But you don't have to have only one. If you only have 1, then there's a 4/12 chance you don't draw it soon enough and you can't compete on power and you lose the match. I'm running a deck with torch/vulture/dagger, with Hulbuster to re-activate them each if I draw a late ghostspider. Got a 288 human torch the other day. Felt pretty good.
Lol I been playing move since release . I am a move main myself . I hit infinite every month with move decks and won conquests with move decks. Idk why people act like move is just plain bad . It just take some thought
@@coolshirtkidbro eveybody has fun in their own ways . Marvel snap is fun as hell to me still and move is my all time favorite. And I have the most fun with move decks . Because that’s what I like . Not everybody is going to enjoy things the same way. Some people have more fun complaining about marvel snap than playing it😂 . I don’t judge. Everybody has their own way of having fun gang
The best way to play Hercules in my experience is actually something like Dagger Cloak on 4, then Herc on 5 in the Cloak lane. It ignores priority problems and still hits the T5 push that would happen in the opposite play order.
Yeah, that's a great play. The worst part of Herc is when the opponent steals your move proc. I just want him to do the first card moved here per player. Make that change and he can stay at 4 cost
The recent changes have made me fall back in love with the game again. Was honestly starting to get a bit stale for me, but now that Miek is here (I’ve been a discard shill ever since I entered pool 3), OTAs have hit, and Black Order is coming, there’s so much to enjoy and look forward to.
Now Spiderman 2066 needs a buff, I feel like move has so many cards to ramp up power but something more technical or defensive is needed to really establish move decks as a more versatile arcitech
19:58 pro tip here: when playing bounce move, play the Cloak first, then the Forge + Torch, because you could have moved the torch, played Ghost Spider back to the Falcon and Beasted back Falcon, spider and torch. T6 you get to bounce it back with Falcon
@@Ryuuk00On turns 3-6, unless you've played Iron Fist the turn before, you should always play Cloak first and then whatever card you want to move (Torch, Dagger, Vulture), so that you can slide them over to Cloak, but then play Ghost Spider to move them out immediately. It's a good "best practise" in case you top deck (or have in hand) the Ghost Spider
@@Ryuuk00 Yeah, exactly. Let's say it's T3, the best order is Cloak and then Torch. Since the Torch is the last card you played, you can slide it anywhere you want with Ghost spider to get an 8 power Torch
Just played my first mighty move deck in a conquest vs Alex Coccia electric poison deck !!! and I won🎉 kudos to you and Alex Coccia on you guys awesome channels
Move has always been my favorite archetype, and I just hit infinite using only your Move deck! (I tweaked it a little because I think Hercules is awful. I put 2099/Shang chi in his spot.) The inclusion of beast and falcon really makes this deck incredibly robust. Thank you!
Love this video. I myself have bust out Patriot this morning with the new Dazzler change. Later I'm gonna do some zoo and see how that works. Patriot with Valkyrie is great right now though.
I used the same deck but with taskmaster living tribunal and nico instead of forge heimdal and vulture. More risky but when it pays off it's incredible. Had a 2000+ power torch once. The matchmaking tends to make it hard to play though. I keep seeing terrains locking me from playing middle locations or fighting against junk, control and killmonger players...
Really liking Dagger because she can just win a lane by herself on the last turn. So you can invest in Madrox or Torch early on, add a touch of WBN/Kraven/bounce, and then end with Dagger.
Ahh my favorite archetype getting better makes me happy. Thanks for these deck ideas dagger alone has been keeping up with Thanos blobjaw decks. A friggin 42 power dagger? Nuts
yeah vulture is too expensive to play so you can't get him out until late in the game, multiple man fills the board too much with low power if he's not buffed and human torch is too susceptible to killmonger. dagger has always been a strong move card.
I wish they could have given us a heads up on the Herc buff while he was still available for caches. I had enough to go for him, but skipped because his future was uncertain. It’s so hard to make confident card purchasing decisions in this game.
