Fender Stratocaster Electric Guitar Repair - No Sound Output

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  • @justmc62
    @justmc62 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow- Did not see this repair coming... Being a guitartist for 45 years has exposed me to dozens of their electronic repairs... Very few repairs cause me any alarm or concern these days... Love the variety of topics on your channel !

  • @uksuperrascal
    @uksuperrascal ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I worked for Vox Jenning & EMI way back 1969 For a Sub Company Building Vox Amps, Guitar's & Keyboards, I was the Only one who Could Play a guitar And Keyboards, So 1 of my many jobs was to test the Guitars Keyboards and Amps before Shipping.

  • @peterstephen1562
    @peterstephen1562 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The output level from the guitar will be about 200 milli volts so it will be overloading a microphone input heavily as we hear.
    The source impedance is rough 6kohms DC and 30kohms signal so the low input impedacne of a mic input will roll off all the higher frequencies. Input impedance for guitar is around 1 megohm.

  • @marcdurose8683
    @marcdurose8683 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the chances!? I come on TH-cam looking for how to repair the audio jack on a guitar amp and come across a video by my uncle Richard fixing a guitar!
    I hope you and aunty Julie are keeping well. P.S you have a new subscriber, great channel.
    I'm going to get your great niece Lily watching, she is very interested in taking things apart and wants to learn how to fix things. 👍👍
    Loads of love, Marc and family.

  • @vitor900000
    @vitor900000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Since the carbon track was good, another thing you could do is just replace the inner mechanical parts of the original potentiometer by salvaging parts form potentiometer of the same size and similar construction. This is doable because what decides if the potentiometer is A or B is the carbon track.

    • @LearnElectronicsRepair
      @LearnElectronicsRepair  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Strangely enough I was going to do exactly that - and thought it would make a good video - but a customer called in half way through this repair and put a lot of stuff on my workbench, somehow the original carbon track went missing at that point, though I did think it would not fit correctly into the salvaged ones I had so I just bought a new one.

    • @vitor900000
      @vitor900000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LearnElectronicsRepair Cool.
      You could have added this info on the video through. Many don't know that potentiometers can be refurbished.

  • @dizzylilthing
    @dizzylilthing หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been trying to learn guitar, I've got my dad's fender strat from the early 90s or late '80s? I'm not exactly sure, it had a blue leather tie rolled up in one of the compartments. I think the strings might have been changed once, but everything else is new as far as I know. The pickups are a little wonky, they don't make much of a difference when you adjust the tone knobs either. The big issue I'm worried about is the fact that the more I use it, the higher I have to turn the volume knob up in order for the pickups to begin sending sound to the amp. I hope this video is what I need.

  • @ianhuxstep211
    @ianhuxstep211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good repair, I would have looked to see if there was a locating lug on the pot if not used a shake-proof washer and then locking nut as well as the outer nut

  • @bluesplayer59
    @bluesplayer59 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting. That knackered pot isn't normally used in a Strat . Strange but true .

  • @FREEDOM-qb8db
    @FREEDOM-qb8db หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am thinking of buying a used Fender (Squire) Stratocaster but I need to ask a repair question of someone as knowledgeable as yourself.
    The seller says, "the port where you plug in the cable unscrewed and fell loose inside"
    Could you please speculate how big of a repair this is and what's involved?
    Thank You

  • @daz41262010
    @daz41262010 ปีที่แล้ว

    great repair on such a classic guitar :) I hope the guy is stratisfied :)

  • @frankbaron1608
    @frankbaron1608 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you can get an app for your phone that tunes them you just pick up with your phone mic and it will tell you if you're in tune or not

    • @ianhaylock7409
      @ianhaylock7409 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried one of those amps to tune my daughters acoustic guitar. Tighten, not in tune yet, tighten, not in tune yet, tighten, not in tune yet, tighten, SNAP! Oh well time to buy a new string. 🙄

    • @frankbaron1608
      @frankbaron1608 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianhaylock7409 i never had that problem. saying that you can get one on your computer or tablet that just plays the open note. you tune to that then you fifth fret tune the rest.

