Well that how tekken is played. I mean almost every characters has some patterns. Its just a matter of option selecting pattern to counter adaptions really.
@@imdynamis9824 Wait, chat, listen, 'ear me out, roight? *Insert douchbag take here* and you know I'm roight chat. Do this daily = k-wiss on a good day
Well everyone is toxic when they're frustrated especially when they're playing tekken, even pros get salty sometimes and yet they hate TMM for being salty 🤦
K-WISS: "OMFG GUYS PLS GO TELL HIM THAT IM FORCED TO KI CHARGE" *repeat a million times* TMM: "7:21" how to command respect a masterclass by themaindaddy
its not respect in this case actually; somebody spent 20k channel points on the "ki charge opponent" option and TMM didnt uphold what he said he would do granted, im willing to bet MainMan was so focused he didnt even realize somebody spent points for it
@@awooga-gunga-israel Cos he's really hard to play against. Forget about blocking and punishing, most of his moves are plus on block or at least safe Forget about moves that have minus frames or even neutral frames because as soon as he starts his offense, you're done. Even forget about counter hits since his range is endless and you won't be able to squeeze a single move between his strings You're best bet would be 1- Hitting him with endless lows, which is what allowed TMM to get the rounds he got and Kazuya has good lows. 2- Attacking him with plus frame moves which Kazuya unforunately sucks at You need to be aggressive against Hwoarang Being defensive will get you killed
@@kakacech hwoarang is probably the most aggressive tekken 7 character, but has a really weak defense. unless you fight really aggressively, you will lose
@@benjaminjentgen3596 yip. I would always try to perfect my spacing so that after the move connects I get a guaranteed back throw. My brother banned me from doing that
shadowmech same thing for when people redeem legends in my chat when I’m playing ranked on apex I’m not going to switch my legend when I am in a pred lobby trying to win I’ll do it another time for them. It’s not that hard.
H P we know that that’s why he said “pestering” but ok and? Doesn’t mean he should do it lol you just look like a toxic ass hole when you do that and I unfollowed him for it
@@paradiseb5950 Unit used to express time in tekken. It can be used in any game though. It is assumed that you get 60fps first, then suppose a move is 10 frames (a simple jab) that means it will take 1/60*10 = 0.16 seconds for a jab to come and hit. Frame advantage is the same concept, if you have +frames advantage then it means if both players do same attack then one with the advantage will hit
seriously man he made those true tekken fraud series when he got ki charged and called that guy a fraud. now hes saying that ki charging is not a big deal what a hypocrite
Guys calm down. K-Wiss inplemented a points system into his stream and if viewers saved up enough of them they could force k-wiss to do things in game, one of them being a ki charge. In k-wiss' stream hes begging his chat to go to mms stream and tell him that its not him but his chat.
@@kakacech Lab one or two characters, get really really good with them and that will make it a lot more fun. I don't have time to lab everyone in Tekken 7 either, but if you get really, really good with one or two of your favorites and start climbing ranks and winning more, it's sooo rewarding. Makes you want to keep going. My main is Eddy and am currently at Usurper, I try to play a few rounds a day but also watch a LOT of Eddy videos to improve where my skillset is lacking.
I'm in low ranks still so my opinion may be irrelevant but I think characters like Hworang, Katarina, eddy, etc. (Characters with a lot of pressure) are the greatest menace bc you simply can't keep up at first
@@mehdiouabas9587 I beat a Fujin Zaffina yesterday multiple times with Hwoa and I myself could never rank up to beyond Vanquisher. My guess was the same. Zafina has lows that carried the player to that rank. Or maybe his brother was playing the game. xD
The crazy thing people should take note in this fight is that K wiss barely did d3, 4. Arguably hwoarangs best tool. Its interesting that rather than relying on d3 4, K swiss used the moves that converted into flamingo such as 4, 4f; ss 4, jabs.
why? TMM's reaction (or lack thereof) would be better than any reaction where he would be upset. Honestly, it's cool seeing him so much calmer than he was in TTT2, shows how much he's grown from then as a player and a person.
And honestly, it was kinda funny seeing the chat be so annoyed that Adrian wasn't annoyed, like as if he needs to act exactly how the chat wants him to. he's his own person, he can decide when to be annoyed, no need to tell him 'oh you need to ki-charge back' or whatever.
