Siegfried dispersion ellipse without accuracy upgrade at 19 km is less than half the size of Gneisenau with one... how crazy is that? Additionally, Siegfried has 0.25 better sigma!
my fav siegfried moment was hitting a half-hp-back-capping-speed-boosting marceau at just over TWENTY KILOMETERS and securing a kraken! one of my fav ships of all time!
Seigfreid and agir at one point: we are secondary cruisers! Wargaming: proceeds to take secondary build german cruisers away and gives them to an Italian cruiser instead later on.
Agreed, very sad... given they were premiums giving them accurate secondaries shouldn't have been a problem... but nope only the Napoli gets really good secondaries now and even the French tech tree heavy cruiser secondaries are much more accurate than the German cruiser secondaries... Schroder was supposed to have accurate secondaries but they are just equivalent to GK secondaries without the commander skills buff, much less than Napoli and less accurate even than French heavy cruisers who get Schlieffen base accuracy... when Seigfried and Agir were released they were balanced around their secondaries, they are still fun to play, but ineffective unless you get lucky with players who show broadside and do not know how to dodge.
@Mithril_Antimarr Schroder secondarys only made up partially for the lack of accuracy is the number of guns, but the lack of dispersion makes long-range hits almost impossible on agile destroyers.
I currently work at the German Pavillon in Epcot, Disneyworld, Fl. The musical performers in our Biergarten Restaurant there play this first song from the beginning of the video sometimes in their show. Now I will never ever again be able to hear it without seeing the Siegfried in my inner eye and thinking of king yuro Kekw.
Same with Iwami, its fun as hell when other ppl do not know that it has freakin Shimakaze torps :D And usually they dont know this, or realize when its too late for them.
This kinds of videos were started by Sliphantom a while ago for World of tanks. We can say he was the father of this type of parody reviews. Interestingly his first video was with the same music for the tank ”Lowe”.
Me clicking up this video, and instantly get visions of a Löwe dancing on the screen and a suspiciously similar-sounding voice calling it the Goldman Sacks of World of Tanks
@@BugattiONE666 I see a future Yuro video going "The Gneisenau is a tier 7 german battleship which has had its reputation completely tarnished by that sonovabitch Jingles"
When this was added to the Research Bureau, I honestly couldn't understand why it was listed as a Cruiser, since by all accounts it's basically a Gneisenau with less armor. Seeing this clip made me realize it must've been the idea of some WG employee who liked playing that, but wanted to give it some actually good dispersion (I still think it's dumb how German ships consistently have lousy accuracy, considering they had very good fire-control systems and even radar.... Where's that historical accuracy they're always bringing up?).
Ah, the great Franzl Lang. You often use some terrific music, which often also stands out as particularly interesting or quirky for various reasons, a good example being the modern take on a Nina Hagen song. As someone who sang quite a lot years ago, the yodelling technique is really fascinating, and of course Lang was astonishingly great at it.
Absolutely brilliant video Yuro! Love the longer format (= more Yuro entertainment in one package) and it continues your mission of clouding my choices as to which ship I should spend my hard earned resources on. Thanks so much for taking the effort to entertain us….. even my Missus had a belly laugh at your German engineering jokes…. We had a Merc and got rid of it because all the fancy stuff kept breaking.
@@bigdata2783 you might be thinking of Agir, Agir and Siegfried are the same ship just with different guns, Agir and Siegfried had the same secondaries, but Agir having x1 more turret on each side. while in WIP Agir's secondaries were nerfed to uselessness (WeeGee claimed it was OP, but it wasnt, it turned Agir to trash overnight) but Siegfried kept its secondaries, then the Commander Skill Rework came along and removed the ability for Cruisers to take Secondary Battery related skills. Siegfried was a fun and capable ship, and well balanced. Alaska on the otherhand.....
Siegfried still averages among the highest average damages and WRs of all cruisers in the game *after* it lost the ability to dissolve things at close range, and this is after 3 years of powercreep. The ship was monstrously overpowered on release, and you know it.
@@bigdata2783 When it’s their toy, it’s balanced and you should git gud. When they’re the one being exploited, it’s OP. That’s how the playerbase sees balance, and why WG pays no attention to them.
I think Siegfried's gimmick is the ship package itself (guns, armor, torps, secondary), but the Russian Siegfried's gimmick is the consumable combination. The point of the Russian Siegfried is the combination of on-board commisar DCP ,AND the planned economy heal, which helps you deal with HE spammers better, since you can care less about fire. Yes, it doesn't get armor, which make you lose the late game brawling and carry potential, but you get the gimmick speed boost to just don't get hit. Also you get to use Kutznezov on the Russian one, so... WeeGee was making a ship game when they released Siegfried, but they shifted to making an MMORPG when releasing Sevastopol.
