Combat of the Thirty, A Tale of Chivalry from 1351
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- In 1341, John III, the Duke of the sovereign Duchy of Brittany, died, leaving some mixed instructions as to who was supposed to take his place. The war that would come afterward was closely related to the early stages of the Hundred Years War, and would lead to one of the Middle Ages’ best displays of chivalry. The History Guy recalls the “Combat of the Thirty”. It is history that deserves to be remembered.
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If anyone is interested in a sort of deconstruction of chivalry coupled with a description of what it SHOULD be, The Once and Future King by T.H. White (though fiction) handles it quite well. I really do enjoy your videos and I always learn something interesting.
Still, we open the door, the thank you, the please, the smile, the giving of place to the elderly, the lady. There still is chivalry in our modern times? Oh yes.
I made the mistake of standing for a young woman some years back and was given a mouthful of affirmative action vitriol. I'm glad my mum taught me some manners.
@@chuckh5999 You'll be okay, sounds like you did the right thing, so who gives a shit and move on.
I and my children and grandchildren are all purveyors of the niceties, courtesies as a service to our neighbors and our posterity, as it should be.
I would love to see some Texas history and native american history. I heard that the Scottish people had high trust with native american and intermarried with them. I would love to see some stories about that
The same in Oregon including hiding Native American extended family from US Army, the Umpqua Tribe's casino is called 7 feathers after the 7 Native American extended families hid by their Scottish and Irish relatives from forced relocation.
Germans as well if i recall correctly.
It was the native American tribes that sent money over to Ireland during the great potato famine. Many of the Irish came over then. So that is one reason they were friendly with the native Americans. Unfortunately, Ireland had plenty of food. It was the corrupt political system that caused the famine. You know, kind of like the reason we are dealing with a Chinese plandemic.
Gen. Sam Houston was Scottish and did pretty good with them. Incidentally, ALL Houstons are from Houston, Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland. A little town not too far from Glasgow.
The progenitor of the clan was a Scoto-Norman Knight by the name of Hugh de Padunin. He was not yet a knight when he was fighting in France with king Malcolm IV. As the king was literally being carried off the field by the enemy, our illustrious hero ran up, slew the captors and scooped up the king taking him in the other direction. After the battle the king knighted him and gave him lands in present day Scotland. He later became a Templar knight and went to fight in the first crusades, dying in Palestine. With the inheritance rules of the day, all his possessions became those of his first son's who later became a knight in his own right. Not having a surname, king Malcolm gave him the name Houston. Mainly because he was Hugh's son. (not a very imaginative king, was he?) He also gave him the family motto, IN TIME. I am sure you can figure out how he came up with that one too. As it turns out, I am 6th cousins, several times removed (generations apart) with the good Gen. Sam Houston. And the rest, as they say, is history.
@@trombone113 thank you for sharing that. We are most likely cousins as my family came from the same area of Scotland. Actually they came from a place called carruthmuir which is literally a ten min drive from Houston. My people were also early settlers of Texas who coexisted with the native Americans. I have been told that we have native Americans who we married into. It is an interesting history that deserves to be remember :)
@@trombone113 Or not dealing with it.
Another great video, as always HC! I wanted to suggest a topic for a future video possibly, if I could be so bold. The topic in question is Salt. It seems to be in the background of all of human history, but its importance is rarely discussed or emphasized. Thank you for the work you and your wife do, you're the best!
"Now stand aside worth adversary", "Tis but a scratch!"
"You stupid bastard, you've got no arms left!"
I fart in your general direction........
"A knight's a sword with a horse. The rest, the vows and the sacred oils and the lady's favors, they're silk ribbons tied round the sword. Maybe the sword's prettier with ribbons hanging off it, but it will kill you just as dead." -- Sandor Clegane (NOT a knight, thankyouverymuch)
One of the problems with chivalry, as with many social codes, is the ideals on which it was founded ossified into ritual, show, and a sick sort of compulsion. You see like degeneration in the Code Duello and other 'honor' systems around the world (endless vendetta, or where a family murders their own daughter because a neighbor saw her talking to a boy.) The anonymous poem "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight", written not long after this video's pointless melee, is both a study in the ideals of high chivalry and serious puncturing of its self-righteousness. Young Gawain is, along with Percival, among the purest representitives of that apex of mythic chivalry: the Court of King Arthur (as recounted seven centuries after putative events, but whatevs). Yet he fails to slay the 'monster.' He flirts with his host's wife. And at the last test, his nerve fails him. His chivalry is more style than substance, and he's too busy thumbing thru his copy of "How to Be a Proper Knight (3rd ed.)" to behave like a normal human being, or to realize he's being played for a fool.