@@genzo454 this was the wrong comment to type all that out to man lol, I was just making a joke about how the best way to get tmm to see something is to get him to make a reaction video to a Tekken edit. It's a meme.
Can someone explain to me what's so disrespectful about something as little as a ki charge? All the years I've been playing tekken, I still don't understand why ppl are so butt hurt from something like a ki charge 🤷♂️
1v1 fight, absolutely fun and in good sporting. After you KO me and then start doing show boating moves and steps? That's being a poor sport and that's on them, not on me.
No character has this type of gameplay where his pressure just never ends it’s like constant never ending flow of highs mids lows. Atleast with other characters you have maximum 4 move flows so you know when it’s your turn.
Its a delayed hop-kick usually works on high minus lows when blocked. Just press uf after blocking and while in mid air press 4. It’s a universal move like the low parry.
@TMM....Why is ki charge considered disrespectful? , i grew up with it from Tekken 2 as a risky CH tool as a follow up option. Bit confused to this new perception after returning to the game after a few years of having to be responsible.
I think player's with dash like kazuya jin paul bryan are very strong with strong moves but that make them also slightest slower comparing to players without dash...my opinion
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K-Wiss: GUYS SOMEONE TELL MAINMAN THE CHAT IS TELLING ME TO KI CHARGE **INTENSE CRYING**
TMM: 😶
I felt so bad for K-Wiss, he felt so much shame XDDD
Mad Dog yeah I don’t think it’s that way chief
@@redshirtnumber3494 you right sir, was drunk and jealous at that point *deletes his toxic comment*
Kswiss wanted to do ot
@@redshirtnumber3494 you felt bad for k wiss?what?🤦♀️
*everyone waiting to see Mainman reaction getting ki charged*
TMM: 😶
lool
._.
I know right he was reading chat.
@@Zenkai.boost.Kekkei.Genkai cant tell if ur saying it like a joke or an attack towards him😂
@@Zenkai.boost.Kekkei.Genkai It's funny how you talk like you know him in person, just stfu you mong
No one:
Literally no one:
Mainman after low parrying: nice low parry
No one:
Literally no one:
Mainman after electrics: mmm nice electric
I dunno I kinda like that, I feel like he probably gets a morale boost from praising the cool stuff he sometimes does.
Humble moment
7:23
Moments
0:40 (The Ki-Charge)
1:05
1:25
7:14
7:45
8:35
9:16
11:10
11:27
12:18
15:50
17:49
20:15
22:13 (Entire Round)
23:12
bless you
MainManSwe: TMM fights K-wiss incredible hwoarang
Thumb nail showing hwoarang whiffing
he had small patterns, then switched them when tmm realised
Well that how tekken is played. I mean almost every characters has some patterns. Its just a matter of option selecting pattern to counter adaptions really.
Damn, really? And is water wet?
Shinku Quickman 😂😂😂😂😂
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN 😂😂😂
Quick Man 😂😂😂 dude why do him like that
9:24 The range on that hellsweep tho
someone in chat legit said 'no execution' after a JFSR. smh
Hwo hater
Probably a 1st dan
@@williamsaumure4883 dont do him like that
I get what he was trying to say. I don't play hwo and can do JFSR. Much easier than otgf or pewgf
@@loto7197 I can do it to and I also don't play Hwo not really too hard compared to some other stuff in the game
Lol I saw the Kwiss video he was so stressed about the ki charges
TMM reacts to Ki Charge : Why is he so toxic?
TMM doesn't react to Ki Charge : He's just hiding his toxicity
Damned if you do, Damned if you don't
so fkn true lmao
Kwiss is the most toxic tekken player of all time
@@imdynamis9824 Wait, chat, listen, 'ear me out, roight? *Insert douchbag take here* and you know I'm roight chat.
Do this daily = k-wiss on a good day
Well everyone is toxic when they're frustrated especially when they're playing tekken, even pros get salty sometimes and yet they hate TMM for being salty 🤦
N _ But boats and hoes
Tekken5's songs always in my heart
"IM HEEERE NOOOOOOOW.... IM DOING THE BEEEST I CAAAAN!!"