@@ThrowingRave totally, not the game’s fault when the economy has been trash for a while, and only made worse by an additional card every month, and no system to refund cards that get immediately nerfed. Don’t get me wrong, on the gameplay front I love Snap, but it’s a game with some problems.
@@Jmerithew87 You should have known new OP cards don't stay OP and new bad cards don't always stay bad. And why should they refund you? If you used keys it's very unethical to refund, how would they even make that work, especially when you upgrade the card and gained levels? No game in history does those dumb kind of refunds. And if you want a dry game with no update, be my guest. Also, if you purchased it from the shop with tokens it says the collector provides NO REFUNDS. To my final point: You skip cards that don't seem good, you get cards that are good. Then you complain about it. Are you hearing yourself right now? Let me explain something in stock marketing called "searching for trends". A while ago, before samsung and apple, Nokia was all the stocks. Everyone was buying, expecting it to be the biggest thing to have ever existed. Now, whar has happebed? They lost their money, and they don't get refunds. Trendy things don't stay trendy. OP cards don't stay OP. There is no way to implement refunds, the game actually teaches you an understanding of being responsible and how to manage your resources.
Hey cozy! I just got to throw out some love for that super smash brothers melee OTS track. It is absolutely fire and I think I burnt out that free CD that I got with that Nintendo power magazine way back in the early 2000s
21:31 you should have played cloak on hercules location then on last turn move human torch with cloak then herc moves him again and then hemidal moves him again that would have been a 448 power human torch 🤯 great deck btw 👍
I just took first version and replaced herkules with wolf. You clearly will win one lane with torch/dagger, the issue might be to win the other. So wolf give you flexibility of doing that (whatever lane you like) i remember it being great with heimdall right.
Love to see youre showing some of the games you lose too Cozy. Keeps the games more exciting not knowing how the match will end plus shows what to look out for when playing the decks.
I have been doing move mixed with p.force and nimrod. You p.force a Dagger you have a monster. But you also have nimrod to play if you don't get Dagger going. Add in multiple man as another p.forcr target it has been fun
Hear me out guys. Living tribunal is also kinda insane instead of Heimdall. Im currently playing move with him and there is nothing more fun than playing Ghost spider, Iron fist, Human torch turn 6 (all 0 cost because of beast) into Tribunal.
I‘ve been running into Move all day, so I had to switch to Sera Control. Just farming medals now because I don’t care about Infinite ladder ranks. With Killmonger, Shang and Shadow King you get most move players over a full round of conquest. Gladiator kills everything but Heimdall and forcing him on the board early is still good. Then you just put Shang on one line and Shadow King on the other because all scaling move cards get screwed by both equally. Sure, a good move player might still beat you but it’s OK to lose against the 1 out of 10 who can resist moving dagger to the fullest opposing lane or simply playing Heimdall on 6. :D
I've always liked to try and get my MM to 10 power and try to get it moving. Forge > MM > Hulkbuster > MOVE A LOT. With the sports variant too it makes me laugh a little like they're actually relaying the baton.
Move still needs a lot of help. If you don't pull Vulture or Torch early you just lose. We still need one more low cost card that gets power when moving.
Hey cozy I'm thinking about running 2099 I think with the reduced cost of having a zero Iron Fist and a zero Ghost you can pretty much use 2099 on any turn and maybe be able to pop something on turn five maybe six what do you think
I’m so mad I didn’t get herc I literally got both 3 dupes shit is so annoying take that random series 4-5 away and just lower their cost in the token shop but good deck cozy!
Not many destroy decks in play here and a LOT of people play Destroy. Are destroy decks an instant fast pass coz of killmonger100% or is their a strategy for it other then pass and save cubes.must say looks FUN!!! oh and wong I could see being another pain nothing to stop him
I switched to Move after the Ms Marvel Nerf. And now that Hercules and more importantly, Dagger got buffed, im actually really content. I use a Pheonix Force Hercules deck I call it, "Ping Pong"
We can't have 2 cost get this big. Move already has Torch going 10+ power. They also have Vulture as 3-8 at least. Can we make Dagger 3-0? Kraven, Wolverine, Collector, Carnage, Morbius can all get big, but not that big.