The chessboard is incorrect! On a properly set up board, there should be a white square at the bottom right corner as the player sits facing it.
"White on the right" is the term for remembering how to set up a board. You're correct Squid!
I noticed that, too. He did remember to put the queen on the square of her own color, which means the positions of the queen and king are reversed.
I'll remember that! The only chess I play is against my daughter and I try to get the board set up correctly. Still, our games are fraught with grievous heckling and a hard-fought battle of ineptitude to see if we can finish before sundown. Or before we get tired and want to go do something else.
@@catjudo1 try a game called Battle Chess on Steam. It originally came out in 1988 and the pieces actually fight on the board, long before Wizard Chess was a twinkle in Rowling's eye.
@@NorrisHistoryCorner Oh that sounds like fun! I used to go to the Renaissance Fair in Dallas and they had the live pieces played by actors and they'd fight each other too. Occasionally the wrong piece would win too, like a pawn dispatching a knight and the two sides would start fussing. Those were good memories.
My wife and I enjoy your quick history lessons. Have you ever done a segment on Yellow Fever in the USA?
Dear Mr THG,
A couple notes on correct pronunciation of a couple of words--
First, is the word 'chivalry', and all of its derivative words. Two areas of focus on this word--
You often, in this piece, put emphasis on the 2nd syllable, 'val'. The only emphasis for the word, 'chivalry', and any of it's derivative words, should always be put only on the 1st syllable, 'chiv'. When doing otherwise, you sound like you are unfamiliar with the word.
2nd point is that the 2nd syllable should always be pronounced using the 'uh' sound for the 'a' in 'val', as you would pronounce the 'e' in the word 'the'. This is the correct manner to pronounce this word when speaking the English language. Otherwise, you come across as sounding unacquainted with word 'chivalry', and it's derivatives.
A second word you mispronounced is the name of the French city of Nantes. Both in French and in English, the correct pronunciation of this city of Brittany, (in French, la Bretagne, or Breton), is 'Naunt'. In neither language are the letters 'es' at the back end of the word pronounced.
You assumed they should be pronounced like the word 'ace'. Those two last letters in 'Nantes' are silent. They are used because Nantes, itself, is a feminine word.
Unless a word in French has either an 'accent aigu' (which is above a letter 'e', and stants upwared from left to right), or an 'accent grave' (where there is also an 'e', and an accent mark above it that slopes downward from left to right, making the same sound as the first 'e' in the word 'ever'), should an 'e', in the French language, be pronounced that way).
Most 'e' letters in French are typically pronounced like the 'au' is pronounced in the word 'haunt'.
I appreciate your shows. You don't mispronounce words very often. But these 'faux pas' ('false' or missteps) jumped out at me.
Hope you don't mind getting educated a little, as you educate me and many others.
Keep up the great work!
Jumping on that horse and riding it into a melee 100% seems like cheating ..
@@YG-fm2wv I got to 6:41 and I thought, why in the hell am I watching this. If ANYBODY thinks they have it hard now, that is brutal.
Somehow, a single pikeman should've undone him.
We got our payback at Agincourt, the French were not so clever then!
@GeneSun There were no 25 pound battle hammers. Just saying
I thought the rules had been set , if horses were allowed, they should have started mounted
"Camelot!"
"Camelot!"
"Camelot!"
"It's only a model."
"Shhh..."
Some call me..Tim
Lancelot is a busboy
"If I went 'round sayin' I was a emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd lock me away!"
@@somethingwolfish1872 ni
@@somethingwolfish1872 You mean to tell me that our system of government is based on some watery tart passing out swords.
I would recommend the books "Sir Nigel" and the "White Company" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Sir Nigel actually features this combat of thirty. The age of chivalry was peopled by psychopathically violent people of all classes but especially the knightly class whose oath included an instruction to keep the peasants in order. The books are well researched and the characters are realistically rendered by Conan Doyle
I think that's a rather unfair and frankly simplistic way to put it. Perpetuating the myth of the "Dark Ages" seems like an irresponsible approach to history.