  • @AlfOfAllTrades
    @AlfOfAllTrades ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If you get more of these through the door, I'd suggest getting a towel or an old t-shirt to put on your bench to protect it. :)

    • @LearnElectronicsRepair
      @LearnElectronicsRepair  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The bench has a soft rubbery mat on it. I did use a soft book to prevent the panel scratching the body of it before I unsoldered it

    • @AlfOfAllTrades
      @AlfOfAllTrades ปีที่แล้ว

      I noticed, and good call :) Still, many guitar owners (let alone players) are finicky and very protective of their instruments.

    • @LearnElectronicsRepair
      @LearnElectronicsRepair  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlfOfAllTrades Point taken. Cheers 🙂

    • @AlfOfAllTrades
      @AlfOfAllTrades ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LearnElectronicsRepair Thanks for posting. I enjoy your videos :)

    • @TheBrynu
      @TheBrynu ปีที่แล้ว

      i use rubber car mats they work a treat

  • @jutukka
    @jutukka ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Originally pickups were installed soldering points on the side of the pickup which is towards bridge. The hump towards the bridge. So only the neck pickup is installed correctly, like original setup. Other two should be turned 180 degrees to match the form of body cavity.

    • @LearnElectronicsRepair
      @LearnElectronicsRepair  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the info - so this one has been tampered with can we say. Would it make any audible difference if I reverse those two, though I accept it's a nice thing and should be put right anyway 😉

    • @jutukka
      @jutukka ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LearnElectronicsRepair It could change balance if the magnet polepieces are not at equal height, "flush".

    • @LearnElectronicsRepair
      @LearnElectronicsRepair  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jutukka Thanks, I will do it before returning the guitar, clearly someone has messed with this guitar before I was asked to look at it.

    • @jutukka
      @jutukka ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LearnElectronicsRepair If you have to solder, or move pickups, be very careful with those very thin and unprotected pickup coil wires near the soldering eyelets.

  • @maks886
    @maks886 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You don't even need a microphone to tune it, there are plenty of free tuner apps for your smartphone

  • @gordonemery6949
    @gordonemery6949 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hendrix lives on 😅

  • @Lightrunner.
    @Lightrunner. ปีที่แล้ว

    Heyyy this is a very intresting repair video.
    i have never seen the inside of a guitar. Very rudimentary.
    I thougt they was more electronics in the guittar😳.
    Thanks for the video.

  • @Dutch_off_grid_homesteading
    @Dutch_off_grid_homesteading ปีที่แล้ว

    Heya nice repair well done

  • @J316-n6s
    @J316-n6s ปีที่แล้ว

    It would really be cool to see you make some of the guitar effect pedals from the schematics online!

  • @frankbaron1608
    @frankbaron1608 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maybe you could have tried a ring washer you mentioned.

  • @frankbaron1608
    @frankbaron1608 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    volume guitar pots are not meant to be that stiff

  • @davet3804
    @davet3804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PS if you repair a valuable strat , most musicians are very specific in using original components to conserve value or perceived value . I have heard some tell me that they won’t even change the original failing caps in case it some how mysteriously affects the soul of the guitar . I’m not joking .!

  • @gloubiboulgazeblob
    @gloubiboulgazeblob ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like there's a missing stopping washer for the volume knob : glue should normally not be used...
    And the stiffness of all knobs should be the same and they should all be easy to spin (like the middle one for the tone)
    The third one looks indeed broken : it should stop at both ends.
    Apparently, none of the tone knobs work, you should clearly hear a difference by spinning them, even if the guitar is not tuned...
    If you want to know everything on electric bass/guitar repair/maintenance look for the "Dave's World of Fun Stuff" TH-cam channel, funny canadian guy, I learned a LOT watching his videos...

  • @FemboyEngineer
    @FemboyEngineer ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you a electronic technician or engineer?