Imo, the Russian Siegfried in its entire consumables gimmick would be better if its a battleship instead. It will get access to damage tanking skills, perhaps even workable armor (that can tank 431mm shells at least) and can be played like a very mobile BB (Think Georgia). Currently it has no reason to be picked over Siegfried because its just the same ship, but a tier higher. You're not wrong with WG turning the game to MMORPG still lol
Arguably Sevastopol's long heal CD combined with limited DCP charges can make you die even faster if you can't break contact since it just dies to focus fire if you're forced to burn through DCP charges whilst waiting for the damn heal to go off CD
@@annoyance.2583 There was a moment where I'm thinking an edit in Max0r's style but I think its just easier to ask him so I get to spare my braincells.
Well technically there's Odin build process video but I want a Odin play video too. She's such a pretty ship (ain't talking weeb stuff) compared to boring looks of Scharnhorst all the way to GrosKur/Schlieffen
suprisingly, I find agir and soon to be seigfreid to be pretty comfortable ships. Just play at mid-range and as long as nobody he spams you, you can rack some pretty high damage.
Agir and Siegfried are basically uptierred and reclassified versions of the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. Except the glaring issue of not being able to do a secondary build on them
4:44 And this is how I realized I've been putting C H O N K Y armor on my cruisers in UAD. I heard "Armor belt must be as thicc as gun caliber on battleships", and then forgot the "on battleships" part, leaving my cruisers with 8 - 10" of armor.
Hey, the floating brick heavy cruiser can work. 3*2 11" railguns on a short, fast hull and as much armour as the tech/weigh limit allows. Then again, I don't have the multi-tasking ability to control large fleets. So I try playing UAD like a 3rd Person version of WoWs, controlling a handful of the same ship type at most. The secret is to play as Austria and lean fully into über ships. Sometimes, don't ever bother with heavy cruisers - just design a low calibre battlecruiser.
Idk why but,when i said that i paid for his Pateron in the World of Warships discord server... he replied me with a sticker and said: "I'll release the video this week then"
In the e good old days exactly a few week before the actual release those ships were the king of secondary cruisers now we have the Schroder "stated" as a secondary cruiser, nice amount of secondary but lack the range and the accuracy needed to do the job. But despite all of that i still love Siegfried those guns have a unbelievable accuracy, can't deal with DDs as good as her twin but with cruisers, BBs and CV is great.
I still prefer Agir over Siegfried as it's more versitile. If i want to play as a long range sniper i'm taking Iwami and doing same job as Siegfried + being able to torp broadside BB's and other ships is a great thing, that many players seem to forget. Very fulfilling.
Good vid, makes me wish the ship wasn't butchered in its introduction to Legends. They moved Siegfried down to what is effectively tier 8, but in the process gave it battlecruiser dispersion and 25 mm extremities, so it can neither brawl nor snipe. And much like on PC, Legends doesn't have secondary skills for cruisers, and if that wasn't bad enough their range got cut to boot. So it's basically just a port queen.
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"This is how you build the E50", I give you that wise man, very accurate
Yes, i play my e50 this way. How do you know?
Bro that E 50 M, not E 50
When the video started, I instantly reminded some unicum play with E50. th-cam.com/video/DipDmIqVDMM/w-d-xo.html
@@nguyen_ndk E50M BOOOOOOOOO
Before that but I was pondering over why this ship sounded like it fit my play style so perfectly
God, I miss the E50 having the 1200hp engine
Siegfried = gneisenau with a usable gun
Legit af
He meant that the 380s on Siegfried have better accuracy then the same ones found on gneisenau.
biggest difference is Gneisenau has much better secondaries than the Siegfried... obv accuracy of main guns is also a diff
@NaniSore are you drunk or what?
Siegfried dispersion ellipse without accuracy upgrade at 19 km is less than half the size of Gneisenau with one... how crazy is that?
Additionally, Siegfried has 0.25 better sigma!
I was cracking up when I heard that.
my fav siegfried moment was hitting a half-hp-back-capping-speed-boosting marceau at just over TWENTY KILOMETERS and securing a kraken! one of my fav ships of all time!
amazing, i hate french speedboats
Do you still have the replay or am I far too late to ask that
Seigfreid and agir at one point: we are secondary cruisers!
Wargaming: proceeds to take secondary build german cruisers away and gives them to an Italian cruiser instead later on.