Been loving your videos, never had an interest in history, thank you for stoking it! Stay healthy
Lest we think that thoughts of the "ideal" are not important:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,..." Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of Independance
Greg Taylor ...and yet: Thomas Jefferson enslaved over 600 human beings throughout the course of his life. 400 people were enslaved at Monticello; the other 200 people were held in bondage on Jefferson’s other properties. At any given time, around 130 people were enslaved at Monticello. Actions speak louder than words. All higher motives, ideals, conceptions, sentiments in a man are of no account if they do not come forward to strengthen him for the better discharge of the duties ... Words without actions are the assassins of idealism.
Far from ideal, this is one of the grand hypocrisies of history made grander by a nation of prating hypocrites canonising it.
@@6862ptc cry me a river. You obviously have never studied history outside of what you wish to cherry pick to advance your cause. This means you are either ignorant or an agitprop.
@@transvestosaurus878 says the thing that can't figure out which bathroom to use LMAO!
@@6862ptc having the temerity to write such words as a concrete "ideal" to be displayed to ALL the world not just to the USA, which Jefferson wholly believed would rise above the depravity of his own age to become a beacon for the world. These words are to show everyone that supreme executive power is derived from a mandate from the masses. Jefferson is not a perfect human being, none of us are, but without the ideals set forth by his words, this nation may never have freed anyone, worse still without the US on a global scale who knows what could have happened during... pick any war, where the US's involvement led to a defeat of the enemy, Jefferson is to be remembered as an imperfect man who helped show this nation the "IDEAL" to which we should all strive to reach. You bringing up only the bad things in his life so as to discredit his works his in no way better than individuals who bring up only the good as means of bolstering his points, we are all failures to live up to the ideals set forth by our founders and by ourselves, anyone who believes otherwise is blind...
Great quote at the end.
If we don't look forward and romanticize about a better future, we don't instill in the future generation that dreams is possible and attainable.
I think we've come a decent way since.
THG this seems to be a great lead to a history of why Dexter knights were paid well and the significance of the Bar Sinister on heraldic symbols.
Wish we still handled some issues in this country this way! When men were men and honor stood for something. Unfortunately in the academic community today history is not taught as well as other subjects they way I was taught 50 years ago. But they call it progress?? It shows that they didn't learn from our prior history as I'm watching what is happening here now across America today. Yes history does repeat!
LOL!
Honor never stood for anything, blades stood. If any academic portrays history as a mythic past, an idealized vision, they would be doing a diservice to us all. Look forward and not backwards, reject nostalgia, embrace progress.
@@LuizAlexPhoenix wow you are the product of that academic principle I see. If you don’t remember the past you will relive it. And honor is everything without it you are blind to the world and it’s meaning. Without honor your nothing.
Imagine being the health and safety officer for a tourney 🤕 Losing an eye is the least of your problems. 👁️
What do you mean, "It hasn't been risk assessed?"
5:15 "The dukes of Brittany held the duchy as a *fief*" That word is pronounced 'feef', not 'fife'. A fife is a military flute.
A knight in shining armour is a man that has never tested his metal.
Nice pun.
I'm not american and english is my 4th language. So I'm sorry for the missing U. Nevertheless, you have missed the whole point.
@Dave A. Now you're messing with me. 😂
@@edvin884 armor is American English, armour is British so don't sweat it. Same with color/colour
@@spikespa5208 surely a jest.
Modern women complain: "Chivalry is dead!" Modern men answer: "Yes, & you killed it..." X-D
they are probably peasants and not ladies so it wouldn't help them anyway.
Yeah, first of all, your comment is really sexist and full of crap. Second of all, chivalry should be dead. Read chivalric literature and you'll find that chivalry justified rape. King Arthur regularly rapes women throughout those texts. So, the modern man should actually say, "yes, it's dead and trust me it's for the best," rather than your uneducated response.
Classic chivalry could be seen as recently as 1943 when Luftwaffe pilot Hans Stigler refused his order to shoot down a stricken B-17 heading towards the Dutch coast. He chased it down with every intention to do so but held back upon seeing the devastation earlier air attacks had made on the plane and crew. He tried to signal the pilot, one Charles Brown, to turn north for Sweden, much closer than England. The English pilot seemingly ignored him so he escorted the Fortress past coastal flak batteries and returned to base claiming to have administered the coup de gras out of sight. The story can be read in the book "A Higher Call".
