Why Pokemon HAD to Replace Ash Ketchum with Liko!
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He finally remembered his youtube password
I've made plenty of shorts😅
@@AnimatedGinger I don't care about shorts
But i also don't care about Pokémon anymore
Was just curious about the new protagonist
dont worry, i care about the shorts :)@@AnimatedGinger
@@AnimatedGinger Why's Ash so similar to Tajiri Satoshi? Especially the school part.
@@tlst94 Ash's name is Satoshi in Japanese so I guess you have your answer there.
It's great to know that the fanbase is giving Pokémon Horizons a fair chance but I can respect that some people are not ready to let go of Ash Ketchum as the main protagonist It still kind of hurts for someone like me who was born in the 90s and grew up right alongside the whole franchise.
Ash is emotion of pokemon anime series ❤🙂
Liko is emotion of pokemon horizons ❤🙂
U have to it's hush Reality.
@@tyanajones8399don't need to be mean
My problem with Ash's send off is that is was the worst ending for any beloved character ever.
He didn't take on the battle frontier, didn't get his old companions until he wons the world championship, and they didn't give him the mythicals and legendaries he rightfully deserved.
Hell, they didn't even give us a rematch between Alan and Tobias which would have been heat. The series focused on Go and chlore who were both terrible boring uninteresting chracters.
I would have prefered a ash traveling with old companions using his old pokemon challenging battle frontiers and black or white tower in unova and maybe battle chateau in kalos and at
the end PWC. Masters would have made him a pokemon master and that would have been that instead they were afraid to close the chapter on ash's story properly. I hate that I'm ok with
ash's story ending I wish they would have sent him off properly with a good fairwell.
@@blueskeletonking2701 ash does have a mythical and ultra beast tho
Tbh Liko is a pretty good successor to Ash, She has an actual arc Ash has always been a static character, I mean he really couldn’t be anything else sure he changed his attitude towards battling during the first two seasons but after that since he had to reset at every region he also had to reset his character so after awhile he stopped changing to much (except aloha, that was more of a Flanderizatuon of the ash character then an arc, turning him into a more chill dumb character) But Liko, Liko had more of an arc in 3 episodes than ash has had in 15 years. And Is just a really likable character.
The only reset to his character in Black & White.
When I say reset I mean, Start over again, like in the Hoenn theme song, “take a step and I am on my way, gonna start all over again”. Ash starts again fresh each Show with a new team he earns. It’s very hard to really write a character with that set up after awhile, sure he can win the championship, or the Trainers tournament, but like at the end of the series you know he is off to a new region and he is not taking his Op Pokémon, he is going to catch some weak Pokémon in the next region. It’s just kinda formulaic at this point even though i enjoy it.
Imagine Ash, the literal world champion, going to Paldea and the first thing that happens is him losing to a beginner trainer with a lvl5 Quaxly
lol
hey theres a difference between a quaxly and a snivy
Ginger returned before Ash 🥲
Maybe now you'll understand that horizons is being written like an actual plot story and yes even plot stories have slow down quiet moments
@@Lasherlukesimp
@@Wario1382he Is not a simp, he Is just right
@@antonioislami6379ya he is right in the sense that good storytelling has some quite moments.
But i don't know anyone who is watching pokemon for the plot really.
I think some people would be unhappy with any form of change good or bad.
And you can't really blame them for it.
Like it or not, but you would be lucky to even make half
of your fanbase happy with a dramatic change like this.
That's just a fact or more accurately a theory.
@@Lasherluke It still has some room to improve. They could have 1-up Journeys by representing more of Generation 9.
I really like liko a lot,I relate to her a lot. Im a huge introvert, not saying I don't like being around others, it's just that I don't like being around HUGE groups of people
Ash is main lead of pokemon anime ❤🙂
Liko is main lead of pokemon horizons ❤🙂
Liko is rather relatable. But the thing about relatable characters... Is that they aren't relatable to everyone. Just relatable to a certain group.
@@eglol you think I don't know that,I know she isn't relatable to other people but I relate to her a lot
I'm an introvert too but for some reason I don't really like her . Maybe i should give her some time
@@egloljust wanted to add so was ash, he was relatable but only relatable to a certain group
Introversion simply means you feel energized when you’re alone, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re “anxious” or “shy.”
You can be an extrovert, but also shy.
Most people mistake introversion as shyness, when it’s really feeling more energized alone than with people.
It's the same problem as the games, the anime was made to promote the games, so the way it was done was simple, they didn't think well about the logic or how to conduct the story, and the world evolved very quickly, the technology, the way of scripting stories and so on, so the anime became obsolete over time, and from Unova onwards it became messy, a lot of personality inconsistency, so it was time to innovate, both in game with Legend of Arceus and Violet and Scarlet and the anime with Horizons
The problem however, is that after so much time, you can imagine how good the anime could really have been with Ash and the ending wasn't that satisfying, because Journeys had a huge wasted potential, so many old characters that didn't appear, reunions that didn't happen, old Pokémon that weren't used, so even with Ash's victory, it ended with a feeling of incompleteness, as if something was still missing.
