From a career chemist and someone who taught chemistry at UTSA, the easiest recovery of silver from AgCl is to air dry the AgCl, then just mix 1:1 by weight of AgCl and soda ash, put in graphite crucible and melt, you can then pour off beautiful silver metal, easy peasy. No need to reduce the salt or oxide beforehand. Nice presentation.
What are the losses of AgCl during melting, since it's somewhat volatile (like many chlorides)? Certainly this method is easy, but does it provide the some recovery?
@@Tyresio12 no losses, if you heat AgCl under NaOH, basically you are converting the silver chloride to silver oxide which decomposes to silver metal and oxygen at around 300C
Greatly improved the presentation of the video with things in a better organized way. Congratulations and thanks for yet another beautiful demonstration.
Excelente aula! Perfeito! Muito obrigado pelo conhecimento. Para facilitar em vez de laminar poderia fundir e virar direto em um balde com água e uma bandeja dentro, e assim ficaria tudo granulado mas fácil para atacar com ácido!
It’s cool but since the reaction is exothermic it heats up quickly, it should be heated further until all pink precipitate dissolve. Then should be left to cool before filtration.
Hello I think you survived by boiling the gold precipitated by tin and lead with sulfuric acid (?) What should be done if the solution was nickel and solder? Or is there a pre-cleaning method you would recommend to get rid of tin, nickel, solder and lead in the first place? Respects
very good professional Would it not be better to deposition palladium with DMG and then treat it with DMG precipitate with formic acid? The steps were shorter and easier, and would you give the same result?
If I don't find formic acid, can I separate the yellow powder from the dilute hydrochloric acid, then wash it with distilled water, then melt it directly?
If hydrochloric acid is diluted in a solution filtered with ammonia water, is it a different substance from ammonium chloride? Does platinum react with ammonia water-hydrochloric acid?
I finally got some USSR material, flat ICs with legs parallel to the floor and gold caps on top and bottom. I'll have to send you a picture through email I don't have a clue what they yield and selling on eBay can usually yield a bigger payday, or equal to the gold yield
Pretty sure I ran into some of this recently, although I didn't know it existed and instead took it for an Mn salt. Gonna have to do some tests on my waste from that project.
Hey Owl, Great Vid. Your best yet I reckon. Love your new set-up, New lighting, and new camera?? Well done you!! Just a thought but right at the beginning would it not have been easier and a lot quicker to just pour the melted alloys into cold water to make flakes? These dissolve very quickly and easily. Keep up the great work.
Actually a thin sheet dissolves much much quicker than shots and I've learned this from expedience. I don't know why... Shots have much larger surface area...
Put it in a 5000ml beaker on an electric griddle and put some kaowool on the unused surface and on the sides of the beaker. It minimizes waste of electricity because the heat will only go through the beaker, and it will prevent having to re-evaporate what condenses on the walls of the beaker and rolls back down into solution. That’s how I concentrate my waste for subsequent recovery!
halo..ijin bertanya Master... apakah metode ini bisa di coba dalam matrial batuan sufida yg terkontaminasi cenderung lebih banyak unsurr Fe,cu,zn,pb,all,dll... terutama unsur sufidanya...mohon penjelasan Master..Tanks..
Я как-то раз тоже сплавил всё в кучу (там, правда, были только серебро, медь, немного золота и припоя после неудачных очисток). Результат мне не понравился, потом это сложно разделить, у меня получились высокие потери
Can someone recommend me how to leach mineral concentrates that contain elements of the platinum group such as Rh, Pt, Pd, Ir in the metallic state or sulfides or oxides.??
Sir i hv 50kg blue type mlcc and 25+non magnetic mlcc..both removed from old japan NEC telecommunication card..if u hv any idea how much pd recovery from that
Se ven muy interesantes sus videos felicidades se ve que si sabe lo que hace.¿ como separaría plata y bismuto disuletos en ácido nítrico ? Ya que se precipitan igual con la sal o Nacl. Y sigue contaminada la plata.muchas gracias pr su atención.
👍тоже так делаю , укажу на небольшие ошибки после аммиака при добавлении соляной кислоты стакан не надо охлаждать надо немного подогревать ,тогда вываливается полностью.при восстановлении не надо много муравьиной надо немного соды или каплю гидрозин гидрата ,промывать кипятком несколько раз
Напротив,точно надо охлаждать и соблюдать от 0 до 10 градусов Цельсия и пха не ниже 1,5,если нагревать,то часть палладозамина превращается в тетрахлорпалладат аммония,читайте по больше книжек
Great Job ! Beautiful Pd bead !! It's always a great fun to get a nice reward especially when you know the time we spent on "collecting" before... But His-tory and fake money are not in perfect condition those days... Time to keep Faith in Freedom of prices. Whish you the Best for the year !
