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- Attack on Titan Reaction - Shingeki 4x28 Reaction "The Dawn of Humanity"
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Can't wait to watch AOT with you next year! Has been quite the ride.
Any plans on bringing back FMAB or Death Note any time soon?
@@htbab8924 Now that AoT's on break, he's finishing his Death Note reactions and then hopping back on to FMAB.
Any plans for Peaky Blinders soon? I know it's on your to-watch list
Really having a blast with your reaction, see u for AoT 2023
The only normal(non-business) talk the Jaeger brothers ever had was about Mikasa and man what a treat it was to see them share a normal conversation and Zeke being the big brother he wanted to be, advising his little brother on this woman's feelings towards him. Gotta love Eren-Zeke dynamic
You honestly have to feel so bad for Zeke; he really was trying to do his best and he just kept getting screwed over-especially by his family.
Seeing Eren stab his eye, and mutilate himself, I remembered King Fritz saying "Slaves have no need for 2 eyes".
god this series still blows me away
Great observation. Made even better by the fact that Eren is the one doing it to himself. Perfectly embodies that he’s a slave to his own nature, to himself.
It is not related, u dumb weird people.
Eren did that so thay he can enter the liberio medication center thing. And also not interrogated even further or even enlisted again. Because he made it to be that.. he lost his leg.
@@DBT1007 lol you just take everything at face value eh. Yes, functionally you are right that is why Eren did it. We're talking about what Isayama is trying to say with that scence and how it's relevant with other symbolism / visual imagery used in the story. Both interpretations work together!
@@DBT1007 'dumb weird people'
For what? Considering the possibility that Isayama might've intentionally made that link between Fritz's line and Eren's actions? Nobody claimed Eren was doing it because of King Fritz - that would be dumb and weird.
So glad that you mentioned the Zeke/Eren scene. I felt so sorry and yet 1% happy for Zeke. He had a moment of real brotherhood with Eren. This made his reaction in the path after realizing that Eren deceived him more sad.
Zeke is a tragic character, imo. He lost his family in order to literally survive and when he foud his only real family.. his little brother doesn't care about him at all. And Zeke was doing this all in the name of their brotherhood ('leave the rest to your big brother"). It's just sad. Zeke also deserves more moments like this. They had some real brother to brother conversation at least once..
@@Daesma999 So true dude. And not to mention his motivations..his euthanasia plan while flawed was still great.
Great analysis of Eren’s character. Watching AOT is watching a child, adolescent and young adult go through the most harrowing self-harm and suffering. From the self bite to transform to “save humanity” to the mutilation on the battlefield seen in this episode. I want him to find some peace.
Yeah, we need to see it from a birds eye view to see different sides of war and how selfishness and hatred and lack of communication and lack of negotiation.
I think we can go towards erwins question to eren in s1 epi 15.
"What do you think the enemy is?"
It's as if the enemy aren't titans or outside world or any particular entity, it's just us. We are the enemy of ourselves.
The paradisians especially jeagerist act more or less in a similar way the marleyans act towards eldians. And marleyans act like that because eldians from past acted like that against the marleyans and world in general for 1900 years.
Everyone has selfishness and the need to survive, everyone has to make the choices and the part of what the show is trying to tell is that can we move forward and fulfill our desires while also acting within the system that is established?
For example we might say that a system like democracy has a lot of flaws, but it's a big improvement and much better than the government systems that exist in AoT world.
The goal should be improvement, perfection won't exist but if we the living focus on working for creating better systems and improved systems only then we can create more stability.
Since the world is chaotic, there will be again fall and thus cruelty but again we need to see as humans where we went wrong and then again start, but this time we make up for the mistakes of past and not repeat it.
Survival is important but how you survive is even more important. Morals, systems and values will fall but it is duty of the humans to again bring them back and fight for those. Only such time tested morals systems and values help to create long term stability.
Some people even die but won't participate in the cruelty of killing innocent people. It's a choice they made.
Some people make a choice to kill innocents for their own survival.
But the thing with the latter is that then this becomes a precedent and other people follow it and thus killing innocent to avoid future conflict becomes a norm and thus cruelty increases.
The point is that, our desires and our emotions and our fears are natural but only if they are the deciding factor for any choice then it isn't really freedom because they change from time to time and thus there exists no moral or practical frame through which we can make decisions.
There exists no standards that decide how we make choices.
In our real world we have a lot of international organizations and codes that tell us what is a war crime and what isn't and many other things.
The implementation isn't as strong as we expect it to be but it's much better than just not having any such system.
The goal is to improve and include every world nation in this exercise so that everyone is kept accountable as well.
What do you think?
The tragedy of this episode is that everything has been set in stone from start and thus whatever future he saw in medal ceremony happened because mikasas answer was also destined to be family. Eren only asked this question to mikasa because he knew that he was becoming the same monster that he and mikasa used to despise. He only asked this question because he was self loathing for the future he saw and wondered why would mikasa care about a piece of shit like him?
Is it just because she was saved by eren? Like he was saved by historia and thus it is just gratitude and friendship.
Or is it more close as if they are family?
For mikasa, it was gratitude as well but more so it was her trauma to not lose eren.
She has romantic feelings which is more than just he saving her or being a family. But she was confused about her feelings because she herself doesn't know if it is romantic love that she has or is it just that eren is her emotional anchor in life for which she would sacrfice herself to protect.
Eren asks this to really understand the nature of their relationship and how would a good person like mikasa care about a person like him?
When he realized it is more than just him saving her or him being a family to her, and realized that it is just love.
But he wanted mikasa to live a long life ahead. He knew he didn't have more than 4 years and thus he just couldn't be in a relationship. His mental psyche was very bad and self-loathing made him believe he doesn't deserve mikasas love and that she should live a good long life and throw away that scarf.
Mikasa wondering if things could have changed doesn't matter because whatever she is doing is leading to the deterministic future that exists and that is set in stone.
It's thus a tragedy
@@shubhamvyas3192 seems pretty spot on
@@shubhamvyas3192 I took it as Eren's last attempt to change his destiny, that he was crying beforehand and he desperately wanted to change the future. That maybe if Mikasa professed her love for him, he'd instead let Paradis/Eldia fall and run away with her for the rest of his life.
But it can't happen, because this is a story and a destiny Eren manifested for himself. He formed a time loop/destiny of his own future. In my theory, Eren isn't just the Attack Titan, every Attack Titan is Eren. That him obtaining Ymir's power let him influence the history of Eldians and gave the Attack Titan it's power to be influenced by it's future inheritors.
That he created the entire path that would allow him to be born, inherit the titans, then use them to create the path. He created this, and he never imagined he would become the devil the world feared.
the end basically shows how War can radicalise children. Seeing your mother killed right in front of you causes lifelong trauma.
tho i feel like eren only remembered his mother getting eaten to channel his anger towards the outside world...the first half of the episode clearly shows that eren DOES care for the people outside the walls and believes that many of them have nothing to do with this and it hurts him to think that he is going to wipe them all out (especially when he was crying). But then again with this mentality he cannot fight against the world and thus thinks of all the things that will enable him to wipe them all out.