And then there was the English soldier who had a bead on Hitler in WWI - but seeing he was wounded already, refrained from shooting .......
Hans Stigler and Charlie Brown found each other late in their lives. They considered themselves brothers.
We must never lose sight of our humanity despite differences of opinion or circumstances of birth.
Chivalry is not dead.
Chivalry is life.
Conclusion: Never let us English and French alone in a small room, there will be fisty-cuffs :-)
Or a rugby match!
There are three things, young gentlemen, which you are constantly to bear in mind. Firstly, you must always implicitly obey orders, without attempting to form any opinion of your own respecting their propriety. Secondly, you must consider every man your enemy who speaks ill of your king; and thirdly, you must hate a Frenchman, as you do the devil. : Admiral Nelson
Last time I was in a confined space with some Frenchmen the only damage was to my liver , oh and a few broken glasses .
@@sadwingsraging3044 And then Admiral Nelson got shot by a frenchman.
@@TheSergentChaotix By any chance did they put a statue of him in any French square?
Let's not forget chivalry would only apply to the upper class. They did whatever they wanted to commoners.
True. They were the middle class and rich kids.
@@kevinoverbeck4250 There was no middle class.
The church protected the poor.
@Helium Road the middle class are the bourgeoisie those who served a knight or lord as maybe men at arms, artisans. Or merchants who were not tied to the land as peasant levies.
GuyEndore which church? It divided. Sadly, most of the time the poor were exploited. The church provided for the poor through communal properties. www.britannica.com/topic/Christianity/Property-poverty-and-the-poor
You deserve to be commended just for making sense of the convoluted genealogy of the nobility from back then; phew! I would need to look at a graphic to even have a hope of following along. Great episode as always!
The war of Breton succession is not as complex as it sounds, as there were only two claimants for most of the conflict. The claimants were John Of Montfort, half brother of John III, and Charles of Blois, husband of Joan of Penthièvre, who was the daughter of John III's younger brother Guy de Penthièvre, who died in 1331. The war ended after the deaths of both John and Charles, and went to John's son, also named John, who became John IV, Duke of Birttany.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel as a Breton I have to say thank you for talking about this, unfortuantely along with language our history is being destroyed by the French government and never thought.
Can I suggest an episode please on William Marshall some consider him the greatest Knight.
♥ I loved your video's final observation about human nature, "...people have a desire to see the world not through the grim reality of what is, but through the shining example of what can be." In other words, people seek the solitary idea that Tim Robbins' character Andy, in the movie "The Shawshank Redemption," uttered in a single word: "Hope."
All great achievements, meaningful movements and monumental inventions throughout human history have been inspired by a boundless virtue of hope for something better. Although describing knightly chivalry, your final observation could have been applied just as easily to Joe Biden’s presidential nomination acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention just a few hours prior to you posting this video. Joe echoed such chivalrous ideals of light defeating darkness, of gentlemanly decency overcoming uncivilized barbarism, and of adherence to a code of moral conduct where fairplay guides the battle to an honorable victory.
I marvel in how history repeats itself at such pivotal moments.
-from Tom Pilling
An idea for future video: Van Eden and his Jewish refugee camp in Watha North Carolina. After WWII my grandfather who was on the USS Pennsylvania, bought the farm. I would be happy to send you photos of its current state
I am grateful I studyed (and, became good friends with) one of the world's top Chaucer scholors, Sumner Ferris. He taught at the small Pennsylvania State College of Pennsylvania (Yup, in California, PA).
An assignment to me (each student's was different) was a paper on Joan Plantaginet (Fair Maid Of Kent) and the origin of the Royal Order of the Garter. One of his suggestions was to use an older version of the Encyclopedia Britannica. For the rest, I used old texts on microfiche.
I can still recite the opening lines of Troilus and Criseyde.
Conrad Shull; a man after my own heart!
This story does make me wish wars were decided in a similar fashion. Great narration, great video.
Hello THG,
can you please do a couple episodes about the USS Thresher and USS Scorpion? These two terrible maritime disasters are very significant in US Naval history, and are also poorly understood today. Not only are the actual causes of the disasters barely known by the public, the time period itself is generally poorly understood and the results of the disasters barely receive mention.
