie Low is such an interesting character, just how deranged and sick he is makes him one of the most twisted characters in all of GTA, if not the most twisted. Is there enough moments like these in the other GTA games to make more videos like this? Would be a cool series to make, top 10 darkest moments, or even theories.
I didn't know about Roman's mother after all these years until recently. Again, I was just bored and this happened to pop-up, so I was taken by surprise. And yes, Eddie Low is indeed one heck of an interesting guy. And of course, I can try to do that. I'd have to get myself as familiar as I could with the other GTA stories.
Makes sense why GTA IV sticks out from the rest of all the other GTAs. It was not about fame, money and being a king like all the other GTAs, its a real gritty story that honestly makes a great movie just from watching the cutscenes
“It’s a real gritty story that honestly makes a great movie”… exactly 💫 The movie like thing reminded me of Metal Gear Solid and how they also did the same with their stories. This game is something else, man.
@@NotAJ I will say it takes heavy influence from a lot of gangster and crime movies from the 90s, even the soundtrack plays a part. I love how it reflects the unique New York culture of 70s - 00s which is undoubtedly New York's grittiest but most soulful decades
Manny only wanted the fame, he didn’t care for the streets and it’s implied he’s still on drugs himself. And Niko’s comment at the end is sarcasm, as he knew manny’s true intentions
GTA IV is the peak of when Rockstar knew how to make a realistic game. It felt as if you were in a city somewhere out in the world irl. How long until they can make another GTA like this? Let’s hope they were able to do it with GTA VI
that manny death scene still haunts me because of how unexpected it was. and that subtle gasp from the camera man made it even worse. Man GTAIV's stranger missions were pretty F'd up, looking back at it.
Yeah, literally. Imagine the camera man’s last moments. All he saw was his boss/friend being shot, then all of a sudden saw the tip of a Glock in his face.
It's not actually that dark because Trevor actually did a favor to the guy by letting him live and dropping him at the airport so he can gtfo from that place. Otherwise the government people would have disposed of him already
GTA IV is still by far my favorite GTA story and Niko is still my favorite character. They knew when to use humor and when to get serious, and when the serious moments hit they hit hard.
In defense of sparing Darko but going for the Revenge choice at the end: considering how Darko is now a broken down junkie, hes not a threat to anyone anymore, or he wont be within the near future. Niko aint stupid either, so after seeing how Darko suffers from simply existing, Hed probably think that would be a more suitable punishment for him. Dimitri however, got contacts *and* soldiers all around the city basically, and, as the psychopath he is, hes already decided to relentlessly ruin Nikos life til N kills himself, or til Dimitri himself is killed (as shown in the Deal ending). Also, Kate is supposed to be a close and reliable "voice of reason" to Niko at that point, and even She completely opposes that Deal. Thats just one theory to why i believe Revenge is logically canon... buuut seeing how rockstar love to fuc up their characters i just dont know anymore, lol
I spared darko too… I was like he ain’t even worth the damn bullet and even though you spent all that time going from mob to mob lookin for him it was so pointless to kill him
But Dimitri caught allat smoke cause that asshole had me fked up off that Roman kidnap mission… even tho Roman is annoying? He acts like a baby deadass😂
I think the problem with GTA 5 is that it's too easy, nothing is difficult in that game, it's like is made for kids.. even tho the official target audience is mature, Rockstar only cares about making money, they know where the profit is, and when they realized giving up on DLC's for GTA 5 and only focussing on online will make them great profit they fully gave up on quality and focussed on quantity, I hope GTA 6 will have a good story I don't care about their online bs
I’ve watched a walkthrough of this game and didn’t realise how dark the themes were. Great video highlighting this. Goes to show the amazing writing involved for the dark moments of the game.
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I must've missed Eddie when I played the game but he's a real dark character..... and the way he specifically said boys instead of men made him sound like a creep as well 😖
I know, right? I didn’t think Rockstar’s writing could get this horrifying. It’s better than a cliche thriller film that’s made in Hollywood these days.
@@NotAJ Seeing videos like this makes me realise just how long it's been since I did a full playthrough of GTA 4.... my last time playing it was 2011 🤯 Maybe it's time I changed that 🤔🤔
Imo roman dying (while not ideal) is the superior emotional ending that makes the most sense in how you exact your revenge, chasing dimitri in the helicopter to easter island for the final showdown is so much more satisfying when you feel the pain of losing roman, while with Kate it was personal for sure, but it just doesn't carry the same weight as the alternative.
35:12 Low is laughing because Florida doesnt exist in this universe. Edit: I stand corrected, I just read that Florida DOES exist in GTA. Weird… this series does get inconsistent sometimes. Also, Florida will be renamed Leonida in GTA VI apparently.
Is that why he was laughing? Lol, I never even knew that. But it makes sense, because Florida in the GTA Universe is the state that Vice City is based off of, which I believe has a different name.
@@NotAJ probably 😅 I tried to make a joke. I guess it didn’t land lol. Also, it’s weird because this game mentions a couple of real life states like California mentioned by the LCHC DJ.
when eddie Low says "im not going anywhere. My friends are though. their Heading off" which means he unalive his own friends. and dumped them to the ocean. thats disturbing and creepy
Very disturbing, indeed. Kind of sad too at the same time. This is how he grew up - bad parents, bad guardians, bad friends, bad people. And sadly, he looks at his actions as if that's the way a normal human being lives.
If you fail the Final Eddie Low mission but manage to disarm Eddie´s knife, You get a scary Mission Failed text "Eddie Low is still out there...Waiting" instead of "Eddie Low got away"
lmfaooo
That’s kinda weird….😮
Wow, you know, I never knew about this. I even watched the "all possibilities" video from another content creator about this character and I must've missed seeing that detail. How crazy Rockstar went on this character is absolutely speechless.
If I see the “Eddie Low is still out there…waiting” text, I would become so paranoid while playing the game I would have a gun ready at all times
@@N3RO420 I would get so scared 😱 and nervous 😬 😩 and accidentally fart …
“How was the war?”
“It was great. You got to see people turn into animals and your close friends die.”
That gave you goosebumps too, eh?
@@NotAJ yep
This quote is more actual than ever…
@@NotAJ not really
@@NotAJ Jeff’s wife was annoying as shit though 😂
Jacob is a true friend.. he may be a in game NPC, but dude has made a friend out of all of us
💯💯💯
I always said this. Jacob was there for Nico from beginning to end. Always loyal. Always ready to blast for Nico during all the chaotic moments
Jacob is awsome for how respectful and genuinely loyal he is to Niko. He’d come with him for certain important missions to watch Niko’s back, and he feels like a true friend.
As Jamaican I always admire when y’all like Jacob because a lot of people don’t understand how we talk but I’m sure y’all understand his actions
@@Trevel4924 I learned how to understand because of Jacob 🫡
As dark as it gets, the line "bullet to a head is as natural as it gets in this town" still gives me giggles 😂
😂😂😂
Roman's Sorrow is the peak dramatic moment, beautiful culmination of the first and the best act. At the same time, the dialogue and performance make it truly relatable and believable.
