I asked Code about it and he replied me that ' in 2012, I thought that it was cool to be aggresive in battle but when i watched a clip, i felt so ashamed about myself being aggressive so i changed my battle style to be peaceful after that ' Code said so
Also for those who are unfamiliar with the way we show the live round-by-round scores... every time a round is finished the numbers that appear are from the judges' input. The Category scores (3-1 for MOO at the end of this battle) and the Category icons are lit up based on the accumulated points for each respective category, which are not shown until the final score board in the end. The battle is won through Category score and not Total score
It was so intense. They've known each other so long time I guess. And Fusion MC is good! They actually won in total score. Only if they didn't cut in exch other that often.
I notice that MOO are always a tad more aggressive against other korean teams. Probably the first vid I watched that I felt that they lost their composure a little.
I think they changed after 2012, because Dyzee said after R16 2012 he went over and thought them about some new ways of battling. After that, from 2013-present we see them as really cheerful and jubilant
Man, both crews were dope. But Morning of Owl just had so much energy, loved their positivity and enjoyment. Their energy just spreads and rubs off on you. And their dancers have a lot of upper body movement with their hands, which is a real strong point, cause a lot of bboys just do footwork but don't integrate the rest of the body. MOO really dance and feel the music and just groove with it.
Morning of Owl took the win, winning Foundation, Execution, and Battle judges against Fusion MC who only won the Dynamic judge. Even though MOO has a lower total score, they have enough points in the right places to win the three categories over FMC's one. *Note: The win is not based on total score, it is based on "Judges'" aka category scores. Thus, 3 to 1 for MOO
Well, the lit up icons represent the categories where the crew has more points IN TOTAL. They count up all the points from previous rounds and then compare it. So it's not just from the previous round, but the total from every round. In round 2 they still had more in total for the last 3 categories but thanks to their high score in originality, they also had more points total in that category.
Ahhh so see if I have this right (also based on Strifes reply above) Throughout the battles as each round finishes, the lit categories and middle numbers represent the categories that that particular crew are succeeding in and not actual points per round. So the middle numbers can never exceed 5, am i right?
Morning of Owl is one of the most creative Bboys crew ever. They remind us that bboying is first of all a DANCE, not just a sequence of dull "power moves". If all we want are power moves, let us just watch amateur gymasts. Many Bboys foreget that bboying is first of all a physical and emotional interpretation of music. Creativity over technique! Anyway, another extremely creative group just won BOTY 2012 ... Vagabonds...It would have been mind-blowing to watch Morning of Owl v Vagabonds.
Yep that's right. the numbers in the middle represents how many categories the crews have more points in. and since there are only 5 categories, you can only get a maximum of 5 category score
Most Korean crews have many of their main members who are now drafted to the army. Believe me, they are all interested in BOTY, but even if they win, half their members can't go. Jinjo is going to have to go to the army soon, maybe next year. Morning of Owl has been missing for two years because of the army, but has finally completed their mandatory service, that is why you see them back in action.
In the hope of not being hated on, can someone explain this system to me. I get it all, and from what I understand it works like this: Each round they see who got the highest scores in each category. The more categories you score higher in, each equals 1 point. At the end of round 1, Fusion MC have 3 points, and 3 categories lit up. At the end of round 2, FMC scored higher in Originality and Dynamics, however 4 categories are lit up, and their score is 4...(continued...)
If the categories are tied, then the numbers of points you got are important. Morning of Owl would lose if they had just 1 category and Fusion MC also 1. Categories -> total points you get
i feel like Fusion MC won. I didn't pay attention till now, that it is really scored on how many categories you win, not on the number of points you got.
If the OUR System had the winner based on Total Points, then it would take away the freedom for how a bboy or crew wants to express their style. That would mean that every time someone goes in, they would need to do everything just to score high. This isn't how original cypher battles are, where you can choose to do whatever you want, and thus why OUR System is based on winning more perspectives instead of total points
but then again even though they have more quantity(winning more badges)means that they won them because of the better quality they showed in those categories. goddammit mindfuck
Holy fuck. MOO def came prepared for fusion mc. After watching those boys in the Battle Chelles pro and seeing them stomp havikoro with their commandos and routines MOO was not gonna go out the same way. Jesus. That was an amazing battle.