I swear all the decks I play as a joke is getting on ya'll videos. Been playing bounce move for few weeks now and before shaw season I was playing hand buffer deck for dailies. Right now I'm cooking with debrii, typhoid mary and annihilus, remind me in 1month.
Honestly, why nobody calls any card busted? Currently Dagger is absolutely broken. I even considered her way too much before the buff! She can do A LOT for a 2 energy cost. Way way too much.
People basically forgot how to play against move. Play on middle and right lane, so when they "heimdall" (and they always do :D ) you can win (expecially without priority and a shang-chi in middle lane). The werewolf in this deck is a great move because it helps a lot the heimdall lane though
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You can only have one in your deck, who you choosing?
Dagger, Vulture, Multiple Man, Human Torch? 🤔
used to be vulture, but definitely dagger after the change
Dagger after the buff.
Vulture
Dagger is soo good right now! I might just have to pick up a sweet variant.
But you don't have to have only one.
If you only have 1, then there's a 4/12 chance you don't draw it soon enough and you can't compete on power and you lose the match.
I'm running a deck with torch/vulture/dagger, with Hulbuster to re-activate them each if I draw a late ghostspider.
Got a 288 human torch the other day. Felt pretty good.
As a move main, This OTA made me happy. I use both Dagger and Hercules so this is a welcome suprise
Move take some thought. That's for sure. I threw some move cards and bounce cards had dagger beat infanaut and like 3- 2 to 5 power cards there too.
@@coolshirtkid there are dozens of us and we're a very proud people.
Lol I been playing move since release . I am a move main myself . I hit infinite every month with move decks and won conquests with move decks. Idk why people act like move is just plain bad . It just take some thought
So Hercules IS good. I was sad I spent 3 keys and didn't get him.
@@coolshirtkidbro eveybody has fun in their own ways . Marvel snap is fun as hell to me still and move is my all time favorite. And I have the most fun with move decks . Because that’s what I like . Not everybody is going to enjoy things the same way. Some people have more fun complaining about marvel snap than playing it😂 . I don’t judge. Everybody has their own way of having fun gang
The best way to play Hercules in my experience is actually something like Dagger Cloak on 4, then Herc on 5 in the Cloak lane. It ignores priority problems and still hits the T5 push that would happen in the opposite play order.
Yeah, that's a great play. The worst part of Herc is when the opponent steals your move proc. I just want him to do the first card moved here per player. Make that change and he can stay at 4 cost
@@drsmoothmovesas far as I know it's a priority dance. So if they steal it you should be able to tell ahead of time and account for that
@@drdepression4605 yeah, sometimes. It still feels bad when you've invested 4 energy into his placement
@@drsmoothmoves well yeah. Luckily that hasn't happened to me yet. People are too scared to move Jeff into Hercules usually
@@drsmoothmoves At worst he's a 4/7, so it's not a disaster per se.
Oh man, that Shadow King play made me feel good. Glad it's not just me.
The recent changes have made me fall back in love with the game again. Was honestly starting to get a bit stale for me, but now that Miek is here (I’ve been a discard shill ever since I entered pool 3), OTAs have hit, and Black Order is coming, there’s so much to enjoy and look forward to.
Finally! Move was my first favorite archetype when I started playing. So glad it's getting some more love!
lighting in your most recent videos have been a really welcome touch, cozy!!!
Now Spiderman 2066 needs a buff, I feel like move has so many cards to ramp up power but something more technical or defensive is needed to really establish move decks as a more versatile arcitech
15:35 😂😂😂
this reminds he played leader once next to beast, and he copied opponent's odin and triggered beast then he bounced his leader and odin and lost 😂
LOVE the melee soundtrack cozy!! Bringing back memories!
19:58 pro tip here: when playing bounce move, play the Cloak first, then the Forge + Torch, because you could have moved the torch, played Ghost Spider back to the Falcon and Beasted back Falcon, spider and torch. T6 you get to bounce it back with Falcon
Shouldn't you play those in the opposite order?