USS Thresher and USS Scorpion were built at the height of the cold war utilizing the most modern technologies available at the time, under the direction of the father of the Nuclear Navy, Admiral Rickover. The two subs were very different, with the Scorpion built to exemplify underwater speed, while the Thresher was built for deep submergence depths and sound silencing. This was also at the beginning of the nuclear navy, when the traditions and expectations we nuclear sailors hold as ironclad today were just being established, and were frequently challenged by non-nuclear entities like admirals and congressmen. The actual disaster that befell USS Thresher is well-documented, just poorly presented in modern visual media. Most documentaries blame the disaster on "flooding", clearly unaware of the implications that word means to any qualified submariner. The nuclear side of the disaster is also rarely discussed, but had every bit as much of an impact on the outcome as the failure of the EMBT blow system. Reactor operating procedures at the time valued safety of the reactor above everything else, so when a scram occurred, the operators shut the main steam isolation valves to limit thermal stresses on the reactor due to plant cooldown while restarting the reactor. Without steam for the main engines or turbine generators, the ship (which normally drives itself to the surface with its main engines) was dependent on its EMBT blow system to return to the surface, and this failed when needed. I have seen various transcripts of the communications between USS Thresher and USS Skylark that day, but what stands out to me most is the final message. Official transcripts say "exceeding test depth", but one of my shipmates who met the underwater phone operator from the Skylark says the full message was "make peace with your maker, exceeding test depth". The actual collapse of the pressure hull occurred so quickly that the crewmen and shipyard workers onboard were dead before they knew it.
The search for the wreckage is quite a story as well. Because Thresher sank in deep water, they could not initially visit the wreck to see what happened, so initial investigations had little information to go on. The location of the Skylark was well-known, but a submarine can travel an awfully long distance as it sinks to the sea floor. Ocean currents, thermoclines, and other effects can throw off the search. They searched with the bathysaphe Trieste and deepwater towed cameras, and ultimately found the wreckage in over 8,000 feet of water. Changes from this disaster were extensive and long-lasting. The SubSafe program was a huge step up in manufacturing and maintenance standards for vital systems aboard submarines, and the nuclear community significantly revised their operating procedures after Admiral Rickover realized that a safe reactor on the bottom of the ocean wasn't that safe after all, resulting in the fast recovery startup and tactical situation clauses in most procedures. To this day, the USN still visits the wreckage of the Thresher and Scorpion every few years to ensure that the nuclear reactors onboard are not a threat to the environment.
As a submariner, I would very much appreciate a video covering the full, detailed story of the USS Thresher.
Like comparing "A Knight's Tale" to "Game of Thrones."
AKT had a satisfying ending...lol...unlike GoT
Funny enough Robert Baratheon plays the guy in A Knights Tale, I just realized that the last time I saw it
@Commentator - I hear you. :)
It was consistent throughout though and didn't take itself so seriously...So I can write it off as just popcorn entertainment ... unlike GoT, which I loved till I hated it for its last 2 seasons. I've never seen a franchise crap the bed so hard...it rivals Star Wars, Star Trek, and Dr Who in how to take an IP everyone likes and drives it straight off a cliff. (Just my opinion though, you are free to like or dislike whatever you want to)
Excellent idea Sir Lance! THG I second you! For the honor of Heidi!!!
We shall pass out the sword, mace, and pole axe at the next 2020 Republican and Democratic National Convention.
What better way to get this government to work for the people! HEAR HEAR! Why didn't sombody think of this before?
Most of the politicians do not have enough "honor" to stand and fight. And I am talking about both sides. But they do act the same as the olden days. Holding themselves as an elite and living off the workers of the land, and playing silly games. And as in the old days, it is being passed along bloodlines once again. Wasn't this the exact thing that our founding fathers were trying to get away from?
@@ronfullerton3162 It is precisely what the founding fathers warned us of. If anything the race to the bottom has sped up since the 2008 collapse.
This episode was no accident. THG was illustrating a hard lesson in the very essence of Direct Governmental Responsibility.
Chivalry is like "tacky " hard to define but you know it when you see it
I love your channel but I sometimes wonder - is there any history that deserves to be forgotten?
Not to my mind, really. Good, bad, or indifferent, history is history. The motto "history deserves to be remembered" refers to the channel focus on lesser known history that is or was at risk of being forgotten.
"is there any history that deserves to be forgotten?"
Oh hell no...