Be careful of the vapors from melting random electrical parts. A little Beryllium in a bronze spring or relay reed and you will be very sorry and very sick.
From a career chemist and someone who taught chemistry at UTSA, the easiest recovery of silver from AgCl is to air dry the AgCl, then just mix 1:1 by weight of AgCl and soda ash, put in graphite crucible and melt, you can then pour off beautiful silver metal, easy peasy. No need to reduce the salt or oxide beforehand. Nice presentation.
Thanks, usually I melt the silver chloride with caustic soda but wanted to try something different for the video
What are the losses of AgCl during melting, since it's somewhat volatile (like many chlorides)?
Certainly this method is easy, but does it provide the some recovery?
@@Tyresio12 no losses, if you heat AgCl under NaOH, basically you are converting the silver chloride to silver oxide which decomposes to silver metal and oxygen at around 300C
Hmmm. I hope I find this useful one day as I am processing my scrap now.
Excellent method, organized, clean and clear. Excellent. Thank you very much. You are a wonderful teacher
Many tks for transfering your knowledge. The best presentation until now.
Thank you for helping me spreading it!
Great videos! You showed how to separate my favorite metals. Very informative as always. I'm a big fan!
Grazie e complimenti per il riutilizzo del bel barattolo di vetro della "nutella" famosa cioccolata italiana. 😀
Just watched it again! Bloody brilliant!!
Greatly improved the presentation of the video with things in a better organized way.
Congratulations and thanks for yet another beautiful demonstration.
Glad you liked it!
!!
La práctica hizo al maestro
29:40 -haha, the panic in those shaking hands. We've all been there once or twice.
Nice result.
Good job. 👍👍👍
Thank's for the video.
Ah hahaha. You did such a good job on these buttons that I was finally able to see your face in the reflection .😀 very very nice 👌👍👏😀
Lmfao yep
😂
Btw what if those contact points have cadmium present, would it change the reaction or your refining process?
I know for sure that they don’t
@@OwlTech333 thank you for quick response, much appreciated
Best refiner on yt
I was vibing the whole vid. Well done
Thanks!
Excelente aula! Perfeito! Muito obrigado pelo conhecimento.
Para facilitar em vez de laminar poderia fundir e virar direto em um balde com água e uma bandeja dentro, e assim ficaria tudo granulado mas fácil para atacar com ácido!
A long journey, with a prize at the end.
Very nice.
business in Korea. Your video is always helpful during electronic scrap-related TH-cam broadcasts. Thank you.
Glad to hear that
Very Nice 👍 . Glad to see like this result.
Me too!
I m very happy long time back 👍👍👍👍
Quá tuyệt vời.chúc mừng bạn.ra nhiều clip hơn.
Hello! Very good video! What pH should the formic acid be adjusted to?
4
Thank you!
I saw a lot of black pd powder, why was it only 11g?
It is voluminous but not particularly heavy as the gold is
Thank you!
Nice one mate! Amazing Pd result!
Cheers pal!
Emeğine sağlık çok güzel video.Büyük geçmiş olsun tehlikeden kıl payı kurtuldun. ALLAH KORUDU .BAŞARILAR.
Todo un maestro!!
Bonjour qu'elle plaisir de vous revoir superbe vidéo .
Merci pour la traduction 👍
Salut! Merci d'avoir regardé!
Muy especial.tu travajo.
Метод с паладозамином и мур.кислота интересен! Не знал о таком варианте, спасибо за информацию!!!
Это является классическим способом аффинажа.
@@rosenraykov3136 Да это ОНО лизнуло ради лайка))
What will be solution temperature When you adding 20% ammonia ? Is it cool down or hot solution?
It’s cool but since the reaction is exothermic it heats up quickly, it should be heated further until all pink precipitate dissolve. Then should be left to cool before filtration.
@@OwlTech333 many thanks.
Artist at work!!!
Hello
I think you survived by boiling the gold precipitated by tin and lead with sulfuric acid (?)
What should be done if the solution was nickel and solder?
Or is there a pre-cleaning method you would recommend to get rid of tin, nickel, solder and lead in the first place?
Respects
Incredible😃!!....now to sort the dirty button!!
Next time with the other batch
@@OwlTech333 congradulations on the 100%💯⚫☜pure,shiney pd!!
@@tinsoffish1810 Thank you!