@@nandishsenpai4646 Yeah, we need to see it from a birds eye view to see different sides of war and how selfishness and hatred and lack of communication and lack of negotiation.
I think we can go towards erwins question to eren in s1 epi 15.
"What do you think the enemy is?"
It's as if the enemy aren't titans or outside world or any particular entity, it's just us. We are the enemy of ourselves.
The paradisians especially jeagerist act more or less in a similar way the marleyans act towards eldians. And marleyans act like that because eldians from past acted like that against the marleyans and world in general for 1900 years.
Everyone has selfishness and the need to survive, everyone has to make the choices and the part of what the show is trying to tell is that can we move forward and fulfill our desires while also acting within the system that is established?
For example we might say that a system like democracy has a lot of flaws, but it's a big improvement and much better than the government systems that exist in AoT world.
The goal should be improvement, perfection won't exist but if we the living focus on working for creating better systems and improved systems only then we can create more stability.
Since the world is chaotic, there will be again fall and thus cruelty but again we need to see as humans where we went wrong and then again start, but this time we make up for the mistakes of past and not repeat it.
Survival is important but how you survive is even more important. Morals, systems and values will fall but it is duty of the humans to again bring them back and fight for those. Only such time tested morals systems and values help to create long term stability.
Some people even die but won't participate in the cruelty of killing innocent people. It's a choice they made.
Some people make a choice to kill innocents for their own survival.
But the thing with the latter is that then this becomes a precedent and other people follow it and thus killing innocent to avoid future conflict becomes a norm and thus cruelty increases.
The point is that, our desires and our emotions and our fears are natural but only if they are the deciding factor for any choice then it isn't really freedom because they change from time to time and thus there exists no moral or practical frame through which we can make decisions.
There exists no standards that decide how we make choices.
In our real world we have a lot of international organizations and codes that tell us what is a war crime and what isn't and many other things.
The implementation isn't as strong as we expect it to be but it's much better than just not having any such system.
The goal is to improve and include every world nation in this exercise so that everyone is kept accountable as well.
What do you think?
@@nandishsenpai4646 Yeah, it's basically like what he did at the end of Season 1 (which I know is anime original, but it still works really well). He couldn't transform because he wasn't mentally prepared to fight Annie, so he made himself recall said pain to channel his anger towards her.
@@simonO712 totally agree!
Omagine the millions of people living inside walls right now, watching their mothers die
You know a show is good when you're trying to say how great an episode is and you end up saying it only MIGHT make it into the top 15
For real. I can’t count how much 10/10 episodes this show has produced. There has not been a single bad episode yet and that’s a big deal
Makes sense when top 9 spots are directly taken by the three holy Trinities and then you have episodes like Sole Salvation, Bystander, That Day, Attack Titan, Friends etc
@@thedevil7720 Three holy trinities. If i am not wrong these are the ones right:
1) •Perfect game
• Hero
•Midnight sun
2) •Two brothers
• Memories of the future
• From you two thousand years ago
What's the 3rd one???? (S4 ep5-7?)
@@banana6108
Declaration of war
Warhammer Titan
Assault OR MAYBE
Traitors
Retrospective
Dawn of humanity
@@banana6108 Historia
Warrior
Close Combat 😆
By the way, regarding the “set in stone” aspect, remember when Grisha said to Zeke “from now on, only Eren will get his wish”? That moment, timing wise, was basically in E1xS1 of the anime, so Grisha is more or less confirming that events from as early as around ep1 going forward are taking place according to Eren’s will. Just like Eren reiterates in this very episode again, “everything happens by my will”.
I do believe literally this entire timeline and story is because Eren succeeded in obtaining Ymir's power. He manifested all of this to be destined to happen. The entire Attack Titans' power to see the future inheritors memories is only because Eren created that power to ensure he is born and gains the power to even create this weird time loop of destiny.
Eren even gave his younger self that "long dream" of the future, before he ever had the Attack Titan. Asking Mikasa when her hair got so long (because he saw future Mikasa in that dream). He didn't quite understand what it was or why he was crying, but it's because future Eren is pained forcing himself to have this life be his destiny he can't avoid.
it is an important factor of the story which is officially true but probably more than 90 percent of fandom don't even know is:
AOT's story happens in a Deterministic universe which means everything which will happen in the future is already and was always set in stone from the start!! it is even mentioned multiple times!! simply if someone even knew the future in aot's universe they can't , they can't change it because deterministic means the future happened because of the nature and actions of the character in the story so knowing future doesn't mean shit you can't change it, it will happen for sure in aot's universe though we don't know if its same for our universe too!!
Honestly introducing hard determinism into this story was a bad decision from Isayama. AoT is a story that constantly emphasises the moral gravity of people's decisions, and that only works if people in the story have moral agency. So inserting determinism just completely shits all over that.
But it still doesn't even hold a candle to... certain other decisions that were made in the ending in terms of pure unadulterated horse shit.
@@ChavvyCommunist try to understand what determinism means first. Like, "AoT is a story that constantly emphasises the moral gravity of people's decisions, and that only works if people in the story have moral agency", wtf? Timeline being deterministic doesn't change how impactfull hard deceisions of characters are at all. They still do them, they still form the future. And timeline makes their decisions even more valuable, and it's not about "oh, shit, i checked the future and it's bad, let's do some mumbo jumbo and revert it all". It means characters decisions actually have value. And they will always do them, will they see the future or not
@@ChavvyCommunist determinism doesnt mean that decisions dont matter it only means that once a decision is made it cant be changed
32:06 Zeke's enjoying it too for sure, the bond he's having during that time with his lil bro talking about Mikasa.
For me the finale of part 1 felt more like blueballing, but this part 2 finale feels like a proper cliffhanger 😂
And of course, kudos to Sephizen🦌 😭🙏
Your analysis of Eren’s titan design is brilliant. The paradox of Eren as pursuing freedom at all costs, until he is no longer free, enslaved to his obsessive pursuit, is exactly what Isayama-san intends, I think, with that very deliberate visuality-in that monster you see how broken Eren is
I see the design as a birdcage like in the ed, meaning eren is still not free. + What Filmbuff explained.
Not only that, but it's a reference to the "hanged man" tarot card.
"In a general context, The Hanged Man Tarot card indicates that you are in a situation that you are not happy with. You may be feeling like you are stuck in a rut or trapped in a situation or frame of mind that is not making you happy but you have the power to release yourself. This may involve walking away from the situation or simply changing your perspective on it. The Hanged Man may also signify that you may be facing a dilemma and are unsure of what path to take."
