First of all, let me express my admiration and my thxs for your videos. They definitely provide a huge support for others to want to and to be able to work with TC and to discover the complexity and joy of computer aided modelling. No to my question. I am not sure I am with you on the visually appealing model speed. If you want all of your models to run 60kph then why not set a limit for the track? TC should be able to handle that, correct? Any time you expand your layout you can make these settings on a track/section level and there would be no need to touch the settings for the individual locos. Particularly if you have many models and - if like me - you like to use them on multiple layouts or on modul events, but with the same digital central.
You could program your loc with CV5 and 6 for high speed and limit the speed to 60 with a block speed in TC. There are two drawbacks with that approach. 1. Your locs are controlled by 28 dcc steps, of which you now use only a part. More fluent and precise control is possible if you use all 28 steps. 2. All locs in those blocks run max60. Now that may be what you like or want. I like to set a high block speed and let the locs run at their individual tuned max speed, which means a slow cargo train may run 60 and a faster passenger train my run 90. It looks more varied.
Sure appreciate your videos! I have been working with TC for a short while and have gotten to the engine speed profiling point. I am having issues in TC gold 10 when using occupancy detectors for the advanced fine tuning scope. I have set up three detectors, the locomotive will go to one end and turn around to start its reverse procedure. The issue I am running in to is when it gets to the end of the reverse run, it does not stop and start the next speed step. I have rebuilt this section of track multiple times and checked the ECOS detector by changing inputs. Seems like the software is the issue? I doubt this but am stuck, any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Unfortunately it's quite difficult to tell from a distance what is going wrong with your speed profiling. What I would try is use only two sensors and use them as 'momentary' sensors, even if they are current detection. Just make sure their lengths is similar and measure the distance from the beginning of the first sensor to the beginning of the second.
@@rudyshobbychannel Thanks Rudy, got it working. One thing I am a bit confused about, is the Maximum speed setting. I see you make yours a speed you feel looks prototypical rather than a speed that is true to scale. I'm a bit confused with this. When you adjust block speeds, if the speed is not set within the loco to a prototypical (actual) speed, would it not make other trains set to your preferred actual visual maximum speed all different when passing through a specific block set to say a speed of 30km/hr? I am wanting to better understand this prior to speed profiling all of my locos. Thanks
@@BradFletcher-sg8ft I never use prototypical engine speeds because most of the time they're much too high to look good on an HO layout. Our layout is to scale, but our distances are not. With a prototypical speed of an engine of say 160 km/hr it would look silly and the train reaches the next station in just a few seconds. With CV5 I tune the max engine speeds to a value that looks nice to me. Most of the time this is somewhere between 50 and 80 km/hr. Blocks en route I give a block speed of say 100, such that each loc can run there at its own max speed. Station blocks and dead ends I give a block speed of say 30, 40, 50.Engines brake down to that speed in the previous block and drive into the station with a nice moderate speed.
@@rudyshobbychannelI understand the desire to change to the speed you have set in cv 5, who wants trains running to quickly. My confusion is coming from the set speed in "properties" > "engines and trains" where you set the forward and backward speed. Does that value set effect the accurate speeds that a locomotive will produce. I would think that a accurate prototypical speed of say 60 must be established to allow TC to slow or ramp up to set speeds accurately for different engines? Maybe cv 5 doesn't effect this?
@@BradFletcher-sg8ft That setting should be set at the actual measured top speed of the loc. So, if you have tuned CV5 to a visual pleasing speed, perform a measurement at speed step 28 and the km/hr derived from that measurement is what you fill in there.
Thanks!
First of all, let me express my admiration and my thxs for your videos. They definitely provide a huge support for others to want to and to be able to work with TC and to discover the complexity and joy of computer aided modelling.
No to my question.
I am not sure I am with you on the visually appealing model speed. If you want all of your models to run 60kph then why not set a limit for the track? TC should be able to handle that, correct?
Any time you expand your layout you can make these settings on a track/section level and there would be no need to touch the settings for the individual locos. Particularly if you have many models and - if like me - you like to use them on multiple layouts or on modul events, but with the same digital central.
You could program your loc with CV5 and 6 for high speed and limit the speed to 60 with a block speed in TC. There are two drawbacks with that approach. 1. Your locs are controlled by 28 dcc steps, of which you now use only a part. More fluent and precise control is possible if you use all 28 steps. 2. All locs in those blocks run max60. Now that may be what you like or want. I like to set a high block speed and let the locs run at their individual tuned max speed, which means a slow cargo train may run 60 and a faster passenger train my run 90. It looks more varied.
Hi. Thanks for great videos about TC. Do we need to profile speed, driving the loco only or the whole train? Regards.
Only if the train it pulls is so heavy that it influences the loc speed. 99% of the cases it's fine to just measure the loc.
Sure appreciate your videos! I have been working with TC for a short while and have gotten to the engine speed profiling point. I am having issues in TC gold 10 when using occupancy detectors for the advanced fine tuning scope. I have set up three detectors, the locomotive will go to one end and turn around to start its reverse procedure. The issue I am running in to is when it gets to the end of the reverse run, it does not stop and start the next speed step. I have rebuilt this section of track multiple times and checked the ECOS detector by changing inputs. Seems like the software is the issue? I doubt this but am stuck, any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Unfortunately it's quite difficult to tell from a distance what is going wrong with your speed profiling. What I would try is use only two sensors and use them as 'momentary' sensors, even if they are current detection. Just make sure their lengths is similar and measure the distance from the beginning of the first sensor to the beginning of the second.
@@rudyshobbychannel Thanks Rudy, got it working. One thing I am a bit confused about, is the Maximum speed setting. I see you make yours a speed you feel looks prototypical rather than a speed that is true to scale. I'm a bit confused with this. When you adjust block speeds, if the speed is not set within the loco to a prototypical (actual) speed, would it not make other trains set to your preferred actual visual maximum speed all different when passing through a specific block set to say a speed of 30km/hr? I am wanting to better understand this prior to speed profiling all of my locos. Thanks
@@BradFletcher-sg8ft I never use prototypical engine speeds because most of the time they're much too high to look good on an HO layout. Our layout is to scale, but our distances are not. With a prototypical speed of an engine of say 160 km/hr it would look silly and the train reaches the next station in just a few seconds. With CV5 I tune the max engine speeds to a value that looks nice to me. Most of the time this is somewhere between 50 and 80 km/hr. Blocks en route I give a block speed of say 100, such that each loc can run there at its own max speed. Station blocks and dead ends I give a block speed of say 30, 40, 50.Engines brake down to that speed in the previous block and drive into the station with a nice moderate speed.
@@rudyshobbychannelI understand the desire to change to the speed you have set in cv 5, who wants trains running to quickly. My confusion is coming from the set speed in "properties" > "engines and trains" where you set the forward and backward speed. Does that value set effect the accurate speeds that a locomotive will produce. I would think that a accurate prototypical speed of say 60 must be established to allow TC to slow or ramp up to set speeds accurately for different engines? Maybe cv 5 doesn't effect this?
@@BradFletcher-sg8ft That setting should be set at the actual measured top speed of the loc. So, if you have tuned CV5 to a visual pleasing speed, perform a measurement at speed step 28 and the km/hr derived from that measurement is what you fill in there.
Is this something you must do with every engine? 👹
Danne Machmar If you want TC to be able to brake and stop your engines with high accuracy ... yes.
Not just for stopping accuracy, but more importantly imo, for running multiple engines in a consist or trains with DPUs.