Correction : From Unova Onwards THAT Is where Pokemon Anime ACTUALLY Started to feel like an ACTUAL Anime with XYZ AND SM
I feel like why some can watch an extroverted boy, but not an introverted girl, is because with the introverted character, it feels like nothing is happening.
It doesn't feel like Liko or Roy have grown any as trainers, as they're always being saved by others. (I think we can all agree that Ash could have handled any and all of these situations with relative ease).
While it's always good to have episodes that give a break to the viewer, it's hard to become invested when EVERY episode feels like a break, or feels like nothing important is happening to the protagonists.
Unfortunately, I feel the Pokemon Company doesn't exactly know what to do now that they've replaced their protagonist with someone that doesn't have a Pikachu, so as of right now, they feel they HAVE to let Friede save the day all the time, 'cause only a Pikachu and/or Charizard can be the star!
You make a good point. To me Liko is a breath of fresh air, but I can’t binge it like I would Digimon or Ash’s stories.
I think of Fluttershy’s arcs in MLP. People would get so upset when it seemed like she learned something and then went backwards later on. Truth is she was and wasn’t. There was a line from her in a different episode, “Baby steps everypony, baby steps.” She started being more bold after that, but even then you can’t completely take the shy out of Fluttershy or anyone that is shy.
Our social stigma gets so overwhelmed after a while, that it could take hours, sometimes even days or weeks to feel up to socializing again. Forced socializing is is even worse, because we have to keep hold on our own mental and emotional boundaries, lest we snap, and no one wants that. I’ve worked around large groups of people and served even more than that for years now, so I’m used to it, but I’m also still almost always mentally bankrupt by the end of the day.
Ash is emotion of pokemon anime series ❤🙂
Liko is emotion of pokemon horizons ❤🙂
Ash is the type to just punch a problem. Legit while others think how to solve a problem ash and pickachu just wait for the oportune time to blast it
They should have had a 2nd series adapting Gold (ethan) or Emerald's ( brendan) Journeys.
They are both traditional protagonist.
We would revisit Johto Kanto and Hoenn regions from a different perspective of an "in game protagonist"
Older gen folks wouldn't feel left out and younger gen would get an easy ride learning about Johto Kanto and Hoenn.
You mean getting tricked by Team Rocket on a basis for 2 decades and still not realizing it's them?
I have no problem with the writing and the characters in the new pokemon. My concern about the new series is the lackluster pokemon battle and the sparse pokemon catching.
Most battles don't finish or there is no definitive winner. While in the catching part, most of the important character are already satisfied with their partner pokemon and seems to lack the behavior of wanting to catch more. Lastly, I have no real problem with some wild pokemon living in their flying ship, but it kind of becomes a disservice for them when new generation pokemon are already there making their introduction not as impactful.
Pokemon heavily revolves on those 2 core mechanics, and when those two things are not prominently shown, it becomes obvious and it feels like something is missing or incomplete.
Oh, they can't make a pokemon show, can they?
We'll never have a decent pokemon anime...
The catching and battle thing is easily my biggest problem, like c'mon
@@KardfoguPrevious Pokemon anime had it all especially XY And SM
@@Unstealleon Any anime with Ash is instantly bad tho, his battling skills mimic that of a 4 year old. It's insulting.
@@Kardfogu as I expected you run away
3 years ago I said he’d never leave. Pokémon humbled me and replaced Ash, and honestly I’m glad!
I only want to see Ash all grown up tbh. I love the idea of him settling down and being a happy adult man instead of 10. I am obviously excited for the new series, though.
tbh i wanna see all the og characters grown up/in the future if they’re already grown. especially ash or team rocket
@@sokaizei wanna see him end up with serena. Those 2 were awesome
@@sokaize It’s funny to me how characters like Dora have aged more than Ash within her media, and her character debute is way younger than ash, yet now she’s as of now, she’s a high schooler in her latest released media. Even before that she was still aged up in her other series.
Dora will probaby be an old lady before they make ash an adult 😂.
What if Ash won his first League in Season 1? And if new protagonists replaced him sooner every Season? Starting with Ethan for Season 2's Johto League Arc. And if Pokemon movies had different protagonists not based on game counterparts(like Gou & Koharu in Movie 1 and Liko & Roy in Movie 2)? While all written by Shudo Takeshi(who wanted Ash gone sooner if it weren't for those meddling kids(executives)).
"What if Ash won his first League in Season 1?" He wouldn't have to lose five more 😏
Not sure the anime would’ve been as successful, remember what happened when they tried to replace Brock? the fans weren’t having it, now imagine if they tried that with Ash. Really the earliest you could’ve replaced Ash would be after Johto, even then it would’ve been risky and they would’ve had to keep some familiar faces to make it work.
