Experimenting with Yield & Stop to Fix Traffic in Cities Skylines!
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- Our BIG American City is back. Let's put Yield Vs Stop! Enjoy😀
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I’ll pick Mississippitea just to hear Biffa struggling to say that 🤣
Just what I was thinking 😉
Miss a sippa tea
What a banger to drop at the end Biffa😂 since I’m from the “Mid-South” myself, I HAVE to vote Mississippatea!!!
Me too. But it's actually spelled Mississippittea.
Or Mississiptea
Teattle gets my vote. Missassipatea is a great name but maybe leave it for a district or river. Great video.
Agreed! Teattle simply rolls off the tongue better.
I feel like the names should be the other way around! Mississippatea for the city and Teattle for a district, something by the water of course!
But Seattle is a city, and Mississippi is a state or a river.
Teattle for the city name, Mississipitea for the river name.
That is a good suggestion.
YES
Yeah, but do they have enough homeless assets on the workshop for Teattle?
How about mississipatea for the river?
For naming, I'd say make the city Teattle, and use Mississipitea as the name for a river.
Teattle for the city name, Mississipitea for the river name. Teattle is easier to say, and you're likely to be saying it a lot. Mississipitea is a wonderful pun and should be used, but as another poster below suggests, make it the river name.
I don't have a problem saying it and Biffa didn't seem to either!
Be sure to not "miss a sip of tea" when the next traffic strike occurs.
19:03 It's not a asymmetrical tram road, but the road immediately to the left of the one you picked, Biffa, is a four lane road with tram tracks in the inner two lanes which would allow cars to use the tram lane for turning.
Wondering when Biffa will notice that Anchor District is just the commercial area in the middle of Brook Heights, and those houses don't have any services right now.
Dammit Biffa, I'm too slow! I just came up with this list:
Teattle
Chaicago
Brew York
Cincinnatea
Teanix
Brew York and Chaicago are so good tho
Brew York 😂
Biffa when traffic is 80%: 😁
Biffa when traffic is 79%: 🤬
15:15 In America we do use the stop signs a lot. Though what is making the city here begin having problems is that new area not having a good number of connections to the main artery for people to leave or enter. As of this moment he has five with three of them going to an artery road rather far away from where much of the traffic would go, that being the right side artery leading to the highway, industry, and commercial areas. For the road along side the track, I would add two more roads to the artery, and then on the right side artery at least five connections. Making so few connections with a stop sign is asking for backup to occur.
Whens english mod city coming back????
This week, already recorded 👍
Here is some thoughts on stop signs versus yield signs.
When you have a grid like that, almost every intersection needs to have stop signs, not just on the major road. There is a couple of ways of doing it to really control your traffic.
For example, you could make every intersection a 4-way stop, so everyone has to stop, this will help the traffic. Or you could put stop signs on all the roads going east and west, and none on the north and south. The traffic then will want to go north and south to miss all the stop signs. And, where all the small roads meet up with the big main roads, (the two roads going through the middle of the grid that are main roads, and the 4 main roads on the outside of the grid) and put stop signs on all four sides, or a traffic ligt.
Don't worry too much about using Yields. We do have them here in the US, they're just very targeted. That intersection you placed it on since there isn't much traffic, it is one normally would have a stop sign but probably could get argued into a Yield. But here no one would ever do that lol
Biffa, at some point you are going to have to try a Japanese style City, the Roads are something you might enjoy monkeying around with. just saying.
I live in Japan now and they drive me crazy! Crossings that go into mountainsides, lights with green arrows going in every direction, and in the rural areas roads are 1.5 lanes wide and curvy enough to give people motion sickness! Also, mopedists going half the speed limit and weaving between traffic and onto the sidewalks!
I wonder if it would be possible to do the Japanese style raised railway lines winding it's way between buildings? You'd probably also need to invent the 0.5U road type. It would certainly be different from any other style of city you could do.
@@roguesmile1491 but building that in a game... fun 😁
I like Teattle much more, it is kinda neat and short.
The solution is obvious. Teattle is a CITY in the US State of Mississipatea.