Eren is trapped in a situation by the mindset of "moving forward", and this is represented in the appearance of his titan, like a puppet on strings being strung towards ending the world. Yet he is there of his own volition, his own choices leading him to this situation. It suggests he is under the illusion of control of the situation, and we see this in his dialogue "this is all by my will" when in fact he gave the decision to Ymir.
@@Anasthera Hold on, isn’t that also how Bertholdt used to sleep? Back when they were still cadets, Bertholdt would cross his legs and put them up just like the hanged man-echoing also the man who confessed to him and Reiner, the man who Bertholdt would later say was looking for “judgment”. Maybe it could also hint to Eren’s inner conflict and desire to be judged or confronted by his friends
Eren’s “nothing yet” line is so sad yet so haunting because he knows one day he will come back to kill all of these innocent people that showed him and his friends hospitality and kindness.
"Reiner, I'm the same as you".
They definitely need all the time they can get in order to animate the insanity that is the last 9 or so chapters. I can’t wait!
Fr first at least a year and a half worth of work
I want them to release part 3 during oct-nov. Almost 2 years for 8-9 episodes so the quality will be godlike. Rumbling arc is super crazy
@@banana6108 it's going to drop in jan-feb 100%
@@blondymonk1535 I really hope that’s true
yeah, it's so bad it borders on the insane
When MAPPA took over, Isayama wasn’t done with the manga yet. So when The Final Season had been announced back in 2019 after S3p2 they didn’t know how much content was left. And they can’t just change the name and it is good for marketing purposes.
I don’t like that they tell us either, but I’m just happy that the series is getting fully adapted and if they need another year to make it good, I prefer that over rushing it obviously.
@@nerevarchthn6860 source: trust me bro
Attack on Titan is a warning to mankind, that we need to be kinder to each other. Life is special, and if we continue down this path that humanity has been on, one day, the right events will take place in the perfect sequence to birth someone just like Eren Jeager. A tragic character haunted by the world he grew up in, at really no fault of his own, but born out of the cruelty of mankind.
Sure buddy, you go and believe and that in your rainbow lala land
plenty of people like Eren in the world but it's hard to see them causing an omnicide to be completely honest
@@makaroninini Officialy world war 3 is gonne happen soon
@@UAGoWSuplexer thanks eren!
@@makaroninini i mean, imagine someone like that but with the means to do so. We do have a lot of nuclear weapons after all.
I love this song they picked for that moment. It is used in the show at key points but has always been impactful
Is that the destroyer or the creator? Ist das der Zerstörer oder der Schöpfer?
With the embers of hate we wave our swords Mit der Glut des Hasses schwenken wir die Schwerter
Is this our destiny or our will? Ist das unser Schicksal oder unser Wille?
We'll fight until that hot wind takes our wings Wir werden kämpfen, bis dieser heiße Wind unsere Flügel nimmt
A slave has no need for two eyes
Darth Maul: "Brilliant. Brilliant."
In AoT even though the future is ‘’set in stone’’ it still doesn’t take away agency from our characters. this is because aot aligns with the philosophy of compatibilism which we see through eren. the future is only set in stone because it ultimately aligns with his own desires. The anime cut one line but a very important one from the manga that highlights this aspect a lot and I would recommend for you to read chapter 130 (the chapter this episode adapted) if u want clarity on this.
as he says in this episode: ‘everything happened by my will’. yes the future is set in stone but it doesn’t mean eren/others are any less culpable for their actions. simply put in erens own words after he thinks of where it all began (hints at causal determinism):
‘it doesn’t matter’
this is eren’s choice and nothing takes away from that
@@secondeye1574 it doesnt matter that its not his choice its what makes up his will which in the end makes it his choice again
What a great character Eren is man, I don't agree at all with him and his ideals, but he is one of the best protagonist of anything in my opinion. How could you ever imagine that kid could ever end up like this, just insane.
It always feels great to see you getting to catch up with shingeki, I really appreciate the time and effort you have put in giving us your thoughts. The world, youtube and the fandoms need more people like you.
why you dont agree with him "at all" ? , there is no other option, just like him i wouldnt want historia to have babies and then eat each other over and over to preserve the royal blood. Surrender was not an option cuz marley would just enslave the eldians and keep using them. The world already hates the island. the only solution would be inf all the countries in the continent be at peace with each other and welcome the island to civilization, but that is certainly never going to happen, Waht other choice do you have?
His ideals is that we are all free and all lives are precious and that fear and judgement is the reason we have the cycle of hatred both in their and our world.
You disagree?
@@LateStageCap Eren is an extremist, he is the perfect example of the cycle of hatred, fear and judgement, so much that he is taken those precious lives because of his radicalism. So yeah, I disagree.
@@LateStageCap A man's ideals isn't only his vision, but the means to achieve said vision.
It's like saying if you agree with world peace, you'd also agree with mass hypnosis and loss of self.
Honestly, I agree with Erwin's opinion. He said once that people will continue to have conflict until there is one or less people left in the world. What Eren is doing won't even lead to the breaking of the cycle of hatred but instead making that cycle smaller.
@@-CarlosDelgado It's not so much about being an extremist. Considering Zeke only had 1 year in his cycle, and he was the last royal blood descendant besides Historia, there was simply no other way. You gotta look at the facts. The world was going to destroy them all without asking, they were just as cruel as he was. Why would the whole world assemble to attack a little island whose people didn't have any intention of attacking them to begin with? They are the same as him, killing innocents with and overwhelming force. The difference lies in the fact that Eren did it to protect his people from an inminent destruction, the world did it out of ignorance and not even caring to listen to paradis voice.
Once zeke's cycle was completed he would have to sacrifice historia and his descendants for an eternity to contain the world with "small scale rumbling" like armin said, and that would not work at all for him. Imagine being in Eren's place and being forced to let your loved ones be killed just because people who did not bother to know you decided so.
It sounds terrible, but the only actual way to ensure his people survival and peace was to destroy the whole world, there was just no other way. If you gave Eren a death note he would not kill any unnecesary victim, the story makes that clear, but there was simply no other choice. Talking prooved to be pointless, because it does not matter how much you are willing to talk if the other party is not willing to listen. They all decided that Paradis was a threat after more than 100 years without a single attack. (And they arbitraly attacked them)
It's a tragedy for the billions of innocents, but many those innocents were capable of cutting a little boy's hand for pickpocketing, torturing people living in the ghetos and enjoying it, and so on and on. There were actually really few innocents characters displayed in the story, and most of them were kids or eldians. The adults in SNK ruined the world and caused Eren's attack. Not being willing to sacrifice his loved ones does not make him and extremist at all. He was desperately looking for options, that's why he asked Hanji.