Agreed, very sad... given they were premiums giving them accurate secondaries shouldn't have been a problem... but nope only the Napoli gets really good secondaries now and even the French tech tree heavy cruiser secondaries are much more accurate than the German cruiser secondaries... Schroder was supposed to have accurate secondaries but they are just equivalent to GK secondaries without the commander skills buff, much less than Napoli and less accurate even than French heavy cruisers who get Schlieffen base accuracy... when Seigfried and Agir were released they were balanced around their secondaries, they are still fun to play, but ineffective unless you get lucky with players who show broadside and do not know how to dodge.
@Mithril_Antimarr Schroder secondarys only made up partially for the lack of accuracy is the number of guns, but the lack of dispersion makes long-range hits almost impossible on agile destroyers.
i'm here after the new devblog
Wat about graf zepplin?
@@swedish_sparrow460 that's just a cruiser with computer aiming and planes for spotting.
I currently work at the German Pavillon in Epcot, Disneyworld, Fl. The musical performers in our Biergarten Restaurant there play this first song from the beginning of the video sometimes in their show. Now I will never ever again be able to hear it without seeing the Siegfried in my inner eye and thinking of king yuro
Kekw.
Oy oy oy! Don't forget the bells guy
The song is in the video references
When you have Bismarck-sized Gneisenau but actually accurate and consistent =)
Brünhilde would like to have a word
Siegfried is fun when people don't know what it is. Then they get a 380mm surprise and wonder what happened.
Same with Iwami, its fun as hell when other ppl do not know that it has freakin Shimakaze torps :D
And usually they dont know this, or realize when its too late for them.
This kinds of videos were started by Sliphantom a while ago for World of tanks. We can say he was the father of this type of parody reviews. Interestingly his first video was with the same music for the tank ”Lowe”.
Damn i miss the time i enjoy WoT and regularly watch sliphantom for the lulz, and occasionally watch Foch for extra salt
Me clicking up this video, and instantly get visions of a Löwe dancing on the screen and a suspiciously similar-sounding voice calling it the Goldman Sacks of World of Tanks
Sliphantom anyone?
@@BugattiONE666
I see a future Yuro video going "The Gneisenau is a tier 7 german battleship which has had its reputation completely tarnished by that sonovabitch Jingles"
OG Sliphantom. Miss him though
@@Paveway-chan isn't that from the "M3 Lee" video?
THE MAN, THE MYTH , THE LEGEND !
Hell yeah !
I’ve been looking forward to this.
When this was added to the Research Bureau, I honestly couldn't understand why it was listed as a Cruiser, since by all accounts it's basically a Gneisenau with less armor.
Seeing this clip made me realize it must've been the idea of some WG employee who liked playing that, but wanted to give it some actually good dispersion (I still think it's dumb how German ships consistently have lousy accuracy, considering they had very good fire-control systems and even radar.... Where's that historical accuracy they're always bringing up?).
2:05 is pure gold
"DPM is so bad, it makes the Graf Spee look like the deal of the century."
Now that's what I call OOF.
Also thank you for that laugh Yuro.
Still hoping for an Incomparable Video.
same
Me too, but I would love to see an Ägir video
It is a heavy cruiser that can slap,and the accurate 380's do the job...unlike the sistership Agir
Are we just gonna ignore the Essex choking part at 10:20? i died of laughter there
Ah, the great Franzl Lang. You often use some terrific music, which often also stands out as particularly interesting or quirky for various reasons, a good example being the modern take on a Nina Hagen song.
As someone who sang quite a lot years ago, the yodelling technique is really fascinating, and of course Lang was astonishingly great at it.
He should have used some Wagner with a ship named like this.
I’ll never use 80% of these ships but still fun watching
2:05 is amazing @Yuro, and the cartoonish 'boom' over the Hood is the cherry on top.
Absolutely brilliant video Yuro! Love the longer format (= more Yuro entertainment in one package) and it continues your mission of clouding my choices as to which ship I should spend my hard earned resources on. Thanks so much for taking the effort to entertain us….. even my Missus had a belly laugh at your German engineering jokes…. We had a Merc and got rid of it because all the fancy stuff kept breaking.
I love your new editing strategy, keep up the good work!
Remember when Siegfried had useable Secondaries....Such an amazing bote, WarGaming has to ruin Everything!
Werent people whining about that ship being too op?
@@bigdata2783 you might be thinking of Agir, Agir and Siegfried are the same ship just with different guns, Agir and Siegfried had the same secondaries, but Agir having x1 more turret on each side. while in WIP Agir's secondaries were nerfed to uselessness (WeeGee claimed it was OP, but it wasnt, it turned Agir to trash overnight) but Siegfried kept its secondaries, then the Commander Skill Rework came along and removed the ability for Cruisers to take Secondary Battery related skills. Siegfried was a fun and capable ship, and well balanced. Alaska on the otherhand.....