@@Andrew-Bastin Nope, just replace Ash after Kanto. To follow closely with the games. As Red got replaced by Gold after Gen 1. And Ash was originally meant to be like Red. Now imagine seeing Ash returned as a final boss in Ethan's final episode on Mt. Silver. Who would've won that battle?
@@tlst94 Red is a player self-insert with no personally, Ash is a developed character with established goals and motivations, they’re not comparable. If they had tried to replace Ash that early the anime wouldn’t have been as successful.
Also a slight correction, Ash wasn’t originally going to be replaced after Kanto, the anime was originally going to just end, there was no plan for a standalone Johto series, the success of the initial season spurred the show runners to continue but replacing Ash was never on the table, he and pikachu were the faces of Pokemon.
@@Andrew-BastinWow what a reply🤌🙌💪
I’m not sad because I don’t like Liko, I think she’s great. I’m just sad that Ash is gone :(
Ash is not gone just like us he is maturing and ready for next adventure
Just like when i watch the first episode of ash and movie i was just amere younger than 10 years old now i had family and responsibility to my worker…oh fuck the memory
I find it funny Pokémon was usually in the boys section for toys but literally gen 2 and onwards had professor oaks famous trend of the line “are you a boy or a girl?”, “what do you look like?” and “what was my grandson’s name again?”
i had a stroke reading this
@@AerialApples why
@@IceBlueStarCat I mean there's some inconsistencies with the reality of the franchise - but it's easy enough to understand
@@AerialApples get checked
they gonna get canceled for that in america soon
Bro really returned before GTA 6 came out
When I first watched Horizons, I was actually enthralled with Liko's character. I could immediately tell she was completely different from Ash but in a very interesting way. For example, I pose a question. Has Ash ever really thought to himself. Ash has talked to himself before but I can't think of times where he's been in his own mind. Meanwhile Liko is constantly thinking to herself about a given situation or character. She even narorates. That's such a simple change that really distinguishes them already not to mention how they operate and handle different things. I feel like the best part is that Liko doesn't just feel like Ash's antithesis, she feels like her own character who shares some traits but lacks others.
Obviously Ash isn't the easiest character to follow up on. Not only does his tenier on the franchise span across decades but he also shows off the thing Pokemon is known for about as much as catching, battling better than I think anyone ever will. For a battle, we could always expect Ash to do something that shouldn't make any sense but (most of the time) is super cool. Not only is Horizons not really battle focused, I don't think a character like Liko is going to tell Sprigatito to stick it's tail in the ground and rapidly shake its body like a jack hammer to ensure damage to their opponent on impact. That being said, the fact that Liko is working with what could be seen as a disadvantage and still being enjoyable to me is an admirable feat and from what I've seen of Horizons (15 episodes as of the making of this comment) I haven't ever questioned her protagonist status and have actively enjoyed her. I can't wait to see more of what she's about when I finally get back to watching the series.
I just copy pasted this for my English: write about your fav cartoon character so ty for the big help😅
Where can I watch Pokémon horizon
Ash = Liko
Goh = roy
Ash is emotion of pokemon anime series ❤🙂
Liko is emotion of pokemon horizons ❤🙂
Liko thinking instead of Ash not ever thinking is actually an opposite that I completely missed.
I just thought "Oh, Liko is a main character who, when she thinks, we can hear her thoughts! Finally! Plus she's a bit relatable,"
The worst thing for me was when the series first came out and a lot of guys were saying they would drop the series just because Liko is female. It makes little sense to me because what does being a boy or a girl have to do with being a trainer? The trainers power is based on their pokemon, not their own strength. I feel like the story and the type of character the trainer is would be what matters in Pokemon, not their gender. For a long time these guys made me feel awkward watching this, but I did finally try it, and enjoyed it.
The battles and new mons are more underwhelming than the protagonist. And the the "protagonist team" usually had a good balance. Early on. Reasonable Responsible Brock Cilian and bubbly unsure May Max Misty and Dawn. That kind if chemistry was perfect...
That's how you're not overly reliant on one chracter replacing ash instead you need a whole cast that is better than or atleast equal to tge top "teams"
i mean no one did say that people like are always going to use invisible comments to say obvious things for with low hanging fruit.
No sexist, but in anime a lot of people don’t like female protagonists in action anime or those sort of anime, an ash have been the main character for over 2 decade now. So it a weird change of pace for alot of people. Just imagine if one piece, bleach, dbz, or Naruto MC was a female, alot of people would dislike it. And example is inuyasha, the sequal involved the main characters daughter and had horrible review
@@wwekings9505 That's just not true, you just named the most popular iconic old amines as examples. You replace any OG beloved established character regardless of gender from a popular show or movie it's never going to be better than the original character, people have already connected to them. Yet there are female protagonists in anime that you dint say and if they replace them with a male character people would also not like that as it replaces an established OG. People don't like Boruto for that reason, but sexism only works one way in society apparently. God if Boruto was a girl i can only imagine all the awful feminists spouting BS sexism and playing that sexist card constantly in every comment section like this original one. Ironically spreading into comment section where no one is being sexist like this one. Yet the character would still be disliked exactly the same way bit if girl than everyone's misogynist asshole apparently.