Roman’s Sorrow is truly heartbreaking. Like I said, you hear the anguish taking place. He goes from being very outraged at the situation, then, seconds later, he desolates.
Same here. I also think it’s one of the peak missions. You also get to unlock a new area. Not also what makes this mission incredible. It’s one of the best not as good as unlocking the second island though, but still both islands are my favourite both Bohan and Algonkin are my favorite.
SA is better. 4 is boring.
@@element021993nuh uh
@@element021993grown up
"when you walk into a village and you see 50 children lined against the church wall each with their throats cut and their hands chopped off you realize the creature that could do this does not have a soul"
this line from Niko still haunts me to this day its made even darker by the fact the war Niko fought in was real and this scenario could've very well actually happened
It really changes the tone completely and makes you circle back to wondering what really went down 😣
It actually is close to the horrors committed in the Yugoslavian wars…Sadly.
Damn you ustashe !
Maybe the creature he was talking about was himself?
Darko did mention his comrades were not innocent and did atrocities before he sold them out.
@@triadwarfare while GTA protagonists arent saints and niko is only rivaled by trevor in ruthlessness i dont think rockstar would have us play a guy who killed 50 children and even nikos not that evil
GTA IV is an absolute gem. True GTA, showing reality of life and world we live in everyday. Very realistic
Agreed, my friend, agreed :)
Gta 4 is boring.
@@element021993 Your taste in quality games is boring
@@igor_rybovic SA and 5 are quality Gta. When 6 comes out, 4 will be forgotten in the garbage disposal.
@@element021993you just chatting
That is why Niko is the best GTA character. He saw the most screwed up people in GTA but still can keep himself together. I guess only an army veteran can keep that composure.
Agreed, he learns how to keep himself well-composed and stable throughout the entire story, no matter how much pain he goes through.
Totally. He saw it all and he believes humans can be absolute monsters.
Veterans sufferers from horrible ptsd.
Great, great story, Niko Belic is the best GTA character of all time.
@@stacyOyo Niko did mention that nobody sees dreams he sees and that he feels difficulty in sleeping, and that he was in a war
I think it would be even creepier if they counted Eddie Low as another victim of the serial killer, which means that liberty city thinks that the player is the serial killer
Wow lol that would’ve been crazy actually 😂 but I think they connected the dots using the DNA since they must’ve linked it
@@NotAJImo, the darkest thing is their first meet dialog. Serial-killer maniac recognised Niko as fellow "man-eater"
What's really creepy is if you don't kill Eddie the first time he tries to attack you and he gets away, a failed mission screen will appear along with the message "Eddie is still out there.... waiting...".
Unlikely.. it wont count because a serial killer has an M.O and methodical in his killings.. after all, a serial killer is creature of habit, and its always their downfall.. also, eddie low has already confessed to the killings, can assume he did proudly like so many other real life serial murderers.
Roman's sorrow sounded so authentic, his voice breaking up as he lamented the loss of the engagement ring he wanted to show off sounded SO genuine. Superb voice acting.
The voice acting overall for this game is just top notch. It’s “Metal Gear Solid” type of good ❤️
Roman is just the reflect of how hard life is for immigrants in the US believing in the lie of the American dream. They try to impress people in their home countries but in reality they barely make ends meet.
@@NotAJ voice acting, characters were written exceptionally well, gameplay, mechanics, physics , it was the peak of what gta is supposed to be. great side characters both good and bad side characters. i loved jacob and packie for example, but hated brucie and dimitri. not because they were annoying, but because their voiceactors put in such incredible work that they actually felt like real characters. the humor is great in this game aswell. gta iv = the pinnacle of what gta is supposed to be.
and then they came with grand arcade auto 5...... wow. downgrade, after downgrade, wrapped in more downgrades in comparison to iv.
Buy rly6@@deathrager2404
@@deathrager2404 nah GTA V is actually really good if you really sit down and play it, the story is written super well and greatly detailed, it;s just overshadowed by the money generator that is gta online
Kind of strange that so much attention is turning back to GTA IV.
I remember playing this game on day one and was amazing back then, and holds up almost untouched by time.
GTA 4 is probably my favorite out of all of them, and I'm pretty much at the end of the game for the second time in 10 years or more.
One of my first memories was playing the first GTA on the PS1 at the foot of my moms bed, and I grew up with the franchise from there
Wow, thank you for sharing that here on the video ❤️ Reminds me about how this game also got attached to me. My sister is actually the one who got me this game when I was younger. I was just 8 years old when it came out. I desperately asked my mom and dad for the game on my PS3, for which at the time is when I was playing Metal Gear Solid 4: GOTP. My parents said no. But my sister snuck it for me and spent her work money on it. What an amazing memory for me. This game holds true to my heart.
Gta 4 is boring.
Nah@@element021993
Is there any way I can play GTA 4 now? I have a PS5 for reference.
No problem, it's a core memory that actually got brought up & discussed recently so I guess it was on my sleeve.
I can tell you had an awesome sister. Shout out to her! I remember how difficult it was to get some games back then. The days @NotAJ
fun fact:
At 17:59, Mrs. Faustin offered niko tea and throughout the whole story, this is the only time he accepted an offer or a drink from someone which is wholesome in a way
Wow - good point and good catch - I never once thought about that.
Nah Playboy X gave him a whiskey or something in The Holland Play
@@NotAJ never be drunk on job... especially on that kind of work...
Because as far as I remember, everybody other than Mrs. Faustin offered Niko alcohol and drugs which Niko is clearly not into.
@@lewc3413iirc he accepted but didn’t even touch it
niko laughing at elizabeta for her fear of going to prison is pretty telling. we know what niko has been through, including his stay at prison.
For real lol, Niko scoffed because he’s like “you think prison is bad here?”… even he tells Packie this 😂
I also like that he probably doesn’t feel bad for her at all, like you chose this life Liz, these are the consequences for your actions.
@@MildChunkySalsayeah, Niko is pretty blunt about the life of crime. He doesn’t care if he lives or dies and he’s accepted it.
@@radioactiverat8751I think Niko does care if he lives, obviously he would just let the Russians kill him if he didn't care about his life, I think hes just so numb to the life of crime and thinks Americans have it easy in liberty city compared to the shit he's been through.
@@MildChunkySalsa I read, "These are the consenquences for your actions" in Niko's voice.
"It's always the quiet people, we should just start shooting all the quiet people." Always cracked me up, and i could never figure out why.
I couldn’t stop laughing when I heard that bit in the news report 😂😂
Not if this quiet person gets the drop on them first 😂
@johnsmith60 😂😂😂
Just the fact that Roman didn't know about how his mother died just broke my heart. This makes me wanna play GTA 4 again.
It’s so sad, isn’t it? All he knows is that she died in a house fire. So sad, my friend 💔
The fact I actually felt so many emotions in this video just shows the effort R* put into their game😢
Couldn't have said that any better. And look how long it took them to just exceed this from their previous GTA title before this? Took only a very little number of years and it has the one of the largest sets of voice casters in any video game.