Siegfried still averages among the highest average damages and WRs of all cruisers in the game *after* it lost the ability to dissolve things at close range, and this is after 3 years of powercreep. The ship was monstrously overpowered on release, and you know it.
@@bigdata2783 When it’s their toy, it’s balanced and you should git gud. When they’re the one being exploited, it’s OP. That’s how the playerbase sees balance, and why WG pays no attention to them.
@@bigdata2783 no? No one did
I think Siegfried's gimmick is the ship package itself (guns, armor, torps, secondary), but the Russian Siegfried's gimmick is the consumable combination.
The point of the Russian Siegfried is the combination of on-board commisar DCP ,AND the planned economy heal, which helps you deal with HE spammers better, since you can care less about fire. Yes, it doesn't get armor, which make you lose the late game brawling and carry potential, but you get the gimmick speed boost to just don't get hit.
Also you get to use Kutznezov on the Russian one, so...
WeeGee was making a ship game when they released Siegfried, but they shifted to making an MMORPG when releasing Sevastopol.
Imo, the Russian Siegfried in its entire consumables gimmick would be better if its a battleship instead. It will get access to damage tanking skills, perhaps even workable armor (that can tank 431mm shells at least) and can be played like a very mobile BB (Think Georgia). Currently it has no reason to be picked over Siegfried because its just the same ship, but a tier higher.
You're not wrong with WG turning the game to MMORPG still lol
Arguably Sevastopol's long heal CD combined with limited DCP charges can make you die even faster if you can't break contact since it just dies to focus fire if you're forced to burn through DCP charges whilst waiting for the damn heal to go off CD
Your humor is so fast and quick I have to watch at half speed.
Now visit Maxor’s channel, comeback here and apologize to Yuro for comparing him to AD/HD sufferer
@@annoyance.2583 There was a moment where I'm thinking an edit in Max0r's style but I think its just easier to ask him so I get to spare my braincells.
@@annoyance.2583 I didn't compare Yuro to anyone. So maybe reading comprehension isn't your strong suite?
2:28 honestly didn't think you would talk about the documents from War Thunder lmao
Yuro just release a video just before I sleep, absolute brilliant. I'll watch it again after Sahur.
Seigfried is probably one of the best ships. just perfect.
11:14 its just wargaming balancing your torpedobeat
Ayo how is yo comment 12h old 💀
@@Saddy231 no idea
@@Saddy231 Some patreon privilege
I mean, you opened with the fucking Yodelkönig there. If Franzl Lang is on one of your videos, I'm on board with this.
1:09 Suddenly, *achievements everywhere*
Man! This video had me stitches! Thanks Yuro for the great video!
"This is how you build the E-50"
That one got me good
DO A ODIN VIDEO From:Bloodhardt
Well technically there's Odin build process video but I want a Odin play video too. She's such a pretty ship (ain't talking weeb stuff) compared to boring looks of Scharnhorst all the way to GrosKur/Schlieffen
this is the best kind of content on the internet!
Almost forgot my monthly hit of weeb, offbrand music and memes on the backdrop of a bad Russian game.
I'm looking forward to this :D
Yuro: this German ship is accurate
World of tanks players: yeah sure we’ve heard of that “German accuracy” before
Lol.... you videos, the music, comments.... epic, lol... I enjoy them a lot, sooo funny.
Really enjoyed the longer video
I will never forget my very first Siegfried game. Game starts, I see a Riga at max range, shoot and dev strike him 100 to 0 xD
excellent, wonderful sense of humour, thankyou for your continuing content
I waited so long for a siegfried video. Thanks god
I was the Sun Yat Sen at 2:50 and can confirm I was a paid actor
“Pain” over a pic of bread god my sides are hurting
I know John Wick is elite killer, but I don't know what he's a elite captain too!
at this point i lost count of how many Soviet/German supercruiser/BB
Oh my lord, thank you for this! I laughed so hard, could not sleep at night.
suprisingly, I find agir and soon to be seigfreid to be pretty comfortable ships. Just play at mid-range and as long as nobody he spams you, you can rack some pretty high damage.
I didn't thought I would see PA-san and Seika from Bocchi the Rock here, it made me happy :D
It wouldn't be a true German ship, if your internet doesn't cut out mid game XD
Eat every torpedo to try and be in a Yuro video, got it
lol Great vid Yuro! If I ever get enough RB for a ship, it will be this one.