@@wwekings9505 facts
When I think of introverts in Pokemon the first name comes to my mind is Red
Red getting a show would of have crazzzzy fire 🔥
I havent watched the pokemon anime for years but I think you've convinced me to check out the new season
Welcome back! It's been forever. Several months 👍🏿
I feel that both the epic Mickey version of mickey mouse avatar aang and finn the human(middle to late adventure time) are great examples of introvert characters in animation
Now you've got me wanting to replay Epic Mickey! I actually considered mentioning Finn in the video, as he definitely started to show more signs of introversion as the show went on, which was pretty interesting
Aang and finn are not introverts lol
It was really surprising to see how much thought and care went into designing Liko as a character.
The pokemon anime was especially infamous for playing it safe and repeat old habits (at least until Sun and Moon for the most part) so seeing so many different approaches in Horizons pay off so well definitely hooked me much faster than anticipated.
There will surely be a time for cameos and references of the old run but for now I'm just really enjoying this new take on the anime.
Letting Ash go wasn't easy, many people rightfully weren't ready for it yet, but in my opinion it was much needed.
Idk how much time we'll spend with the Horizon cast but, considering the pace of the show, I'm convinced that hopefully they will stick around long enough to become a core aspect of the franchise.
"The pokemon anime was especially infamous for playing it safe and repeat old habits" Since when is driving fans to the brink of a nervous breakdown a safe bet 🤔
lets not forget hes the best in the world to the point they cant do anything wwith him
@@spinotikus1518 she/he means that the conduction of the fights, scenes, and over-all romance/friendship, Isn't far too different then the other pokemon shows, (Except sun & moon) In-fact, we could also call It being repetitive, ashs' age not changing, somehow all of his pokemon disappear other than pikachu and all of his friends' he made on the way disappear the next show, even his love interest, but for Liko, It wasn't the same, we cannot judge right now since the series hasn't ended yet, but for now It's taking an amazing path, changing the story, changing the storyline, but I hope they add a new mythical pokemon, native to the paldea region, since right now there Isn't any new pokemon native to this show (paldea regional show) and they might Introduce It later on, but for now I'm incredibly excited to see the Upcoming updates on the anime and how It progresses.
I would be fine with Liko if she wasn’t constantly talking (well narrating). It feels like the show doesn’t trust the audience to understand what someone is thinking if she’s not always talking. To be fair I’ve only watched a couple episodes so far so maybe it gets better.
Been a while since you posted anything. Good to see you again! A very good video, as usual!
the voice actor has placed ash for decades everyone needs rest.
I feel like Liko WOULD fall for Team Rocket’s disguises though. She barely flinched when a scary guy approached her from behind in an alley
I would disagree, when Spinel was able to hide his plans more sneaky and was able to throw off the RVTs. I feel if she encounters the Rocket Trio, Liko would start questioning and putting thing together that she is being duped. And if Hatenna is involved, they plan is down the drain.
Komi Can't Communicate is my favorite work of art because I see myself in Komi. We both face Social Anxiety and it's beautiful to see her overcome it. Thank you for mentioning it.
A Komi fan! I'm not shy or even have anxiety problems but I also see myself in her, somehow. And I really love her development through the story and the change of the artstyle. Oda is dope at artstyle, also his writing characters personalities is great! Maybe it's not perfect as a story but really enjoyable and cute, I don't want this to finish... but we know that the goal is closer so the ending is soon to come. It's already 4 years that I'm reading this story and I will still do it to the end, I hope Oda will do another story after Komi... he needs more appreciation as an author.
I want Season 3 of Komi Can't Communicate to get announced already.
@@WaterKirby1994 preach
i want ash to continue his journey with his new friends that he might meet along the way. And battle with old and new pokémon friends , i miss the bond between ash and his pokémon together, especially when they battle. I love how ash handle the situation happened especially the pokémon's emotions. He really work hard to be a pokémon master and i want a fair farewell and that's so sad because they can't give us a beautiful goodbye, many mystery's happened and they didn't even give us a full detail.
PLS..send them back 😭😭
WOW I CANT BELIVE THEY ADDED A PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF ME!!!
