curiosity teardown: cellphone booster

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
  • These cell booster things have been a thorn in my side for much of my career.
    Today, I'm tearing one apart to see what's inside it.
    And ranting about them possibly a bit too much...
    Here's the datasheet for the big chip inside.
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  • @steamboatmodel
    @steamboatmodel หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I never messed around with cell phone boosters, but did get into some trouble with CB radios back in the 70s. I was as we said in them days "Wearing a 50 Gallon had with big boots" by boosting my CB system so I could talk with my Cousens in Texas. The day they caught me I was talking with someone in Iver win football station on a normal CB and the talking with my Cousens describing the game and not being too complementary too the home team. My Broadcast was interfering with the local tv station.

  • @3ATIVE
    @3ATIVE หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a job assembling a microwave components (RADAR, not ovens) - RF circuits and guides confuse the hell out of me.

    • @pileofstuff
      @pileofstuff  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, the higher the frequency, the more it seems to leave the realm of science and moves toward wizardry.

  • @AnotherMaker
    @AnotherMaker หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You don't sound upset at all :) If I didn't RTFM I can imagine causing all sorts of problems with one of those. That attenuation wouldn't be totally obvious to my novice brain. Thanks for sharing.

  • @loveminis31
    @loveminis31 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Years ago we had a huge one set up at place I worked at. Then people had problems with anything with a signal. Turns out some supervisor with no training install during after hours. I had so much fun taking a fork lift and ripping it off its perch. Owner wanted to fire me but found out it also was just outdated. Yeah those things are the worst.

  • @albanana683
    @albanana683 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Once you've ditched the PCB, it looks like you have a nice, shielded project box, a 12v PSU, and a bunch of RF cable with connectors. Not a bad haul for just $5.

    • @pileofstuff
      @pileofstuff  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely. I always keep any potentially useful parts from these teardown videos.

  • @DirtyPlumbus
    @DirtyPlumbus หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been running cell boosters for years. If you know what you're doing, they work great. Brought me from 1 bar outside (0 inside) to full service in most of my property.

    • @pileofstuff
      @pileofstuff  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's great that you know what you're doing.
      Far too many people don't.

    • @DirtyPlumbus
      @DirtyPlumbus หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pileofstuff yeah, I'd imagine the average user doesn't even understand that there are different frequencies. They just see the booster online and buy one.

  • @bloodyl_uk
    @bloodyl_uk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I once bought a phone booster, plugged it in only find every samsung device in the house went missing.

  • @vjay4297
    @vjay4297 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you make a video on how to install it properly.

    • @pileofstuff
      @pileofstuff  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't have the materials needed available.
      The description I gave at the end of the video covers the basics.

  • @edgarcornette6387
    @edgarcornette6387 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    here is a nice 2 digit surface mount database incase you dont have it . smd(period)yooneed(period)one

    • @pileofstuff
      @pileofstuff  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, that is a great resource.
      smd.yooneed.one/, for everyone else's convenience.

  • @tigrafrog
    @tigrafrog หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Burn several holes in PCB with laser engraver, pin PCB it to the wall, make a tag "Moby Dick" below.

  • @jimcompton4587
    @jimcompton4587 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I once had one of these type of boosters wipe out service on a major highway here in Chicago. It was installed in a building and light up the electric power tower causing a huge hole in the network. Worked with electric utility and thr FCC to chase this down. Took weeks to resolve.

  • @paulov9626
    @paulov9626 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oooooh so basically a cellphone jammer in a box..... 😉 So, take output thru a directional coupler, main feed (-0.5dB) goes to antenna, side feed (-15dB) goes back to input, should get an interesting result.

  • @tjlingram
    @tjlingram หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have one out in the countryside. Let me tell you as a end user, these companies could do far more to teach you how to tell if you have attenuation. All you have to list you have one with the fcc.

  • @markfergerson2145
    @markfergerson2145 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Couple years ago a friend living in rural Arizona asked me about getting one to mitigate the weak signal he had. I’m three states away so the best I could do was to give him the same advice you gave about antenna placement and orientation. He doesn’t have technical aptitude in any way so I had to go over some things multiple times, use analogies and like that.
    He decided it would be too much trouble and decided not to try to use his phone until he got into town. Good choice imo.
    I think that RF transistor is part of an active mixer/attenuator. Bidirectional amplifiers have to have some way to damp positive internal feedback to prevent that howl. Low power, low bandwidth amps can get away with passive networks but not that thing.

  • @jaybrooks1098
    @jaybrooks1098 หลายเดือนก่อน

    use these all the time in data rooms for cradle point type devices.

  • @timmyB147
    @timmyB147 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now I know why you are asked to register the device. That would make locating them a little bit easier. The booster we had didn't come with installation directions that talked about antenna separation.

  • @Mark-w6k
    @Mark-w6k หลายเดือนก่อน

    Be nice if we could see what you are looking at lol!!

  • @frankowalker4662
    @frankowalker4662 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've never heard of these, or had the need for one if I had. I've always had good reception here.

  • @eidodk
    @eidodk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cell boosters are illegal in my country.

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust9093 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have this thing. It is a 25 watt booster for cb's, a blue heatsink with 2 of some kind of rf jacks.
    Can I just add that to one of these to a cell one? Boost the booster, or would you need two? Not my roundhouse. Pretty tired of one bar. Would just use 120 adapter. Verizon one is 150 new or something.

    • @pileofstuff
      @pileofstuff  หลายเดือนก่อน

      If the one you have is actually for CB, the frequency would be wrong for cellular.

  • @NThomas-xj7bj
    @NThomas-xj7bj หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for an interesting video. :)
    Have you ever looked at harmonics from one of these devices? Do they affect digital TV terrestrial signals?

    • @pileofstuff
      @pileofstuff  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The shouldn't. The internal filters should limit them to the cellular bands.

  • @kyleallred984
    @kyleallred984 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've recently joined the solar industry and our installs are often out of cellular range.
    I want to get one of these for our work truck, which basically a directional uplink and maybe omnidirectional for the down link since us guys are a bit like ants when installing.
    Any advice/ recommendation?

    • @elvinhaak
      @elvinhaak หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just get one internet-station that has a directional antenna for the cell-network. And WIFI for your workers so you can turn the cellphones to internet/wifi only . Relatively simple and cheap to use and setup.
      When arriving at an address, set the directional antenne for the cell to go in the right direction for the nearest celltower and your phones will all use that network.
      If you are really out-of-range for the cell-signal, you can add satelite-internet to the same hub and use the same system.
      As he explains in the video, don't fuss with trying to amplify cell-signals.

    • @pileofstuff
      @pileofstuff  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      WIFI calling on cellphones is an excellent way to get around weak spots in the network as well as indoor areas that the signal can't get into.

  • @lasersbee
    @lasersbee หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been using a Cell Phone Booster for the past 15 years. My shop is clad with steel walls and a steel roof. I have full Bars on my phone in my Shielded shop. My booster cost about $100 more than the Receipt you showed.

    • @pileofstuff
      @pileofstuff  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your situation is a good application for this type of booster. The building is effectively a faraday cage that completely isolates the outdoor antenna from the indoor RF environment.