I always felt Eren is a character trapped in his own personal/selfish idea of freedom, and as you mentioned the puppet looking Titan is a visual representation of it: a puppet of fate and a puppet of his ideals. It's interesting however when Eren says that it doesn't matter where it all started, be it when Ymir released the pigs (if she actually did), or when he was born, he has always been himself and the choices he made are given importance because of it. If we look back, Eren at 9 years of age killed two adult armed men, and didn't even recognize them as humans, but as some sort of beasts. We saw that Mikasa while remembering that moment, more than feeling gratitude, she felt fear. If Eren as always been like this, if this violent nature has always been present, then what did she see in him? I think it's an important question that she asked herself, and Mikasa reflecting on his feelings for Eren isn't something new as you said: it started all the way back, probably after the Liberio raid even. However, even if she only saw the more humane and caring aspect of him (the scarf scene), now she has the full picture. Armin is the same, he hoped he was wrong in feeling what Eren might do with the Founding Titan's power, he wanted to belive a partial Rumbling was what he was aiming for. I too when reading those chapters of the manga felt a partial Rumbling was his main goal to protect everyone in that moment, and I found myself in the same position as Armin and Mikasa when the full scale Rumbling was announced, I felt disappointed in Eren. But some time later I started to realize that if there was 1 person in the story that could've initiated this apocalypse, it was always gonna be Eren. We see that just 1 other character correctly guessed the terrefic chain of events that would occur if Eren obtained the Coordinate, and it is Reiner. Since the S2 finale, chapter 50 of the manga, Reiner was the first one to completely understand Eren and what he was capable to do. This explains and adds a further layer to their conversation in the basement. As the truth of the world is revealed to everyone above their heads, to us as viewers is revealed the mentality of those 2 (incredible) characters, it's basically a trip in both of their minds. Eren states that he is the same as Reiner, and reiterates the same concept even after Reiner admits that it weren't the circumstances or his environment to make him like that, he went forward with the mission because he wanted to do it for himself, to become a hero in the eyes of his mother and so to be respected by everyone. And Eren replies that, as he thought, they really are the same: selfish motivations, wanting to protect your friends and push on to gain your unattainable freedom. These 2 pushed themselves into hell and witnessed a different kind of hell. They marched forward together, just in different places of the world (and of course, environment and awful circumstances played a huge part, but it's not just that).
The scene with everyone happy together one last time was really needed, and I also appreciate you noticing the scene of Levi understanding the pickpocket kid situation and saving him, since Levi also grew up basically doing the same things. As for the Eren and Mikasa scene, man if only the world wasn't fucked up then maybe they could've been happy together, but there's just this tragic feeling behind every scene that denies every form of sharing mutual emotions with Eren, aside from Mikasa saying the truth about her feelings or not. Also about the facial expressions, maybe it's the anime fault but in the manga Eren is looking very emotional while talking to her, almost as if he was about to break down. I thought the anime did a decent job though, so I don't really agree with the "stoic" expression.
For Historia, I think Eren reminding her of her selfish choice in the Reiss's cave made so that Historia "allowed" letting Eren make his own selfish choice (as you said it's not that she could stop him by words, I mean she tried but the result was clear). I don't blame her to be honest, wating to live your life and make your own family while moving away from the scene is pretty damn understandable from her pov. Especially if this is the only way to not shorten your life for the remaining 13 years. To me it's important to notice that it was her choice to get pregnant, and not Eren suggesting it. It's not much, cause her character was a bit wasted in the second half of the story, but at least it's coherent with her character. Still, we got too little from her.
And finally the ending scene, you said it all, it's the big grim reminder, not only for Marley/the eldians in Liberio (just like the one in Part 1), but for the entire world.
Im, thank you for your discussions, it has been a great experience until now, it also helped me both with my English and with my personal understanding of AoT, its characters and its themes. A final thank you for the Mod Titan Sephizen, always keeping Im safe.
I'll temporally leave from being a Patron, but I'll come back probably by the end of the year to binge watch your FMAB reactions and for AoT's Final Final Final Season :)
Until next time!
This was a lot to read, but was quite worth it : Thanks for sharing :-)
@@Samonac ye it’s the Wall Maria of text all right ahah ty for reading, just wanted to put in all my thoughts for this final FB discussion :)
I can't agree more with ypur thoughts mate. Well said!
Considering Zeke only had 1 year in his cycle, and he was the last royal blood descendant besides Historia, there was simply no other way. You gotta look at the facts. The world was going to destroy them all without asking, they were just as cruel as he was. Why would the whole world assemble to attack a little island whose people didn't have any intention of attacking them to begin with? They are the same as him, killing innocents with and overwhelming force. The difference lies in the fact that Eren did it to protect his people from an inminent destruction, the world did it out of ignorance and not even caring to listen to paradis voice.
Once zeke's cycle was completed he would have to sacrifice historia and his descendants for an eternity to contain the world with "small scale rumbling" like armin said, and that would not work at all for him. Imagine being in Eren's place and being forced to let your loved ones be killed just because people who did not bother to know you decided so.
It sounds terrible, but the only actual way to ensure his people survival and peace was to destroy the whole world, there was just no other way. If you gave Eren a death note he would not kill any unnecesary victim, the story makes that clear, but there was simply no other choice. Talking prooved to be pointless, because it does not matter how much you are willing to talk if the other party is not willing to listen. They all decided that Paradis was a threat after more than 100 years without a single attack. (And they arbitraly attacked them)
It's a tragedy for the billions of innocents, but many those innocents were capable of cutting a little boy's hand for pickpocketing, torturing people living in the ghetos and enjoying it, and so on and on. There were actually really few innocents characters displayed in the story, and most of them were kids or eldians. The adults in SNK ruined the world and.
Potraying Eren as just a cruel crazy guy willing to destroy the world completely disregards his character. His honest thoughts all throughout the story, and the fact that he wanted to die in historia's hands to save humanity during the uprising arc just ephazise this. Eren was not a monster, he was a normal guy given the impossible choice. He learnt this from Armin himself, it was not something he was sure of it himself. We was not able to fight annie until he heard armin's words, about sacrificing something to achieve something. He is far more complex to just say that he was a murder. The violent nature was there, of course, but it only triggered when others were abused in an unjust way. He would cry and be happy for the people who tried to be better than the sad world let them. He was like that since he was born, before someone takes away his freedom he takes away theirs. Freedom is just a concept, it can be happiness, family, love, whatever you want it. Many can forget and just move on, but he can't because he is cursed by his love.
A comment from a different reaction vid:
The design of Eren's titan is not only horrifying but symbolic. The design is that of a bird cage and Eren is tied with it by strings like a puppet, representing Eren is a slave to his desires for freedom. " Everyone was a slave to somethin' "- Kenny Ackerman
The structure is also upside down like the hanged man in tarot card which means "ultimate surrender, sacrifice, suspended in time and of martyrdom and sacrifice to the greater good".
And finally, we see the wall of colossal titans still in front of Eren, even though they are no longer walls. Symbolising that Eren can never be free, or at least not yet anyway
Also, if you go back to the ceremony in honor of the survey corps with queen historia and the gang at the end of season 3 and check out the necklace queen historia holds up, it looks like eren's founding titan form.