  • @marysisken2889
    @marysisken2889 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I read some other comments about the pots and I suppose you might have got an idea if you looked at the value of the other tone pot. There are a few ways of wiring pots together so that is not set in stone. I imagine the owner of that instrument is an armchair guitarist, in which case they only get to hear high and low tones through normal use. To benefit fully, you would only adjust it minimally at high decibels like playing in an auditorium to the crowds. Some guitar pedals fully rely on tone control and even as a home guitarist the difference, is only slightly heard and not even worth talking about. High end guitars may have pots balanced from new but usually, it's post sales and set up by Luthiers.

    • @LearnElectronicsRepair
      @LearnElectronicsRepair  ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually he plays in local restaurants and bars to tourists, how borrowed another guitar while I fixed this one. Probably this is not a critical application

  • @Ghost572
    @Ghost572 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did not know that logarithmic potentiometers exist until today. 👍

  • @RobSinner
    @RobSinner ปีที่แล้ว

    I spent 3 days already trying to wire my Strat and I can't make it work. I tried classic wiring, did everything properly apparently and it doesn't work. No matter how many videos I watch, no matter how many diagrams I check and follow correctly, no matter how many times I 'fix' it or how careful I'm with it, it just WON'T SOUND, only once worked pulling hard the 5 way blade as I played, but as I released it, lost sound again. I'm afraid I need to buy all electronics again, I had to open new holes in the body of the guitar to fit the new pots, spent +100€ in parts, and can't make it sound!!!!!!!!!!
    And there's no one around who can help me, only people who would charge me to do it, but I want to learn!

  • @uquarosh
    @uquarosh ปีที่แล้ว

    Something different. A well approached repair. Doing what you do best. Fixing electronic things. Thank you.

  • @theoloutlaw
    @theoloutlaw ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang ! Leo Fender would be terribly disappointed to see his wonderful instruments brought down to rubbish components. You did well to get this going, but honestly, those Pots are junk, and will probably fail in the future. I don't know if putting glue on the volume pot is going to be a good long term fix, the volume knob is regularly and constantly used even during a song, depending on the player of course and how heavy handed he is. You can buy 'drop in' quality pot/switch units premade, which if this guy is serious about his guitars, should look into as an upgrade. They come with some neat 'cloth style' vintage wire hookup. Those tone pots too, also still don't sound right, something is still wrong somewhere. As a hobbyist and a 20 year guitar player, it was nice seeing a video about something I knew something about, and you for once, did not. Ahaha! Thanks Richard for the variety!
    Rick

  • @VLC8792
    @VLC8792 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe the springs are for a reverb circuit.

    • @Seeker85420
      @Seeker85420 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol....yeah, that's it!

    • @jeremylaidman6525
      @jeremylaidman6525 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, they are for rebounding the whammy mechanism in the bridge when the whammy bar is used (for vibrato and other pitch bending techniques). On this guitar, he whammy bar itself has been removed from the bridge (not uncommon, because using the whammy bar tends to make the strings go out of tune faster)

    • @jeremylaidman6525
      @jeremylaidman6525 ปีที่แล้ว

      @MrTGuru sweet!

    • @ledoynier3694
      @ledoynier3694 ปีที่แล้ว

      that was pretty funny ^^
      but good guess, good guess. spring reverbs just have a LOT longer and looser springs and are usually IN the amplifier, not somewhere you bang and shake while playing. that would only make a recreation of the heaviest thunderstorm you ever heard.

  • @orphanpixels
    @orphanpixels ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounded like the Volume pot was still cutting out.

    • @LearnElectronicsRepair
      @LearnElectronicsRepair  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think that was my audio compressor cutting the audio, it does that sometimes I notice the volume bar goes to full for a second but the audio cuts out 😉

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA ปีที่แล้ว

    Those pots have a lug that engages with a hole in the chassis. If no hole drill one to engage the pin, which will stop it rotating. Then use a drop of glue on the nut after it is tight. Will keep them there forever, though with soldering to the body be careful, as you can easily melt the inner wiper mechanism, as it is made from injection moulded plastic, and sits under the cover.