@@Ryuuk00On turns 3-6, unless you've played Iron Fist the turn before, you should always play Cloak first and then whatever card you want to move (Torch, Dagger, Vulture), so that you can slide them over to Cloak, but then play Ghost Spider to move them out immediately. It's a good "best practise" in case you top deck (or have in hand) the Ghost Spider
@@drsmoothmoves you're saying Cloak and Torch get played same turn?
@drsmoothmoves oh, you're just trying to explain play order, always playing the payoff card last, just in case you top deck ghost spider.
@@Ryuuk00 Yeah, exactly. Let's say it's T3, the best order is Cloak and then Torch. Since the Torch is the last card you played, you can slide it anywhere you want with Ghost spider to get an 8 power Torch
I always love move, I am glad it is getting some love. Thanks as always for the great video Cozy!
Just played my first mighty move deck in a conquest vs Alex Coccia electric poison deck !!! and I won🎉 kudos to you and Alex Coccia on you guys awesome channels
I do wish Hercules was a 3-cost. The times I was able to get him out on turn 3, it was great!
Werewolf by Night in a Move deck is so good! I've been doing that since he came out, even after the 4 cost Nerf.
Imagine most players now playing move it will be chaos and i love it😂
It's better than Thanos blob every match
Move has always been my favorite archetype, and I just hit infinite using only your Move deck! (I tweaked it a little because I think Hercules is awful. I put 2099/Shang chi in his spot.) The inclusion of beast and falcon really makes this deck incredibly robust. Thank you!
i felt that shadow king on the 38 power dagger in my soul
15:32 38 to 0 is just insanity man
Love this video. I myself have bust out Patriot this morning with the new Dazzler change. Later I'm gonna do some zoo and see how that works. Patriot with Valkyrie is great right now though.
Lol… love that you called out your 50% math error yesterday! I’m guessing people couldn’t help but call out your honest mistake.
Removing Kraven was such an interesting choice, would never have thought of it.
In the words of Count Dooku,” I’ve been looking forward to this…”
I used the same deck but with taskmaster living tribunal and nico instead of forge heimdal and vulture. More risky but when it pays off it's incredible. Had a 2000+ power torch once.
The matchmaking tends to make it hard to play though. I keep seeing terrains locking me from playing middle locations or fighting against junk, control and killmonger players...
Really liking Dagger because she can just win a lane by herself on the last turn. So you can invest in Madrox or Torch early on, add a touch of WBN/Kraven/bounce, and then end with Dagger.
Ahh my favorite archetype getting better makes me happy. Thanks for these deck ideas dagger alone has been keeping up with Thanos blobjaw decks. A friggin 42 power dagger? Nuts
Dagger has always been my favorite move card. No idea why they thought she was the one that needed the buff.
yeah vulture is too expensive to play so you can't get him out until late in the game, multiple man fills the board too much with low power if he's not buffed and human torch is too susceptible to killmonger. dagger has always been a strong move card.
I wish they could have given us a heads up on the Herc buff while he was still available for caches. I had enough to go for him, but skipped because his future was uncertain. It’s so hard to make confident card purchasing decisions in this game.
That's why you get cards based on fun and not how good it is unless it's an absolutely terrible card like Howard the duck
They saw how players disliked him so they buffed him... that's why it was such a sudden part of the balance update.
It's completely your fault for not getting him
@@ThrowingRave totally, not the game’s fault when the economy has been trash for a while, and only made worse by an additional card every month, and no system to refund cards that get immediately nerfed.
Don’t get me wrong, on the gameplay front I love Snap, but it’s a game with some problems.
@@Jmerithew87 You should have known new OP cards don't stay OP and new bad cards don't always stay bad. And why should they refund you? If you used keys it's very unethical to refund, how would they even make that work, especially when you upgrade the card and gained levels? No game in history does those dumb kind of refunds. And if you want a dry game with no update, be my guest. Also, if you purchased it from the shop with tokens it says the collector provides NO REFUNDS.
To my final point: You skip cards that don't seem good, you get cards that are good. Then you complain about it. Are you hearing yourself right now?