That's the most perfect thing I've read so far. Every day I learn something new from this show it's crazy
I don't think Mappa planned to split Aot final season into 3 parts. I heard that aot final season was just dropped on them in 2020 and they planned to have it only be 1 part. but midway thru development they realized that there is no way they would be able to produce the final season without splitting it into parts but they probably couldn't go back on the " final season " title for marketing reasons which is why they've just been calling these full seasons: part 1 part 2 part 3
thats what I believe what happened
The Attack on Titan production committee is a garbage fire. They have ridiculously unrealistic expectations. It's no wonder that all but one studio said "no thx", when they were told how much time and money they would have at their disposal.
@@jackslater4152 To be fair, WIT studio adapting new titles is pretty dope, especially with Spy x Family.
I've seen the final five minutes of this episode a dozen times. The image of Eren's anguish and rage over his mother's death is always chilling
It's really refreshing to see someone that actualy understands the character.
When this chapter published in tankobon volume, Isayama redrew Eren's expression in the "what am I to you" scene to make clear that he's desperate, almost pleading. So no, he was not being stoic. lol
I really love Mappa's work but I feel like they have a really hard time showing softer facial expressions.
@@EliPride11 I would say that they are able to show it, but only when they are obvious, when the faces are complex, they often make mistakes.
You get all the little character moments, you know these people so well they can hardly surprise you, it’s genuinely amazing!
Im so glad you arent afraid to speak your mind and bring attention and perspective to "chad eren", the yeagerists, and the overall nuance of the situation. So many people that i respected have started to look at AoT on a surface level or black and white and pick teams. Its awesome to see my favorite reactor stick to being introspective. Cant wait to hear your thoughts on the final arc of this great and sometimes polarizing series.
Well the writing has taken a nosedive. Why are the characters not even discussing the fact that if they stop Eren the rest of the world will still want to genocide them? Even more so now that Eren has tried to wipe them all out. Why are none of the characters even confronting Annie about all the atrocities she commited so callously against them? Why does Levi have no reaction to the murderer of his potential love interest? She just makes a funny face eating pie and they all laugh, like wtf. Then recruiting her to join them in their goal of what? Stopping the only way they are going to survive? Yes fascism isn't good obviously but the story seems to be using that to paint Eren or Floch (the only character actually sticking to his principles and natural progression) as bad guys to justify the absolutely brain dead actions of Armin and co.
@@theblackswordsman9951 The annie pie eating scene is the worst scene in the entire show and no "side" in this fanbase can defend it
@@theblackswordsman9951 they did discuss the fact that the rest of the world will want to genocide them? Several times, i don't know what you're on about.
@@galarstar052 ignore them they are still butthurt a year later over the ending using the same old tiring arguments although if they took half the time they spend on the internet complaining to actually read the manga most of their questions will be answered
@@MrJCarter8 I shouldn't have to read the manga. That is a failure on the anime's part then.
fun fact, in the manga, that whole marley flashback actually came right after the rumbling was activated, before eren gave his big speech to all eldians. when that episode came out with no flashback, the manga community was in shambles for weeks, worrying it had completely been cut haha
I live in the UK, so its 5:11AM as im typing this. Never been more excited for an AOT reaction in my life, infact im going to sleep and watching it tomorrow when i have food prepared 🤣 This episode is insane, i really hope he enjoys it. Much love everyone from the UK ❤️ thank you so much for this series
Absolutely perfect analysis of Eren's character. I really appreciate you even picking up on the subtle details like even if Mikasa chose differently it wouldn't have changed anything or even the brief representation of Levi as someone who would understand a pickpocketer. AoT has been one of the greatest journeys of my life and I'm glad to watch it alongside you. Till the next final season, final part, final arc! XD
"That's him, yeah it's the Shingeki no Kyojin". We waited years for this... the true meaning of the name of the show.
what are we? some kind of Attack on Titan?
@@SomeDudeOG "Mikasa, what am I to you?"
"Attack on titan: Final Season Part 2"
I love when eren said "I'm about to go attack on titan",really the hardest title drop ever
Filmbuff has reacted to The Dawn of Humanity. Now part 2 is officially over.
It’s officially called the “conclusion arc” in the preview for part 3
Well it has multiple names but in the official manga release it was called ragnarok arc
This Episode alone basically proofs all the "aot´s ending is just as bad as got´s ending" wrong.
If the Ending of Attack on Titan would be as bad as GoT´s, the Allied Fleet would have stopped the Rumbling right here, because thats what happened with the White Walkers in GoT. Years of build up, just to be stopped in the very first battle.
True, but we'll still need to wait and see if the ending's good, though.
Your eren character analysis was on point! Not surprised that you managed to look past his chad eren persona and picked up the very human elements of his character.
"It won't be called Final Season Part 3... that would just be silly."
Uh, yeah. That would sure be awkward, heh.
Another goated reaction and discussion by the best reactor on the platform 🐐🐐
I’m sure you’ve already watched the whole thing
@@user-cr2bt3zp1f I don’t need to watch yet to know what’s coming from the goat!
15:20 You're right, when Season 4 started production, the Manga wasn't finished so they had no idea how many episodes they would actually need.
It's horrific the fact that the titans are simply walking. You don't have 800 different species of metamorfosed demons flying and screaming.
Titans walking, not even running, not showing any specific anger directed towards someone or something, not focusing on anything in particular. And their complete lack of reaction to any damage that doesn't kill them on the spot. Not even a blink, or a second to stop or recover. No, they keep walking forward.
And the uncanny valley look given by the mutilated aspect of their faces, the very oddly proportioned body parts, the lack of skin...
I find it to be a really good representation of horror, genuine horror, the type that actually terrifies, not that cheap, bloody and empty excess of gore.
Yes, something like the horror of inevitability of end of life, cannot outrun, cannot hide. It's not personal to you, but it's still coming for you. Well written underrated comment!
Thanks for giving me a much deeper appreciation of this season, FILMBuFF. It’s been a pleasure to watch the episodes as they came out, and then come here each week and listen to your analysis of a previous episode. I thought I understood everything pretty well, but there is so much subtlety that I’d have never picked up on if it weren’t for these videos.
It’s agony to have to wait another year for the final chapter of Shingeki, but I’m already equally excited to watch your breakdowns as I am for the conclusion itself. See you in a few months (or sooner if I pick up Vinland Saga)!
You definitely should pick up Vinland Saga, it’s amazing and season 2 which will be even better will come out this year.
At work with no volume but seeing Im's head shake and smirk when the Commander talks about how every large cannon in the world is present was hilarious
I'm sure you already know, but in the manga the flashback is shown much earlier, after Eren first activates the rumbling. The chapter begins with the flashback and then cuts to Mikasa and Armin on the roof watching the the walls collapse and Eren transforming. In the anime the activation was at the episode's mid point, so they moved the flashback.