Hi Biffa, when you used the nem MOB Transfer Controller, I think you forgot to add the Brook Heights in the restrictions for the services ;)
In America it’s more common to have constant traffic than to have a bunch of yield signs tbh. And a ton of churches (but I’m in the southeast)
The in game reason for stop signs is they increase the path length as well. So if you have a neighborhood cims are short cutting through, filling it with stop signs like north american residential areas discourages cuts, Kinda works the same IRL.
16:50 - Biffa, Timed Traffic Lights
- Set Min Time : 1 (do not adjust this)
- Set Max Time : 10
- Set Flow Type : No one is driving (flow=0) (do not adjust this)
- Set Flow Sensitivity : Medium
Why you ask?
This setup allows traffic to flow through a green light until there is no more traffic flowing through or your Max Time has been reached, then the light switch to next state. You can adjust the Max Time to how long you want a green light, higher for busy intersections, lower for less traffic, adjust sensitivity if you have multiple intersections on one timed light setup.
** This works a treat and prevent massive line ups at traffic lights.
Biffa, how about a new challenge - a city which is just 1 tile and you have to build everything up. There is probably a mod or 2 to help!
Wasn't he alredy do it?
@@arvyno7129 nope
Actually, he's done a one tile city challenge, twice!
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Loved the video 😊. I just noticed that when you were restricting the services present in anchor district, you didn't include brook heights, the residential part of the area.
17:13 Those traffic lights look more German than US. US lights are on the opposite side of the intersection from the cars. Those are right there where the cars stop.
The whole of the USA is divided by counties and some city law enforcement. Hence, police, etc. are limited to their districts. Then you have state police that can work within the entire state. Finally, you have the FBI, DHS, Customs, US Marshals, etc. which can work within any US territory as Federal Police.
Teattle, then build a suburb called Teacoma (tacoma), and then in between build a city to service the airport called teateac (SeaTac)!
With C:S not having accidents, there isn't much reason to use stop signs over yield. Stop signs in America work well for low traffic and preventing accidents in blind intersections but there's virtually zero reason to use them if you can never have an accident. The US would use yield signs a lot more if accidents weren't a thing. Keep in mind US roads tend to be a lot wider so speeds can tend to be higher making yield signs IRL more risky, but that risk doesn't exist in the game.
Yeah we have stop signs in America. But we treat them as yields!
Americans don't understand the use of the STOP sign. It should only be used at crossings where the view is so bad or obscured that it is (nearly) impossible to get a good overview of the situation without coming to a complete stop. I all other cases it is better to try and keep the car rolling if possible.
I don't know how this turns out in this game but in real life this is how the shield should be used.
In practice this means that you rarely see a STOP sign. Which results in people taking the sign serious and understand that this crossing is dangerous and needs extra focus.
Yup. And also it’s a great way to generate revenue in the form of “moving violations”
@@nam3o In the game or in real life you mean? In real life, where I am from, we have these little cars with speed cameras standing besides the road steeling money from people that are just a few miles above the speedlimit 😆 But I can imagine they use this sign for that purpose in the US. Every government has its own creative way to steel money from the poor while letting the rich kind of off the hook.
If we want the stop sign taken seriously we put in a 4 way stop.
@@periankalon5100 😵
@@periankalon5100 4 way stop junctions simply shouldn't exist, and AFAIK they don't exist anywhere in Europe.
Slick how you played goofy music 🎶 in the background when you were describing that crazy 🤪 road having vehicles facing the same way on both sides, Biffa. 😆 And I think Teattle is perfect. It's easy to pronounce. Mississippitea is more difficult to say.... 😏
I really appreciate when you demonstrate the use of the mods you use - that is actually very helpful - thank u sir!
TMPE has 3 useful options in policies
1. Automatically make dedicated turning lanes (when changing intersection they also updating)
2. Ban parking on roundabout branches also, not only on roundabout itself
3. Allow cars make U-turns on each intersection - prevent traffic to go around
In my experience, grid patterns are just awful in CS, even worse than real life.
The larger the grid the worse the issues
Did you ever try superblocks ?
Mississippitea!!!
I was originally gonna vote for Teattle, but Mississippitea is so good!
Its great that Biffa is building a US and UK build at the same time, put a sidebyside comparison when both are done?
41:18 the cars are parallel parking, but not against the curb. What's with, what appears to be, the full lane between the parked cars and curb?