...continued: FMC have 4 lit categories at end of round 2, but only scored higher in 2 of those categories. And their total was 4 at the end of round 2...Why is this? I take it the SCORE is only showing what they received in the previous round. I like this system but maybe the video editors made mistakes when representing the scores (no offence intended) I think they should black and white the icons after each round, that or I need to shut up and just accept I'm dumb :P
whats up with the guy from morning of owl thats all in black with like the fishers cap always getting in the others routines and yelling for everything..
Fusion MC should've def. won that. I wish the system had objective reasoning for when crews go out of line. I like Moo, but that was a bit much, and they definitely should've had some penalty for interruptions
i searched up the song on itunes and its the song but it doesnt have the break thats playing in this video, unless im incorrect. does yours have the break of the song with it also?
the results are making me think the system is flawed .. morning of owl won with 3 badges over 1 of course, but at the same time fusion mc has a higher total score. just somethin that made me think
3:27 I wonder if anyone would call him a biter for doing that? Elsewhere did that in out for fame 2002 san diego. I've seen the battle hundreds of times, but I doubt he bit that move, thats just something two people can think of.
i think gamblerz and jinjo are either touring or just hella sessioning and some of rivers were in korean assasins but also i think its cuz most of the bboys are prolly doin military right now but i cant say forsures
I feel like only Pocket is the respectful one. lol and He's well respected as well. The rest of the crew is really.. ehh.. in my perspective. Still a dope battle.
Rest of crew? I dont think his crew was offensive... havent you seen how Fusion MC screwed up Issue´s set ....? even TWICE? I think Fusion MC have no respect in this battle..not M.O.O
![BOTY 2012 KOREA - PRELIMINARY - FINAL - FUSION MC VS MORNING OF OWL [BOTY TV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZjRXG67WGyc/mqdefault.jpg)
its weird seeing Morning of Owl being aggressive especially Code
hahahaahh true that !
FlurpinButts nd what at other crew...look like they weren't here to dance but to humiliate moo..
Their friendly not aggressiv
I asked Code about it and he replied me that
' in 2012, I thought that it was cool to be aggresive in battle but when i watched a clip, i felt so ashamed about myself being aggressive so i changed my battle style to be peaceful after that '
Code said so
@@user-pq8fy2ml9e That's cool to hear!
Also for those who are unfamiliar with the way we show the live round-by-round scores... every time a round is finished the numbers that appear are from the judges' input.
The Category scores (3-1 for MOO at the end of this battle) and the Category icons are lit up based on the accumulated points for each respective category, which are not shown until the final score board in the end.
The battle is won through Category score and not Total score
Code showing no mercy! killin em'
Another Code fan! Respect!
It was so intense. They've known each other so long time I guess.
And Fusion MC is good! They actually won in total score.
Only if they didn't cut in exch other that often.
I notice that MOO are always a tad more aggressive against other korean teams. Probably the first vid I watched that I felt that they lost their composure a little.
I think they changed after 2012, because Dyzee said after R16 2012 he went over and thought them about some new ways of battling. After that, from 2013-present we see them as really cheerful and jubilant
Kneefur Thank you!
Did MoO just come back from France before the competition lol?
Morning of Owl is the best crew I have ever seen
Man, both crews were dope. But Morning of Owl just had so much energy, loved their positivity and enjoyment. Their energy just spreads and rubs off on you. And their dancers have a lot of upper body movement with their hands, which is a real strong point, cause a lot of bboys just do footwork but don't integrate the rest of the body. MOO really dance and feel the music and just groove with it.
oh wow, I like how transparent everything is!
thanks Dyzee, and everyone else worked hard to make this a reality!
quem e vc? e que diabos vc ta falando?
Such a powerful battle! Definitely a battle worthy of champions! Good job indeed to both crews!
Morning of Owl took the win, winning Foundation, Execution, and Battle judges against Fusion MC who only won the Dynamic judge.
Even though MOO has a lower total score, they have enough points in the right places to win the three categories over FMC's one.
*Note: The win is not based on total score, it is based on "Judges'" aka category scores. Thus, 3 to 1 for MOO
I'm happier now :)
jesus.. the music... it's not a bar man
That is the most buff short korean guy I have ever seen. He is legit.
9:28 부터 음악이랑 춤 맞물려질때 진짜 존나 멋지다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Hey, thinking about it is cool. Because if your thinking, your learning, and learning should never come to an end.