..."lance to the face" and "drink thy blood" both made a rather dark 2020 more enjoyable !
An interesting video, I am a great reader of fantasy novels and David Gemmil has in his novels a group of religious warriors called I think the Thirty, I wonder if this event is where he get part of his inspiration.
“I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries.”
"Love your channel, Mr. & Ms. Hx! Nicely done on this episode! It does beg a question in my mind, though: I wonder to what extent the 14th Century Rules of Chivalry influenced those who in the late 19th & early 20th Centuries developed what came to be the Geneva Conventions. These, of course, deal mainly with the treatment of sick & wounded and prisoners of war. Am I baiting you to consider another episode along these lines? I'm not-so-secretly hoping so! :)
A wonderful bit of history to hear...even if there where no pirates😏
Great content, as usual, and the new intros are a winner. How about doing an episode outlining the Martian invasion of England during the late 1890's? 'Drachinfel' has already done an episode about HMS Thunderchild.
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I think the French knight who mounted the horse intended to retreat but the horse was startled and ran the wrong way straight into the noble Englishmen. They being animal lovers like the rest of their kinsmen thought it's better to surrender than harm the poor beast. That is chivalry for you!
I thought the rules said the combat was to be on foot? It doesn't seem very "chivalrous" to cheat by using a horse.
Again, content of top shelf quality. Changing my opinion of FIB's one video at a time.. lol
A moment of pause at 7:17... the guy on the lower middle has a 2H sword whose handle is as long as the blade. What the heck?
Good catch. That picture is from an illumination of the 1347 battle of Roche-Derrien. The handle does seem quite long compared to the blade, but I suspect it is intended to represent a hand-and-a-half sword, also called a "bastard sword," whose handle was designed especially long so that the sword could be wielded either one or two handed. Or, um, maybe the sword was longer and was broken in battle?
Wow, that's a new one. Never seen that before. Good eyes!
It is not like the artist likely standing there making an accurate recording. Artistic license or mistake is most likely.
We subscribed to MagellanTV all thanks to YOU, and we have enjoyed it immensely!! Consistently excellent documentaries! Thanks again for your recommendation!
" Of what can be." I have used words similar.
Thank you for a interesting piece of history ! Take care , stay safe and healthy wherever your research takes you ! Doing well here in Kansas .
Nice to hear you treat this topic! For some reason I thought you focused mainly(if not exclusively) on American history. However, I think I might hear a little bit of the Howard Zinn take on things creeping in here and there. Yes, chivalry could often cause its very practitioners to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. One of the worst examples of chivalric aspirations impeding success was some 45 years after this at the Battle of Nicopolis, where Christian knights could not reign-in their competing notions of unadulterated glory, and the Muslims showed them what it looks like when your side is able to cooperate with itself, shrinking Christendom as a result! Probably one of the finest examples of truly chivalrous behavior would be the Knights Hospitaller at the Great Siege of Malta in 1565. Although it was a bit after what is classically accepted as the "Age of Chivalry", I'm confident that the Knights of Malta's actions would've been revered by any 11th, 13th or 14th century epic poet! Btw, will you PLEASE sing a rendition of "It's Not Easy Being Green" at some point?!😀😂
Your dramatic endings are still the best. Well done Sir Knight!
Hey History Guy. All of your videos are highly enjoyable. Those that you have sponsored and you read the ad are superior to those that have assorted ads that interrupt the flow of the story; as done here.
Chivalry resembles pornography in that it is hard to define but when you see it, you know it.
I don't think pornography is hard to define
something you are unlikely to see in the US , chivalry that is.
This guy looks at history the right way. There is a lot we can learn about our present by studying what has already happened!
The Combat of the Thirty isn’t dead. Every August upwards to 60 of us in 14th C armour and blunt weapons fight it out for ransoms and glory. Many friends, who are also attending the Pennsic War near Slippery Rock PA ,come out to be entertained. My avatar picture is of me circa 2017 at the deed. Thank THG for another interesting story.
Just floating around on a Friday morning, listening to his lilting voice tell stories of how awesome we were.
Don't let Mrs. History Guy hear you saying that!
Robbing peasants for their daily bread is a sense of awesomeness of how we were? Still sounds like a government that feeds off the masses to elevate it’s considered elite! But no matter how the rules of engagement are established one side will always do what it takes to achieve the upper hand! No matter what’s considered obtuse for that moment. Love The History Guy. Fight on soldier’s because victory shall be ours. Chivalry my ass.
lilting is very generous to this horrendous vocal performance
Tis but a flesh wound...