Love this build, but that main road with parallel parking away from sidewalk just doesn't look right. Plus you could get a lot more parking spaces in and look more realistic if you use the diagonal parking
the tram stops on the high street with the shops should be at the intersections instead of halfway down the block, the cims have to walk to the intersection to cross to the sidewalk, they won't jwalk unfortunately. cims will also only walk a total of 102 units (zoning squares) per full trip
I'll vote Mississipatea for the pun and the challenge to pronounce it every start of a video XD
Thanks for the entertainment :-)
In America, most of cities are allowed to turn right on red, you should enable in your city.
Is there a sign that says you can, or is it actually legal? I'm from the Netherlands. Touring some of the Northern States & Canada and admire epic nature @ your continent is one of the two things on my bucket-list, so I'd genuinely like to know how that works.
Since this is an American build, don't use traffic manager to set up priority signs. Instead, use the game's default stop signs. This will add decorative visual stop signs on the street that are built in the game but don't appear when using traffic manager. The US uses 4-way stop signs in residential areas. Those are the worst so I think avoid them where possible. Instead use as many 2-way stop signs as you can. If any intersection starts backing up because of the stop signs, then just switch it over to the default traffic light. Don't bother wasting time on setting up the timed traffic light unless the default traffic light is having problems. To improve the default traffic light, upgrade the intersection roads to have dedicated turn lanes first. This way you will have a realistic all American city without cheating by using yield signs.
Hi biffa i had an idea for the congestion at the school. You could have the side road come off the main road two way, one lane. And add a bypass for the left turn. Looks like you would have to replan the walking path under the bypass though. With designated turning lanes it would help alot. Most of the traffic comming out of the community is turning left. Only problem is that it will create alot of nodes. So would it fit?
Mississipatea fits the geography better and suits your good humour even though you never seem to miss your sip a tea----
I really like Missisippatea (is that spelled rigth?) ♥
I voted on Teattle before on your poll, because it was a plausible name for a city. However it's too much fun to hear you say Missisippatea over and over again, so why the heck not! hehe
Hehe...jiggery-pokery. Have used that phrase in conversation and is definitely something that makes others take notice.
BTW, like Mississipitea. Teattle makes me think of "tattle" as in "tattletale". :-)
Biffa wants Mississipatea, so I vote to let Biffa name it Mississipatea.
I wonder if you could use the option that restricts vehicles from using a road UNLESS they have business on that road.
"Old Time Policy" or something similar, I think.
I think you missed Brook Heights when you were messing with your services
Biffa, I think you have too many dedicated turning lanes. If somebody enters in the main road he will not use the right lane because just after there is a junction with dedicated turning lanes…so you have junks of main road where the right line is completely empty (an example is where the bus station is), and people entering the main road will use left lane that is already congested by the oncoming traffic…if this makes sense 😉
Your opening reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson, awesome :D
Instead of using Yield signs, the United States uses times traffic lights to try to solve traffic on its roads. (There are no yield signs for intersections in the United States)
make a node too big, and pedestrians/cyclists will get "stuck" at that intersection. I've not noticed for a very long time, and when I do and fix it, man, what a huge horde of peeps and the game chugs LARGE until the crowd disperses. Be careful adjusting nodes to beyond 30meters..
Why did you use the shallow depth parking in full depth spaces along the commercial street you put less parking than you potentially could have had and left a weird road part with no use
To be fair in North America most drivers treat Stop signs as Yield signs anyways
Teattle is a much better name for the city. Mississippitea might be a good fit for the river itself.
Maybe try and add a second junction on to the new highway road you built along the new development to relieve some of the traffic by the bus station, you could even make it residents only in and out of that particular district/road
Mississippitea is amazing! Go for it!
G,Day Biffa, you've got to call it Missisipatea. Cheers.
1:19 Jeep Owner POV: SEND IT!!
Anchor District its just shopping centre. For residential you have Brook Heights they don't have coverage now.
Why not mississittea? It sounds like Mississippi, has tea, but also sounds like “city” at the end. Sounds perfect to me
We need video's everyday, I can never get enough
If it's busy America just puts traffic lights, for small residential that's busy it's 4 stop signs and usaly it's two stops signs at a 4 on the not busy side
I think here in USA we mostly use stop sign but treat them like yield sign,.