Hey Strife, did only 5 crews participate in Boty Korea this year? Or did you not get some of them on tape
Dude that was a crazy battle , awesome
the one you have is mixed? the one from this video? or the one you have is without the break
Well, the lit up icons represent the categories where the crew has more points IN TOTAL. They count up all the points from previous rounds and then compare it. So it's not just from the previous round, but the total from every round. In round 2 they still had more in total for the last 3 categories but thanks to their high score in originality, they also had more points total in that category.
Morning of Owl needs new moves
나 CODE팬인데 이 영상은 진짜 CODE 한대 쥐어박고싶다
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 나도 CODE 팬인데... 이영상보니까 좀그러네요 ㅋㅋ 그래도 코드 가 짱임
@@user-gs2uz1cr8m 퓨전엠씨 매너 드럽게 없네 ㄷ....
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ저도 코드팬인데 너무 공격적이네요 ㅋ
공격적일 수밖에 없음 진짜 상대편 똥매너임
Yep only 5 crews were competing for the trip to BOTY International
My Favorite crew Morning of owl.
Ahhh so see if I have this right (also based on Strifes reply above)
Throughout the battles as each round finishes, the lit categories and middle numbers represent the categories that that particular crew are succeeding in and not actual points per round. So the middle numbers can never exceed 5, am i right?
Morning of Owl is one of the most creative Bboys crew ever. They remind us that bboying is first of all a DANCE, not just a sequence of dull "power moves". If all we want are power moves, let us just watch amateur gymasts. Many Bboys foreget that bboying is first of all a physical and emotional interpretation of music. Creativity over technique! Anyway, another extremely creative group just won BOTY 2012 ... Vagabonds...It would have been mind-blowing to watch Morning of Owl v Vagabonds.
ok, i didn't know the judgment is based on the category score. thanks to strife tv for the video!!!
Yep that's right. the numbers in the middle represents how many categories the crews have more points in. and since there are only 5 categories, you can only get a maximum of 5 category score
La batalla del año de lokos hermano 🙌
Most Korean crews have many of their main members who are now drafted to the army. Believe me, they are all interested in BOTY, but even if they win, half their members can't go. Jinjo is going to have to go to the army soon, maybe next year. Morning of Owl has been missing for two years because of the army, but has finally completed their mandatory service, that is why you see them back in action.
4:00 OHHHHHHH
What's the name of the track? That's hardcore!
Man that was a close battle both crews were sick
It was a pain in the ass to see Fusion MC interrupting so many times, but both sides had their faults.
Great battle.
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love the energy and creativity. 8D
What a close battle LOVING IT!!!!
Brilliant dancing from both teams!
CODE 평소랑 다른느낌이네 뭐지했는데
옛날영상이였네ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
요즘은 옛날보다 즐기는모습이 더하고
여유로워진듯
So happy to see that BOTYs using the OUR system now!! :D
In the hope of not being hated on, can someone explain this system to me. I get it all, and from what I understand it works like this:
Each round they see who got the highest scores in each category. The more categories you score higher in, each equals 1 point.
At the end of round 1, Fusion MC have 3 points, and 3 categories lit up.
At the end of round 2, FMC scored higher in Originality and Dynamics, however 4 categories are lit up, and their score is 4...(continued...)
great battle!
thanks for breaking it down
Any idea why the number is so low and why there is no USA qualifier scheduled?
i was there and MORNING of OWL was mad hype haha I don't videos are able to capture that aspect
What the song start about 5:55 ? Thanks for reply my question !
Hey guys i dont know bboy well can you explain what does that means at 17:38??
And who is the winner??
Judge score FM < MOO
Total FM > MOO
Music at 6 min. >> BLACK VELVET - TROPICANA
Is just my opinion or most of times BOTY korea levels seems higher than BOTY international level? XD :S
oh man, would anyone happen to know the first song of the battle? it would be very much appreciated.
If the categories are tied, then the numbers of points you got are important. Morning of Owl would lose if they had just 1 category and Fusion MC also 1.
Categories -> total points you get
song in 10:45 is so dope !!! ; )
Can I get the name of this song?
I would be grateful ; )
i feel like Fusion MC won.
I didn't pay attention till now, that it is really scored on how many categories you win, not on the number of points you got.