@@NotAJDoesn’t have the record for the most though?
It’s almost 900 VA’s if I recall correctly.
It does!!
@@yeezyszn7208 wait.....900????
@@NotAJ And yet they couldn't find a real Serbian, but instead we got the hilariously bad Serbian language.
I feel like the McReary brothers asking you to kill eachother is pretty dark.
Couldn't have agreed more, that is pretty dark.
I always killed Derrick. He always came across to me as a rat, everyone he's ever had dealings with said that too. And he's dead by GTA 5 anyways so there's not really any point in sparing him.
Frank was a crook, but a commissioner in the making and every thing the city represented. Having him in your back pocket was a good thing for Niko (at least until the end game when his slate got wiped clean and got cut loose).
People like to shit on Frankie, but I think him getting out alive has to be the cannon choice, considering the way game ends. All McRearys either dead or inside, Packie leaving town and their mom likely dying of grief/old age, and he becomes a Commissioner and runs the city.
@@AbdulAziz-im2em I agree 100%
@@AbdulAziz-im2emit’s definitely canon Derrick needed to go because he was suffering. Francis was a crook but also like you said a good thing to have. He was like mikes Saul.
Wow I almost forgot about this one. Definitely agree
if you finish the ending when Roman dies and you kill dimitri, you can call everyone you can. Kate promises to help you, but in-game weeks later she will break up with you and you can no longer call her again. I find that more painful
The fact she leaves you afterward annoys me a lot because it just makes Niko even more upset. He loses both people.
@@NotAJit also made killing kate a no brainer for me
damn you lose her either way
Kate or Roman always choose Roman, Family! Bowling! Kate is just a tragic necessary loss, Roman is cousin!
I remember that 😂I was like ight Hoe Fk You then
I wish you added the conversations between niko and packie during their hangouts. There's 2 that I can specifically remember. Packie talks about a time Gerry and Francis had the absolute worst fight of all time. Gerry nearly Killed Francis and the way he describes it makes it sound so brutal. Kate was only a child when she witnessed this crying in a corner, their mother witnessed it but just remained silent and emotionally destroyed by what she witnessed. Another conversation Packie gets a bit emotional as he's talking about how him and Gerry were molested by their father when they were kids. That's why they hate him so much even in death. Their father killed himself shortly after. Packie thought for a long time that Gerry must have killed him but realised that the drunken bastard most likely killed himself. And the amount of times the children witnessed their own mother being beaten to near death by their father made packie question why she still leaves a plate for him at the table given that he's been dead "not long enough" according to Packie
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on what you believe were also some dark moments in the storyline. I do agree that this actually does make Top 10. I can't believe I'd miss that. What a sad story in the McCreary family, honestly. Their own brothers sometimes don't care about each other (such as Francis to Derrick, etc.), the father they had was abusive, and the family relationship they all have has torn Kate apart, making her exit a sad story.
@@NotAJnah man you're all good. I get it there's so much content within this game that it's incredibly difficult to find everything. There's youtubers still finding new content to this day whether in game or cut content (excellent video on the cut phone calls by the way) so no ones really expecting 11 out of 10 things to be listed 😂. It is still a fantastic video even without it, I just wanted to bring it up in case you didn't know because like our drunken friend Mel says "it's good to share" haha. So keep up the good work.
And what you said about the Mcrearys, tell me about it man. Their entire lore can possibly make for a really interesting video just centered around them if you ever feel like it'll be fun to make one. Though... depressing is more accurate given the context. Their past honestly makes me understand why and how they all turned out the way they did. Packie being addicted to coke, Gerrys drinking problem and Derricks unfortunate demise in Ireland leading him to be addicted to heroine and alcohol. A horrifically depressed mother who had to witness absolutely anything bad that could happen to her family, happen right in front of her with her not being able to do anything about it out of fear. Kate on the other hand, it's like Packie said, "Kate's the only decent one" but I do believe her being religious would have been more of a cry for help. That was her only option. She's in denial of a lot of things but still sees right through everything involving her family, even though she wishes she could be completely oblivious. A choice to force herself to live in denial as a coping mechanism makes her just as tragic as her brothers.
But Francis..... he is the worst. Arguably not as bad as his father but he is without a doubt 2nd to the worst. A clergyman who was stealing from his own church, gets caught, becomes a cop, makes you go after a lawyer (unless there's actual proof about him being a horrible person from anyone other than this lying scumbag that I couldn't find/remember) who sounds like someone who actually wanted to make the world a better place, just for evidence against him. Not bad enough, he forces you to kill his brother who, while yes desperate for help and in incredibly bad shape, still treated you with kindness and respect... only because he was scared that Derrick would rat him out and prevent him from becoming commissioner. His own brother. And manipulates you with that "he's already dead just put him out of his missery" bullshit. And as an extra layer on this shit icing cake, he treats you like shit since the moment he asks you to meet with him at the pier then pretends to act friendly to get you to do his bidding. F uck him. It's because of this I always assassinate his ass. Only depressing part is it kills their mothers soul again because at the end of the day he was her son. Also that little shit convinced her he's "always been a good boy" so she genuinely believed out of all the brothers he was the only good one. Just terrible.
And Kate does not deserve to die especially after all that's happened in her life. Her brothers and their mother do not deserve that type of pain. Not anymore. Especially her mother. Stockholm confused grief for her dead husband, two sons are addicts, one is in prison, one is dead (based on Packies conversation in GTA 5 Derrick ends up dying at some point after the story regardless of your choice so another son dead and probably from an overdose), having her lose her only daughter too.... fuck... that. Doing the deal is my only option personally. As much as I hate that rat Dimitri, as much pain that it'll bring Niko, Mal, and his friends with Roman dying, that family has suffered too much. Both terrible options but I can never stop thinking about that family throughout all my playthroughs (except the first since I had no idea that was going to happen and I needed my sweet revenge). For me personally, the price of revenge is not worth bringing that family the absolute worst pain imaginable after what they have all been through. And on a side note, unless I'm missing something, Packie calls you crying after her death (which genuinly hurt) but Francis never says shit about her. All he sends you is an email on the LCPD database... piece of s hit.
Shit... I'll shut up now 😂
@@mirekned9989 It's a good read man, thank you.
@@mirekned9989you broke this down real good 🔥🔥 thank you 🙏
@@mirekned9989I love GTA IV like no other GTA game. And I also love how you took your time to type all of this.
As much as I love Roman and even tough it's (probably) canon that Kate dies and not Roman, I also like the Revenge ending more.
Not just because that Kate gets to live and Packie still got his sister but I also believe it makes the ending more impactful.
Plus killing Dimitri in the final mission just seems more cooler and dramatic since he's been the villain throughout the whole game.
The Darko fate one is a win/lose situation...