I remember that bit from Sir Nigel, it seems like madness but I bet no one ever wanted to mess with any of those guys ever again. Lolz.
Always such a great and powerful ending. You sir are a poet of the past!
Can you do a story on what led to the Magna Carta and what it meant at the time it was written .
Always time well spent! Thank you History Guy!
Love your wonderful tales & your spiffy bow ties!👍🏼
It is so weird! This is the most Synchronistic out of the blue chances for me because only hours ago I was reading about this in Barbara Tuchman's : "A Distant Mirror-The Calamitous 14th Century" and wondering more about the details of this Combat! Thank you History Guy!
As always you and your team have outdone yourselves. Great video, great topic, great presentation. 👏👏👏
Idealism vs pragmatism.
One aids survival. The other brings meaning and purpose to existence.
Survival when you must.
Idealism when you can.
Well put, and a very nice thought.
I couldn't help thinking of the jousting and the reporting thereof in Mark Twain's, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. :)
I really enjoy all your videos, your voice inflection is excellent. Thank you for the entertainment and enjoyment of history, that I love.
He always knows a great note to leave things off with
Great content sir
one of my most favorite historical battles to study, thank you for your video!
"I'll have your leg..!!
"The taunting of the French caught
The Knights completely by
surprise!!!"
"Bad! Form!"
"Bad! Form!"
"We need to follow Master Jack's rules..".
Those who envision chivalry in war are the same who believe Socialism is all about a Utopian place where all is wonderful and equal.
Sounds just like a description of the first Rugby game, even having a half time break. You know the game? Described as one man trying to shove two men’s heads up three men’s arses.
Don't forget Montfort of Colorado! ! And the left lane of the freeway,was called ,the MONTFORT LANE &!! CAUSE THEIR TRUCKS WERE THAT FAST !!!
Sounds like a bunch of bored Klingons to me.
the fast track to Stovokor
Politicians never do time ! the blood of the many is all they need .
The Roman term also refers to the financial capacity of the class "Equites" to own a horse, tied to the Latin of horse "equus."
Not to be confused with the modern term equity meaning fairness? Help me out Latin Scholars
If you had been my *History Teacher* in High School I would have Majored in History in University instead of Human Resources. lol
There's actually a major in human resources? Egad the horror!
Western "Christendom": young male warlords leading bands of young male soldiers, all looking for trouble. Chivalry: improvement...of a kind.
Sir please make a Video about BATTLE OF PAWAN KHIND(1660) of INDIA where 600 Maratha Soldiers faced and fought with the 10000 soldiers of Bijapur Sultanate .
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*The truth is more akin to: Some fat lord kisses the kings rear and is appointed "lord" of such and such land. He, in turn, takes a handful of cousins and hires a few thugs, gives them weapons and off they go to lay waste to the incomes and happiness of any poor farmer who happened to be on that land FIRST. But that's not enough, now they go into surrounding lands (not bestowed on them by the godlike king) and raid, ravage, rape and plunder THOSE lands too. The only "real" combat those goon squads faced was during wartime, and when raiding parties ambushed each other, but the majority of the time, those same thugs were too cowardly to face off with anyone armed who could fight back.*
Well, yeah ... and?
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*"and"? and nothings changed, the rich still pay thugs and arm them to lean on the serf*
Not very chivalrous to type an entire comment in boldface.
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*1. I can't see my own comments because I'm legally blind, so I boldface. 2. I do what I want, whenever I want. 3. Chivalry included weaons like maces, spears, and swords, and had serious consequences for those who picked on the weak or the sickly.*
For a minute there I thought you were talking about a WWE tagteam competition.😅
I love History Guy, but take exception to this story as "what can be"; more accurately, "what might have been, if killers really were rule followers (which they ain't)". But, did enjoy every minute, many thanks dude. Someday (as an old white male American from Baltimore) would love to see a black series of the historical civil rights ladies & dudes, from Harriet Tub through Angela Davis and Rosa Parks, or dudes like Nat Turner, through Fred Douglas, and of course the two black Scotus justices, as well as MLK, MX, H. Rap Brown, atheltes and Black Panthers all the way toG Floydd. That's something that "could be..." memorable, and chivalrous of a white dude in engineer's glasses, making a good living on utoob (I hope he is)
Many landless knights & men-at-arms of the period turned to mercenary combat for various feudal lords when they were unemployed between wars. One of the most famous was the Englishman Sir John Hawkwood, commander of the White Company, a very effective & ultimately wealthy band of mercenaries who fought for several paymasters in Italy for 15 or 20 years late in the 14th century. Chivalry was a fragile concept. The White Company, fighting for the Pope in 1377, on the orders of a cardinal, perpetrated, albeit reputedly reluctantly, the massacre of around 5,000 of the civilians of Cesena.