If the OUR System had the winner based on Total Points, then it would take away the freedom for how a bboy or crew wants to express their style. That would mean that every time someone goes in, they would need to do everything just to score high. This isn't how original cypher battles are, where you can choose to do whatever you want, and thus why OUR System is based on winning more perspectives instead of total points
do you have the song?? can you give to me this song for mail.?? or msn bro??
Winner is based on # of categories taken, In this case moo took 3 while fusion only took 1
Morning of owl look good at aggressive mode. Damn Awesome 👏
but then again even though they have more quantity(winning more badges)means that they won them because of the better quality they showed in those categories. goddammit mindfuck
Holy fuck. MOO def came prepared for fusion mc. After watching those boys in the Battle Chelles pro and seeing them stomp havikoro with their commandos and routines MOO was not gonna go out the same way. Jesus. That was an amazing battle.
does anyone knows what's the name of the second track?
song starts at 4:02? what is it? Please!!!
what is the name of the first song??
Insane battle.
Morning of Owl should not be underestimated.
why only five crews participated? where is Rivers, Gamblerz, Jinjo? thx
So what aspect of judging was poor in this battle?
...continued:
FMC have 4 lit categories at end of round 2, but only scored higher in 2 of those categories. And their total was 4 at the end of round 2...Why is this?
I take it the SCORE is only showing what they received in the previous round.
I like this system but maybe the video editors made mistakes when representing the scores (no offence intended)
I think they should black and white the icons after each round, that or I need to shut up and just accept I'm dumb :P
6 minutes music name please respond
TRUE BATTLE OF THE YEAR
DOPE BATTLES....
BIG,BIG,BIG MORNING OF OWL!!! SALUDOS Y RESPETOS DE (SOUL UCHIHA CREW) DESDE CUSCO -PERU SON LOS MEJORES!!!
whats up with the guy from morning of owl thats all in black with like the fishers cap always getting in the others routines and yelling for everything..
Fusion MC should've def. won that.
I wish the system had objective reasoning for when crews go out of line.
I like Moo, but that was a bit much, and they definitely should've had some penalty for interruptions
i searched up the song on itunes and its the song but it doesnt have the break thats playing in this video, unless im incorrect. does yours have the break of the song with it also?
Just when I thought Korea reached another level..here in this vid they reached an even higher level. Too intense!
Morning Owl, how do you beat that. Oh we're not doing enough for you? Here's Bboy. Thanks for letting us win, kbye.
Such a close battle!
So the O.U.R system now is implemented in BOTY too.
the results are making me think the system is flawed .. morning of owl won with 3 badges over 1 of course, but at the same time fusion mc has a higher total score. just somethin that made me think
I'd love to see Vagabonds vs Morning of Owl in final at the BOTY international! peace.
name of the songs???
3:27 I wonder if anyone would call him a biter for doing that? Elsewhere did that in out for fame 2002 san diego. I've seen the battle hundreds of times, but I doubt he bit that move, thats just something two people can think of.
What's the first song?
Because the judges new that he didn't actually crash and all his moves were original LOL. It's not up to the crews to decide the scores hahaha
What's with all the pointing?
Nice to see the underdogs be in the finals for once. :)
this was a very dope battle. morning of owl went in the hardest
not really.they are just different styles.KOREA: only tricks,rountines,...USA: style is every things+ flava+music is the key...(my opinion)
Who's the winner?
This battle was disgusting! Both sides brought pure heat!
this is orginal track . this is mixed version i think
i think gamblerz and jinjo are either touring or just hella sessioning and some of rivers were in korean assasins but also i think its cuz most of the bboys are prolly doin military right now but i cant say forsures
13:48 13:58 16:51 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋLOL
I feel like only Pocket is the respectful one. lol and He's well respected as well. The rest of the crew is really.. ehh.. in my perspective. Still a dope battle.
yeah i see, i like it this whole new thing but i just cant help but think about it.
musics names please
such a good battle!!!!!!!!
holy shit, morning of owl, jinjo level commando making skills
Guy at 2:30 ish is just straight up hard to watch... Wtf is he doing
Kei Kobayashi - Re-Funk Samba
what happend to Jinjo?
Rest of crew? I dont think his crew was offensive... havent you seen how Fusion MC screwed up Issue´s set ....? even TWICE? I think Fusion MC have no respect in this battle..not M.O.O