Morally you did the right thing, Darko will have to live with the guilt. However, if you were tracking someone down for all those years and dedication you would've done those 12 bangs. Gra 4 was an art
That couldn’t have been said any better, which is why nothing about either of those outcomes is considerably good. Both of them have their pros/cons.
@Darkwear-vr8biwell yeah, it’s pretty obvious that the one where u don’t kill the guy is the win in that scenario, nobody is saying it’s a bad thing to spare the guy
Killing darko is morally right. Retribution is justified in his case. There's no guarantee that darko won't get some therapy and start feeling good about himself again.
Absolutely fair and respectful perspectives
@Darkwear-vr8bi that is hindsight no way to be sure that would be the result b4 sparing him. And dying from an overdose is too peaceful a death for him in my opinion.
Roman’s death in deal ending nearly made me cry. Truly one of the darkest moments.
Agreed, my friend 💔
I like people who make videos on GTA 4 😊
Thank you! 🥹❤️ I’ll keep doing them!
Roman’s mother, Niko’s backstory of the war, and Roman/Kate dying is a lot more darker. Also the setting in Liberty City in grey color is captivating.
For real, man, for real 💯
kinda sad this didnt get replicated in gta 5 with a serious tone and side missions..
@@santosarr I Think Rockstar didn't wanted people to be exposed to the dark side of the world anymore, so they made GTA V more enjoyable about great things of life.
@@Dr_CJ_gta 5 was the worst gta since gta3 online was coo tho
@@Dr_CJ_ Rockstar already exposed people to the dark side of the world with Carcer city in the game Manhunt. Carcer city is even mentioned by Michael in GTA V which makes Manhunt cannon to the GTA universe.
Eddie Low,The serial killer from RDR2, and the Manhunt series shows that Rockstar really knows how to write psychopath killers in a truly disturbing and unnerving way
So true!!
Edmund Lowry Jr.? I’d like to think he’s an ancestor of Eddie Low
The mission where you choose between killing Francis or Derrick was the hardest emotionally for me: Derrick's life was already in ruins it seemed killing him puts him out of the misery he endures, but still he fears of his life that he calls for protection.
Francis had a promising future in the LCPD along with the threat of having "Dirts" on Niko and exposing them should Niko disobey him.
For me, killing to protect someone was far better than to protect yourself, so Francis went to hell.
That’s so true. It’s like Niko’s hand was forced no matter the direction he magnetized himself to, or got magnetized to 🙁 Such a sad storyline to take place, especially after knowing what their family has been through
If u call francis when on vantage point he will double your paycheck after killing derrick...
Jeff's Wife: *Talking about her husband's increasingly hostile behavior*
Her Boyfriend: "The sky is blue."
😂😂😂
One thing you missed. There is a girl you could meet in a park in a random encounter same way to the jeff guy. The girl is actually a teen who had ran away from home, is a substance addict, and is apparently that Minecraft tool for farming. She asks niko for some money to buy her substance and offers to have stuff with him for money, but he denies and instead goes out of his way to make sure the girl goes to a rehab and is recovered. Towards the end of her arc, it's shown that she has gone back home to her parents and mailed niko that her life has been resolved now and she has started learning psychology at a college. She returns in GTA 5 but as a member of epsilon cult. Apparently, even after getting rehabbed, she was still predated on by that cult and her life is again in ruins.
Ah damn, you’re talking about Marnie, aren’t you? I didn’t even know about her ending arc with the cult. That’s so sad 😞
@@NotAJ yes that's true. I saw a video about her last week. GTA 4 goes a long road to show how people think of America as the land of dreams but land in ruckus pursuing their ambitions
I had it with Minecraft tool for farming😂
the older i get the more i respect this game, i remember when i was younger just playing it for fun, later paying some attention to the story and then taking the story completely seriously and it just hit me like a truck, like it has so many details that i didn’t notice before on previous playthroughs, i realized that the game is genuinely “scary” and intriguing (in the way of life, the stuff that happens in the game and what people are capable of) and i respect it more and more with each yeah passing
I was the same way, because I first played this when I was 8 years old. I was around this age when the game came out. So having played the story mode at that age was kind of like “eh, I could care less”. But growing up, and now being 24, it’s easy to see how remarkable this game is and how truly underrated it is for its awesome writing by Rockstar 👏
@@NotAJ oh yeah i just remembered that when the game came out and for a few years after that people hated the game for its realism but that turned around thankfully and people actually realized the worth of the game, but because people didn’t like it very much we lost johnny klebitz in gta 5 for a gag which is sad because he was a good character and gta 5’s story was much much less serious but still good in some parts like with michael and franklins past, but i will always prefer gta 4 multiplayer to gta online because i like having fun and not grinding all day, but atleast they included gay tony in gta online dlc as of now so they still acknowledge their past, but i still prefer old rockstar developing games, trying risky ideas and publishing more than 1 game in half a decade instead of milking a single game for every stinking cent it’s worth
At 4:19 I argue that Manny had it coming.
People who talk openly too much don't always keep their advantage. But the other missions surprised me more.
Gta 4 is boring. When 6 comes out you will forget about 4.
@@element021993 nah i won’t
Eddie's encounters were some of the most disturbing missions I've ever come across in gta 4, at first i thought he was playing some kind of sick joke on niko but then at the end he felt like a total deranged serial killer there's theories that he's obsessed with his mom as in he wants to marry her, Manny getting killed then have his organs sent to a doctor was really messed up I know he was annoying but I didn't expect his fate to go down in such a dark way.
Yes, you’re so right about that, Eddie is truly one scary person. Even playing GTA IV today, I still find the encounters with him to run chills down my spine. And for real? He wanted to marry his own mother? I know there’s those websites of him up at the internet café which I’ll check out more on, but that’s insane. Also yeah, Manny getting killed was a shock for everyone - no one would’ve expected someone like him to die. But he was also kind of asking for it and putting a lot of risk on the line by wanting to bust drug dealers and coke pushers. Crazy storyline, isn’t it?
@@NotAJ they claim that as a young child his dad would make him cross dress and perform sexual stuff on him which caused Eddie to kill his dad, and he was in a sexual relationship with his mom, so he placed his dad body in an oven and buried his mom in the sand but he regretted it because he wanted to marry her, the game doesn't mention it but it's definitely disturbing and messed up.
Niko got us justice
Ilyena Faustin was a greatly acted and written character. Short in the game yet permanently burned into my mind.
The person who played her role did such a fantastic job, she was underrated. I wish there was more that could’ve been done with her 👌
How anyone hates Roman is insane
Some people find him annoying, which is true, but he has a parallel to Gracie. He’s just innocent and doesn’t like the guns and crime ordeal. He’s more of a sweetheart if you will, just a good soul altogether. So people find him more intrusive to Niko than as someone who’s actually cool and keeps Niko’s mentality afloat.
Probably because bowling
Well i dont think you would love someone calling you to play bowling while you are busy fighting 56 drug dealers and robbing a bank
@@IskenderCaglarM41B441😂😂😂😂😂😂
I hate but i like roman at the same time, i hate roman because GOD MY, HE DOSENT S T O P OF CALLING ME FOR BOWLING. (tho is an fun minigame bowling) but i like its character so much
I loved Little Jacob his Jamaican accent was so fcking entertainin
For real, bredren 💯
You seen?