Allow right turns on traffic lights in tmpe settings
My choice for a name would be Kettlesvile or Pottsville.
I voted for Teattle, but Mississipitea is so fun to say! I’d have to go for latter!
I love the sound of Mississippitea .. let's start a counter on the times it is pronounced incorrectly :D
Biffa have you tried this new mod that was released called Transfer Manager CE v1.2?
Also would be a good thing to have some American buses and trams maybe.
Hey Biffa we do have yield/give way sign in USA and roundabouts
Missassipatea! That's perfect!
Hey Biffa, use some quays for the train line between the two districts ☺️ will look great.
Teattle would need fire spread and crime maxed to match it's real life counterpart.
Missasipatea is the best thing ive ever heard.
In a video game with no collision detection the best sign is a go sign where the cars never stop at all
Not really as cars can get in each others way.
Oh, it's gotta be mississipitea... Or however you managed to spell that, because yeah, we need to hear you say it at least ever episode lol..
What a builder you are.
never Miss a Sip o' Tea
You forgot to include Brook Heights.....Anchor District is just the park which is surrounded by Brook Heights...
Hey Biffa, have you ever built a "Canadian style " city? It's basically American style but with the metric system 🙂
And less road rage.
I have to stick with Teattle. I'm honored that the city name I suggested was in the pole.
Mississippitea for sure 👍🏻
oh my gosh sip a tea!!!
Hey Biffa, My fine road Anarchy causes error messages and game will not run. It started causing bus and train routes to disappear then the Ikon to start disappeared! Now if I have it on the game freezes with an error message. Any Ideas whats maybe going on?????
I like Teattle but I pick Mississippitea, that is perfect!
Hey Biffa, anyway one of these days you can do a video on all the mods you use to this day? I think you did something like this years ago. Only asking because CS seriously needs to just come out with CS2 since the mods out their some work and some dont and far too many out there now. Any who keep doing what your doing always love the videos. Good day.
I never miss an episode
For the name I think they’re both great but Teattle would fit better with the style/climate of the map as it’s far more similar to Seattle region compared with Mississippi
I agree! Teattle gets a vote for me. Mississippi lacks rugged landscape or mountains like the Seattle region. It’s mainly flat with marshes and low elevations.
Teattle for this city. Mississipatea for the next city. As it will be on the river.
*The way you pronounced Yosemite, Bif, argggggg lol* 😫😫
As a console peasants, yield signs are a mystery.
Why do I have the feeling you already had a city named Mississippitea...
teattle, it also sounds like kettle
Mississippitea has my vote!
Can't believe you're trying to subvert democracy like this Biffa.
TEATTLE MEANS TEATTLE!!
Teattle vote from Seattle! :)
Hey Biffa, there are settings inside of tmpe to turn off automatically putting in traffic lights and also automatically using designated turning lanes. Saves you going around manually and inevitably missing one or two
I literally just put this about dedicated turning lanes! Glad others use it too, hope Biffa sees one of these comments!
I mean he have been using TM:PE for years now, including having multiple tutorials about it.
But you do you girl, work...
But... but... BINGO POINTS! ;)
Is the bingo even still a thing that people do?! I rediscovered Biffa because of Cities: Skylines and have been bingeing all of his playthroughs but apparently have been doing so MOSTLY backwards so I'm getting to some of the earlier things!
@@automation7295 He has always missed some but never mentions it. Only a suggestion :)
@@mjm3091 He literally plays this a ton and still makes obvious mistakes in most videos that he then calls out and corrects later. We're all human and make mistakes. Just because he's made tutorials on a particular mod doesn't mean he is an expert with it or even knows about/utilizes all the settings. OP made a good suggestion even if you don't think it is worthwhile.
To be fair, most Americans treat stop signs like yield signs anyway, so it is fairly accurate.
No cop, no stop! It's the American way! Ah, the good ol' American rolling stop.
9:12 when setting the restrictions you forgot about brook heights you only added the anchor district.
Anyone else start singing “two trailer park girls go round the outside, round the outside” whenever Biffa says “round the outside” or is that just me lol?
Biffa's back, back again.
Biffa's back, tell your friends.
Not just you lol