Let me explain something in stock marketing called "searching for trends". A while ago, before samsung and apple, Nokia was all the stocks. Everyone was buying, expecting it to be the biggest thing to have ever existed. Now, whar has happebed? They lost their money, and they don't get refunds.
Trendy things don't stay trendy. OP cards don't stay OP. There is no way to implement refunds, the game actually teaches you an understanding of being responsible and how to manage your resources.
Hey cozy! I just got to throw out some love for that super smash brothers melee OTS track. It is absolutely fire and I think I burnt out that free CD that I got with that Nintendo power magazine way back in the early 2000s
21:31 you should have played cloak on hercules location then on last turn move human torch with cloak then herc moves him again and then hemidal moves him again that would have been a 448 power human torch 🤯 great deck btw 👍
I just took first version and replaced herkules with wolf. You clearly will win one lane with torch/dagger, the issue might be to win the other. So wolf give you flexibility of doing that (whatever lane you like) i remember it being great with heimdall right.
Found similar results from my Move plays. Hercules can be awkward. Most fun archetype tho!
Love to see youre showing some of the games you lose too Cozy. Keeps the games more exciting not knowing how the match will end plus shows what to look out for when playing the decks.
Will be trying Dagger later today. Revisited Dazzler yesterday after her change with a Patriot deck. Uploaded a gameplay video on my channel.
Never played move before, looks interesting, I don’t have Hercules though.
Love the Super Smash Bros music in the background Cozy 🤌😂
I have been doing move mixed with p.force and nimrod. You p.force a Dagger you have a monster. But you also have nimrod to play if you don't get Dagger going. Add in multiple man as another p.forcr target it has been fun
Yes but... human torch has the highest ceiling by far.
Move was my first deck aswell 😭
Good ole days mane. I went up against a dagger before the ota and thought move was coming back.
We Did It Joe 🥹
Hear me out guys. Living tribunal is also kinda insane instead of Heimdall. Im currently playing move with him and there is nothing more fun than playing Ghost spider, Iron fist, Human torch turn 6 (all 0 cost because of beast) into Tribunal.
Yooo. I’ve been doing this. And took out vulture for Caiera to focus on protecting the torch/tribunal line mainly!! Happy snappin 🫰
It’s funny seeing your first deck half of the cards have been changed in balance updates lol
That 2nd match and the billion IQ shadow king call made my heart hurt.
Bring back your old style of decoration cozy ..that was great
God I wish I had ghost spider. She looks so fun in almost every deck I've seen her in
I only watch your videos for the background soundtrack you use, lol!
I‘ve been running into Move all day, so I had to switch to Sera Control. Just farming medals now because I don’t care about Infinite ladder ranks.
With Killmonger, Shang and Shadow King you get most move players over a full round of conquest.
Gladiator kills everything but Heimdall and forcing him on the board early is still good. Then you just put Shang on one line and Shadow King on the other because all scaling move cards get screwed by both equally.
Sure, a good move player might still beat you but it’s OK to lose against the 1 out of 10 who can resist moving dagger to the fullest opposing lane or simply playing Heimdall on 6. :D
Maaaan i love your videos!!! Flex options and all!
I really wanted to see you drop Cloak with Hercules to pull the Torch back into Hercules on turn 7 for two more doubles. 21:07
Great vid yet again cozy! Never been much of a move fanatic, but definitely looks fun, and challenging! Keep up the great work!
I've always liked to try and get my MM to 10 power and try to get it moving. Forge > MM > Hulkbuster > MOVE A LOT. With the sports variant too it makes me laugh a little like they're actually relaying the baton.
Move still needs a lot of help. If you don't pull Vulture or Torch early you just lose. We still need one more low cost card that gets power when moving.
Can’t lie, I can see dagger go right back to how she was next OTA.
That's what I'm scared of. I can tell the Devs don't like Move being too good. Lol
Hey cozy I'm thinking about running 2099 I think with the reduced cost of having a zero Iron Fist and a zero Ghost you can pretty much use 2099 on any turn and maybe be able to pop something on turn five maybe six what do you think
Just started playing and naturally gravitated to move decks. Sad to hear Multiple Man sucks competitively. I'm having a blast with him currently.