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Gta v: the american dream
Gta iv: the American reality
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Man idk, Elizebeta killing Manny is just hilarious to me lol
LOL
Kinda but manny was just overall a fun character, and maybe even a good one for trying to clean the streets
@@goofy5603he was a 🤡
Yes but the organ selling is dark man, imagine the amount of people she has done that to.
@@erickh6587 she can do it to me any day
I wanna add something, Ray Boccino.
To think that everyone thinks he's an a$$hole and not to be trusted and in the end he was one of the more decent ones in the game. He was loyal and a man of his word. In the end Peggorino did him dirty.
I agree with this outlook heavily, in the sense that Ray was pretty much a man of his word and keeps his loyalty to Niko. However, I do find that him getting whacked was probably foreshadowed, because think about it - and Pegorino said it best. Ray went way far ahead of the boss' plan and made moves on his own, when yet the boss (Pegorino) wasn't even ready to meet that stage yet. This whole 'diamond' thing was really coordinated by Pegorino in the first place. But Ray had his eye on the prize and figured that taking further steps ahead of Pegorino's plan would help him in the long run, so he can get the diamonds and call it a win. What Pegorino didn't suspect was Ray having the diamonds all to himself, even he doesn't say that to Niko - all he says to Niko is that Ray messed up the entire diamond ordeal even after having taken so many steps ahead. And because the Pegorino family was being watched by the feds, he only could suspect that Ray had to be the one since he was making moves that were probably for his own good and not the family's (greed, in other words). There's a lot of strange things that Ray did as a member of the family. Since Ray's greed took over, Pegorino saw it as a way of Ray probably trying to capitalize the situation for his own good. And doing that in a mob is dangerous and makes anyone such as Ray to be portrayed as someone who's untrustworthy. The Lost and Damned showed that in a pretty crazy way too.
In all my playthroughs, I couldn't let Roman die in the ending, without even knowing about his mother, now I know I did the right choice. Bro deserves a happy life.
He truthfully does, and it’s always nice to hang out with him too.
As powerful as Roman's Sorrow is, it annoys me how much Roman tries to blame Niko for all his problems. Saying everything was fine until Niko showed up. His computer was smashed and he got beat up because he was in massive debt, was shot in a basement because he wouldn’t stop screaming despite being told to stop, and they were only there because Niko killed Vlad AFTER Roman basically called him disloyal all because he didn't tell Roman about a suspicion that Vlad was sleeping with Mallorie.
You’re so right about that. I also find it annoying that Roman accuses Niko for all his problems. And simply because Roman got Niko wrapped up in his problems, by forcing Niko to practically work with Vlad (in the mission, “Easy Fare”). And this wasn’t even Niko’s choice (lol). Especially with all those loan shark problems he had. But then again, I guess we kind of have to remember, Roman didn’t really ask Niko to kill Vlad, did he? He just confronted Niko for not telling Roman about it, even though Roman was out of his mind and drunk on the alcohol. And this is how Niko unfortunately got himself and Roman wrapped around in the mess with the Russian Mafia. I do imagine that things would’ve gone better if Niko didn’t lose his chill. There’s actually an unused phone call from Mallorie that says she slept with Vlad only to get back at Roman for having affairs with other women (I have a video on December 1st about that lol). So there’s a lot of outlooks on the entire situation. I suppose there’s no right or wrong from Roman’s context, but what he says is definitely contradictory and draws the blame back on him for a few reasons while also sharing it with Niko.
Well Niko did kill Vlad out of impulse and he did get manipulated by Dimitri into killing Faustin. Had Niko not been there/acted by impulse/been manipulated, Vlad and Faustin would've not been killed (at least by Niko). Can't really blame him for killing Faustin but I always thought the Uncle Vlad mission was a little bit out of place, judging that the boiling point was Vlad sleeping with Mallorie. Was Vlad really tho? If so then Mallorie herself is also partially to blame here for even considering Vlad, who's a scumbag goon and drug addict. There were no hints of Faustin betraying Niko anytime, but Dimitri would betray Faustin soon or later regardless of Niko's actions. Hell, he could've even contacted Johnny to kill Faustin had Niko not been there, just like he did contact him to kidnap Roman. At the end, Roman shouldn't have blamed Niko for it all, sure, but Niko did collaborate to part of it. And so did Mallorie and mostly everyone else. I'd say the only one who can't take any blame for anything is Jacob. It's kinda like how Sweet acts in SA, as he's extremelly annoying once he's released from prison and blames the downfall of the families on CJ's moving out and working with Woozie, when in fact it wasn't CJ's fault but Smoke's and Tenpenny's.
@NewRodin oh I'm not saying Niko didn't contribute to any of what went on, but for Roman to say everything was fine until Niko showed up is laughable. If anything Niko turning up probably saved Roman from getting killed by either the Albanians or Russians because no way would he have paid off the debts without Niko working for Vlad or anyone else because he couldn't control his gambling addiction. Yeah as far as San Andreas goes, growing up and playing that makes you realise how immature and selfish Sweet is. Can't stand that CJ wanted more to life than just "the hood."
I pretty much said the same thing, like technically it wasn’t all Niko fault. He just stood up to them mfs who were probably gonna try to fuck them over anyways… like when vlad was screwing his girl and he blamed Niko for that too like no they were assholes and Niko was technically not wrong 🤷🏾♀️
Give Roman a break. His entire life just crumbled in front of his eyes, he's stressed out, so he's trying to vent frustration the only way that is available to him. No one is ideal.
That was sick, great work.
This reminded me how much of a great game GTA IV was. Much better than GTA V in many ways.
You can't replicate the atmosphere, realism and darkness of GTA IV. It's immaculate.
Thank you so much for the kind words! And I think truest words have also been spoken - can't replicate that at all, no way.
Imagine care about realism in video game
GTA IV was sooo ahead of its time its crazy. You could start it up right now and it would still feel like a modern, relatively recent game. I bough a PS3 just to replay the game again. Fantastic storyline and atmosphere.
You’re making me want to do the same, I have my PS3 and my PS3 copy still ❤️
Any issues like audio looping from the radio and muted dialog in cuts scenes?
Will forever be my favorite gta. From the characters to the story to the location… such a great game so many memories as a kid playing this. I heard they might be remastering it after all these years , I hope they actually do it
Gta 4 is boring.
@@element021993 you’re calling a game that came out in 2008 boring…. Okay? Bet you weren’t saying that when it first came out
@@skid126 It was boring back then and is boring now. Gta 4 is the weakest in the series. SA and 5 are the best. 6 will also blow 4 into dust.