Tekken 5 had the best soundtrack... every stage and music of the stages were a work of art ❤️
Tekken 4 for me
why is a brawlhalla player here
Really good set between you two! Side note: I really hope that dude who requested a ki-charge from the rewards got his points back in the end
Kwiss chat paid him to ki charge
Yea so was tmm, but he didnt, why? Cuzz he respect k-wiss. Clearly the feeling isnt mutual.
@@inder3944 Kwiss is toxic, cocky, and arrogant. I can’t wait when real tournaments start up again then we’ll see how good his spamming hworang is.
@@polposama2176 can’t wait. Unlike you, he’ll most likely compete. I bet you’re too scared.
@@sO_RoNerY I bet 1) you’re not competing and 2) you stink at Tekken. Oh wait you’re probably TGO!!! (twitch god prime). Good for you little man
@@polposama2176 ay weh tru ba pinaglalaban mong hauf ka ha?
K-WISS: "OMFG GUYS PLS GO TELL HIM THAT IM FORCED TO KI CHARGE" *repeat a million times*
TMM: "7:21"
how to command respect a masterclass by themaindaddy
its not respect in this case actually; somebody spent 20k channel points on the "ki charge opponent" option and TMM didnt uphold what he said he would do
granted, im willing to bet MainMan was so focused he didnt even realize somebody spent points for it
@@Poison_Paradise didnt they tell him afterwards?: 9:34 // maybe he just thought "fuck your MASKU points im not gonna ki charge K" haha
hwoarang makes me want to claw my face off, and im not even playing
Y tho
@@awooga-gunga-israel
Cos he's really hard to play against.
Forget about blocking and punishing, most of his moves are plus on block or at least safe
Forget about moves that have minus frames or even neutral frames because as soon as he starts his offense, you're done.
Even forget about counter hits since his range is endless and you won't be able to squeeze a single move between his strings
You're best bet would be
1- Hitting him with endless lows, which is what allowed TMM to get the rounds he got and Kazuya has good lows.
2- Attacking him with plus frame moves which Kazuya unforunately sucks at
You need to be aggressive against Hwoarang
Being defensive will get you killed
@@kakacech hwoarang is probably the most aggressive tekken 7 character, but has a really weak defense. unless you fight really aggressively, you will lose
@@CacoExplosivo
Absolutely
@@CacoExplosivo his back 1 is very evasive, he doesn't have bad defense, at least compares to kazuyas b1+2
Finally You can record/stream in 1080p60fps.
Exactly
someone tell aris that XD
Was waiting for this vid once saw kwiss' video
Is nobody going to talk about how weird the interaction was at 2:03 ?
It comes back to Tekken 3 actually. I'm surprised it made its way to Tekken 7.
@@benjaminjentgen3596 yip. I would always try to perfect my spacing so that after the move connects I get a guaranteed back throw. My brother banned me from doing that
9:28イケボすぎる
Yo Mainman...i love your mindset. You really seem to think for yourself without following the herd
I feel bad for the dude who spent 20k to see TMM Ki charge and TMM denies it. Dude just lost 20k points. RIP
20k what? Dollars?
@@multivact3729 20k channel points. Channel points you get by watching stream, being active in chat and other stuff.
Cuz TTM isn’t toxic
@@robertwright7874 I mean maybe, but whats the point having the option there when he doesn't do it when its redeemed?
shadowmech same thing for when people redeem legends in my chat when I’m playing ranked on apex I’m not going to switch my legend when I am in a pred lobby trying to win I’ll do it another time for them. It’s not that hard.
8:47
Much respect
5:03 in that stance u can do it at any distance
16:56 man, THE MUSIC AND THE TIMING 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
18:17 This song fits well with this match.
Just the first round and second round alone proves this guys are on another level of tekken
but not on the level of S.Korea,Japan and Pakistan
@@timesnewramen4861 after recent events, k-wiss is undoubtedly top 10 in the world
This was such a good fight... People pestering to ki charge was weird, its not that interesting lol
He was forced to ki charge by his chat
H P we know that that’s why he said “pestering” but ok and? Doesn’t mean he should do it lol you just look like a toxic ass hole when you do that and I unfollowed him for it
@@HououinKyouma. ego
What's the point building up all the streaming points then he says no I'm not going to do it? Bit of bait is you ask me
@@cormaccorrigan9086 it's the equivalent of teabagging.... And you are upset that he wouldn't do it on command.... Get some perspective.