I love the super smash bros melee music when you’re talking about the cards ❤️
I usually win with my move deck, its only if i start with a bad hand tho that it gets tricky.
Super Sarah control deck incoming!
The incoming Dagger nerf is going to feel bad. I see her going back to 2/2 with a +2.
I’m so mad I didn’t get herc I literally got both 3 dupes shit is so annoying take that random series 4-5 away and just lower their cost in the token shop but good deck cozy!
would love to see you cover a shuri nimrod destroyer deck
Any ideas for a ghost spider replacement?
Would love to see a dagger, Phoenix force deck!
This makes me think of molt
Not having ghost spider for so long is a pain
Not many destroy decks in play here and a LOT of people play
Destroy. Are destroy decks an instant fast pass coz of killmonger100% or is their a strategy for it other then pass and save cubes.must say looks FUN!!! oh and wong I could see being another pain nothing to stop him
I switched to Move after the Ms Marvel Nerf. And now that Hercules and more importantly, Dagger got buffed, im actually really content.
I use a Pheonix Force Hercules deck
I call it, "Ping Pong"
best swap for hercules? I'm trying with kraven.
We can't have 2 cost get this big. Move already has Torch going 10+ power. They also have Vulture as 3-8 at least. Can we make Dagger 3-0? Kraven, Wolverine, Collector, Carnage, Morbius can all get big, but not that big.
Elsa isn't a bad option when the card being played gets buffed then moved.
When I play move decks I need a 1 cost that gives me an extra 30 seconds on the clock so I can visualize the pieces. Especially when WWBN is involved.
Any thoughts on trying Psylocke? Would allow for the optimal t3 Herc or the occasional t5 Heimdall.
If you falcon your cards and make them a 1 cost would that pair with the new black swan to play them all free?
Definitely got Herc knowing a buff was coming. We eating
Playing the living tribunal version of this deck. It's sneaky good.
If you don't have Hercules, who is the best replacement???
Pls tell a move deck without herc and ghost spider. I dont have them but i love move
I've got a question, is Leech good in destroy decks?
Missed opportunity to say "Move is on the Move"
Haven’t even started the video yet and I am on the edge of my seat! I’m a diehard move fan
😮 that Dagger variant 🔥
32 , 38, then 0 😂😂. Great commentary.
Is there any replacement for ghost spider? I no she is kinda one of the main cards however I love move but don’t have her 😮
What’s that human torch variant it looks 🔥
What do you think about moon girl?
When will Ghost Spider come to the buyable card pool. I don't have her😐
Who would you Sub for Ghost Spider???
She's now so OP
Awesome time to tweek the deck
I don't regret skipping Hercules but a buff a week later is annoying.
It's between dagger and vulture
If I dont have Hercules who can I replace him with?
But move does not beat discard and high power like knull skaar and blob 😢
Appreciate the content as always. Deck is buns though, respectfully.
I swear all the decks I play as a joke is getting on ya'll videos. Been playing bounce move for few weeks now and before shaw season I was playing hand buffer deck for dailies.
Right now I'm cooking with debrii, typhoid mary and annihilus, remind me in 1month.
I feel like they are actually gonna have to nerf dagger now lol
Honestly they haven’t made Hercules any better. We would all rather him be. 3 cost 4 power.
Honestly, why nobody calls any card busted? Currently Dagger is absolutely broken. I even considered her way too much before the buff! She can do A LOT for a 2 energy cost. Way way too much.
If magik made it so it adds a turn to the game rather than just make the game turn 7, there would be more usefulness for a move deck
People basically forgot how to play against move. Play on middle and right lane, so when they "heimdall" (and they always do :D ) you can win (expecially without priority and a shang-chi in middle lane). The werewolf in this deck is a great move because it helps a lot the heimdall lane though
That Shadow King 🤦
When they instabuff a card a couple days after it leaves the caches they should offer it in the shop for 2 keys or something. This is gettin old