The problem with Liko is that she doesn't "wanna be the very best like no one ever was"
"wanna be the very best like no one ever was" but you know it's not canon 😏
Personally, I find Ash to be more entertaining. I'm an introvert, maybe even to a fault as the most social interactions I have is when I'm checking out at Walmart. Liko to me is exhausting. All the same stuff she goes through is too relatable. It's like taking work home with you at the end of the day. Liko being an introvert is fine, but when it gets the point that I'm questioning if that is what I'd do in her situation, it becomes mentally tiring. With Ash, I didn't have to worry about that because he wasn't like me, and the situations were purely fantasy. On top of that... Well, introverts aren't that interesting. I should know, like I said I'm one of them. Being a Pokemon Trainer isn't just about bettering Pokemon, but bettering yourself as well. In that regard, Ash failed and he should've been replaced. But if the goal here is for Liko to "better herself" by not being introverted anymore, that's not really a good message. It's like saying "Hey, you're a freak but that's okay, I can fix you". Being introverted or extroverted isn't a disease, and not everyone wants or needs to get out or calm down.
Pokemon, like you said, favors the more extroverted. Trainers need to leave home to start the journey, something a more introverted person is less willing to do. You also need to compete against other people for Badges or Ribbons, and most introverts I know aren't willing to cause or partake in conflicts since we generally like peace and tranquility. And of course, you need to be around other people constantly, be it in a Gym or on a Stage, and that's something we generally like to avoid. Pokemon is all about that kind of stuff. Traveling the region, getting in front of hundreds of people, testing yourself against 1 or more other trainers in battles or fashion or whatever, and of course dealing with troublemakers.
I like her way more than ash to be honest, also Horizons comes as a breath of fresh hair, everyone has different goals and the art and animation is really good, also I love the fact that the real protagonist starts with pikachu and charizard, I missed that big ass lizard for A LONG TIME, we only saw him as fanservice from time to time and if someone had one it was an antagonist or a side character so he wasnt shown much, but now he's part of the main cast again and that's awesome.
L take ash was him he was that guy he just was tuff
Still want ash back
I don’t agree that these new shows have to push female characters in every single show. If they have a female character I want it to fit well with the show not just because it’s social right. Like inside job was extremely good and it had a female protagonist. Or like shows like Rick and Morty the main characters are guys and they are hilarious. So imagine next season making them females going forward ? It Lowkey piss me off cuz the show is about Rick and Morty, ion want to see changes to what brought me into the show. Same goes with inside iob. But horizons is Pokémon but a whole new story I’m not going to watch it because theirs a girl in the series I’m going to watch it because it’s Pokémon and for the new story. Same goes when ash was in the series he lowkey was annoying sometimes but it was still Pokémon. So my critique will be based on how good the show is over all. Shi she can end up to be even better then ash as a character so we’ll have to see.
We can all agree that we all miss ash Ketchum
hell no! Im so happy he's gone! I dropped out of anime years ago, cuz I was tired of him constantly regressing. Also pokemon world is so big and we were stuck with this one character for 25 years? I am so so happy that we can finnaly do something else! I love Liko and Volt Tacklers so much
I don't "miss" Ash Ketchum, I just feel some nostalgia towards him, But I'm definitely glad he's away now, I got too-bored with his character, if he was aging maybe I could've handled it a bit, Literally he stayed the same age of a 10 year old, like at least make him become a teen?, being a kid for about 25 years' Is honestly too much, we didn't say to make let him become an adult, we just at least wanted a teen Ash Ketchum, A more mature version of him at that, and I'm glad we got Liko now, she's more realistic, mature, and understanding of pokemon, and she also Is more considerate of others, Back then, Serena really liked chespin and delphox, but Instead of Ash giving her the chespin, he released it to the wild, even though the chespin clearly loved Serena, and ashs' excuse was "the chespin needs to go to continue his evolution cycle", and Ash was clearly being an idiot, but that was Inconsiderate, since the chespin really loved her, and serena was Ashs' love, at least be considerate towards her?, but anyhow, ash wasn't a bad character, but I'm glad we got a change.
Any Wolverine or batman cartoon is centered around an introverted character
ive just finished watching like 5 episodes of this new pokemon and its surprisingly super good, i was honestly impressed with everything!
He's back!
I gotta say when I first saw Liko in episode 1 i immediately related to her, and that made me so incredibly happy
This video gave me a lot to think about and I fully agree with the statements made. Pokémon needed to evolve.
Ash and Pikachu have been stale and the same for a big while. His companions and rivals were more interesting.
Part of me wishes Liko continues in Gen 10 with Sprigs as her "Johto Bulbasaur". Great work as always, Ginger.
Thanks Kuro!!
Ash is main lead of pokemon anime ❤🙂
Liko is main lead of pokemon horizons ❤🙂
I think there's potential for that happening, honestly. I can't imagine that when Gen 10 comes, they'll do something else with the animé. Liko, Roy, and Dot have a lot of to give and plenty of room for growth, and they don't even have full teams either. I could totally see them going to [insert Gen 10 region here] and exploring it and getting some new Pokémon there. I really hope that's where the animé will go.