I feel like SpeedKicks is somewhere watching this vid, saw the title and went, "Pffft...so what!"
@Anna Carson can you beat him, nobody?
@Anna Carson okay you can’t beat him.
@Anna Carson so do you mate, and you can’t beat him lmfao. do you realize how you sound?
@Anna Carson you’re worse, and you’re a hater 😂
“Oh sh**, it’s K Wiss” hahaha
The tekken 5 intro song gives me chills while watching
Yea Man makes me think how we've grown up with this game
Chat: "Oh its K-Wiss the UK guy."
Ryan Hart: *AM I A JOKE TO YOU*
Hwo’s backlash recovery on whiff needs to be slower.
I know right. It has the same recovery frames as a 1 jab which is (-17). I kid you not. Lol!
No bro it's an extremely vulnerable high and telegraphed
Yeah and ewgf as well
@@3rdtonalkiller but it's also a homing power crush launcher that is +4 on block.
+6 if you are close enough smh
sometimes when playing tekken you have to stop thinking about frames and stick with ur instinct
What are frames😂
My istinct 'hellsweep'
@@paradiseb5950 Unit used to express time in tekken. It can be used in any game though. It is assumed that you get 60fps first, then suppose a move is 10 frames (a simple jab) that means it will take 1/60*10 = 0.16 seconds for a jab to come and hit. Frame advantage is the same concept, if you have +frames advantage then it means if both players do same attack then one with the advantage will hit
Ki charging in that context is not toxic but I still don't like k-wiss' passive aggressive condescending personality
He's a know it all. Was expecting tmm to get angry or something except he just sat and played
seriously man he made those true tekken fraud series when he got ki charged and called that guy a fraud. now hes saying that ki charging is not a big deal what a hypocrite
My thought on the guy exactly.
Guys calm down. K-Wiss inplemented a points system into his stream and if viewers saved up enough of them they could force k-wiss to do things in game, one of them being a ki charge. In k-wiss' stream hes begging his chat to go to mms stream and tell him that its not him but his chat.
Leo and? if he considered it as not toxic then why made true tekken fraud series on ki charging players?
19:39 Right at the end of Kings Tekken 2 ending LOL
Tekken is such an amazing game to watch.
And horrible to play.
For me, it's not worth it to play it.
You have to lab every single character.
The time, the frustration.
@@kakacech you really don't unless you want to reach high ranks. just have fun don't worry about winning/losing so much.
@@omaisgee123 You do if you interested at winning more. If you don't really care, you right then
@@kakacech Lab one or two characters, get really really good with them and that will make it a lot more fun. I don't have time to lab everyone in Tekken 7 either, but if you get really, really good with one or two of your favorites and start climbing ranks and winning more, it's sooo rewarding. Makes you want to keep going. My main is Eddy and am currently at Usurper, I try to play a few rounds a day but also watch a LOT of Eddy videos to improve where my skillset is lacking.
Mainmain: I'll respect him and not ki charge him
Also Mainman: 9:25
You get what you F$!'@ing deserve, K-wiss! XD XD
i dont think thats a teabag just a wavedash
K wiss is strong until he faces legendarymihawk and gets smoked 6 matches with no round brown :)
dawg sdfu
remember when tmm had to fight mihawk and 2nd in this tournament?
Mihawk really hates Hwoarang lol..
@@TheNightofWalpurgis666 Mihawk doesn't hate Hwo ...he hates how you block and do the right thing against d34 and don't get rewarded
So true
I'm in low ranks still so my opinion may be irrelevant but I think characters like Hworang, Katarina, eddy, etc. (Characters with a lot of pressure) are the greatest menace bc you simply can't keep up at first
Honestly,any charracter with good lows is good in low ranks
@@mehdiouabas9587 I beat a Fujin Zaffina yesterday multiple times with Hwoa and I myself could never rank up to beyond Vanquisher.