Really love the placement in the anime, tbh
@@r_bear I like both. It fits to put it in the final episode in a more quiet moment on the boat, where Mikasa has time to reflect. But I also liked the contrast of Mikasa wondering if things could have turned out differently and who Eren really was as a person all these years next to the utter destruction around her in Shiganshina.
Bro think about it, when was the last time Eren, Mikasa and Armin actually smiled and had a good time, shit makes me emotional bruh lol
You have my respect for giving out your genuine thoughts.
Very insightful.
This is one of the episodes that really made me tear up near the end and it was in a really weird way, because I cried over the "red shirts", the people trying to stop the rumbling. I got the same feeling of hopelessness in season 3 finale, when Eren is pointing at the sea, scene that also gets me every time.
Really good reaction, I have a lot of respect for your work!
Knowing what Eren knew at the ocean makes the ocean reveal the best scene in the series that isn't in 131.
What if, when Eren was pointing towards the sea and said "if we kill our enemies, will we be finally free?", he was already picturing himself as the founding titan with all the colossal titans marching and stampeding in front of him? In other words, he knew that he was going to do that, but in Season 3 finale, he didn't want to accept that future yet. Hence, his depressed and sad expression.
@@daniaaalthere's no "what if" about that, really. He Knew
I'm pretty sure MAPPA will nail the next part's animation. We're gonna witness history being created guys.
yea the biggest disappointment in anime history when people see the end.
@@DATskorge and that yeah i agree. hopefully it's an AOE but my gut says no
@@aaaratrik i hope they stay with the ending anything else would just be way worse the fanfictions are horrible except for a few ideas so a studio thats already fully worked up would never even come close to that in terms of creating a good ending
@@DATskorge nope
@@DATskorge Except that it's already confirmed by Isayama that the anime wil get a different ending from the manga. Hold your judgement until it is released.
Eren taking just one night to try and forget about what he knows is coming is both heart warming and gut wrenching. To see him actually smile in this beautiful moment with the people he loves and giving them but more importantly himself one last night of happiness together before it all goes so wrong is the epitome of tragic.
the version of call of silence played in this ep is called eye-water if ur curious
I'm sure others have said this but re-watching AOT is a whole new show once you have all the information.
Truth be told, I think the season numbers make sense, in terms of whole arcs. The first season is the introduction arc. All the build up, up to the first titan-adjacent mystery: why is there a titan in the wall? Then the second season is the upping of stakes, and reveal of titan shifters. So the ending of that is a new important mystery: how can Eren control the titans? The third is the political arc where the inner walls had to be "remade" before the basement can finally be revealed. And it answered the greatest mystery of all: why are the people in the walls, and what happened to the outside world? The fourth season is the conclusion where the outside world and inner wall societies clash to see who will be victorious and survive in the end. It doesn't compute as well in terms of marketing, but the story can be divided in those 4 chunks, it's just that some of them are bigger than others.
I honestly think that people who hate the ending have this weird obsession with "chad Eren". They think he had some sort of character development that made him a chad, and are mad that he's no longer that in the end. It's obviously a facade he's putting on to accomplish his goal. A great example is when he's staring at the mirror saying "Tatakae" to himself. He doesn't want to do what he's doing, so he tries to instill confidence in himself in order to do what he has to do. People who hate the ending just have no idea what Eren and this story is about.
Most of those people are just not emotionally mature. You're right that they want to view Eren as a 2-dimensional "Chad" archetype when he is more complex than that. In reality, he's an emotionally stunted child who never got a chance to fully grow up due to the circumstances he found himself in. That's why we see during the Rumbling in S4 Part 3 that he's fully regressed into a child in his mind to cope with the horror of what he's doing. My own theory is that he's not the one actually controlling his actions. He's not free, but trapped in a time loop that has made him a pawn of either Ymir, to seek revenge on the entire world, or the titan parasite, to achieve its own goal of eradicating its competition, aka. the rest of humanity.
@@maelstrom2313 I think you're wrong with the theory. This is Eren's wish. His dream is to be free. Yes, he's not chad. He's a very complex character, but it was still HIS dream
I haven't looked at Eren's deeds trough the perspective of self hatred before(althought it makes a lot of sense in light of season 3 and the Reiss Family Cave events). Thanks to that his rejection of Mikasa's feeling feels even more painful. He doesn't only push her away becasue of his knowledge of future events and his care for her(as well as care for the other members of the Scouts), but also beacasue of his inner self loathing(which reminds of Kenny and him calling himself "garbage" alongside his abanondment of Levi, saying he is not fit to be a parent), that makes him believe he isn't fit for a lover/a good friend. Despite him telling Zeke, that his life span is too short to do something in terms of a relationship, I believe that deep inside Eren would want nothing else, than to be happy with Mikasa.
This also gives me a new perspective on one thing: the titan shifters transforming trough self harm, that represnts them punishing themselves for their sins(not only beacuse of marleyan propaganda but also because of the things they had done and they are going to do).
I like how it's basically calling back to Reiner in 1x02. People are trying ti stop the Rumbling with canons - didn't work. So out of fear they start running and they can't do anything about the titan(s) marching on them and crushing everything in the way. They even used the same OST for both scenes (with Eren's entrance being more iconic for the OST - The earth rumbles and becomes red. I recommend checking out the lyrics if you are interested. To think this OST is here since s1.. Isayama basically spoiled even manga readers with it without us noticing, probably :D )
He took the "Reiner, I'm the same as you" to the next level.
The greatest episode of AOT hasn’t been animated yet.. That will be next season’s first episode, no doubt. Don’t fuck it up Mappa, we’re counting on you to deliver.
SPOILERS FOR MANGA (for you moderators). Lol yeah the only chapters left that I care about are 131 and 134. 131 because it's top 5 chapters of aot imo and 134 because the rumbling scenery and that speech was peak.
Peak fiction deserves a peak reactor 🔥 Great work!
This is not peak fiction not even close lol
@@zub41r75 why are you so obsessed with aot. If you don’t like it then leave
@@zub41r75 Maybe not for you, but it is for me and many others.
@@bilalahmedsiddiqui9639 Nah
Fr Peak content+ Peak Analysis= Peak enjoyment
こんにちは、日本視聴者です。毎回動画を楽しませて頂いています。これからも応援しています！
I've been waiting so long for this reaction and I just noticed its out... what a way to start the weekend!!!!
Oh boy, I've been waiting for this reaction for 1 week and 3 days hehe. Here we go!
We've been waiting 2000 years for this reaction...
Definitely will be looking forward to a recap + prediction video from you before S4P3 starts airing
That's him...the Attack Titan!
Chills man.
Beautiful reaction as always. I'm glad you know and realize there is so much more to Eren than what is on the surface. I hope you look forward to the next part!
What an epic, bittersweet part finale. Legendary breakdown of Eren Jaeger, man.