@@tokitomuimui Could you stop copy-pasting that into every comment thread?
It's just not the same Without ash and Pikachu
Honestly, Liko is just relatable knowing how she is basically just an introvert trying to make friends.
Liko is a lot luckier as an introvert.
THANK YOU, i think pokemon horizons is very misunderstood, people are focusing too much on the fact that ash is not there anymore, guys, ash has been as the pokemon protagonist for 25 years and we all love him but we should give an opportunity to pokemon horizons and be more open minded.
I just wanted to see Nemona and Ash doing something together
Because they are the same person , they just dont know it yet
Keep it up on your work and this video and channel
I love this video and channel
Thanks you for your video and channel
I love Pokemon All franchise
Ash was special not just because we spent our lives with him but ultimately because he was the first adaptation of RED from the original games, only with a much different personality and goals but he was connected to that very first game that started in Pallet Town, the playable character is one reason why i think a lot of people could see themselves through him
Firstly the original pokemon show was losing interest of fans in japan that watch tv and secondly the writers were really struggling how to further develop Ash character for many generations. The original pokemon anime writer never intended for him to be the main star for this long and even wanted to move to new protagonists with each generation, but unfortunately this vision was declined. This show really does a great job by learning the mistakes of the last one and gave us a cast of really well written characters.
Ps. Eureka Seven fans are really happy with this show.
You know what I noticed? In the past years, protagonist groups have been more mixed, including female characters insteed of pure boys groups. However, in the vast majority of these cases, the male characters are still the leaders of the group. If a girl is the leader, then it's mostly because it is a pure girls group. What I have seen in only very little stories, printed and visual, is a mixed team of protagonists with a female protagonist as it's leader.
Soul Eater has Maka as the group leader although I admit its rare for a main protagonist girl to lead boys. Usually a female leader is just the Boss Lady rather than the main protagonist when groups are that way. Although to be fair 2-4 Boys & 1 Girl has been common for teams for a long time.
You are right, but in recent years things have been changing.
The biggest examples I can think of in cartoons are Gravity Falls, Kimpossible, Legend of Korra, and Miraculous Ladybug.
I don't want to diss male characters for being the lead, since sometimes that's just how their character tends to be. When I think of Teen Titans or the original Avatar The Last Airbender, they have a diverse cast with strong personalities and motivations, and it would be weird if their respective "leaders" weren't Robin and Aang.
I’m the type of person who would miss ash but also give her a chance. And I hope to see him Return some day soon.
I haven't watched the anime. But now that i heard your points on how you see it. I can relate to it. It's not easy to be so outgoing. I'll definitely watch it.
Return of the GINGoat 👀🔥
I think I'm looking forward to having somebody new as our main character in the Pokemon series, but of course I'll still miss Ash. They could show us a different perspective of things like how Liko interacts with Pokemon and how you compare it to Ash.
We still don't know if Ash will make an epic return in Horizons yet my theory is that the Rising Volt Tacklers will be visiting Pallet Town in Kanto so Fried can meet up with his old friend the World Champion Ash Ketchum and then Liko and Roy will be asking Ash to become their teacher so they can become stronger trainers.
It's not that people wouldn't want a female protagonist its how the pokemon company is going about it by replacing ash.
Yeah, if you think Ash is to strong to be the mc in the new series,just make him take the role of the master or brock, so that he can help the new protagonist.
Or even better make him be the goal of the mc, like if in the new horizons Ash was talked about more, like some legend of the field, at least make us know of they are in the same universe.
I really just feel cut of the series, and no longer welcomed
I never thought about it that way.
Guess I finally know what to say when trying to defend Horizons, haha!
A long form ginger video? Wow, 2024 is great already 🫚
I recently watched the first 2 episodes English dub episodes of the new Pokémon series and I have to admit it's ok, but it disappointing the school has been abandoned. If your going to immediately abandoned it why set it up along with a roommate for the protagonist.
Maybe because later we see her doing lessons on her rotomphone, so she didn't really abandoned it... she still follow lessons to know more about the pokemon world.
The school is to keep showing off Anne and her growth because she will be important to the plot later and liko parents when to the school so we could get some flashbacks of that. Another reason is since SM they have been making sure kids go to school maybe it’s a message to kids to stay in school but yeah I would love for the schools to be more important to the plot and not just mostly to show Anne.
Liko and Roy are going to school again soon -- in Paldea, that is, and yes, Nemona will be there, as well as the Elite Four, including Larry. Don't bother with the dub, IMO -- it'll probably be a whole year before the dub actually gets to where the original is at right now. IMO the animé did right to not start off with a school arc right away -- Liko & Sprigatito wouldn't have grown as much as characters if they were at school rather than travelling with Friede & co.