"No Sir ... when the legend becomes fact, print the legend." Chivalry and chivalric codes are legend.
Probably a heavily unfavorable opinion, but... it kind of reminds me of the 2016 commie/patriot clashes, stressing kind of. One of the most heavily armed civilian populace, the USA as a whole, and yet they resort to handmade shields and striking devices. Maybe chivalry isn’t dead ;)
I have a topic suggestion. A somewhat historical account called Chronicle of the Narvaez Expedition in the 1500s by Alvar Nunez Cabeza De Vaca, recounting his amazing survival of that expedition.
The equivalent of a softball or Rugby 🏉 match between two enemie neighborhoods but with sword, Lance and mazes on a Sunday morning with spectators and even vendors. 30 from Jocelyn and 30 from Ploermel
John Ford's philosophy on making westerns.
When the fact becomes legend, print the legend.
The "code of arms" books from the day (still in private libraries in Europe) do suggest that Knights AFTER the Crusades were supposed to only fight for their liege, not fight nor rob the serfs, honor aristocratic women etc. The idea that there was NO Chivaric code sprang from Karl Marx's writings and he was 100% wrong on everything he wrote about anyways.
Seems like such _Challenges;_ partly tournament and partly warfare, with all the names of knights listed, happened more than once.
_The Challenge of Barletta,_ of 1503 between 13 French vs 13 Italian knights (in Spanish service) has long been part of Italian nationalist folklore.
Idgaf.. I’m dying!!! I don’t care about my legacy. Lol.
So the "English" are really Germans and the "Brittons" are French
I think so.
Hell no! The Britons are Celts, they have their own language Jesus!
You previously did a show on the fire at Peshtigo, WI. I recalled reading a book on it, about 10 years ago. I still have the book....somewhere. Anyway, it was written on statements from the survivers - including I recall, from such ones that had been in the water. I recall the fence around the church. It was burned...but only on the outside of the fence. The side facing the church itself was NOT burned. And, if i recall it correctly, the church itself survived, along with the Priest. The church was the only building to survive. Did you run across that information when you did your story?
I really enjoy your programs!!!!
Bob
It would make a great movie. Sound track could include Black Sabbath's Sabbath Bloody Sabbath Album. And a slow motion scene of two notable Knights locked in mortal combat to sound of Moody Blues' Knights in White Satin.
Chivalry was very much an upper class pastime. The Courtly Love only applied to aristocratic women and not working women. Much of what we are told about 'Chivalry' is a Victorian revision pretty much designed to curb the licentious and drunken behaviour of working men.
( The North Inch of Perth ) view on
electricscotland.com northinchofperth there was a land dispute of Clan McIntosh head of Clan Chattan which was head of 17 Clans the dispute was with Clan Camaron who settled lands that where owned by Clan McIntosh this gang of 30 was fought before the King of Scotland and the Queen of Scotland and others it was translated from Scotch Gaelic. You will find the story interesting.
Scott McIntosh I realy enjoy your detailed history !!!
Great video! Any chance you could spotlight Lawyer William Walker who took over Nicaragua?
Chivalry probably owed more to the practice of knights ransoming captive knights since even then money talked! Indeed the reaction to Henry V's decision to execute French prisoners at Agincourt owed less to chivalry than to not executing prisoners worth a valuable ransom. On the battlefield, it probably lasted only so long as a knight was on his horse! Once he was down and encumbered by his heavy armour he would be dispatched in short order by men on foot - as seen at the battles of Crecy and Agincourt amongst others and by what is supposed to have happened to Richard III at Bosworth (A horse! A horse! My Kingdom for a horse!) chivalry didn't enter the minds of Henry Tudor's men who simply butchered the King once he was in their hands.
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