Been waiting a long time for the finale reaction so glad it’s finally here great analysis and can’t wait for part 3
Timing-wise, would be very akward from Eren to have a relationship with Historia on the island, and later, on Marley, to ask Mikasa about her feelings for him and show that type of personal interest.
The order of these interactions contradicts Eren being the father stuff pretty clear.
@@8ever960 no it was said that eren told floch his plan 10 months ago at the current time in the story. remember that the time between s4 ep 8 (end of marley arc) and the current story is 1 month so it was 9 months ago at that time. historia is basically about to give birth so if they left for marley a few days or a week after he told historia and floch his plan the timing lines up to 9 or so months
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I don't know where you got that but the timeline is very clear. All of season 4 part 2 happened in 3 days. All the last 4 or so episodes in season 4 part 1 happened in the same day as part 2 starts. Pyxis and hange mentioned that 10 months ago the railway celebration happened. Eren talked with yelena in the same day as the celebration. After some time they went to marley. The attack on fort salta happened 2 months ago and the attack on liberio happened one month ago (udo and gabi mention this in the manga).
That means that they eren stayed in marley for less than 9 months
@@luceafarul5740 the months don't matter tbh, why tf would Eren sleep with Historia when he literally kissed her hand ONCE and got his own life more than fkd up than it already was. Also Zeke has said that it's dangerous for them to touch so casually.
@@jaws9116 yes, the months do matter. She says that she has a plan to get pregnant, gets pregnant right after her talk with eren (while it doesn't help the plan at all cuz the purpose of the wine plan was to not allow the military to feed zeke to historia). Furthermore, manga spoilers ahead:
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She lies about her due date (levi said that she will give birth in a few months but she does in a few days), and gives birth during the rumbling (the final fight to be more precise) . Don't forget that zeke and eren planned to have the rumbling start at that exact time and place.
Considering all of those, of course i expected something to come out of that, it's way to intricate and perfect timed to be just a coincidence
@@jaws9116 They literally had hand holding sessions before RTS to unlock other memories but it never worked. He doesn't get memories every single time lol. It's actually very very rare.
Rewatching this series is absolutely insane, I think you should rewatch it before part 3 comes out because there is a kind of a disagreement on if the ending is good or not
Instead of rewatching, read the manga from the beginning. A lot of characterisation was missed in the anime
true especially mikasa
@@jnktae not really, her entire personality in both is just ereh.
@@0xRoco you clearly haven't read the manga
@@gayanegasparyan4137 classic response from an EMtard no argument whatsoever, enjoy your dogkasa bro.
@@gayanegasparyan4137 I did and I remember ereh
19:40 The Titans swim by expelling gas. In that sense they are more like colossal sized torpedoes.
I'm gonna rewatch the entire series and look out for all the time Eren says "yet"
Short moments in the show added along with the trauma and the feeling of self worth really end up culminating in Eren's final form, the first episodes where Hannes admits that the only reason he couldn't do anything to his mother (despite her ironically being doomed to death from the crushed building to begin with) was his own weakness, spurring him on that the only way to save someone is by being strong, or the one time capable people he looked up to told him to just trust them, only to witness them all being slaughtered deepening the feeling that the only person that Eren can ever fully believe that he is going to do what he says he's going to do is himself.
Part 3 will probably come out in the spring or fall season of 2023 instead of the January - March timeframe because when part 2 teaser was released the production committee said that it would come out in winter season of 2022 whereas with part 3 teaser they have only given release year which means that it's later than usual, which makes sense given that this is the final part.
Thankyou for this amazing discussion FB!
I was about to sleep, picked up my phone to set my alarm, saw this notification, and now I think maybe going to school tomorrow isn't that necessary
Love your reactions!! You truly understand the story like no other . I can't wait for your part 3 reactions in 2023. See you then 😊
this is my fav episode omg I cry every time I watch it. fuckin love it man. I’m so happy you’re watching this series with us
whats the panel shifting wall decoration you have ? seems very cool.
When you go back to the second ending of season 1, there is a shot of Eren that looks similar to his Founding Titan form.
I was not expecting this to come out today but LETS GOOOOO
Read the manga from the beginning instead of re-watching. It also takes much less time.
I'd put this episode as my second favorite, the first one is for Declaration of war. Those two episodes were so good. Now to wait one year for part 7 and probably cry with every single episode of that part :(
As always, The best reactor for Shingeki no Kyojin, see u again in the conclusion arc
This was my favorite chapter i think they animated it perfectly
Thanks for the great stuff man! I'm gonna continue watching your anime content, and perhaps in the future your other new stuff!
13:33 Well its kinda hard to tell when every episode is your top 10 xD
Filmbuff watching AoT: first 15 seconds: "WAHH,WAHH... WOWWW" :D understandable though
This is where our hearts break 10:26 💔💔💔
Yeah this episode had a lot of great cuts, btw cuts are singular shots and sequences that are usually drawn by one person and animator. So yeah, great reaction, I am definitely looking forward to part 3 and definitely looking forward to your future content other than aot, love you man.
Flashback of shingeki characters having fun: hi
Me: ~crying a river~
Eren's comment is very ironic considering he's going to be taking away their freedom. This scene hurts because every single one of those people are going to die. Everyone, the adults, the kids. Eren is going to kill absolutely everyone on Earth not on Paradis.
I agree with everything you said about Eren, however I do think there's a part of him that feels some satisfaction in destroying everything. Even tho in his head he knows the majority of these people don't deserve this end and this is really crushing him, I feel like deep in his heart he still feels like he deserves his vengeance. Eren is a mess; even tho we understand his reasonings, I don't think this excuse or is enough to forgive neither him nor his accomplices, Floch and Historia. Eren and Floch will most definitely end up dead (I don't believe Floch is dead already, no body no death), but I'm sure Historia will go out unscathed, which is why I don't get when people say she was done dirty. She will end up fine, with a cute baby and still the queen, and probably no one will ever know the part she played in the end of the world; the only thing she'll have to deal with is her conscious, which can be an ok punishment, I guess 🤷🏿♀️ Characters like Mikasa, Armin, Reiner and Connie are in waay worse states than her
When people say Historia was done dirty, they mean they don’t like how she was sidelined (which I agree with). Historia is one of my top 5 favourite characters, but I barely get so see her at all anymore :(
However, I’m happy as you said that she seems to get a (relatively) happy ending.