@@GPrinceps yeah but they made liko school important it’s where her parents went and Anne is important as well they keep bringing her back and they are making a correlation between Anne and amethio they keep coming back and disappearing at the same time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Anne joins them at the paldea school because we know the explorers admins are going to be going to the paldea school as well. They will go back to liko school at sometime and it probably holds a important plot piece as well since liko family is from kanto before they moved.
I hope we see ash again, so we can see how he changed over the time.
For the longest time I honestly really wanted Ash and even team rocket gone. It was always the same old shtick for 25 years. I wanted the anime to get a refresh or completely rebooted. Like I wanted them to use the Protagonist from the games such as Red, Ethan, Brandan. and etc. and yes including the female protagonist from the games too. Its like we can't even get the games Male protagonist in anime form except for Pokemon Origins that did include Red.
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Exactly, Sakura from Sakura Card Captors vas an introvert. I think she was the first one from my chilhood. Also the male protagonist, Shaoran Lee was an introvert. The Doll, Gero was the extrovert hehe.
Ash is main lead of pokemon anime ❤🙂
Liko is main lead of pokemon horizons ❤🙂
Great thinking!
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As a friendly but quiet introvert (I consider myself as one) this has got to be one of the best videos I've ever watched! You're so right! I'm finally seeing Pokémon and Nintendo related shirts in the girls sections in clothing stores which never used to happen! I honestly really like Liko as a protagonist and Komi and Bocchi are great characters as well!
When I watched pokemon horizons something just doesn't feel right but when I watch pokemon journey or sun and moon it just fills up the emptiness inside me I grew up with ash so it just doesn't feel right watching pokemon with liko as the protagonist
My guy Nintendo in the Pokémon company, did not get rid of ash, because if you watch the end of Pokémon master journeys, where ash and go part their ways, Ashlyn self stated that my journey is not yet over, because I am not a Pokémon master yet
Ash was the most experienced pokemon trainer and still an idiot
personally the only problem i have with this new series is the name, there is already a pokemon manga that takes place in alola named pokemon horizons, and its one of my favourite pokemon manga series, so now its sad to me that when you say pokemon horizons that manga doesnt even come to peoples mind
I've gave horizon a decent chance to draw me in but the main character has two big of shoes to full and it's not the same without ash when you picture Pokémon the first thing what comes to mind is ash and Pikachu not horizon.
I've only seen the first episode of Pokemon Horizons and I noticed that Liko does a lot of internal monologuing, now does she do this throughout the entire show or do they eventually ease off on that?
This is very insightful. I watched Indigo League and played Pokemon red/blue a long time ago, but never got back into it. I think now that there's a character I can relate to, I might pick up Pokemon again.
Literally none of the Game's Protagonists are Introverts
@@Unstealleon True; I feel like it's uncommon
@@Celeste_mcwhy does it have to a character you can relate to? I dont relate to ash a bit but i still find him far more enjoyable than that boring ass girl. Horizon is a kind of anime that is good only because of the side characters not the protag herself, just hillarious
@@unknown_313 Relating to a character and especially a protagonist, is much more of a special experience.
You might not relate, and think that she's boring, but that's how people think of me, too. I appreciate the representation of being introverted, which is something you clearly don't understand or respect.
You might think that there's a lack of character development, but that's how some people actually behave, and it's represented quite well.
Indigo League still exists, and you could go back and watch it anytime. Not everyone wants to watch a show with a hyperactive protagonist; it can actually be quite overwhelming for some of us.
It really sounds like you need to learn how to respect people who are introverted.
Yes, more Horizons content thank you.
Liko seems pretty interesting I’m excited for the new series as much as I love Ash (and always will) I think it’s time for a new trainer to take the spotlight.
Also I like her personality so far
Ginger can u make a all time team for ash can what champion he would be
Thank you for making this video! Now I am really interested in the anime again (I haven't watched it since the Sun and Moon anime)
I've been watching Pokémon since it started back in 1999. I was 7 years old back then. I dropped off watching the anime in my teens. I've played every game (except the spinoffs). I was sad to see Ash go. But now I get to share this new generation of Pokémon anime with my daughter. So far, Horizons has been the best "reboot" I could ask for. Its so much more interesting than the loop that the old Pokemon liked to repeat over and over.
9:27- 10:12 I’m so happy you brought this up I’m a girl, but I love a lot of video games that have sorta been categorized as for boys by marketing. Now if you excuse me I’m going to go to the boys section at Kohl’s to look at the Pokémon shirts.
I admit that NOT having Ash as the main character has been some what difficult (part of me keeps hoping might get to see Ash travel to the Paldea region and maybe catch a Klawf or something). Though have to say, Liko's shaping up to be an interesting character.