  • @lrdisco2005
    @lrdisco2005 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope you released the tension on wires slowly, I was told you risk the neck warping.

  • @lucaskiai2159
    @lucaskiai2159 ปีที่แล้ว

    It a good quality and fairly easy to fix

  • @antitheist2000
    @antitheist2000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nope no way in through the back 😐

  • @davet3804
    @davet3804 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see you tune it with your oscilloscope 😁

  • @Yreq
    @Yreq ปีที่แล้ว

    Time for new channel: Learn guitar play:D

  • @maks886
    @maks886 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an electronics enthusiast, as well as a bass guitar player, it always hurts me to see how ugly the wiring is, even on very expensive instruments. Like there is 0 progress from when the first electric guitars were gaining popularity in the 1950 or something like that

    • @marysisken2889
      @marysisken2889 ปีที่แล้ว

      I noticed that on my Gibson. The wiring is atrocious.

    • @Nebbia_affaraccimiei
      @Nebbia_affaraccimiei ปีที่แล้ว

      pretty sure thats either a fake china copy fender or the cheapest of the cheapest

    • @ledoynier3694
      @ledoynier3694 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nebbia_affaraccimiei that tiny ass tone pot looks super weird. I have a mexican strat, now heavily modded, but the 3 original pots were identical, and those pickups look strange too. The selector switch look like what you'd find in an ibanez, or other asian guitars too.
      Not that it matters much anyway, the strat is an atrocious guitar when it comes to hardware, from the drawing board ^^

  • @bertieblob3387
    @bertieblob3387 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’ll find a guitar tuna on your phones App Store

  • @ralphj4012
    @ralphj4012 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good repair. I was surprised to see cheap tinfoil screening / earthing and relatively poor- quality pots (I wondered whether this guitar was genuine) which should have all been replaced and fitted with star washers in my opinion. Guitars take a lot of punishment, though that one hadn't until it went to the fixers, ho, ho.

  • @DougHinVA
    @DougHinVA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    he is wasting too much time and should show viewers just what to check and in that order...

  • @TonyLing
    @TonyLing ปีที่แล้ว

    10:55 E E E D

  • @BigBoss-rh7zq
    @BigBoss-rh7zq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hot glue is not good for that situation. You must use two components epoxy at least.

    • @LearnElectronicsRepair
      @LearnElectronicsRepair  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it comes back again I will do that - or fit a pot with a wider shaft as I did with the tone pot

    • @jeremylaidman6525
      @jeremylaidman6525 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Epoxy glue would make things difficult for the poor repairer tasked with replacing the pot with it eventually fails

    • @peterstephen1562
      @peterstephen1562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A star washer is the required item.Any sort of glue is daft and a nuisance for subsequent repair.

    • @jeremylaidman7774
      @jeremylaidman7774 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterstephen1562 agreed.
      Alternatively, make a notch and use a panel mount pot (which has a keying knob that fits into the notch and stops the pot from rotating). It's probably not an option to go cutting into the pickguard on a customer's guitar.

  • @CXensation
    @CXensation ปีที่แล้ว

    Quite a simple circuit inside and not a good quality wiring with dangling wires.
    You'll need a tuning fork 440Hz - or any means of a phone app.
    By far most musicians have a tuning fork.
    I still have mine laying around somewhere and a very dusty acoustic guitar hanging on the wall.
    Been at least 35years since I touched it last time.
    Got a family, a house, a garden, cars, electronics etc to consume my time, and now my arthritis has stopped it forever.

    • @boblambert8985
      @boblambert8985 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simply not true. Most musicians have a dedicated tuner, or use an app on their smartphone. The wiring quality is the same as every other electric guitar apart from custom built ones.