@@element021993 gta 6 is gonna blow any game out the water 😂 gta 5 sucked , gta 4 was way better you were probably 8 when it came out
We need to start a petition for remastering GTA IV. Totally agree with you itst the best of all GTA games
I swear Jeff and Eddie low could have had there own psycho missions in this game
Its always the ones that speak of themselves in the third person that are the most strange ones
You seem to have forgotten Malorie's call after the mission Mr. and Mrs. Bellic where she revealed she was pregnant. This made that whole scene of Roman dying even Darker.
I should've included this call, including Kate's and Brucie's - since they even have some sad dialogue in there too. My mistake :)
Fun fact in the beta version all the visuals look really light and creepy because the design with it has a creepy look and it's all lighter still even though the game could be dark I think the weather and the visuals look exactly creepy as the beta version
Wow, that's interesting! I've never tried the BETA visuals before. There is a mod out for it right now.
Absolute beta fanboy schizo post
R u saying that the beta is dark and griddy
The more years go by the more I recognize how R* absolutely outdid themselves with this game..
Always will be my favorite. Niko is a captivating character or antihero I should say, even the fact that they made an European main protagonist was huge for me at the time, its like they went all against the expectations and wanted to deliver something fresh narrative wise, which they absolutely did. I dont mean to bash other GTA titles but compared to them IV is very tasteful and doesnt suffer from identity crisis like SA and V do sometimes. I appreaciate the more minimal and realistic design.
- Though seeing some of its BETA or unused content I have to wonder what this game could look like remastered or if the console hardware limitation wasnt an issue..
Rockstar truly outdid this themselves with GTA IV, without a doubt 👌 They did a great job with Niko Bellic’s character and making him very fitting with the storyline in mind, showing him trying to transition from bad to good, but, as it turns out, he couldn’t escape from the darkness. Thank you for sharing these thoughts ❤️
I replayed the game last year, his speech to Roman - “War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other”. That just hits different now that I’m older.
I first played this game very young (kind of a bad idea, now that I look at it lol).
just mod it yourself. Ultimate textures 2.0 and Icenhancer 3 or 4 on at the same time is a better remaster than Rockstar could make with their current staff.
You know consoles can't do that right.
@@Gwavideoproductions consoles?
The actor who did niko’s character was fantastic. I still say IV is the best gta ever made
I agree with you, my friend.
Yeah...i need to replay this game. Seeing Roman die still makes me tear up. This game deserves more love, R* did something special with this story. Its so so bleak yet completely captivating.
It’s truly an underrated game. I know that’s a bold thing to say, but I’d like to think that’s true. The story is unique, and so is the protagonist along with the characters he meets throughout the storyline. Definitely give this game a shot ❤️
Every stranger you met in IV felt part of the city, grounded in reality with their own issues or problems that Niko stumbled across. Some more light-hearted than others, but realistically told. The next GTA could easily be a trip down "look at me toon town" lane i.e. GTA V, but I hope Rockstar takes a more grounded approach with it.
I hope so, too. Because I do agree with you, GTA IV had really well-developed side characters that had rather more personality and character to them as opposed to the ones from GTA V that were kind of random and didn't make much sense.
The one with the heroin addicted chick in algonquin was super messed up
By the looks of things that won't be the case
Talking about Marnie?
Sadly GTAIV was a product of its time, back when gritty and noir was at its peak, when Nolan's Batman was the gold standard of filmmaking. We'll never get that again, as right now, social media, memes, and internet culture is king and GTAVI will represent that.
Darko is a mirror for Niko. Someone who let revenge ruin him. He sold out the squad becausw Goran and his men killed Darko's friends and neighbors. He had little incentive not to give up the squad's position especially with his H habit also playing into the equation. Niko has the choice to let go.
“Darko is a mirror for Niko” couldn’t have been anymore accurate 👌 Well said.
A lot of people don’t realize Darko is not evil, and Darko was more justified than Niko. Like you said they are mirrors; Darko could not live with his crimes, Niko became apathetic to it.
If you know more about the ethnic cleansing in Bosnia done by Bosnian Serbs against Bosniaks (which Niko and Darko are Bosnian Serbs), how they would kill their own neighbors and family friends and the world they knew was turned to shit, people would sympathize with Darko more. Darko “sold out” his squad because of what they had done.
the ending involving Kate's death is actually the canon ending while the one with Roman's death is non-canon
That's my belief, as well.
@@NotAJhe’s dead not wrong Packie leaves LC at the end of TBOGT it makes sense Gerry Is in prison for a long stretch, Francis got shot and killed, Kate shot and killed (canon), Derrick definitely Odeed him being him, and obviously the matriarch the mother she’s old it was just her time and Packie was the last one left.. that on its own is dark too bro lost his family and home.
I always like to kill Darko but take the deal. Feels right
@@vintage_sole4065Well, at least Gerry is alive. Was it explained how long he'll stay in prison? Not sure if I heard 10 years at some point in my playthrough.
It would be cool if both Gerry and Packie can come back in 6. Packie is unlikely since he already returned, but you know.
I’ve read a Q&A of Rockstar years ago and they said they chose not to make canon / non-canon choices as they want to respect all players choices. They said they would love to bring Roman back for example, but that would contradict some players choices.
My favourite GTA. The dark undertones of the city and story beats make it feel so alive. Cant beat the euphoria physics either. Truly ahead of its time. I never liked the plastic look of GTA 5s character models and downgraded physics. I hope rockstar took notes for GTA 6
Like I told someone else, look how long this took them to make after their previous GTA title - it took them very little time. Yet, it's the game with one of the largest sets of voice actors and actresses involved. Rockstar truly outdid themselves with this title.
@@NotAJ Agreed! Great job on the video. I don't think I knew that detail about Romans mother before. That was especially haunting.
Give the Manhunt saga a try. Carcer city makes Liberty City look like a paradise.
Thank you so much ❤️ I appreciate the kind words!
I have to give that and RDR2 a try! It’s sad I’ve never played it…. :( I am this winter
I completed this game maybe 4 or 5 times and I don't remember a single moment where Niko gets to be happy without something messed up happening afterwards making him feel miserable again. Either way there's no happy ending for him, only more suffering. Thank you rockstar for making this masterpiece it trully made me think at the time i played it about how life can be rigged from the start
Truest words spoken here, my friend - well said 🙏
The darkest moment in this video is at 8:55 when all the NPCs take a sip of their coffee at the same time
LMFAO 😂
I love how in gta the protagonists would willingly go along on sime insanely messed up missions.
like Cj helping catalina rob a place and her ending up killing innocent people because she couldnt kill the guy behind the cash register, Trevor having so much fun torturing a guy, And Nico backhanding the fuck out of a poor girl to snap a pic of her kiddnapped to send to her father. Then always having to comment how fucked up it is after the fact and all the things wrong with it 😂
Like bro you didnt have to do it.
LOL RIGHT? 😂
It's a way to deflect guilt and responsibility for their actions. It's not completely their fault if someone asked them to do it.
Romans mother line just broke me. Makes so much more sense for Niko as person.
It was most definitely heartbreaking 💔 I never even knew about it until recently when I heard it in a conversation between Kate and Niko. This game is truly dark.