How did you see these things I only have Netflix and it only has 12 episodes. Hope you see this
ngl, I was more unsure of her in the first two episodes, but pretty much after those two, she's been pretty fun to watch
also I like characters that are just nervous wreaks
It's also just neat to see a new character with a new journey/perspective. It's a breath of fresh air. However, there is one challenge with introverted protagonists, and that is that things actually have to happen. It's good to have an introverted character overcome their introverted tendencies, but if a show keeps going on with not much really happening, it seems like the show is just trying t o make a point about how introverted the character is. People want to see action, and more importantly, improvement. If a character, introvert or extrovert, doesn't change much throughout a series, the story just becomes shallow and boring. There is a fine balance that must be struck between the character's initial personality and how that personality changes over time. Too much change and they feel like a completely different character. Too little, and they haven't made any progress. If the show is meant to be empowering, the character must progressively overcome their flaws and weaknesses as time goes on.
to be honest the only reason i’m kinda hesitant to watch it because i’m gonna miss a lot of the orginal characters especially team rocket :’) but i heard it’s not bad so i don’t know tbh.
i have a question how long do you want to stick with liko and roy i don't want to spend another 25 years with the same main character
It fills like the show is for a different audience now... Lico SUCKS as a Leading role... but the others help a little not enough... There are endless adventures for Ash in becoming a Pokemon Master that can still be explored...
I clicked on your video because of YT recommendations after watching a bunch of XY/Z stuff again and videos where people managed to trade and archive gen 1 and gen 2 Pokémons to Home and the current games. Haven't watch the new series yet but I felt entertained from Journeys as they call it in the west.
As for your video, as someone who struggled with his introverted self for a long long time, signed up to forums aimed towards such people to share their thoughts and experiences in a loud and hyperactive society, as well as still having to deal with certain aspects, I did not expect this video to turn out like this.
On top of that, you too addressed gender demographic topics, all stuff quite important in this day of age.
Thumbs up for that video, I probably should check out the new series at some point as well :)
Being extroverted definitely helps being a main character then an introvert especially in the Pokémon universe..
Their Are Alot Of Shows Were The Ladies Are Far More Interesting Than The Lads.
There is a lot of shows where ladies are far more interesting than men
Liko feels like sprigatito's fresh air. A different protagonist instead of an ash clone feels good and not cheap. And she has a story written and planned. You can see she is learning and developing with each chapter.
Is refreshing, specialy as someone introverted starved of representation as myself.
I think part of the reason why media often confuses introverts with people who have social anxiety is because they can often go hand-in-hand, with being an introvert combined with how society treats introverts resulting in anxiety on how one might be perceived just for being an introvert.
Hey i just watch pokemon horizon…all of memories about ash and his adventure pouring to my mind like the first time i saw the first episode when im just a mere 10 years old….istill dont believe ash adventure is finished but like ash we had to move on
Pokémon Confirms Ash's Return... With One Big Caveat - IMDb. Ash and Pikachu will likely return to Pokémon eventually, but when it happens, Ash will still be portrayed as a 10-year-old. Other characters from the original Pokémon series could appear in Pokémon Horizons before Ash returns.
Hey did you know that in terms of killable pokemon jiggly puff is one of the easyiest to kill? With their soft and small bodys it is possible to squish them into sad pink pulp in seconds meaning them and their famillys are not safe around you. Instead of them putting you to sleep temprarily. You put them to sleep permanatly.
ngl me personally i was kinda upset when i found out that ash wouldnt be in pokemon horizons BUT after i watched an episode or three i completely changed my mind, i like horizons too much shes definitely my fave character in the whole pokemon series now
They can atleast bring back an older ash as a side character or sum Shi since he’s technically the strongest trainer alive
Ash lost to Misty 😏
I love this show and it’s good he is getting a break but it’s never going to be the same with ash and his insane personality I will miss him farewell
Can't believe you managed to spend 11:25 minutes avoiding the elephant in the room. Ash has been a 30+ year old, stuck in the body of a 10 year old for two decades. He deserves to finally rest, settle down, and be an adult.
🎶He became the very best like no one ever was🎶 ⬇️
At one point, I could never have imagined replacing Ash. By the time he actually left, I was thrilled. You only be ten for so long before you need to retire the character
Beeing introvert and having social anxiety sure are different things, but at the same time if they different then both could apply to same person.
Moreover, Roy is also a extroverted character, who shares much more character traits with Ash then Liko. But we saw in his debut episode, that he also participates in class via distance presence. And if he can go with that, so can Ash.
Bro 🙄 but pokemon horizons main lead is Liko 🙂 ok not roy that's why it is not matter because now Liko is main lead like Ash 🙂
@@tokitomuimuiIn execution maybe but in the way that they advertise the series and interviews, they are duel protagonists
Honestly, as an introvert, I prefer extroverted main characters. They make me want to always try and be better. I don't want to be interpreted, I want to be inspired.
I agree on that, but there is also one thing. I was an extrovert when I was younger but I turned into an introvert.
True , introverts are not really suited for the role of main characters most of the time. Mcs of most popular shows like big 3, pokemon all have been extroverts for a reason