@@RaffyDGoat I guess, but to me people elevate Historia way too much. Don't get me wrong, I like her as well, but she was never a main character; like Ymir, she was a background character, elevated for a couple arcs when she was needed for the story, but when the arcs were concluded they went back to the background. Historia hasn't been relevant since the end of 3a, and to be quite honest she could easily have died during 3b and the story would go on the same overall. She was way luckier than Ymir and managed to stay alive, but then her presence must have become a slight annoyance to Isayama, who needed to come up with a reason for Zeke to stay in the story. Narratively speaking, exchanging Zeke for Historia would be the most lackluster thing in the world, considering Zeke's alliance with Eren is the thing bringing all the conflict for half this season. With all that in mind, I always thought the pregnancy was a good way out, specially because it highlighted the big difference between Ymir and Historia: Ymir being the most selfless character in the show, despite pretending the opposite the entire time, and Historia accepting who she really is, quite selfish in fact, finally letting go of her "good girl" facade and living for herself. I think it's a great end for her character arc and a way for her to honor Ymir, by living the way she wanted her to live. But then again, since I never considered Historia a main character, I never expected her to be actively involved in the resolution of the story. In my opinion (and please don't get mad at me, it's just an opinion) people gave Historia more importance than Isayama ever did, and that's the origin of so much disappointment. I don't think it's anyone's fault really. Like, if you think about it, nothing in the story really indicates her pregnancy has any importance on things to come: no main characters wonder about it or about the father, they don't even talk about it actually. I think Isayama tried to make it as irrelevant as possible in the story, but people still wanted it to mean something because they like Historia. And it does mean something, but not what people wanted, so they didn't like it or didn't really understand. Tho Isayama probably should have been more upfront form the start, maybe having a scene with Historia herself saying the pregnancy was a scheme right from the get go. But then again, the MPs do say it's a scheme on episode 10, but people don't take them into consideration because most people only believe in words that come out of the (""good"") main character's mouths 🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️. So maybe, in reality, it's everyone's fault 🤔
@@beatrizoliveira9344 It’s funny you say that Ymir and Historia were only background characters for you when they are two of my favourites characters and also my favourite couple in the series. After thinking about it for a long time, I don’t understand why Historia got pregnant. She could have just gone into hiding or something. I think it’s just such a wasted character. Why would Isayama build up this amazing character and then basically write her out of the story? I’m still hoping for something in part 3 but I’ve already kinda lost hope and accepted that this is it and I won’t get to see Historia once post-timeskip besides sitting in a chair at a farm, silently..
@@RaffyDGoat Historia's pregnancy actually makes sense for the story. She got pregnant because she didn't want to be transformed into a titan shifter. The 50 year plan required her to inherit Zeke's titan and have her kid eat her and repeat again until there will be no more hostility between the outside world and Paradis. Before, she was willing to become a titan but Eren revealed his plan of omnicide and while she opposed it, Eren guilt tripped her into following his plan and hence why she gave in and proposed to become pregnant. She cannot become a titan while pregnant, and that's why many MPs discredited her for being a coward (keep in mind that those MPs didn't know about the full rumbling and are only aware of the 50 year plan hence why their disappointment to Historia's initiative)
@@RaffyDGoat But I don't say it in a bad way, that's just how I see their parts in the story. I do love Ymir and I really like Historia (tho I'm quite tired of hearing about her after all the discussions her pregnancy generated this season). And you're right, she could have just gone into hiding, but she would have been persecuted to the ends of the island; she is too important, the MPs wouldn't let a stone left untouched in order to find her. It would be hell and they probably would end up finding her, not to mention running away would be a huge blow on her reign. In comparison, getting pregnant is much easier: nothing really changes for her, and once everything pass (if all goes to plan) she'll remain the queen and will have an heir. Farmer guy won't impact her life in any way, but since he's an old acquaintance of hers I imagine she thinks he'll be a good dad. And if you wanted her to take part in the story, disappearing to only comeback once the story ends isn't the same problem you have right now? Imo her being the one to suggest this pregnancy, effectively accepting Eren's plan and putting herself and the island above the entire world is extreme, yes, but quite in line with her character and the way she was set up to develop through the show. I think it's a fitting end for her 🤷🏿♀️
Filmbuff if your going to do a rewatch I feel like it’s definitely worth it to read the manga till where the anime stopped.
Why not both? 😅
You could also consider the idea that Eren and Mikasa see the conflict in so radically different ways because they engage with causality in radically different ways. At this point it’s safe to say that Eren is losing himself; he’s living his present, the memories of the past and the memories of the future at the same time. He knows things are meant to be like this because he sees causality unfold in front of his eyes; Mikasa doesn’t, so she thinks of the possibilities. She lingers on choices she did or didn’t make.
It relates to the idea that, in a deterministic world, free will is but an illusion. I can live my whole life in that illusion, believing that I’m free to choose whatever path I want in life instead of determined by my past. However, if a perfect predictor is introduced, like in Eren’s case, the illusion of free will shatters.
On your point around 42:00 that the refugees seem deliberately Middle Eastern, but are drinking alcohol:
I'd say they're specifically hinted at being the local equivalent to Turks. Turkish Islam is quite a bit different from Arab Islam, and many things Arab Muslims would consider heresy are pretty common in Turkey. The attitude came about a few decades after the Great War tho, and AoT's world was going through their version at that time, so it's a bit too early afaik, but hardly unimaginable.
Yes.Turks has a national alcohol called
"rakı". Turks have alcohol culture. Those people were Turkish. I mean Eren is Turkish name. It is clear Isayama inspired by Turks . He use Turkish name for a main character and Ottoman Empire for plot. They weren't Arab . Turks aren't Arab.
@@brtn3231can you tell me what Isayama took as inspiration from the Ottoman empire? Seems very interesting!
Honestly they can label the seasons whatever they like so long as they keep on improving on themselves from an already fantastic job i thought they (MAPPA) did on Part 1 of Final. Of course biggest praise to the actual writer of the story. Gosh these (Wit, MAPPA) companies are firing on all cylanders
my dude FilmBuff I have to ask : Do you have hair ?
This episode is around 10th best for me. Loved these parts in the manga (and they got moved to later in the anime) and I was super happy with the adaptation of everything, and its all so good for the characters and so impactful. But yeah there are so many amazing episodes that its hard picking best episodes. Also I think this show may honestly be better on rewatch.
I think it would be a good idea for a video to rank your favorite episodes and characters.
Yeah I don't think the production committee planned far enough ahead to anticipate 3 parts. Isayama had been saying since the Marley arc AOT was in its final stretch, so announcing the "final season" at the end of s3p2 seemed smart. But when you put it in perspective they announced the final season around the time chapter 119 released (the third ep of s4p2). The rumbling hadn't even started yet and as it would turn out the manga wouldn't end for another 20 chaps. I'd always expected they would adapt up to 122 in part 1 then the final rumbling section in a part 2 but as it turns out that wasnt the case. Very poor planning regardless.
I'm glad that the major issue with the show till now is the naming of the seasons 😂. I mean who tf cares content will still be the same. People will anyway watch
The only problem i have is that the people are hating on mappa because of this even though it was wit who named it final season
@@banana6108 Let's be honest: It's gonna be great recommending this to people in the future: "Yeah man, my favourite season is definitely The Final Season Part 3 Cour 1"
Hi, I would appreciate if you do a video about your top 10 favourite episodes, or characters before part 3.
never clicked so fast in my life
Same
Lmao samee