GTA 4 is better then gta5
By a bit imo
The man's room tv show is sick
I thought I knew this game inside-and-out until I only discovered how sick and brutal that show was. I only saw it a few days ago. Remember one of the beginning episodes where Bas was getting out of pocket? Oof!
I just finished GTA IV a couple of days ago, and I also heard the Roman’s mother story and I felt so sorry for Niko. Things like this make me think how deep GTA IV is, and wow it was a horrible surprise. Also, Niko’s voice made it a lot worse because you can hear the level of sorrow
You most certainly could feel and hear Niko’s sorrow. It’s so saddening 💔
Honestly, on No.8 Manny is annoying overall
When Elizabeta shot him. I don't feel a sense of guilt on this guy.
I've heard people say this and I can totally see why.
she was coked out worried about police then some guy puts a camera in her face
Manny was annoying but at least part of his heart was in the right place. There’s a performative part of his “cleaning up the streets” where he does not partake in the dirty work (having Niko murder drug dealers in a warehouse). Manny is the clean face to the otherwise dirty work of “cleaning up the streets” and the irony is he dies despite the fact that he’s mostly clean.
@@octm1lmfaooo right, remember when Niko snatched the camera and threw it to the ground and looked at it, shook his damn head and said “sorry” and asked him “now what did you want?” LMFAOOO
Definitely agree on Eddie being the scariest thing in the game by far. He's probably the biggest monster you can pull down next to either Dimitri or Bulgarin.
The other scary thing is the sting/honeypot website the LCPD uses to catch predators. While it has no importance to the story, you have to wonder if online predators were so prevalent in LC that they had to make a sting site.
Eddie is truly one of those characters that Rockstar, I believe, worked really hard on to make him as realistic to a serial killer as possible - and they nailed it. AND THAT'S RIGHT! I can't believe I forgot to make an honorable mention of that. You're talking about the Little Lacey's Surprise Pageant?
@@NotAJ Yup. LLSP (the sting site) is actually a reference to older games (mainly VCS). In those games it was an actual brand for pageants and underwear, with some VERY creepy ads and implications on the radio stations (I think Espantoso was the one). I think it was mentioned again in GTA V since there's a mission where you steal a JB 700 with an actress who was in a LL ad, and in GTA CW since you get an email from an undercover LCPD/FIB agent that mentions the site.
It isn't the only reference to predation in the game, though - there's a baseball player who went out for a date with Jill von Crastenburg (who was 13 at the time) and one of the guys that hosted a show on WCTR in San Andreas got arrested on CSA charges in Bali.
It's spine chilling when you look into it. And Eddie's website doesn't make it any better too.
Im not gonna lie i dont even know what a predator is
Is that the website that says " we know everything"
I don’t know about any of you, but that delivery on “does that make you happy” is the darkest we ever hear Niko himself.
If anything it feels like a hint of his fate after Roman dies. Curiosity in a place where it has no belonging, No ending. Very close to losing himself in a void only monsters like Dimitri know.
I agree, the delivery on "does that make you happy" was the hardest hitting point in the conversation after having been done with the confrontation to Darko.
Eddie is Jeffrey Dahmer I’m assuming?
The resemblance is there but I believe he was based off of another one in real life. Can't remember the name though :(
If Kate dies, the phone call from Packie is really sad. If it’s one of his brothers, he’s kinda like “ah shit that sucks”. Kate is a different story. The sadness in Packie’s voice is heartbreaking
42:22 🤨
I always thought the sad part about Elizabeta was that she grew up with Manny or something, and most of Mallories aquantances were all childhood friends in Bohan the way she talks about them.
That's so true, I think that's why Mallorie suspected the entire reasoning of Manny's death to be because of Elizabeta.
"Whatever gets you off" is one of the worst ways Niko ever said even when the intent is to say "whatever you say, just get out ASAP", since it aggravates the predator side of Eddie even more. Dark humor, though.
Yeah, for real! But I wonder, did Niko probe at him purposely to see if maybe he could affect his psychological triggers?
I've been called crazy for preferring 4 over 5 but as the years are going by I think others are starting to realize
I’ve always and will always say the same exact thing.
@@NotAJyeah same here
Yeah same here
I definitely didn't know the Romans mom bit, sheeesh. Eddie Low is such an interesting character, just how deranged and sick he is makes him one of the most twisted characters in all of GTA, if not the most twisted. Is there enough moments like these in the other GTA games to make more videos like this? Would be a cool series to make, top 10 darkest moments, or even theories.
I didn't know about Roman's mother after all these years until recently. Again, I was just bored and this happened to pop-up, so I was taken by surprise. And yes, Eddie Low is indeed one heck of an interesting guy. And of course, I can try to do that. I'd have to get myself as familiar as I could with the other GTA stories.
Makes sense why GTA IV sticks out from the rest of all the other GTAs. It was not about fame, money and being a king like all the other GTAs, its a real gritty story that honestly makes a great movie just from watching the cutscenes
“It’s a real gritty story that honestly makes a great movie”… exactly 💫 The movie like thing reminded me of Metal Gear Solid and how they also did the same with their stories. This game is something else, man.
@@NotAJ I will say it takes heavy influence from a lot of gangster and crime movies from the 90s, even the soundtrack plays a part. I love how it reflects the unique New York culture of 70s - 00s which is undoubtedly New York's grittiest but most soulful decades
I’ve noticed that as well, like The Sopranos and American Gangster
Manny only wanted the fame, he didn’t care for the streets and it’s implied he’s still on drugs himself. And Niko’s comment at the end is sarcasm, as he knew manny’s true intentions
GTA IV is the peak of when Rockstar knew how to make a realistic game. It felt as if you were in a city somewhere out in the world irl. How long until they can make another GTA like this? Let’s hope they were able to do it with GTA VI
Let’s hope so, my friend! It looks promising!
RDR2 exists... the fuck?
that manny death scene still haunts me because of how unexpected it was. and that subtle gasp from the camera man made it even worse. Man GTAIV's stranger missions were pretty F'd up, looking back at it.
Yeah, literally. Imagine the camera man’s last moments. All he saw was his boss/friend being shot, then all of a sudden saw the tip of a Glock in his face.
I found that part disturbing to especially with what Manny was trying to stop then gets killed from it.
OMG nothing was more dark than Trevor torturing that guy in GTA 5, breaking his knees, pulling out his teeth and then tossing him out at the airport.
Oooof, yeah, that’s dark alright 😥
It's not actually that dark because Trevor actually did a favor to the guy by letting him live and dropping him at the airport so he can gtfo from that place. Otherwise the government people would have disposed of him already
The real story of murat kurnaz is even darker
13:12 british guy did everyone a favour
GTA IV is still by far my favorite GTA story and Niko is still my favorite character. They knew when to use humor and when to get serious, and when the serious moments hit they hit hard.
That’s such a true depiction of Grand Theft Auto IV’s balance of humor and seriousness. I loved this game for that being one of the reasons.