My guess was the same. Zafina has lows that carried the player to that rank. Or maybe his brother was playing the game. xD
Certainly, dealing with pressure is one of the big learning curves
Dawg KWiss’ Hwoa is fucking ridiculous... his confirms are just spectacular.
nah hwoarang is just braindead
The crazy thing people should take note in this fight is that K wiss barely did d3, 4. Arguably hwoarangs best tool. Its interesting that rather than relying on d3 4, K swiss used the moves that converted into flamingo such as 4, 4f; ss 4, jabs.
yes. As a hwo player i dont use d3,4 so much. It is cheap play
Jabs into flamingo is way better imo because it's safer.
Yeonarrang d best Hwoarang in the World.
No rest is better
@@urpapa Rest just got beaten for the second time (FT 10) By Yeon ;-) th-cam.com/video/5nq5l_RbLOk/w-d-xo.html
no im d best hwoarang player
@@xo_herato7569 tf u smokin u fking turd.
@@xo_herato7569 nah me😎
5:48 When your playlist includes cheesy Tekken 2 ending music.
1:06 real tekken god
Arsenalty needs to make an edit of TMM getting ki charged, then we'll get the reaction we wanted.
why? TMM's reaction (or lack thereof) would be better than any reaction where he would be upset. Honestly, it's cool seeing him so much calmer than he was in TTT2, shows how much he's grown from then as a player and a person.
And honestly, it was kinda funny seeing the chat be so annoyed that Adrian wasn't annoyed, like as if he needs to act exactly how the chat wants him to. he's his own person, he can decide when to be annoyed, no need to tell him 'oh you need to ki-charge back' or whatever.
@@genzo454 this was the wrong comment to type all that out to man lol, I was just making a joke about how the best way to get tmm to see something is to get him to make a reaction video to a Tekken edit. It's a meme.
@@WhayYay aye, sir. I'm not the most observant guy in the lighthouse, didn't really catch on to that, apologies.
@@genzo454 he definely get salty when he says "I respect k-wiss as a player do I respect him not ki charging" after read the chat who is forcing him
Can someone explain to me what's so disrespectful about something as little as a ki charge? All the years I've been playing tekken, I still don't understand why ppl are so butt hurt from something like a ki charge 🤷♂️
It's basically just a taunt
When people do this they are basically saying: i’m better than you in a disrespectful way. It’s just the way it is.
1v1 fight, absolutely fun and in good sporting. After you KO me and then start doing show boating moves and steps? That's being a poor sport and that's on them, not on me.
How come Yoshimitsu’s T2 console theme has never been re-released?
Daniel's Opinion It’s been 15 years omg
Watched this on the K-Wiss side, now onto the TMM side. Early impression, TMM so jaded or tired that no reaction on the Ki-charge. 😅
Reading Chat
@@XX-ep5xt no he wasnt he just didnt care
I wish your videos everyday your matches always put a smile on my face how good u are idc nobody one of the most taken people in history
Nice throwback Soul Edge track in the beginning. Was Mitsurugi's Khan session arranged theme.
Keycharges once the whole of the chat and comment section are going crazy over it 😂
I hate people who Kicharge. But those who keycharge have a special place in hell
Almost thought Majima made it to Tekken
Awesome and cool upload! 1000/1000! I love watching streamers in Action!
LMAO, I would ki charge the heck out of it for 20k
6:10 yes this is guaranteed . As long as the HWO does the be input at the right time
He really denied doing ki charges after that guy saved up to 20k. Smh.
That’s what you get for trying to be a toxic asshat. You and him can cry harder
TMMSWE IS NOW UPLOADING IN 1080P MY LIFE IS COMPLETE
That twerps vids pop up every now and then on my recommended..nice Huawrang though.
That Hwoarang 😭🔥
This dude just hit you once and thats basically it
K Wiss I want your vr vr child D:
I can't deny k-wiss talent, buy I don't particularly like him
Cuz he's black huh?
@@therealmccoy2004 nah he's just a bit of a twat
@@euclidclack5621 I mean how? I mean TMM is kinda the same way..
But you like TMM? Lmao.
@@therealmccoy2004 I agree lol I was just saying it's fair to think k-wiss is a ballbag because sometimes he really is.
Accidentally disliked the video, so I liked the video to correct my mistake. TMM you the Goat.