I remember being in a Georgia and seeing angled Siegfried come around i just shot under front turret and blew him up
I remember how I blasted a Georgia in my Incomparable from bow in citadels 😂😂
1:42. This image is funny because Dönitz is the one that proposed more U-boats.
Brot that shot on Hector was pretty funny knowing Yuro's internet died inside right there lmao
Never disappoints!
Been waiting so long for you to do the Siegfried or Ägir and finally. Thanks a lot. Pls could you do the Napoli or Venezia next?
this vs the agir is quite a funny comparison between new and old
I miss the old secondaries
Agir and Siegfried are basically uptierred and reclassified versions of the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. Except the glaring issue of not being able to do a secondary build on them
4:44 And this is how I realized I've been putting C H O N K Y armor on my cruisers in UAD. I heard "Armor belt must be as thicc as gun caliber on battleships", and then forgot the "on battleships" part, leaving my cruisers with 8 - 10" of armor.
Hey, the floating brick heavy cruiser can work. 3*2 11" railguns on a short, fast hull and as much armour as the tech/weigh limit allows.
Then again, I don't have the multi-tasking ability to control large fleets. So I try playing UAD like a 3rd Person version of WoWs, controlling a handful of the same ship type at most.
The secret is to play as Austria and lean fully into über ships. Sometimes, don't ever bother with heavy cruisers - just design a low calibre battlecruiser.
"Here's how you build the E-50."
Spall liner and large repair kit?
Speed boost and we are ready to ram everything
WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED, 2 UPLOADS IN UNDER A MONTH i think
Idk why but,when i said that i paid for his Pateron in the World of Warships discord server... he replied me with a sticker and said: "I'll release the video this week then"
@@AdmiralBloodEarth huh, it’s that easy. time to forcibly make him upload with a months worth of rent in patreon
Love your content btw
I'm sure many people just want to take ur metall fish. It's an honor
"Gneisenau" maybe we should send this to jingles...
My contenment is immeasurable, and my day is made.
Funny you mention the Illinois, trying to decide between Illinois and Siegfried right now.
Do we got Siegfried and an Ägir...soo Schröder only is missing :)
me when kremlin guide
idk if it needs a guide in this channel BUUUUUUUT
An actually useful how-to? Sign me up!
Just magical.
In the e good old days exactly a few week before the actual release those ships were the king of secondary cruisers now we have the Schroder "stated" as a secondary cruiser, nice amount of secondary but lack the range and the accuracy needed to do the job. But despite all of that i still love Siegfried those guns have a unbelievable accuracy, can't deal with DDs as good as her twin but with cruisers, BBs and CV is great.
"German guns are calibrated to hit British ships" man I find that fact very accurate XD
Looking for my first tech ship. The music sold me.
I love how it is practically an E50/E50M but a ship
@@novanoir8309 yup!
Yoo my man. He still uploads😂❤
This video just makes me want to play gneisenau again for some reason
Gneisenau with guns that hit something
I was about to get the Siegfried but ofc the Illinois turned up... Good vid anyway
kita ikuyo username... cultured
unicum guide to the lowe type music
Seggsfried?
Yuro's humour is suspiciously close to drachinifel's.....
This dude mention about HMS Glowworm, nice.
„Wasn das für‘n Kombi???“ 😂
Music: How to Löwe intensifies
:D
It's been a couple of years now Yuro, i still haven't forgotten what you did to me..
You know I agree the Siegfried is basically a E50 but on Sea
2:25 I feel called out
Love these vids. Any possibility for a Vermont vid?
I still prefer Agir over Siegfried as it's more versitile. If i want to play as a long range sniper i'm taking Iwami and doing same job as Siegfried + being able to torp broadside BB's and other ships is a great thing, that many players seem to forget. Very fulfilling.
I have two watch twice but yes a new Yuro vid
Excellent stuff
Do a guide on the Mighty *Massachusetts!*
Mate, if you need a guide on the single most OP ship in the game, you have a skill issue.
Next Music idea for German Warship Video, Heino - Was wollen wir trinken (7 Tage Lang) (JF Jake Bounce Remix)
When Red Yeet V starring Ushakov
6:01 "wait. that's illegal."
Waited for this ❤
Good vid, makes me wish the ship wasn't butchered in its introduction to Legends.
They moved Siegfried down to what is effectively tier 8, but in the process gave it battlecruiser dispersion and 25 mm extremities, so it can neither brawl nor snipe.
And much like on PC, Legends doesn't have secondary skills for cruisers, and if that wasn't bad enough their range got cut to boot.
So it's basically just a port queen.
Does we have actual information about dispersion? It's still have very good accuracy with high sigma but i don't know dispersion on legends
Nice name, Kokomi