  • @Clancydaenlightened
    @Clancydaenlightened ปีที่แล้ว

    if its an electric guitar and it doesnt have sound output, sounds like bad pickup coils, or preamp if it has one builtin

  • @frankbaron1608
    @frankbaron1608 ปีที่แล้ว

    it has to be close to in tune tfor the tone to work :)

    • @LearnElectronicsRepair
      @LearnElectronicsRepair  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I thought that may be the case

    • @boblambert8985
      @boblambert8985 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's totally false! You can use any tuning you like, the tone and volume controls still work perfectly.

    • @frankbaron1608
      @frankbaron1608 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boblambert8985 the tune is a filter. all filters have sweet spots where they are resonant. you move off that sweer spot their effectiveness degrades.. when the guitar was as far off tune as that one was, the tone filters would not have much effect.

    • @boblambert8985
      @boblambert8985 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frankbaron1608 It is, but it's nowhere near as narrow a filter as you are implying. Unfretted low E is 82 Hz, 12th fret on high E is 659 Hz, 4 octaves higher, and the tone control has a noticeable effect across this entire range. The tone control is basically a low pass filter, not a notch filter, and it has most of its effect in the range 200-1000 Hz. For a 500k pot set at 0.25% (i.e. turned to 10) the filter reduces 1kHz tones to 35% of their unfiltered value. This covers the first 3 1/2 harmonics of low E, and if it's tuned lower than 82Hz e.g. 60 Hz it covers the first four harmonics. In other words, you'd have to have the guitar tuned impossibly low for the fundamental frequency to dominate to the point where the tone controls have no observable effect across the six strings. TL:DR? The tone controls aren't wired properly, or the potentiometers or capacitors are faulty.

    • @frankbaron1608
      @frankbaron1608 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boblambert8985 but that guitar's tune was way, way off. the tune on the guutar would have to hto have a limited tolerence to be any good. saying that it might also be that the tone pot was knackered

  • @saltyscorpion2151
    @saltyscorpion2151 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm not intending this comment to be negative, so please take this as constructive criticism. Before you attempt to repair another guitar, I would do some research. There is so much information available on the internet on how to do this correctly. The electronics are basic, but specs and methods are critical. This is a musical instrument and process you use to disassemble, work on, and reassemble it, is as important as fixing the electronics. This video was pure cringe to watch.

    • @maks886
      @maks886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro, this is pure audophile nonsense. This is a tool just as any other, and I'm saying this as a musician myslef. True, there should be something soft under the guitar to avoid scratching the paintjob, but the rest? The methods are critical? Like what, methods of undoing the screws? lol

    • @tonypacke6954
      @tonypacke6954 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@maks886 I agree, it was a cheap Mexican Strat worth about £60, it's not as if he was taking apart an American Fender Stratocaster Custom, worth around £3000. I also own a Mexican Strat, you get what you pay for.

    • @saltyscorpion2151
      @saltyscorpion2151 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@maks886 Bro, if you don't take care of your tools they fail. This has nothing to do with audiophile nonsense. Putting in a pot of the wrong value changes the tone period. Different values change the waveform. That is basic electronics. Not to mention pots that just spin around with no stop. That means the wiper is probably broken or loose. These guitars are so popular that the correct parts are readily available. There is no reason to do a dodgy job except knowledge. Would you want your guitar repaired like this? I say this as a player and tech myself.

    • @maks886
      @maks886 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@saltyscorpion2151 500k vs 470k is not going to make much difference, you should know this if you are a tech. Of course the wiper was broken and spinning loosely at the start, that is why it got repleaced, did you even watch the video? Also, spare parts may be readily availiable where you or I live, but the creator of this channel lives in the Canary islands and getting some things is difficult there, which is a reoccuring theme on his videos. Any more things that you find dodgy?

    • @Sydney268
      @Sydney268 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@saltyscorpion2151 The original pot was the cheapest pot they could possibly find, the tolerance was almost certainly +-10%, probably 20% so could have been at least anywhere from 450-550k and probably was 470k in the 1st place, since they are cheaper than 500k pots - what are you even talking about?

  • @alanrichardson1672
    @alanrichardson1672 ปีที่แล้ว

    First