"Calm down before I give you injury" 💀
😂😂😂
Eddie really made look Trevor as a normal guy
Lmao 😂
My favorite game of all time. I’m glad people still show gta 4 some love & this game will live on forever. 🙌🏾
GTA IV is also my favorite game of all time. I'll continue to show the love to this game no matter what :) Thanks for the support!
Grand theft auto 4 is amazing imagine if there was a remastered version for PlayStation 5, and Xbox series x,
Yeah this game was ACTUALLY GOOD and fun story mode wise. Underrated and full of details
4 is boring.
Niko looking apalled when he heard Darko did it for a measly thousand is top notch, the guy who made the face needs a raise
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« well, he said he was gonna bust a dealer » 😂
One of my favorite Niko jokes 😂
LOL gotta love Niko 😂😂😂😂
soon those cringed streamers or pranksters meet their demise like that
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In defense of sparing Darko but going for the Revenge choice at the end: considering how Darko is now a broken down junkie, hes not a threat to anyone anymore, or he wont be within the near future.
Niko aint stupid either, so after seeing how Darko suffers from simply existing, Hed probably think that would be a more suitable punishment for him.
Dimitri however, got contacts *and* soldiers all around the city basically, and, as the psychopath he is, hes already decided to relentlessly ruin Nikos life til N kills himself, or til Dimitri himself is killed (as shown in the Deal ending).
Also, Kate is supposed to be a close and reliable "voice of reason" to Niko at that point, and even She completely opposes that Deal.
Thats just one theory to why i believe Revenge is logically canon... buuut seeing how rockstar love to fuc up their characters i just dont know anymore, lol
That’s an excellent set of points to justify (what I also believe to be) a canonical set of events in the game. I think you’re right.
I spared darko too… I was like he ain’t even worth the damn bullet and even though you spent all that time going from mob to mob lookin for him it was so pointless to kill him
But Dimitri caught allat smoke cause that asshole had me fked up off that Roman kidnap mission… even tho Roman is annoying? He acts like a baby deadass😂
Lmao i love the dialogue with Jeffs cheating wife in the diner. Her date is practically ignoring her and just trying to simp.
Basically 😂 Just ego the problems and just compliment her looks!
See, this is what I miss. GTA 5 was child's play for me, I wasn't as much of a fan
I think the problem with GTA 5 is that it's too easy, nothing is difficult in that game, it's like is made for kids.. even tho the official target audience is mature,
Rockstar only cares about making money, they know where the profit is, and when they realized giving up on DLC's for GTA 5 and only focussing on online will make them great profit they fully gave up on quality and focussed on quantity,
I hope GTA 6 will have a good story I don't care about their online bs
How is gta 5 child's play ?
GTA 4 was a really good game fr especially Nico.
Agreed, for real 💯
Woah he actually commented that’s what we call a good TH-camr
Bro Niki sounds the Gru From despicable Me💀💀💀😭😭😭
I can kind of understand the resemblance now lol
I’ve watched a walkthrough of this game and didn’t realise how dark the themes were. Great video highlighting this. Goes to show the amazing writing involved for the dark moments of the game.
Thank you so much for the kind words, my friend ❤️ Yes, this game truly has some special type of writing to be a story that beats Hollywood.
I felt bad for manny. But he had it coming
He did - he was doing too much with dangerous people, such as Elizabeta.
What Mods Are You Using ?
That would be iCEnhancer 4 and Project RevIVe, my friend! You can get early access, all the details and showcases about that are mentioned here: th-cam.com/video/cpA7HYzR_54/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LDk9bImGqFiHMWbQ
I must've missed Eddie when I played the game but he's a real dark character..... and the way he specifically said boys instead of men made him sound like a creep as well 😖
I know, right? I didn’t think Rockstar’s writing could get this horrifying. It’s better than a cliche thriller film that’s made in Hollywood these days.
@@NotAJ GTA 4 is definitely the best story based GTA of them all though in my opinion
So sorry! I don’t know why your comment wasn’t hearted (?) but yes I agree, it is so good!
@@NotAJ Seeing videos like this makes me realise just how long it's been since I did a full playthrough of GTA 4.... my last time playing it was 2011 🤯 Maybe it's time I changed that 🤔🤔
Top 10 Darkest moments on GTA 4 *Everything*
Basically, right?
Did any ever notice the email from Niko's mother? After reading her emails, I think she lives such a miserable life. Really feel sorry for her.
Yes, I have - they’re so sad. Makes me feel sorry for her. Having to stay back home sucks. If only she was able to come to America.
Quite a serious list, good work AJ!
"Serious list" is truly the right words for this. Thanks, GTAHeavyImpact ❤
They gotta remaster This
I think rockstar was planning to but plans got canceled
For real.
Imo roman dying (while not ideal) is the superior emotional ending that makes the most sense in how you exact your revenge, chasing dimitri in the helicopter to easter island for the final showdown is so much more satisfying when you feel the pain of losing roman, while with Kate it was personal for sure, but it just doesn't carry the same weight as the alternative.
Yeah, I agree - I can see what you're saying about the whole 'emotional imbalance' between the two endings. Good point.
5:20 you forgot to mention when you hit the car and the trunk gets open, Niko gives some funny comments when closing the trunk
Yesss hahahaha like "Haven't I seen you on the TV?"
12:59 "Calm down before I give you injury" 💀
Gotta' love Niko and his sense of setting people straight, for real.
@@NotAJ i got "fuck you! I hurt myself fuck!" Than never saw them, niko is terrible with people.
can i know what mods do you use
I use iCEnhancer 4 with Project RevIVe, currently only early-access :)
13:30 i didn't mean to laugh but he just said. Of course I'll hold and then just drives off.
I thought that moment was funny too, not gonna lie 😂
35:12 Low is laughing because Florida doesnt exist in this universe.
Edit: I stand corrected, I just read that Florida DOES exist in GTA. Weird… this series does get inconsistent sometimes. Also, Florida will be renamed Leonida in GTA VI apparently.
Is that why he was laughing? Lol, I never even knew that. But it makes sense, because Florida in the GTA Universe is the state that Vice City is based off of, which I believe has a different name.
He was laughing cause niko was being sarcastic. Florida is present in gta universe. Gta 6 will take place in florida
@@NotAJ probably 😅 I tried to make a joke. I guess it didn’t land lol.
Also, it’s weird because this game mentions a couple of real life states like California mentioned by the LCHC DJ.
when eddie Low says "im not going anywhere. My friends are though. their Heading off"
which means he unalive his own friends. and dumped them to the ocean. thats disturbing and creepy
Very disturbing, indeed. Kind of sad too at the same time. This is how he grew up - bad parents, bad guardians, bad friends, bad people. And sadly, he looks at his actions as if that's the way a normal human being lives.
0:09 it's not the darkest it's the most grounded and realistic GTA game that there is
True!
That fog mod looks like it came straight out of silent hill
The creator of the mod, icelaglace, truly did an amazing job. He's the one responsible for iCEnhancer all these years.