I swear hwo is he most Busted fkin character lmaaaao
like what are his drawbacks, compared to other chars hes just over tuned
@@502280 His defense is ehh hes just good at pressuring he cant be too busted if he isnt picked much in pro tournament's
@@sakaga6444 lool what? wym his def is back , def is holding back. everyone can do that
No character has this type of gameplay where his pressure just never ends it’s like constant never ending flow of highs mids lows. Atleast with other characters you have maximum 4 move flows so you know when it’s your turn.
@@502280 Yeaaah don’t think you know what defense is bud. What character do you play again?😂
First time i saw tmm get mugged
10-1 attack ratio lemao Hwoa players.
Those jf sky rockets made me chummmm
Mainman and kwiss balance each other.
Very nice games
that moment when you cant see shit cause of notofications
How did you get ground zero punk to play? It's not in the playlist for me...
Deji could learn something from this video
>Hwoarang
>Being Incredible. Pick one
7:53 ooooooo
At 17:50 K-Wiss blocks a low and then goes right into a hop kick that launches. Does anyone know how to do that?
Its a delayed hop-kick usually works on high minus lows when blocked. Just press uf after blocking and while in mid air press 4. It’s a universal move like the low parry.
No matter how good he is kwiss can't win himself a half-decent personality
OddSauce wdym
K-wiss is pretty cool
k wiss chat paid him to ki charge ..
and k wiss apologized in his video
OddSauce
come on man
atleast look as to why those ki charges happened
and wdym?
he is literally one of the coolest tekken personalities
Oh look its The CEO of Personality judgement.
at the end of the day if u throw 200 attacks per minute if only 30% of them connects you win , compared to kaz 40 attacks per minute lmao
Why does tmm compliment himself after a low parry 😂
@TMM....Why is ki charge considered disrespectful? , i grew up with it from Tekken 2 as a risky CH tool as a follow up option.
Bit confused to this new perception after returning to the game after a few years of having to be responsible.
Because It's perceived as saying your opponent "I'm Ki charging fool, handicapped for a while come at me if you can!"
K wiss got trashed by that marduk player john.. wish we had more marduk players
Yeah everyone has their day at being trashed. Nothing worth mentioning.
With the soul blade music
kwiss was ki charging me: bruh
100% kazuya players do this moves and i dont know why
Hwoahrang lowkey looks like Majima from a distance.
Even the name Majima reaches TMM's TH-cam videos, he really is everywhere
Are you kidding me with that 5:52 sweep? shitty hit boxes.
Beautifully fucked up tmm👍
Good job K-Wiss 😁
I think player's with dash like kazuya jin paul bryan are very strong with strong moves but that make them also slightest slower comparing to players without dash...my opinion
Wave dashing is the fastest way to move forward ; paul is not a wave dash , more like a crouch dash.
The mainman was reading chat when he got ki charged lol...
And ??
1:05 This is hwoarang
Just came here from k wiss video man k wiss was not even focusing on game properly.....k wiss and yeonarang took hwoarang on another level
Is 1+2 ever a viable defensive option instead of d/f 2 when he pressures you MMS?
Ws4, DP, F4, CD 3+4 is good vs Hwo. I dont want to sound like a hater But tmms decision Making in this vid was very bad...
@@Smoothalcoholic he was probably just stressed out versing hwo because all of the pressure
Why was soul calibur/blade music playing in this?
Damn this guy has a million things popping up on the screen. Takes away from the match.
That means you’re easily distracted.
@@sO_RoNerY yay!
Can someone tell me the ost at
3:40? I can't find it and it's driving me nuts!
Tekken 5 - Ground Zero Funk
@dr3wmedia667 thank you! 2 years later! 😊
how do i do the 44 into skyrocket that K-wiss is doing? do i need to wait for him to put his foot down or is there a trick to make it come out faster
Late but you may be pressing 4,4 which transitions into right flamingo rather than 4, F4 which let's you JFSR immediately atter
@@jheads5371 bro what 4, f4 does nothing
@@oldfrenchmantekken8 4 f+4 puts you in right foot forward rather then right flamingo, where you can sky rocket directly after. It does work mate
@@jheads5371 Just found it in the move list... thanks
*the quality*
Awesome background fight music there at 17:26 damn....
Hwoarang is the best
I left the stream right before this happened ;-;