Икра черная))
СОВА всегда оригинален ЛАЙК
Flawless Pd button mate. Great refiner
Thanks!
very good professional
Would it not be better to deposition palladium with DMG and then treat it with DMG precipitate with formic acid? The steps were shorter and easier, and would you give the same result?
I wont be able to get it that pure with DMG straight
Excellent video thank you 😊
Thanks for watching!
Te quedó muy bien!!
Gracias
Ну ты могёшь 👍👍👍🤝💪
здраствуйте ув. сова благодарность за видео. от души;)
Спасибо за просмотр!
@@OwlTech333 нет проблем.
@@OwlTech333 хороший результат и обстановка в лаборатории тоже:)
For some reason the nuttella labware is hilarious 😂😂😂
Great video. I love it. Have a nice day. Talk to you later my friend. 🙂🙂🙂😇😇😇👍👍👍❣❣❣❤❤❤
Thank you buddy!
If I don't find formic acid, can I separate the yellow powder from the dilute hydrochloric acid, then wash it with distilled water, then melt it directly?
Hi, would you please explain making of RuCl3 from ruthinium sponge?
Thank you
Epic video 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 👍
Big thanks
Great video! If there was Pt present, where would it have ended up? With the Au or the Pd?
Some with the au and some in the filter paper @19:00
If hydrochloric acid is diluted in a solution filtered with ammonia water, is it a different substance from ammonium chloride?
Does platinum react with ammonia water-hydrochloric acid?
Great one. So the Cooper was lost after Amonia, and HCL was aded, and paladium salt was left in filter, right?
Yup
I finally got some USSR material, flat ICs with legs parallel to the floor and gold caps on top and bottom. I'll have to send you a picture through email I don't have a clue what they yield and selling on eBay can usually yield a bigger payday, or equal to the gold yield
What is the composition of Vokelen's salt? I havent been able to find any information about it. What metal does it contain?
"palladium compound ([Pd(NH3)4PdCl4]) is known as "Vauquelin’s salt"
pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/1932/jr/jr9320001895/unauth
Pretty sure I ran into some of this recently, although I didn't know it existed and instead took it for an Mn salt. Gonna have to do some tests on my waste from that project.
En el minuto 15:58 del video, si agregamos ácido sulfúrico en lugar de ácido sulfámico para precipitar el plomo, ¿funcionará?
TOO complicated process owl. But thanks for fun.
Why after silver take it didn't precipitaded solution with chemical solution.
3times I watching this videos...
Hey Owl, Great Vid. Your best yet I reckon. Love your new set-up, New lighting, and new camera?? Well done you!! Just a thought but right at the beginning would it not have been easier and a lot quicker to just pour the melted alloys into cold water to make flakes? These dissolve very quickly and easily. Keep up the great work.
Actually a thin sheet dissolves much much quicker than shots and I've learned this from expedience. I don't know why... Shots have much larger surface area...
@@OwlTech333 will try this on my next refining. Thanks!
New setup, new lighting, new camera but still no gloves nor eyes protection 👍
It is easier, but it is not quicker and you will have more residuals. Cast and roll is the by the book method and the best bang for the buck.
Nice well done sir
Many many thanks
I had more than 15l solution with containing all those metals;))its more than 2 weeks that im so lazy to filtering ..
Put it in a 5000ml beaker on an electric griddle and put some kaowool on the unused surface and on the sides of the beaker. It minimizes waste of electricity because the heat will only go through the beaker, and it will prevent having to re-evaporate what condenses on the walls of the beaker and rolls back down into solution.
That’s how I concentrate my waste for subsequent recovery!
What kind of gas burner do you use for melting your palladium??
Oxy propane
Nice. I send my precious metals to a refiner. I can't refine where I'm at. I have a small channel where I sort gold and silver.
halo..ijin bertanya Master...
apakah metode ini bisa di coba dalam matrial batuan sufida yg terkontaminasi cenderung lebih banyak unsurr Fe,cu,zn,pb,all,dll...
terutama unsur sufidanya...mohon penjelasan Master..Tanks..
Yo tengo un predio con platino y Au y no se como prosesarlo .
Sağol kardeşim Allah razı olsun senden teşekürler sana
10/10 my teacher
Sir would you please tell me how to recover platinum from the carbon catalyst black powder
Does this process produce mercury during extraction
no
Posso substituir ácido fórmico, por formol?
You got 100% purity on the palladium!?
yes
@@OwlTech333 well done 👍 it's usually hard to not have at least the slightest bit of contamination from other PGMs
Great vid thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
سلام عليكم اخي العزيز يوجد عندي ماء مالكي يوجد فيه هب لا يرسب بسبب الرصاص والقصدير كيف تخلص من الرصاص او القصدير ارجو الرد اخي العزيز
تحبيب
Я как-то раз тоже сплавил всё в кучу (там, правда, были только серебро, медь, немного золота и припоя после неудачных очисток). Результат мне не понравился, потом это сложно разделить, у меня получились высокие потери
What percentage of formic acid do you use?
86
Very very nice
Turkiye den selamlar,başarilar dilerim,100 gram cevher, xrf sonuclari %6 rodium %5 paladium,bunu en verimli hangi proses ile islemeliyiz
lead recovery video ?
Can someone recommend me how to leach mineral concentrates that contain elements of the platinum group such as Rh, Pt, Pd, Ir in the metallic state or sulfides or oxides.??
Like your videos, Except, the background "Music" is Horrid.
Is it too loud?
Pretty coole 👌👍👏😀
Thank you! Cheers!
Sir i hv 50kg blue type mlcc and 25+non magnetic mlcc..both removed from old japan NEC telecommunication card..if u hv any idea how much pd recovery from that
about 0.5kg Pd if they are similar to th-cam.com/video/8MdnhlxKlH0/w-d-xo.html
😀😀 thanks
@@whatwill1812 do you mean resin dipped?
Good job.
Наверное выделить серебро из хлорида было бы проще куском алюминиевой проволоки. Без расхода щелочи и муравьиной кислоты.
Да
Привет удачи и здоровья
Спасибо!
Se ven muy interesantes sus videos felicidades se ve que si sabe lo que hace.¿ como separaría plata y bismuto disuletos en ácido nítrico ? Ya que se precipitan igual con la sal o Nacl. Y sigue contaminada la plata.muchas gracias pr su atención.
What are you putting in the mold to get it to release so easily?
wax
Очень круто👀👍
Спасибо!
@@OwlTech333 это вам спасибо!!!с таким ахуеннным удовольствием посмотрел ваш ролик много ощущений пережитых вспомнил.
vàng .bạc .pd.và tách ra từng kim loại một.
👍тоже так делаю , укажу на небольшие ошибки после аммиака при добавлении соляной кислоты стакан не надо охлаждать надо немного подогревать ,тогда вываливается полностью.при восстановлении не надо много муравьиной надо немного соды или каплю гидрозин гидрата ,промывать кипятком несколько раз
Напротив,точно надо охлаждать и соблюдать от 0 до 10 градусов Цельсия и пха не ниже 1,5,если нагревать,то часть палладозамина превращается в тетрахлорпалладат аммония,читайте по больше книжек
@@rosenraykov3136 книжки книжками а на практике по другому
@@СергейМаксимов-к2у Когда ты получишь пару килограммов палладия,как меня,тогда и будешь советовать.....
@@rosenraykov3136 ты крут не по годам
ДМГ выделяет платину ??
Absolute Kick Ass!
Thank you!
Air nya pakai air apa?.. Trimas
Круто 👍
Спасибо!
А как с фильтрами работали не показали а это было бы познавательно посмотреть.
в следующий раз
Great Job !
Beautiful Pd bead !!
It's always a great fun to get a nice reward especially when you know the time we spent on "collecting" before...
But His-tory and fake money are not in perfect condition those days...
Time to keep Faith in Freedom of prices.
Whish you the Best for the year !
It worth more than gold helping me will help you 😎
Bạn đốt chúng bằng khí Hydro.?.
không, oxy và propan
👌👏👏👏💐🙏🙏🌹
Интересненько. Уже объёмы не такие большие. К сожалению. 🙄
есть количества, много видео тоже
29:27 Money shot
welcome
Be careful of the vapors from melting random electrical parts. A little Beryllium in a bronze spring or relay reed and you will be very sorry and very sick.
Always wear ppe face shield and respirator!
It's obvious
Also have Hume hood or outside
Еще бы русские субтитры было бы вообще супер 🤗
сделал уже
@@OwlTech333 thank you very much, my mother said learn english sonny 😁😁😁
protective gloves will go long way to protect your hands from all those nasty chemicals.
Ну и алхимики.Выкрутились. Следущее видео про филосовский камень, надеюсь?
Это сплав Доре,перерабатывал такой только еще и с платиной.Очень муторное занятие несмотря на кажущуюся простоту.
Так точна
Как платину от палладия отделял?
@@57-4-w1m платины не было, а если бы была, то разделяли бы хлористым аммонием
@@OwlTech333 не всё так просто))))особенно на объёме..
@@OwlTech333 ещё когда в аммиак солянку добавляешь,можно положить в аммиак лед(подготовленный из дистилята)тогда меньше палладия в остатке ...
I have 6 pounds of palladium and no one to help me process?